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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 107-83 victory over Golden State Warriors

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--The Times' Mike Bresnahan notices the Staples Center crowd and the Lakers themselves performing the wave during L.A.'s 107-83 victory Sunday over the Golden State Warriors.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding credits the Lakers for not becoming complacent.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's David Lassen issued a memo to the Golden State Warriors: "As rules of engagement go, this may be right there with not bringing a knife to a gunfight. Letting the Lakers starters hit full stride in a run-and-gun game? Probably not your best option."

--The San Francisco Chronicle's Rusty Simmons explains how Stephen Curry's absence affected the Warriors in their loss to the Lakers.

--The Daily Breeze's Elliott Teaford argues that very little has slowed down the Lakers.

--The Oakland Tribune's Marcus Thompson II explains how the Lakers overwhelmed the Warriors.

Notebooks

--The Times' Bresnahan lists the things the Lakers are focusing on to prevent boredom.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's Lassen explains how the Lakers' bench still has work to do.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin notices that Lakers center Theo Ratliff has an energy drink bearing his name.

--The Daily Breeze's Teaford explains how Lakers Coach Phil Jackson is motivating his team.

Sidebars

--The Times' Broderick Turner explains how Pau Gasol has carried more of the workload thus far in the Lakers' season.

--The San Francisco Chronicle's Simmons reports that the Warriors haven't offered a contract extension to forward Brandan Wright.

--The Oakland Tribune's Thompson documents the shooting struggles of former Laker Vladimir Radmanovic.

Columns

--The Times' Mark Heisler looks at the difficulty the Lakers face in pacing themselves for a long season.

--The Orange County Register's Ding reports that Lakers owner Jerry Buss will support revenue sharing. 

--ESPN Los Angeles' McMenamin wonders why Earl Lloyd hasn't garnered more attention for breaking the NBA color barrier nearly 60 years ago.

--Fox Sports' Billy Witz argues that the Lakers already look like the best team in the Western Conference.

Blogs

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky breaks down the Lakers' victory over Golden State. Andy and Brian Kamenetzky also feature post-game video.

--NBA.com's Sekou Smith details Kobe Bryant's growing relationship with Gasol.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell breaks down the team's victory.

--Lakers Nation's Daniel Buerge recaps the Lakers' victory.

--Silver Screen and Roll's DexterFishmore enjoys the Lakers' blowout.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Phillip Barnett credits Lakers forward Lamar Odom for setting the tone early.

Other links

--ESPN.com's Marc Stein remains impressed enough with the Lakers play to keep them at No. 1

--Golden State of Mind's Fantasy Junkie breaks down the Warriors' loss.

Tweet of the Day: "Artest can't resist. He just stood up from his seat on the bench as the Wave swung around to his side of the arena." -- KevinDing (Orange County Register's Lakers beat writer Kevin Ding)

Reader Comment of the Day:"I'm loving the maturity this Lakers team is showing so early in the season. They understand that their goals right now are to iron out all the bugs and chemistry issues before worrying about being tested by the bigger teams in the Western Conference" -- OCisMambaCounty

-- Mark Medina
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Photo: Kobe Bryant, left, makes a pass in front of Golden State guard Monta Ellis during the Lakers' 107-83 victory Sunday at Staples Center. Credit: Jayne Oncea / US Presswire

 
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Kobe888,

"What on God's green earth was this supposed to mean? "

I have been called a Bynum basher for simply stating the obvious - that Bynum is injury prone, and that his absence will force Pau and Lamar to play heavy minutes, which may have repercussions down the line. Kobe has the same concerns. I was just wondering if you think Kobe is bashing Bynum for stating the obvious, and if you still think elongated Bynum's absence in the regular season is irrelevant?

Kobemvp888

Horford is one the league youngest and best centers.. An up and comer with no major history of injuries.. He's also physical and great rebounder and excellent post defender and shotblocker.. Also underdeveloped offensive moves but runs well and hustles.

Now would I take him over drew? That's a tough one.. But if I'm not a gamblin man I might play it safe give up some upside and go with the more consistent producer

Posted by: yellofever | November 01, 2010 at 11:43 AM
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Horford's not long enough nor versatile enough. The Hawks will never win a championship with him as their center. It's not "a tough one" at all IMHO. Most GMs would take Bynum, I guarantee it.

Andrew Bynum is a true back to the basket center with agility, soft hands, a high basketball IQ and a 7'6" wingspan that you can't teach. Yes, he's "injury prone," but he can compete in the low post against any center in the NBA even when playing at 50-60%. I raised this point because many fans whine about Bynum's salary and here is yet another big man (who is nothing compared to Bynum potential-wise) who an owner is willing to over pay. That's simply how it works in the NBA.

Lakers off to a good start. Shannon Brown is really coming around. Credit to Phil Jackson for fitting him in, and credit to Shannon Brown for working his way in. I really like how Shannon Brown is playing so under control this year. Ron Artest too, even though he still misses most of his shots.

RIP Maurice Lucas
Go Lakers!

Fan of the Mamba

i'm not very interested in "trading scrubs" subject. i leave the stage to LTLF for that. he will come up with all the scenarious possible, impossible and irresponsible. i also know that regardless what we decide, Buss will do whatever his pocket has to offer. makes me laugh when posters make trades to save him money.

so i enjoyed the ring, i enjoyed signing Blake, rolled my eyes at the decision, became annoyed with 3 years of Fried Fish and totally had indigestion with re-signing Shannon.

i had to wash my brain knowing that Gassy will be blown up like the Met Life or much better like the Goodrich?! Zeppelin and all he press will be ready to defend on one side the King and his South Beach Court and on the other side the Michael Jordan and his limited dead end 6 rings.

actually the real RENEGADE is Kobe Bryant.

also in San Francisco i don't know any other Lakers fans and it is almost dangerous to be one. so, all there is are blogs. but every year i kinda take the summer off and almost every year i forget my screen name. especially if i upgrade the system on my Mac that is happening often. (thank you steve jobbs)

and because i'm an artist and i do not have a 9-5 job, i'm not restrained in front of my desk and lakers Blog to be distracted from the job. also travel and ipod/iphone is not the best typing situation. but yes, i'm reading it. maybe too lazy to type. and i like ACTION

NO MERCY

greetings Lakers bretheren, the best thing about returning home after a trip to shanghai,china is seeing L.A. is 3 - 0 after beating the PHX SUNS! YES! and the golden state warriors. it's so fun to turn on my phone and go latimes.com to read up on last nights victory. THEN, to top it off, getting to read all of your comments about the nba's best team! i love the smell of 1st place in the morning!

GMs don't care about injury risks, all they care about is potential. That's why I deserve a $60 million contract as well.

Sincerely,

Greg Oden

Kobe888,

"What on God's green earth was this supposed to mean? "

I have been called a Bynum basher for simply stating the obvious - that Bynum is injury prone, and that his absence will force Pau and Lamar to play heavy minutes, which may have repercussions down the line. Kobe has the same concerns. I was just wondering if you think Kobe is bashing Bynum for stating the obvious, and if you still think elongated Bynum's absence in the regular season is irrelevant?

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | November 01, 2010 at 01:05 PM
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Actually, I think it's beneficial to Andrew and the team in the long run. The early season schedule is a joke and this gives more minutes for Ratliff to get acclimated as well as the other new members of the rotation. LO is in shape and Pau is well rested, so I don't know what you could possibly be worried about. Pau logged in a whopping 34 minutes last night and Lamar wore himself out with an unfathomable 29 minutes. Man, I hope they have enough gas left in their tank for this rough back-to-backer this week!

I didn't hear Kobe say this nor did I read about it and I didn't I hear the context in which he uttered these words, but I'm sure Kobe isn't nearly as concerned about it as you are. In fact, I'm positive.

justa

u really missed the point. i'm waiting for the hazing phase of the "newbies".

LakerTom started the fairweather one, u the newbies and phred and jon k the troll calling. what a great leadership. and u know how it developed. is it really necessary?

on other blogs new posters r welcomed and no one calls them any names. they r happy to have more comments and numbers. on this blog "some posters" feel entitled to have more rights.

@Zaira
"We're like the Millenium Falcon, just way more stylish."

This is, by far, my favorite line from anyone since taking part in this blog.

SIMPLY OUTSTANDING!

Kobe888,

"I didn't hear Kobe say this nor did I read about it and I didn't I hear the context in which he uttered these words, but I'm sure Kobe isn't nearly as concerned about it as you are. In fact, I'm positive."

Kobe's quote:
"That is going to definitely help a lot. When we get [Andrew Bynum] back, that should help out a lot. Even tonight, in a game like tonight, Pau [Gasol] is playing a great deal of minutes. I would like to see him rest a little more."

Edwin Gueco:

YOUR POST VERY SUCCINCT, YOU SIR BELONG IN THE ANALYST HALL OF FAME, I HOPE PHIL IS READING AND LEARNING:

Absolutely agree with you. Every game there will be revolving new heroes, last night it was Pau and in Phoenix it was all LO and against Rockets, Shannon did his thing. This has been our coveted dream of teamwork nirvana where the ball moves around and find the open man to execute an easy point compared to a labored 3 pointers in the past on hit or miss strategy. What I also appreciate is the consistency of defense even when score differential has reached 20 pts, normally in the past Lakers switched to lazy mode and give back leads. Well, Barnes and Blakes have new mojo of keeping up the fire so the up tempo carries the lukewarm approach of the past. PJ is now calling time outs even when the score unreachable, it gives them a little rest for a job well done. How are we going to break the consecutive victories? By taking one game at a time, just keep on winning and soon they will be in that state of Nirvana.

PS. On the negative side, Luke will be back soon maybe as soon as Wednesday, the blog will rock again as the souls of the dead rise up and haunt us because of Luke's 2nd coming. lol!

ouchhhhh - I was one of the first to welcome OCisMambacounty, so I'm sure he understood my comment to him when he won the Friedman Award. If he doesn't have a problem with my comment, why should you? He's a newcomer to the blog so I called him a 'newbie'. Big woo. I've called other newcomers newbies on occasion and no one has felt insulted, because it's not an insulting thing. Do you have a better term? One that you consider non-hazing? Geez ouchhhh - give me a break. You should pick on someone your own size. Or better yet - someone who cares about such things. And by the way, I have never made claim to some sort of 'leadership' of the blog. That's a ridiculous statement. As if anyone has leadership here - other than MM, and even that is more 'stewardship'. Get a grip man! Your long summer off has you confused as to what the real issues on here are. Like when is Luke coming back?

Yes Justa, when I first started on the LAKER blog, I was a newbie, I think I'm an oldbie now, ha, ha. Just like last June, all's well that ends well, ha, ha.

I think as far as Drew is concerned, we''ll see one way or the other. Wow, I just realized how political that phrase was, ha, ha. Wishy and washy. I do hope he does well, can be a GREAT help if healthy! More so than Bosh or Melo, unless he gets hurt again1 Dang it, there I go political again, must be the season, ha, ha.

Kobe is a renegade and he will remain top dog until he retires regardless of the internal and external efforts to supplant him as top dog. Over the years he has learned one thing, let your game do your talking. Chuck said Kobe's day of scoring 30 points a game where over, Kobe said he was hurt, got his knee drained and what did he do? He almost averaged 30 points a game through out the playoffs.

Cool to know that you are an artist. I admire both musicians and artist. I wish I'd stuck with my piano lessons and I can't draw stick men so I'm totally in awe of the ability to create sketches, paintings and drawings from nothing.

Ouchhhhhhhhh, I know she doesn't need my help, but man give Justa a break. She is very cool and funny too, dammit. LOL. She means nothing by calling someone a newbie, except to say they are new to the blog. She is one of the few who welcomes every new poster to the blog. Give the queen a break, she's all good!.

Kobe888,

"I didn't hear Kobe say this nor did I read about it and I didn't I hear the context in which he uttered these words, but I'm sure Kobe isn't nearly as concerned about it as you are. In fact, I'm positive."

Kobe's quote:
"That is going to definitely help a lot. When we get [Andrew Bynum] back, that should help out a lot. Even tonight, in a game like tonight, Pau [Gasol] is playing a great deal of minutes. I would like to see him rest a little more."

Posted by: GREG ODEN | November 01, 2010 at 01:26 PM
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Kobe also said his knee was 100% to shut everyone up and completely downplayed the Lakers-Celtics rivalry during the Finals. All I take from that quote is that it's going to help the Lakers when Bynum returns. Duh. If Kobe said that shortly after last night's game, he probably didn't realize that Pau only played 34 minutes. Whatever.

Ouchhhhh & Justa- It's all good. Although I'm new to posting this season, I've been reading this blog for awhile so I understand how things get heated here. I probably didn't post in the past because 'newbies' would post dumb things just to irritate the real fans or just to increase their post counts so I get it. Hazing or not, I'm down because at the end of the day, I still bleed that purple and gold like everyone else who is reading this.

1,2,3,Ring!

Mama said if I wanted to be the champ I couldn't leave it in the hand of the judges. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg&ob=av3e Posted by: LRob | November 01, 2010 at 12:38 PM
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DOWN GOES 63 FOOTER, DOWN GOES FABULOUS J!!! THE WINNER AND STILL CHAMPION....DJ LROBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!

yellofever and Laker Truth

Al Horford is listed at 6'10", 245 lbs. He averages anywhere between 12-14 ppg and almost 10 rpg. He's a year older than Bynum and he's not that intimidating shot blocker (1.2 bpg last season). He runs alongside Josh Smith, who averages around 8.5 rpg. Throw in Zaza Pachulia and there you have your perennial first or second round exit in the playoffs! There are plenty of 6'9" or 6'10" centers in the NBA who are skilled, but who I would never consider trading Bynum for. Among them are Nene, Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Horford and Emeka Okafor. Oh, and only Okafor and Horford have proven to have relatively healthy careers, although Okafor only played 26 regular season games at the age of 23 and 67 games the following season.

Bynum is NOT Greg Oden. While there is no question that his injuries are a legitimate concern, part of it is also overblown because we're such die-hard Lakers fans.

OCisMambaCounty -

I apologize for not saying this earlier, but congrats on RCOTD!

And as far as I am concerned, I didn't think you were new; just someone who hadn't posted in a while, especially when you consider how many people are on the ROLL CALL.

ouchhhhh -

Isn't LakerTom up in NorCal? I thought there were some other bloggers who were up there too. Also: I never knew you were an artist! I find that to be very interesting. What is your medium?

Hope everyone is having a good Monday!

Ouchhhhh & Justa- It's all good. Although I'm new to posting this season, I've been reading this blog for awhile so I understand how things get heated here. I probably didn't post in the past because 'newbies' would post dumb things just to irritate the real fans or just to increase their post counts so I get it. Hazing or not, I'm down because at the end of the day, I still bleed that purple and gold like everyone else who is reading this. Posted by: OCisMambaCounty | November 01, 2010 at 02:11 PM
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GOD$$#@%$^&&!!!!! What a guy!!! Yes I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!

>>>I agree with Ricky.
>>>
>>>Pau Gasol is Kareem/Magic all-in-one.

Spoken like someone who never EVER saw Magic play.

epic comparison fail.

Epi,

>>>For me, Jackson without Pau is "Don Nelson"

Jackson has 9 rings without Pau.

Pau has 0 rings without Jackson.

You do the math.

Epi,

>>>For me, Jackson without Pau is "Don Nelson"

Jackson has 9 rings without Pau.

Pau has 0 rings without Jackson.

You do the math.

WOW! Vikings waive Randy Moss!

lakerfan, i smell you hubbub approach in praising one before stabbing them on the back. It's rubbish and deceptive. Your style will no longer work because everyone knows your intention in this blog. You have inflamed this blog throughout summer by constantly changing names and getting at people in order to put down this blog in its entirety. As Utz said, you won't understand us because you're ain't us. It is best that you change persona and blog with us in a civil manner. Grow up!

>>>Frodo = Artest - only person willing to give away the ring.

LOL. good one.

>>>Luke = Ent - has good roots, but is slow as molasses, and firmly planted to
>>>the ground.

Also very nice. We'll go with Luke=Treebeard. If you remember from the books, Treebeard helped Merry and Pippin out of a jam. So Luke with his knowledge of the triangle will help Blake and Brown if they struggle during the season.

>>>Aragon = Kobe - the rightful king to the throne.

Wouldn't fight that too hard, but the thing that's clear about the books is that the strongest 3 characters in the books, the ones who contribute most to the defeat of Sauron, are Frodo, Aragorn, and Gandalf. Hard to give one of those roles away to Artest. Sure, he's a key player, definitely one of the fellowship, but I'd find it hard casting him as one of the big 3. Thus if Aragorn = Kobe, then Pau = Frodo.

I was kinda thinking that with his girlish locks, Sasha could be Eowyn. Then we could have a memorable scene in the finals where LeBron/WitchKing comes driving at Sasha and says, "You fool! Don't you know that no man can stand against me?" To which Sasha replies, "I AM NO MAN!", after which Blake/Pippin picks the ball off of LeBron from behind, and kicks ahead to Sasha for a game-winning 3-pointer.

Laker Truth,

>>>- Shannon Brown will be this year's version of Trevor.

Hopefully. So far it's looking that way. He's playing his heart out and shooting well. And he's ALWAYS the first guy down the court for a fast break.

>>- Barnes is a better passer than I thought.

Knew it from his UCLA days. He's a very streaky shooter though. He can have nights like the other night where he hits 3 3's, and other nights where he lays bricks. The good news is that he always hustles, whether his shots are falling or not.

>>>- There are plenty of all-star level forwards in the West, but Lamar just
>>>might make the all star team for the first time as the third Laker, if he
>>>continues his solid play.

I was thinking the same thing last night. If Bynum comes back too early, it might hurt Lamar's stats, and thus his All-Star chances. But if they voted today, Lamar would be a shoe-in.

>>>- The Lakers should sign Eric Dampier for the vet minimum,

Too late, he already signed with another team (Denver? I forget). I did notice that Ratliff hasn't been too impressive.

>>>- Artest looks more comfortable on offense, but he seems to be too
>>>comfortable at times.

What's odd is that he shot very well in the pre-season. He's just been slumping since the start of the season. He'll get his mojo back.

>>>- How long before Blake supplants Fish in the starting lineup, or closes out
>>>fourth quarters over Fish? Perhaps Fish should pull a Luke, and volunteer
>>>to go the the bench. Blake is clearly the best PG on the roster, and
>>>deserves more minutes than Fish.

Ah, but one of the things that's making the bench mob flow so successfully is having Blake. Fish isn't half the passer that Blake is, but if he's playing like last night, he's a good enough shooter to play with the starters.

When Bynum comes back and we have a bench of the killer Bs (Blake, Brown, Barnes) plus Odom, it'll just be unfair to other teams.

Ouchhhh,

There is no such thing as entitlement on veterans and rowdy treatment of the so called newbies. It is a matter of common courtesy andbeing respectful if you are not aware of the characters in the blog. Everybody is welcome here including fans of other teams but you have to be adaptive with the blog culture. You can't change opinions by slashing tirades, direct confrontation and non-negotiable stand. At the end of any discussion, it is best to agree on disagreement and part as friends in the blog.


>>>>Sauron == Stern

VERRY nice.

>>>[ Can you really think of anyone more evil, currently associated with the
>>>NBA? Who else would be able to manipulate the strings of the refs? ]

I cannot. OTOH, I'm not sure Stern is opposed to the Lakers winning a 3-peat. Riley clearly is. Riley wants the utter destruction of the Lakers as his orcs and other minions overrun them.

Stern is more like the publisher.

>>>Aragorn == D-Fish. Can you really think of anyone more noble?

Again, I'd make the case that Aragorn, Frodo, and Gandalf are the three most important forces for good. Thus I'm inclined to assign those roles to Pau, Kobe, and PJ in some manner.

>>>Pau == Legolas. Fearless. No pressure. Heading back to the woods/Spain
>>>when this is all over.

Okay, but I still see Pau as Aragorn, with Lamar & Ron as Legolas & Gimli.

>>>Artest == Eomer

Not bad, but again, I see Artest as more vital to the story, thus one of the Fellowship. Though Eomer did end up a king in the end (king of Rohan).

>>>There is no way that *anyone* on the lakers can be Bombadil. If you go
>>>back and read extraneous material of the LOTR, some have postulated that
>>>Bombadil is one of the ancient gods/angels from the west. Able to resist
>>>Sauron/The One Ring and I don't think anyone is capable of single-handedly
>>>resisting Stern.

Ah, then maybe Stern is Bombadil, one able to resist the power of evil Sauriley.

 
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