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Caught in the Web: Andrew Bynum pushes back his timetable

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--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains why the Lakers may not have much more time for more championships.

--Bresnahan also reports that Lakers center Andrew Bynum may be out until December and that NBA security officials remain on alert for possible terrorism threats in Europe.

--Here's an interesting headlined from The Independent's Guy Adams: "Lakers to bring NBA razmatazz to London."

--ESPN Los Angeles' Andrew Kamenetzky argues that the Lakers are the team best suited to promote the NBA overseas.

--Yahoo! Sports presents a fan opinion from Eric Martin on how his attitude has changed toward Kobe Bryant.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin talks to Minnesota Coach Kurt Rambis about Bryant's health. McMenamin also highlights the Lakers' interest in soccer, and he explains why Ron Artest wants more American players in European leagues.

--The Daily Mirror notes which players to watch in the Lakers' exhibition game today against Minnesota.

--Sportinglife.com's Ian Parker highlights Pau Gasol's belief that the U.K. will do well in the 2012 Olympics.

--CNN's Pedro Pinto reports Bryant's happy for the Miami Heat to have the media scrutiny this season.

--The BBC's Rasheed Speede talks with Bryant about what he thinks the Lakers' trip to London will do for promoting the NBA.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell has a complete practice report from Sunday's session.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Phillip Barnett tackles some pre-season questions.

Tweet of the Day: "I have arrived in London. They had Mary Poppins as one of the in-flight movies. Hopefully I can jump into a chalk street drawing today" -- mcten (ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin)

Reader Comment of the Day: "I would be curious to hear Kobe's answer if he were asked who'd win in one-on-one with Jordan. That would be more intriguing match up." -- LakerPeace

-- Mark Medina
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E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Andrew Bynum listens to a question during the team's media day. Credit: Jae C. Hong / Associated Press

 
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Bynum out in October and November. Get well soon Bynum!

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So Bynum's recovery has been revised from 'the end of november' to 'december?'

Ok, but that isn't perhaps much of a revision, since last time I checked, those are the same.

Derrick Caracter 58th pick in the draft will be the biggest surprise of the rookies this year. With Bynum out he will get tons of playing time even for a Coach who does not like to play rookies. But Jackson won't have a choice, either a 37 year old Ratliff or the 22 year old powerfully built DC.

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Good morning lakerholics,


This is THE season, the one that will cement our dinasty for good. Kobe will be GOAT, lakers tie the chowders at #17. PJ retires.


LET'S GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

LEWSTRS present and accounted for and CHECKING IN for Mamba24 first Roll Call for the 2010-2011 Lakers Season...

We are the 2 time reigning champs...going for the 3Peat...you want it...you will have to go through the Lakers to get it...

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#17 Coming Up!!!

I automatically add 30 days to AB's expected return date anytime I hear one. See you in 2011 Big Fella. Get well.

This one line let's you know everything is back to normal in Lakerland...

"Jackson seemed perplexed by Bynum's December forecast."

Morning all! Nice roll call, Mamba, and great bio too - sorry I know I'm a little late for saying that.

Bynum...sigh - I think we should stop speculating on when Bynum will be back. Let's just hope it's sooner rather than later and that he's productive when he gets back. Also, that he has no further injuries for the year.

Looking forward to seeing how the new guys perform!

Morning all! Nice roll call, Mamba, and great bio too - sorry I know I'm a little late for saying that. Posted by: LakerFanInCowTown | October 04, 2010 at 09:46 AM
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Thank you sir and there is no such thing as being late with a compliment. I'll take any I can get Lol! Seriously I really appreciate it as I appreciate what you have brought to the Blog and Lakers Nation. This is going to be a great season, don't worry about Bynum, we don't need him now let the kid get that leg strong. Preseason is our street ball games, The Regular Season is our Pre-season and The playoffs is our SEASON. This season is preordained, the Lakers will 3-peat, there is no doubt about it. Just ask the Chaplain. Know what he'll tell you? It is already Done!

who will panic first?!

This is THE season, the one that will cement our dinasty for good. Kobe will be GOAT, lakers tie the chowders at #17. PJ retires. Posted by: Magic Phil | October 04, 2010 at 09:42 AM
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Magic Phil how are you this morning sir? I can't disagree with a durn thing you said. Of course I agree with mostly everything you say anyway.
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@Lewstrs...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR, Carry On!

who will panic first?! Posted by: mud | October 04, 2010 at 09:57 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS MUD, THE SKY IS FALLING, WOE IS ME! THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN 3-PEAT NOW. OH THE HUMANITY.Be serious! Who are we? We are The Freakin 16 time NBA Champions, 4 Dynasty LA Lakers & LA Lakers Nation!!! We don't panic we make other teams panic!! Carry On!

I love how Bynum is so aggressive.

He aggressively pushes back his return dates -- even without prompting.

It will be hard for him to make the All-Star team when he has pushed his return date past the All-Star break.

LakerTom,

You must be very upset with Andrew. It seems the same things you railed against Shaq for, are attributes Bynum has picked up and is beginning to master. I would be concerned going into the season with our nimble center, who apparently, is now resigned to only making playoff appearances.

I would ask that you forgive me for signalling you out for this unfortunate culmination of news. Because Andrew and his handlers refuse to take responsibility for this, you become the de facto spokesperson for Team Andrew.

I am still waiting for the press release.


Lovingly,

The Moderator

phred - It is pushing back the timetable. Andrew's original prognosis was that it would be end of November, meaning it was possible it'd be the last week of that month. So now if it's December, it's at least one week later. But keep in mind Phil Jackson said he'd only miss 2-3 weeks. I find it interesting. I'm wondering if PJ intentionally pushed up the timetable because he thought AB might take his time coming back? I wonder

MM

It's on.
The marathon begins...
slowly rollin' the pieces together, fashioned like fine art, adding a rook here, Kobe there... AB the final piece, rested and ready for the bell lap.

Let the Miami rocket burn out fade into the dry ice efx early. Champions know how to build another ring. Patience, fierce pride and heart from hell.

MAMBA24,

Thanks for always keeping me in the Laker List. Oh, and whatever you are drinking this morning, I'll have a double, ha, ha! You are rolling my friend!

MM-

Wow, I'm shocked my comment is chosen as RCOTD. Thanks.

IN OTHER NEWS, it seems the Miami Heat have become the leagues team to watch. The pressure is now on David Stern more than ever, to guide this team with his invisible hand to the most favorable destination the league could benefit from.

In previous seasons, Lebron, Dwyane, and Chris Bosh have all benefited from favorable whistles from referee's. People in "the know", as they say, have been well aware that it has been a league policy to "plateau superstars for each market". Which essentially means that each team has a player the referee's help reach their statistical peaks.

What will happen now that the three are on the same team?

Analysis to come shortly.


Respectfully,

The Moderator

Andrew Bynum better be taking liquid sea minerals. That's all I've got to say.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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GO LAKERS!!!

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Please accept my most sincere and humfelt apologogies for failing to comment on your OUT FREAKIN' STANDING profile! Norm Van Lier, of all people, was your gateway to Lakers heaven. Who knew!! Your daughters are adorable and you run the roll call like the Systems Analyst you are. You and I will meet at the Finals this season most assuredly.

Roll call ... checking in!!! Lew, do you know how good that felt? :) Exhibition game #1, the first baby step (if you want to even call it that) in PJ's quest for his fourth three-peat, Kobe's second three-peat and 6th ring to tie you-know-who, and #17 to unequivocally, categorically, and indubitably lay claim to a title the Lakers already hold ... THE GREATEST NBA FRANCHISE IN HISTORY!! That would give us 4 dynasties. FOUR! So let's start the tweaking process and stay healthy.

As for Bynum pushing back his return date, good. We want him strong and healthy in April, May and June so he should take his time. This will give Theo and Caracter more time to acclimate anyway. Meanwhile, Joakim Noah signs a 5 year, $60 mil extension, which is further evidence that NBA teams will shell out dough to injury prone big men who can't even score. Speaking of injury prone overpaid big men, his teammate Carlos Boozer sustained a nice little 2 month injury to his right 5th metacarpal (aka a boxer's fracture). She must have led with her left and he ducked it and hit her smack in the skull with an overhand right.

Go Lakers! #17 coming up STRONG!!

Jon K,

Welcome back from the summer of your discontent.

It could've only brought you great sadness that Lebron has left for greener pastures in Miami -- leaving you essentially -- stuck in Cleveland with nothing to talk about.

I jest, of course.

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Can we get an updated bio-chrono reading on Bynum and the implications of that on his newest injury update?

And also one on Chris Bosh, and how he responds to essentially being a role player now.

Thank you,

The Moderator

I know, end of November is the beginning of December, but Andrew, Andrew, what are we gonna do with you, or without you? So out for a fourth of this season without stepping on the court. Are we sure we don't want Melo? I am sorry to be so pessimistic (realistic?) about Andrew, but I was told if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well then...

"I love how Bynum is so aggressive... He aggressively pushes back his return dates -- even without prompting."

Now that is grade A comedy. I want Andrew to do good, but it seems he has taken it upon himself to be the whooping boy for the team.

A very brave soul, indeed.

Bynum is alright, how soon everyone forgets how he played hurt through the finals. He's doing the right thing....he got his head right for a couple weeks and now the body right. These sew jobs take a while to be right, and he has to let the time part go on.

I think this will be and extreme breakout, is it a half season now? Drew returns, finally consistency, and more strength. If the big boy starts filling the fast break lanes again, look out.

Take your time Mr. Bynum, and come back with fury..

Good Morning Mamba24... Awesome Bandwagon !Way to get the day rolling!!!! Lewstrs... You know you're good with that caravan too. LOL.......Also Lewstrs, if you get Direct TV, the Laker's are at on at 12:00 Pacific time. Have a great day!!

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@ MM - are you having a chat during the game...Is that proceedure...you have chats during game time...

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#17 Coming Up!!!

Preseason starts tonight!!!!

YAAAAYYYY!!!!

Is the game on any TV station? NBA TV? Prime Sports? Anything?

The game is on NBA TV. We will have a chat at 11:45 a.m.

Andrew, just take it easy. Get your knee all healthy and you can start your season in January. That way, for the first time you'll be healthy and fully hitting your stride in June. If we had a Feb/March Bynum in the playoffs, you might as well just fit the Lakers for the rings when the playoffs start. You add that to Gasol, Kobe, Artest's defense, Fisher's clutchness, Lamar's intangibles, and the three-peat is ON.

Morning blog fam! So, Bynum's out longer than reported? Eh, what else is new? Honestly the only part of this that's 'news' is that so many people are surprised. He'll come back when he comes back and we'll win the title.

I just signed up for NBA TV. Bring it on!!!

Besides, if Bynum is injured, it might actually get Derrick Caracter a bunch of minutes early in the season. If he does well, it could pay off in any one of a number of ways.

Caracter would be the PERFECT foil for Fat-Baby Davis if the Lakers face the C's in the finals. He's big like Fat-Baby, so he won't get knocked around because he's out-massed, and he has better offensive moves than Fat-Baby.

Caracter would also be useful off the bench vs Miami's weak and shallow front court (Haslem, Juwan Howard) or Orlando's backup PFs (Bass, Malik Allen), though I don't think either of those teams will make the finals.

If someone on the Lakers gets injured, then depending on who it is, Caracter could either fill in minutes (if Odom, Ratliff, or Bynum goes down), or could be a valuable trade chip if one of the guards gets injured.

If Bynum were healthy the whole season, Caracter would probably get nothing but garbage minutes, so there would be no way to know if he can do in REAL NBA games what he did in the Summer League. I have high hopes for him.

Nice roll call Mamba24 - always gets me going, especially as the Lakers prepare for their preseason debut in a little over an hour! GO LAKERS! Not worried about Bynum in the least, although someone really needs to sit the guy down and explain to him how to address the media. As far as I'm concerned, nothing's changed from the original timetable. I love how Phil is taking it all in stride. I wanna see me some DC in the early going this season!

The Lakers played 3 straight seasons in the Finals, and they are not getting younger either. I am guessing that's way more than 300 games. I don't know if any NBA team played 4 straight Final games in recent history. Well, should the Lakers shoot for the best record as their top regular season priority, or should they rest the starters as much as possible to be ready for the playoff? The Lakers could accomplish both, but still what shoud be the priority?

Good Morning (for those of you in California) from London, England!

MAMBA24 - loved the profile, and thank you for including me in the roll call. I'm going to be in front of my computer tonight watching the Lake Show play. I did try to get tix, but they were extremely expensive (especially since I might get to see a game when I return in December).

To the entire blog family - hopefully I'll see you on a game-time chat later. Time to go grab some dinner!

Hope you all are having a good start to your day!

KobeMVP888, Good Morning sir and thank you for the Kind words. I thought your Profile was Magnificent! After I submitted it I realized I had left so much out as I am sure you realized when you submitted yours. Meet up at The Finals? Sounds good to me my Brother! Thanks again and thanks for defending my Idol LakerTom and all your contributions to Lakers Nation sir.

Posted by: MAMBA24 | October 04, 2010 at 10:32 AM
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Yep. I can't believe that I didn't put Magic's HIV announcement ahead of the 24 point Chowds comeback or the Bulls first championship for the most disappointing Lakers experience. I suppose I was limiting it to "experiences" and those were things I experienced live. But nothing has eclipsed Magic's announcement. My heart just sunk.

Also, in terms of memorabilia, I save all my playoff tickets and hold the precious Game 7 ticket. Maybe I didn't include that because it isn't old enough. I also have the tee-shirt that was given out on the opening game of the 2006-07 season when the Lakers upset Phoenix without Kobe that simply says "Lights Out" and the tee-shirt that was handed out when Kobe accepted his MVP award in 2008 that says "Our Team, Our Time, Our MVP." I wear those 2 tee-shirts to the games often. I also have the MVP sign that was handed out that night which is a cool item.

Mamba24... The Bears looked like a different team from the first three games. They too will come around. It didn't help they were on their 3rd QB!! Oh, I'm watching the game, hope no one gets hurt. I said the game would be on DirectTV but for got to say NBA.TV. 216! Blonde moment!!
Bandwagon.. check
Utz Prayer. check
Go Lakers, Make us proud!!!

The kid's status has been revised, reviled, and redacted more than "Operation Dark Heart", man. Ugh...

http://www.amazon.com/Operation-Dark-Heart-Frontlines-Afghanistan/product-reviews/031260369X/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1


[dbdh]

Justanothermambafan,

I hope you appreciate how quiet I've been about Bynum.

FYI - KCAL9 is going to re-air today's game at 7p.

The Moderator,
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I have several Bio-Chrono readings I need to catch up on. Between work, script and freelance projects and working out, I find myself missing the time I need.
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One things about Bynum is that he is very mentally orientated. This will effect his healing. His slow healing has me concerned because if his will was focused on getting better at all costs, it would accelerate his healing. That doesn't seem to be what's happening.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

LOL hobbit! Yes. Yes I do.

Seriously, though. You don't need to be quiet. Just keep your responses from getting personal, don't dig too far back in the archives, and keep them under a page in length, double spaced.

Otherwise, I'll be forced to call you BAD.

(Then again, you might like that....)

LOL - you know I love you, right? :)

LOL - you know I love you, right? :) Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 04, 2010 at 11:33 AM
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WOW

LOL mamba24 - you know I love you too, right?

as long as he can play in the playoffs 100% that's fine.

HEAR YE - HEAR YE:

I love everyone on the Lakers Blog.

Except for the trolls.

OK? Is everyone happy now?

Justanothermambafan,

re: being quiet. Yes, I do. I think I've been through enough grief & there
are quite a lot of others who feel that they've been through enough grief.

re: being called BAD. I may be BAD, but I feel good.

All of this will go away if *you* will simply give me the information I politely
requested. Don't act like you don't know. Hobbits are tenacious. :)

"--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains why the Lakers may not have much more time for more championships.

--Bresnahan also reports that Lakers center Andrew Bynum may be out until December and that NBA security officials remain on alert for possible terrorism threats in Europe."

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Ugh, Mike Bresnahan is a damn stick in the mud. A Debbie Downer. A wet blanket. How about some uplifting news for once, Mike?

All I care for is a healthy and healed Bynum. He can rest until January as long as he will be the beast come play off time and this time dominate the NBA finals.

Have you ever thought that reports of his return is part of a conspiracy and also to save him for the second half/playoffs? If I was Dr. Buss, I'd save him too as my Ace in the hole card.

Go Lakers!!!

Hobbit - I will NEVER surrender the information you seek. EVER.

(You may be tenacious, but I'm just plain stubborn).

:)

Guys we got a chat up. Join in!

MM

@Justa: Love your enemies and pray for your persecutors. And just keep starving...

Justanothermambafan,

that is absolutely tragic news. my eyes weep with misery.

Game day, check!
Roll call, check!
Suds, check?
Mounting excitement for the up-coming season, check!


Our pre-season checklist is green, all systems go! Let's defend this title! Bynum out another weekish? Whatev's, we need him healthy, not soon anyway. Take your time, young master Bynum, personally would rather see you healthy at the end than at the beginning.


When did Ron get so into international competition? I'll bet he at least gets a call this time around. Ron Artest - Renaissance Man?


Loving the profiles, it's been really cool getting to know our fellow posters around here. I am of the opinion that decorum here at the forum can be partly traced to us getting to know each other a little better.


The team sounds like it's gellin' should get some extended looks at the rooks tonight, as well as Barnes and Blake.


Last night on FSN...Kobe's 81 point game! I forgot Devean George was on that team!

Now, let's see.

I'm sure that I mentioned on one or two occasions that this would happen.
By his own admission, Andrew said that this would happen. He's 'injury prone'.

And still, you insist on projecting stardom status on this young man,
when at best, all he will ever be is a very decent, part-time role player.
It seems evident that he knows this about himself, even if you don't.
I have long been a Bynum fan, but it’s time to face the writing on the wall.

OK, I'll start over.

Consider this:

It's probably a toss-up whether or not Andrew will even see meaningful minutes
this year, now or later in the season.
So, for the purpose of argument, let's say he's a non-factor for the regular season.
Do you think that you can just plug him into the Playoffs, even if he is 'healthy'?

Reality check: You've got a grandpa, and a 2nd round rookie for bigs.
They’ll play great, and excite you during the pre-season, no doubt,
but it is Pau and Lamar who will have to carry
an incredible load the entire season.

It is not unlikely, given the extra work-load, age, and the law of averages,
that either Pau, or Lamar will go down as well.
(There's no getting around it. Your team is not 'youthful').

Don't get me wrong. I love the cheerleading.
That's one of the things that makes this board so great.
But on a more serious note,
and certainly for more interesting and meaningful discussion,
imagine this scenario:

Bynum is out. Either Pau or Lamar is in street clothes for much of the season.
Ouch!

How are you even going to beat the Kings, much less Portland or Oklahoma City?

DMC is chomping at the bit!
No wonder Andrew is deferring his appearance.

Go Kings!
Go Niners! (uh-hum)
Go Giants! And Big Congrats! (It fittingly came down to the two MLB Teams on the West Coast who hate the Dodgers the most!)
Go Manny, go!
Go Boise State!
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
Trojans? We all know what they are used for. This time, the Huskies did the honors.

Sonnybelfast

Sonny -

you wish you had an Andrew Bynum on your team, injured or not...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation

#17 Coming Up!!!

Sonny -

you wish you had an Andrew Bynum on your team, injured or not...

Lakers Dynasty - The Next Generation

#17 Coming Up!!!

Posted by: LEWSTRS | October 04, 2010 at 01:27 PM

Right.

Sonnybelfast

Poor Sonny. He roots for a team that hears rings. We root for a team that WEARS them. 16 times over.


And, should you buy into that Losstown logic, it's still 11 more rings than you'll ever see. LOL!

HEY! What happened to this Post?
LOL mamba24 - you know I love you too, right? Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 04, 2010 at 11:43 AM

VERY IMPRESSIVE!

HEAR YE - HEAR YE:

I love everyone on the Lakers Blog.

Except for the trolls.

OK? Is everyone happy now?

Posted by: justanothermambafan | October 04, 2010 at 11:44 AM
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Well now that you asked...No I am not! I don't want you to Love everyone on the Lakers Blog...Just Me.


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