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Pau Gasol has plenty of responsibilities during Lakers' visit to Barcelona

The Lakers arrived at Palau Sant Jordi in Barcelona, Spain, in what Phil Jackson had hoped would become a productive practice session.

There was only one problem.

"I had five guys miss the team bus this morning," he told reporters. "I blame Pau [Gasol] for that, but we won't hold it against him. He took them out last night and showed them some of the sights of Barcelona. We got a little bit behind the 8 ball on this trip."

On a European trip that has featured plenty of publicity events, practices and travel, there has been very little time for the Lakers to accomplish what they've wanted on the court during the eight days between London and Barcelona. That's essentially why Jackson labeled training camp a "bust" before it even started.

There's at least one person who sees this trip, however, as more than an inconvenience in the training camp schedule. Gasol, a Barcelona native, calls the Lakers' exhibition Thursday against FC Barcelona a "very special game," but even he recognizes how the trip adds to his anxieties. Though he made it clear during the Lakers' media day that he wasn't going to be a "tour guide," Gasol's outing with his teammates epitomizes how the Lakers' trip to Barcelona further stretches his responsibilities.

"It's always special. "But at the same time, it wears you out a little bit," Gasol said. "The hardest part will be until the point of the game. That will be the toughest part because we will have a pretty busy schedule."

To hear Gasol tell it sounded pretty exhausting. Even a week before the trip began, Gasol rattled off the numerous public appearances, practices, media obligations and meetings with friends and family and could only imagine how much he'd feel stretched thin.

"I'll be pulled from many ways," Gasol said. "But I'll try to do what I can."

One of those efforts entailed treating the team to dinner, a gesture that at least made rookie forward Devin Ebanks feel appreciated. Tweeted Ebanks: "Had a great dinner wit my teammates just now, THANKS PAU GASOL FOR TAKIN CARE OFF DINNER FOR US IN YOUR COUNTRY." It also included meeting with fellow Spaniards, such as FC Barcelona's Juan Carlos Navarro, who reportedly told Gasol that his team will beat the Lakers, and basking in nationalistic pride. Spain accomplished plenty this year in the sports realm, including a World Cup, Gasol's NBA championship, Rafael Nadal's fifth French Open and Wimbledon title, Alberto Contador's triumph in the Tour de France and Fernando Alons' Formula One Grand Prix victory. And most importantly, Gasol hopes, the trip ends with a Lakers victory.

"It's a game I personally wouldn't want to lose.  It's a personal thing."

 

The trip to Spain marks Gasol's third homecoming, including a 2003 exhibition game with Memphis in Barcelona and in 2007 in Madrid and Malaga. But the reasons for wanting to perform well go beyond wanting to put on a good showing before his hometown against a team he played for from 1999-2001 and led to a Spanish League championship. He's also expected to take on a heavy workload.

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant told reporters he expects to play against FC Barcelona, but it remains uncertain whether he'll surpass the six minutes he allotted in an exhibition game Monday against the Minnesota Timberwolves in London, and Jackson expects Gasol to lead the team instead. Lakers center Andrew Bynum remains sidelined while recovering from a surgically repaired right knee, meaning Gasol will shoulder most of the minutes inside. It'll mean Gasol needs a better showing against FC Barcelona than against Minnesota, where he posted numbers that would embarrass him before his native country: seven points, five fouls and four turnovers. And for all the motivation this game conjures up for Gasol, it'll mark a good test for him after devoting his off-season to resting up and going on various international trips.

That extra energy could come in handy for a man stretched thin on his homecoming visit.

"I didn't really have a chance to realize I'm away from basketball or that I've taken a break," Gasol said about his off-season. "But at the same time, I feel refreshed, excited and ready to go and start playing basketball."

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my response: It is sad that some think so little of Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant,
Pau Gasol, Ron Artest & Lamar Odom. I think that Mitch Kupchak did an
OUTSTANDING job during free agency. I will take our bench over every
other bench in the NBA.

In 2008, we did not lose because of our C. We lost because Vladamir Radmonivic got punked by Paul Pearce. We have upgraded at the SF position.
We upgraded our bench.

Barring injuries to Kobe & Paul, we are winning the championship this year.

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!!

Posted by: hobbitmage | October 06, 2010 at 02:20 PM
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People forget Game 7 we were down 13 points. They would also credit Bynum more than any other of his teammates as being more responsible for the comeback.

But I suppose 13ppg and 7rpg classifies as "dominating". I didn't know that when it comes to Bynum that 1 point usually would mean 2 points and that 1 rebound is credited as 1.5 rebounds.

Welcome to the twilight zone I guess.

cyber, hit it hard and give me a yes vote. can we move on beyond bynum and wait till Nov. because there are no hard facts on the table, we kept speculating in every thread. if we don't stop speculating this could be our "Achilles heel" in making a 3peat not bec/ bynum is absent, it's because the players are tormented to a never ending saga.....

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | October 06, 2010 at 04:06 PM
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I would too but it seems it's a crime to say to say anything non positive about Andrew Bynum. It's a religion I could say Edwin that Bynum is the best center in basketball and will be a perannial MVP candidate.

As with other religions just ignore them though if it really bothers you. Though zinging is okay at times considering that Bynum has no flaws. The greatest thing I ever saw was a website that said Bynum was a lock for a 30 point, 15 rebound average against the Heat in the Finals or a 35 point, 16 rebound average on the Celtics. The flock here would put the website in their bible lol.

You should do like what the Cavaliers did to Mike Brown: Tune it out. That's the best way I suppose.

Timberwolves wins 2 straight in a row.


Kurt Rambis might have found the second coming of Vlade Divac. His name is Nikola Pekovic. He plays like Divac, moves like Divac, and even looks like Divac a little.


New players at SF Wesly Johnson, Michael Beasely and Martell Webster are all 6'7 playing well. Interchangeable pieces perfect for the triangle.


Ellington is becoming a reliable shooter.

@LakerTom -

My best wishes to Mrs. LakerTom.

Any chance of her joining Bynum's rehab team and cracking the whip a little?

@BLITZ… “People forget Game 7 we were down 13 points. They would also credit Bynum more than any other of his teammates as being more responsible for the comeback.” That’s just silly. Drew did not play during the Lakers comeback so how could he be “more” responsible for it?
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LOL! Your above statement is the type of mischaracterization of my and other Bynum’s supporters’ position that drives me crazy. I know you were making the comment in jest (or at least, I hope so). But seriously, let’s try and keep the discussion grounded in reality without unnecessary false hyperbole.
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What I’ve said is that the Lakers would not have won the last two championships without Drew. I’ve NEVER said that Drew was a more valuable or bigger contributor to our championships than Kobe, Pau, Fish, Ron, or Lamar. In fact, I have said that, in my opinion, there were six Laker players without whom we probably would have lost to the Celtics last year – Kobe, Pau, Fish, Lamar, Ron, and Drew – all of whom made vital contributions to the team beating the Celtics. I think most Lakers fans would agree with that statement. In fact, I think you would also agree. Anyway, I just wanted to make my position clear. OK? :-)
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TOM

Cyber,

I'm with LRob on your poll.

Glad you liked the You Tube thing, was funny, and accurate I think.

@HTJ… Thanks for nice words for Mrs. LakerTom. She is definitely a task master. Forget about Drew, I’m worried about her cracking the whip to get me to work off the extra pounds I’ve put on since we used to run together every day after work. Now she says all I do is blog. LOL! I’ve still got a few months of vacation before she really starts putting the pressure on me to rehab my lazy self. Actually, I’ve started running again to get in shape for my grandson’s CYO league, where I will be taking over as Head Coach for my son who will be too busy. I’m determined to get in good enough shape to play in the Coaches game at the end of the season. Of course, after that game, I might end up having to go through rehab myself. LOL,
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TOM

LAKER TRUTH: "You're looking at it the wrong way. If Bynum was HEALTHY, you'll see more touches and more minutes given to Bynum, which will result in better numbers. The point is, as Phil noted, Bynum hasn't been healthy in three years, and if he struggles with his health again this year, he will be treated like "Greg Oden and Yao", and will see limited minutes."
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I think that the Lakers look to Kobe and Pau to give them most of their scoring punch at this time, deservedly so. Fish will get his shots too, as will Ron Ron. Bynum is on a very talented team, so obviously he isn't the focal-point of the Laker offense as much as he'd be on most other teams.

Can you imagine how many touches he would have gotten if he were on another team? I'm sure they'd be a lot more. The fact that he was on the cusp of being an all-star last season, despite the fact he is surrounded by so much talent around him, and his age - that speaks volumes.

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KobeMVP888: "HAVING SAID THAT, admittedly I have gained a great deal of respect for Doc Rivers. I thought he should have run away with the COY in 2008 after getting his three HOFers to set aside their egos and win 66 games and play the great defense they played in their very first season together."
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You know, if I hear that ridiculous quote from the game 7 pregame again, the one where Doc says when the C's have a reunion to "Let our rings touch" (gawd... how corny) I'll puke. Also, that false and lame thing Doc said, that the Lakers have never beaten their starters.

2 stupid things, but for the most part Doc is a real good coach. I felt that there were times he really was the motivating factor to get big baby going, as well as the others.

I gotta give Doc props too. He's shown he's a solid NBA coach.

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Art - FL Laker Fan: "I'm with LRob on your poll."
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You got it!

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Did the Lakers frontcourt dominate the C's when Bynum was on the court?
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YES: 5 (CCX, LakerTom, htj, mud, Edwin Gueco)
NO: 0
AT TIMES: 2 (LRob, Art - FL Laker Fan)
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GO LAKERS!!!!!

Man - the Spanish team is really gearing up for this like it actually means something, and the Lakers really don't care because... IT AIN'T FOR THE MONEY! I love that.

Now, if the Spanish team wants to come to the NBA Finals (not possible yet, but still) and then beat the Lakers, that might mean something, but really... this is like people saying "I got a great movie idea," or "I could coach that football team," or "I do really well in my quarter poker game at home, I bet I could win the Poker Championship." It's real different when the money's on the line.

I bet if the Lakers lose, and in some ways, without Kobe, Drew, only their second game back from the summer, it's totally possible, people are going to be declaring them "only the U.S. champions!" or something lame like that.

(63 Footer shakes his head)

It is to laugh.

KB Blitz: "I would too but it seems it's a crime to say to say anything non positive about Andrew Bynum. It's a religion I could say Edwin that Bynum is the best center in basketball and will be a perannial MVP candidate.
As with other religions just ignore them though if it really bothers you. Though zinging is okay at times considering that Bynum has no flaws. The greatest thing I ever saw was a website that said Bynum was a lock for a 30 point, 15 rebound average against the Heat in the Finals or a 35 point, 16 rebound average on the Celtics. The flock here would put the website in their bible lol.
You should do like what the Cavaliers did to Mike Brown: Tune it out. That's the best way I suppose."

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I think all of us could deal with criticism of Bynum when it's simply that. The thing is, I know what gets me going, is when it crosses the line into the bashing - something that frequently has happened to Drew.

You may try anyway you can to denigrate him, by pointing out he had poor stats on so-and-so game, that he is merely the 4th or 5th option on offense, that he is doomed to an injury-prone career (let's all pray he isn't) - whatever.

The thing is, you say that those that defend him from his attacks claim that he is perfect, and not to be criticized. That is wrong. Criticism is fine, bashing though is uncalled for.

It irks some people that Drew has backers on the board, that see his potential and offensive gifts, and want to tear him down - in a knee-jerk reaction it seems like - by any means possible.

You say that Drew should do more on his touches, should be more assertive, should block more shots.... etc are valid criticism (god knows, I'm not trying to say what is 'valid critism' or not - that isn't what I'm doing here!!!).

I just think that he shouldn't be pummeled any which way possible, simply to pummel him...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

I think all of us could deal with criticism of Bynum when it's simply that. The thing is, I know what gets me going, is when it crosses the line into the bashing - something that frequently has happened to Drew.

You may try anyway you can to denigrate him, by pointing out he had poor stats on so-and-so game, that he is merely the 4th or 5th option on offense, that he is doomed to an injury-prone career (let's all pray he isn't) - whatever.

The thing is, you say that those that defend him from his attacks claim that he is perfect, and not to be criticized. That is wrong. Criticism is fine, bashing though is uncalled for.

It irks some people that Drew has backers on the board, that see his potential and offensive gifts, and want to tear him down - in a knee-jerk reaction it seems like - by any means possible.

You say that Drew should do more on his touches, should be more assertive, should block more shots.... etc are valid criticism (god knows, I'm not trying to say what is 'valid critism' or not - that isn't what I'm doing here!!!).

I just think that he shouldn't be pummeled any which way possible, simply to pummel him...

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | October 06, 2010 at 05:23 PM
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LAKER TRUTH has valid points yet you go out of your seesaws to go and bash his arguments.

See what I mean with the jest Laker Tom?

Hence the flock and the emotional response is amusing especially from you Cyber. If we said Bynum doesn't have the game to become a franchise player I'm guessing you or MVP888 or LT would feel like I just smacked your children lol. If someone else said Bynum is a lock for 30 points and 15 rebounds against the Heat you guys would be worshiping the ground they walk through lol.

Don't worry though the Bynum criticisms are much more nicer than the ones I give to the Randy Moss/Terrell Owen tards who kept saying either was better than Jerry Rice.

look, at this point Bynum is no Wilt, Kareem, Shaq or Hakeem. that's a given. he IS a very effective player when he's healthy however, PLENTY good enough.


that's reason enough to be patient. actually, if he wasn't such a slow healer, i'm not even sure that he's missed an unbelievable amount of time due to injury. Wilt was certainly injured much of his career(3 seasons of less that 40 games, one season of 12) and so was Shaq(13 seasons playing less than 70 games, 8 of those 60 games or less), not to mention Hakeem(6 seasons less than 60 games) and the list goes on. big guys get hurt. deal with it. there aren't better centers out there available. he'll be healthy soon enough, and though he's not the greatest of all time or a statisical marvel, he'll help the team.


i'm with the CyberCosmiX on this one. no need to bash Bynum or his supporters. anyone celebrating a Bynum failure is a failure as a Lakers fan, as a Bynum failure hurts the Lakers.

KB Blitz - but is Drew better than Jerry Rice?


(For the record: Jerry Rice was the best. Talent, work ethic, class.)

KB Blitz: " If we said Bynum doesn't have the game to become a franchise player I'm guessing you or MVP888 or LT would feel like I just smacked your children lol."
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Actually, that would be one of the first times that you guys (you used the word 'we', so it is 'you guys' - right?) didn't try to bash Drew in some way, shape or form.

So is that your bottom line problem with Drew, you think he lacks the game in your eyes to be a franchise player? Because I think here - FINALLY - we are getting to the bottom line, aren't we???

BTW, I don't 'bash' LAKER TRUTH arguments, and I don't think that he does mine, but it is possible to debate, isn't it?

If someone breaks out the 'Pau had a better game than Drew' argument, well that's fine.

A lot of people try to break out the 'Kobe had a 6-for-24 shooting game' argument, especially to try and point out how MJ was so much better. Well, the fact is, Kobe had 14 rebounds in a series where the team that outrebounded the other won every game, etc...

But with Drew, you guys get flustered when you meet some resistance in a debate, then go to the 'Bynum is perfect' card. We can't defend him, or be labeled as emotional. OK, whatever.

I don't want to leave it on this note, though. If you feel that Bynum is overrated, then that is fine. Much of the Bynum debate centers around promise/potential and if Bynum can live up to things. There are a lot of factors, his health issues, his attitude, his game, etc...

If you're telling me that it's his game that doesn't merit being a starter then we agree to disagree. If you don't buy into his potential, again we disagree. If we look at his injuries, and they are a concern, well we agree. Maybe, they are too much of a concern to you to keep him around, and would like to get some value for him now, in a trade, rather than wait. OK, that is fine. If someone throws out that an unhurt center, and a point guard is enough to get back in a trade for him, well then expect that to be debated.

But who says we can't agree - Jerry Rice really was the finest wide reciever of all-time (and this comes from a Raiders fan!).


GO LAKERS!!!!

ArtFl, that was a funny rap...man! Can you imagine how rich can we be if we go on speculations in the currency exchange fx, the price of metals or option derivatives. See how Bernard Madoff mastered this trade and fooled the best and the brightest. haha! In the case of Socks whatever you speculate he's holding his money tight...nada, zilch, wala!

So please dear bloggers, Kblitz, LT can we end all these bynum talks and lets discuss this FC Barcelona? Are the Lakers going to win tomorrow? LMAO, we're only in preseason MM is in full speed with the trades, I mean threads.

mud: "look, at this point Bynum is no Wilt, Kareem, Shaq or Hakeem. that's a given. he IS a very effective player when he's healthy however, PLENTY good enough.

that's reason enough to be patient. actually, if he wasn't such a slow healer, i'm not even sure that he's missed an unbelievable amount of time due to injury. Wilt was certainly injured much of his career(3 seasons of less that 40 games, one season of 12) and so was Shaq(13 seasons playing less than 70 games, 8 of those 60 games or less), not to mention Hakeem(6 seasons less than 60 games) and the list goes on. big guys get hurt. deal with it. there aren't better centers out there available. he'll be healthy soon enough, and though he's not the greatest of all time or a statisical marvel, he'll help the team.

i'm with the CyberCosmiX on this one. no need to bash Bynum or his supporters. anyone celebrating a Bynum failure is a failure as a Lakers fan, as a Bynum failure hurts the Lakers."
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AMEN!

Your last line is very well said mud. I hope it can be taken to heart. I can accept that some people don't think that Bynum has the game to become a franchise player, like KB Blitz said above, that is fine. But always using whatever means to bash him really is what starts these 'debates' going.

I disliked Farmars game, but hoped he'd play well, so am not adverse to arguing against a player. But I'd try to bring to the table some things to justify my position, especially since it was a contrary position to many, and the debate raged on.

The Bynum debate has really gotten divisive, I just want to say no hard feelings KB Blitz, LAKER TRUTH or anyone else. Hope no one takes offense to the debate we've been having (for weeks... lol), no offense intended from my part to anyone...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Edwin: "So please dear bloggers, Kblitz, LT can we end all these bynum talks and lets discuss this FC Barcelona? Are the Lakers going to win tomorrow? LMAO, we're only in preseason MM is in full speed with the trades, I mean threads."
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Sounds good man, I'll do my part and censor myself on the endless Bynum debate for at least the next couple days...

After pointing out the discrepancy of answers on the Bynum domination vs the C's question. muahhahaaa

OK, OK. JK. Couldn't help myself, lol. Seriously though, no hard feelings. Hope to be on the same side of the next debate on the blog with KB Blitz and LAKER TRUTH.


Actually can't wait for tomorrow's game, I'm really curious as to which Laker gets the loudest cheers (Kobe or Pau) and how the fans will cheer. My guess, is that they'll cheer pretty much whenever Barca/Kobe/Pau score...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Yeah I got an idea from what Cyber CosmiX said, Bynum is a slow healer. While on rehab, he should consult a faith healer. Asians have strong reliance on faith healing, sometimes it works that is mind over matter. I saw a lot of people who got healed. I was waiting on line when I see people coming out without the cane on their sprained foot. I was told the faith healer wiped it with efficascent oil several times, prayed over it....wala the lame walks, a guy on wheel chair stood up and greeted all people on the line, the whiplash victim removes the neck brace. I think even Dr. Altchek took this course about Oriental Medicine when he a medical student. I was even told by an acupuncturists in our area in Rowland Heights, CA, he can cure Bynum while waiting for my turn in the barber shop. That's another speculation from a barber shop blog! Try it Bynum...it works, ask Jon K.

Kobe888,

For the 100th time, I've NEVER disagreed with you regarding Bynum's importance to the team, his importance to future championships and how dominant a HEALTHY Drew can be.

This discussion is about Phil's recent comments about Bynum's health, whether Phil's earlier projected return date for Bynum is a motivational ploy, whether Bynum is being lackadaisical in his rehab, whether Bynum has the proper motivation to be the future franchise player, whether Bynum will become a "career situational player", and whether it is wise to limit Bynum's minutes ala "Greg Oden and Yao". Anytime I mention these health related topics, you have a habit of misdirecting the discussion into how dominant a healthy Bynum can be (i.e. your continual references to Doc Rivers), as if we're not on the same page. Those misdirecting tactics will not work with me:}. Let's stay on point.

peace

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | October 06, 2010 at 04:58 PM
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So I digressed, so what. :)

I don't believe I went off topic. You created a tidy list of Bynum issues and then I commented on each of them. Then you quoted the one about me disagreeing that Bynum is lackadaisical and it is your feeling that PJ's comments were directed at that while I believe his words to the media were general motivation words. Then you said something, I digressed and here we are.

I don't think I refer to Andrew Bynum as "dominant" although as a big man, that is his role and he certainly has a huge impact in the paint whether he's healthy or hobbled. As the starting center on a championship team and a key member of PJ's rotation, of course he's extremely important, but for now he's a role player.

Did I digress again?

Cyber,
Not sure that criticism is always viewed as such. When the issue is a sensitive one, it becomes bashing almost immediately. But hey, who am I to define that fine line. I knew there was something I liked about you, you are a Raiders fan, and so am I. I know that I've had my share of "criticism" towards Drew, but I'll be the first to say that I'd rather play with him than against him. I believe that he has outperformed his pick on the draft, considering who else was taken before him, and after him.
I also believe that we can win with another "talented" center besides him just because the way the team is built, and as you have said, the talent around him.
Anyway, I enjoy your posts even if we have differing views at times. It must be the Raiders thing!

Cyber

Of course you can chalk me up for a YES on that!

Edwin Gueco

Never mind a faith healer, at his age Andrew should just go to the Playboy Mansion as much as possible.

For the 100th time, I've NEVER disagreed with you regarding Bynum's importance to the team, his importance to future championships and how dominant a HEALTHY Drew can be. - Laker Truth

As the starting center on a championship team and a key member of PJ's rotation, of course he's extremely important, but for now he's a role player. - Kobe MVP888

I believe that he has outperformed his pick on the draft, considering who else was taken before him, and after him. - Laker J

Seriously though, no hard feelings. Hope to be on the same side of the next debate on the blog with KB Blitz and LAKER TRUTH. - Cyber CosmiX

Forget about Drew - LakerTom

~~I cherry picked the best phrases and sentences from the debates. They all agree that the best is yet to come if he's healthy. Right now, he just sits around so we cannot describe his game plan. All issues RESOLVED for the meantime.....until MM hears another interview. lol!


Adrew, please I beg of you...don't turn into this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoCn7igv47U&feature=related

I'm sure Bynum tried a few witch doctors while he was in South Africa. Hey, maybe that's the problem. What if the witch doctor was a Celtics fan? Drew may have a curse that he knows not of. He needs our help more than ever. Edwin, I think you're on to something.

Laker J, NO I don't want to start debate on witch hunting or curse. Faith healing is very common among asians even to non-believers, they are just interested for the pain to disappear.

You're right Edwin. We obviously know western medicine and look at the medical issues through that lens. However, eastern medicine, which we think as alternative, has been effective even when traditional approaches have failed. It may be worth a try.
As KobeMVP888 pointed out, the playboy mansion could be the place to summon the healer. "Sir this way please, no you can not.....sir, please, Mr. Bynum is this way..."

Yes KobeMVP888, Laker J, here is the reason why the Mansion rehab is effective? Our reply to LRob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a7cHPy04s8&feature=related

Changing the topic: Any Fatty sightings, we pray for his safety and his family, there was a twister today at Flagstaff, AZ.

I seriously don't want to add to any larger debate about Andrew but it's important to look at the circumstances of this particular surgery. The decision to preserve the cartilage by sewing the tear (rather than removing it) necessitates a longer recovery - the blood has to work its way through in order to do its healing. On the other hand, I'm of the firm belief that without a gimpy 7-footer with flashes of brilliance, you're nothing in this league, haha.

If we said Bynum doesn't have the game to become a franchise player I'm guessing you or MVP888 or LT would feel like I just smacked your children lol.

Posted by: KB Blitz | October 06, 2010 at 06:04 PM
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The Blitz Spin Zone. Why don't you have your lap dog comb the archives for one post where I have spoken about Bynum in the same vein as great Lakers centers from the past. We all hope he develops into that player, but I have never proclaimed him that. The skills are certainly there, the physique is certainly there, the size and length certainly there, the IQ is certainly there, the will to win is certainly there and the warrior mentality is certainly there. Health and attitude are the only questions, and I only question the former.

@LRob,

I still say WAR 'was' a great band.(LOL) At any rate, here's a few more of my favs by them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5d0x-NtVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKKMdmPBWRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDOFb8eNLQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjEqKzCr9A
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@Wes,

Since you're into westerns, if you haven't seen it already, check out 'Open Range' with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall. It's prolly my all-time favorite of that genre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60wmgRH958Q


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

Lebron laughs at Laker fans so fascinated by a center who is hurt all the time.
Lebron thinks Laker fans should worry about the players who will actually be playing.
Lebron has also gotten a list of names of all GM's and will remember their irreverance.

THE KING HAS SPOKEN
LONG LIVE THE KING AND HIS DYNASTY
FOR HIS GOD IS A STERN GOD

RE: Bynum's Limited Minutes


(Apologies to all Bloggers, would have weighed in sooner, but life is m-a-d right now)

It is most likely a motivational technique being employed by one Zen Master, Phil Jackson. However, it could also be a realization, an acceptance of reality, if you will. He may be saying, "Heavy minutes just haven't worked out, our Championship teams feature more minutes for Odom anyhow." The folks opposed to this scenario would be Bynum and his circle and Jimmy Buss. I think everyone else, in Laker Land, would be cool with whatever produced wins. Jim Buss has lots riding on Bynum, it's his splashiest accomplishment to date, and for him to be poised to take over the franchise with Bynum being the only gold star on his term paper would most likely erode fan confidence in the team. not support, confidence.


Bynum would be against it because what 22 year old wants to be told he can only do the thing he's best at for a few minutes at a time. It's doubly frustrating for him because if Lamar and Kobe hadn't taken him out in back to back seasons he could be on a completely different career arch. But they did, so he's not.


My personal opinion that is that limited minutes, this year during the regular season, might be just the thing to allow him to strengthen his base. Limit the pounding, the running, the jumping in games and allow his body to just calm down. Multiple surgeries, all of them very invasive, will take a toll on a human body. I don't think it would have to be a career long move, but it might have to be done this year.


Come playoffs, re-evaluate, take it one step at a time. But this Laker core has proven that it can win a championship with out Bynum playing major minutes. I disagree with everyone who says that the Lakers can win it without Bynum on the court for some of the game throughout the playoffs. It won't happen. I also disagree that we need a full strength Bynum to take this squad all the way. We have a very deep team and that is why we'll go far in the NBA playoffs. One team member will not make or break this season except for Kobe Bryant.

DFish Sighting
glad i saw your post before MM deletes its lol.
yes we are so lucky. I liken Fish to Mike Ditka

Who wins
Lakers with only 4 players but one of them is Derek Fisher against Miami?

You say Fisher is playing
Yes

Lakers by 20.

That's my best DFish impersonation.

Hi Edwin - Hope everyone here is doing well?

That was something. Flagstaff had four very rare Tornadoes, but none were near our house, just the usual flash flood.

Web connection is still spotty. Very difficult for me to get on and comment.

Qwest says they may have an answer for me tommorrow. I will cross my fingers and pray to the Lakers God that they come through.

But I do have TV, so I will get to watch the game.

Go Lakers! Let's beat the Barcelonians!

Our season is in the balance as to whether we win or lose this game......haha

Fatty's game prediction according to my insider Ricky? Lakers win and Pau scores 82 points, maybe 102 pts if it goes to OT.

Posted by: Jamie | October 06, 2010 at 08:56 PM

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Props on a rational, well thought out post on Andrew Bynum. I really enjoyed your take on the issue.

@LakerTom - Best wishes on Mrs. LakerTom recovery.

@Edwin - I hope Satisfaction is indeed on the way.

@GDUB - Your War Rd 2 was just as strong as Rd 1.

@Jamie - Good take on the Bynum situation. I would probably add Gasol to the list with Kobe.

The Blitz Spin Zone. Why don't you have your lap dog comb the archives for one post where I have spoken about Bynum in the same vein as great Lakers centers from the past. We all hope he develops into that player, but I have never proclaimed him that. The skills are certainly there, the physique is certainly there, the size and length certainly there, the IQ is certainly there, the will to win is certainly there and the warrior mentality is certainly there. Health and attitude are the only questions, and I only question the former.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | October 06, 2010 at 08:36 PM
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See that's the point of the post is you would in fact throw your cookies when something non-positive is said about Andrew. Remember non positive doesn't automatically mean negative yet you go with your little name calling "Blitz Spin Zone" when you tried to shovel the idea that Bynum dominated Howard in Game 1 of the 2009 Finals and only used 1 quarter as a support or that one time where you said you would crush me with that post about Nick Van Exel. Basically if I'm a spin zone then you are the one who throws pointless arguments in a vain attempt to "crush me".

Oh that's right it matters not what happens in the "practice season" which in your vocabulary means the regular season when actually the games matter for home court advantage. Yea tell that to the rest of the 49ers fanbase. I'm sure they'll agree with dismissing the current season as "practice".

You know though MVP888 you really should stop with all the "Spin Zone". Makes you less of a mature person with that crappy name calling/labeling.

KobeMVP888,

you wrote: Why don't you have your lap dog comb the archives for one post where I have spoken about Bynum in the same vein as great Lakers centers from the past.

my response: lap dog? Ok. Is this the start of another war? Are we about to
start calling names again? Didn't we see where this went last time? Oddly
enough, maybe you should talk to LakerTom and ask him if maybe, at
sometime, did he ever mention Bynum is some sort of way as being in the
same vein as the great Lakers from the past.


you wrote: We all hope he develops into that player, but I have never proclaimed him that. The skills are certainly there, the physique is certainly there, the size and length certainly there, the IQ is certainly there, the will to win is certainly there and the warrior mentality is certainly there. Health and attitude are the only questions, and I only question the former.

my response: The skills are there?

As a player for the Overbrook Panthers, Chamberlain averaged 31 points during the 1953 high school season and led his team to a 71–62 win against the Northeast High School of his future NBA teammate Guy Rodgers. He scored 34 points, won Overbrook the Public League title and a berth for the Philadelphia city championship game against the winner of the rival Catholic league, West Catholic.[16] In that game, West Catholic triple-teamed Chamberlain the entire game, and despite the center's 29 points, the Panthers lost 54-42.[16]

[ wikipedia is your friend. ]

Bynum attended St. Joseph High School, in Metuchen, New Jersey during his junior and senior year. For his sophomore and freshmen year, he attended West Windsor Plainsboro High School North located in Plainsboro, NJ. He was in the 2005 McDonald's All-American game where he tallied 9 points and 5 rebounds.[4] In his junior year of high school Bynum averaged 16.0 points, 13.0 rebounds, and 6.0 blocks. As a senior, he averaged 22.4 points, 16.8 rebounds and 5.3 blocks per game.[5] During his junior and senior year at St. Joseph High School, Bynum finished his high school career averaging 19.2 points, 14.9 rebounds, and 5.6 blocks in 32 appearances.[6] He originally planned to attend the University of Connecticut; however, the 17-year-old made the decision to go directly into the NBA and made himself eligible for the 2005 NBA Draft, where he was selected by the Los Angeles Lakers.


Btw, earlier in your post you wrote: one post where I have spoken about Bynum in the same vein as great Lakers centers from the past.

my response: To simplify things, *THIS* is the lastest post where you
have spoken about Buynim in the same vein as gret Lakers centers
from the past. Are you *really* going to deny that you have said similar
things about Bynum in the past? *REALLY* ???

MM,

Can you moderate this blog and prevent all conversations/threads regarding
Andrew Bynum?

hobbitimage - If fans want to talk about Andrew Bynum, let them talk about Andrew Bynum so long as it's civil. I'm not going to start banning topic subjects

MM

I am so proud of Pau Gasol and all he has accomplished...

Just imagine how his fellow country men feel about him...I'm sure his 'hero' and 'role model' image is very important to him...

Pau you are a great ambassador for not only Laker fans but for Spain itself...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

Pau and Kobe having fun in Barcelona.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOAsoXJcAXA

If Bynum "thinks" he is a slow healer, or if he "thinks" he is injury prone, he may create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Maybe a to visit to someone like Tony Robbins and learning about NLP would help!
Wonder why Phil hasn't taught him this stuff.

More Kobe/Pow Gasol action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihwyZXXrdxQ

But this is my first place selection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYgE6Lh5qQ

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

ARISE MIGHTY LAKER NATION!! THE WORLD IS OURS!!!
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Good morning to The Crue’ ART, LROB & LEWSTRS Jammin in the Morning
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Good Morning Fabulous Justanothermambafan(Head of The Mamba Clan)
I hope the Dawn of these New Lakers Day Takes your dreadful Migrain away

If Bynum "thinks" he is a slow healer, or if he "thinks" he is injury prone, he may create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe a to visit to someone like Tony Robbins and learning about NLP would help! Wonder why Phil hasn't taught him this stuff.Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | October 07, 2010 at 03:54 AM
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Very good question Art I wonder as well!

BRETT FAVRE + RANDY MOSS = SUPERBOWL
Good Morning NewMexicoLL! How do you like my equation? LOL!
I think the Vikes are back in business now! As for the Bears the wheels are about to come off the Bus!

Nice links Lewsters.
Was that LO with the nifty between the legs pass at the 58 second mark?
Looks like maybe he would have picked up a charge though :)
Morning Mamba.

Good Morning Laker Fam,

Lew - Thanks for the sweet Gasol video...so this song is for Pau.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cKnTLrDbcw

And since the Lakers are in Spain today...had to represent with a fellow Spainard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mQJaXwGPlg

Mamba in the Morning,

Have a great day sir, but stop getting NewMexicoLL hopes up...

@LROB, My God man, does your musical knowledge know no bounds. Jazz, Rock, Hip Hop, Swing, Latin Soul on and on and on! Kudos sir for broadening the musical horizons of the Lakers Nation. Also you know as well as I that the Vikes are going to the Superbowl, you just dont want to admit it yet! LOL!

MRS. LAKER TOM GET WELL SOON & SAY A LITTLE PRAYER - BANDWAGON
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Mrs. LakerTom tore up her knee taking the granddaughters sledding. She tore her ACL, MCL,
& meniscus. She has now been rehabbing the knee for 6 months of unbelievable pain & misery.
After 6 months with 2 hours of supervised rehab every day but Sundays, Mrs. LakerTom can now
walk slowly with a limp but her doctor wants her to still minimize the walking. It will be a full 12
months before she will be able to go out on the basketball court and use her chicken flapping
arms defensive strategy to make you laugh so hard you can’t make a move. Believe me, it is
hard to shoot the ball when you are ROTFLYAO. As for pain, we still sleep with a pillow between
us to make sure I don’t punch or kick her while I’m having one of my dreams where I am attacked
by Bynum Bashers and lash out in self defense. JK. LOL. The pain though is incredible and
Mrs. LakerTom refuses to take the Percocets the doctor prescribed (so much the better for
LakerTom’s Justa-recommended Game Day Drinks.
*_________________________________________________________________*
(01) HTJ – OWNER - LakerTom - My best wishes to Mrs. LakerTom. Any chance of her joining Bynum's rehab team and cracking the whip a little?
(02) LROB – DRIVER - LakerTom - Best wishes on Mrs. LakerTom recovery.
(03) CYCBERCOSMIX – RIDING SHOTGUN1 - All the best to Mrs. LakerTom. How are things going with her rehab?
(04) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN2 – laker Tom, My prayers go with you and Mrs. LakerTom for
A speedy recovery
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Best wishes for a speedy recovery for Mrs. Laker Tom
(06) PHRED – Best wishes Mrs. Laker Tom
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN – Best wishes to Mrs. Laker Tom.
(08)

@Mamba - I hope you're right about Vikes. Wifey is native of Twin cities like New MexicoLL. So I'll be rooting for them also.

@Mamba - I hope you're right about Vikes. Wifey is native of Twin cities like New MexicoLL. So I'll be rooting for them also. Posted by: LRob | October 07, 2010 at 06:30 AM
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LRob you can root with the Mamba seal of approval that the Vikes WILL get to the SuperBowl. LOL! Now I said the Vikes were going to the Superbowl, I didn't say what they were going to do after they got there! LOL!

One more for the big Spainard. Top 10 hit on US charts in 74 if anyone remembers this beautiful song!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3BIX0duKs

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JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN GET WELL FROM YOUR MIGRAIN SOON - BANDWAGON
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I've got a massive migraine and the only news I really want to hear about is that everyone on the team is fully healed (or should I say healthy?) and ready to go! LOL! Call me unrealistic, but it's the only thing that will really make me feel better today....
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LTLL / MM / hobbit/Nation ….- thanks you guys - I really appreciate the well wishes. I just seem to be getting more & more of these things lately.... Oh well - nothing a start to the season won't cure (hopefully)!!
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(01) MARK MEDINA – BLOG GOD - Justa - Well perhaps the GM survey results cheered you up? I think what's most important is that YOU get healthy. Migraines are the worst and I hope you feel better
(02) MAMBA24 – OWNER – Justa hope you are feeling better soon. You know when one of the Mamba
Clan hurts we all hurts.
(03) RICK FRIEDMAN – DRIVER
(04) PHRED – RIDING SHOTGUN1
(05) WES – RIDING SHOTGUN2
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER- SECURITY - Justa - sorry to hear about your migraine. I get those too, and it's the worst. Feel better!
(07) HOBBITMAGE - Justanothermambafan, I hope your migrane clears up.
(08) CYBERCOSMIX - justa: Wow, these migraines must be rampant right now, I was suffering for migraines for a couple days, got real bad yesterday but my migraine is gone today. Hang in there, migraines really suck. What works for me is drinking lots of water, and avoiding bright light. Hope your goes away soon.
(09) LROB - Justa - Hope you feel better. Maybe this will help you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHybxGEcbZY
(10) NEWMEXICOLL - Justa...........I hope your migraine gets better, believe me they are no fun....especially if you have to work at the computer!!
(11)

For the Lakerholics that continue to dump on Drew, ask yourself this. would you like to play the Heat with Drew in the finals or Theo. The man is a blessing to you and you continue criticize him, OPEN YOUR EYES. When healthy he's one of the top three centers, hands down, we'll take him any day.

GO HEAT/GO LAKESHOW

Hello All,

I know this has already been hashed and rehashed in a previous thread, but due to limited internet access, I am forced to move forward with this slightly crass reposting.

There were a couple of posts on the MJ v. KB thread that I wanted to acknowledge:

@ronorri: I think you may have just put the whole "who is best" debate to bed. I'm not really sure, but I think everyone should read what you wrote. It was certainly that Lakers v. Celtics rivalry that saved the NBA. Nay, I say, that rivalry MADE the NBA. Jordan rode immediately (and I mean IMMEDIATELY) on Magic and Bird's coattails to his stardom -- his deification. You are spot on.

@Steve: Your handicapping, or you attempt at adjusting for differences between eras is maybe the most complete that has ever been posted on this blog. If we try to honestly adjust for the differences of the league and the types of game these two dudes play, you find that they are not that dissimilar at all. You also find that Kobe's role in any game he plays is much larger than the role Jordan has ever played in any game.

@MM: Sadism is a real and tangible quality of Jordan that absolutely should be part of the debate. Just like it is always a part of the debate surrounding Ty Cobb and Barry Bonds and others who would be GOATs.

@Rick: Thanks for having my and Staples24's backs when it came to including aspects of likability into the discussion of GOAT. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

--FEARless

Good morning Fam!

MAMBA24 - please put me on the "Justa feel better bandwagon".Justa: I hope the weekend is much kinder than the beginning of the week for you.

Edwin Gueco Never mind a faith healer, at his age Andrew should just go to the Playboy Mansion as much as possible. Posted by: KobeMVP888 | October 06, 2010 at 07:21 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!

MAMBA! Put me on the Justa get well bandwagon forthwith! Being a frequent sufferer myself, I know her pain! I know it! I would not wish that on my staunchest of enemies. Not even Paula Pierce. Not even LBJ himself. Not even!

I'm going to say a prayer as well. This has got to cease!

--FEARless

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JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN GET WELL FROM YOUR MIGRAIN SOON - BANDWAGON
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I've got a massive migraine and the only news I really want to hear about is that everyone on the team is fully healed (or should I say healthy?) and ready to go! LOL! Call me unrealistic, but it's the only thing that will really make me feel better today....
*_________________________________________________________________________*
LTLL / MM / hobbit/Nation ….- thanks you guys - I really appreciate the well wishes. I just seem to be getting more & more of these things lately.... Oh well - nothing a start to the season won't cure (hopefully)!!
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) MARK MEDINA – BLOG GOD - Justa - Well perhaps the GM survey results cheered you up? I think what's most important is that YOU get healthy. Migraines are the worst and I hope you feel better
(02) MAMBA24(AND THE MAMBA CLAN) – OWNER – Justa hope you are feeling better soon. You know when one of the Mamba Clan hurts we all hurts.
(03) RICK FRIEDMAN – DRIVER
(04) PHRED – RIDING SHOTGUN1
(05) WES – RIDING SHOTGUN2
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER- SECURITY - Justa - sorry to hear about your migraine. I get those too, and it's the worst. Feel better!
(07) HOBBITMAGE - Justanothermambafan, I hope your migrane clears up.
(08) CYBERCOSMIX - justa: Wow, these migraines must be rampant right now, I was suffering for migraines for a couple days, got real bad yesterday but my migraine is gone today. Hang in there, migraines really suck. What works for me is drinking lots of water, and avoiding bright light. Hope your goes away soon.
(09) LROB - Justa - Hope you feel better. Maybe this will help you... http://tinyurl.com/2tsu2n
(10) NEWMEXICOLL - Justa...........I hope your migraine gets better, believe me they are no fun....especially if you have to work at the computer!!
(11) FEARLESS - Put me on the Justa get well bandwagon forthwith! Being a frequent sufferer myself, I know her pain! I know it! I would not wish that on my Staunchest of enemies. Not even Paula Pierce. Not even LBJ himself. Not even! I'm going to say a prayer as well. This has got to cease!
(12) CALIPHILOSPHER - please put me on the "Justa feel better bandwagon".Justa: I hope the weekend is much kinder than the beginning of the week for you.

MAMBA! Also, put me on the Mrs. LakerTom Rehab Like Kobe bandwagon. No percocets! She is a stud-and-a-half! Much respect from FEARless.

--FEARless

Good Morning Nation...

LRob - Liked your Pau selections...BEP in the morning never hurts...

Here is my selection for Pau...from a fellow Latina...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJLZi0uyJw

Taking the morning off...just light paper work...getting ready for the Barcelona game...

Let's go Lakers...Hope we have an entertaining game...adn NO injuries...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation

#17 Coming Up!!!

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MRS. LAKER TOM GET WELL SOON & SAY A LITTLE PRAYER - BANDWAGON
*_________________________________________________________________*
Mrs. LakerTom tore up her knee taking the granddaughters sledding. She tore her ACL, MCL,
& meniscus. She has now been rehabbing the knee for 6 months of unbelievable pain & misery.
After 6 months with 2 hours of supervised rehab every day but Sundays, Mrs. LakerTom can now
walk slowly with a limp but her doctor wants her to still minimize the walking. It will be a full 12
months before she will be able to go out on the basketball court and use her chicken flapping
arms defensive strategy to make you laugh so hard you can’t make a move. Believe me, it is
hard to shoot the ball when you are ROTFLYAO. As for pain, we still sleep with a pillow between
us to make sure I don’t punch or kick her while I’m having one of my dreams where I am attacked
by Bynum Bashers and lash out in self defense. JK. LOL. The pain though is incredible and
Mrs. LakerTom refuses to take the Percocets the doctor prescribed (so much the better for
LakerTom’s Justa-recommended Game Day Drinks.
*_________________________________________________________________*
(01) HTJ – OWNER - LakerTom - My best wishes to Mrs. LakerTom. Any chance of her joining Bynum's rehab team and cracking the whip a little?
(02) LROB – DRIVER - LakerTom - Best wishes on Mrs. LakerTom recovery.
(03) CYCBERCOSMIX – RIDING SHOTGUN1 - All the best to Mrs. LakerTom. How are things going with her rehab?
(04) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN2 – laker Tom, My prayers go with you and Mrs. LakerTom for
A speedy recovery
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Best wishes for a speedy recovery for Mrs. Laker Tom
(06) PHRED – Best wishes Mrs. Laker Tom
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN – Best wishes to Mrs. Laker Tom.
(08) FEARLESS - put me on the Mrs. LakerTom Rehab Like Kobe bandwagon. No percocets! She is a stud-and-a-half! Much respect from FEARless.
(09)

Good Morning Blog,

I translated about half of this article posted in the "Diario MARCA" site.
Kobe and Pau played a little two on two against Rubio and Navarro yesterday.
Sorry I don't translate the rest but I got to get some work done.
Below you'll find a link to the youtube vid of the two on two the the link to "Diario Marca"

Video of Kobe and Pau against Rubio y Navarro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYZfH2aOEro

http://www.marca.com/2010/10/06/baloncesto/1286381312.html
From Marca:

Sunglasses and hoodie on --looking like Rockstar-- the Los Angles Lakers Kobe Bryan finally showed up at the “Raval” street court in Barcelona.
Hundreds of fans waiting for him. Most of them populating the stands around the court while some others strategically accommodated in the backstreets so they wouldn’t miss a single detail of the arrival of their idol.

Kobe made them all wait the same. It had been a while since Pau Gasol’s arrival and even more since Ricky Rubio and Juan Carlos Navarro had gotten there. The crowd, impatient had already lost all type of interest on those three, they were there waiting just for Bryant.

The five time champion arrived 30 minutes late, but was received by the loving crowd with MVP! MVP! Chants none the less.

Good to see Turiaf having a good preseason...

He was a blocking machine last night, with impressive blocks on Kevin Love, and Corey Brewer...

I miss Ronny...

@Mamba24...are you posting a Game Day Roll Call today...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation

#17 Coming Up!!!

Taking the morning off...just light paper work...getting ready for the Barcelona game...Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 07, 2010 at 07:57 AM
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You obviously have your priorities in the right place! LOL!

@Fearless, Good morning to you on this wonderful Laker morning!
@Caliphilosopher - Hey Cali how are the studies coming? Have a wonderful Lakers day!

You know though MVP888 you really should stop with all the "Spin Zone". Makes you less of a mature person with that crappy name calling/labeling.

Posted by: KB Blitz | October 07, 2010 at 12:13 AM
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I don't mind that. Would you prefer it if I flat out called you a liar? I might defend Andrew Bynum and believe that he has a great future in this league, but you tend to lump me in with everything LT says. So please quit deliberately distorting the truth (aka a "spin") OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Thank you.

@Mamba24...are you posting a Game Day Roll Call today...
Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 07, 2010 at 08:00 AM
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YES SIR! ALREADY POSTED!

The five time champion arrived 30 minutes late, but was received by the loving crowd with MVP! MVP! Chants none the less.Posted by: Outsidergua | October 07, 2010 at 07:59 AM
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GOD AINT IT GRAND BEING A LAKER FAN?...YESSSSSSS!!!!

Barring injuries to Kobe & Paul, we are winning the championship this year.
RESPONSE: NOT WITHOUT BYNUM THE BEAST BUT ONLY IF…I MEAN IF…
But I suppose 13ppg and 7rpg classifies as "dominating". I didn't know that when it comes to Bynum that 1 point usually would mean 2 points and that 1 rebound is credited as 1.5 rebounds.

RESONSE: OUT FREAKIN STANDING

If Bynum was HEALTHY, you'll see more touches and more minutes given to Bynum, which will result in better numbers.

RESPONSE: IF ……………. IF ONLY THE …. IF … ONLY IF…

i'm with the CyberCosmiX on this one. no need to bash Bynum or his supporters. anyone celebrating a Bynum failure is a failure as a Lakers fan, as a Bynum failure hurts the Lakers."

RESPONSE: NO NEED TO CRUCIFY BYNUM BASHERS AS WELL..

IF PIGS COULD FLY, MONKEY'S COULD TALK & IF BYNUM COULD TURN INTO A BEAST....

KB Blitz

"Oh that's right it matters not what happens in the "practice season" which in your vocabulary means the regular season when actually the games matter for home court advantage. Yea tell that to the rest of the 49ers fanbase. I'm sure they'll agree with dismissing the current season as "practice"."

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I have to laugh. You ask me not to say you "spin" things, yet here you are taking a team from another sport where they play only 16 regular season games and, on top of that, the team you choose has been a bottom feeder for quite some time now for the most part. If that's not a spin, what is?

Let me put this in perspective for you. The "practice season" applies to Phil Jackson's coaching methods for his championship caliber teams. During the course of the 82 regular season games, he refines, tweaks, experiments and otherwise puts his players in situations so that they are ready for every possible scenario in the Real Season, aka the playoffs. There's a reason he coaches during practices, but rarely calls timeouts or actually coaches much during the games. It is because he wants his players to work things out for themselves so they can build confidence, teamwork and chemistry. Tell me, how many so-call "big" regular season games did the Lakers win last season? By definition, the answer is ZERO because they are meaningless other than as a teaching tool to build chemistry and to gain a possible home court advantage in the playoffs. At this point, they aren't even confidence builders because this is already a confident bunch who even proved last season that they can flip the switch when need be. Phil Jackson's Lakers teams have notoriously looked entirely different in the playoffs.

If you want to compare the Lakers to teams in another sport, try baseball where they play 162 games. Perhaps you can compare them to the Phillies and Yankees. The difference there is that only 4 teams from each league make the playoffs, so there is an even greater urgency to win regular season games even though they play twice as many. The other difference is that basketball is the ultimate team sport that requires communication among every player on the court. In baseball, put a guy on the mound who is on like Roy Halladay was yesterday and you have a 99% chance of winning the game.

The "practice season" applies to the Lakers and now the Celtics because they are championship tested, championship caliber teams who now are more concerned with pacing themselves and refining their teamwork at both ends of the court during the 82 games. The Celtics were a #4 seed who won only 50 games last season. The Lakers, a team who many thought could challenge the Bulls' 72 win season, won only 57 regular season games. Much to your irritation, I will continue to refer to this season as the "practice season" and after losses you will hear me call them "meaningless."

As a side note, I don't ignore the practice season games and tune in just for the playoffs. I rarely miss a possession and I attend 12-14 games in the regular season. But I do sell the "big" regular season games at a rather large profit so I can attend the playoffs for next to nothing. After all, that's where championships are won.

Mr. Ebanks,
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Please don't advertise to the world that you can't spell. Please.
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It should be: Thanks Pau Gasol for taking care of dinner for us in your country.
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Not: THANKS PAU GASOL FOR TAKIN CARE OFF DINNER FOR US IN YOUR COUNTRY.
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Sigh.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

@Jon K.;

So people need to spell these days? Anazing, isn't it? College graduate.

Otis,
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Yeah... I mean, when I read these Twitter posts from professional athletes filled with the most basic spelling errors, I ask myself, "How did this guy get through college?"
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How did he get through HIGH SCHOOL?
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I mean, I got docked major points for spelling errors in high school and we're talking about words that are difficult to spell. What the heck is happening?
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I'm expected that the next trend/fad/tech revolution after Twitter will be "Grunter" where people will just communicate through grunts over the Internet as "tweeting" will become considered too intellectually high-faluting.
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Not awesome.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

Man what's up with LA? Can't get by the euro dogs??

Israel....Nice Video with Pau and Kobe!!
Mamba24 and LRob.........I still can't believe we got Moss back.. I really liked him and was very upset when he left!! I can't wait for the loonng ball. AP should be better too with them keying on Moss. LRob, you maybe told me, but where is your wife from again? We're from Mt.Lake a little town South of Mankato. The Lakers didn't win today, but with hardly any practice, it was not that bad.

I just looked at the box score for today's game against Barcelona. Every year, I tell myself that I'm not going to get worked up over the preseason, and every year I fail. At the end of the day, I couldn't care less if we lose our second preseason game with 1.5 starters out (Bynum/Kobe) to a euro team that's already into its regular season - don't care if the Spanish people see it as a referendum on Euro basketball. Come play us in June and see what happens. Playoff seasoned Lakers vs regular season Barcelona = easy Laker blowout. A couple of things worried me though, again based on the box score: Kobe = 2 of 15 (0 for 6 3p) and Pau = 2 of 21 (I think). If I'm not mistaken, Kobe missed 6 including a couple of 3 points in the MN game, too. He is apparently absolutely nowhere near close to ready for Oct 26. Is it the knee or something else? Pau is obviously very rusty, and I assume he'll play his way into shape. All in all though, this frankly doesn't seem like the regular season is going to start off too well. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just being a worry-wart.


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