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Five things to take away from the Lakers' 118-107 win over the Milwaukee Bucks

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1. The Lakers' ended their losing streak and avoided more scrutiny. Their 118-107 victory Tuesday over the Milwaukee Bucks needs to be taken with a dose of perspective, considering the Lakers initial eight-game winning streak invited questions about breaking the 72 regular-season mark and their two-game losing streak brought up concerns that their early-season success was a mirage. Losing three games in a row -- which has happened only once since the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol in February 2008 -- would open the floodgates up even more.

More importantly, the Lakers started off a three-game trip on a good note and they displayed a few positive developments detailed below.

2. The Lakers' defense improved in the second half. The final score might not show it, but that reflects more of Milwaukee's first-half offensive firepower. Instead of learning their lesson from the Phoenix game about honing down on defense and playing at a more deliberate pace, the Lakers continued bad habits. They allowed Milwaukee to score 59 first-half points. Milwaukee's Brandon Jennings scored 19 points on eight-of-13 shooting, thanks to uncontested drives to the basket and open mid-range jumpers. And the Lakers continued pushing the tempo that has led to their league-leading 112 points per game.

The Lakers finally adjusted in the second half by slowing the tempo down. That's an approach they're going to need to take throughout the season because both their offensive and defensive strengths hinge on half-court play, rather than in the open court. The Lakers proved they can run with teams thus far this season, but it's an approach that will likely catch up to them once fatigue and injuries become more and more of a prevalent issue.

3. Shannon Brown has a huge fourth quarter Brown has shown all preseason and in 11 games how countless hours in the gym have paid off in molding him into a complete player. So it shouldn't be all that surprising that Brown scored 16 of his 21 points in the fourth quarter, but it's a little eye-popping that his contributions came all at once. Usually Brown has showed his shooting stroke in various snapshots throughout the game, whether it's on a fastbreak, off a sharp cut during a half-court set or during an impressive drive. Brown displayed all those assets at a time the Lakers needed to put the game away.

4. The Lakers showed teamwork. Kobe Bryant went on scoring tears with vintage turnaround jumpers. Pau Gasol (18 points, 10 rebounds) outmanned Andrew Bogut with post-ups and drives to the lane, most notably when Gasol performed a spin move along the baseline for a reverse layup. Lamar Odom (13 points, seven rebounds) ignored the pain from the bone bruise in his right foot and still displayed his versatility with timely jumpers and aggressiveness on the glass. Matt Barnes (nine points, five rebounds) showed his typical grit by mixing it up inside. And Steve Blake (six points, two assists) appeared as if his stomach issues were behind him, going back to his usual role in energizing the offense despite putting up modest numbers. The Lakers didn't necessarily bring anything new, but it was interesting to see all these contributions mold together in one game.

5. Lakers Coach Phil Jackson has little faith in Derrick Caracter. The Lakers have played with a limited frontcourt all of preseason because of Andrew Bynum's rehabilitation on his surgically repaired right knee and Caracter's inexperience. But as Gasol and Odom continued piling on minutes, Jackson increased Caracter's role. It seemed like an even bigger possibility that role would expand Tuesday becaue Theo Ratliff missed the trip while getting arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, a procedure the team expects will sideline him four to six weeks.

Before the game, Jackson floated several ideas to reporters, acknowledging he'd like the front office to pursue acquiring a free agent for the Lakers' front line, playing Caracter at backup center, playing Ron Artest, Luke Walton and Devin Ebanks at power forward while Odom and Gasol moved up to center. Whether the Lakers will acquire another player still has to play out. But for now, Jackson didn't play Caracter one minute, while playing Artest, Walton and Ebanks at power forward. Obviously, part of this has to do with the fact the Lakers are on a back-to-back and might be saving more minutes for Caracter against Detroit. It's also not exactly surprising since Caracter lacks experience, but it's revealing nonetheless, particularly since Artest experienced problems with his hip during the game and Gasol logged 44 minutes.  

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, front, tries to hook in a shot as Milwaukee center Andrew Bogut, back center, defends during the Lakers' 118-107 victory Tuesday. Credit: Morry Gash/Associated Press

 
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MM: Enjoy the rundown, agree with your assessments.

One thing that could explain Phil's inexplicable decision not to play Caracter is the fact that he is desiring Mitch and management to go get another big, as you mention in your rundown. I could see this as a ploy by Phil, in demonstrating he lacks faith in Caracter, to force their hand and go get him one.

Looks like Phil is possibly trying to force their hand to act, it should be an interesting to see how this develops and how much time Caracter gets these upcoming games...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

So... can we bring back Banging MBenga?
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

888: I just looked at the reason that negotiations between Damp and the Rockets broke down because they didn't want to kick the 15th man off the roster, so I'm suspecting that there are some health issues with him. I found this quote interesting:

"By his estimation, Dampier has talked with between eight and ten teams about signing this season; he basically had an open invitation to play in Phoenix. The process began in training camp, and we're now a couple of weeks into the regular season, without a resolution. If Dampier is physically able to contribute this season, someone at some point will take a chance on him. But if he truly wanted to play, and truly had something left to contribute, something tells me he'd have signed by now."

The last line is telling. We don't need another broken down, aging (35-yr old) center on the roster. It was a great site to see Drew on the floor even if only for a few seconds. Hopefully Pau and L.O. can hold up until then.

I really wonder if Phil is purposely keeping Caracter out of the game, and keeping L.O. and Pau on the floor more minutes to press his case that they should go out and get a vet center. I wouldn't put it past him, but not sure if he'd risk injury to those guys simply to make a point.

I don't want to start a conspiracy theory lol, just thinking out loud...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Jon K: "So... can we bring back Banging MBenga?"
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Sadly, it's too late for that. He took his talents to Bourbon Street...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

I'm surprised ebanks was playing and not caracter this game to be honest, although that being said I think ebanks has more potential.

it also ticked me off that pj didn't take gasol out the last 3 minutes of the game to rest and allow caracter to play instead.

if we get another center.. please have it someone 'young' i don't even know why we signed ratliff in the first place as a back up center.. hes quite old what was the point in that? money issues?

Phil played Ebanks and Luke today so he might go with Caracter and Sasha tomorrow. He goes with his rotation and number of minutes log time based on what kind of player are you in his grand plan. Surely, Gasol & Kobe are his bread and butter.

With regards to Erick Dampier, he may not accept the Vet minimum. First, let's find out why he didn't sign with the teams in the East. Second, what is his motivation at this time either going back to NBA or waiting for better offers. I believe he didn't get the MLE contract so that is his price at this time. Lakers can only go for vet min. Lakers should still find a big body out there, as you can see an injured Bogut can play toe-to-toe with Pau. Lakers really need another 6'11' who could bang bodies in the post. We don't want Gasol getting hurt nor his hamstrings get inflamed due to long minutes.

Just got home...couldn't get a good stream, so we went to a casino and watched it at the sports book...

Nice 10-0 run...Shannon still looking very good...

Looks like we righted the ship...

Mark,
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Why five things? Why not 12 things or two things?
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

I volunteer to play back-up center for the Los Angeles Lakers.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!!

Edwin: "With regards to Erick Dampier, he may not accept the Vet minimum. First, let's find out why he didn't sign with the teams in the East. Second, what is his motivation at this time either going back to NBA or waiting for better offers. I believe he didn't get the MLE contract so that is his price at this time. Lakers can only go for vet min. Lakers should still find a big body out there, as you can see an injured Bogut can play toe-to-toe with Pau. Lakers really need another 6'11' who could bang bodies in the post. We don't want Gasol getting hurt nor his hamstrings get inflamed due to long minutes. "
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I think I jumped the gun supporting going out and getting him over other bigs, but really I can't see them getting anyone for the reasons I detailed before.

But the meat passed on him when he was out there, I believe the Hawks did too when they could have used him too. The recent fact that the Rockets passed on him, even with Yao hurt, is very telling.

Caracter looked a little bummed on one camera shot sitting on the bench. I think he may have been expecting to get some playing time given Ratliff going down and L.O.'s sore foot. I hope that you're right Edwin, that he is in the plans for tomorrow. Back-to-back road games riding Pau and L.O. hard will only serve to add to their weariness which is a concern so early in the season. Pau and L.O. both look to be lagging a little bit compared to the first couple games of the year, and fatigue could be setting in a bit already.

I really hope that there are no complications with Bynum's recovery - we can really use him out there to soak up some of those minutes - not to mention everything else he adds to the team...

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Jon K: "I volunteer to play back-up center for the Los Angeles Lakers."
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Me too! At 6'3" I fear I'm more guard material though... lol

Wouldn't that be cool though, even for a single minute of game time...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Thoughts on a nice road victory...

When the Bucks push tempo on you - you know "the how to beat the Lakers manual" says run, run, run.

Having a player like Kobe in the attack mode can't be understated.

Pau is giving up 20 lbs to Bogut, but he banged with him. Good job.

Lamar def didn't look 100% but still gutted it out.

Really impressed with Blake's floor game.

Shannon...Spartan Dawg doing his thang...look out!

@Lew – you’re right I didn’t hear your selection earlier. But I went back and checked it out and you weren’t fooling around today – you went straight up classic! I’m lovin it a whole lot…lol.


@MVP – My summation of the exchange is you felt Luke was better than Barnes (or at least a better fit with the Lakers than Barnes) and Truth disagreed. So far Truth has been correct imho. No biggie. Of course, Luke has been injured. But then again he was injured when the discussion took place and most of last year. Right now, Luke doesn’t appear to have confidence in his game. Anyway, I value your input on the blog so keep it coming.


@mclyne – Excellent U2 selection. Touching lyrics.


@ms – Give me the Bee Gees anyday I don’t care what the critics say!


@4 lights – Good stuff on the blog tradition list of 10

I think with detroits smaller centers Caracter will probably match up with Chris Wilcox....he won't be giving up as much height, I like this match up....even against Ben who's not such a scoring threat I can see Caracter having some quality minutes

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I agree that Caracter matches up well with the Pistons small front line. So he should get some decent minutes. FYI, I don’t think Wilcox has played yet this season. Mainly Charlie V, Ben, Maxiell and rook Monroe upfront.

CyberCosmiX,

Well, Caracter was showing some rookie jitterbugs, tho' he helped in rebounds, blocks and follow ups. PJ is trying to go with match up. Like for example tonight every time Jenkins is on the floor, he puts in Fisher except in the last quarter. However, with b2b games he has to spread the energy of his remaining bigs, Gasol and LO.

Jon - if you get the Lakers gig can you score me tickets? Thanks, buddy.

Is there any possible that we can gather enough bronze to immortalize Kobe Bryant's sac?

http://hoopstopia.com/got-statues/

Shannon Brown is the MAN !! He is the most improved Laker and should be taking Fisher's place on the first team. Fisher cannot make a single layup. It's a joke everytime he tries to do a layup. Kobe must be in first place witht he most turnovers ?? He has quite a lot of them. THE "KILLER B'S" are great and do a great job when on the floor. Lots of improvement from last year. What the heck is Luke Walton doing on the floor ?? He is way out of it and should consider sportscasting.

dave m,
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Consider it done.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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Jon K,

Which Center will u play at Staples or LA Live? I will carry the placard "the blog is doom"

GDUB,

Good call on Shannon for the NBA's MIP award (Most Improved Player). If he keeps playing like this he'll definitely be in the running.

That Clara Hill is talented and versatile. I think I like her mid/slow stuff better.

When a Laker has to have a great game to win its a sure sign the team is playing lousy defense.

Congrats on spearing the deer, LA.

Now wish the SUNS luck please in their visit to Miami tonight to tangle with the ego of the year LaBrawn James.

Good morning Fam.
Forced home by fever (I'm getting better LRob and Larry... you cuties :) Thanx for the shoutouts ;)), and still blessed by an only Beatles playlist (oh, that surely is healing!) I could finally catch up with all comments (congrats to back-2-back LakerJ!).

Game of this past night went pretty much as expected.

I am glad we won; I am still not really convinced about our D, MM.
Yes, we showed improvement in the second half, but to me it looked more like Bucks couldn't sustain their rhythm and precision in shooting than a conglomerated, solid effort on real Lakers D by our guys.

I was still watching mismatches and way too open spaces and looks.

There was still a certain inability in grabbing offensive rebounds (sure the stupid Stern-er conjure with ridicolous foul calls is something that makes us a little taken aback there, but to me it's more the lack of Andrew and Lamar's clear play with smal injury that leads to that: Pau alone can't do it all...), and a concrete side blindness in the vaste majority of our transitional plays.

Luckily, being AGES better than Bucks (they really aren't a thing) and having some consistent BBBench play, those minus could get covered.

Covered don't mean erased, let alone solved.

I was really surprised the way we kept play at a pace which isn't ours and that moreover wasn't really needed at all.
In chat MM and I were totally on the same point about it: Lakers have to impose their play; anytime we let others decide we're on a suicide path; and while Bucks as I said couldn't really bring it on for a whole game, many other teams playing their kind of style would have, causing us way major concerns and wounds.

I'm watchin all this as training.
Clearly it isn't what PJ wants, but I suppose it's a way to test us still.

This year our bench allows us some more testing of this type; but even though this will be precious later in the season, this approach can serve us some more unexpected and possibly bitter disappointment along the road.

Personally, I don't truly care, because I see what we can achieve anytime we play "our way" and let it go; I can accept some more losses as long as we exploit all possible combinations of our talents; I keep waiting for Bynum to come back to actually have the full chances at ease.

I'm not very concerned about latest Ron's roll: a part of me instead of blaming Luke (isn't he like the Judas everyone blames around here?... You know I love the guy and I still think he can do something positive for us in his limited time) blames David Arquette insanity.
Seriously... dude is plastered constantly.
Someone puts up an intervention, or at least keep him AWAY, very far away from Ron, or any other Lakers, thank you.

I'm really curious to see how the way we played the Bucks will affect our game today.

I am curious to see if the forced need to slow down stuff (we can't really go all rally all the time after 18 hours, can we?) will actually make us IMPROVE, because it's certain that the pacing we've tried to offer as of late AIN'T our thing.

It makes us messy, disconnected, and chaotic.

Our superior talent can patch it over, but not always if others exploit our exposed weaknesses (Denver, Phoenix).

I expect some Sasha game today.

Let's hope he can show the humility and commitment Shannon did.
I'm really pleased with the kid: he's showing a maturity that last year we could only guess about him; the fact we chose HIM over Jordan surely is getting repaid majorly.

I'm really happy.
A 7th man like him, pumped, ready to fit, and again - I reapeat - ego-less is the best thing we can ask for nowadays.

I'm confident we can move on along on the best road today.

I am still in awe everytime we play "As Lakers Should and Can and MUST" because then it's clear nobody comes even near.

But yet we are just a work in progress.

It isn't a bad thing in my book.

So I'm all fine.

Song for today?

Twist and shout ;) It fits ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVlr4g5-r18

Catch you later. Being home... I can ;) Hugs!!

PS: today sun shines and it's an amazing day in Milan. *sigh*... just when I cannot put nose outside... Oh well... rest isn't bad after all ;)

LLL, Z. :)

Like most Laker fans, I was very disappointed with the way they played the 1st half; no defense, or lack of it.
2nd half was much better. Even if the Lakers played 6-9 minutes of defense they got the win. Thats what they need to do. Play some D. The offense comes easy when you see every player rotate and cover spots. The highlights of games come from defensive stops.
Sidenote- Why is Pau Gasol playing so many minutes per game when he is not included in half of the plays? For the minutes he is playing he should be averaging 28 points per game, if not more.

I know its too early to say it; but if Kobe 3peats along Pau Gasol this season, who is he going to thank first for his 6(+) rings? Shaq or Gasol?
I guess it all depends who Shaq recognizes first as well. Screw chronological order. Rank the Rings according to sentiment.

Caracter should be playing,
Phil must be sleeping during games not to see that Gasol
and Odom are spent! Bogut ate up the boards last night.
Wake up Phil!

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GET WELL SOON ZAIRA AMATERASU(BLOG GODDESS) - BANDWAGON
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I will be short and mainly just cheering you because I have a BIG fever and gotta rest a while
if I want to make it for tonight chat.Not even fever can stop my Lakerholism, no matter if I
have to wake up at 2 am ;) Forced home by fever (I'm getting better LRob and Larry... you cuties :)
Thanx for the shoutouts ;)), and still blessed by an only Beatles playlist (oh, that surely is healing!)
I could finally catch up with all comments (congrats to back-2-back LakerJ!).
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(01) THE OUTLAW – OWNER – GET WELL ZAIRA
(02) FEARLESS – DRIVER – Get well soon Goddess Zaira
(03) LROB – RIDING SHOTGUN - @Zaira - get better.
(04) MAMBA24 – Get well soon Goddess. When you hurt Laker nation hurts
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Zaira get well soon
(06) LAKER LASS – Get well Zaira
(07) FAN OF THE MAMBA -
(08) PHRED
(09) RICK FRIEDMAN
(10) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL

know its too early to say it; but if Kobe 3peats along Pau Gasol this season, who is he going to thank first for his 6(+) rings? Shaq or Gasol? I guess it all depends who Shaq recognizes first as well. Screw chronological order. Rank the Rings according to sentiment. Posted by: Joe_Corad | November 17, 2010 at 03:11 AM
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Good morning Joe how are you this lovely Lakers day morning?
Rank the Rings acoording to sentiment! Love it my brother!!
Carry On!!

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ARISE OH MIGHTY LA LAKERS NATION. THE WORLD BELONGS TO US. WE GOT THIS!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A – National Anthem – Marvin Gaye
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GAME DAY BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
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http://tinyurl.com/2d8r95l - Aint No Stopping Us Now _ McFadden WhiteHead
http://tinyurl.com/2c3uutk - IT’S TIME FOR WAR *
http://tinyurl.com/26p8aet LETS GET DIRTY
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Hey everyone!

Good to see a lot of you on the chat last night/this morning. I petered out at the beginning of the 4th (had 10 am class), but am happy with the Lake Show pulling out the win. I am also sad that I missed Shannon's shooting show.

Perhaps one of the reasons why Derrick didn't play last night was because Milwaukee uses "hybrid" power forwards - Luc Richard and Ilyasova come to mind, and Gooden isn't a "traditional" 4 either. Playing Devin, Luke and Ron at that spot is a good idea for that team. I am hoping that Character gets more minutes against Detroit and their brawny 4/5 (maxiell, wallace) who are not particularly tall.

Hope everyone has a good start to their Wednesday!

I am still in awe everytime we play "As Lakers Should and Can and MUST" because then it's clear nobody comes even near. But yet we are just a work in progress. It isn't a bad thing in my book. So I'm all fine.Song for today? Twist and shout ;) It fits ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVlr4g5-r18 Catch you later. Being home... I can ;) Hugs!! PS: today sun shines and it's an amazing day in Milan. *sigh*... just when I cannot put nose outside... Oh well... rest isn't bad after all ;) LLL, Z. :) Posted by: ZairaAmaterasu | November 17, 2010 at 02:33 AM
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Good Morning Goddess! Great comments. Great Song! Hope you feel better soon Goddess, you know when you hurt Laker Nation hurts. :)

Mamba24 -

Please put me on the "Get Better Zaira" bandwagon.

Mamba-
The morning is nice so far. How is urs?
Lakers vs Pistons, should be a good hard fought match up. Like MM stated, Detroit likes to beat the Lakers; if they do, that makes their season highlight.

Good Morning Cali! Hope Classes are doing well. Another day another win! Yes I'm hoping that Character gets more minutes also. Good point about Detroits size sir. Well have a great Lakers Day the game tonight comes on a half an hour earlier than last night so youjust might make it all the way through this time. LOL! Carry on sir!
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GET WELL SOON ZAIRA AMATERASU(BLOG GODDESS) - BANDWAGON
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I will be short and mainly just cheering you because I have a BIG fever and gotta rest a while
if I want to make it for tonight chat.Not even fever can stop my Lakerholism, no matter if I
have to wake up at 2 am ;) Forced home by fever (I'm getting better LRob and Larry... you cuties :)
Thanx for the shoutouts ;)), PS: today sun shines and it's an amazing day in Milan. *sigh*... just
when I cannot put nose outside... Oh well... rest isn't bad after all ;) and still blessed by an only
Beatles playlist (oh, that surely is healing!)
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(01) THE OUTLAW – OWNER – GET WELL ZAIRA
(02) FEARLESS – DRIVER – Get well soon Goddess Zaira
(03) LROB – RIDING SHOTGUN - @Zaira - get better.
(04) CALIPHILOSOPHER – RIDING SHOTGUN2 - Please put me on the
"Get Better Zaira" bandwagon.
(05) MAMBA24 – Get well soon Goddess. When you hurt Laker nation hurts
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Zaira get well soon
(07) LAKER LASS – Get well Zaira
(08) FAN OF THE MAMBA -
(09) PHRED
(10) RICK FRIEDMAN
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL

The morning is nice so far. How is urs?
Lakers vs Pistons, should be a good hard fought match up. Like MM stated, Detroit likes to beat the Lakers; if they do, that makes their season highlight. Posted by: Joe_Corad | November 17, 2010 at 05:24 AM
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Hey Joe! You know mine couldn't be better after a Laker win. Yeah I think it's gonna be a slugfest tonight. But I see the Lakers winning by about 8 points. But Joe, Joe any team if they beat the Lakers that makes their season, cause they know in the end the only team getting that Ring is...The Freakin Back-to-Back NBA champion LA Lakers. Have a great day my brother!

MAMBA24 -

The Detroit game starts a half hour earlier? Excellent! You're right, I might make it all the way through, as I only have one class tomorrow, and that's at 2 in the afternoon here (6 am PST).

I can't wait for the Lakers to play more games on the east coast lol!

I can't wait for the Lakers to play more games on the east coast lol! Posted by: Caliphilosopher | November 17, 2010 at 05:39 AM
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Cali, that's what I live for! LOL!

OK to start the morning music how abo0ut a mini Patrice Rushen concert
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amzp7W0RkPA Forget me Nots – Patrice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucZlf4VG-c – Let the music take me – patrice rushen
http://tinyurl.com/27xawrc – You Remind me - Patrice Rushen
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Good Morning Laker Fam,

The Lakers should make it two in a row pretty easy tonight. The Pistons just don’t have the talent to pull the upset. But of course, this is their Super Bowl so the Lakers need to bring the energy and execution.


Today’s selection had to be a Detroiter. It was a tough call but I’m going with the woman Rolling Stone Mag voted the #1 singer of all-time. This is a simply magnificent song by “Retha” and very appropriate cause I’m going to the game tonight and “Ain’t No Way” the Lakers are losing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6HhtnxA4F0&feature=related

Today’s selection had to be a Detroiter. It was a tough call but I’m going with the woman Rolling Stone Mag voted the #1 singer of all-time. This is a simply magnificent song by “Retha” and very appropriate cause I’m going to the game tonight and “Ain’t No Way” the Lakers are losing. ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6HhtnxA4F0&feature=related Posted by: LRob | November 17, 2010 at 06:17 AM
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Good Morning LROb. Talking about Losing, you about to make a grown man lose it playing that cut. Simply Outstanding!! Just make sure you represent at the game! LOL! Carry On!

OK my next selection is to Yes, Yes, Yes, The Fabulous Justanothermambafan

http://tinyurl.com/ybd52pe - Get here if you can – Oleta Adams
http://tinyurl.com/3ysaj7p - If you Love – Brenda Russel

When it comes to "most improved", yea- Shannon Brown has done that....in
substantial measures. But really, isn't Shannon Brown great this season, because
it's his time to do so? He's been with the Lakers for at least two seasons. He's
been incubating and learning all this time. Yes, he made some crazy moves in
the past, where we weren't sure what the heck he was thinking. But now, I believe
that he is becoming the player he was always meant to be. He's matured and
doing this by leaps and bounds. Look at all his 3pt shots. He's lethal now. And
dare I say it?.... that maybe Shannon Brown will be the 'heir apparent' after Kobe
Bryant retires.. GO LAKERS.........GO SHANNON!

He's lethal now. And dare I say it?.... that maybe Shannon Brown will be the 'heir apparent' after Kobe Bryant retires.. GO LAKERS.........GO SHANNON! Posted by: shannonfan 12 | November 17, 2010 at 06:29 AM
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Good morning Shannonfan and welcome to Lakers Nation and Lakers Blog! I think you are on to something there and I think I'm going to have to say...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!!! Carry On and welcome Aboard!!

Good Morning Mamba 24 and Laker blog fam,

Shake it off Goddess and get well soon!


Shannon's a runnin', gunnin', dunkin' example that you can work your way to the top of the shot charts.

Other players, who shall remain nameless, (Luke) should learn while they earn.

@Fan of The Mamba, Good morning and how are you on this wonderful Lakers Back-to-Back Day?
I have a feeling it’s going to be an ugly game tonight. Slow tempo, a lot of fouls and low final score.
I say Lakers by 6.
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GET WELL SOON ZAIRA AMATERASU(BLOG GODDESS) - BANDWAGON
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(01) THE OUTLAW – OWNER – GET WELL ZAIRA
(02) FEARLESS – DRIVER – Get well soon Goddess Zaira


(08) FAN OF THE MAMBA - Shake it off Goddess and get well soon!
(09) PHRED
(10) RICK FRIEDMAN
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL

Other players, who shall remain nameless, (Luke) should learn while they earn. Posted by: VMan | November 17, 2010 at 06:42 AM
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LOL!!! Stop that!!!

Edwin's placard - "the blog is doom" - that made my morning!! I'm laughing now and time to head off into my day.

Pau looked TIRED Lakers need to get a big man soon.

Kobe is 19th in turnovers. He has the ball in his hands a lot. John Wall is #1 with 4.4 (young, give him a break) and LeBrick is #2 with 4.4. D-Wade is #5 - bad if you are Miami ;-) Kevin Durant is #4. Kobe had a bad game against Phoenix with 8, but overall is doing well. His shot is coming back as good as ever. He hit all 11 free throws. A few of those fallaways were vintage Kobe. His numbers get a little skewed because he ends up having to take tough shots at the end of the clock when nobody else can get anything going.

Downtown Shannon Brown!!! Damn... that is all I can say. Damn. I called it last game saying Kobe should have gave it up to the hot hand in Phoenix. In this game he did and Brown was amazing. It will never hurt Kobe's game having another guy on the team that the opponent has to worry about. Give Kobe some floor and he will rip you a new one. It was a great time for Shannon to step up with Lamar playing hurt, Pau banging against the big guys every night, and Artest obviously not able to play.

Bench - much better. Even without Shannon, they shot 60%. They also got it going in the third and started looking like Renegades again.
Defense - was relieved to finally see some D in the second half - held an opponent to under fifty in a half for the first time in a while (Timberwolves was last time). This was without Artest. Barnes is tough inside. He intimidates people... ;-)

Pau - Give the guy some rest. We need him later.

Caracter - Give the guy a chance. He is a bruiser. Let him take some of the bruises and give Pau a breather. It is the beginning of the season. He needs the experience. PJ doesn't trust him because he doesn't have enough experience. Give him some. He could have played the last three minutes. Not that I would ever question PJ - ok every once in a while.

Cool stat - Lamar and D-Fish are #4 and #5 in the league shooting threes. 58.8% and 58.3%

Sasha - I would like to see Sasha in the game. He pisses people off on defense and his shot seemed to be falling at the end of last season. I think hitting those free throws at the end of game 7 should rate him getting some playing time. I feel bad for Maria – give the lady a break. Not that I would ever question PJ - ok every once in a while.

I am a Lakerholic.

Three and a half more things to take away from the game last night:

1) OMG, when no one was looking, our Lakers got transformed into...the Suns?! Casual to non-existent defense. Jacking up 3s all over the place. Strategy for winning: score around 120 every game and hope the other team only scores 115 or less. I say it's Butler's fault for hanging around here too much.

2) Shan-Wow has absolutely positively earned the PG spot on the starting unit. We're a totally different team with him in the lineup. Phil...it's time. DFish can still play valuable spot minutes...as Shan-Wow's backups. Do it.

3) Well yes, as a matter of fact, there was a team out there that can play defense...the second unit with the Killer Bs. Phil, just play and replay the DVR for the starting unit to show them how the Killer Bs do it. Blake and Brown play in their man's face up high and squared up, aggressively blocking every penetration move. They slide OVER the screen and stay with their man so Pau doesn't get chasing behind him. And Barnes is angled perfectly to either cut off passing lanes or jump into them and steal the ball. THAT is how you play defense. MM, when you say "the Lakers' defense improved in the second half", it was more correctly the case that the Killer Bs played significant minutes together and showed how to play defense.

3 1/2) Mamba24, my bro, put me on the "Let's all help Zaira with her healing" bandwagon. Oh wait... (Seriously, Z Lady, get well soon.)

@Zaira - Rockin to the Beatles you're bound to get better soon.

@JoeCorad - I'll have to rank the ring in 2000 #1 because that showed that the Lakers were back. Then the ring in 2009 proved Kobe could win one without the Diesel. And of course beating Boston is alway creme de la creme.

Good Morning LROb. Talking about Losing, you about to make a grown man lose it playing that cut. Simply Outstanding!! Just make sure you represent at the game! LOL! Carry On!

Posted by: mamba24 | November 17, 2010 at 06:22 AM
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Good Morning Mamba,

You know we got to hit that sensitive side everyone once in awhile...lol. Anyway good to have your energy this morning. Hmmmm Aretha, Patrice, Oleta, Brenda...Do I detect a theme? Way to give Brenda some love. She's underrated.

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SHANNONS TIME IS HERE – MOST IMPROVVED PLAYER – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTRUTH – OWNER - WOW, Shannon Brown was unbelievable. Great to see Phil play
him and Blake to close out the game
(02) G in DC(aka GDUB) – DRIVER1| I said it on the Live Chat but, as of t'day, Shannon could
very well be the most improved player in the Association.
(03) LROB –DRIVER2 - Shannon...Spartan Dawg doing his thang...look out! Good call on Shannon
for the NBA's MIP award (Most Improved Player). If he keeps playing like this he'll definitely be
in the running.
(04) VMAN – RIDING SHOTGUN - Shannon's a runnin', gunnin', dunkin' example that you can
work your way to the top of the shot charts.
(05) KOBEMVP88 – RIDING SHOTGUN2 - Shannon's Brown game has improved exponentially on both ends of the court so far in this young season.
(06) BEDO – Shannon Brown is the MAN !! He is the most improved Laker
(07) FANOFTHEMAMBA -
(08) MAMBA24 - Juts Wow! That’s all just Wow!!
(09) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN -
(10) LAKERLASS -
(11) JAMIE SWEET - Shannon Brown. When he plays like that he allows Phil to actually give
Kobe a good break
(12) SHANNONFAN12 – SECURITY - When it comes to "most improved", yea- Shannon Brown has
done that....in substantial measures. But really, isn't Shannon Brown great this season, because
it's his time to do so? He's been with the Lakers for at least two seasons. He's been incubating and
learning all this time. Yes, he made some crazy moves in the past, where we weren't sure what the
heck he was thinking. But now, I believe that he is becoming the player he was always meant to be.
He's matured and doing this by leaps and bounds. Look at all his 3pt shots. He's lethal now. And
dare I say it?.... that maybe Shannon Brown will be the 'heir apparent' after Kobe Bryant retires.
GO LAKERS.........GO SHANNON!
(13)

The Earth has returned to its normal axis and rotation. All is right in the world.

Lakers 118
Bucks 107

Peace!

[dbdh]

Count me among those who did not think Shannon Brown could improve this much. Along with Barnes and Blake, the new, improved Shannon Brown is part of a vastly improved Laker bench. He still has work to do on his floor game, he is scary leading a fast break, but he is now a key part of this team.


The issue, obviously, is depth of bigs. With BOTH the true centers out, the Lakers are relying too much on Pau and an injured Odom. And they are long on length and skill, but short on bulk inside. Drew coming back will help a lot, but the Lakers need more depth inside and it is a hard commodity to come by.

***

Best wishes and better health to Zaira.

***


DBDH!

Busy trying to finish this first draft of this novel up the next few days, so not much time; still, fun game last night (after the first half).

Luke, rusty on entry, you have to admit, he gets passes to the post and to other players in a position to shoot. It's weird, uncanny, very Luke. I was watching him semi-drive in slo-mo (why didn't they just let him shoot a j?) and then dish - works great.

Shannon - really love to see a guy work hard and then have something to show for it. So many players never improve their game - hope he continues to play at this level and maybe even better.

D? We'll see. It's all effort, so let's see what happens.

I love when Blaker dishes to the post, it comes back out to him, and he sends it right back into the post after a reposition. Does my heart good.

Zaira - I hope you're feelin' better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI7b2z6xA7k

The Earth has returned to its normal axis and rotation. All is right in the world.Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | November 17, 2010 at 07:14 AM
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Yes it is DBDH, Yes it is! And it shall continue to be right all the way untill next june when The lkaers are awarded #17!
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GET WELL SOON ZAIRA AMATERASU(BLOG GODDESS) - BANDWAGON
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(01) THE OUTLAW – OWNER – GET WELL ZAIRA
(02) FEARLESS – DRIVER – Get well soon Goddess Zaira


(08) FAN OF THE MAMBA - Shake it off Goddess and get well soon!
(09) PHRED
(10) RICK FRIEDMAN
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL
(12) DON’T BLAME DEL HARRIS - Best wishes and better health to Zaira.


*____________________________________________________________________*
SHANNONS TIME IS HERE – MOST IMPROVVED PLAYER – BANDWAGON
*____________________________________________________________________*
(01) LAKERTRUTH – OWNER - WOW, Shannon Brown was unbelievable. Great to see Phil play
him and Blake to close out the game


(13) TOM DANIELS - Count me among those who did not think Shannon Brown could improve
this much. Along with Barnes and Blake, the new, improved Shannon Brown is part of a vastly
improved Laker bench. He still has work to do on his floor game, he is scary leading a fast break,
but he is now a key part of this team.

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How about a Brenda Russell set? Each record is a little Jewel and they are all dedicated to,
Do I have to Say it? Really? Really?....Yes, Yes, Yes! The Fabulous JustanotherMambaFan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrdXGLkQtg - Get here when you can – Brenda Russel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYa3YXjBQhg – Way back When – Brenda Russel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN91pQnifcM – Think it over – Brenda Russel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-STVTpaw98&feature=related _ God Bless You – brenda Russel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRcA2J6SuLw - If only for 1 night – Brenda Russell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-_J9pUyPm8&feature=related _ If you Love – Brenda Russle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYAWpdv7P0&feature=related A lil bit of Love _ brenda Russel
**** Note no hidden meaning or ulterior motive is conveyed by the dedication ************

@MVP – My summation of the exchange is you felt Luke was better than Barnes (or at least a better fit with the Lakers than Barnes) and Truth disagreed. So far Truth has been correct imho. No biggie. Of course, Luke has been injured. But then again he was injured when the discussion took place and most of last year. Right now, Luke doesn’t appear to have confidence in his game. Anyway, I value your input on the blog so keep it coming.

Posted by: LRob | November 16, 2010 at 10:27 PM
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Then my prose was poorly communicated. I agree, not only is it no biggie, it's stupid. I was merely expressing my pre-season concerns about Barnes based on his history and what MIGHT be going through Phil Jackson's mind because of the level of trust he has for Luke. When a player of Barnes' talent plays for so many different teams and not offered a contract commensurate with his talents, you just have to wonder. Also, it is no secret that the nuances of the triangle are difficult to learn, that Artest has problems getting comfortable in the offense last season, that Barnes would play less minutes than Artest, and that Luke understands the offense better than both of them combined. I thought I communicated that clearly, but apparently I didn't. My bad. I wasn't making any prognostications nor was I attempting to start any "HA HA you're wrong" wars with some random blogger who is a PROUD Luke Walton Basher and takes any sliver of opportunity to ram it down the throat of a blogger who supports Luke for his contributions to the Lakers. When I said I wasn't "COMPLETELY convinced" that Barnes would be in the rotation ahead of Luke, I thought that CLEARLY conveyed mere food for thought and no more. In other words, I was saying that there's a 90% chance that Barnes would be ahead of Luke in the rotation, but I left some room for Phil's quirkiness. But I will eat the crow if need be just to make the PROUD Luke Basher happy. Yeesh.

Mamba24 & Zaira,

"Blessed by a Beatles only playlist {oh, that surely is healing}."

How true, especially their tribute song to Glen Davis : "Baby, You`re a Rich Man"

*____________________________________________________________________*
SHANNONS TIME IS HERE – MOST IMPROVVED PLAYER – BANDWAGON
*____________________________________________________________________*
(01) LAKERTRUTH – OWNER - WOW, Shannon Brown was unbelievable. Great to see Phil play
him and Blake to close out the game
(02) G in DC(aka GDUB) – DRIVER1| I said it on the Live Chat but, as of t'day, Shannon could
very well be the most improved player in the Association.
(03) LROB –DRIVER2 - Shannon...Spartan Dawg doing his thang...look out! Good call on Shannon
for the NBA's MIP award (Most Improved Player). If he keeps playing like this he'll definitely be
in the running.


(13) TOM DANIELS - Count me among those who did not think Shannon Brown could improve
this much. Along with Barnes and Blake, the new, improved Shannon Brown is part of a vastly
improved Laker bench. He still has work to do on his floor game, he is scary leading a fast break,
but he is now a key part of this team.
(14) 63 FOOTER - Shannon - really love to see a guy work hard and then have something to show
for it. So many players never improve their game - hope he continues to play at this level and
maybe even better.
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*______________________________________________________________________*
GET WELL SOON ZAIRA AMATERASU(BLOG GODDESS) - BANDWAGON
*______________________________________________________________________*
(01) THE OUTLAW – OWNER – GET WELL ZAIRA
(02) FEARLESS – DRIVER – Get well soon Goddess Zaira
(03) LROB – RIDING SHOTGUN - @Zaira - get better. Rockin to the Beatles you're bound to get
better soon.


(12) DON’T BLAME DEL HARRIS - Best wishes and better health to Zaira.
(13) 63 FOOTER - Zaira - I hope you're feelin' better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI7b2z6xA7k
(14) CORNERJ - put me on the "Let's all help Zaira with her healing" bandwagon. Oh
wait... (Seriously, Z Lady, get well soon.)

Get well, Zaira!

Hard not to notice a greatly improved Shannon Brown.

Go Lakers!

Mamba24 & Zaira, "Blessed by a Beatles only playlist {oh, that surely is healing}." How true, especially their tribute song to Glen Davis : "Baby, You`re a Rich Man" Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | November 17, 2010 at 07:51 AM
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LOL! Very good Red. Good morning sir and how are you and that fine Celtics team of yours doing? Funny thing, I don't think you all are going to have much trouble with Princess Jimmy and his team at all if you meet in the playoffs. This is good because Red...We can't wait to meet the Celtics again in the Finals. This is the Rubber Match for this Decade. So make sure all the guys take their vitamins and get plenty of rest and yes even listen to the Beatles! LOL! Whatever it takes to get to the Finals where of course...The Lakers will be waiting for you. Have a wonderful day sir!

Shannon was definitely the man last nite. His offense is so improved I now EXPECT him to make every shot, as I used to with Kobe.

Good morning McFly - and thanks for the dedications. You're a sweetie!

Good morning McFly - and thanks for the dedications. You're a sweetie! posted by: justanothermambafan | November 17, 2010 at 08:15 AM
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Good morning Fabulous J. You are welcome and yes I am! LOL!

THE GODDESS POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS THE TRAINING CAMP FOR THE LAKERS, DUE TO A MIX-UP BY THE STERN TRAVEL AGENCY, SO THEY ARE STILL BEHIND THE LEARNING CURVE, AND ARE ALSO DEALING WITH THE NEW INJURIES . I LOOK FOWARD TO SEEING CHARACTER TONITE CONTRIBUTE,WHICH MAY BE THE PATTERN ON BACK TO BACKS. I WAS GLAD TO SEE LUKE IN THE GAME HE WILL NEVER HURT YOU ON OFFENSE, I KNOW I KNOW, BUT HE IS STILL ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE. BUT DON'T JUST LOVE WHAT SHANNON DID TO IMPROVE HIS GAME, THIS GROWTH OF A PLAYER IS REALLY A JOY TO SEE


Bring the CAP back!

The sky hook can't be stopped at any age.

Yeah, put me on Shannon wagon. He is like a roller or a pulley that creates movement and action. See how he lands when hit or roll with the punches, you get your money's worth. He got good ball joints. lol!

What we were missing in our two losses are the full exposure and maximum effectiveness of the killer B's. If they're down, Kobe & Co. can no longer sustain the Laker offense. The league has improved in the quality of players with fast pace, accurate shooting and rapid fire in the post. Even the superstars who are now oldies like KG, Shaq, Amare, Vinsanity, Boozer are having a hard time to catch up with youth movement. The way to go really is mix your lineup with youth and vets.

Hey Red,

Your state is pretty during Fall. We navigated the small towns along 395 & 95 it's just gorgeous. I can't say the same thing about your team. Only Rondo and PP are the only ones reliable especially on the road. The rest looked like fallen leaves. lol!

Good morning crew!

Couple thoughts....

PJ had to log minutes for Gasol because Bucks have been problematic for us the last few years, they are a projected playoff team and we needed to turn the ship after 2 setbacks.

I think tonight will be different. PJ doesn't need to get in the heads of the Pistons, they will be a different team soon given various trade rumors and he will need the bench's energy.

Shannon's my name and he's got the game! Woohoo!

Cheers - PLG

*____________________________________________________________________*
SHANNONS TIME IS HERE – MOST IMPROVED PLAYER – BANDWAGON
*____________________________________________________________________*
(01) LAKERTRUTH – OWNER - WOW, Shannon Brown was unbelievable. Great to see Phil play
him and Blake to close out the game
(02) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL – CO-OWNER - Shannon's my name and he's got the game! Woohoo!


(21) JOLLYRANCHER - Now Shannon needs someone to teach him shot selection and when to act like a journyman and make it look like doing cool stuff is just business as usual.
(22) RAMMNEETKB24 - He is definitely the MIP of the season thus far. He is putting up 10.3 ppg
and won us the game last night!

Coach Kobe written by Arash Markazi

"No one on the Lakers is happier for Brown's emergence then Bryant, who took Brown under his wing as soon as he was traded to the Lakers two years ago and has mentored him into the all-around player he has become this season."

"He's a worker," said Bryant, who called Brown his little brother. "He's talented, physically gifted, but he puts the work in."

To read article go to:
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/kobe/index?postId=5815736

Way to bring 'em along Kobe!

Go Kobe!
Go ShanWOW!
Go Lakers

At first I hated the idea of picking up the thug Barnes. Today with his significant minutes and good play, I realize we really needed him all along. Viva los Killer B's !!

If Phil is not going to use Caracter, why not let artest play back up center? That can give more minutes to Barnes at the 3. Think I'm crazy? Ask Chuck Hayes from the Rockets about that, or Wes Unseld.

Thanks for the love on the analysis. Looking forward to another game in about an hour!


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