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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 107-83 victory over Golden State Warriors

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--The Times' Mike Bresnahan notices the Staples Center crowd and the Lakers themselves performing the wave during L.A.'s 107-83 victory Sunday over the Golden State Warriors.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding credits the Lakers for not becoming complacent.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's David Lassen issued a memo to the Golden State Warriors: "As rules of engagement go, this may be right there with not bringing a knife to a gunfight. Letting the Lakers starters hit full stride in a run-and-gun game? Probably not your best option."

--The San Francisco Chronicle's Rusty Simmons explains how Stephen Curry's absence affected the Warriors in their loss to the Lakers.

--The Daily Breeze's Elliott Teaford argues that very little has slowed down the Lakers.

--The Oakland Tribune's Marcus Thompson II explains how the Lakers overwhelmed the Warriors.

Notebooks

--The Times' Bresnahan lists the things the Lakers are focusing on to prevent boredom.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's Lassen explains how the Lakers' bench still has work to do.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin notices that Lakers center Theo Ratliff has an energy drink bearing his name.

--The Daily Breeze's Teaford explains how Lakers Coach Phil Jackson is motivating his team.

Sidebars

--The Times' Broderick Turner explains how Pau Gasol has carried more of the workload thus far in the Lakers' season.

--The San Francisco Chronicle's Simmons reports that the Warriors haven't offered a contract extension to forward Brandan Wright.

--The Oakland Tribune's Thompson documents the shooting struggles of former Laker Vladimir Radmanovic.

Columns

--The Times' Mark Heisler looks at the difficulty the Lakers face in pacing themselves for a long season.

--The Orange County Register's Ding reports that Lakers owner Jerry Buss will support revenue sharing. 

--ESPN Los Angeles' McMenamin wonders why Earl Lloyd hasn't garnered more attention for breaking the NBA color barrier nearly 60 years ago.

--Fox Sports' Billy Witz argues that the Lakers already look like the best team in the Western Conference.

Blogs

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky breaks down the Lakers' victory over Golden State. Andy and Brian Kamenetzky also feature post-game video.

--NBA.com's Sekou Smith details Kobe Bryant's growing relationship with Gasol.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell breaks down the team's victory.

--Lakers Nation's Daniel Buerge recaps the Lakers' victory.

--Silver Screen and Roll's DexterFishmore enjoys the Lakers' blowout.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Phillip Barnett credits Lakers forward Lamar Odom for setting the tone early.

Other links

--ESPN.com's Marc Stein remains impressed enough with the Lakers play to keep them at No. 1

--Golden State of Mind's Fantasy Junkie breaks down the Warriors' loss.

Tweet of the Day: "Artest can't resist. He just stood up from his seat on the bench as the Wave swung around to his side of the arena." -- KevinDing (Orange County Register's Lakers beat writer Kevin Ding)

Reader Comment of the Day:"I'm loving the maturity this Lakers team is showing so early in the season. They understand that their goals right now are to iron out all the bugs and chemistry issues before worrying about being tested by the bigger teams in the Western Conference" -- OCisMambaCounty

-- Mark Medina
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Photo: Kobe Bryant, left, makes a pass in front of Golden State guard Monta Ellis during the Lakers' 107-83 victory Sunday at Staples Center. Credit: Jayne Oncea / US Presswire

 
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*sniff* *sniff*


You like me.


You really like me.

OCisMambaCounty - representin' down south! Congrats on the Friedman Award. Nicely said.

And, representin' Hard Core Punk OC style (be into hard core, or cover ears) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQNTtZ3qXs

OCisMambaCounty - congrats on the coveted Friedman Award. It's nice to see a newbie come on so strong so early - hopefully our bench will continue take your lead!

Some folks like close games. I happen to be in the camp that enjoys a good ol' fashioned ass kicking, a la last night. Thanks, Lake Show. I appreciate that.

Last night was a perfect example of this team's "deepness." The bench wasn't firing on all cylinders, and it didn't matter. Artest was off his game, and it didn't matter. Our starting center is still missing, and it didn't matter.

I like that, and I like it a lot.

Go Lake Show!

Jamie Sweet,


THE GARBAGE MACHINE


Finally Sasha getting some burn last night, like what I said to you before it will be mostly garbage time. Atleast the machine is till working, the garbage machine that is.

I just got back from class, and as I was reading where I left off, I saw this, and it definitely needs a repost:

yes, defense win championships, but for 82 games it is exciting to see the team scoring 110 points a game. especially because it is not a 7" offense. so 110 means efficiency, good shooting percentage, good rebounding and assists. what a championship team should do. NO MERCY

Posted by: ouchhhhhhhh | November 01, 2010 at 09:59


ouchhhhhh -

If there was anything that the Lakers should put up in the locker room, it's this. In some huge font, with the words "NO MERCY" in bold and underlined. Heck, make sure a copy is in every player's locker too. It's never too early to send a message to every other team in the NBA, we need to put the league on notice that this is OUR championship to defend. I hope the players take your message to heart, because continuing to appear in finals is not a guaranteed proposition.

The Outlaw - I hate to admit it out loud, but I'm with you. I have enough stress in my life; I want my BB to be stress free and awesomely beautiful. Though as long as we win the close games, I have no trouble... except for what's left of my fingernails.

The current Season: THE POWER OF PAU

Pau Gasol: Aragorn
Kobe: Frodo
Odom: Gandalf
Artest: Troll
PJ: Gollum

It seems LRob and mamba24 have officially made it "Mama" day, so in keeping with that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbiYgF6szw

And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EFUKgCPVuM

*sniff* *sniff* You like me. You really like me. Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 01, 2010 at 10:12 AM
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Stop that! Stop that NOW!! Of course they like you. You are THE FABULOUS JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN. Now act accordingly!!!!! Carry On!

To Solozabal:

Yo are wrong.

Pau: Luke Skylwalker
Kobe: C3pO
Odom: Princess Leia
Artest: Chewacca
PJ: Yoda

63 Footer: I think I actually lose weight during the close games. Or, wait... maybe that's not true, because I tend to drink about four times as many beers.

Go Lake Show!

OCisMAMBACOUNTY = RCOTD = OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!! KUDOS!!!

Mama day? I got no probs with that....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtJYgd2OXI

If there was anything that the Lakers should put up in the locker room, it's this. In some huge font, with the words "NO MERCY" in bold and underlined. Heck, make sure a copy is in every player's locker too. It's never too early to send a message to every other team in the NBA, we need to put the league on notice that this is OUR championship to defend. I hope the players take your message to heart, because continuing to appear in finals is not a guaranteed proposition. Posted by: Caliphilosopher | November 01, 2010 at 10:18 AM
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I'm just gonna say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!

The Outlaw - "I think I actually lose weight during the close games. Or, wait... maybe that's not true, because I tend to drink about four times as many beers."

But you have to add in the weight loss due to shredded vocal cords.

Mama day? I got no probs with that....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtJYgd2OXI Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 01, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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OK, it's a tie between you and LRob!

justanothermambafan - I had a feeling you might go there, so I have to come back with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ack-HcxV3-k

Here's an interesting juxtaposition:

Lamar is playing at his best because he played during the summer and thus came into camp in good shape and good practice.

Pau is playing at his best because he took the summer off and thus gave his body a rest for once.

Whatever works.

Lakers won't face a real challenge until November 7 vs Portland. By then they should be 6-0.

They don't face any of the Leastern contenders until Miami on Christmas. I can't see this team having more than 2 or 3 losses by then. I only see 4 hard games before Christmas - Portland, Chicago twice, and Houston. Maybe Denver. Maybe Phoenix... but not likely.

GOD#@%$%^%#@@#@!!! Now we have a 3 way tie!!! 63 Footer, LRob and Fabulous J. OK, somebody is going to have to untie this ISH!!!!

Side effect of the schedule...

The Lakers should have Bynum back and Kobe up to full strength by the time they play the games vs Miami and Boston and San Antonio and Orlando and Dallas and Oklahoma City and Atlanta.

They'll also probably get some seasoning for the rookies. They still show flashes of good play but also make lots of rookie mistakes. By Christmas, they should settle down a bit.

63 Footer - I like mine better. :)


Also - don't forget - get your profile in ASAP. The blog is waiting for mine, but as you know you need to show me yours before I show you mine.... Hurry hurry! Time's awasting!

Pau Gasol become the Team Leader since 2008.

"--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding credits the Lakers for not becoming complacent."

This is really the key to the entire season. In the past, the Lakers have given up big leads and as a result, when a team is down against the Lakers, their opponents coaches remind the team that they will get back into the game and as a result, leads are lost along with a game that should've been one. It's all about "seeding" for the playoffs. Home court is everything and anyone who says it isn't, never had it. Kind of like money, do you know what I mean?

We have non-contenders (on paper) coming up on the schedule and as "OC..." mentioned in his award winning quote: "...their goals right now are to iron out all the bugs and chemistry issues before worrying about being tested by the bigger teams in the Western Conference."

These guys must take this time to perfect their game and chemistry because it is imperative to demoralize every team that comes up against them just as PJ's Bulls use to do in the past. We don't need to set records; just a tone. A tone of LAKER DEVASTATION! We need that KILLER INSTINCT.

It's time for these nicknames to mean something rather than just sounding "cool." Black Mamba, Tru Warier, The Renegades. Lets make it count... Lets get to The Finals and bring another one back to L.A. BABY!!!!!

GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!!!!!!

justanothermambafan - I have but one thing to say to you about that, that you is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcY5SQECqks

Thanks Justa & 63 Footer. Quick question though; is the Friedman Award whenever MM picks a reader comment of the day?

@mamba24. thanks for the props but I kind of feel like Matt Barnes on this one... meaning I'm not looking for praise or recognition right now until it is earned all season long. I've always seen you use RCOTD alot in your posts and I just figured it out now. thanks!

justa

"newbie" sounds pretty condescending.

it's also not very welcoming.

if someone makes a sound comment, even if it is the first comment on this blog does not sound/write/think like a newbie neither to BB neither to lakers. what do u think??????????

@mamba24. thanks for the props but I kind of feel like Matt Barnes on this one... meaning I'm not looking for praise or recognition right now until it is earned all season long. I've always seen you use RCOTD alot in your posts and I just figured it out now. thanks! Posted by: OCisMambaCounty | November 01, 2010 at 10:44 AM
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Is this guy a LakerHolic or what? You gotta love it!!! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!

OCisMambaCounty - Rick Friedman (hope he's doin' all better) won the Reader Comment of the Day so often, it just became the Friedman Award in his honor.

justanothermambafan - I have but one thing to say to you about that, that you is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcY5SQECqks Posted by: 63 Footer | November 01, 2010 at 10:43 AM
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Fabulous J. better come up with something in a hurry folks or I think we got our winner here!

mamba24 - no winners and losers here, we're just scrimmaging hard during practice.

Pau Gasol is playing to much.

It's time for these nicknames to mean something rather than just sounding "cool." Black Mamba, Tru Warier, The Renegades. Lets make it count... Lets get to The Finals and bring another one back to L.A. BABY!!!!!GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!!!!!!Posted by: frmkt | November 01, 2010 at 10:43 AM
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HELL YEAH!!! LET'S RIDE!!!! IN BUSS WE TRUST!!!!!!!

Well, today is a little blue despite the easy victory of the Lakers. Mau Lucas just passed away and it seemed it was just the recent past when he hoisted the O'Brien trophy.

OCis MambaCounty is the newest RCOTD.

Justa is feeling blue, Ouchhh is also feeling blue from Gassy to RonRon/Fish; Ricky is also feeling blue in Barcelona thinking on endless love of Pau.

I dedicated this song for all of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Y7TJ8Im5M&NR=1&feature=fvwp

We have the new Showtime 2.0:

Pau = Kareem/Magic
Kobe= Byron Scott
Odom = A.C. Green
Bynum= Rambis
Artest = Cooper

I agree with Ricky.

Pau Gasol is Kareem/Magic all-in-one.

Lakers have to become NATURAL BORN KILLERS and annihilate their opponents!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGmLyMDDp14

Ouchhhhh

I'm a barnes fan too but he's not starter material and never will be.. His biggest asset is energy off the bench and he just aint built to handle the big 3s in the league consistently.. Now ron ronhe like a dodge ram truck like a rock... Just be patient and his jumpers will start fallin when we need them.. its not like he's forcin em up.. Just missin open looks.. The man works too hard defensively and is still too good a shooter to not let him shoot...Sometimes lifes like a double edged sword so we must live or die by ron ron

Peace out

frmkt - and I hope it keeps up. Natural Born Killers, Killer Instinct. When a team plays the Lakers they should remember:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Va-CqCVJM

>>>Pau Gasol: Aragorn
>>>Kobe: Frodo
>>>Odom: Gandalf
>>>Artest: Troll
>>>PJ: Gollum

WTF?

Okay, I can buy into Aragorn & Frodo. After all, it was really FRODO's actions that were the most important in defeating Sauron (presumably played by either Pat Riley or Doc Rivers in this case).

Odom Gandalf? I don't buy it.

Artest = troll??? Not hardly.

Is your knowledge of LotR so limited that you run out of characters after Frodo, Gandalf, and Aragorn???

Try Artest = Gimli and Odom = Legolas.

Now you're talking. The taller and shorter (but bigger than hobbit-sized) warriors.

Phil Jackson = Gandalf - it takes some SERIOUS magic to win 11 rings (let alone 12)

And if Kobe = Frodo, then clearly Derek Fisher = Samwise Gamgee

and while we're at it, I'd say Blake & Brown = Merry and Pippin

Most seasons, Bynum = Boromir - the member of the fellowship who goes down well before the final resolution of the story. But this year, he's Faramir, Boromir's nobler brother who doesn't appear early in the story, but finishes strong.

Kareem = Elrond and Jeannie = Galadriel, who help the fellowship along their way at various points in the story.

Barnes, Caracter, Ebanks, Ratliff, Vujacic, and Walton can be any minor characters you choose that help the story along - Tom Bombadil, Theoden, Theodred, Barliman Butterbur, Treebeard, whatever.

Depending on who you think is the main opponent in the East (Mordor was to the east of Gondor/The Shire/etc, ironically), then Sauron is probably Doc Rivers or Pat Riley. Or you could merge the whole East into the evil side...

Pat Riley = Sauron.

The Witch King = LeBron

The other Nazgul = Wade, Bosh, Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Shaq, Doc Rivers, and Dwight Howard

And of course, Sam Cassell = Gollum (because he looks like Gollum)

frmkt - and I hope it keeps up. Natural Born Killers, Killer Instinct. When a team plays the Lakers they should remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Va-CqCVJM Posted by: 63 Footer | November 01, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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Uh,Oh it's gone take some fast footwork by Justanothermambafan to get out of this jam!!! I think it's almost time to declare a winner.

And of course, Sam Cassell = Gollum (because he looks like Gollum) Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | November 01, 2010 at 11:03 AM
SWEET JESUS!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

There are many reasons why Pau is so good on this squad but I believe the main one is that he's at his very, very best when he's at the 4; anything else is an awesome compromise.

frmkt - and I hope it keeps up. Natural Born Killers, Killer Instinct. When a team plays the Lakers they should remember:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Va-CqCVJM

Posted by: 63 Footer | November 01, 2010 at 11:00 AM

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LOL! LOL!!

LongTimeLakerFan - okay, my love for the books from childhood LOTR's showin' up here, but: that was frickin' outrageous. Gotta go with all your calls. The Nazgul killed me! And DFish as Sam. Too much time on our hands.

My son said it best when he told me, "Dad, now this is a team, a bench knowing what to do!" Couldn't have siad it any better. Go Lakers!

I guess I could have spelled " said" better though, ha, ha.

D(erek)J(eter) - now there's a good son!

Glad to see the Lakers are a cohesive unit to start the season out. We keep playing like this and we'll have some huge consecutive win streaks this year.

One thing I don't like is Matt Barnes body language on the bench when Kobe shoots the ball. Everytime Kobe shoots a "non-wide open shot" his body language is so loud. Kobe brought him here to win so try to be a team supporter.

After the Heat's defeat in this year's CHRISTMAS DAY MASSACRE in L.A., LBJ will turn to D Wayde and sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c

Ha!

Thanks you sir! He was born a Laker fanatic, with a little help from me of course, ha, ha! He's 28 now and we talk Lakers before, during and after almost every game.

O.K., LTLF. You are right.

PJ is Gollum for me b/c his bad words against Pau "he is on vacation" and others. For me, Jackson without Pau is "Don Nelson". Maybe he want to motivate Pau, but Pau disagree with this tactics.

With this team, I am thinking that Kobe will get alot of rest this season, which will be a big help come Playoffs!

I'm really liking what I see in Blake, Barnes and Brownie! Can't imagine when Drew is ready! We should be terrific, well, we are terrific!

I love Ron, but someone on the coaching staff needs to point out that he is not a long range marksman. He is much better in the post and needs to use his bulk to do most of the work for him.

Pau and Kobe are looking great. We need Socks back quick so Pau can reduce his tick.

Four an zero here we come!

D(erek)J(eter) - that's totally cool! You raised 'im right.

frmkt - Okay, Lebron singing like ABBA may even be funnier than Sam Cassell as Gollum. It's a tossup.

@63... I was picturing LBJ the whole time in that video and cracking up! Time for me to get back to work...I think!

@63 footer

here's my fav punk band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjQj_8ytE9w&p=E002BE3CB3C77D83&playnext=1&index=6

and, congrats on the Friedman award.

Who would trade Andrew Bynum straight up for this guy? Not me.

http://www.hoopsnotes.com/teams/atlanta/horford-agrees-to-60-million-contract/

mclyne - "someone on the coaching staff needs to point out that he is not a long range marksman."

Hey, he wasn't making his layups last night!

But they were open looks out there, and he sorta had to take them. I think he will regain his touch, and then: watch out. They mostly came in the flow yesterday, but there were times I could've seen him take a dribble or two and get a little closer before the shot though.

mclyne - you know, I've heard Lagwagon but never listened that closely. Dang you! Dang you to Helsinki! Now I have ANOTHER band I need to hear.

Friedman Award = OCisMambaCounty.

@63 footer

"Hey, he wasn't making his layups last night!"

True, but I would rather watch him miss highly contested shots in the paint, then watch him brick wide open jumpers from behind the line- at least he might get trips to the free throw line. I agree with him taking more jumpers inside the arc.

LTLF,

Frodo = Artest - only person willing to give away the ring.

Gandalf the Grey = Phil Jackson
Gandalf the White = Tex Winters

Luke = Ent - has good roots, but is slow as molasses, and firmly planted to the ground.

Aragon = Kobe - the rightful king to the throne.

Kobe888,

So do you still think Luke is better than Barnes? :}

Kobe888,

Kobe stated his concerns (as did I) about Gasol playing too many minutes because of Bynum's absence. Is Kobe a Bynum basher too?

I'll work later on today or tomorrow or...

"He was drafted 10th overall by the Los Angeles Lakers in 2005...Amidst the 2007–08 season, he suffered an injury on his left kneecap and eventually missed the rest of the season and all of the playoffs. He made a successful return at the beginning of the 2008–09 season. In January 2009, however, he suffered another injury, this time to his right knee. He was able to come back before the playoffs started and was part of the Lakers squad that won the 2009 NBA championship. In the 2010 post-season, Bynum played in every single playoff game with a torn meniscus and strained Achilles tendon...On October 30, 2008, he agreed to sign a 4 year, $58 million contract with the Lakers.

What will happen next? His legs just might be shot but just like everyone else here, I hope he can keep it together because this team is not complete without him. We can get by without Luke & Sasha; it's a different team and chances without "Drew."

- Shannon Brown will be this year's version of Trevor.

- Barnes is a better passer than I thought.

- There are plenty of all-star level forwards in the West, but Lamar just might make the all star team for the first time as the third Laker, if he continues his solid play.

- The Lakers should sign Eric Dampier for the vet minimum, to reduce Pau and Lamar's minutes until Bynum returns. Dampier can easily provide 10-15 minutes of solid play off the bench. He would also come in handy against Boston and Orlando, should the Lakers meet them in the finals.

- Artest looks more comfortable on offense, but he seems to be too comfortable at times.

- How long before Blake supplants Fish in the starting lineup, or closes out fourth quarters over Fish? Perhaps Fish should pull a Luke, and volunteer to go the the bench. Blake is clearly the best PG on the roster, and deserves more minutes than Fish.

@63 Footer

Start with Lagwagon's "Hoss" album- I think the whole thing is on youtube right now. No, I haven't listened to Helsinki- I'll check em out.


Kobemvp888

Horford is one the league youngest and best centers.. An up and comer with no major history of injuries.. He's also physical and great rebounder and excellent post defender and shotblocker.. Also underdeveloped offensive moves but runs well and hustles.

Now would I take him over drew? That's a tough one.. But if I'm not a gamblin man I might play it safe give up some upside and go with the more consistent producer

@LAKER TRUTH

I agree with your takes on th LOTR designations. I was a huge Tolkein fan in high school and college and was so stoked when Peter Jackson brought some of those chartacters to the big screen.

mclyne - will check out "Hoss." I was joking about Helsinki, yes?

Yello and Kobe888,

I think most GMs would take Horford over Bynum in a heartbeat, mainly because of Bynum's health issues. It's almost a no-brainer.

Lakertruth

U really think the candyman can keep this up? Now u talkin allstar already??!! Dude DUDE!! Its been 3 games eventually the sugar will wear off.

And so much for bynums allstar campaign.. Another year passed another year missed. Oh well.

@63 Footer

I hope you weren't referring to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGJmqWnNNdk

LOL!

yellofever,

The West is stacked with all-star caliber forwards, and making the all-star team will be a long shot for Lamar, but it is not out of the question.

mclyne - works for me, or as the Finnish kids say: "HH:n musiikki on hyvää ja siinä on sanomaa!"

LAKER TRUTH

r u back to create trouble and raise hell when the rest of the blog is in such a harmony?

POSER. :-)

Good evening.

First thought for Rick F.: Man you keep rockin alright?
We send you our daily recovering power.
Hugs and kiss, dear.
Keep getting better.

From a pure bliss of lazy mood, as today in Italy is religious holiday (one of the few times I'm actually happy we are in Pope Land... cos Italy truly is that, sadly: it's evident we did not evolve from Dante Alighieri's times. *sigh*... and before you ask, yep I believe and I am catholic, just not a blind one), it comes as regular pleasure to come and cheer the Fam after a good game that risked to put me to sleep after barely 15 minutes.

Which is a good thing after all.
I still hit by the way our team is developing : I keep wondering when ceiling will crack, because I get suspicious at too smooth tables.
Of course if it won't crack... It's not like I will cry. But I still favor a more adversarial kind of journey.

But all that being noticed and piling on the positive side, I try also to remind myself that so far we met NO ONE to really make us shake not even a bit, which explains fairly well these first games and our overall look on court.

We are doing all the right things as MM noted, and all in the right way.
This is clear.
The rest is circumstantial.

I noticed there is a campfire of Pau ultras today ... it's funny how these guys put a bad name on European basketball lovers. I am one, and I would never try to claim anything European can compete with anything NBA.
Seriously... Pau himself would laugh at you and your claims guys. But if you wanna keep state that all, that the greatest NBA players disappear in front of Catalunia power, go on: freedom of speech I suppose.
Don't expect much consideration over here, but go on.
Variety is good, but gotta be measured up with reality you know: and I say this being myself a great Pau lover, but these kind of comments are clearly falling under the WUI (Writing Under the Influence) category.

But no one can deny these Spanish Ultras are amusing backin one another like Three Musketeers.

Fancy stuff.

Tomorrow I might follow the line and claim that if Lakers acquire Danilo Gallinari (my dear homie) and let him taste a bit of a lost first year in it, he will become greater than MJ.
Then I will ask a couple of my Italian friends to come in and keep rewriting what I do to enforce my point.

If we wanna get into comedy, let's at least be variate in that as well.

While we are on Pau's subject, and after congratulating OcisMamba for his RCOTD, I read from one of the links above that Pau and Kobe relationship is getting "better".
Erm... unaccurate to say the least.
Pau and Kobe while both in good form have always been a great combination and a total mutual understanding on the floor.
If by "getting better" they mean Kobe is now letting Pau shoot more, I'm up with hobbitmage: it's all temporary, relative, and mostly strategically oriented.
Pau is an excellent player, the best PF of the league, and has a hand that many wish to possess and understand.
He can score a lot.
He can do all he likes to.
But Pau has also a tendency to shake in the FT line that tells how in some way he's not fitting for clutch/intense scoring moments.
That will never let him substitute Kobe's role.
Although he will be happily more involved in touches and hopefully keep being this kind of scorer all season long.
He sure can.
But clutches and "go in or die" kind of baskets aren't his bread.
Before some of the "Gassy" notes come (how I hate that disrespectful nickname), to be fair beside Derek NOBODY has that skill and I don't mean in the Lakers Land only.
In the NBA, clutch players as these two are maybe a 3, 4 more.
We have 33% of clutchers in SERIOUS moments (I'm talkin playoffs) in the whole league. I'd say we're in a pretty pretty pretty position, right?

Anyway...

Kobe doesn't need now to force things: he's pacing to get his full display back and he logically relates to his lieutenant, the one who's nearer to him as skill set to cover the still open spots while he gets back his full power.
I don't see it as a getting better step.
Pau and Kobe speak the same bball language and in fact both always are openly admiring the other.
Wasn't Kobe saying he would never trade Pau for no one of the "Big 3" or whomever else just a couple weeks ago?
EXACTLY.

It'd be nice if people would stop to sewer and drill for bad seeds in our beautiful and very luminous garden.
Thanx ;)

I also wanna say that I really was envious of 63 Footer position yesterday at Staples ;) Can't wait to journey there next year.

About the Bench I also agree with this:

"Barnes & Blake are good additions but RonRon and Fish are much better. They are clutch players. Well, we should all be happy that our players are complimenting each other, sometimes the 2nd unit helps the starters and sometime it is the other way around. Here is what I have observed, Caracter + Ratliff with the 2nd unit are not that effective because there is no offense and these two are still adjusting with the triangle. However, if you mixed the 2nd w/ first like Shannon, Blake, Barnes, LO and Gasol it produces great results. Or go with Kobe, Artest, Ratliff, Caracter and Shannon/Sasha there is also a great outcome. Pure renegades produce a stalled offense, they're too shy to be gunners.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | November 01, 2010 at 09:48 AM"

But what really makes me feel fine is that these guys seem to be genuinely committed to do whatever it takes to win.

They are smart and committed players and they seem to understand the greater scheme they're effective part of.

Last year lost bench mob was so self-centered they couldn't play as a part of a team anymore.
They also were of a global inferior skill set.

We have so much to operate with this year, but still a long journey.

I still see uneasy to have longer than 13 consecutive games streak to be honest.
But whatever comes, it's really a step that has to be evaluated and considered
for how nearby it takes us to our best possible play.

We can really use so many options this year.

In fact, I see Kobe being completely used and efficacious just when the rest will be set up and timing well.

Imagine: teams will think they're approaching us, just to discover we can inject our turbo-booster that no one else has.

We're like the Millenium Falcon, just way more stylish.

Songs for today are coming from my British music lover heart part.

And all songs are dedicated to what Lakers can claim to do, afford and obtain.

(LRob... I couldn't open your Renegade link... that's why I discovered later you beat me with Styx ;) but yeah, Great Minds Think Alike of course ;))

Let's start with Stone Roses, "I Wanna Be Adored" (our inmost essential skill):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suwIhdHfHFA

The Verve, "History" (what we're made for) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtNDbEKh_nw

And let's close with my dear Coldplay, "Speed Of Sound" (just what we can reach ;)):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNftO3-_sxQ

Think it's all.

Tomorrow I will probably not have time to write a post because gotta go watch Sting in Milan BUT I'll be in game chat after no worries ;)... actually day after I have to catch Prince... okay if I can make iPhone work inside Arena, I might come in and write a cheer (but no songs links) still on both days ;)

LLL Fam ;)

Z. :)

Z - with the ever-lovely summation of all that is Lakers, and the usual dose of good music from across the waters. Now I have to break out the Verve and give it a listen again. It's been awhile.

Zaira, dearest blog goddess, I couldn't agree with you more about the Lakers "clutch" performers. We all know Kobe loves the pressure of the moment. Artest, too, isn't afraid of the big shot. And Fisher? It's not even an argument. But I would assert that Gasol is becoming more and more accustomed to shining in the "clutch" moment... remember that series-clinching put-back against the Thunder last year?

My, my, my. How I love this team.

Go Lake Show!

LongTimeLakerFan,

you wrote: Okay, I can buy into Aragorn & Frodo. After all, it was really FRODO's actions that were the most important in defeating Sauron (presumably played by either Pat Riley or Doc Rivers in this case).

Odom Gandalf? I don't buy it.

Artest = troll??? Not hardly.

Is your knowledge of LotR so limited that you run out of characters after Frodo, Gandalf, and Aragorn???

Try Artest = Gimli and Odom = Legolas.

Now you're talking. The taller and shorter (but bigger than hobbit-sized) warriors.

Phil Jackson = Gandalf - it takes some SERIOUS magic to win 11 rings (let alone 12)

And if Kobe = Frodo, then clearly Derek Fisher = Samwise Gamgee

and while we're at it, I'd say Blake & Brown = Merry and Pippin

Most seasons, Bynum = Boromir - the member of the fellowship who goes down well before the final resolution of the story. But this year, he's Faramir, Boromir's nobler brother who doesn't appear early in the story, but finishes strong.

Kareem = Elrond and Jeannie = Galadriel, who help the fellowship along their way at various points in the story.

Barnes, Caracter, Ebanks, Ratliff, Vujacic, and Walton can be any minor characters you choose that help the story along - Tom Bombadil, Theoden, Theodred, Barliman Butterbur, Treebeard, whatever.

Depending on who you think is the main opponent in the East (Mordor was to the east of Gondor/The Shire/etc, ironically), then Sauron is probably Doc Rivers or Pat Riley. Or you could merge the whole East into the evil side...

Pat Riley = Sauron.

The Witch King = LeBron

The other Nazgul = Wade, Bosh, Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Shaq, Doc Rivers, and Dwight Howard

And of course, Sam Cassell = Gollum (because he looks like Gollum)

my response:

I see your point, however I think you're slightly off.


Sauron == Stern

[ Can you really think of anyone more evil, currently associated with the
NBA? Who else would be able to manipulate the strings of the refs? ]

Aragorn == D-Fish. Can you really think of anyone more noble?

Pau == Legolas. Fearless. No pressure. Heading back to the woods/Spain
when this is all over.

Artest == Eomer

There is no way that *anyone* on the lakers can be Bombadil. If you go
back and read extraneous material of the LOTR, some have postulated that
Bombadil is one of the ancient gods/angels from the west. Able to resist
Sauron/The One Ring and I don't think anyone is capable of single-handedly
resisting Stern.

LRob,

Did Maurice Lucas also enter broadcasting as a color commentator? I'm not sure whether it was College or in NBA.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | November 01, 2010 at 10:03
-----------------
Edwin - Good question, I'm not sure. I know he was an Asst Coach with Portland for a number of years.


Actually I think the Lakers are more Kobe's team than ever. The team has a fearless we got this attitude from 1 through13. That's Kobe everyday all day. Phil is trying to push Pau's leadership for his own reasons. You kinda never know what Phil is up to but in my IMHO it's all good. We are already looking like a well-oiled machine.

Go Lakers!

to Hobbitmage.

Only 1 word my friend: NO

Ouchhhhhhhhh!

I'm great you're back. Every blog needs an antagonist. You play that role very well. What were you doing over the summer?

Thought some of u might find this amusing. Funny..This from rotoworld from few days ago:

"Kevin Love continued to have his minutes limited by Kurt Rambis on Saturday, but also continued to produce despite that with 14 points on 6-of-14 shooting with 13 rebounds, one assist, and one block."

"For his owners out there, take a moment and picture what he'll do in the event he gets 36 minutes a game, and realize that you're getting great production out of him either way. Yes, you're getting screwed by a Phil Jackson wannabe who wants to bench his best player, but things could be worse"

Ouchhhhh I meant I'm glad you're back!

OC in MambaCounty - congrats on the RCOTD!


Now we have a 3 way tie!!! 63 Footer, LRob and Fabulous J. OK, somebody is going to have to untie this ISH!!!!
Posted by: mamba24 | November 01, 2010 at 10:37 AM
-----------------------
Mamba - I told Mama I was in a battle and needed help. We talked about Waylon, Phil and Elton...but Mama said if I wanted to be the champ I couldn't leave it in the hand of the judges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg&ob=av3e

Reading through the last post's comments... it's pretty obvious that Ricky and Epi are already breaking into the good stuff early in the season. Hey, if we ever get a chance to watch a game together, make sure to bring that stuff with you!

Go Lake Show!

I'm losing track, but for what it's worth:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49H0IfoILwQ


Phil is trying to push Pau's leadership for his own reasons.
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | November 01, 2010 at 12:30 PM

i totally agree but it is a long story and i will write it some other day.

the fanny part is that Gassy does not realize in his naivety that PJ is playing him. and not only PJ, but also BSPN and especially the local press, the one and only Los Angeles Times (with ownership from Chicago - go figure). and last but not least, by MM who is the bigest homer.

and for all of the above, looks like Gassy has diplomatic imunity as a foreigner, so …

ouchhhhhh - you said ""newbie" sounds pretty condescending.

it's also not very welcoming.

if someone makes a sound comment, even if it is the first comment on this blog does not sound/write/think like a newbie neither to BB neither to lakers. what do u think??????????

++++++++++++++++++++++++


My comment about OCisMambaCounty being a "newbie" had nothing to do with his knowledge or fandom. It was strictly referring to the fact that he is new to the blog. I thought you knew me better, ouchhhhh. I'm disappointed in you.


Well, about Kobe's shooting problems, you know, that 28% in those "practice" games, he's currently at 46% in REAL games. How's that for ya Justa!

Kobe888,

So do you still think Luke is better than Barnes? :}

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | November 01, 2010 at 11:30 AM
=====

I never said that Luke was "better" than Barnes. I just pointed out that Phil trusts Luke and I had/have concerns about Barnes because he's so well traveled. I was curious to see what Phil would do with the rotations, but Luke's early season injuries answered that. I am also on record as saying that I don;t believe Luke will make it through the season. I this makes you, a "proud Luke Hater, " happy. From now on, please don't put words in my mouth.
==============================================

Kobe888,

Kobe stated his concerns (as did I) about Gasol playing too many minutes because of Bynum's absence. Is Kobe a Bynum basher too?

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | November 01, 2010 at 11:33 AM
=====

What on God's green earth was this supposed to mean?

Yello and Kobe888,

I think most GMs would take Horford over Bynum in a heartbeat, mainly because of Bynum's health issues. It's almost a no-brainer.

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | November 01, 2010 at 11:47 AM
=====

If that's true, most GMs have no brains. Fortunately, Mitch Kupchak has one.

Zaira,

Absolutely agree with you. Every game there will be revolving new heroes, last night it was Pau and in Phoenix it was all LO and against Rockets, Shannon did his thing. This has been our coveted dream of teamwork nirvana where the ball moves around and find the open man to execute an easy point compared to a labored 3 pointers in the past on hit or miss strategy. What I also appreciate is the consistency of defense even when score differential has reached 20 pts, normally in the past Lakers switched to lazy mode and give back leads. Well, Barnes and Blakes have new mojo of keeping up the fire so the up tempo carries the lukewarm approach of the past. PJ is now calling time outs even when the score unreachable, it gives them a little rest for a job well done. How are we going to break the consecutive victories? By taking one game at a time, just keep on winning and soon they will be in that state of Nirvana.

PS. On the negative side, Luke will be back soon maybe as soon as Wednesday, the blog will rock again as the souls of the dead rise up and haunt us because of Luke's 2nd coming. lol!

Picking our team apart after a 3-0 great start? Well, sometimes, you know it's that Kobe influence on we Laker fans, any way to figure how we can be BEST. We all just have different ideas on what's needed. Bynum? Well, IF he comes back strong then it's great. IF he doesn't then we probably should've gone for Bosh or Melo. Who knows? Guess we''l find out. I do like our bench now and LO's major contribution, keep it up LO!

Another great miracle is also happening, it's already 1pm and MM hasn't introduced a new thread. It is a new day, nothing to analyze on an obvious win. I also miss the several threads per quarter and then the final buzzer thread that summarizes the previous quarters.

 
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