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Five things to take away from the Lakers' 99-94 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves

575009411. The Lakers appeared uninterested. Instead of using the team's off day to rest and recharge, the team seemed to take it as a sign they can take things easy. Instead of carrying their team-first offense and hustle on defense against Portland, the offense collectively broke down and the defense remained non-existent. Instead of the Lakers approaching their game against punching-bag Minnesota wanting to play well enough to warrant heavy rest among the starters, the team needed to grind it out to secure a 99-94 victory Tuesday over the Timberwolves.

Playing down to the competition isn't anything new among the Lakers in seasons past, but it's something they mostly avoided this season. Until now. Coach Phil Jackson and guard Derek Fisher sharply criticized the team's effort, but others spouted every cliche imaginable to argue the bottom line only matters. The game itself has zero bearing on the big picture. The Lakers are 8-0, after all. But they missed a great opportunity to blow out the Timberwolves (1-7), rest their starters and give the bench more playing time. There's going to be plenty of games this season, particularly in January and February, where it's tempting to just mail in performances. But that honestly requires more energy than if they just took care of what they needed to do in the first place.

Say what you will about Minnesota's improved play, but the result wouldn't have been in question had the Lakers simply tried. After all, the Timberwolves entered the game, according to Elias Sports Bureau, as only the third team in 20 years to lose three of their first seven games by 25 or more points.

575008342. Minnesota outworked the Lakers on the boards. The Lakers epitomized their poor effort in this first-quarter sequence:  forward Ron Artest misguided an entry pass inside to Kobe Bryant, allowing Minnesota forward Michael Beasley to steal the ball away. The Lakers appeared slow to get back on transition defense. And Lakers forward Pau Gasol refused to fight for a rebound, resulting in Timberwolves' reserve Anthony Tolliver receiving an easy putback to put Minnesota up 25-21 with 2:16 left in the first quarter.

Minnesota missed plenty of midrange shots, going 38% from the field, but 26 offensive rebounds offset that poor shooting stroke. The Lakers also left the Timberwolves too open on the perimeter, then scrambled to spread out on the floor, leaving them further exposed on the glass.

It was just the beginning of a poor rebounding effort in which the Timberwolves beat the Lakers, 54-42, including a career-high 24 from Minnesota forward and UCLA product Kevin Love. In fairness, the Timberwolves and the Lakers entered the game tied in the league with 48.71 rebounds per game, but this wouldn't have been an issue had the Lakers hustled; the fact that  Andrew Bynum remains absent just doesn't cut it.

3. The Lakers didn't take advantage of Minnesota's 25 turnovers. The Lakers illustrated their inability to capitalize on the Timberwolves' sloppy play best in this second-quarter sequence: After Minnesota guard Wes Johnson air-balled a jumper, Artest ripped the ball out of Love's hands. Bryant tried driving the lane on the other end, but Sebastian Telfair forced a turnover. Love's wide-open three-pointer fell short, but the Timberwolves got the rebound and got the ball to center Darko Milicic, who then committed an offensive foul on Gasol.

This says more about the sloppy play than it does about any team's ability to recover on a play. The Lakers may have scored 21 points off turnovers, but nine of the Timberwolves'  12 first-half turnovers led to nothing. The Timberwolves' first four turnovers in the second half resulted in Lakers baskets, but the following nine turnovers didn't result in any points. Had the Lakers converted on half of those turnovers, this game would've been a blowout. Had Minnesota avoided committing half of those, the Timberwolves would've won.

575014614. Kobe Bryant takes over, mostly justified and sometimes to a fault. Very few things went well with the offense, as poor entry passes, rushed shots and isolation plays led to the Lakers looking much different than in the first seven games. In moments like these, Bryant has every right to take over the game. He nailed plenty of elbow jumpers, exploited poor defense from Johnson and Michael Beasley and kept the Lakers in a game that featured the team playing like they were behind even though they were usually ahead. Signature plays such as Bryant's jumper over Beasley followed by slapping his knee, a pull-up over Lazar Hayward that drew a foul with 2.1 seconds left in the second quarter and a baseline drive for an underhanded reverse layup defined his tremendous skill set. He took over the game, however, to a fault, going one of six in the fourth quarter. And plenty of his shots came directly after a blown defensive assignment, showing that Bryant seemed more fixated on exacting revenge than fully following the context of the game.

5. A limited Lamar Odom hurts the Lakers. Odom proved instrumental in the fourth quarter, scoring seven points on three-of-three shooting, including a three-pointer that gave the Lakers a 92-87 lead with 5:20 remaining. If only he had that type of effort for most of the game.

Odom appeared lifeless, though, missing five of his first seven shots and then tacking on two early fouls, forcing him to play less aggressively and limiting his time to only 26 minutes, 34 seconds. Odom's struggles pointed more to him initially getting in a rhythm and then remaining tentative because of early fouls. But this fully illustrates how the Lakers can't afford him to sit out and not provide what he normally has thus far.

-- Mark Medina

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Top photo: Minnesota forward Michael Beasley, left, battles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant for a loose ball during the second quarter of the Lakers' 99-94 victory Tuesday at Staples Center. Credit: Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times.

Middle photo: Lakers forward Pau Gasol puts up a reverse layup against Minnesota center Darko Milicic during the first quarter. Credit: Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times

Bottom photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant  gets off a shot as Minnesota forwards Michael Beasley, left, and Corey Brewer attempt to stop him during the fourth quarter. Credit: Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times

 
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eh, good win. nobody got hurt.
onward!

One things to take away from this win: There are uninspired nights like this in a long NBA season filled with uninspiring games. When the Lakers finally lose, it well be a game like this, not Denver, or Utah, or Miami. The Lakers were not sharp. They beat the TWolves. They are unbeaten in a pretty unchallenging first tenth of the season.

I hope for Kurt's sake the Wolves start to win a few.

the lakers did the bigest de-service to Kurt R.: Lovw had 24 pts. and 20 rebounds. this is the guy that Kurt keeps on his bench.

did you noticed that he had like 3 "offensive" rebounds in 3 seconds. it was especially "offensive" because Gasol was watching.

Should never have brought up the Laker potential to win 73 games. After this one the Lakers have shown once again they are not motivated to play defense for 4 Qs with Celtic intensity or pride. KB needs to save his body by not forcing his way through triple teams. MJ would get his shot off before that and played consistent defense. Two areas KB needs to improve to overtake MJ as the best ever. The second 3-peat will be far more difficult without Home Court! Lakers must pad their lead over Celtics/Miami because their post Dec. schedule will be far tougher!!

… those 5 things that we have to take away from …

it will be more educational and critical to comment on the Heat-Jazz implosion. from 22 down. the "Royal collapse".

the Lakers- Wolves game can be incapsulated in one play. Kobe is fouled by Brewer. Brewer hits the deck. Kobe looks down at him: "who are these scrubs"?

as KobeMVP888 will say: "boring" or "just scrimmage"

The TWolves played pretty good. They are tough on the boards but they do turn the ball over...like the young team that they are. It is good for them to play well against the Champions. They need more time to hone their half court offense, develope that cohesiveness on offense to reduce the turnovers. I thought Darko played better in the post. Missed some easy shots but made a few as well. Played pretty good D. He is getting more aggressive...playing a good game against Pau has to help his confidence. Pau is the best in the game. Go Wolves!!!

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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - We Got This & We Want More! Nothing but a (17th) Title will suffice. I am also of the opinion that PJ will be back next year - health providing - to take a shot at the illusive Quat-row. And YES - we're winning the 3-peat this year.
(02) ZAIRA AMATERASU - GODDESS - have called for number 17th after first game ;) I belong naturally to any ring assured type of bandwagon man ;) This year we have THE TEAM. THE TEAM with a killer bench. We can sustain anything (excellent game analysis Mark, I can't say anything more, nor different). We are just so impressive I'm almost scared by the way we seem to roll. Sure, soon or later we will lose but that's not gonna be a drama (I know it will be here for some, but not for me at all).

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We have all done it, you play a game of 3 on 3 to 11 points against a scrub team and you go 0-7 up. but you let them come back to 7-7 because you know you can beat this scrub team you just gotta turn it onnnn

simple lakers played to a scrub team because they knew they were never going to loose

Good Morning Laker Fam,

Ho-hum. Another one in the books. It wasn't pretty but we'll take it.

I really like the Black Keys so they're my selection today, cause I know the Lakers will "tighten" the screws when necessary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ojcl9dRRDs

Morning crew!

I'm going to take the opposite side of this. It was ugly and it was ragged, but a W is a W.

I actually think they didn't want to "blow out" the Wolves. They could have but I think they have too much respect for Rambis to blow him out at this point with his team. The Wolves are young and trying to come together. The Lakers did what they had to do for a W. They put on a show for the Staples crowd and kept their attention.

I'll chalk it up to a blah night but we got the W. If we have blah nights every 8 games and still eke out wins, I'll take it. They make for a stronger Laker team at the end of the season. And frankly, that's all I care about. W's and the Larry O'.

Cheers - PLG

Meh. When I wake up in the morning, it's still a "W". I wish the Lakers would've crushed Minnesota's souls in the first half like in the Portland game though; I could've used the extra hour or so of sleep last night.

*rubbing eyes*

DBDH!

I hope for Kurt's sake the Wolves start to win a few.

Posted by: Tom Daniels | November 10, 2010 at 04:00 AM

I hope they keep losing.
Maybe, just maybe, Kurt will comeback to us.

I hope they keep losing. Maybe, just maybe, Kurt will comeback to us. Posted by: Magia32 | November 10, 2010 at 06:19 AM
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You think maybe that's somewhere in the back of Kurts mind? LOL!
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actually think they didn't want to "blow out" the Wolves. They could have but I think they have too much respect for Rambis to blow him out at this point with his team. The Wolves are young and trying to come together. The Lakers did what they had to do for a W. They put on a show for the Staples crowd and kept their attention. Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | November 10, 2010 at 06:12 AM
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I know you won't believe but I had that same thought Psyched! Good Post!


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And the next cut is for just plain silliness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inpifmOLQfQ - Wind me Up – Bootsy

The game is painful to watch when Luke is in. That man can't play basketball and has no business being on the court.

4g3n7 (i.e, Agent)

What to take away from the Heal meltdown...

Spoelstra - brush up on the resume.

The way Lebron was used in 4th/OT as passive facilitator is not going to work.

Sasha who?


[dbdh]

Yawn

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(='.'=)
(")_(")

I took a cat nap during the 3rd quarter and never woke up.
The NBA where union naps are common.

What to take away from the Heal meltdown... Spoelstra - brush up on the resume.Posted by: LRob | November 10, 2010 at 06:31 AM
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Oh no DJ LROB, I think it's the complete opposite. As long as the Heat lose Spoelstra is safe. It's only when they go on a winnning streak that he better start worrying that Riley will swoop in and take over the job. I say this with all due respect because I would never think of contradicting you sir. Carry On! LOL!

The Most Interesting Stat.

Well we went from 13th to 11th in points allowed.

POINTS PER GAME
112.1
1st
OVERALL
REBOUNDS PER GAME
46.1
4th
OVERALL
ASSISTS PER GAME
24.0
4th
OVERALL
POINTS ALLOWED
99.6
11th
OVERALL

So our defense improved........
LOL
Just to easy........

Mamba in the morning,

Benatar and Bootsy...the Killer B's indeed. Carry on!

In Miami...

Wade goes for 39. James messed around and got a Triple Double. Millsap erupts for 46.

Utah wins, Miami loses. Which of the aforementioned factors is most distressing?

Clearly, the Heat have no answer for the basketball messiah known as Paul Millsap. NBA beware... the monster is loose!
(sarcasm)

One more loss this month for Miami and it's Riles Time, baby! Somewhere, Stan Van Gundy is hootin' it up.

[dbdh]

Sasha who? Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | November 10, 2010 at 06:31 AM
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NO DBDH not Sasha who, but Papa Oooh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrQjNNZCAo

why do we need Kurt?

he was the defensive coordinator in 2008/09 and Lakers were ok on defense.

there is an article on Silver Screen and Roll, a real analysis, that shows that after Kurt LEFT, the Lakers defense became better. yes, there is the Artest factor, but maybe at the end of the day, Kurt sucks as a coach. and who cares. it's imposible to carry on with all this nostalgia about every Lakers player ever. there are not enough jobs for all of them.

being in PJ's shadow is a difficult task to overcome. both Kurt and Shaw are pretty stubborn to show their own individuality by making bad choices. Kurt's affair with LOVE is all over the NBA. Shaw had his Sasha moment. and they don't even have power. but they already have control issues. scrubs.

So I hear that Jerry West is finally getting a statue outside the Staples Center. I say its about freakin time. The man deserves 2 statues; one as a player, the second as a general manager.
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Joe - I'm not big on statues, but no doubt Jerry West is Mr. Laker!

Benatar and Bootsy...the Killer B's indeed. Carry on! Posted by: LRob | November 10, 2010 at 06:38 AM
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Wow! I never thought of that but...That's why you are LRob and I'm not! LOL!

well at least they are having a laughing parade in Cleveland.
Cleveland has been in 1st place ever since that pre madona left.
Oh excuse me,Miami is in 3rd.
3rd as in the 3 blind mice.

it's imposible to carry on with all this nostalgia about every Lakers player ever. there are not enough jobs for all of them.Posted by: ouchhhhhhhh | November 10, 2010 at 06:41 AM
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LMAO!! Preach Ouchhhh, Preach!!!!


In Miami...Wade goes for 39. James messed around and got a Triple Double. Millsap erupts for 46. Utah wins, Miami loses. Which of the aforementioned factors is most distressing? Clearly, the Heat have no answer for the basketball messiah known as Paul Millsap. NBA beware... the monster is loose! (sarcasm) One more loss this month for Miami and it's Riles Time, baby! Somewhere, Stan Van Gundy is hootin' it up.Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | November 10, 2010 at 06:38 AM
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LMAO!!! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

@mclyne – caught that Pumpkins…very good

@Lew – love the song, not the nickname…lol.

@ms – Old Friend – every time I hear that I think of Linda Creed. What a great songwriter. Her and Phyliss are both missed.

@Cap’s Goggles – You tell em!

@63 Footer – Haven’t heard Ms. McEnroe in awhile. Still sounds good.

@GDUB – I definitely like Zero 7 mellow stuff better. The one cut that grabbed me most was This World. Nice.

@LROB, Did you say Phyllis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjOA0rZ-m90 _ Under your Spell – Phyllis Hyman

Other random thoughts from last night games...

Indiana 54 pt quarter...20 straight made shots...wow!

Byron has the Cavs playing hard and they're fun to watch. Don't look now but Cleveland is 4-3 and Miami 5-3.

Clippers lose again!

@Mamba - Papa Oom Mow Mow...lol...oh yeah me likes the doo wop.

Since you and ms. dropped the Phyllis and Lass yesterday brought a little sophistication to the board...why not combine the two with Phyllis on Broadway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-usB_frZQ0

Oh yeah...nice call on the game last night. You predicted a relatively close one.

Oh yeah...nice call on the game last night. You predicted a relatively close one. Posted by: LRob | November 10, 2010 at 07:08 AM
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AW gee *blush* *blush*. Thank you sir.

The team that crashes the boards usually comes out on top. That's not the case in the 4 games we have been out-rebounded.

Lakers 44 rebs. Houston 53 rebs.

Lakers 43 rebs. Sac. 49 rebs.

Lakers 31 rebs. Toronto 49 rebs.

Lakers 42 rebs. Minn. 54 rebs.

TELL ME, DOES ANYBODY STILL FEAR THE HEAT? REALY?...REALY?

@LEWSTERS… “I'm still searching for a name for our new bench...Killer B's doesn't justify, for that's only part of the bench...”
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The REAL Lakers bench are the Killer B’s. Who cares about the renegades. Once Drew gets back, Phil is going to play a 9-man rotation because that’s how many key contributing players we have and the maximum number you can give meaningful minutes to unless you play two 5-man squads like the Phoenix Suns or LakerTom’s Mt. Carmel Lakers do. I also really consider Lamar Odom to be 1 of 6 starters on the team, especially considering the level at which he is currently playing, which only leaves room for 3 bench guys to play with 6 starters in a 9-man rotation. Since our best 3 bench guys are Blake, Barnes, and Brown, the correct nickname for our bench is the Killer B’s. Period.
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When you think about it, classifying Lamar Odom as a starter is really the correct way to view the Lakers lineup. Lamar is more than a 6th man because he also is a starter at critical times like when he filled in for Pau and Drew for 17 games each last year. And considering LO to be a starter gives you a better view of the team’s depth and strength. It means that the Lakers always have 2 starters on the floor for 48 minutes. And just as one of our great advantages is our ability to man all 48 minutes per game at the 4 and 5 with Drew, Pau, and Lamar, now we can man 100% of the bench minutes every game with Blake, Barnes, and Brown. 6 starters and the Killer B’s. That’s why this team is so good.
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Gooooood Morning Lakerland! Yes life is good at the top.

IMHO, it's hard for our crew to muster up the energy to destroy a friend like Rambis. The coaches are close (met with Phil), many of the players have worked out with Rambis, he's a Laker legend (I saw just yesterday Rambis was mentioned as Magic's goon), his team just isn't seen as a threat (worst in the league?).

We are at home and at the top of heap. They are fighting for their jobs and wondering when Rambis will get axed. For me, I am satisfied with the win. We won ugly at home and the scrubs didn't get much run.

It's a long season so I am resisting reading too much into every turn. Our defense wasn't as dynamic as we want and rebounding is as much about energy and desire. I chalk this one up to us not wanting to lose more than beating another team. Weird, I don't remember feeling that way about Byron Scott's Nets or when he was with New Orleans. But both of those teams were competitive.

Let's enjoy the win and "move along."

The team that crashes the boards usually comes out on top. That's not the case in the 4 games we have been out-rebounded.
Lakers 44 rebs. Houston 53 rebs.
Lakers 43 rebs. Sac. 49 rebs.
Lakers 31 rebs. Toronto 49 rebs.
Lakers 42 rebs. Minn. 54 rebs.
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That is Freakin amazing! Thank you sir!


Let's enjoy the win and "move along." Posted by: JohnnyV | November 10, 2010 at 07:16 AM
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Good Morning JohnnyV! Excellent Post sir and excellent closing line.
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@LakerTom, Good morning sir. Great Post as always.

Just a couple of observations about last night's game, aside from the obvious fact we went back to cruise mode.

First, the T-Wolves really played their guts out. They're one of those teams that know they'll never make the playoffs, so their "playoffs" are the games against the Lakers. They went after every loose ball. They crashed the boards. They swarmed on defense. Hey, how hard is it to admit they just plain out-hustled us? It was their "Game 7". I'm just glad we won. In past years, this is exactly the type of game we would have lost.

Second, Rambis does indeed know where our weak spots are, and he does the best job in the entire league of preparing his out-gunned team to defend against the triangle. It doesn't take an elite NBA scout to see what he was doing: deny the entry pass into Pau, collapse the defense into the middle if the pass gets in, and force the Lakers to move the ball and shoot from the perimeter. And while that should be common knowledge, not everyone addresses the nuances as well as Rambis does, and not all teams do it as aggressively as the Bad News Wolves did last night. A hat tip to Kurt, and to Darko and Lighto (Love), for the gutty effort.

Next...

HUMILITY IS A WONDERFUL THING

Corner J - I am liking your insight more and more. Spot on friend, spot on!

Cheers - PLG

Uhm....yeah...

Next!

--FEARless

Uhm....yeah... Next! --FEARless Posted by: FEARless | November 10, 2010 at 07:42 AM
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LAKER SWAGGER YES!! MUCH BETTER THAN HUMILITY!!! LOL!

CornerJ,

What is more important than seeing that Rambis can figure out a defensive scheme against the Triangle, is to see that his players listen to him. A) they can all be coached, B) he can coach, and -- most importantly -- c) they can be coached by him. When Rambis talks, people obviously listen.

Also, there has GOT to be some sort or Phil Jackson-ish master plan going on with Love. I wonder how it will play out.

--FEARless

This is what it must feel like to be the T-Wolves considering they played about as good as they can play against a Laker team that pretty much mailed in their performance last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U7rOUSvYM8

JR

Good morning. And the point of all this is... ??? Let's be honest. The T-Wolves shouldn't even be in the NBA. Of course, the Lakers were disinterested. So was I. Move along, nothing to see here. Save your energy, chips, beer, and vodka for Thursday night.

Glad we won,as lakerfans we know there will be quite a few more like this.

Miami on the other hand,must be going something like this..(thinking to themselves)

Wade:Dang I made that huge three in overtime to give us the lead,I had a very efficient 39 points,this is my house I
did my part....

Bron:My first heat t-dub, we got this this is my swagg I don't have to or need to take the last shot,that's what Wade's for,after all this is his house..did I mention I got a t-dub....??

Bosh: don't no ! look at me heck I had a huge block against Millsap and drew a charge on another play..What more do they want??after all I'm just the third option...right??

Spoel..whatever..: Dang eff eff eff.. a few more of those and Pat's taking over for sure..wonder is Van Gundy will take me in??

Wade:Whatever I told em we aint going 82-0,but Lebron I dunno,Where was he in the closing minutes??..Punk I shoulda got Kobe or Melo or or..F it

Bron: i dunno what more they expect from me,,I had a t-dub,am I the leader of this team?That's why I left cleveland,this is Wade's house.What did he do at the end?maybe I should just take over I am a better player than
him..Did I mention my t-dub?Wade's house my @55......

Bosh:Wow they better start doing well soon,I left for this?Heck La is looking sweet right about now,and bynum's down I coulda been 8-0 right now wtf....Wonder if that deals still on the table,maybe I can call Kobe..eff what's his number again??

Good morning CRUE!


The game last night was ugly. REALLY ugly. But I'll take the W and look ahead to Thursday. What can we learn from this game? Oh, I don't know - maybe stay focused? Grab a board? Little stuff like that.... :)


My morning commute was rockin this morning. I dedicate it to Mamba24 who's working on a 3-peat of his own....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHm7-HMaO0


Wade:Whatever I told em we aint going 82-0,but Lebron I dunno,Where was he in the closing minutes??..Punk I shoulda got Kobe or Melo or or..F it
Bosh:Wow they better start doing well soon,I left for this?Heck La is looking sweet right about now,and bynum's down I coulda been 8-0 right now wtf....Wonder if that deals still on the table,maybe I can call Kobe..eff what's his number again??Posted by: VI Lakerfan | November 10, 2010 at 07:59 AM
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LMAO!! Yes I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!!!


VI Lakerfan,

LMAO. that's very funny.

It seems like they're all thinking "What should i do?"

My morning commute was rockin this morning. I dedicate it to Mamba24 who's working on a 3-peat of his own....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irHm7-HMaO0
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LMAO!! PAST TENSE FABULOUS!! Can you say counseling! LOL! Justa is always right!

In honor of dbdh, and in light of recent events in South Beach, I lone star laker fan do hereby temporarily change my handle.
Mamba24, please note.

Good day ladies and gents, I can really give a RATs @zz about last night game. The Lakers are the best team on the planted period, one close game means nothing. A win is a win, the journey continues and there'll be other close games, it doesn't matter. The only important thing is what JON K says, just enjoy the ride.

Mamba24, "The Godfather"

Good day ladies and gents, I can really give a RATs @zz about last night game. The Lakers are the best team on the planted period, one close game means nothing. A win is a win, the journey continues and there'll be other close games, it doesn't matter. The only important thing is what JON K says, just enjoy the ride.Posted by: 2Phatt | November 10, 2010 at 08:07 AM
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DAMN!! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! Carry on sir!

In honor of dbdh, and in light of recent events in South Beach, I lone star laker fan do hereby temporarily change my handle. Mamba24, please note. Posted by: Don't Blame Eric Spoelstra | November 10, 2010 at 08:07 AM
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LMAO!! Please, Please, Please! Don't tease the inferior competition. The Princess may still be taking notes. Yes I can see it now: Come on guys let's win one for Spoelstra!! Wow makes you want to run thru a brick wall don't it!! LOL!

Fabulous following your very fine advice and the very fine example set by Ron Ron, my Ex. and I have decided to...Yes, Yes, Yes!! Seek counseling. Isn't that wonderful!! So no Shake and Healing for us...Counseling. LMAO!!!

Rick, FYI, check out the current NBA stats/rankings for team rebounding.:

REBOUND PCT
RK TEAM OFF DEF TOT AL
1 Minnesota 17.1 32.3 49.4
2 Orlando 11.2 35.3 46.5
3 Houston 12.5 33.8 46.3
4 LA Lakers 13.4 32.8 46.1
5 Golden State 14.9 31.0 45.9
6 Chicago 10.8 34.2 45.0

Not exactly chopped liver, and particularly on the offensive boards.

Ugly game last night but it was in the end a win. As it was proven last night, every team will play their best when it comes to playing the World Champion Lakers. All I know is if the Lakers can play that bad and still win, we will have little to worry about this year.

5 more things to take away from game:

6. Why did luke play 15 minutes? Just mind boggling. Was phil trying to toy w the wolves or make rambis look good... First half luke was the first guy off the bench and he logged more minutes than barnes

7. Why is phil messin with the bench chemistry? If it aint broke why fix it.. Why phillip why?? Phils new substitution patterns with luke is totally screwin up the chemistry and suddenly everyone looks lost out there and don't think the blake and luke pick n roll is gonna work here

8. Free love.. Is it any coincidence first game of the year love gets significant minutes he just goes ape bananas? 24 RBS r u kidding me!

9. MM will critique kobe every chance he gets.. Why is kobes shot selection one of ur headlines? Give me a break MM

10. Say good bye to laker blowouts... Before lukes return lakers bench was on a rampage blowin out opponents.. Now lukes back and they can barely beat out last place teams toronto and minnesota.

THE ONLY PEOPLE WACHING THAT GAME AGAIN WILL BE THE LAKERS BECAUSE PJ DOESN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN

Can anyone explain me what is the method/algorithm whatever Jon Hollinger on BSPN uses to arrive at his "power" rankings??

I fail to understand how a team which is 5-3, one that just squandered a 22-pt lead and LOST, be ranked above a team which is 8-0.

Is it called Laker-Hate Index?? :)

I HEAR THAT THEY ARE ALREADY FORMING A COMMITTEE IN MIAMI TO DETERMINE IF bp IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DISASTER AS WELL

Is it called Laker-Hate Index?? :) Posted by: Kobefan in Cupertino | November 10, 2010 at 08:26 AM
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I BELIEVE WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!

Ya know, this hatred and obsessing over Luke is starting to become as bad as DFish's obsession over...well DFish. Let it go guys. It's not like ANYONE did ANYTHING to establish an inside game on either end of the court yesterday. The only bad thing I saw Luke do was jack up 3's, and he wasn't the only one clanging those off the rim. I think you saw the longest burn Luke is going to see all season.

JR

>>>The game is painful to watch when Luke is in.

I knew there had to be some Luke bashing after he actually got a few minutes last night.

Luke's looking out of sync, that's for sure. Bynum is going to look this crappy the first time he gets any real time on the floor as well.

But I will point out that the Lakers were +6 with Luke on the floor, usually with 3 other bench players and one starter.

If you want to get critical, be critcal of Lamar, who was just going through the motions. How many times did we watch Lamar just stand there and watch for a couple of seconds while Telfair or someone else slowly drew themselves up and took a wide open 3? How many times did Lamar just let Kevin Love take a rebound.

Or be critical of Steve Blake, who had 5 turnovers overall, including two straight giveaways for fast breaks in the 4th.

Or if you want to be critical of Luke's 1 for 5 shooting, then also consider Shannon Brown's 1 for 5 shooting and Fish's 1 for 6 shooting (and Kobe's 1-for-6 in the fourth quarter).

Luke looked like a guy trying to get back up to full NBA game speed, & he looked rusty. But the team was more successful with him on the court than Lamar, for example.

In short, the BLOG IS MORE PAINFUL when whiners blame Luke rather than ascribing blame where it should go.

Why did luke play 15 minutes? Just mind boggling. Was phil trying to toy w the wolves or make rambis look good... First half luke was the first guy off the bench and he logged more minutes than barnes
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Yello,

Lakers were showcasing Luke for Kurt to justify when they trade him to the Wolves for Love.

This is to…Yes, Yes, Yes! The Fabulous Justanothermambafan - Thanks GDUB!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INn1C6ImJKg - DENSITY – Zero7

Just my prescription, keep it close to give pundits something to write and analyze especially Heat turns into Cold and Pacers are making news as well as Hornets. Stern must be smiling saying NO to lockout and balance strength because of his new officiating rule. See, we were able to extract so many stories out from non-event day boring day because players are just coasting along through a long season. However, people tweets, posts on face book, blogs incessantly while the media is happy in generating much needed revenues.

With lackluster performance of the purple and gold, Rambis shines and proves to everyone that he belongs to Coaches on the rise; same with Kevin Love, he is now a go-to-guy of the T'wolves because Lakers could not stop him. This rookie Johnson builds up confidence because he could guard and piss off Kobe while Darko Milicic now believes on his ability because he could go toe-to-toe with Pau. The Catalan fans think Pau is the most valuable player international player ever played in NBA, therefore Darko is not far behind because he could keep up with disinterested Pau. I also observed that the term "most valuable" is now a trite and very common expression based on individual perception ignoring universal acceptance. Anyone can say "most valuable" and sell it like it is. That's what is blogging brings everyone has an opinion. Who remembers all these things at the end of the season? Nobody, only W & L are recorded, what's is recorded is that Lakers are 8 - 0 on Nov. 11th.

"In honor of dbdh, and in light of recent events in South Beach, I lone star laker fan do hereby temporarily change my handle.
Mamba24, please note."

Posted by: Don't Blame Eric Spoelstra

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Honored, indeed!

DBDH!

Love 20 rebounds, Caracter could easily have grabbed 10 of those. Why is Luke playing PF?

In honor of dbdh, and in light of recent events in South Beach, I lone star laker fan do hereby temporarily change my handle. Mamba24, please note." Posted by: Don't Blame Eric Spoelstra
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Very well in light of recent events in LA, I mamba24 temporarily change my handle to Don't Blame Luke. mamba24, please note. Wait there is no more Mamba24, can i temporarily change back to Mamba24 to note this and then change back to Don't Blame Luke?


LongTimeLakerFan,

That was an excellent post. I agree it's ridiculous to pick on just one player. When others don't play well, each of them should be called out, as you showed.

Everyone: I just want LA to build as large of a cushion as they can early. Recent history indicates that the hard slogs (including those Brutal East Coast Swings) are between mid-January and the All-Star Break and between late Februrary and early March. Then some marquee matchups in the last 2 weeks of the season.

As long as LA handles its business in most of the winnable games, it can get HCA through June. The Heat will face playoff games each night and the C's will be resting legs in the winter.

I'm sure you all will hold it down as I continue to focus on football. My heart is still recovering from the Finals so I'm pacing myself!

Peace

I'm sure you all will hold it down as I continue to focus on football. My heart is still recovering from the Finals so I'm pacing myself!Posted by: Peace | November 10, 2010 at 08:43 AM
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WTH? Hold it down while you continue to focus on football? Heart still recovering from the Finals? AW HELL NAW!! GET UP, Get up right now and run, run man as fast as your legs can carry you to your nearest pharmacy and get you a bottle of Dr. Fatty's Lakerholic Elixir. this is a malady that can be easily cleared up with the Elixir, but you must hurry or next you will be saying things like: Brett Favre is the savior of football or The 49ers should resign their head coach to a long term contract. Hurry man you have no time to lose.


>>>Why is Luke playing PF?

Because Lamar played like he didn't get enough candy before the game and Caracter is a youngster who would have gotten his lunch eaten by Love & Darko.

LTLF

now that you had your Luke Defense (sounds like a chess move), maybe you can enlighten us how the Cavs scrubs outscored the Nets Scrubs like 50-20. and how Farmy playing 22:30 minutes had 1-6, 0-3 for 2 points but he was like n+ while on the court.

unfortunately, the Nets lost at home.

if Hollinger can come up with a "winning formula" for his clients, i'm sure you can do it better. you practiced that from 2006 and still going … the "energizer"

you can enlighten us how the Cavs scrubs outscored the Nets Scrubs like 50-20. and how Farmy playing 22:30 minutes had 1-6, 0-3 for 2 points but he was like n+ while on the court.
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who cares?

ouchhhhhh,

>>>now that you had your Luke Defense (sounds like a chess move), maybe you
>>>can enlighten us how the Cavs scrubs outscored the Nets Scrubs like 50-20.
>>>and how Farmy playing 22:30 minutes had 1-6, 0-3 for 2 points but he was
>>>like n+ while on the court.

Actually, they broke even with Farmar on the floor. The difference between Jersey and Cleveland is that most of those Cadavaliers had defense drilled into them and they actually play some. Also, the Cav's bench includes Antawn Jamison, Daniel Gibson, and Ramon Sessions - 3 guys who have started at various points in their careers. Farmar got 5 assists, despite passing to D-leaguers like Kris Humphries and Damion James.

And it amuses me that you point out Jordan Farmar's 1 for 6 shooting. Kinda resembled Derrick Fisher's 1 for 6 shooting and Shannon Brown's 1 for 5 shooting.

It amuses me that your eyes can clearly focus on the flaws of players you hate, but they get a little blurry when watching your pet players.

But as Art-FL Laker Fan mentioned...

>>>>who cares?

exactly. Now that you've had your whine about Farmar and I've stooped to your level with a response, can we get back to discussing the Lakers?

I was completely off with my prediction, so much for a 15-20 point win ha-ha!

disinterested = impartial. the lakers look uninterested, not disinterested. this is what happens when blogs are posted unedited ... pathetic, times.

here's a sixth thing to take from the game: luke walton should be put out of his (and our) misery and be released or traded (what will a sasha-luke combo get in a trade?). anyone other than phillip think luke has more to offer than devin ebanks? get over your hatred of rookies, mr. zen. ebanks has game, luke doesn't.

We've been waiting for YEARS for luke to get up to nba speed. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!! There is not enough triangle spacing and ball movement in the world to justify the poor dribbling, the poor post "moves", the poor shooting, and poor defense that is Luke Walton. I submit that Luke with the clipboard last season was more valuable.

DO YOU KNOW WHY TWOLVES LEADS THE LEAGUE IN OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS?:

most shots that miss are short. a team that plays like it is going to miss shots will all anticipate ball bouncing off the rim short so did you see the team all swarm in after each shot to get the rebound?? that is how they play. like they KNOW they will miss every shot.

I am convinced that Lamar will turn back into a pumpkin, if asked to go to the bench. For the regular season, let Bynum be the star of the 2nd unit. Let Blake feed him lob passes to run up the score. While penetration defense is better, the offense def slows down when Bynum is in the lineup. For the playoffs, let Bynum start if he proves he is ready.

Just my 2 cents. I am loving the flow of the offense. This is what we always wanted from LO. Right?

Imma a lil late but thanks 4 the props mamba24 and chicnstu..........

The game is painful to watch when Luke is in. That man can't play basketball and has no business being on the court.

4g3n7 (i.e, Agent)

Posted by: 4g3n7 | November 10, 2010 at 06:29 AM

No offense, but you sir are a dufus...even by (not me) Luke Walton non-supporters standards.


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