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--The Times' Kate Linthicum, Andrew Blankstein and Sam Allen have the latest on the 2-year-old who fell from a Staples Center luxury suite 30 feet to his death.

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains why Lakers Center Andrew Bynum doesn't feel ready to practice.

--The Times' Broderick Turner details how Shannon Brown's attention to detail has paid off.

--The New York Times' Howard Beck highlights the contention from Billy Hunter, executive director of the National Basketball Players Assn., that he's 99% sure that there will be an NBA lockout.

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr shares reader and Laker reaction regarding the toddler's unfortunate death at Staples Center.

--The Chicago Tribune's K.C. Johnson focuses on Kobe Bryant's relationship with Bulls Coach Tom Thibodeau. Johnson also reports that Chicago forward and former USC player Taj Gibson will likely miss tonight's game against the Lakers because of soreness in his right foot.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Andy Kamenetzky break down the odds of each Laker providing a perfect stat line against Chicago.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky throws caution to the wind regarding Bynum's recovery.

--The Riverside Press Enterprise's David Lassen also provides the Lakers' reaction to the toddler's death.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin and ESPN Chicago's Nick Friedell break down the Lakers-Bulls matchup. Friedell also explains Bryant's history with Thibodeau.

--Bulls.com's Sam Smith dissects Chicago's poor free-throw shooting.

--The Daily Breeze's Elliott Teaford details Bynum's timetable.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell breaks down Pau Gasol's efficiency.

--Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski learns a lot over dinner about Bryant's mentality. A definite must-read.

--Fox Sports' Billy Witz sizes up Ron Artest's chances to play in the NFL.

Tweet of the Day: "Heartfelt prayers go out to the family of the lil man yesterday. It has to be a very difficult time for them..Keep them in your prayers." -- ShannonBrown (Lakers guard Shannon Brown).

Reader Comment of the Day: "Whenever I hear of AB’s projected return I automatically tack on another 30 days. It’s like meeting a friend you know is habitually late. You just leave 30 minutes later to compensate." -- LRob

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers Coach Phil Jackson says his team is too old to mount a serious challenge to the Chicago Bulls' record of 72 wins in a season. Credit: Kyle Terada / U.S. Presswire

 
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AW HELL YEAH!!! RCOTD = LROB = OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!!!!!!! KUDOS!!

LRob: How true is that... lol.

Now what if your habitually-late friend does what my wife does and sets all the clocks 15 minutes ahead, maybe in his case 30 mins. Then he'd be right on time... lol

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J24, mamba: THANK YOU!!!! That article was OUTSTANDING!!!!!

Wojnarowski's article above is a MUST-READ:

“They don’t learn,” Bryant said. “I’m here. I’m not going anywhere. No matter what the injury – unless it’s completely debilitating – I’m going to be the same player I’ve always been. I’ll figure it out. I’ll make some tweaks, some changes, but I’m still coming.”

The other night on NBA TV they had on Bill Russell to congratulate him on the presidential award he will be getting. They asked him if there was any player in the game today he loved and immediately he said Kobe. Now though, I really understand why, Kobe actually took some time to sit down with him and show him some much-deserved respect and love, along with picking his brain. I realize now too that Bill has become somewhat a mentor to Kobe, how great is that. Bill is one of the classiest people on this earth, and to give a Laker advice, wow...

That article gets a 10/10 and is one of the finest articles I've read on Kobe in a long time.

We are very, very lucky to have had Jerry West realize that he was seeing greatness and get him in purple and gold...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

LRob FTW!!! Congrats and LOL!

Fabulous your powers still intact?

J24, mamba: THANK YOU!!!! That article was OUTSTANDING!!!!!Posted by: CyberCosmiX | November 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM
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Don't forget ChicNStu and Steve who started it all! Carry On!

Mamba24 - apparently not at the moment.... I'm stymied....

Mamba24 - apparently not at the moment.... I'm stymied....
Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM
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Dr Fatty's Lakerholic tonic immediately!!! Hurry woman!!!

J24 - you asked about pointers on your first ever fantasy bball team? I too am a first timer this season and... well I hate to brag... (not really)... but I'm currently in first place in my league LOL!!! Will you be on the game chat tonight? We can discuss the hilarity of my situation and share some tips. (Of course, my biggest tip is to get tips from phred and LRob, but hey - whatever works LOL!)

too am a first timer this season and... well I hate to brag... (not really)... but I'm currently in first place in my league LOL!!! Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 23, 2010 at 10:49 AM
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Well there's your answer your thread changing powers have been transformed into Fantasy BBall winning powers. Not a bad exchange if you ask me

LRob with another win! I wonder what it would take to package Luke, Sasha and Drew for you? At least there'd be less infighting on the blog.

63 - so nice of you to make a cameo appearance on the game chat Sunday.... Will we be honored by your presence again tonight?


BTW - by "friend in from Paris" just what exactly did you mean? Cuz there was some speculation.... LOL!

LRob with another win! I wonder what it would take to package Luke, Sasha and Drew for you? At least there'd be less infighting on the blog. Posted by: 63 Footer | November 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM
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LMAO!!!

mamba: "Don't forget ChicNStu and Steve who started it all! Carry On!"

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Absolutely, props to them. I hope it just keeps carrying on like those chain emails, I just carried it forward a bit, now it's up to the next guy... lol

Great article though. I am so glad that people are -finally- starting to see through the smoke and clouds and recognize true greatness, not self-proclaimed kings, those more concerned about their image than game and players who band together but can't lead themselves out of a paper bag...

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The Thibodeau article above is also good stuff:

"You knew his talent," Thibodeau continued. "In high school, when he was playing against pros he looked like he belonged with them. You knew he was going to be special. But I think his drive is what really separates him when you combine that drive and intelligence with his talent. It's the top of the line."

"I thought in Game 7 [of the 2010 NBA Finals], what gets lost on people, [Boston] was badly outrebounded, and he didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but he had a great rebounding night and that probably was the difference of the game."

It takes a defensive coach to recognize that Kobe won them game 7...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

BTW - by "friend in from Paris" just what exactly did you mean? Cuz there was some speculation.... LOL! Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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Don't answer that 63 Footer!

L Rob-aka the Professor of Music, Congrats on the RCOTD well deserved.

justa - I'm not much for watching and doing anything else at the same time (like chewing gum), but I'll try to at least say "hi."

"Friend from Paris" means an actress friend who flew in from Paris. We tend to be kind of elliptical orbit friends, not seeing each other for periods of time and then suddenly she'll call while her plane is touching down, then we hang until whatever she is doing is done (it was a photo-shoot here in town). Its always fun, and I break out the champagne I have stashed away for her (I don't usually drink the bubbly otherwise). I somehow manage to have a number of cometary pals like her.

*repost*

My predictions when AB returns:

1. As soon as he is acclimated, 3-5 games...The Lakers will go on a minimum 10 game winning streak...

2. Both Pau and Lamar will get their minutes cut...

3. LO will lead the 2nd unit, and it will be even more potent...

4. Because of the second unit's stellar play and minutes, Kobe, Fish, and Pau will get more rest and be stronger towards the end of the season and playoffs...

5. AB will go on a tear, and will average 20-15 in a nice span of games...

6. Lakers will get HCA...and will be healthy...so Blitz and 888 are both right and wrong...

7. After the X-Mas game...AB will go to England to watch the Chelsea vs Manchester match, but will be back before 12-28, to play against the Spurs...

8. During the All Star Break...in between the Skills Challenge and the Slam Dunk Contest...AB will broker a peace settlement between the USA and the waring Iraqi factions...

9. While at a Playboy Mansion party, AB meets a prominent cancer researcher and they both find a cure for breast cancer...while examining many breast samples at party...

10. Lakers win #17 and AB get's his third ring, but decides to take Ron
Ron's lead and auctions it off, and proceeds go to Darfur to help the starving and homeless people there...

11. During the playoffs, AB get's hurt in the last game...twisting an ankle...While celebrating the 3 Peat in the locker room...Sasha trips on AB's crutches, twisting an ACL, so now Sasha has to go to Turkey and join Allen Iverson to keep playing pro basketball...

12. AB leaves his wrappings on his ankle, and instead of having it removed, decided instead to go to Thailand to watch the kick boxing finals...Due to this, AB will miss the first 2 months of the 2011-2012 season...

13. The back and forth continues on the LAT Lakers Blog...

Good day Lakernation!!! It's game day!!!

It's been a while, I was never out of it just lurking around. Love the article by Wojnarowski's on Kobe. My favorite line, "If he's making them better, they should be able to survive without him"...Kobe has proven this last season when he did not play some games due to injuries and the Lakers did survive.

This applies to life as well, I want my kids to be better that when I depart they will survive.

GO LAKERS!!!

Thanks MM for the RCOTD and thanks everyone for the back slaps.

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Funny you pick them. I know both sisters Sheila and Wanda and the cousin Jeanette. Sheila and Jeanettte were my next door neighbors. You got good taste ChicNstu!
Posted by: Mamba24 | November 23, 2010 at 09:13 AM
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Mamba - you've been holding out on the info, but now I’m starting to get the picture…. I’ll let the music speak.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XJry6RshJo


@Blitz – Yeah, I think most of us hated to see Trevor go.


@Justa – good selection on Em & Rihanna.


@Cyber - I agree on the Woj article...def a must read. Also the article about Kobe and Thibs relationship. Kobe gave the C's d big props in 08...his way of acknowledging Thibs


It's been a while, I was never out of it just lurking around. Love the article by Wojnarowski's on Kobe. My favorite line, "If he's making them better, they should be able to survive without him"...Kobe has proven this last season when he did not play some games due to injuries and the Lakers did survive. This applies to life as well, I want my kids to be better that when I depart they will survive.
GO LAKERS!!! Posted by: Jeanette | November 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM
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It most certainly does apply to Life and OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!!! Applies to you. So how have you been my sister? Lurking is good but Posting is even better! We missed you Jeanette. Now the Band is truly back together!!!

@63 Footer/Lew - No selections today?

Adrian Wojnarowski- What a fantastic email. I loved the read. It's amazing how kobes demeanor is so different from all the other players currently in the NBA. His respect for his teammates and the game, it's something that all players should strive for. (hint hint certain people out east;))

Can't wait for the game tonight, should be a great match up because the Bulls are a great fast paced team.
Glad to see Devin Ebanks is working on his free throws, I felt bad for him the other night.

GO LAKERS.

By email I clearly mean article. Brain is not functioning yet.. need more coffee.

justa: "I too am a first timer this season and... well I hate to brag... (not really)... but I'm currently in first place in my league LOL!!!"

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Good thing you haven't played anyone yet. I mean you only beat me, the virtual Clippers of our league...

I still think it's a fiendish plot to crush us all, I mean accidentally drafting Stephen Curry?

I'm starting to think Tex Winter secretly plays in our league, covertly going by 'justanothermambafan'...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Congrats LRob on the RCOTD!!!

I just read the Artest thread from yesterday about his interest in the NFL. I loved your Michael Henderson pick, so I'm going to keep it rollin with guys who should have never recorded a note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5LX16zia2k

LRob - you deserve all the credit you get...congrats on the RCOTD...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc0AW67CmA

Mamba - you've been holding out on the info, but now I’m starting to get the picture…. I’ll let the music speak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XJry6RshJoPosted by: LRob | November 23, 2010 at 11:10 AM
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Lol see if you came around more often to Renegade chat that would be old news to you. Hey after all the famous people you had staying across from you can't I at least have a few semi-famous living by me? LOL!

LRob - well, here's hoping that the Lakers feel this way about tonight's game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vE2FmiBHCg

LRob: Should be interesting to see if Kobe comes over and in-game chats with Thibodeau, kinda like he sometimes does to some other coaches during lulls in play. He doesn't strike me like the type of coach that would do that. Wonder too if Kobe will give him props after the game (if the Lakers win that is, lol, as I don't think Kobe would be in the mood to do it with a loss...).

Now, why would the Clipps hire the Bulls castoff, while the Bulls go get a seemingly-good x's and o's, defensive oriented coach like Thibs? Oh, yeah, right... That's what makes them the Clipps...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

So, are we picking up a back-up center or not?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K: By the looks of it, not.

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The Yankee's negotiations with Jeter have started to get ugly, makes me very happy that the Lakers have wrapped up their core group for the next few years. More props due to Mitch...


GO LAKERS!!!!!!

We should pick up Mbenga!!!! Is he playing with anyone?

LRob

You dog! I had a feeling that comment would be in consideration.

Lew

Nice effort at 11:04 AM, but shame on you for allowing Blitz to get you to think that I EVER said that HCA wasn't important OR that I failed to acknowledge that PJ thinks it's important. It is not an either/or thing and I explained that in GREAT detail in one of my posts which I don't have the time to dig up right now. When I do have the time, I'll e-mail it to you. But apparently the master spinmeister even got you .. my favorite Lakers fan on these blogs .. to think that I pooh pooh HCA. You know me MUCH better than that! He's a master craftsman indeed. He repeats distortions to the point that people start believing him. There's nothing I can do about that either. Oh well.


How about Blake Griffin? He's he another Karl Malone but he can handle the ball better..He works on his shooting and he would average 30 and 15.

@ Tom Daniels – funny stuff


@Art – Excellent Horshack impersonation


@Hobbit – Bynum predictions.
1. I have no idea whether he’ll get hurt or will be injury free when he returns.

2. If healthy he’ll post similar #’s to the last two seasons 15pts/8reb/2blks

3. The Lakers will 3pt if their core of Drew along with Kobe, Pau, LO and Ron Ron is healthy .

4. The Lakers will not beat Boston without Bynum. (if Boston is healthy)

I’ve never predicted Bynum to be beast or the next great Laker center. I haven’t seen the desire consistently enough to make me go there or the game consistently enough. I do think he can be an all-star if health permits.


I can see why a lot of people are frustrated with the delay in his return and the perceived kid gloves treatment he’s receiving. I’m a firm believer that you can’t treat each player the same. I believe Drew is one of those guys that need preferential treatment. That's why I had no problem with him delaying surgery or Shaq delaying surgery.

Cyber - you think I've only beaten you? You need to go back and look at my record. Sounds to me like you're just upset that 'little brother' took a beating - from a girl (not Tex).


Muahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!


Just messing with you, my friend. This is actually a lot more fun than I thought it would be. Of course winning helps... thanks to phred for "making" me do it!

It's official: Kobe is "Old School" and LBJ is the - GASP -"New Wave." OMG!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTT_sv8sV0

Very late in posting this...recovering from a stomach virus that TKO'ed Team Banner Holder on Monday at about 1:30 AM. 1 by 1, we all fell like dominoes.


LET US PRAY


Dear Lord, please bless and comfort the family of little Lucas Anthony Tang. Words cannot express the pain and sorrow that we of LA Times Lakers Blog feel at such a tragic loss. We ask You, the God of all comfort, to reveal Yourself as such to the Tang family. Let them grieve. Let them cry. Let them feel the pain, for that is Your will. You are God enough to take upon every tear, every painful cry and every groan of sorrow upon Your mighty hand. And, Lord, after the pain & the tears, replace that pain with love and memories of this little one. May the family be comforted with the blessings of the time they spent with little Lucas. Carry them on, dear Lord, in the shadow of Your Wings.


AMEN!

I’ve never predicted Bynum to be beast or the next great Laker center. I haven’t seen the desire consistently enough to make me go there or the game consistently enough. I do think he can be an all-star if health permits.

Posted by: LRob | November 23, 2010 at 11:39 AM
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I have the same realistic view of Bynum, always have. The sky is certainly the limit for him, but because of his imjuries, he will have to learn how to play "below the rim" more, which will probably keep him from reaching the sky.

It's the naysayers like hobbitmage who probably want him to be something he never will be and that's one of the reasons they are so harsh on him. You and I would just like him to be healthy and execute the role he's been assigned to help this team win championships.

The Wojnarowski article just validates what I've being saying about Kobe for the last 4-5 years. He's a man among boys. Kobe, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, are the last of the old guard. I don't like the attitude of most young players, all the dancing and preening, I'm an old timer and I loved the style of play from the 80's and 90's where rivalries were intense and men played the game, not boys. It was a time when each new superstar raised the level of play of the next group of superstars coming behind them, from Bird and Magic, to Michael and Scottie, to Shaq and Kobe. When Kobe retires, I believe Duncan and Garnett will retire before he does, he'll be the last of a dying breed of men who were true to the basketball legacy of those who came before them.

Can we now have a moment of silence for the basketball greats! Ok as you were! LOL!

Go Kobe!!!

A BIG AMEN utz...thanks for the game prayer...

888 - you know I was kidding...didn't you like the rest of the post...hahaha

Amen Utz.


@63Footer- An actress friend from Paris, who calls you when her plane is arriving? I don't know what elliptical orbit friends mean, but a picture should help! You gotta submit your profile. It's as simple as that. Inquiring minds want to know.


@Justa- It's always nice when you let the computer pick your team. I'm sure you would have blamed Yahoo if you weren't in first place. I see you.....lol!


sup Fan of the Mamba, my brother from "the old school". :-)

(by the way, i really took "that" beyond a compliment:that's why all i could say i'm speechless)

Fan of the Mamba - I see Durant and DWill continuing on the tradition. Whether they will reach the heights remains to be seen, but there are a few of the next generation of youngsters (not the azz, er, class of 2003), that still have the Old School attitude.

LEWSTRS=Nostradamus
Great predictions Lew.

Ditto on Durant and DWill. I'll add KLove's attitude on the court as old school.

Just read the Kobe article on Yahoo. Um...DAMN! And I mean that in a good way!

Justa,

Thanks doll. And you are funny damnit. Wow first place and it's your first time playing it, outstanding work! Well I think I found my mentor and inspiration! I'll stop by the chat later and discuss fantasy bball fun shenanigans.

Thanks for that lovely prayer Utz. Amen.

You're welcome Cyber.

This video made me laugh today, I care to share - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkhTzJ496Q&feature=player_embedded#!

hahaha thanks Laker J...

"attitude of most young players, all the dancing and preening..."
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba

This is a disgusting example of what we "old schoolers" will have to tolerate if we decide to continue watching the sport we love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFoq2PFig7I

LRob, you hit the nail of my ailment - tardy-tis. If I come before on exact time, I was robbed by my precious moment. You're not to worry about the Bulls more on the Korean front which is hitting our nest egg.

The boy who died at Staples would get an autopsy, oh oh am I smelling a litigation against AEG on unsafe luxury boxes. It could be the fault of Luke Walton too!

A BIG AMEN utz...thanks for the game prayer...

888 - you know I was kidding...didn't you like the rest of the post...hahaha

Posted by: LEWSTRS | November 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
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Loved it! I don't acknowledge your posts enough because we've always been in sync.

"There are no "Kobe Lovers", just people who are right."

"This is Kobe's UNIVERSE. Le Bron is playing in it"

"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him."

"Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both."

The Chorus of Kobe Bryant's career: "You're gonna miss me a little when I'm gone"

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."

and last but not least,

"Fisher's defense is called escort service in my country, just accompany" -Ibou

The Heat signed Eric Dampier and waived Jerry Stackhouse. The Lakers are still waiting.....

"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."

Posted by: ouchhhhhhhh

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Very Funny

Sup Ouchhhhh!

You know you're never speechless! LOL! Old school is absolutely a compliment.

63 footer. I can agreed with D-Will, I know KD is being hype as the next great thing and I agree he has skills, but his body of work is too limited right now for me to agree, plus he does that Lebron James dancing thing too. I hate when they dance, this isn't college, it's war! (LOL) I want them to be mean, nasty and surly! serious about the game!

I hated Kevin McHale and Larry Bird and Danny Ainge and Robert Parrish, just like I hate Ray Allen and, Paul 'the drama queen' Pierce and Big Baby Davis but I respect their skills, their tenacity, the heartbreak they inflict on the other team's fans.

Even Dwight Howard has manned up according to his new commercial he ain't your friend. This is war! bruhahahahahahahahaha!

You all know what I said about the 4th quarter and championships. Kobe obviously agrees:

@Kobe: "Let’s practice, have a good time, and if you need me in the last two minutes of the game, I’ll be coming in to pull the [expletive] out.”

Now, THAT's what I'm talking 'bout!

--FEARless

Fan of the Mamba: great comment!! love it, so true !!!! agree about kevin durant though, there is something really special about him.

"KB, let me tell you though, you can't look at Magic and say it hurt the Lakers. He didn't ask for what happened, it devastated not only him, his career, but all Laker fans."

Exactly it devastated all whether his own teammates or Laker (and NBA) fans. Had he made a better decision than to do what he did to contract HIV he would have had a better career. He didn't ask to get HIV anymore than Larry didn't ask that his back would betray him that also robbed him from having a better end to his career. The fact Magic let himself contract it gave so much burden on the Lakers just as O'Neal's failure to have toe surgery earlier gave a huge burden to the Lakers in early part of the 2002-2003 season and was a reason for the slow start since Kobe couldn't do it with a bunch of role players that wasn't designed to give consistent scoring support that O'Neal's absence caused.

I know Magic himself would love to take a time machine and stop himself from getting the HIV. Probably his biggest regret and we have situations where we wish we could have a time machine as well. As I have stated before it wasn't his totally his fault and had the research on HIV today been available in 1991, he would have probably played on (heck Morrison has diabetes but did that force him to retire? Nope though his game will more likely be the reason). That being said had Magic made a better decision not to bang whoever had the STD he would have had a better overall career than being a back up PF in 1996 after a failed attempt to coach.

@frmkt - Oh the freakin' humanity. UGH!! Don't wait until Kobe retires, shoot me now!

@Ouchhhhh

"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him."

"Tim Duncan wins championships. Vince Carters fills the arenas.
Kobe Bryant does both."

Before Mamba24 gets to it, let me just do it! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!

LakerPeace!

Thanks for the update, as some have already pointed out. If Dampier was that great, he'd still be playing in Dallas. The Big 3 are a true case thus far of don't believe the hype, Dampier won't change that!

Gooooo Lakers! We got the big 3,4, and sometimes 5 (Derek Fisher), and the Killer B's!

LRob,

Congrats on the RCOTD. My sentiments, exactly.

LakerJ - first of all, the computer only made a pick or 2 (I think) for me. And it was accidental - regardless of how fortunate for me LOL! And B) you've got it wrong - *I* am watching *you*.

Muahahahahahahaha!!!!!


Before Mamba24 gets to it, let me just do it! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!
Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | November 23, 2010 at 01:02 PM
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WELL DONE FAN OF THE MAMBA, WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!

justa - don't feel bad...the computer picked my whole team...and it wouldn't be so bad if half my stud players are all injured...lol

WELL DONE FAN OF THE MAMBA, WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mamba24 | November 23, 2010 at 02:07 PM

Thank you Master of the Roll Call! I can only hope to follow in your footsteps.


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