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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 98-95 preseason victory over Sacramento Kings

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-- The Times' Broderick Turner assesses Kobe Bryant's recovery process in the Lakers' 98-95 preseason victory over the Sacramento Kings.

-- True Hoop's J.A. Adande explains how Ron Artest has become a stabilizing force during Bryant's rehabilitation process.

-- The Times Picayune's Andrew Astleford highlights Magic Johnson's charitable efforts.

-- The Orange County Register's Janis Carr sizes up the best defensive players in Lakers history.

-- The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding highlights Jeanie Buss' contention that Phil Jackson is the worst NBA coach during the exhibition season.

-- The Sacramento Bee's Jason Jones details Tyreke Evans' left ankle injury.

-- ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky highlights three positive and negative traits from the Lakers' win.

-- ESPN.com's Rick Reilly sizes up the Kobe-LeBron James matchup.

-- Lakers.com's Mike Trudell provides his running diary of the game.

-- The Orange County Register's Mark Whicker looks at who Bryant still has to surpass on the NBA's all-time scoring list.

-- Forum Blue and Gold's Jeff Skibiski provides his post-game thoughts of the Lakers-Kings game.

-- Lakers of Fire's Garrett Wilson breaks down Lamar Odom's game.

-- Lakers Nation's Daniel Buerge provides another running diary of the Lakers-Kings exhibition game.

Tweet of the Day: "Fish curls over and hits jumper to start game in Vegas. Everyone on Lakers bench applauds except Sasha, who is fixing his hair." -- KevinDing (Orange County Register's Kevin Ding)

Reader Comment of the Day: "Kobe doesn't look very good...well, that's pre-season, right? Perfect time to not look good... But Barnes, Ebanks, Shannon, Artest, Pau and (why not) Blake were very good, nice surprise! Ratliff too. Lamar was good, but not a surprise. Very nice to see the bench taking over in the 1st quarter and holding its own." -- Magic Phil

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ATHLETICISM IS OVERRATED !!!
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I’ve always believed athleticism is overrated. It’s why so many basketball fans and analysts today are overly enamored with LeBron James. It’s why so many young fans today do not give NBA stars from earlier eras the credit and respect they deserve It’s why Magic Johnson and Larry Bird won championships while Dominique Wilkins and Allen Iverson never did. It’s why LeBron James will never be Kobe Bryant, why Randy Moss will never be Jerry Rice, why Michael Vick will never be Drew Brees, and why Andrew Bynum may someday be a better NBA center than Dwight Howard. Whether it’s a 40” vertical leap, a 100 MPH fast ball, or a 4.3 second 40, athleticism without skills, smarts, and work ethic is no guarantee of greatness in pro sports.
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TOM


LakerTom: "I’ve always believed athleticism is overrated. It’s why so many basketball fans and analysts today are overly enamored with LeBron James. It’s why so many young fans today do not give NBA stars from earlier eras the credit and respect they deserve It’s why Magic Johnson and Larry Bird won championships while Dominique Wilkins and Allen Iverson never did. It’s why LeBron James will never be Kobe Bryant, why Randy Moss will never be Jerry Rice, why Michael Vick will never be Drew Brees, and why Andrew Bynum may someday be a better NBA center than Dwight Howard. Whether it’s a 40” vertical leap, a 100 MPH fast ball, or a 4.3 second 40, athleticism without skills, smarts, and work ethic is no guarantee of greatness in pro sports."

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Absolutely right on. The current lebron vs Kobe discussion is the perfect example. Has there EVER been a better 'NBA Body' than lebron? lebron has quickness, strength, leaping ability - but merely 'good-to-great' skillset - hovering somewhere below all-star level in my view.

It is not only his size that hinders his skills, he is stilted when he dribbles, not smooth like Magic was (who was an inch or two higher). When he gets out on a break, he heads to the basket like a locomotive, merely relying on his athleticism to out speed defenders to the rim, to out jump them, to out muscle them in getting a shot up. It is brutish basketball.

I think that lebron has always gotten by being a superior athlete, so never gave much work to refining his skills and game. That's why he's partying, marketing, just hanging out when others are gym rats, to try to compete with the lebrons of the NBA world.

Very few professional athletes were both ultra-athletic, as well as very skilled. Bo Jackson comes to mind, and there is no way that lebron is in Bo's league.

If lebron had only 50% of the game that AI had, he'd be considered GOAT right now. I think he has about as much game as say Hedo Turkoglu - and probably as much dedication as Hedo too - that is why his athleticism gets him by as a great regular season talent, but he regularly diminishes in the playoffs when skills win out...


GO LAKERS!!!!!


MJ was the NBA poster boy for athleticism. If that's the definition of the word, Magic comes up a bit short only because he didn't fly. He was quick, had impeccable footwork, ball handling, strength and agility... and all the rest of the list that fills out the definition of the word "athletic".

And, as Laker Tom says, it's overrated. Magic just won, on every level. There's a word for that too. GOAT.

WOW...


Thanks MM for the RCOTD!!


I'm honored to receive the Friedman award....

VMan: "Magic just won, on every level. There's a word for that too. GOAT."

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From your lips to gods ears. Magic was the leader of the finest team(s) in NBA history, the showtime-era Lakers, in the most competitive decade the NBA has ever seen, and all he did was win.

Would MJ have had 6 rings - or even 4 rings - during the '80's? He came into the league in '84 and didn't win until '91, when the great teams in the era had all but disbanded.

MJ might be #1 on most lists, but I think TRUE basketball fans must look at Magic as GOAT (and reserve a spot in the top-3 for Wilt too).

But Kobe is climbing the charts as we speak.....


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Congrats Magic Phil - a well-deserved RCOTD.

Is anyone concerned about Kobe's shot (or lack thereof, lol)?


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Laker fan-

Nice to see this years "classy" addition to your roster, Matt Barnes, is in mid season form!

This could be the Lakers' song for defeating the Celtics, Gasol's song for overcoming Garnett, Ron Ron's song for conquering his past, PJ for passing Red and Kobe for eliminating the dark years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFGgbT_VasI&p=851EBAA03091B0DE&playnext=1&index=29

Wes

ESPN best lakers starting five

Magic
Kobe
Baylor
Pau
kareem

Next game. Best starting five in Jackson´s teams?

My picks:

Kobe
MJ
Pippen
Pau
Shaq

ATHLETICISM IS OVERRATED !!!
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I’ve always believed athleticism is overrated. It’s why so many basketball fans and analysts today are overly enamored with LeBron James. It’s why so many young fans today do not give NBA stars from earlier eras the credit and respect they deserve It’s why Magic Johnson and Larry Bird won championships while Dominique Wilkins and Allen Iverson never did. It’s why LeBron James will never be Kobe Bryant, why Randy Moss will never be Jerry Rice, why Michael Vick will never be Drew Brees, and why Andrew Bynum may someday be a better NBA center than Dwight Howard. Whether it’s a 40” vertical leap, a 100 MPH fast ball, or a 4.3 second 40, athleticism without skills, smarts, and work ethic is no guarantee of greatness in pro sports.
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TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | October 14, 2010 at 08:53 AM
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And why Billy Ray Bates could never be Dr. J!

ATHLETICISM IS OVERRATED !!!
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I’ve always believed athleticism is overrated. It’s why so many basketball fans and analysts today are overly enamored with LeBron James. It’s why so many young fans today do not give NBA stars from earlier eras the credit and respect they deserve It’s why Magic Johnson and Larry Bird won championships while Dominique Wilkins and Allen Iverson never did. It’s why LeBron James will never be Kobe Bryant, why Randy Moss will never be Jerry Rice, why Michael Vick will never be Drew Brees, and why Andrew Bynum may someday be a better NBA center than Dwight Howard. Whether it’s a 40” vertical leap, a 100 MPH fast ball, or a 4.3 second 40, athleticism without skills, smarts, and work ethic is no guarantee of greatness in pro sports.
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TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | October 14, 2010 at 08:53 AM
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And why Billy Ray Bates could never be Dr. J!

hobbitmage - It's obvious you have a hard on for MVP888...seems like it takes a post from him to stimulate you to post...but your post is only directed at criticism for 888's post and not the topic...anything to use your 'hyperbole' remark...lol

Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 14, 2010 at 08:19 AM
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Lew, whatever he directed at me, it is simply jealousy rearing its ugly head again.

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | October 14, 2010 at 09:52 AM

KobeMVP888,


You misunderstood me. I was not at all "nitpicking" Magic, who I have on the short list for best ever. There was a conversation about his athleticism, and I was arguing FOR him being athletic not against. AND I was arguing for him having the highest BBall IQ ever. Hardly the stuff of "nitpicking." I pointed out what I thought was his 1 athletic weakness, as part of the overall picture. I am pretty sure we agree on Magic. My favorite Laker ever. Just no Scottie Pippen as a long perimeter defender.

Tom D.

Posted by: Tom Daniels | October 14, 2010 at 07:53 AM
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I apologize Tom. This was not directed at you; I just grabbed your post as a part of the thread. So this was a mutual misunderstanding. My point is very simply that athleticism as it applies to the great Earvin "Magic' Johnson isn't even worth discussing. He was and remains the most unique basketball player in the history of the universe considering the position he played at 6'9". Part of being an "athlete" is smarts and, just like Joe Montana at his position in his sport, his IQ more than compensated for whatever natural athletic "deficiencies" he might have had.

What impressed me the most about Blake (in yesterday's game) was he seemed to be "always in cotrol." Also, I was really impressed with his 3 pt dagger close to the end of the game. Although he had been struggling with his shots most of the game, he didn't hesitate to shoot 3 pt when it really mattered. That tells me that he is not afraid of shooting when the game is on the line.

MJ might be #1 on most lists, but I think TRUE basketball fans must look at Magic as GOAT (and reserve a spot in the top-3 for Wilt too).

But Kobe is climbing the charts as we speak.....


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | October 14, 2010 at 09:32 AM
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THAT'S PERFECT!!!!

*LeBron may never get to Kobe's level of greatness, but c'mon, this guy is unbelievable. Personally, I've never seen anyone do the types of things that LeBron does on the basketball court. LeBron has a mix of super athleticism, smarts, skills, competitiveness, and work ethic.

*Really, it's not fair to Kobe or LeBron to be compared to one another. They are completely different types of players.

*LakerTom- While I agree that athleticism is overrated, I disagree with some of your comparisons, especially the Lebron comparison.

*I know hating on Lebron is the cool thing to do these days. But I learned during the Kobe fiasco, you just have to appreciate greatness. LeBron is a great basketball player with a real chance to go down in history as one of the best who ever played the game. While some may hate on that, it is the truth.

Go Lakers!

A couple of things from last nights game. I am impressed with the amount of effort and desire Lamar is showing looking really good in all phases of the game. Shannon looks to be in control and playing within himself showing a lot of confidence and though Kobe's shot is not quite there, he seems to be getting better and moving much better than the previous two games. I am also liking the minutes Ebanks is getting and how he is playing in control within the system.

Good article by Adande on Artest leadership and growth. And of course, another great quote by Ron Ron...

“You ever go on YouTube, you check out when the tigers fight the lions and anacondas and stuff?” Artest said. “You never seen that? You’ve got to go on YouTube, type tiger vs. anaconda, tiger vs. bear, rhino vs. elephant. It’s crazy.”

Best athletes/worst NBA players: Gerald Green, Bill Willoughby, Darryl Dawkins
Worst athletes/best NBA players: Larry Bird, Bill Laimbeer, Tom Boerwinkle

Does anyone else think that Blake should start over Fish, while Fish plays the Horry role, coming off the bench to close out games?

REPOST

Dear Sonny Belfast


Since I'm keeping score...
You told us to be afraid in 2007.
You told us to be afraid in 2008.
You told us to be afraid in 2009.
You're telling us to be afraid in 2010.


So every season you've told us to be fearful has ended up in a Finals appearance. Hmmmm...


131: I can't wait to see Matt Barnes foul Paula so hard that she remembers she was born a man. He may get ejected...but best believe he'll take a Septic or 2 with him.

> To me it is ridiculous to nitpick at Magic Johnson's so-called "weaknesses."

So you're saying that's it ridiculous to attempt to be factually correct? It's far
better to slap hyperbole on top of hyperbole and admit to no less than
fantastic attributes of any Laker you like.

Posted by: hobbitmage | October 14, 2010 at 06:52 AM
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Can somebody please translate this for me?

@MagicPhil - congrats on RCOTD.

@Lew - excellent selections...especially good to hear Nitty Gritty Band again. Of course, I guessed 1971 correctly :-)

@Jefe - wow. what a variety. Could easily listen to Sir Elton for a week exclusively with no problem.

Always crack up on "And all the colored girls say"....lol

rdlee,

"Best athletes/worst NBA players: Gerald Green, Bill Willoughby, Darryl Dawkins
Worst athletes/best NBA players: Larry Bird, Bill Laimbeer, Tom Boerwinkle"

- Worst athlete / Worst NBA Player - Chuck Nevitt

LakerTom,

The flip side is, quite often for whatever reason, some great stars athleticism is under-rated. Bird and Magic are two great examples. Bird, well, was never given credit for how much alethicism he had and also Magic in a lot of ways. Magic was a BIG man, even by NBA standards, who could move like a gazelle and play with the finese of a ballerina or back you down like a mack truck if needed.

Also and I LOVE this topic because it never gets enough play to me. And it is this....what makes atheletes truly special from a physical standpoint to a lot of the time is actually visual processing. I am not fast, I am not too strong, I can't jump but I was very good in basketball and football because my brain would just almost instantly analyize all the movement and possibilities around me. So I played point guard and quarterback growing up.

Brees, Peyton, Magic, Bird, Rice, Brady, Montana, a LOT of the all time great 'atheletes' might not have had the explosiveness but they ALL had extra top notch vision, court sense, processing, whatever you want to call it. It gives you the ultimate athletic edge in that you know what is going to happen even before other people do.

For me, it got to the point where I would throw bounce passes (or chest passes) not perfect but just enough so the person guarding my teammate thought they could steal the ball (they wouldn't) and they would go for it, leaving an unguarded easy layup.

Manning and Magic and Bird are probably the best examples of this. Manning SEES football probably like no other quarterback on the planet, his brain just analyses everything in a snap. But he is also 6 foot 5 and very strong. In any case the 'special' atheletic gift that often makes an athelete transcendent is their ability to INSTANTLY analysis all the visual information, flows, movements, etc. and just react and do the right thing.

So even if Bird's man was one or two steps quicker it didn't matter. Because Bird's mind was THREE steps quicker so he ended up being the best 'athelete'. But, granted, he also, like Magic and Manning and the rest blessed with the great visual processor worked heck o' hard.

Watching last night's game with my regular group of Lakers fanatics was fantastic. There's something too special to quantify about Laker camaraderie. And the thought that kept being vocalized last night? "This is the best Lakers bench EVER."

Lamar is in mid-season form. Active and spry. Smooth and controlled.

Blake is cerebral (and, LT, he makes your "athleticism-is-overrated" point beautifully).

Ariza -- er, I mean, EBANKS -- is long and lanky and hustles on D.

Caracter finds his way to the glass in all the ways that matter.

Sasha is pesky. And, no, he's still not afraid to shoot. I expect an amazing year from him (read: Faith will fall deeper in love).

Ratliff was a score. And he doesn't HAVE to score a single point, in my opinion.

Shannon Brown continues to leap out of the building, and it looks like his hand has healed up perfectly. He'll get better and better on the 2nd unit.

Barnes is feisty, and he looks like he is starting to find his way through the system. Now Artest doesn't have to worry about tackling Paula Pierce. Barnes can do it, get ejected, and it won't even hurt the bench.

Deep, deep, deep. Ocean deep, I say.

Go Lake Show!

@ROCKY… “LakerTom- While I agree that athleticism is overrated, I disagree with some of your comparisons, especially the Lebron comparison.
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I know hating on Lebron is the cool thing to do these days. But I learned during the Kobe fiasco, you just have to appreciate greatness. LeBron is a great basketball player with a real chance to go down in history as one of the best who ever played the game. While some may hate on that, it is the truth.”
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Thanks for your response, Rocky. You made some good points and I cannot deny that much of my dislike for LeBron is because of what I consider unfair comparisons of a player who has accomplished nothing in the way of winning versus the proven championship greatness of Kobe Bryant. I don’t deny that LeBron may end up being a great player. On the other hand, he could just as well in my opinion end up being Dominique to Kobe’s MJ, a great player who could never win a championship. The point I was really trying to make is that the reason so many people think LeBron is a great player is because of his great athleticism – not because he has shown he has a championship character, work ethic, or killer instinct – all of which count much more in my mind than pure athleticism. Next to Wilt Chamberlain, LeBron is undoubtedly the greatest athlete that has ever played pro basketball but that does not mean that he is or will be the greatest player in the game.
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TOM

131: I can't wait to see Matt Barnes foul Paula so hard that she remembers she was born a man. He may get ejected...but best believe he'll take a Septic or 2 with him.

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Banner Folder: I can't wait to see Shaq foul Kobe so hard that she remembers she was born a man. He may get ejected...but best believe he'll take a Laker or 20 with him.

Larry of LA,

Great points. I was at UCSD in 1992, where the Dream Team had their practices, and saw the players entering and exiting the gym. I was amazed at how big and tall Larry Bird actually was. He was the one player who looked bigger and taller in person than on TV. Playing alongside Parrish and McHale might have masked his size on TV, but Bird looked just as big and tall as the Dream Team centers when standing a few feet in front of you.

Banner Folder: I can't wait to see Shaq foul Kobe so hard that she remembers she was born a man. He may get ejected...but best believe he'll take a Laker or 20 with him.
Posted by: 131-92 | October 14, 2010 at 10:24 AM

That's seriously your comeback? I laughed when I read this, but not because it was funny.

Is there any better "in game" dunker than Shannon Brown in the NBA today? I can't think of anyone.

That's seriously your comeback? I laughed when I read this, but not because it was funny.

Posted by: Magia32 | October 14, 2010 at 10:36 AM

I can only hope you laughed at hard as I did when I read the original post but not because it was funny.

@LARRY OF LA… Outstanding post, Larry. When I am talking about athleticism, I’m referring to the natural God-given physical talents such as speed, quickness, and jumping ability, which to me to can often be trumped by personal skills and traits such as vision, smarts, coordination, work ethic, confidence, and competitiveness. Point guard, quarterback, and catcher are the sports positions where these skills and traits become paramount because their primary role is to control, direct, and lead the team. Personally, I don’t think that Magic and Bird were anywhere near as athletic as many of the players they consistently dominated. The reason they were so great was that they saw and understood the game far better than their more athletic counterparts and had dedicated themselves to honing their basketball skill sets to a level rarely achieved by any NBA players.
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TOM

That's actually pretty funny, 131-92. But what's funny about it is this: There is exactly ZERO chance that Shaq gives Kobe a hard foul, because Shaq will be either 1) injured, 2) traded, or 3) dunked on when the Ceptics and Lakers meet again.

Paula, on the other hand, will be in tears. And they won't be tears of joy.

TTFN.

Go Lake Show!

131: Watch the name calling. Diss my team all you like. But referring to me outside of my screen name is classfied as a personal attack and will be dealt with as such. Dig?

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I can't wait to see Shaq foul Kobe so hard that she remembers she was born a man. He may get ejected..
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Shaq tried that when he was with Miami.

But Kobe got up and calmly made the free throws.

He didn't need a wheelchair like paula.

LA Lakers 2009-2010 Back-to-Back NBA Champions

What I find funny 131-92, is that you are posting on our blog again after your summer of discontent. How did it feel? I'm just curious to hear about how it feels to almost win Game 7 from a true green Celtics fan, you know, just so I could continue to bask in the glow of your teams ultimate choke job. Can't wait for the rubber match this summer, hopefully Big Shrek isn't nursing an injury on "Company Time"...

That's actually pretty funny, 131-92. But what's funny about it is this: There is exactly ZERO chance that Shaq gives Kobe a hard foul, because Shaq will be either 1) injured, 2) traded, or 3) dunked on when the Ceptics and Lakers meet again.

Paula, on the other hand, will be in tears. And they won't be tears of joy.

TTFN.

Go Lake Show!

Posted by: The Outlaw | October 14, 2010 at 10:48 AM

You pretty much covered all the possibilities other then death.

BTW is that "zero" chance the same "zero" chance we had of beating Cleveland and Orlando last year?

From the Neck Down, Princess Jimmy is a Beast! From the Neck Up, a VAST WASTELAND VOID FROM A PAST NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST or MICROWAVE OVEN VENTING ON LIL' PRINCESS JIMMY'S HEAD...
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Triangle Physics: "For Every Defensive Action, there is a Greater and More Lethal Offensive Reaction." The Triangulator

"Other Teams may River Dance, the Lakers Ballet is an Artistry in Rhythm."

GO LAKERS!!!!!!

No, 131-92, it's the same "zero" chance you have of beating the Lakers in this season's Finals.

But, for the record, I do expect your Celtics to be there. And I'm looking forward to the rubber match. What self-respecting basketball fan wouldn't want that?

All dissing aside (for a moment, anyway), I feel pretty confident that the Celtics will make it past the Magic and the Heat. Here's to hoping that both of our teams meet in the Finals at full strength!

Go Lake Show!

131: Watch the name calling. Diss my team all you like. But referring to me outside of my screen name is classfied as a personal attack and will be dealt with as such. Dig?

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 14, 2010 at 10:53 AM

My screen name is 131-92, Not 131! Dig?

LOL ... Whatever! After all the crap youve called me in the past your gonna cry about being called Banner Folder? LOL and LMAO!

@131-92

Worst athlete/NBA player:

Kurt Thomas

Dave Corzine

Corliss Williamson

Fennis Denbo

Uwe Blab

Manute Bol (RIP)

Jon Koncak

Master P

Robert Swift

Brian Cardinal

Bryant Reeves

Michael Olowakandi

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DBDH!

Good morning everybody - LRob, thanks for the response - the early and mid 70s were a very special time for me musically speaking...I kinda like to think of it as my musical wheelhouse, if you will. And I dare say nobody was as prolific and consistently good during that time as Elton John and Stevie Wonder.
MM, thanks for the links in today's CITW post - was especially taken by J.A. Andande's piece - props to him for putting the words "stabilizing force" and "Ron Artest" in the same sentence...I'm totally "digesting" that! Also loved Jeannie Buss' contention that Phil is the worst NBA coach during the exhibition/preseason via Kevin Ding - LOL!
I liked what I saw for the most part from last night's game against the Kings - Ron and Shannon put on quite the show. And then there was LO flirting with a nice little quasi-triple-double. Devin Ebanks, Steve Blake and Matt Barnes continue to impress - I can't tell you how excited I am about the coming season, it's almost breathtaking.
Will be going to Saturday night's "shootout" at Staples against the Nuggets - can't wait. I'd love to see Derek Caracter get off the schnide in that one.

"But, for the record, I do expect your Celtics to be there."


I'm not so sure. Danny better remind Doc that NBA games are still 48 minutes long. Last June, the whole wide world saw first hand that LossTown's prone to collapse around 28-30 minutes into any given game.


Then again, depending on how he feels, LeBron's been known to stop playing 28-30 minutes in himself. Heck...I'd start betting on an LA/Orlando rematch in June 2011. LOL!

DBDH

Mark Madsen doesn't make your list?

Have it your way, Uncle Rico.

83-79: Have the C's resorted to bringing in broken-down Laker castoffs in order to beat LA?

I just want to know who's got first dibs on the granny wheelchair: The Big Minimum, Paula or KG...

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LakerTom: I hate to always agree with your posts, makes for boring reading lol, but you're right on, as usual. You used the perfect analogy:
lebron is to Kobe as 'Nique was to Jordan.

lebron, as you say, lacks in the things to really make the comparison to Magic, which is regularly made, even the least bit legitimate. lebron is NO Magic - no where near, not even close. To start with, Magic is a winner. He's also the consummate leader and teammate.

lebron's athleticism is off the charts, but like you say, athleticism can be trumped. In my eyes, lebron most comes up short in the will-to-win, the work ethic, the dedication to the game that is a universal quality amongst the greats (OK, maybe Wilt was the exception, but he was so far and away more talented and athletic than his peers, he would get away with it).

Dominique was the 'human highlight film' = that's lebron. All highlights, no wins, no rings, no leadership (look at the last 3 minutes of any close game and the lack of integration of teammates in lebrons game).

I think though people are starting to catch on to lebron though. His tired antics, faked injuries, vanishing acts in big games, egotism, self aggrandizement, lack of leadership and team play, poor work ethic... and most importantly, his over-willingness to become a sidekick is why TRUE basketball fans scorn him, look down on him and are amused by the amount of attention payed onto him.

Here is someone that TRULY could be an all-time great, but saying he's there NOW is insulting to TRUE hoops fans and those of us that have been watching NBA for longer than 5 years!


GO LAKERS!!!!!

All dissing aside (for a moment, anyway), I feel pretty confident that the Celtics will make it past the Magic and the Heat. Here's to hoping that both of our teams meet in the Finals at full strength!

Go Lake Show!

Posted by: The Outlaw | October 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM

I hope so as well. I dont think we will have a problem with Orlando. Miami ... I dont know. I think Lebron and Wade are a very tough cover. I wish we would have picked up someone to help guard them. Maybe someone like Posey will be available at the deadline to pick up. I think the Lakers matchup better vs Miami with Kobe, Arest and Barnes.

But I fully expect to see the Lakers in June!

So let's see....


We had a very "revealing" game last night. 1st thing I see when I came here is a troll. That says it all: OUR TEAM ROCKS! So let's see:

1) We got Blake over Farmar. POINT
2) We got Barnes over Powell. DOUBLE POINT
3) We got Theo over MBenga. DOUBLE POINT
4) We drafted Ebanks, cost nothing and the kid rocks. DOUBLE POINT


Get scared....get really scared....

131-92: Stop fronting! Y'all know y'all are gonna run Miami up and down the court. Unlike Laker Nation, LeBron is terrified of Boston. Why do you think he quit in the middle of the 2nd Quarter against y'all?


The Lakers are no longer Boston's B-word. LeBron James is. LOL!

Name calling aside, 131-92 smacks MUCH BETTER than JustAHater & Old Hippy. Can you please convert these trolls into Boston fans to properly show them how to smack?

Have it your way, Uncle Rico.

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 14, 2010 at 11:19 AM

LOL ... Thats better! I knew the true you would come out. Not the fake you like to pretend to be.

Superugly. Just like Rondo's botched 3 point attempt. LOL!

Name calling aside, 131-92 smacks MUCH BETTER than JustAHater & Old Hippy. Can you please convert these trolls into Boston fans to properly show them how to smack?

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | October 14, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Thanks!

But Im not fronting! Dont know for sure yet until the season plays out but I think they can be tough. Either Lebron or Wade will be on the court at all times. And they alone can keep games close. And come playoff time they can go 40-45 mins each game. I think Miami is for real. But thats just on paper. They will have to do it on the court.

I still insist...LeBron don't want no paaaarts of you guys. Not so certain Dwight does, either.

@CCX… “LakerTom: I hate to always agree with your posts, makes for boring reading lol, but you're right on, as usual. You used the perfect analogy: lebron is to Kobe as 'Nique was to Jordan.”
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LOL, Mike. I actually “enjoy” agreeing with your posts. What LeBron really needed to “save” his career from ringless mediocrity was to join Kobe and the Lakers and learn how to win, much like how Alex Rodriguez “saved” his similar award-laden but championship missing career by joining Derek Jeter and the Yankees. Unfortunately for LeBron, DWade is not in the same class as Kobe Bryant as over 90% of NBA GM’s agreed.
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By the way, you chose the ONLY way anybody on this blog should respond to the Celtic troll by calling him by his real name: 83-79. Everybody on this blog should emulate your great move. It’s better than starving him.
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TOM

I liked our bench except for Sasha over exerting himself and failing and Theo getting out rebounded. The one sequence when Kings had 5 offensive chances even on missed free throws was shameful. On freethrows they shoot we have inside rebounding position and lost rebound 2 times in a row. To bad Mbenga signed with Hornets, Theo is not cutting it yet. Last I noticed Ebanks had a good game and after a timeout PJ was eyeballing him even as DE passed PJ going to bench. Wonder what that was about? Good or bad?

Speaking of captions!! What is the caption for Derek Fisher in this article's featured photo? Fisher is warming up his left hand. And his statement? The caption?

"Come on Harry, join the world, it's showtime!"

GOOOoooOOOOOO LAKERS !!!


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