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Andrew Bynum wants to return to the court within three weeks

Bynum_300 If it were up to Lakers center Andrew Bynum, he would play in a game in three weeks.

This goal isn't based on any medical assessment from the training staff, but Bynum hopes his participation in Saturday's practice will help him take that next step in returning to the court. If he gets his wish, Bynum would play at some point during the week of Dec. 19-25, which includes a road game at Toronto (Dec. 19) and home games against Milwaukee (Dec. 21) and Miami (Dec. 25).

"That's just me," said Bynum, who went through a pregame workout before the Lakers' game Friday against Utah. "The training staff and other people may see things differently. I don't have a target. I just want to be back within three weeks. That's my personal goal."

The Lakers have never provided specific timetables during Bynum's rehabilitation for his surgically repaired right knee, but Lakers Coach Phil Jackson has shared various estimations, including the possibility Bynum would return by Thanksgiving and Dec. 10 for the Lakers' game at Chicago. Jackson wasn't specific after Saturday's practice at the team's facility in El Segundo, saying, "Everybody would like to see him play tomorrow. But that's not going to happen."

In fact, Jackson withheld assessing how Bynum performed in practice, saying he responded well but wants to see how his body reacts tomorrow. Bynum's practice work included some contact drills involving rebounding, games of one on one against backup center Derrick Caracter, running exercises, shooting free throws and performing various exercises involving the handling of the basketball with Lakers physical therapist Alex McKechnie.

"I feel a little pinch every now and again," said Bynum, who had an MRI exam Tuesday that revealed the off-season surgery has gone well and cleared him to jump and dunk. "That's just what it is and where it's at. So it doesn't get any worse, I'm taking my time, getting both legs strong and my upper body strong and my wind back. I'm not rushing. I'm trying to keep my myself in that mind-set in not wanting to get back too quickly and hurt myself.

"They're not trying to rush it," he added of the Lakers' training staff. "I want to get back more than they want me back at this point because they want me to be healthy."

Bynum said his next goal entails participating in three-on-three drills and improving his conditioning, which he said "will come." Bynum also reported that he hasn't felt any swelling around his knee.

"The progression has been right on time," Bynum said. "Perfect every time. The true test is a game and after you play a game. I'm not at that point yet. Hopefully in three weeks, I'll be there."

--Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina

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Photo: Lakers center Andrew Bynum blocks a shot by Suns center Robin Lopez in the playoffs last spring. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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Excellent!

Cool. I'll believe it when he walks into the tip-off circle and not a minute before. Take your time, be healthy, don't think you're healthy.

I'm glad to hear that he's feeling a lot better. I don't really care if he comes back in 3 weeks, as long as he's fully healthy.

Mark,
I tweeted somewhat snarkily about Bynum and the staff usually being on different pages but I can see now from your full article that the trainers are the ones being cautious. I've always been a Bynum fan but there does come a point of frustration. Has there been any recent news about a backup big for the 15th slot?


POST GAME POST MORTEM !!!
……………………………………………….

I’ve been thinking about how last night’s game against the Jazz ended. The key play and turning point in the game was obviously the turnover by Kobe and Pau with the game tied 96-96 that led to a Jazz fast break and eventual 9-0 finish to seal the win. To me, that one play was a perfect example of Phil Jackson sacrificing a regular season win in the quest to achieve a greater victory – a better Pau Gasol.

With the game on the line, less than 2 minutes to go, and Kobe Bryant s scorching hot but drawing doubles, Phil Jackson calls a play for Pau Gasol to take his man off the dibble and attack the rim. Not only is the call a smart move since Utah is committed to taking the ball out of Kobe’s hands, but it also has the advantage off bolstering Pau Gasol’s confidence and aggressiveness to make him better.

Some players want and even demand the ball in clutch situations. It takes a special type of player to be a team’s closer. You have to be a stone cold killer with unflagging confidence and ice water for blood. Like Kobe Bryant. NOT like Pau Gasol. I mean the coach has called the game winning play for you because the Jazz have committed to doubling Kobe to force the ball out of his hands and, instead of doing what was planned and expected, you suddenly improvise and make a surprise pass to an unexpecting teammate that costs us the game? That’s a guy who couldn’t wait to get rid of the ball.

I remember when MM had written about how different Lakers players visualized themselves playing well and succeeding so as to go out with a confident and positive outlook. The big surprise was Pau Gasol, who instead of visualizing himself playing well in the game, actually visualized himself playing poorly in some weird reverse psychological strategy designed to motivate himself out of fear of failure. To me, Ron Artest is not the psych case on this team. That honor goes to Pau Gasol, still the best power forward in the game today but not the guy who you want to have to trust to close out games.

……………………………….

TOM

repost:

So some people confuse facts with opinions ...

Some people spin things and some people don't.

Let's take a quick walk down memory lane ....

http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-05-23/sports/24646167_1_nba-playoffs-andrew-bynum-pick-and-rolls/2

snippet:
May 23, 2010|By KEVIN DING

The Suns on Sunday also outsmarted Bynum, who knows he must be diligent getting out and showing properly against all of Phoenix's pick-and-rolls. This game, Stoudemire began leaving his pick post early and slipping toward the basket to get a head start on scoring inside.

Bynum wasn't ready for that and didn't do his basic job of protecting the paint. He also wasn't on point with timely help for teammate Pau Gasol, who was trying to deny Stoudemire's short jumper.

"He was hitting those jumpers," Gasol said, "so I'd rather force him into the drive and then expect some kind of help there."

Said Bynum: "I was real late.


hobbit's question: Didn't someone talk about the defensive capability of
Bynum? Wait. I'm sorry. I forgot to quote the cliche: " Bynum's length
is overwhelming. Every GM in the NBA talks about it. " It's so obvious
that his length was bothering Stoudemire.

snippet:
So Bynum got two fouls for hacking Stoudemire in the first 2:41 of the game and went out for Lamar Odom, who proceeded to have his worst game of the series. Bynum wound up playing just 7½ minutes – and two of those minutes were only because Odom fouled out.
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Bynum scored just two points – hitting a shot to start the second quarter. The Lakers still scored 109 points, but just 44 came in the paint – making it a successful night for a Phoenix team that has been told by its coach that anything more than 50 Lakers points in the paint is unacceptable. (The Lakers had 78 in one regular-season game against Phoenix.)

hobbit's opinion: That, my friend, is what a true back to the basket center
can do for you. TWO POINTS in the Western Conference Finals. We are
blessed. BLESSED I TELL YOU!!!

snippet:
There is no reason why Bynum can't do all the basic things if his mind is right. He might not be as explosive as he is at full power, but he certainly can do what the Lakers want.

He knows it.

"I've been able to play well with this same level of pain," Bynum said. "It's not getting worse."

Hobbit's corner: Hold on. This is the same injury that took Tim Duncan out
of the 2000 playoffs per BynumMVP888? Sorry. That should be KobeMVP888.
How stud like of Bynum to play when Duncan couldn't/wouldn't. That man is
fearless. FEARLESS I tell you. No wonder he went to the World Cup
instead of getting surgery. I mean if Duncan couldn't play and Bynum could
then of course his injury was just as serious as Duncan's was. He's a beast.
A veritable franchise player. Such a fierce competitor to score two points.
So manly to overcome and play ... 7.5 minutes. Grrrr.....

FYI, because I'm such a spin meister and my facts are only my shallow
opinions ....

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300525021

the boxscore for the next game shows that the Mighty Bynum had
12 pts / 8 rebounds against the soft PHX suns [ there was a quote from
either Charlotte or Atlanta about the PHX defense recently, but
that might be me spinning things. ] & was a -16 in the +/- column.
For perspective, Gasol was a + 10 & Odom was a -12. But these aren't
facts, according to KobeMVP888. This is just my shallow opinion as
recorded by the NBA.

WHO KNEW that Hobbits were this powerful??? Justanothermambafan,

you may have the power to change threads on the Lakers blog, but I have
the power to change NBA HISTORY.

cue foreboding music ...

Mistress of the blog. Bow down. Bow down before the great & powerful
hobbitmage who forces referees, statisticians, players & media hounds to
print his opinions as facts. Worship me. Become a willing thrall of the uber
powerful hobbitmage who controls all media & games. [ psuedo-whisper:
I can get you tickets to the ASG. ]

cue mad cackle: BWAHAHAHAHAHA .......


But seriously, we all know that stats mean nothing. Nothing. They're just
my opinions after all. For what it's worth, David Stern is not my half-demon
son. We're locked in a power struggle right now. Winner controls the
multi-verse.

repost:

So some people confuse facts with opinions ...

Some people spin things and some people don't.

Let's take a quick walk down memory lane ....

http://articles.ocregister.com/2010-05-23/sports/24646167_1_nba-playoffs-andrew-bynum-pick-and-rolls/2

snippet:
May 23, 2010|By KEVIN DING

The Suns on Sunday also outsmarted Bynum, who knows he must be diligent getting out and showing properly against all of Phoenix's pick-and-rolls. This game, Stoudemire began leaving his pick post early and slipping toward the basket to get a head start on scoring inside.

Bynum wasn't ready for that and didn't do his basic job of protecting the paint. He also wasn't on point with timely help for teammate Pau Gasol, who was trying to deny Stoudemire's short jumper.

"He was hitting those jumpers," Gasol said, "so I'd rather force him into the drive and then expect some kind of help there."

Said Bynum: "I was real late.


hobbit's question: Didn't someone talk about the defensive capability of
Bynum? Wait. I'm sorry. I forgot to quote the cliche: " Bynum's length
is overwhelming. Every GM in the NBA talks about it. " It's so obvious
that his length was bothering Stoudemire.

snippet:
So Bynum got two fouls for hacking Stoudemire in the first 2:41 of the game and went out for Lamar Odom, who proceeded to have his worst game of the series. Bynum wound up playing just 7½ minutes – and two of those minutes were only because Odom fouled out.
Advertisement

Bynum scored just two points – hitting a shot to start the second quarter. The Lakers still scored 109 points, but just 44 came in the paint – making it a successful night for a Phoenix team that has been told by its coach that anything more than 50 Lakers points in the paint is unacceptable. (The Lakers had 78 in one regular-season game against Phoenix.)

hobbit's opinion: That, my friend, is what a true back to the basket center
can do for you. TWO POINTS in the Western Conference Finals. We are
blessed. BLESSED I TELL YOU!!!

snippet:
There is no reason why Bynum can't do all the basic things if his mind is right. He might not be as explosive as he is at full power, but he certainly can do what the Lakers want.

He knows it.

"I've been able to play well with this same level of pain," Bynum said. "It's not getting worse."

Hobbit's corner: Hold on. This is the same injury that took Tim Duncan out
of the 2000 playoffs per BynumMVP888? Sorry. That should be KobeMVP888.
How stud like of Bynum to play when Duncan couldn't/wouldn't. That man is
fearless. FEARLESS I tell you. No wonder he went to the World Cup
instead of getting surgery. I mean if Duncan couldn't play and Bynum could
then of course his injury was just as serious as Duncan's was. He's a beast.
A veritable franchise player. Such a fierce competitor to score two points.
So manly to overcome and play ... 7.5 minutes. Grrrr.....

FYI, because I'm such a spin meister and my facts are only my shallow
opinions ....

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300525021

the boxscore for the next game shows that the Mighty Bynum had
12 pts / 8 rebounds against the soft PHX suns [ there was a quote from
either Charlotte or Atlanta about the PHX defense recently, but
that might be me spinning things. ] & was a -16 in the +/- column.
For perspective, Gasol was a + 10 & Odom was a -12. But these aren't
facts, according to KobeMVP888. This is just my shallow opinion as
recorded by the NBA.

WHO KNEW that Hobbits were this powerful??? Justanothermambafan,

you may have the power to change threads on the Lakers blog, but I have
the power to change NBA HISTORY.

cue foreboding music ...

Mistress of the blog. Bow down. Bow down before the great & powerful
hobbitmage who forces referees, statisticians, players & media hounds to
print his opinions as facts. Worship me. Become a willing thrall of the uber
powerful hobbitmage who controls all media & games. [ psuedo-whisper:
I can get you tickets to the ASG. ]

cue mad cackle: BWAHAHAHAHAHA .......


But seriously, we all know that stats mean nothing. Nothing. They're just
my opinions after all. For what it's worth, David Stern is not my half-demon
son. We're locked in a power struggle right now. Winner controls the
multi-verse.


POST GAME POST MORTEM !!!
……………………………………………….

I’ve been thinking about how last night’s game against the Jazz ended. The key play and turning point in the game was obviously the turnover by Kobe and Pau with the game tied 96-96 that led to a Jazz fast break and eventual 9-0 finish to seal the win. To me, that one play was a perfect example of Phil Jackson sacrificing a regular season win in the quest to achieve a greater victory – a better Pau Gasol.

With the game on the line, less than 2 minutes to go, and Kobe Bryant s scorching hot but drawing doubles, Phil Jackson calls a play for Pau Gasol to take his man off the dibble and attack the rim. Not only is the call a smart move since Utah is committed to taking the ball out of Kobe’s hands, but it also has the advantage off bolstering Pau Gasol’s confidence and aggressiveness to make him better.

Some players want and even demand the ball in clutch situations. It takes a special type of player to be a team’s closer. You have to be a stone cold killer with unflagging confidence and ice water for blood. Like Kobe Bryant. NOT like Pau Gasol. I mean the coach has called the game winning play for you because the Jazz have committed to doubling Kobe to force the ball out of his hands and, instead of doing what was planned and expected, you suddenly improvise and make a surprise pass to an unexpecting teammate that costs us the game? That’s a guy who couldn’t wait to get rid of the ball.

I remember when MM had written about how different Lakers players visualized themselves playing well and succeeding so as to go out with a confident and positive outlook. The big surprise was Pau Gasol, who instead of visualizing himself playing well in the game, actually visualized himself playing poorly in some weird reverse psychological strategy designed to motivate himself out of fear of failure. To me, Ron Artest is not the psych case on this team. That honor goes to Pau Gasol, still the best power forward in the game today but not the guy who you want to have to trust to close out games.

……………………………….

TOM

dave m - Mike Bresnahan reported in today's sports section that the Lakers aren't expecting to sign a backup center in this item here. http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-fyi-20101127,0,4374902.story

Brez outlines the main reason in the second graf: "The situation could change, but they've currently decided against adding a veteran big man in part because it would cost about $35,000 a week in non-guaranteed salary and another $35,000 in luxury taxes per week."

hobbit - OMG you are on a ROLL today! Hilarious stuff!! Maybe we should team up - with our powers in synch, who knows what damage we could do LOL!!! Besides, I want to go to the ASG in LA and since MM won't take me... well... let's just say I'm considering switching allegiances. But - you have to promise to be good. And there will be no bowing down. Equal partners or nothing. (And no thanks - I'll pass on the popcorn.)

Laker Tom - You have an excellent memory. LO also subscribed to Pau's psychology. Now that you bring it up, interesting to see if that fear of failure has anything to do with LO's strong play this year. Think about it - He had a disappointing playoff run, the team was floating around the idea to Heisler that they'd dump his salary and Phil predicted before training camp that LO would decondition immediately after Team USA.

MM,

I think you should do a Poll on who thinks Andrew will be healthy and vital to us in May-June. No meanness meant here, just to put everyone on record and see which group eats Crow this summer, ha, ha.

hobbit - OMG you are on a ROLL today! Hilarious stuff!! Maybe we should team up - with our powers in synch, who knows what damage we could do LOL!!! Besides, I want to go to the ASG in LA and since MM won't take me... well... let's just say I'm considering switching allegiances. But - you have to promise to be good. And there will be no bowing down. Equal partners or nothing. (And no thanks - I'll pass on the popcorn.)

Posted by: justanothermambafan | November 27, 2010 at 03:47 PM
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justa, you actually read that ######?

Bynum is taking 5 months to recover from the same injury that Farmar
recoverd from in less than 30 days.
I personally don't think much of Bynum's heart and professional character.
I really don't think he wants to play as he is too comfortable on the bench.

@LakerTom - Interesting take, man, I had forgotten about Pau's bizarre reverse psychology dealy-o. My take on that is...whatever works for you, man. As strange as it sounds it's worked for the young Spaniard and it's seemingly working for LO...maybe I should give this failure as a motivator thing a go.


@hobbitmage - I see what you're getting at, however, I do think that Bynum had what is commonly known as a 'bad game'. I know you are a Bynum supporter as well as an honest critic of his spoken statements and play, but sometimes I think too much is read between the lines.

This from the same article you quote in your post: "...This is the sort of difference Bynum can make in the Lakers' game.

The Lakers closed the regular season 6-7 without Bynum because of his strained Achilles' tendon. If they don't get more of a presence from him inside to close this postseason, it's going to be a hard road in the NBA Finals against Boston, which pushed Gasol and Odom around in the 2008 Finals while Bynum sat out with his knee injury. The Lakers' 3-point shooting now is even less dependable than two years ago.

The Suns sat in their zone defense Sunday night, and the Lakers struggled with it largely because their interior offense is a lot different with perimeter-oriented Odom in there instead of true-big Bynum.

"We really never got to get inside-out," Gasol said. "That's how you hurt the zone really well: make the zone collapse and then kick it out and get a better shot."

There is no reason why Bynum can't do all the basic things if his mind is right. He might not be as explosive as he is at full power, but he certainly can do what the Lakers want.

He knows it...."


The article ends with a pro-Bynum quote from Kobe. As we saw in the NBA Finals, having Andrew on the court made it much harder for Kendrick Perkins to muscle Gasol out of the paint. The quote from Ding's article that stood out the most was the one regarding getting his mind right.

For me that's what it boils down to, is he mentally ready for the true life of an NBA star? I'm not talking about the World Cup trips, visits to the Playboy Mansion or Championship parades...but that little spark we all see in Kobe that pushes him that extra step beyond what others are comfortable with. That look that says, "One way or another, I'm going to beat you." I would argue that when Kobe first came into the league he did not have that edge and that, of all people, Del Harris helped foster it in him by not playing him much his rookie season.


I would argue that Kobe, in his own way, has started Bynum down this path. With his now infamous parking lot tirade, his trade demand and subsequent softening of his stance toward the young man, Kobe has shown that he feels that Bynum is as important a piece of the Laker puzzle as any other player, at least in the playoffs. As a result, Bynum has tracked upward each year and shown flashes of brilliance none of us saw coming.


The World Cup argument, to me, is fraught with inconsistencies. I cannot fault a person for trusting in his doctors and by all accounts it wasn't until the doctor got inside the knee that he went with the more invasive procedure. Phil, Mitch and the rest of Laker Land signed off on him going to the World Cup after the surgery and the longer recovery time were made public knowledge. For me, that's enough.


Again, we'll have to wait and see, I suspect Bynum will get off to a rocky start at first and won't round into form until after the All Star break (which basically insures we'll be seeing this topic come back). Mentally, he's taken his multitude of injuries better than, say, Greg Oden has.


When it comes to folks 'round here accusing you of making up stats to support your arguments...well, maybe they're just jealous because the faith they have in Bynum cannot be supported by numbers but is something that feels just out of reach, just beyond that horizon line, and is palpable to them. Maybe they have nothing better to do. Maybe they just want to stir it up. I dunno...but a box score is a box score and to refute that is just plain silly.


For me, I just want to see him track upward from the moment he takes the floor and if we win three in a row, it'll all be worth it one way or the other. If we don't... well I suppose that's when Bynum's mental toughness might get a real test because lots of people might single him out, depending on how it all shakes out.

888 - hobbit can be quite hilarious.


The only thing that bugs me is the sniping -but that comes from several camps.


I just stay out of it and appreciate everyone for what they can bring here that's positive.


I get too worn down otherwise.....


Also, in the WC Finals, Bynum averaged about 19 mpg, in game 4 he picked up 4 fouls in those 7 minutes and looking at the box we shot 28 (!) 3 pointers...connecting on 7 and we got to the line a whopping 13 times to Phoenix's 32 so it appears our guards all seemed to think they were "On Fire" so to speak.


@KobeMVP888 - Yes, we read those informative opinions by one of the more respected Bloggers who has been here longer than you. Just like I read your posts, because I'm interested in what I don't see or think is rather than what I feel is gospel. But rail away, man, rail away, this Blog is yours as much as it is mine.

Three weeks seems like kind of a long time.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

We really should consider signing a backup who can play a few minutes. We are risking an injury to Gasol and Odom every time they play 40 minutes.

@KobeMVP888 - Yes, we read those informative opinions by one of the more respected Bloggers who has been here longer than you.
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So this is a fraternity and I'm still pledging. hobbitmage "informative"?! ROFLMFAO x 1,000,000!!!

I've read some of your words of wisdom, too. Let's put it this way. It makes it easy to skim through some of the garbage in here. I have forgotten more basketball than hobbitmage will ever know. Put us in a room with no internet and I will destroy him at his own game: statistics. The fact that he's been polluting this forum for longer than I have been here means nothing. He's a contrarian for the sake of stirring up crap. Informative? Mr. Sweet, may I suggest that you consult other sources for your "information."

hobbitmage has comes up with posts like (and I'm paraphrasing): "I googled Andrew Bynum charity and came up with nothing." Not only is that NOT funny, it's downright mean-spirted.

hobbitmage isn't a Lakers fan. He's a hobbitmage fan.

@MM… I think it’s pretty telling for a player to visualize failure rather than success as a motivational tool. To me, visualizing failure would seem to undermine a player’s confidence and even make him prone to choking in the clutch. Visualize failure just reinforces that it’s just not in Pau’s or Lamar’s DNA to be a closer but I do think they need to think positively and play the same to do their best. Bottom line, an occasional opportunity to be the man is good for both of them provided it works.

When you come down to it, there really are very few players who truly want the ball in their hands to close out the game. Pau will never be a closer but I am sure he will respond better next time he gets the ball. When you have Kobe to close games, all you need is the other players not to choke but to continue playing without letting the pressure of the moment overcome them and affect their play.

What was great about the first quarter of the Utah game was how efficiently we ran the offense without relying upon the 3-point shot. If there is any early stat that worries me it is our awesome 3-point shooting. Yes, we’ve added some excellent long range firepower in Barnes and Blake but I’m still a little skeptical that Fish and Brown can continue to shoot like they have. The problem is that when you live by the 3, you die by the 3, although we also missed countless bunnies in the paint.

……………………………….

TOM

Perhaps the KISS principle applies: The team took a chance on a kid with a reputation for laziness, injuries in H.S. & lucrative contract in order save money before he became a restricted free agent. Under the circumstances of that day, I never understood or agreed with the team's decision. As of today, the team took a gamble and lost. Obviously, we don't want this to be true but unfortunately, it certainly appears that way.

"The Lakers blinked. Instead of forcing Bynum to earn his extension this season, the Lakers out bid nobody and signed the extension. The Lakers held all the cards: Bynum was coming of knee surgery, has yet to prove he can play a full 82-games as a starter and the Lakers can match any offer for Bynum as he was a restricted free agent. A rule of thumb in the NBA, players PLAY for contracts (Barron Davis played a full 82-games in a contact year... need I say any more?). Have him go a full 82 and earn that contract extension!"
October 30, 2008
Brief Thoughts on Bynum's New Contract Extension
by Craig Kwasniewski
http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2008/10/brief-thoughts.html


@KobeMVP888 - Like I said, it's a public forum, man, we all got opinions and we all feel strongly, thanks for the concern, though. It's good to know folks are worried about my informational well-being. Also, rolling around on the floor that much is not the best way to clean up after the holidays ;-)


@LakerTom - I generally shie away from making predictions (as I am often wrong) but I'm-a-gonna make one here. Our three point shooting will cool off. Those bunnies we missed are the shots we want and I will take Kobe/Pau/Lamar/Bynum/Artest in the paint over any of our guards hucking up a 3 any day of the week (excluding Kobe, I'm done doubting him, he's proven me wrong every time). Also, I am in 'Frisco this weekend and will be at Amnesia in the Mission tonight, I know it's a family weekend, but if you got a minute I got a beer with your name on it. Leaving in the early AM. Otherwise, to the future, to the health of the Blog Fam and to the Lakers!


GO LAKERS!!!!!

@KobeMVP888 - Like I said, it's a public forum, man, we all got opinions and we all feel strongly, thanks for the concern, though. It's good to know folks are worried about my informational well-being. Also, rolling around on the floor that much is not the best way to clean up after the holidays ;-)


@LakerTom - I generally shie away from making predictions (as I am often wrong) but I'm-a-gonna make one here. Our three point shooting will cool off. Those bunnies we missed are the shots we want and I will take Kobe/Pau/Lamar/Bynum/Artest in the paint over any of our guards hucking up a 3 any day of the week (excluding Kobe, I'm done doubting him, he's proven me wrong every time). Also, I am in 'Frisco this weekend and will be at Amnesia in the Mission tonight, I know it's a family weekend, but if you got a minute I got a beer with your name on it. Leaving in the early AM. Otherwise, to the future, to the health of the Blog Fam and to the Lakers!


GO LAKERS!!!!!

@JAMIE… I agree with you 100% on that prediction. Good things happen when you attack the paint first. Thanks for the beer offer. If I weren’t babysitting my granddaughters tonight, I would take you up on it. Give me a little more notice next time you’re up here and will definitely get together.

……………………………….

TOM

*sigh*

Justanothermambafan,

I hear what you're saying about the sniping.

KobeMVP888,

re: googling Bynum & charity.

I actually did that because of a post by another blogger re: T-Day I believe.

However, ...

the google search on kobe:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Kobe+%2B+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

link #1 http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/840-kobe-bryant

Kobe Bryant is the official ambassador for After-School All-Stars, a national children’s charity that provides after-school programs to 72,000 inner-city kids.

here's a google search on Fisher. [ note, I had to search a little bit. ]
http://www.google.com/search?q=does+derek+fisher+help+with+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

third link: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5478222/derek_fisher_of_the_lakers_a_short.html

snippet: 1) As a graduate of University of Arkansas at Little Rock (UALR), Fisher returned to donate $700,000 to the University for an auxiliary gym at the Stephens Center and to establish Fisher Fellows, a mentoring program for neighborhood middle school students. The Fisher Fellows program provides mentoring to 6th-8th grade students from Southwest Middle School who are paired with UALR student athletes to learn the concepts of life, academics, organizational, social, and athletic skills. An incredible concept!

2) The Derek and Candace Fisher Family Foundation (DCFFF) helps many people, including the assistance to families affected by retinoblastoma, along with reaching out to communities, supporting education, and taking health and fitness initiatives.

3) Actively involved with American Cancer Society and Big Brothers and Big Sisters.

here's the 3rd search I did on Bynum:
http://www.google.com/search?q=does+derek+fisher+help+with+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&expIds=17050,25657,25907,26486,26488,26492,26494,27028,27339,27642,27744&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=does+andrew+bynum+help+with+charity&cp=17&pf=p&sclient=psy&client=firefox-a&hs=UbC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=b69933d19f024e3b

sadly I found nothing about him and charity.

Now, I don't want to be mean spirited, so ... KobeMVP888, why don't you
post something which shows Bynum doing charity work. That's all it
would take to show people that he does charity work. C'mon. Man up!
You're a Bynum supporter. Support the incredible length of the Lakers.

re: forgotten more basketball than I've ever known. That may very well
be the case. It would also explain why you can't reason your way out of
a paper bag. You've actually forgotten how things work. Let me help you
out. They got rid of the peach baskets & instituted the 3 second rule
among other things. KB Blitz can point you to some wonderful books to
help you learn about the modern game of basketball.

Jamie Sweet,

a few things ...

1. you wrote: The article ends with a pro-Bynum quote from Kobe. As we saw in the NBA Finals, having Andrew on the court made it much harder for Kendrick Perkins to muscle Gasol out of the paint. The quote from Ding's article that stood out the most was the one regarding getting his mind right.

For me that's what it boils down to, is he mentally ready for the true life of an NBA star? I'm not talking about the World Cup trips, visits to the Playboy Mansion or Championship parades...but that little spark we all see in Kobe that pushes him that extra step beyond what others are comfortable with. That look that says, "One way or another, I'm going to beat you." I would argue that when Kobe first came into the league he did not have that edge and that, of all people, Del Harris helped foster it in him by not playing him much his rookie season.

my response: Yes, it does end with a pro-Bynum quote from Kobe. Yes, we've
heard a number of pro-Bynum things from a number of people both Lakers
and non-Lakers. That being said, the box score doesn't lend nearly as
much support to what the Bynum hyperbole machine as it does to the
Kobe fans, the Pau fans, the LO fans, etc. etc. etc. No, stats don't tell the
whole story. However, the story can't be told without the stats.

re: being mentally ready. Actually, if you read what Tom Thibadeau &
Jerry West had to say ... Then yes, Kobe was ready for the pros when he
arrived.

Again, I have never said that Bynum was a bad player nor did I say that he
wasn't useful to the Lakers. I have repeatedly said that somebody on the
Lakers needs to put their foot into his behind. I have also said that he could
be replaced. For cryin' out loud, he's playing with Kobe & Pau. Any
reasonable center would work. 6 years as a Laker. 3 years as the personal
student of Kareem & he can't average a double-double.

fwiw, I would like to see Bynum succeed as a Laker.

*sigh*

Justanothermambafan,

I hear what you're saying about the sniping.

KobeMVP888,

re: googling Bynum & charity.

I actually did that because of a post by another blogger re: T-Day I believe.

However, ...

the google search on kobe:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Kobe+%2B+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

link #1 http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/840-kobe-bryant

Kobe Bryant is the official ambassador for After-School All-Stars, a national children’s charity that provides after-school programs to 72,000 inner-city kids.

here's a google search on Fisher. [ note, I had to search a little bit. ]
http://www.google.com/search?q=does+derek+fisher+help+with+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

third link: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5478222/derek_fisher_of_the_lakers_a_short.html

snippet: 1) As a graduate of University of Arkansas at Little Rock (UALR), Fisher returned to donate $700,000 to the University for an auxiliary gym at the Stephens Center and to establish Fisher Fellows, a mentoring program for neighborhood middle school students. The Fisher Fellows program provides mentoring to 6th-8th grade students from Southwest Middle School who are paired with UALR student athletes to learn the concepts of life, academics, organizational, social, and athletic skills. An incredible concept!

2) The Derek and Candace Fisher Family Foundation (DCFFF) helps many people, including the assistance to families affected by retinoblastoma, along with reaching out to communities, supporting education, and taking health and fitness initiatives.

3) Actively involved with American Cancer Society and Big Brothers and Big Sisters.

here's the 3rd search I did on Bynum:
http://www.google.com/search?q=does+derek+fisher+help+with+charity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&expIds=17050,25657,25907,26486,26488,26492,26494,27028,27339,27642,27744&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=does+andrew+bynum+help+with+charity&cp=17&pf=p&sclient=psy&client=firefox-a&hs=UbC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=b69933d19f024e3b

sadly I found nothing about him and charity.

Now, I don't want to be mean spirited, so ... KobeMVP888, why don't you
post something which shows Bynum doing charity work. That's all it
would take to show people that he does charity work. C'mon. Man up!
You're a Bynum supporter. Support the incredible length of the Lakers.

re: forgotten more basketball than I've ever known. That may very well
be the case. It would also explain why you can't reason your way out of
a paper bag. You've actually forgotten how things work. Let me help you
out. They got rid of the peach baskets & instituted the 3 second rule
among other things. KB Blitz can point you to some wonderful books to
help you learn about the modern game of basketball.

Jamie Sweet,

a few things ...

1. you wrote: The article ends with a pro-Bynum quote from Kobe. As we saw in the NBA Finals, having Andrew on the court made it much harder for Kendrick Perkins to muscle Gasol out of the paint. The quote from Ding's article that stood out the most was the one regarding getting his mind right.

For me that's what it boils down to, is he mentally ready for the true life of an NBA star? I'm not talking about the World Cup trips, visits to the Playboy Mansion or Championship parades...but that little spark we all see in Kobe that pushes him that extra step beyond what others are comfortable with. That look that says, "One way or another, I'm going to beat you." I would argue that when Kobe first came into the league he did not have that edge and that, of all people, Del Harris helped foster it in him by not playing him much his rookie season.

my response: Yes, it does end with a pro-Bynum quote from Kobe. Yes, we've
heard a number of pro-Bynum things from a number of people both Lakers
and non-Lakers. That being said, the box score doesn't lend nearly as
much support to what the Bynum hyperbole machine as it does to the
Kobe fans, the Pau fans, the LO fans, etc. etc. etc. No, stats don't tell the
whole story. However, the story can't be told without the stats.

re: being mentally ready. Actually, if you read what Tom Thibadeau &
Jerry West had to say ... Then yes, Kobe was ready for the pros when he
arrived.

Again, I have never said that Bynum was a bad player nor did I say that he
wasn't useful to the Lakers. I have repeatedly said that somebody on the
Lakers needs to put their foot into his behind. I have also said that he could
be replaced. For cryin' out loud, he's playing with Kobe & Pau. Any
reasonable center would work. 6 years as a Laker. 3 years as the personal
student of Kareem & he can't average a double-double.

fwiw, I would like to see Bynum succeed as a Laker.

The bottom line is fish is the problem,sit him on the bench
until the play off maye he can come in and make a 3 pointer
and after he do that sit him back on the bench.
he is the worse defennsive guard i have watch this year.
no assist.play brown and blake more.if fish love
the lakers he woulld ask the coach to bench him.


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