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L.A. Times' Mark Medina discusses Lakers' 108-103 victory over Toronto Raptors

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well, that game never seemed to really be in danger of becoming a loss. it wasn't a very well played game, though. that's what happens when every shot goes in for a couple of games, eventually only good shots go in and sometimes even those are a problem. that leads to runouts and momentum issues.

as i said, the game was never in danger. it wasn't fun, but it wasn't bad either, it was a win.

sunday is another day.

this game the lakers won without bynum and with him it would have been a total blowout. toronto had a lot of players who could score inside so i am not sure why pj didn't play ratliff. pau really is power forward so teams when they play teams that can really penetrate not having bynum really shows more.

last year at this time this possibly could have been a loss but this team is so much better. i can relax when blake shoots an open 3 because more than likely its going in.

This game was a defensive flop. Most disappointing was the ease with which the Raptors penetrated the paint. The starters have not yet demonstrated they can defend the paint well enough to handle either the Heat or Celtics without Bynum! Given this effort, Heat would have scored 120 points with Lebron & Wade attacking the rim with far greater ferocity. Where is the help defense? Watch Rondo as a point guard contributing to rebounding effort and his intensity every game to get the additional possessions. Davis has already contributed taking ten charges in 5 games. That's effort!!

KB Blitz: Great to skew numbers and slant statistics - and flat out lie - if they support your position.

Originally, I stated that Kobe missed two games from the 4th to the 14th last year.

Looking back, in fact he missed 3 - thus strengthening my position!

He may have averaged 39 minutes in the games he DID play, but not stating that he didn't play in at least 3 games is disingenuous.

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I said "Luke Walton, Sasha got starts amongst others."
Your reply: "WRONG. Ron still started at Small Forward. Shannon Brown started at SG."

Sorry, you are wrong again:
April 8, 2010. Nuggets 98, Lakers 96. Starting SG was Sasha.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/boxscores/los-angeles-lakers-at-denver-nuggets/2010-04-08/10/13

April 13, 2010. Kings 100, Lakers 106. Starting SG was Shannon.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/boxscores/los-angeles-lakers-vs-sacramento-kings/2010-04-13/10/13

April 14, 2010. Lakers 91, Clippers 107. Starting SF was Luke, SG was Shannon.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/boxscores/los-angeles-lakers-at-los-angeles-clippers/2010-04-14/10/13

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I said "I agree with your sentiment hobbitmage that Phil is after championships, that is his bottom line. I remember the Lakers passing up the Hornets on the last day of the season a couple years ago. I also remember a young Kobe hitting a couple of three-pointers to beat the Blazers on the final game of the season, which secured a Western Conference title."
Your reply: "Huh about the Hornets? And those 2 3 pointers to beat Portland gave the Lakers the 2nd overall seed thanks to Sacramento losing to Golden State."

Here's your 'huh' about the Hornets:
"The Lakers finished a game ahead of the Hornets in the 2007-08 standings after passing the Hornets in the frenetic final days of the regular season. The Hornets lost in the Western Conference semifinals that season and were eliminated in the first round of last season's playoff."
http://216.87.191.15/News/Louisiana/Sports/Louisiana_Sports__New_Orleans_Saints_Carolina_Panthers_Hornets_Lakers__9769.asp

And here's your last-second three's against the Blazers. It was 2003-04, final game of the season (04/14/04) and I mistakenly said the win gave them the Western Conference title, in fact it was the final year of 2 divisions per conference, the win gave them the Pacific Division title.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-0gLhqpJg
fun viewing.


KB, I'm done debating you. I'm through. Not just for today, but for good. You've got an obsession to try and spar with me, and you've sucked me into debates three separate times, including earlier tonight when you attributed some quotes to me that I had never even made. You pull strings and things out of midair, you distort things, you even make a hullabaloo about appropriate language or whatnot, like you did a month back.

Mostly though, you have some type of bizarre obsession with me, and even though I'm flattered by your attention, I consider you a borderline-to-full-on troll and a member of the half-empty club (your posts reinforce that notion).

I'm done with your slants, your distorted positions - that are usually anti-Laker in some form, and your bizarre fixations. I have better use of my time than setting you straight. I suggest look to Bleacher Report, BSPN, Yahoo! or any number of other blogs/sites if you are looking to argue - whatever you do does not concern me. All I know is debating me will not happen again.


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Yes, the 38-pt 2nd qtr we gave the Raptors was bad.... yes, our D sucked, yes Pau was bad on the boards... but hey, we got a W nevertheless....

The Miami super-team made of maids and sissies lost again, and are 4-2 now, and we are 6-0....

We started 2008-2009 as 7-0, and won the Championship... now we're 6-0, and when we win against the Blazers, it could be De ja Vu all over again!!

If we play with purpose, then I dont see Lakers lose any games in Nov. We still have 12 games left in the month, but Blazers, Nuggets and Suns are the games we gotta be concerned. But we play against the Blazers and Suns at home. Thuggets are the only road game!!

So, 18-0 or 17-1, by the end of November - I'll take that!! :-)

Tweet of the Day: "Walton's first shot of the season: I think he hurt the backboard" -- Mike Bresnahan (Mike Bresnahan from LA Times)

Reader Comment of the Day: "I'm ready for backup plans in case Lakers chat crashes because of Luke's presence." -- Mark Medina on Live Chat

Ruud,
You're right about Miami being 4-2. But you're forgetting that J Van Gundy and a few other infallible pundits (plus every bookie in Vegas) have promised that the Heat will break the Bulls 72 W record. Which means that they are definitely, without doubt, going to go 75 and 7 the rest of the way. That's a pretty impressive ratio, 75 to 7.

Maybe that's why Lebron was heard this morning in Riley's office whining, "What do you want me to do?"

I still predict Miami will duplicate Lebron's patten in Cleveland over the past two years and have the best record in the league, home court advantage throughout... and of course disappear a round or two before the finals.

"KB Blitz: Great to skew numbers and slant statistics - and flat out lie - if they support your position.

Originally, I stated that Kobe missed two games from the 4th to the 14th last year.

Looking back, in fact he missed 3 - thus strengthening my position!

He may have averaged 39 minutes in the games he DID play, but not stating that he didn't play in at least 3 games is disingenuous."
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Oh how? That Kobe played 39 minutes when he did play? What are we supposed to do when he doesn't play put ZERO minutes?? Kobe wasn't even on the bench in full uniform so why put minutes in your favor.

Remember what I said: When he DID play. What did do to lie when he DID play?

Oh in your world.....everything has to be skewed to support YOUR position huh?

"Sorry, you are wrong again"

That's MY Line:

April 14, 2010. Lakers 91, Clippers 107. Starting SF was Luke, SG was Shannon:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300414012
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AnmhOyGH_GWmHxsgW03Yhd9gPKB4?gid=2010041412

Only one you got right was Sasha. Otherwise Ron was our SF all the time, SG was by Shannon in all but one game when Kobe was out.

"The Lakers finished a game ahead of the Hornets in the 2007-08 standings after passing the Hornets in the frenetic final days of the regular season. The Hornets lost in the Western Conference semifinals that season and were eliminated in the first round of last season's playoff."

Only goes to show that Phil was looking for HOME COURT advantage instead of getting healthy and upped for the playoffs. Thus strengthening MY position.

"KB, I'm done debating you."

Distorting facts and putting it into Pro-Kobe or Pro-Magic is a reason for debate. And troll lol. When did I start calling you names? Whatever. I knew you were so emotional when you slandered statistics yourself to show that "Kobe shot 50%" when it was one month and Gasol was out.

Anyone can have a criticism of a team, Phil being one of the biggest ones to criticize his teams even in wins. Does he see the jar half full? I guess so going by your standards he does. Jeez even MVP888 gives a better argument than you.

and another thing Cyber the point about Kobe missing those games was that he felt he would do more harm than good trying to gut it out especially with his knee and ankle problems. He told the coaching staff that he was no good and the coaching staff let him sit. If there was any way to catch Cleveland or to at least beat Orlando with a good margin of error than Kobe WOULD have played even with the pain.

Yet Pau/Lamar/Ron all averaged heavy numbers. So how on earth did it support your position?

See what I mean? Sometimes thinking with the head is much better than thinking with emotions.

Tsphere,

Loved your jabs at the "never wrong", "I know all about basketball" pundits :)

But, for MIA (Mamma Mia or Missing In Action??) to break the record, they "only" need to go 69-7 for the rest...

69-7!! I am kinda thinking the 7 could be there before X-mas, if the other teams play against the Heat like the Hornets played last night!!

About the 69.... NO WAY!!

Sorry about the crazy miscalculation. I stand corrected. They do indeed only need 69 more wins... before fading in the playoffs.


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