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Matt Barnes acknowledges struggles with learning the triangle offense

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There was a tipping point at which Lakers forward Matt Barnes said he felt he asked too many questions, appeared tentative on where to move on the floor and wondered aloud why things weren't clicking.

"This is the most thinking I've had to do about playing," Barnes said he remarked to a teammate during Tuesday's practice. "I feel like a robot sometimes because I don't really want to do something wrong."

By his own admission, Barnes' insecurity stems from the fact that he's not fully grasping the triangle offense. However, Lakers fans shouldn't overreact so early into the preseason and conclude that Barnes, who's joining his seventh team by signing a two-year, $3.6-million deal, won't grasp the concepts as quickly as another Lakers free-agent pickup: backup point guard Steve Blake. They also shouldn't believe Barnes will go through a frustrating learning curve, much like Lakers forward Ron Artest did last season. And it's too speculative to claim that Barnes' upcoming court case on Oct. 18 -- in connection to his off-season arrest on suspicion of domestic violence -- has distracted him from his studies.

It's frankly too early to make such assessments as the Lakers enter their third exhibition game, Wednesday at 7 p.m. in Las Vegas against the Sacramento Kings, particularly because a snapshot of Barnes' 4.5 points per game on 40% shooting in 16.5 minutes doesn't reveal much.

Sure, how quickly Barnes masters the triangle will determine whether he can fulfill the reasons Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak acquired him. Barnes' defensive toughness makes for what he calls a "dangerous combination" with Kobe Bryant and Artest. His 6-foot-7, 226-pound frame and playing history provide practical reasons why Barnes could play at multiple positions, including shooting guard, small forward and power forward. And Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said it's conceivable Barnes may play with the first unit at times, considering the team's hope that Artest won't have to shoulder as many minutes this season and Luke Walton's current absence due to a strained right hamstring.

I actually found that Barnes' brief interview with reporters after Tuesday's practice was a good sign that he will become a good fit for the Lakers. He brought up his struggles without prompting, delivered them in a matter-of-fact tone and sounded incredibly pragmatic on how to improve.

"The offense is coming," Barnes said. "I just need to learn the counters. Everyone here is so accustomed to the offense. When they make a certain move that's not really drawn up, I have a problem recognizing that. I think it's going to come with some time."

So it isn't a matter of Barnes not understanding the system itself. He's nailed that part down. It's just that the triangle operates on reads and where everyone moves on the floor. He's already mastered the offense assuming everyone would make the same pass, cut in the same direction and end with the same shooter on every single play. But the offense doesn't work that way, meaning that Barnes, and any newcomer for that matter, constantly needs to be aware of the necessary adjustments should their teammates react differently in the system because of a defensive tendency.

Barnes has tried to remedy the confusion by constantly watching videotape, looking at the playbook and asking questions of his teammates and the coaching staff, a tactic that shows he's as honest about his struggles with the team as he was Tuesday with the media. That approach certainly contrasts with the way Artest dealt with his insecurity last season. Though he showed a genuine effort in wanting to grasp the system, he downplayed his weakness for most of the season to reporters and, more important, appeared afraid to ask too many questions out of fear that the team would grow frustrated with him. The Lakers showed understanding in helping Artest out, but he put so much pressure on himself as the team's lone new arrival that he didn't want to cause trouble. (On a related note, I came across this clip in which former Laker Gary Payton last season passionately defended Artest).

As a result, Artest often moved aimlessly on offense and would literally remove himself from the system by standing idly in the corner. This caused two problems. Because the triangle offense is predicated on balanced movement and spacing on the floor, Artest didn't avoid mistakes by disconnecting himself. The offense simply went out of whack. Second, Artest mostly shot the ball whenever he was open because his instincts told him to take any shot available. Instead, he should have waited more patiently for better opportunities to open up, a hard concept to follow if you're not really grasping the system.

Barnes made it clear he'd avoid any of those problems from happening by overcoming the learning curve before the Lakers' regular-season opener against the Houston Rockets on Oct. 26.

"Once the season starts, I don't want there to be any offensive letdown as far as not really knowing the offense," he said. "I ask the players and coaches questions at any time, and they all help. I appreciate that."

That's not to say Barnes will or should be expected to entirely solve the mystery that is the triangle offense come late October. He has the luxury, after all, of being a bench player; his main function involves defense and providing a spark plug, and he's not even close to the top on the scoring list totem pole. But he at least needs to understand the triangle enough so that he's not throwing a wrench into the system.

At least by how he's approached the learning process thus far, I'd expect minimal hiccups.

Said Barnes: "That's what practice is for."

-- Mark Medina
Twitter.com/latmedina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Matt Barnes dribbles a basketball during a video session at media day at the Toyota Sports Center. Credit: Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times

 
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Good morning CRUE!

Here was my musical interlude on the way in to work this morning. Hope you enjoy!

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Gdub - my condolences on the loss of your uncle... Hope you and your are all as ok as you can be under the circumstances.


Good morning CRUE!

Here was my musical interlude on the way in to work this morning. Hope you enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgeYpbAA71o

Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 13, 2010 at 08:24 AM
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Badhu, Now you talking Sister!!! And Good Morning to you!



Good morning CRUE!

Here was my musical interlude on the way in to work this morning. Hope you enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgeYpbAA71o

Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 13, 2010 at 08:24 AM
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Badhu, Now you talking Sister!!! And Good Morning to you!


Good morning everyone... it's a happy day, so some happy-go-lucky music:

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@WES… Just wanted to throw my vote for MY 5 favorite Westerns: (1) McCabe & Mrs. Miller, (2) Silverado, (3) Quigley Down Under, (4) The Quick and the Dead, (5) The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
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Never forget John Ford's Cavalry trilogy or Hawks' "Red River." The opening act of Butch & Sundance is a must-see as well.

@LAKERTOM You are too kind sir! Thank you! And in honor of our practice game tonight this is for you: http://tinyurl.com/l5a2pf

The opening act of Butch & Sundance is a must-see as well.
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You got that right 63 Footer. I always forget about Butch & Sundance!

Oh, and I'm a big fan of Richard Brooks' "The Professionals" & "Bite the Bullet" as well.

Just wanted to throw my vote for MY 5 favorite Westerns: (1) McCabe & Mrs. Miller, (2) Silverado, (3) Quigley Down Under, (4) The Quick and the Dead, (5) The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.Posted by: LakerTom | October 13, 2010 at 08:34 AM
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I couldn't disagree with any of your selections. I must have somehow missed #3 on your list, never heard of it.

@MAMBA24…. That might be why AI will be playing in Turkey this year. Loved the half point they gave him
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@MAMBA24…. That might be why AI will be playing in Turkey this year. Loved the half point they gave himPosted by: LakerTom | October 13, 2010 at 08:43 AM
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LMAO!! That's terrible! LOL!

BUMMER...I have one of those disappearing posts...I will try to rewrite, but probably won't be like original...

Good Morning Nation...

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@LRob - Very busy today...here is something to get you going this morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztoSUhbNntQ

@justa - My morning Haiku entry

New Lakers Bench Mob...
Stronger, deeper and hungry...
Mitch locked and loaded...

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@MM - On that LO clip, when he did his shimmy move, who was #4, was that LeBron...

Have a great Wednesday all...can't wait for tomorrow and I get to watch our boys live...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

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@Mamba24 - This is for your precious one on her B-Day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztoSUhbNntQ
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THE BEATLES, YES! Thank you so much kind sir. I too have experienced a couple of those disappearing post this morning.

Lew - It's good, grasshopper. Justa not great - not yet.


Also - Princess wasn't dressed - she was spectating on the sidelines watching LO to see how it's done. In fact, I have it on good authority that princess actually stole a LOT of her moves from LO and the gang that day...


How'd you like my Erykha entry? :)

How'd you like my Erykha entry? :)Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 13, 2010 at 08:54 AM
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Quite Nice! That all you got?

Mamba24 - aww hell no - got a lot of Badu on my iPod. What you wanna hear? LOL!

I think Other Side of the Game is my fav, but she's so talented it's hard to choose just one. I also love Apple Tree, On and On, Next Lifetime.....!!

Of course - always fun is Pick Your Afro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7z7tjzrp0Q

@MAMBA… Quigley Down Under is just a great western. Tom Selleck is sharpshooter Matt Quigley who is hired from Montana by Elliott Marston (Alan Rickman) to come to Australia. Little does Quigley know that what Marston has hired him for is to shoot and kill Aborigines on his land who have become smart enough to stay out of the normal rifle range. There is a great romantic story with the sexy Laura San Giacomo and one of the best gunfighter showdowns at the end between Selleck and Rickman, who is terrific as the villain.
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@MAMBA… Quigley Down Under is just a great western. Tom Selleck is sharpshooter Matt Quigley who is hired from Montana by Elliott Marston (Alan Rickman) to come to Australia. Little does Quigley know that what Marston has hired him for is to shoot and kill Aborigines on his land who have become smart enough to stay out of the normal rifle range. There is a great romantic story with the sexy Laura San Giacomo and one of the best gunfighter showdowns at the end between Selleck and Rickman, who is terrific as the villain. vPosted by: LakerTom | October 13, 2010 at 09:06 AM
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Thanks LakerTom I'll be on the look out for it the next time I go Bootleg DVD shopping! :)

David Stern looks like Master Yoda.

Of course - always fun is Pick Your Afro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7z7tjzrp0Q Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 13, 2010 at 09:04 AM
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Yes, yes this is very good. I once had a similiar one myself believe it or not. Now that we have established your Erykha credentials, go to LRob and he will give you a pass certifying you at Badhu level 2 cred.

"This is the most thinking I've had to do about playing," Barnes said he remarked to a teammate during Tuesday's practice.

And this is why Lamar Odom struggled for years, why Artest never seemed to get it, and why Barnes was doomed to struggle. Most athletes don't think. The few NBA players I actually knew reinforced my belief.

PJ is not an ordinary coach to say the least. This offense is the product of an intellectual and he demands that athletes (sometimes the antithesis of intellectual) to implement it.

But this is also what gives the Lakers their biggest advantage. Assuming you have the pieces (!) it can give fits to the defense for this precise reason. Defenses, in general, always give you something - the smart and thinking player will understand where these vulnerabilities lie and exploit them.

"Take what the defense gives you" sounds simple enough, especially when thinking one on one. When you expand this concept to the aggregate, it takes true teamwork. This is why Barnes hasn't thought this much before. Not to fear, once he learns, he'll have it.... but we all know, that can take a while.

If he works HARD at it, he'll get it. If he worries about other stuff, he won't.

David Stern looks like Master Yoda. Posted by: p ang | October 13, 2010 at 09:11 AM
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LMAO!! I'll be DAMNED! He does doesn't he? But don't be fooled young p ang! Darth Stern deals with the Dark side of the Force. The man is Evil incarnate. Many have been fooled by that Master Yoda look but beneath it lies the face of a vile wicked Demon. Woe unto those who fall under his spell, just ask the Princess Jimmy. A pleasent enough child, for years people were able to tolerate the young Biatch. But then she fell under Darth Sterns spell and look at the Princess Biatch today. Take caution from that! That ISH could happen to you.

DBDH here... been a little under the weather, but still hitting up the blog. Keep it going, y'all. I can almost smell the regular season... wait, that sounded gross. You know what I mean.


DBDH [cough, cough, gurgle]

DBDH - hope you feel better soon. The start of the season is almost upon us, and we'll need all the regulars at full strength! (Have you tried Airborne? Good stuff.....)

LRob, LakerTom,
Do you remember these hits?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMc8naeeSS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsW8rXPcnM0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hdx9JjzDfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB17uWuBrL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | October 12, 2010 at 08:39 PM

Great line up man...here is my reply...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLfoQfmSQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dsh9M6qnhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOf0FsA0Fio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgYuLsudaJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt75y38J00s


Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 12, 2010 at 09:36 PM

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Lewstrs,
Outstanding reply, all great tunes. Do you know what Hotel California is about? Met Stevie Nicks and just as cute and sexy as her photos and vids.

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GET WELL SOON DON'T BLAME DEL HARRIS - BANDWAGON
*___________________________________________________________*
DBDH here... been a little under the weather, but still hitting up the blog.
Keep it going, y'all. I can almost smell the regular season... wait, that
sounded gross. You know what I mean.
*___________________________________________________________*
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - DBDH - hope you feel better soon.
The start of the season is almost upon us, and we'll need all the regulars at full
strength! (Have you tried Airborne? Good stuff.....)
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - DBDH - Get well soon my Brothers. We need that
quick wit of yours here Full Time!!
03) Phred - RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) #4
(05) JAMIE SWEET
(06) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN
(08) LAKER LASS


(

Lewstrs,
Outstanding reply, all great tunes. Do you know what Hotel California is about? Met Stevie Nicks and just as cute and sexy as her photos and vids.

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | October 13, 2010 at 09:37 AM

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Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame:

I sold her some Qualudes...lmao

JUSTALAKERFAN IN THE HOUSE JAMMIN FOLKS!!!!

Mamba24,
Don't forget me on bandwagon.

REPOST
I'm doin' catch up on the threads coz I've been kinda busy makin' funeral arrangements for my 87 year old Uncle who transitioned to the ancestry last Wednesday. Anyhoo...

Posted by: G in DC(aka GDUB) | October 12, 2010 at 08:36 PM
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my condolences on the loss of your uncle and although posted earlier i will dedicate this song for your ancestors transition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | October 12, 2010 at 09:04 PM

Mamba 24, wish your Baby G. Christina, a happy, happy birthday. I'm sure she is lovely, wonderful, and beautiful!

Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame: I sold her some Qualudes...lmao Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 13, 2010 at 09:42 AM
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LEWSTRS!!!!! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!! LMAO!

Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame: I sold her some Qualudes...lmao Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 13, 2010 at 09:42 AM
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LEWSTRS!!!!! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!! LMAO!


Posted by: mamba24 | October 13, 2010 at 09:44 AM

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Now that's funny!

LEWSTRS - "Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame: I sold her some Qualudes..."

Jeeze, LEWSTRS... who didn't?


I kid, I kid!

That Gary Payton video was very interesting. Gary seems to respect Phil Jackson a lot while at the same time inferring that the reason why Gary Payton didn't thrive in the Triangle was because of Gary Payton.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

Lewstrs,
Since you did not mention Hotel California the song was about the Illuminati and the the sub branch known as the Bohemian Club because they had their annual meeting at the Bohemian Grove. They worshipped a large stone/metal owl in the woods and its members were former presidents and politicians and bankers etc.
Look up Bohemian Grove and then listen to lyrics!

GDUB, deepest sympathy.


DBDH, get well pronto.

Mamba 24, wish your Baby G. Christina, a happy, happy birthday. I'm sure she is lovely, wonderful, and beautiful! Posted by: Laker J | October 13, 2010 at 09:44 AM
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Thank you Laker J you are too kind and yes she is lovely, wonderful and beautiful. Here's a pic. http://tinyurl.com/2cn5akm

LMAO @ you guys...I had many dreams about Stevie...;-)

@justa - man that's a hell of an afro...cutie though...

Man my seats suck for tomorrow's game...but gotta represent...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

"Man my seats suck for tomorrow's game...but gotta represent..."
LEW, do you mean for TODAY'S game?, or is there a game tomorrow?

@ GDUB - My sympathies, stay strong bruh...

@ JustaLakerFan - thanks...I forgot to ask you...interesting, I will have to read up on that...Hotel California was my song to check out speakers, like America was to Laker Tom...

@ DBDH - Get better soon my friend...

@ 63 Footer - The weirdest musician I met was Rod Stewart...talk about way out there...

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GDUB CONDOLENCES ON THE LOSS OF YOUR UNCLE – BANDWAGON
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I'm doin' catch up on the threads coz I've been kinda busy makin' funeral arrangements for my 87 year old Uncle who transitioned to the ancestry last Wednesday. Anyhoo... Posted by: G in DC(aka GDUB) | October 12, 2010 at 08:36 PM
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - Gdub - my condolences on the loss of your
uncle... Hope you and your are all as ok as you can be under the circumstances.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - GDUB MPrayers go out to you and your Family at this time of your loss. Stay strong Brother!!
(03) Phred - RIDING SHOTGUN - Condolences to your Family
(04) #4
(05) JAMIE SWEET
(06) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN
(08) LAKER LASS
(09) JUSTALAKERFAN –DRIVER - my condolences on the loss of your uncle and although posted earlier i will dedicate this song for your ancestors transition.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
(10) LAKER J - GDUB, deepest sympathy.
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*___________________________________________________________*
GET WELL SOON DON'T BLAME DEL HARRIS - BANDWAGON
*___________________________________________________________*
DBDH here... been a little under the weather, but still hitting up the blog.
Keep it going, y'all. I can almost smell the regular season... wait, that
sounded gross. You know what I mean.
*___________________________________________________________*
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - DBDH - hope you feel better soon.
The start of the season is almost upon us, and we'll need all the regulars at full
strength! (Have you tried Airborne? Good stuff.....)
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - DBDH - Get well soon my Brothers. We need that
quick wit of yours here Full Time!!
03) Phred - RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) #4
(05) JAMIE SWEET
(06) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN
(08) LAKER LASS
(09) JUSTA LAKERFAN –
(10) LAKER J - DBDH, get well pronto.



Mamba24, thanks for the roll call, it never fails to bring a smile to my face when I see my name included in the shout out (yayy!) I haven;t participated very much the last couple of weeks, been lurking and reading, mostly. But it's great to see everyone so excited with the pre-season games and the start of the regular season. I did not get a chance to see the games played in Europe but will definitely try and get my first glimpse of the Lakers against Sacramento.


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And this is why Lamar Odom struggled for years, why Artest never seemed to get it, and why Barnes was doomed to struggle. Most athletes don't think. The few NBA players I actually knew reinforced my belief.

"Take what the defense gives you" sounds simple enough, especially when thinking one on one. When you expand this concept to the aggregate, it takes true teamwork. This is why Barnes hasn't thought this much before. Not to fear, once he learns, he'll have it.... but we all know, that can take a while.

Posted by: Tim-4-Show | October 13, 2010 at 09:16 AM


Excellent points, Tim. I too believe that most athletes rely on their strength, quickness, and athleticism to rise to the top of their game. They put a lot of practice into their motor movements to the point it becomes totally ingrained and second nature. So when they are given a task like learning the triangle offense and are forced to think while moving, they face what's known in cognitive psychology as "negative learning". Meaning they need to unlearn a few things before they can learn the new concepts. This is quite similar to driving on the other side of the road when you go to a foreign country. Not impossible but you gotta unlearn old habits. It's confusing at first, but pretty soon, the changes will become second nature as well.

Excellent points, Tim. I too believe that most athletes rely on their strength, quickness, and athleticism to rise to the top of their game. They put a lot of practice into their motor movements to the point it becomes totally ingrained and second nature. So when they are given a task like learning the triangle offense and are forced to think while moving, they face what's known in cognitive psychology as "negative learning". Meaning they need to unlearn a few things before they can learn the new concepts. This is quite similar to driving on the other side of the road when you go to a foreign country. Not impossible but you gotta unlearn old habits. It's confusing at first, but pretty soon, the changes will become second nature as well. Posted by: Seely_Iggy | October 13, 2010 at 10:02 AM
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Now that is a Beautiful explanation!! It is also...OUT FREAKIN STANDING MA'AM!!!!!!
Oh and thank you so much!

LEWSTRS - I ran into Rod a few times (and used him once on a show); he is a strange cat, but has the Immortal Haircut... unchanged by glacial epochs or anything.

I think the "oddest" duck I ever ran into (in a musician's sense) might be either Colonel Bruce Hampton (Hampton Dirt Band, Aquarium Rescue Unit), or Wesley Willis (grabbed him for a series as well - hey, give me an inch, and I'll take a mile; didn't quite work out though).

This is quite similar to driving on the other side of the road when you go to a foreign country. Not impossible but you gotta unlearn old habits. It's confusing at first, but pretty soon, the changes will become second nature as well.

Posted by: Seely_Iggy | October 13, 2010 at 10:02 AM


This is one of the best analogies I've heard, when it comes to learning the Triangle O. Phil needs to let his players drive during the next trip to Europe. :-)

Seely_Iggy - great points (well-stated, too)... except when applied to Luke, who, having no strength, quickness or athleticism, has no ingrained second nature. He's the anomaly (and my new nickname for Luke: The Anomaly).

Again, just pickin' on the guy while he's down: better him than me.


Do you remember these hits?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMc8naeeSS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsW8rXPcnM0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hdx9JjzDfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB17uWuBrL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | October 12, 2010 at 08:39 PM
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AWESOME!!

@mamba24 - I wish your baby girl all the happiness in the world!!!

Seely_Iggy

Justa 'nother example of why the REAL Laker Girls are so dang awesome!

hmmmm

MM seems to be MIA this morning.....

MM's out practicing that Lamar move and won't be back until he's perfected it... which may be awhile.

Justa 'nother example of why the REAL Laker Girls are so dang awesome! Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 13, 2010 at 10:13 AM
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THERE WAS NEVER ANY DOUBT!!!!!

G Dub - I'm sorry to hear about your uncle's passing. I hope you and the family hold up given the circumstances. As you can see in the messages on this thread, you will be in our thoughts

Who posted Rocky Mountain Way? Great tune!

Here's my FAV by Joe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rxPSDUlvk

63 footer - yeah but can he do the Harlem Shake?

Morning everyone. Love the roll call Mamba. I do think it's a good sign that Barnes is not afraid to ask questions to try to learn a complicated system. Hope that now Artest doesn't have to shoulder the pressure of being the only newcomer that he'll continue to perfect the triangle as he was still throwing up some ill-advised shots in playoffs (not bashing Artest, love the guy, but he still has some room for improvement in learning where to get good quality shots in the triangle).

This freakin' team is going to be dangerous , folks! Can not wait!

justa - always a James Gang fan as well.

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GDUB CONDOLENCES ON THE LOSS OF YOUR UNCLE – BANDWAGON
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I'm doin' catch up on the threads coz I've been kinda busy makin' funeral arrangements for my
87 year old Uncle who transitioned to the ancestry last Wednesday.
Posted by: G in DC(aka GDUB) | October 12, 2010 at 08:36 PM
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(01) MARK MEDINA – BLOG GOD - G Dub - I'm sorry to hear about your uncle's
passing. I hope you and the family hold up given the circumstances. As you
can see in the messages on this thread, you will be in our thoughts
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - Gdub - my condolences on the loss of your
uncle... Hope you and your are all as ok as you can be under the circumstances.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - GDUB MPrayers go out to you and your Family at this time of your loss. Stay strong Brother!!
(03) Phred - RIDING SHOTGUN - Condolences to your Family
(04) #4
(05) JAMIE SWEET
(06) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN
(08) LAKER LASS
(09) JUSTALAKERFAN –DRIVER - my condolences on the loss of your uncle and although posted earlier i will dedicate this song for your ancestors transition.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
(10) LAKER J - GDUB, deepest sympathy.
(11) LEWSTRS - GDUB - My sympathies, stay strong bruh...

justa - "yeah but can he do the Harlem Shake?"

Okay, picturing MM doing the Harlem Shake made me laugh. A lot.

GDUB - good thoughts you and your family's way in this tough time.

Justa & Mamba: As stated on my Lakers Blog profile, I have a BA in Theatre from Grambling State University. The very first play I auditioned for up there, I got in. In that play, guess who played my sister?


Yep. Ms. "On & On" herself. She was as free spirited then as she is now. I doubt if she even remembers me, but I still claim her as my sister and I gleam with pride when I hear her songs on the radio.


LET US PRAY FOR G DUB:


Dear Lord, please be with G DUB and his family as they mourn the loss of his uncle. Give them the strength and freedom to grieve. Let them shed every tear. Let them moan, wail and cry in anguish. For You are a God who allows us to grieve. And after that season of grief, replace that pain with the cherished love & memories of the good times they shared together as family. Let those blessed memories be used by You to comfort G Dub and his family as they celebrate the time they shared with their loved one. Use this to draw G Dub and his family closer to You.


AMEN!

@Magic Phil, Good Morning sir how are you? Stop working so hard and take some time out for yourself to relax! You deserve it! Thank you for the nice sentiments for my daughter.

63 Footer,
In keeping with your train of thought, MM would be another great student of the Triangle. LOL! Get that Harlem Shake down Mark, we want video!

@JAMF… “Of course - always fun is Pick Your Afro!” LOL, Justa. I long ago destroyed any photo evidence but when I was a freshman at Berkeley in the 60’s, I actually had an afro around the size of the photo to go with my porn stache and bell bottoms. I still remember even Mrs. LakerTom doing the same thing for a Christmas party. Thank God there were no cell phone cameras back in the day. Bet Brett wishes that too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TOM

Mamba,

Just thought I'd buzz the tower on my fly by this morning and wish Christina a happy b-day.

And for my song selection I give you a piece of where I grew up and my favorite local artist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT_A9ps92No

hugs to Christina,

Lass

Justa & Mamba: As stated on my Lakers Blog profile, I have a BA in Theatre from Grambling State University. The very first play I auditioned for up there, I got in. In that play, guess who played my sister? Yep. Ms. "On & On" herself. She was as free spirited then as she is now. I doubt if she even remembers me, but I still claim her as my sister and I gleam with pride when I hear her songs on the radio.Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 13, 2010 at 10:27 AM
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WOW!!!!! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! utz you been holding out on us! LOL!

Justa - wasn't MIA. Just putting together the next post, which is up now....and of course, perfecting the harlem shake...

utzworld,
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Amen.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!


Mamba, Just thought I'd buzz the tower on my fly by this morning and wish Christina a happy b-day. And for my song selection I give you a piece of where I grew up and my favorite local artist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT_A9ps92No hugs to Christina,

Lass Posted by: LakerLass | October 13, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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Lass, is it really you. GET BACK TO WORK LASS! LOL! Wow this is nice Lass, as are you. I thank you again my friend and counselor and I shall convey your regards. Thank you! Now Lass...GET BACK TO WORK!!! LOL!
mamba

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GDUB CONDOLENCES ON THE LOSS OF YOUR UNCLE – BANDWAGON
*____________________________________________________________________*
I'm doin' catch up on the threads coz I've been kinda busy makin' funeral arrangements for my
87 year old Uncle who transitioned to the ancestry last Wednesday.
Posted by: G in DC(aka GDUB) | October 12, 2010 at 08:36 PM
*______________________________________-_____________________________*
(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - LET US PRAY FOR G DUB:
Dear Lord, please be with G DUB and his family as they mourn the loss of his uncle. Give them the
strength and freedom to grieve. Let them shed every tear. Let them moan, wail and cry in anguish.
For You are a God who allows us to grieve. And after that season of grief, replace that pain with the
cherished love & memories of the good times they shared together as family. Let those blessed
memories be used by You to comfort G Dub and his family as they celebrate the time they shared
with their loved one. Use this to draw G Dub and his family closer to You.
(02) MARK MEDINA – BLOG GOD - G Dub - I'm sorry to hear about your uncle's
passing. I hope you and the family hold up given the circumstances. As you
can see in the messages on this thread, you will be in our thoughts
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - Gdub - my condolences on the loss of your
uncle... Hope you and yours are all as ok as you can be under the circumstances.
(04) # 4
(05) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - GDUB My Prayers go out to you and your Family at this time of your loss.
Stay strong Brother!!
(06) Phred - RIDING SHOTGUN - Condolences to your Family
(07) JAMIE SWEET
(08) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(09) RICK FRIEDMAN
(10 LAKER LASS
(11) JUSTALAKERFAN –DRIVER - my condolences on the loss of your uncle and although posted earlier I dedicate this song for your ancestors transition.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320
(12 LAKER J - GDUB, deepest sympathy.
(13) LEWSTRS - GDUB - My sympathies, stay strong bruh...
(14) 63 FOOTER - GDUB - Good thoughts to you and your family's way in this tough time
(15) JON K. AMEN!!

Thanks for the kind words everyone, just sharing what I learn in school that's all, and applying it to my favorite team in the galaxy.

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Seely_Iggy - great points (well-stated, too)... except when applied to Luke, who, having no strength, quickness or athleticism, has no ingrained second nature. He's the anomaly (and my new nickname for Luke: The Anomaly).

Again, just pickin' on the guy while he's down: better him than me.


Posted by: 63 Footer | October 13, 2010 at 10:11 AM

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Don't worry 63 Footer, in the analogy I used, Luke's one of those people who'll go up the highway using the wrong ramp and then we'll never have to worry about his contract anymore. Sheesh..... I'm being mean, aren't I?

Don't worry 63 Footer, in the analogy I used, Luke's one of those people who'll go up the highway using the wrong ramp and then we'll never have to worry about his contract anymore. Sheesh..... I'm being mean, aren't I? Posted by: Seely_Iggy | October 13, 2010 at 10:55 AM
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Seely_Iggy mean?...NEVER!!!!!!!

Maybe Barnes' confusion regarding the triangle can be traced to his not yet realizing that in fact the Lakers don't really run the triangle all that much.

(Derek Fisher said so himself in this space last year, so if anyone's a hater, it's Derek, not me.)

And I might add: Especially when Kobe is on the court.

Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame:

I sold her some Qualudes...lmao

Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 13, 2010 at 09:42 AM
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You're my hero. Did you stick around until they took effect?

jimjoyce - I'm going to have to disagree with your take on how often the Lakers run the triangle. Derek, other teammates and Phil himself acknowledged a resistance to the triangle, but that doesn't mean they weren't running it. Kobe, and some other players, run in isolation but that's never a set play. It's basically reactive to what they see is going on defensively. So to say they rarely run the triangle is a misnomer. The Lakers run isolation frequently enough, but it's all circumstantial, which is kind of the philosophy behind the triangle, anyway.

MM

Stevie Nicks was a total hottie...my claim to fame:

I sold her some Qualudes...lmao

Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 13, 2010 at 09:42 AM

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Now that should be RCOTD!

Mamba24,
Dude I am so sorry I was half asleep and didn't wish your daughter a very happy birthday. May she enjoy and wish each one is better than the last.


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