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Caught in the Web: Details on Magic Johnson's decision to sell his minority-ownership stake with the Lakers

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan reports Lakers center Andrew Bynum has progressed enough with the rehabbing of his surgically repaired right knee to get cleared for non-basketball activities. Bresnahan also details Magic Johnson's decision to sell his ownership stake on the Lakers, including the revelation from various sources that indicate there's no connection between Johnson's selling his share of the Lakers and pursuing ownership of another NBA team.

--The Times' T.J. Simers got his hands on "Laker Girl," a new book co-written by Lakers Executive Vice President Jeanie Buss and former L.A. Times writer Steve Springer. Lots of insight on what the book offers and a few jabs at our Lakers scribes.

--The Times' DeAntae Prince focuses on how Phil Jackson became interested in coaching.

--NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper reports that Johnson's "5% of Lakers ownership not connected to immediate plans to buy into another team."

--ESPN.com's J.A. Adande says Johnson should buy the Dodgers.

--The Los Angeles Business Journal profiles Patrick Soon-Shiong, who purchased minority ownership of the Lakers from Johnson.

--Forbes.com offers more details on Soon-Shiong in the video below.

--The Denver Post's Benjamin Hochman reveals that the Nuggets have a profound respect for the Lakers.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky previews the upcoming week for the Lakers.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Brian T. Smith reports that Utah guard Deron Williams will play tonight against the Lakers. Smith also reports Raja Bell plans to get his college diploma.

--The Daily News' Elliott Teaford highlights the possibility that Johnson could own the Detroit Pistons.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell details Monday's practice and talks to Trey Johnson about his training camp experience.

--The Orange County Register's Mark Whicker presents a photo gallery of Bryant's career.

--Yahoo! Sports previews the Lakers in the video below

--Lakers Nation's Nadya Avakian recalls Johnson's career.

--Silver Screen and Roll's C.A. Clark dissects the Lakers' offense.

--Lakers of Fire's Garrett Wilson analyzes the Lakers' pre-season thus far.

Quote of the Day: "I've been cleared. I can start running next week and then maybe start practicing in two to three weeks. But the important thing is the doctor cleared me." -- Lakers center Andrew Bynum to The Times' Mike Bresnahan.

Tweet of the Day: "Magic Johnson sale of 5% of Lakers ownership not connected to immediate plans to buy into another team, source tells NBA.com. Source: There is "nothing going on with any other team. This is just a really good business move." Apparently too much $$ to pass on. Strictly coincidence that the move comes as sale of Magic's hometown Pistons is being completed. He is not part of Ilitch group." -- SHowardCooper (NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper)

Reader Comment of the Day: "Don't hate on Magic for selling his (minority) share of the Lakers. His stated goal for some time has been to assume a controlling share of an NBA franchise and I have no doubt he has his sight set on his home state Detroit Pistons. This can only be a good thing for the NBA. Having its ex-greats maintain a presence within the league gives it a credibility unheard of in other major sports. How many ex-NFL or MLB players own teams? Another, possible, boon would be the upcoming CBA negotiations. I think the Players Union would be more willing to accept numbers from teams run by ex-players. That alone will not save next year ... but if Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson told you, "Hey, I lost $16.5 mil last season because we only sold out 10 out of 41 games," you don't automatically assume they're trying to pull one over on you. At the end of the day, I'll always detest the Pistons, not as much as the Celtics ... but close. However, if as widely assumed, he gains a controlling share of the Pistons, I'll root for them to do well as long as they lose to the Lakers." -- Jamie Sweet

-- Mark Medina

 
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thanx for the tunes all -

this is for Luke & Drew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8s9dmuAKvU&feature=fvw

Nice quote Jamie,
Completely agree, let Magic do his thing. He is a great business man and has a wealth of basketball knowledge that some NBA team could really use right now.
I'm all for it and I am all for seeing the teams facing hard times getting a chance to get back to being competitive.

Magic just Hates Kobe so much deep down after Kobe WON his 5th championship and He knows Kobe has surpassed him as The Greatest Laker ever by beating Celtics in Games 7, Which no other Laker do!!! MAGIC just couldn't see KOBE'S Success and was NOT enjoying being a Chump Change Owner!!!

Nice to have a multi-billionaire as 5% owner/partner of Lakers owner Jerry Buss.


Magic probably just took a good oppurtunity to sell to a very wealthy man. You don't sell beacuse you need the funds, you sell because it is the right time, right price and right buyer.

Dr. Soon-Shiong will be a great minority owner. His business philosophy is grounded in ethical and moral values for the wellbeing of medical patients and the medical community. In the process, he has made a few dollars, and good for him for being a Lakers fan, and now an owner. What a dream come true. Congratulations Dr. Soon-Shiong!

Lakers has so much nice option. They can go big, small or evenly balance at any given match ups.


Big
Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Kobe, Brown


Balance
Gasol, Odom, Barnes, Kobe, Blake


Small
Odom, Artest, Barnes, Brown, Blake


Mid

Odom, Artest, Barnes, Ebanks, Kobe

or
Clutch
Gasol, Odom, Artest, Kobe, Fish

My Small lineup: Odom, Artest, Kobe, Brown, Blake

RCOTD = JAMIE SWEET = OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!! KUDOS!!!

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CONGRATULATIONS LAKERS NEW MINORITY OWNER DR.SOON SIONG - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKER J – OWNER - Dr. Soon-Shiong will be a great minority owner. His business
philosophy is grounded in ethical and moral values for the wellbeing of medical patients and
the medical community. In the process, he has made a few dollars, and good for him for being a
Lakers fan, and now an owner. What a dream come true. Congratulations Dr. Soon-Shiong!
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER –Congratulations Dr. Soon-Shiong ,may your investment proper
as much as the Lakers have. Welcome to Laker nation ownership
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) # 4 -
(05) LAKER LASS
(06) FAN OF THE MAMBA
(07) PHRED –
(08) RICK FRIEDMAN

@Jamie Sweet - congrats on the RCOTD...well deserved...

@cofm99 - I think your title should be 'In House Band'

@MVP888 - nice to see a designation from the old neighborhood...'Courtside Techinician'...very fitting...

@LakerLass - HILARIOUS...thanks for the Bill Cosby vid...needed that for this hectic morning...

@justa - I always acknowledge you and Ron Ron...even when I'm silent...lol...one of the 'teachings' I've learned from you master...(that and percocets, which the darn dentist didn't give me...he gave me Motrin, and I said 'no thanks')

There's a new DJ in the House and the name is MS!!!!!!!

LEWSTRS sir, turning the Lakers Nation Bus back over to you. It's almost time for my afternooon run.


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LEWSTRS - Driver
NewMexicoLL - Shotgun
LRob - DJ and Bartender
justanothermambafan –Security & Fabulous
Mamba24 - Navigator
Laker Lass - Keeper of the Flame
Mark Medina - Customs
ZairaAmaterasu - Goddess
Laker Tom - NorCal Chapter
utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER - Chaplain
Fan of The Mamba - Midwest Chapter
phred = The Love Chapter
Jamie Sweet - Can't wait for a 3-peat
KobeMVP888 - Courtside Technician
RDLee - Ready to Roll
Laker Peace - Ready for the Quest for #17
Houston Laker - Needs a game day Link
Noah - Gods favorite
JustaLakerFan - Got some tunes to strike up the band
63 - Footer - Ready to put some foot into some heat behind
Magic Phil - He of the magic skill
#4 - He knows this is Phils 4th 3-peat
EastCoastJessie - Latina Princess
And the Jello Is Jigglin - He can turn Lebron to Jello
Tim-4-Show - Shannon Browns advisor
Lone Star Laker Fan - Olde Timey Historian"
NewMexicoLL - From Land of The Original Lakers(Minn.)
LakerJ - Fire Fighter - Will Extinguish The Heat
Cofm99 – Security Officer
Segeboy/Taliq – Sheriff
OutLaw – Defense Specilaist
Baby Outlaw – Defense Specialist in Training
Fearless – Enforcer
Rick Friiedman – Morale Officer
Faith – Defense Officer
Jon K – Undercover Agent
J24 – Fairness Officer
PsychedLakerGirl – Review Judge
Joe Corad – Night Games Supervisor
Adrian Palomar – Overseas Chapter
Caps-Googles – Tech Foul Official
CyberCosmix – Devising otherworldly Laker Defense
2Phatt – Can Squash anything with the name Heat
WesJoeNixcon – Shaolin Monk – Trainer of IP Man
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lance from da' bronx - East Coast Chapter
MS – The Tune Master
Zach - From San Diego Chapter
Jefe101 – 17th Parade Director
Staples24 – Director of Trades

OMG - The Asians are taking over...lol j/k

Congrats Dr. Siong...you need to get a block of seats for the members of this Blog...and show that you are for the FAN...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

What kind of party is this? Talking Heads, Felder, Womack, Spinners (tempted to respond with T.I's Rubberband Man...lol), Spirit, Rory (now that's some good blues), Minnie, Heatwave, America, Run DMC, Krall, Elvis, Willie, Fresh Prince, Lena (that was a treat), Herb & Janet, Quad City, Oysterhead, BEP, Spooks, the Supergroup...and more. You guys are pure musical genuises I tell ya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OGy57tmEY

I guess that brings it full circle kinda...sorta. Oh yeah, Justa your boy Ziggy get some production credit on this one!

@Mamba - That Minnie was on point. Some Chi-town love huh! Oh yeah, thanks for the recognition, but I don't do bartending...strictly DJ my brother!

@MagicPhil - So a special "UnSung" on Heatwave a few weeks ago on TV1. If you have that channel on your cable system you should check it out. I'm sure they'll repeat it.

What kind of party is this? Talking Heads, Felder, Womack, Spinners (tempted to respond with T.I's Rubberband Man...lol), Spirit, Rory (now that's some good blues), Minnie, Heatwave, America, Run DMC, Krall, Elvis, Willie, Fresh Prince, Lena (that was a treat), Herb & Janet, Quad City, Oysterhead, BEP, Spooks, the Supergroup...and more. You guys are pure musical genuises I tell ya...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OGy57tmEY I guess that brings it full circle kinda...sorta. Oh yeah, Justa your boy Ziggy get some production credit on this one! Posted by: LRob | October 19, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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Leave it to the Master DJ himself Jammin DJ LRob to bring some order into this musical confusion!! Lol!

Mamba - That Minnie was on point. Some Chi-town love huh! Oh yeah, thanks for the recognition, but I don't do Bartending...strictly DJ my brother!
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Lol! My Bad, but that's good! DRINKS FOR THE ENTIRE LAKER NATION!!!!!! LOL! Minnie is my love and heart. I have her very first record under the name Andrea Davis called Lonely Girl all of her Rotary Connection Albums and all her solo albums. Beautiful woman with an unbelievable voice. The world lost an Angel when she passed!


@MM… Just wanted to compliment you on your great effort and success running the LA Times Lakers Blog. I don’t know whether the rest of the blog picked up the comment from Dan that you were singled out at a recent Times editorial board meeting for the great job you’ve done taking the Lakers Blog to a new level, so I wanted to highlight that again. Your analysis and writing show that you really know basketball and how to write. Thank you again for making this such a great place for Lakerholics and turning us into Lakers Blogaholics.
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@LROB… Wow, LRob goes country. I have to admit for a former folkie and addicted rock-n-roller, I’ve always loved country and Tug’s boy is one of the best. I still remember the stories when Tim and Tug first met and got together. Other than no mention of trains and prison, it was a country song. I love the contradiction of the cowboy who never cries and country songs that bring tears to your eyes. As Jackson Brown said in his great song STAY in 1978 and the Blues Brothers stole for their movie, “we got country AND western.”
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@PHRED… I’m getting confused. Is the Activator our old buddy ouchhhhhhhhhh? (Damn, never seem to get the correct number of h’s). Or maybe I’m just getting lost in all the hullabaloo about the fantasy league. Man, I don’t like that our moderator is going to be rooting for Durant and other Lakers bloggers are going to be rooting for LeBron, Melo, and probably even Rondo and PP. Seems like somebody needs to invent a way you can be a Lakers fan and still play fantasy basketball because the contradiction definitely would keep me away.
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@888… Superb defense of Luke Walton. Here’s a novel thought: why don’t we support all the players on the team. Why is it that there have to be two or three guys who are always on the TRADE THE DAMN FOOL bandwagon. Usually, they’re guys like Luke who rarely contribute during a game but probably prove to be invaluable guys on the practice court, helping teach young players what to do and where to go, and providing the intangibles to team chemistry and rapport that often make them valuable contributors to team success.
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@LEWSTERS… Great to see the Lakers Nation Bus ready to roll. And I love that seat right between Zaira and Utz. Always a pleasure to connect to our European Blog Goddess or our blog chaplain. Hope Zaira had a great couple of nights at the Greek Theater watching her favorite band Maroon 5. No better venue in the entire USA in my opinion. And Utz is always a great read and a true Renaissance blogger. As you are too are, good sir. By the way, that was a great suggestion that Dr. Siong fund a block of seats for the LA Times Lakers Blog. LOL!
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@JAMIE… Congrats on a well deserved RCOD. You’ve been hot the last few posts. Always love reading what you have to say. Guess Magic just needed the $28M, sort of like dipping into your 401(k) although I would bet there were other stocks he could have sold that didn’t have such a rosy future. Nevertheless, I think the more former Lakers who are owners, general managers, or head coaches in the NBA, the better for the Lakers. Who knows, maybe someday we will get Ricky Rubio through our Kurt Rambis connection.
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TOM

LakerTom,

One of the many reasons why people hate on Walton is because fans are worried that he will be given minutes over Barnes, Shannon, Sasha or Ebanks. I think it is important for Barnes to get as many backup minutes as possible to learn the Triangle and build some cohesion with his teammates. I would also like to see Ebanks get any garbage minutes available for his development. Luke, who is an injury waiting to happen, will only get in the way. A large group of Laker fans had the same concerns (and confusion) when Luke was starting over Ariza. I believe you had similar concerns when Kwame was getting minutes over Bynum. At the end of the day, we want what is best for the team, and the less minutes Luke sees on the court, the better.

Mamba24 - As usual...a great and fantastic job covering my back...Honestly bro, I'm so excited to share and witness this season with you the rest of the Nation...

This will be a fun season, and I know you and I will make it so...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

Mamba24 - As usual...a great and fantastic job covering my back...Honestly bro, I'm so excited to share and witness this season with you the rest of the Nation...

This will be a fun season, and I know you and I will make it so...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up!!!

@LAKERTRUTH… I understand the concern, but I think Phil has adjusted his opinion of Luke’s capabilities to be more realistic. I do agree with you that there was a time when Luke got too many minutes same as Kwame and I agree other guys now deserve those minutes. I think the decision to draft Ebanks and sign Barnes also reflected a team-wide understanding that we needed to get better backup behind Ron Artest.
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Having said this, I do think Luke can still contribute to this team both on and off the court. Personally, I just think we need as a fan base to appreciate the selfless approach that Luke gives this team. There is little doubt that his teammates and coaches love the guy. For me, the move by him to go to the bench so Trevor could start says a lot about the guy’s team first attitude. I think Phil still believes that there will be moments and matchups where Luke will help. It’s just that they are going to be few and far between. He’s still a Laker.
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TOM

Oh yeah, Justa your boy Ziggy get some production credit on this one!

Posted by: LRob
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Huh? I'm thinking you need to identify your justa's....!

Come on LakerTom -

The argument on Luke boils down to one thing and that is: Would you rather have Luke or his salary off the books?

Luke's lack of athleticism is a far bigger liability than his "Basketball IQ" is an asset.

htj - gotta stick with LakerTom on this one. Luke is a bigger asset than you're giving him credit for. When he's healthy - and that really is the crux of the matter - he's a very good Laker. He can run the O, he's solid on D and he gets the bench mob (or whatever we're calling them this year) settled down into their roles. Not to mention his assistance with the younger players in helping them with their understanding of how this veteran team functions, and what's expected of them. You may not like his salary, or it's length, but when he signed it we really needed him. More than we do now, but still - at the time it was considered a must to resign Luke. No one can predict injuries or length of healing time. I'd rather have a healthy Luke over most guys out there - if we made a straight up trade - considering all he brings to this team.

LakerTom,

One of the many reasons why people hate on Walton is because fans are worried that he will be given minutes over Barnes, Shannon, Sasha or Ebanks. I think it is important for Barnes to get as many backup minutes as possible to learn the Triangle and build some cohesion with his teammates. I would also like to see Ebanks get any garbage minutes available for his development. Luke, who is an injury waiting to happen, will only get in the way. A large group of Laker fans had the same concerns (and confusion) when Luke was starting over Ariza. I believe you had similar concerns when Kwame was getting minutes over Bynum. At the end of the day, we want what is best for the team, and the less minutes Luke sees on the court, the better.

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | October 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM
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Sasha and Shannon Brown are guards, so Luke won't "be given" many minutes over them, but THIS fan WANTS Luke to get minutes ahead of Barnes and the talented young second round draft pick, Ebanks. Who would you rather have on the floor to expedite Steve Blake's learning curve of the triangle, Luke or an 8 year, 8 team journeyman who won't grasp the finer points of the offense ALL SEASON? Please understand that Matt Barnes isn't all THAT and that he is going to have to earn his minutes. In fact, if Philip decides to use Barnes as part of the early season rotation ahead of Luke, I will bet you that changes.

Ron Artest is a higher IQ player than Barnes and he is still learning the triangle and will be the first to admit it. Barnes will play fewer than 20 mpg, so do you really expect him to grasp it quickly? Thank God we have Luke on this team as a player-coach. A second quarter lineup of Blake-Brown-Walton-Odom-Ratliff early in the practice season sounds a lot more appealing to me while Fish, Kobe, Ron and Pau are resting given the superior passing and organizing skills of Walton over Barnes. Also, Walton is a better defender and rebounder than you give him credit for. Remember, LO will likely be initiating the offense and Luke is a solid back to the basket low post player who passes out of there extremely well and who organizes the offense from wherever he is. That is NOT Barnes' game. Part of the reason you hate on Luke is because he seems to be in the middle of the action whenever he's on the court and it's neither aesthetically pleasing or athletic enough for you.

Meanwhile, Phil Jackson trusts Luke Walton. At the end of the day, we want what is best for the team, and whatever PHIL JACKSON decides ... not what some fans think ... the better. I'll defer to Coach Eleven Rings over any fan who has concluded that Luke Walton stinks and hurts the team. Let the Lakers' Hall of Fame head coach decide that.

Luke's biggest contribution of his career BY FAR was volunteering to go to the bench. He can make an even bigger contribution by retiring. Reports came out this summer that the front office wanted Luke to retire, but Luke wants to continue to fleece the Lakers as long as he can. What's the point of playing Luke over Barnes or Ebanks when he will miss 6 months the next time he chips a fingernail?

Justa - I think we already agreed to disagree on Luke.

I'll agree he slows things down for the bench. Simply because he can't move quickly and has no choice.

Still, defend the contract all you want, the Lakers would be better off without it.

@Jamie Sweet - congrats on RCOTD.

@Mamba - I agree 100% on everything you said about Minnie. I'm going to have to look up that early stuff you mentioned. Thanks for the info.

@MagicPhil - I meant to say..."saw" instead of "so"

@LakerTom - Love the story telling in some Country songs. Very simple and REAL....just perfect for a simple guy like me...lol. As Tug would say...You gotta believe.

@Justa - Ziggy Marley...duh! You know the one hubby has pictures with...HELLO. He played a role in producing that track for the Tom Tom Club.


@MM - Thanks for the RCOTD, thanks for the well wishes all.


Watched Monday Night football last night and since the game totally stunk all the booth commentators and pre/post game guys could talk about were the new NFL helmet to helmet/"Devastating Hit" rules and for the most part the input was quite negative, this from mostly ex-players. At one point one of the post game guys said, "What we have here are non-NFL people making decisions about what is best for the NFL and they are ruining it." To which Steve Young nodded his head and assessed, quite accurately, that it's a TV league, not a sports league.


Stuart Scott wrapped with an excellent quote from an un-named ex-NFL player who basically said that "It's a privelege to play in the NFL, you don't HAVE to do it, it's a privelege."


I couldn't help but see the similarities between the new NFL rules and our new technical foul rules. People who have never played professional sports conducting un-released polls to establish what the television market wants to see. The reactions that have been posted here have ranged from very negative, to understanding the intent, but not the execution. Many solutions have been propsed which leads me to beleieve that (unfortunately) the NBA pollsters don't check out our most excellent Blog.


Reading back over my comment I found it strangely prophetic (that tooting sound is me and my horn, I guess) that I mentioned how ex-NBA players are more accepted within the heirarchy of the league after their playing days are over and contrasting it with the two other major American sports.


In the NFL, if you're an ex-player with some of your wits left to you, it's been proven you can make it as a commentator (the majority) or a coach (the minority). In MLB, it's more of a fraternity, if you ever had any wits most likely they are still there, and the Farm system is basically designed to keep ex players busy/employed. But I don't know of any ex-players in either league to actualyy go out and purchase a controlling share of a professional franchise. Minority owners, sure, but not the man or woamn sitting in the biggest chair.


As fans, what do we want to see? Sure it's annoying to see the players harp to the refs, especially when the ball is quickly moving down court away from the complaining player when they should be getting back on D, but is that worse than having our professional athletes second guess every action on the feild or court? At some level all sports are emotional, barbaric contests of skill, will and physical ability, are we losing sight of that with our over-regulation of sports in the name of corporate dollars?


Is there un-tested middle ground still to be explored, possibly by appointing players, both currently playing and retired, to a rules committee so that we get rules that work for the television viewer at home, the players, the teams and the fans who just want to see their team win, the squeemish be damned?


The improvement in technology has also opened the doors of video replay, slowly but steadily increasing in use and influence, to cheers and jeers alike. Have we lost so much confidence in our fellow man that we must assume that because a umpire or ref blows a call there is some ulterior motive, therefor we must verify some calls using video replay?


What would the respective founders of these sports say about this growing mass of regulations?


I don't have the answers (sorry), but it's certainly shaping up to be an interesting discussion.

PRIORITIES:

Moma is happy
The kids are fed (happy depends on age)
The job is covered.
The mortgage is paid up
The Lakers play tonight

Everything else is background noise

JR

@LakerTom - After watching Ricky Rubio go 0 fer in barcelona, I'm not sure I would want him!


@LEWSTRS - I have to say I TOTALLY love you Star Trek TNG references!


@LAKER TRUTH - I don't think that having a healthy Luke Walton will in any way hinder the team building that the newcomers so desperately need. If anyhting, it will help it along. I expect Luke to spend less than 10 mpg at the 3, after the All Star game (when things start to matter) he'll pull ahead of Ebanks (unless the rook is simply dazzling) in the rotation as he gears up for the playoffs.


Barnes will get the minutes, barring injury or abject ineffectiveness. Ebanks will get his time...a season or two from now. Phil won't put too much onus on his rooks, if they play at all.

REPOST


The unofficial Lakers Nation Bus Theme Song:
Song to the Double Dutch Bus music by Frankie Smith

Give me a HO if you're on the Lakers blog bus ...HO HO HO

There's a Lakers bus comin' down the street
Movin pretty fast
And swayin to the beat
Get on the bus and support your team
And tell the driver that you're
Goin' to a Lakers Blog Affair
Fe Fi Fo Fum
Well I'll be darn here we come
The Lakers Blog Bus is on the street
You'd better get on the bus
and support your team!

Boy wasting time on a rainy day at work can be super-dooper fun! Thanks Laker Blog, you made my day today!

Luke's biggest contribution of his career BY FAR was volunteering to go to the bench. He can make an even bigger contribution by retiring. Reports came out this summer that the front office wanted Luke to retire, but Luke wants to continue to fleece the Lakers as long as he can. What's the point of playing Luke over Barnes or Ebanks when he will miss 6 months the next time he chips a fingernail?

Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | October 19, 2010 at 01:25 PM
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I agree that the likelihood of Luke making it through the season is, as Chickie would say, "slim to none and slim just left the building!" The Lakers' management is well of aware of this and Mitch Kupchak even said so as a reason for signing Matt Barnes in the first place. Both Phil and Mitch are skeptical about Luke's health, but instead of opining what should and shouldn't be done with respect to Luke's playing time, we should simply trust Phil Jackson on this. Obviously the more Barnes is on the court, the better it is for him and the Lakers down the road. Forget about Ebanks for now. However, in terms of getting off to a smooth start this practice season, as long as Walton is healthy, the team AND Barnes can only benefit from that. This is a very cerebral game, especially the way Phil Jackson coaches. Barnes is not used to that yet and Walton can only help him understand the nuances of Laker basketball.

Hahaha, thanks Mamba for Putting me on the LNB. I really appreciate it :). Question: Am I a Tech Foul Official because of my front line duty against late night trolls?

Does anyone have a working link that will allow us to watch the game via the web tonight??

Still, defend the contract all you want, the Lakers would be better off without it.

Posted by: htj | October 19, 2010 at 01:26 PM
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Everyone knows that, but the Lakers are still over the cap and in luxury tax territory even without Luke's contract. It's not like we can replace him with someone else for the same amount of money. Big deal, we have a contract we can't "get rid of," so instead the Lakers make the best out of the situation. I can't believe fans even bother raising this issue. If you can't change the facts, change the attitude.

Kobe888,

Luke's tenure with the Lakers has been a giant failure any way you slice it. Do you seriously think that Kupchack does not regret giving Luke that contract? Has there been a worse contract in LAKER HISTORY? Is there any team in the league that would realistically take Walton over Barnes? Yes, Barnes is a journeyman, but Ariza and Shannon couldn't even get off the bench before joining the Lakers, and they turned out just fine. If bench players can prove they are better than Luke, than Barnes, who started games for a contending team (Orlando), will have no problem coming off the bench and proving he deserves minutes over Luke. Do you seriously think that Kupchack wouldn't trade Luke in a heartbeat for a late second round pick? Why do you think the front office wanted Luke to retire in the offseason if they love him so much? Were you one of those fans who continued to defend the virtues of Brian Cook, Smush Parker and Kwame Brown simply because they were Lakers, or did you realize that these guys really SUCKED? I'm telling you now, Luke Walton SUCKS.

Look, these are the traits that I want from a backup SF, and Luke only qualifies in only one - passing:

- Mentally tough - NOT
- Physically durable - NOT
- Solid Defense - NOT
- Play through injury and pain - NOT
- Strong work ethic - NOT
- Improves his game every year - NOT
- Plays well in non-contract years - NOT
- Spreads the floor - NOT
- Runs a fast break - NOT
- Passing - YES

His strengths do not outweigh his liabilities. Without Luke, it is possible the Lakers could have signed both Artest and Ariza last season, but Luke continues to haunt the Lakers, with no end in sight.

Hahaha, thanks Mamba for Putting me on the LNB. I really appreciate it :). Question: Am I a Tech Foul Official because of my front line duty against late night trolls? Posted by: Cap's Goggles (83-79) | October 19, 2010 at 01:54 PM
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Hey! You're Caps Googles you can have any damn position you want!! But yes, yes the front line duty against the late night Trolls cinched the deal!

lEWSTRS AND MAMBA24.. Thanks guys for doing the bus... it should be fully loaded when we head down Figuero and into Staples on the 26th!!!! The Laker Faithful are getting ready for another Championship JOURNEY. Can't wait. Hope we play some better defense tonite.

The Lakers Blog Bus is on the street You'd better get on the bus and support your team! Posted by: Fan of the Mamba | October 19, 2010 at 01:35 PM
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Now Fan of the Mamba I did this for one Mamba Clan member already today, I guess my objectivity is completely gone because I'm going to have to say...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!

PRIORITIES:

Moma is happy
The kids are fed (happy depends on age)
The job is covered.
The mortgage is paid up
The Lakers play tonight Everything else is background noise Posted by: Jolly Rancher | October 19, 2010 at 01:34 PM
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*sniff* *sniff* Beautiful Jolly Rancher, simply Beautiful!!!

The beauty of America, freedom of speech, being a sports fan, and a member of this blogging community, is that everyone is entitle to have an opinion. If ones opinion is different, express it so, without a sense of self entitlement and demeaning others that think differently. At the end of the day the common ground is being Lakers fans and hoping for another title. The many points of view of how we get there is what gives this blog dialogue, and adds diversity, while hopefully, not creating division.
I find it interesting that some will defer to Phil, while not deferring to Mitch, Dr. Buss, or the many other general managers that assess talent and player value. Some will have a sense of grandeur because they have been right in the past. Everyone's points of view have valid arguments. I have been persuaded to change an opinion after reading a post or two. I have also been turned off by the arrogance of some posters. However, it is having an open mind that allows us to grow and mature. I much rather be wrong and see the team succeed, than be right and see the team fail.
MVP888, you contribute excellent points to this blog, but at times I feel that you are cocky in your approach. As if you and Phil Jackson had no differences at all and were one and the same. I tell you one difference since you like to defer to him, he never refers to the regular season as the 82 game preseason. He shows up to coach, and expects his players to show up to play. I believe that you dismiss the business part of sports too readily. Fans want to see the team win in the regular season and, of course, win the ultimate prize in the postseason. That's why I'm happy to be a Lakers fan, because we do that more often than not. I hope that you don't take my comments as criticism, but rather as feedback. I will say it again, I enjoy reading most of your posts and your knowledge of basketball, be it Lakers or otherwise.

@HTJ… “Would you rather have Luke or his salary off the books?” LOL. You got me there. But I would also like to have Drew and Kobe both healthy and ready to go. The problem is we have to live with the reality of Luke’s contract just as we do with Drew’s and Kobe’s injuries. That is unless we’re playing fantasy basketball with phred. Did I think we should have signed Luke for so long at so much? Of course not. When he signed, I had no problem with the salary we gave him. Like houses, that was the market then. The number of years was obviously a brain fart by Mitch but then he is only human after all and deserves to be forgiven for small sins.
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@LAKER TRUTH… “Luke's biggest contribution of his career BY FAR was volunteering to go to the bench. He can make an even bigger contribution by retiring.” I have no doubt that if Luke’s back problems resurface that he would retire. However, his retirement would not really help the Lakers much as the relief is only good for half his salary for one year so the real impact would be only to reduce our salary and luxury tax bill a little. And I would NEVER hope for a player NOT to get well despite how much it would value the team. Nor would you if you have ever had a bad back. With his family history, I hope Luke never again has any back problems.
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@888… What’s most impressive about our bench right now is the versatility we have because of the ability of multiple players being able to play multiple positions. That gives Phil the flexibility to tailor his substitutions to take best advantage of the matchups. Like every member of this roster, Luke has his strengths and there are definitely situations and matchups where he can help the team. With such a deep roster, I think we will see Phil vary his rotations depending upon whom we are playing and who best gives us the matchup advantage. This is an edge we have this year that we did not have last year and Luke just adds another arrow to the quiver.
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TOM

@Fan of the Mamba - I second the motion...and I can't use M24's line...so GOSH DARN EXCELLENT!!!

@JamieSweet - Thank you for noticing my battle cry for this season...

@NewMexicoLL - Your wish is my command...it's was a phenomenal idea...so it was my pleasure...

@LakerJ - keeping us at even keel...I tip my cap to you...

I had a good final appt. at the dentist...I had a great 1:30 client appt. which resulted in an offer...now we have a Laker game to watch tonight...

Here is a glimpse of my feeling...If this doesn't get you in game time mode...don't know what will...crank it up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go8ABAkQcfk

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation...

#17 Coming Up...


ONE WEEK TO FILL THE LAT LAKERS BLOG BUS...

DESTINATION STAPLES CENTER FOR OPENING AND RING NIGHT!!!
Let's show unity and support for this most excellent season coming up!


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[_|___|__|___|__|__|__|__|__|__\
|____LAKERS NATION BUS_\__\__
l__________________________--|
\_(O)-(O)_____________|_|(O)___/
LEWSTRS - Driver
NewMexicoLL - Shotgun
LRob - DJ and Bartender
justanothermambafan –Security & Fabulous
Mamba24 - Navigator
Laker Lass - Keeper of the Flame
Mark Medina - Customs
ZairaAmaterasu - Goddess
Laker Tom - NorCal Chapter
utzworld - THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER - Chaplain
Fan of The Mamba - Midwest Chapter
phred = The Love Chapter
Jamie Sweet - Can't wait for a 3-peat
KobeMVP888 - Courtside Technician
RDLee - Ready to Roll
Laker Peace - Ready for the Quest for #17
Houston Laker - Needs a game day Link
Noah - Gods favorite
JustaLakerFan - Got some tunes to strike up the band
63 - Footer - Ready to put some foot into some heat behind
Magic Phil - He of the magic skill
#4 - He knows this is Phils 4th 3-peat
EastCoastJessie - Latina Princess
And the Jello Is Jigglin - He can turn Lebron to Jello
Tim-4-Show - Shannon Browns advisor
Lone Star Laker Fan - Olde Timey Historian"
NewMexicoLL - From Land of The Original Lakers(Minn.)
LakerJ - Fire Fighter - Will Extinguish The Heat
Cofm99 – Security Officer
Segeboy/Taliq – Sheriff
OutLaw – Defense Specilaist
Baby Outlaw – Defense Specialist in Training
Fearless – Enforcer
Rick Friiedman – Morale Officer
Faith – Defense Officer
Jon K – Undercover Agent
J24 – Fairness Officer
PsychedLakerGirl – Review Judge
Joe Corad – Night Games Supervisor
Adrian Palomar – Overseas Chapter
Caps-Googles – Tech Foul Official
CyberCosmix – Devising otherworldly Laker Defense
2Phatt – Can Squash anything with the name Heat
WesJoeNixcon – Shaolin Monk – Trainer of IP Man
IHeartKB24 - Kobe Bryants inspiration
lance from da' bronx - East Coast Chapter
MS – The Tune Master
Zach - From San Diego Chapter
Jefe101 – 17th Parade Director
Staples24 – Director of Trades
Caliphilosopher - British Correspondent
Nemaia Faletogo - Tropical Zen Master

Magic's sale of his minority interest in the Lakers and his 105 Starbucks franchises could be due to tax hikes coming up next year.

Obama gave Magic little choice. Capital gains taxes and the upper brackets are going up.
Oh, and the taxes for us little people are going up, too.


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