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Poll: Should Phil Jackson have a beard for the 2010-11 season?

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Each morning for the last week, I've addressed a preseason question that Lakers fans will likely talk about once training camp begins Sept. 25. How will Kobe Bryant's right index finger hold up this season? Can Andrew Bynum go through a season without suffering an injury? How much will the experience with Team USA affect Lamar Odom's game for the 2010-11 season?

All of these questions inspire a lot of debate and readers of the L.A. Times Lakers blog surely provided all the wide-ranging and colorful responses I can always expect from you. But Jeanie Buss, Lakers executive vice president, asks perhaps the most probing (and most important) preseason question about her boyfriend and Lakers Coach Phil Jackson via her Twitter account: "Lakers and / or Phil Jackson fans -- should Phil keep the beard this season?"

For those wanting to judge based on style points, the Orange County Register's Janis Carr put together a pretty cool slideshow highlighting Jackson's various beards, mustaches and soul patches. For the fans that solely care about which look will help the Lakers to a three-peat? Consider this: Jackson was clean shaven for the Lakers' last two championship runs. He alternated between beards, mustaches and clean shaven during the Bulls' run to six titles and the Lakers' first three-peat. Please vote in the poll below. Perhaps Jeanie will then report the poll results to Phil.

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers Coach Phil Jackson currently has a beard, as shown in a picture posted by Jeanie Buss, the Lakers executive vice president and Jackson's girlfriend, on her Twitter page. Credit: Jeanie Buss' Twitter page.

 
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The Laker franchise has had a long and illustrious history of the greatest pornstaches the league has ever seen (Jerry Buss, Kurt Rambis, Adam Morrison, etal). It's time for Phil to join this group.

PJ should leave everything like last year...No need to jinx the 3Peat...Same facial features...only thing acceptable should be a new hat with XII on it...

I think Phil should adopt whatever styling Artest chooses (both hair and facial hair)

Also, I think we should go back to discussing which Laker jersey colors are most likely to produce a win or more entertaining, what kind of things we do at home (i.e. move pillows, have kid stand on head, etc.) that are effective in helping our team win games.

Has training camp started yet? Jeesh...

Odom looked awesome in yesterday's game. Defense, rebounding, outside shots, cutting to the basket for easy lay-ins...just makes you frustrated he doesn't bring it every game, but I just don't think that's in his make up. That being said, love having him on the team and I hope he really does take the leadership skills he learned this summer to elevate the 2nd unit. I really believe he can!

Go Lakers!

"GUILTY of locoism as charged!"

You really want to know why I posted on Laker Tom and about LO/Bynum?

Try the fact the he stated that the Lakers would be better off without LO so Bynum can have more minutes.

The Lakers are better without LO? Aren't you the ones telling me about Bynum-Gasol-Odom?

What my post to LT was never about that he wanted LO gone because of his asking price (that was ironically Hobbitmage's beef about LO). It was more of just another agenda to give Mr. Bynum his stats even if it meant letting go of an integral piece of the Lakers. That includes that trade which Collison/Okafar for Odom/Walton. Nothing to be gained for a guard that was going to be buried under the depth chart under Fisher/Blake all the meanwhile losing Lamar Odom and forcing Okafur to assume a role that is completely new to him and that Okafur couldn't even probably do (ball handler at Forward).

Then the start LO at PG remarks.....yeah you get it. Well why do it besides fan remarks? What's the logic of putting a big man who is not Magic at the PG when the offense isn't even what Magic worked under?

I hope you re beginning to see a trend.

PJ should leave everything like last year...No need to jinx the 3Peat...Same facial features...only thing acceptable should be a new hat with XII on it...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 13, 2010 at 04:14 PM
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I agree! And Artest should use #37, why change?

PJ should leave everything like last year...No need to jinx the 3Peat...Same facial features...only thing acceptable should be a new hat with XII on it...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 13, 2010 at 04:14 PM
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I'm superstitious. He was clean shaven for the back-to-back championships, but now that he's already grown back the facial hair is the cat already out of the bag?

Let's see, for his two Bulls three-peats in 1993 and 1998, I believe he was bearded, but in 2002, for the Lakers' three-peat, he only wore a 'stache. This must be a terrible dilemma for him. Should he just grow back a 'stache as he did in 2002 with the Lakers? Should he go clean shaven because he's undefeated the last two seasons with no facial hair? Or should he go for the hat trick with three bearded three-peats?

I don't know about you, but I'm a complete mess about this one! :)

LFICT - Phil rockin' a Tru Warier cut would be awesome.

I hope you re beginning to see a trend.

Posted by: KB Blitz | September 13, 2010 at 04:42 PM
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Maybe I do, maybe I don't. Here's what I see:

1) Tom wants Bynum to develop and believes that the more minutes he gets, the faster he will develop and the better the Lakers will be off for it. I think that's an opinion that is extremely logical. I would like to see Bynum play 36-38 mpg this season. I know a fan in another forum who loves Lamar and chastises Bynum because he wants Lamar to start and thinks the Lakers would be better off for it. There is no question that he comes down on Bynum for that very reason. I don't see the reverse to the same extent with Tom because Tom's posts are more rational than the fan I'm talking about.

2) Lamar drove me crazy all last season, but as you know, I think his value is not only intangible at times, it's invisible at others. In other words, he can be having an absolutely horrible game, but somehow his +/- numbers are still in positive territory. And yes, up until now Pau-Bynum-LO is the most versatile 4-5 combo in the NBA. The Thunder, with Jeff Green and Ibaka, scare the crap out me though (figuratively). Now they added Aldridge, too, and I'm sure they figured out to have Durant guarding Kobe next year. Talk about formidable! But I digress...

We need all three of them (Pau, Drew, LO) and I believe that LakerTom will agree with that statement.

Except on Moses, beards look funny.

Ya gotta admit - there's someone for everyone, and LakerTom is for Andrew Bynum.

Totally O.K.

Not even close to any harm done.

Bynum is a beast. Pau is the next MVP.

Go Lakers.

I like Phil a lot. That guy can just bring things out of players other coaches dont even know are hiding inside.

Hey MM,

If you can't edit our posts, do I have to resubmit my reader profile that has the 3 misspelled words at the end? It's no problem at all.

Laaaaaaary...

Everyone's best pal. Come baaaaaaaack...

Wes

For a second there I thought the picture of Phil was a reader profile and I could not guess which one of us looked so distinguished. Laker Tom was the only name that came to mind.

But it's Phil. In case anyone was wondering.

Wes

Otis,

You don't buy the beard as sign of maturity and wisdom? I do...kind of.

Wes

I'm fine with whatever makes Jeannie Buss happy.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

Phil should roll with whichever look he's feeling the most, just as long as it brings the Lakers a 3peat.

I voted for Phil to reprise the soul patch - I just think the time is right. Artest, for better or for worse, has already decided to scrap #37 in favor of #15 (his old number at St. John's) - does that mean we can't refer to him as "Thriller" anymore? That would suck...
And although I really think Larry deserves this time off to collect himself, I SERIOUSLY hope and pray that he's back in time for the start of camp on 9/25.

Surprise surprise...Riley feels Lebron is getting a bad rap. See an excerpt from his interview on with Dan Le Batard below. Also below is the link for the full interview.
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On those that say LeBron took a shortcut and won’t live up to Michael Jordan-like expectations:

“I won’t say it, because do you have a 10-second beep thing there? It’s BS. That’s what I would say to it. I really do. I think that’s a joke. That’s just people who want to say something for the sake of saying it. I’ve been at it five decades and I know what a championship team looks like and you better have three great players if you want to win multiple titles or you want to be a dynasty.”

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2010/09/13/pat-riley-isnt-apologizing-for-bringing-the-big-three-together/
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Hmmm...I'm trying to figure out what 3 great players the Bulls had or Lakers 2000-2002.

Also funny how Riles blasted Barkley, but didn't mention Larry, MJ or Magic who all said the same thing about Lebron taking the easy way out.

How about fu manchu mustache this time?

@BLITZ.. Don’t you get it yet? Nobody is interested in what you think of me or what I think of you. Time to just move on and stop obsessing over my posts. Just scroll by and act like I’m not here. That’s what I plan to do with respect to your posts. How about it? Enough is enough. :-)
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TOM

"I don't see the reverse to the same extent with Tom because Tom's posts are more rational than the fan I'm talking about."

You still don't get it.

The Lakers would be BETTER without LO according to Laker Tom so Bynum gets his minutes to become a Beast.

Agree with me that LO is needed and that Bynum continues to yield minutes to Gasol and Odom or agree with Tom (then because the Laker Tom now finally realizes the value of Odom and shouldn't have traded Odom for Collison) that the Lakers would be better off without LO just to let Bynum get minutes?

Don't bring up how you thing LO was underrated or a fan from another forum said this or that. Please answer the question.

Laker Tom and KB Blitz -- Here here. Guys, I love your passion and strongly held viewpoints. I see both sides to the argument. And you guys haven't done anything wrong. But I see the tension brewing and I just want to preempt and ask that it doesn't cross that line. Agree to disagree. Even if you guys have differing viewpoints, there's NO NEED to say the other one is stupid etc. I'm moderating comments so nothing bad will get through but just wanted to take some preemptive action because I don't want either of you to get angry.

MM

Laker Tom and KB Blitz -- Here here. Guys, I love your passion and strongly held viewpoints. I see both sides to the argument. And you guys haven't done anything wrong. But I see the tension brewing and I just want to preempt and ask that it doesn't cross that line. Agree to disagree. Even if you guys have differing viewpoints, there's NO NEED to say the other one is stupid etc. I'm moderating comments so nothing bad will get through but just wanted to take some preemptive action because I don't want either of you to get angry.

MM

Posted by: Mark Medina | September 13, 2010 at 06:39 PM

I know MM. I'm not calling Laker Tom stupid or anything. He's a great guy and I like him as a great friend.

Thanks for the heads up.

Wes; As I said, only on Moses. Phil's a good looking man - why hide behind the fuzz?

He should go for a full, ZZ Top beard. It'll cause much debate and speculation. Opposing teams will become distracted, referees will become nervous and start swallowing their whistles. Bloggers will forget all past differences and focus solely on "the beard".

@KOBEMVP… “We need all three of them (Pau, Drew, LO) and I believe that LakerTom will agree with that statement.” I think the last two NBA championships certainly attest to that.
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I think I’ve been one of the most consistent posters to trumpet this theme since early last year. Next to Kobe, the Bynum/Gasol/Odom front court is our biggest weapon and matchup advantage. It’s forcing opponents to face an all-star quality 5/4 duo on the floor for all 48 minutes of the game. And Lamar Odom’s versatility and willingness to come off the bench is a big key to it working.
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I have stated many times that I don’t have any illusions, unlike certain other bloggers, that I know better than Jerry Buss, Mitch Kupchak, and Phil Jackson how best to manage and coach the Lakers. Far as I am concerned, they’re the judge and jury that determines whether I’m right or wrong. I may nitpick or question a draft pick or free agent signing but in the end I do trust Jerry and Mitch. On issues like trading Odom or starting Farmar, I fully admit I was wrong but I don’t keep score. People know I’m more interested in unique insights or observations than always being right.
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My issue regarding re-signing Lamar Odom was concern whether Jerry Buss might then not allow the team to spend the MLE next season, which would have meant we could not have signed Blake. I mentioned as a “possible” benefit to not re-signing Lamar that Drew might get more minutes. That was never a “motive” for not re-signing Odom. And bottom line, as always, I said I trusted Jerry and Mitch to make the right decision, which in retrospect, I think we all agree that he did.
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Which brings me to the big issue with Blitz and what I had always thought were misrepresentations and exaggerations by him of my positions, statements, and opinions. Listening to him continue to rant, it’s obvious that he really believes all those things he says about me. I realize now that what I say and what Blitz thinks I say are often two entirely different things. It’s like he gets so emotional that he misses every third word I post in his eagerness to respond. I respect his basketball IQ and knowledge and we usually agree on almost everything but Bynum. Anyway, I just want to be able to post without the negative echo for a change. I’m as tired of it as everyone else but I’m not going to stop saying what I think about Andrew just because Blitz disagrees. Takes the fun right out of it.
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MM - can you post Laker Tom's and KB Blitz's profiles simultaneously...

So we can argue about whose is better...

LMAO...just kidding...

KobeMVP888,

you wrote some very interesting things including:
What I do for a living has nothing to do with my Lakers' fanhood. I suppose that compared to your friends, I must be an incompetent shyster. I must compliment you though; you do an excellent job of antagonizing people. Lew, is this guy beton42 in disguise or what?

So what you are saying is that I should stay out of anything regarding your two on one tag team handicap match against LakerTom because I don't have ALL the facts. The way I see things is that when it comes to LakerTom or my defense of him is that your tag team partner takes snippets of what LakerTom (or I) posts out of context and spins them in such a manner as to misrepresent what he (0r I) was saying and then, when he tags you and you jump into the ring, you aim below the belt and discredit everything he (or I) says. In Tom's case it's because you don't care much for him and his opinions and, in my case, it's because I haven't been a part of your little fraternity for however many years (AND because you don't care much for me and my opinions, of course).

All I know is what I read and, from what I can tell, you exaggerate what Tom says to make yourself try to look good and then you belittle Bynum to the point of forcing LakerTom to defend him. And that's just the current stuff that I don't have to comb through any archives for. Perhaps it's a two edged sword going back in time, but I view you guys as the antagonists since I've been here. Those, sir, are my first impressions and you know what is said about those! Tom is just excited about Bynum's potential and is extremely optimistic about his future. Big deal.

my response: It was never my intention to imply that what you do should
affect your love for the Lakers. If you took it that way, then you should know
that you misunderstood me. You may wish to disagree with the above
statement, but does it really get you anything to believe that I'm lying to you?

re: my conversations with LakerTom. No ... This is a Lakers blog and we
should be free to discuss things pertaining to the Lakers. A couple of
bloggers, Vasa & Otis (?) actually commented on what LakerTom had done
in the past. You chose to ignore people telling you that the conversation
b/n LakerTom and I was not a spur of the moment thing. That it had been
going on for some time. That LakerTom was not without some culpability
for the fight.

re: KB Blitz taking things out of context. Your are certainly welcome to
your opinion. However, I would ask you this. If you haven't been reading
LakerTom's posts about Bynum for the last 3 years then how do you know
if KB Blitz is taking things out of context? Did you catch that? LakerTom
has been posting about Bynum for the last 3 years. Actually, it's closer
to 4 or 5, but let's not quibble.

So ... after 3+ years don't you think people on this blog have an idea about
what LakerTom is or is not saying? Don't you think we might be able to put
things in context? It's not like we don't have a large sample of his posts on
this subject. Once again, there were other bloggers who have commented/
substantiated/agreed with KB Blitz's understanding about what LakerTom
has or has not said regarding Bynum & LO.

re: your opinion of me. Ok. If it gets you through the night. However, I
have a question for you. If someone saw 1 or 2 of your posts to me or KB
Blitz and took a negative opinion of you. If when you tried to explain
yourself by giving context they refused to believe you. If when you gave
them an opportunity to research the situation and they refused because
they had taken an instant dislike to you, how would you feel?

I happen to be black. I have had the cops called on me by white people
because of the color of my skin. Multiple times. I have lived with prejudice
and oppression for a significant part of my life. Your refusal to actually try
and find the truth feels a lot like prejudice to me. No, I can't blame it on the
color of my skin. That doesn't negate how it comes across to me.

So the real question is this: Are you OK with people thinking that you are
prejudiced? Are you really ok with people thinking/knowing that you
don't care about what's true? That the only thing that is important to you
is "how you feel about something"? That you are willing to make snap
judgments without actually trying to verify facts?

I don't mind if people disagree with me. I don't mind if people interpret facts
differently than I do. That has happened multiple times on this blog and it
has never resulted in the name calling that my conversation(s) with LakerTom
did. C'est la vie.

re: LakerTom just being excited about Bynum's potential. You are certainly
welcome to your opinion about LakerTom. After having read his posts for
3+ years and watched his debating style or lack thereof for the last 3+
years I have a different opinion. To each his own.

Be well.

Yeah - ZZ Top beard - I'll sign off on that one.

I voted Yes because I know Phil being a baby boomer, there are some years he is too lazy to shave every other day. Like what Wes said, baby boomers always find a niche of their outlook or looks. It may be sign of wisdom, rebel w/o any cause, intimidation but the actual reason is plain lackadaisical laziness to be clean cut. They always want to try new things as they come to age.

Great intervention MM, LakerTom and Blitz got to move on with your positions. The subject matter is becoming trite, let's wish for a good season for Drew.

Larry, Mamba24 you got to move on to whatever perceptions of rejection you're imagining in the recent past. Being the gatekeeper of the blog, you have a vital duties to the Laker nation, got to focus on people who admire u and cast aside those who envy you. Get back to the blog by the orders of your perceived mentor.

@ LEWSTRS:

"MM - can you post LakerTom's and KB Blitz's profiles simultaneously...

So we can argue about whose is better..."

I've got a series and now have jury duty this week, so I have to jury all day, and work all night... but that was such a good post I had to say: rock on!

"I don't see the reverse to the same extent with Tom because Tom's posts are more rational than the fan I'm talking about."

You still don't get it.

The Lakers would be BETTER without LO according to Laker Tom so Bynum gets his minutes to become a Beast.

Agree with me that LO is needed and that Bynum continues to yield minutes to Gasol and Odom or agree with Tom (then because the Laker Tom now finally realizes the value of Odom and shouldn't have traded Odom for Collison) that the Lakers would be better off without LO just to let Bynum get minutes?

Don't bring up how you thing LO was underrated or a fan from another forum said this or that. Please answer the question.

Posted by: KB Blitz | September 13, 2010 at 06:36 PM
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Actually, I totally get it. You cut and paste comments to debate whoever it is you're debating (usually Tom or me), take the comments completely out of context and try to sell your tag team partner and whoever else is in your entourage on your misrepresentations. Let's call it the Blitz Spin Zone.

I understood the out-of-context spin you put on your argument in an effort to persuade me, but it just didn't work because from the posts I have read from Tom, I don't believe he has an agenda to trash LO to boost Bynum. He fully understands LO's value and LO's inconsistencies. He also would like the Lakers to get younger and quicker at the lead guard position. The dots you connect and attribute to Tom as his one and only agenda .... LO for Collison = more minutes for Bynum ... are mean spirited. Tom may have believed that LO and Walton for Collison and Okafor could have improved the Lakers because: 1) Bynum is ready for more minutes, 2) it improves the lead guard position and 3) Okafor would be an adequate replacement for Lamar. What is wrong with that logic whether you agree or disagree with it? Instead, you paint Tom as the devil by repeatedly accusing him of having an ulterior motive. I am certain that he has a much more in depth understanding of the Lakers than you give him credit for. If you think that he's all about Andrew Bynum, and ONLY about Andrew Bynum, then I believe it is you who still doesn't "get it," sir.

So the answer to your question is YES, I see a pattern. It's a pattern of carefully spun, self-serving distortions by you which are designed to destroy a valuable contributor to this great forum because he doesn't agree with your view of Andrew Bynum.

@HOBBIT & BLITZ… Seriously, this has got to stop. I apologize for anything I may have said in the past that you took as an insult and I will go out of my way to avoid saying anything in the future. It’s a new season. Let’s put this all behind us and start fresh as friends and keep it that way. OK?
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Well I have watched the back and forth, and my conclusion...

If I were ever to start a debate team...it would be:

Laker Tom
KB Blitz
Hobbitmage
KobeMVP888
LRob
justanothermambafan

I think the knowledge, writing skills, and demeanor is loaded with this roster...I don't think any other team could match up....and if the other team wants to get physical...justa and the throat punch is the most deadly weapon out there...

Sonny Belfast...care to form a team and take on my 'Dream Team'...MM can post a chat...and you can even pick the topic (BB related)...and we can boogie...

Off Topic: I went to Celtic Blog and they are giving themselves a heluva of good summer season for the way they handled their F/A's and new players.

Team Name: Boston Celtics

Last Year's Record: 50 - 32
Key Losses: Tony Allen, Rasheed Wallace
Key Additions: Jermaine O'Neal, Shaquille O'Neal, Delonte West, Von Wafer

~~I noticed they needed the help of two ex Lakers to beef up their line up. There is no new blood except Rondo. Therefore, my conclusion maybe next season and maybe never.

This may be too crazy, but I want a

"PJ SHOULD DON AN ARTEST HAIR DO BANDWAGON!"

With discipline we should . . .
Play It Freaky To the Threepeat!!

Showtime is back with attitude and fun!

GOOOoooOOOOO LAKERS !!!!

I don't want to address this at anyone but if the shoe fits.......
A friend of mine sent me an email he gets as google jokes humor fun page.

I was roflmao and had to share. Please no one take it as something said to them. Just a general statement. ;-))

IDIOT.
Never argue with an idiot.
They pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

Just had to share. LOL

hobbitmage

Why would you bring race into this? I'm Jewish and was raised in a somewhat anti-Semitic small town in northern New Jersey, so please don't bring "prejudice" into this because I understand it first hand. I'm liberal and color blind for what it's worth.

Since I have been here, KB Blitz has repeatedly cherry picked one sentence out of my posts and then he spins it into a misrepresentation. Here's an example. Recently I commented that Bynum's salary is in proportion to other NBA bigs considering his talent and upside. Blitz cherry picked the sentence where I said that Bynum's salary wasn't disproportionate, deliberately ignoring the context in which I put it, and then compared his salary to Chris Paul, Paul Pierce and whoever the hell else who wasn't a center or power forward, but is a star in this league. That's just ONE example and there have been many since my arrival. In fact, he does it almost every time he responds to me.

So please don't accuse me of ignoring the truth when someone is constantly trying to CLEVERLY pull the wool over everyone's eyes. KB Blitz is clearly a very intelligent guy. I respect his knowledge, but don't agree with him in many respects. And I don't need 3+ years to understand who is being civil and who is being mean spirited here. Just look at the way he addressed me in his last post to me.

Read LakerTom's post at 7:10 p.m. That is a truthful post from a warm human being.

Laker Tom/KB Blitz,

In light of MM's recent post to you guys I've selected a song that exemplifies your situation. You should know by now I've got a song for every situation... I can't help it.

Anyway there's ain't no good buy. There ain't no bad guy...

Oh and before anyone knocks this artist do know that he played with Jimi Hendrix on his classic recording of, "All Along the Watchtower" (phred's favorite)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8_FOQ7-P30&feature=related
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FYI...I enjoy your back and forth banter on all things AB and AB related as long as nobody hits below the belt.

I know MM. I'm not calling Laker Tom stupid or anything. He's a great guy and I like him as a great friend.

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: KB Blitz | September 13, 2010 at 06:48 PM

With friends like these...

I hesitate to comment on this blog, because it is so insular and I can only imagine the ripplings amongst the tribe at the outlanders unwelcome remarks. I have, however, been reading said blog for years because of the good info and interesting points and how they help me deal with my own lakerholism before, after, in between games and, unbearably, in between seasons, and in this case feel compelled to write. Oh sorry, I mean in between championship seasons. But anyway, why I'm writing here is because this bickering has got to stop, people - it's really not serving a purpose. I think it's because everybody's going just a little loco waiting for something - training camp, anything - to begin. But c'mon folks. Please. Some of us do read the blog a lot more than write - because it is interesting, fun and informative. But the bickering - none of those. And besides, it feels better if Laker fans are getting along.

Lou - I appreciate you being with us for a while, but as a first-time commenter, welcome! I agree with that as well. Let's stop the in fighting. Your favorite team won a championship. Feel free to disagree and debate, but remember this is sports. This is supposed to be fun.

MM

@LROB…Pretty cheesy but thanks for the thought. LOL. Time to move on.
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Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 13, 2010 at 08:40 PM

Another of your tirade that again dodges most of the question just for that attitude of "I'm Mr. Right".

For that answer you gave to a previous question of mine, again you just go and make it seem like Laker Tom is know it all (no offense LT) and that I'm wrong simply I don't agree on his views on Andrew Bynum.

Not to mention you never answered my question:

Would the Lakers be better without Lamar Odom or not? One question and you spin it so I'm the bad guy you and Laker Tom are the angels of the blog.

I don't know of I should expect a really straight answer from you. Even Laker Tom is showing more maturity than you have ever.
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Laker Tom deal. I'm sorry too man. That being said lets not do anymore the Bynum Tom or Tweedle Dee or Twiddle Dum ok?

And tell your attack tag team partner to stop being so emotional about a blog.

Right - came in a little hot there, sorry MM, and apologies where appropriate all around. Actually, it was kind of my point that it's supposed to be fun, which is why the arguing on the board prompted the comment. Best to lead by example though, Rafterman. Good point. Thanks for the welcome. Everybody have fun, agree to disagree, avoid the personal invective (Rafterman listen up, and stop referring to yourself in the third person). Will duck out of the way, carry on, ladies and gents.

They have improved their frontcourt. Let me tell you the ways.

1 KRISTIC is back in his old form when he was playing healthy for New Jersey as he recently showed in FIBA for Serbia.

2 SERGE IBAKA last year is just learning what he can do in the NBA as a rookie with no name while doing impressive play. Now he knows he can block and alter a lot of shots in defense and has a decent mid range shot for offense. He successfully put Odom on his shadow with his length, athletic ability and strength.

3 BJ Mullens, a seven footer who did not see action last year as a rookie in the playoffs has nothing but learning curve.

4 Cole Aldrich, another 7 footer brought in as a #11th pick in the 2010 NBA draft.

5 Jeff Green is an undersized strong F.

6 Kevin Durant has now reach 6' 10 inches, his wingsapn and length says he can now play at PF against Gasol or Odom and put Green on Artest at SF position.

Looks to me Thunder has size advantage already brewing.
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 13, 2010 at 01:33 PM
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Staples 24 - I agree that they've improved their frontcourt. But its not improved enough for me to worry. Are you worried about them?

I should've been more specific and talked about OKC improving their 4-5 positions.

Kristic back to his old form...assume you mean he's hitting his jump shot from 12-15 ft. He's not a defender. Thus, he doesn't concern me because he couldn't guard Gasol then....and now he can't guard Gasol or Bynum.

BJ Mullens yes he's a 7footer with some offensive skills...but he's so green..doesn't have a good grasp of the game and is indifferent to playing defense. I wasn't worried about him when MSU played OSU...so I definitely not worried about him against the two time defending NBA champs.

Cole Adrich - big body, decent defender and good rebounder. He will help them defend the post & paint better, but he's still a rookie.

Ibaka - now that's where OKC's biggest 4-5 position improvement can come. He did a good job of neutralizing LO last year and definitely had the intimidation factor going. How much will he continue to improve?

JGreen - pls continue to let him guard Pau...pls I beg of you Scott Brooks

Durant - great player, but do you really want him checking Gasol? I think not.

Again I agree that OKC has improved their 4-5 positions, but the Gasol/Bynum/Odom trio is still a big advantage. So I'm still not worried about OKC, are you?

Now if KD takes another big step forward...then I might start to worry.

@BLITZ… One problem through all this is that I can’t tell when you’re kidding or not, Blitz. I know you like to talk smack and I don’t mind it if that is what it is but we both have a bad habit of liking to rub in and not knowing when to stop so let’s both be careful and it’ll be fine. Looking forward to enjoying the season with you. Hobbitmage…. How bout it? You have my apology. Let’s move on.
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TOM


Always great to have another Lew/Lou aboard...

Welcome to the crew Lou...

I think the knowledge, writing skills, and demeanor is loaded with this roster...I don't think any other team could match up....and if the other team wants to get physical...justa and the throat punch is the most deadly weapon out there...

Sonny Belfast...care to form a team and take on my 'Dream Team'...MM can post a chat...and you can even pick the topic (BB related)...and we can boogie...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 13, 2010 at 07:53 PM
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Lewstrs - That debate team only if your wit & haikus are part of it.

@BLITZ… It’s funny you mention KobeMVP88. If any of my criminal past ever catches up with me, you know who I’ll be turning to as my attorney. I was actually feeling sorry for you and Hobbit. KobeMVP888 (Damn, we do at least need your first name, it’s not like your handle gives us any friendly nickname or abbreviation) has become a true friend in the very short time I’ve known him. I think you will find he will be more than pleased to see the level of confrontation turn to friendly. But it’s always comforting to know that there are bloggers out there whom you can truly count on. After all, we all have bigger fish to fry in the form of the Celtics, Magic, Thunder, and Heat.
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TOM

Re KB Blitz/LakerTom,

Why won't this silly feud die? Seems clear to me that blitz's pettiness and strange obsession with LakerTom won't let it die. As we've all figured out by now, blitz is passionate about the game, but he takes himself WAY too seriously on this blog. The fact that he's now digging up people's comments from years ago shows that he's unwilling to let go of the past and let bygones be bygones.

Blitz, really, get over yourself. I've exchanged my fair share of jabs with LakerTom over the years, but he's been man enough to apologize whenever he's been in the wrong. Time for you to show some maturity.

LakerTom - guilty as charged on the cheese factor...lol. But Dave Mason is a talented artist.

Rafterman - Good stuff. Extra points for being able to poke fun at yourself. I hope you post more often.

Would the Lakers be better without Lamar Odom or not?

Posted by: KB Blitz | September 13, 2010 at 09:17 PM
=====

You know my answer to that question, so why are you even asking? What exactly is it that you are trying to prove? I saw what you were doing and LakerTom set it straight himself. The more condescending you are, the less cooperation you are going to get from me. Try addressing me like LRob or LakerTom or Lewsters or Edwin Gueco or ALMOST everyone else does and I'll be happy to give you a direct answer. For now, I'll pass on the direct response, but I'll gladly accept a direct apology from you for your most recent belittling, disrespectful, nasty remarks.

P.S.- I thought you wanted me to respond to whether I was starting to see a trend. I called it a pattern, but I described it in detail. Sorry.

Dave Mason played on the Jimi Hendrix recording of "All Along the Watchtower?" I think not. He did record his own version on Columbia Records about five years later.

OK then...so, on that note - I think Phil should adopt the full-on Joaquin Phoenix "I'm Still Here" look...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3749544192/nm0001618
...with Jeannie's permission, of course...

Hey guys we got a new post up. Enjoy

MM

Time out guys, go back to your corners and back to square one. Let's go back to the Age of Chivalry where courtly manner are practiced by gentlemen.

Quoting the bible: "Job opens his mouth for no good reason and talks a lot without having any knowledge."

KobeMVP888,

*sigh* were you not paying attention to what I wrote?

you wrote: Why would you bring race into this? I'm Jewish and was raised in a somewhat anti-Semitic small town in northern New Jersey, so please don't bring "prejudice" into this because I understand it first hand. I'm liberal and color blind for what it's worth.

my response: I wrote: No, I can't blame it on the
color of my skin.

That sentence mans that I'm not bringing race into it. Yes, I mentioned that
I'm black. That gives context to the statement: Your refusal to actually try
and find the truth feels a lot like prejudice to me.

Does that clarify things for you?

you also wrote: So please don't accuse me of ignoring the truth when someone is constantly trying to CLEVERLY pull the wool over everyone's eyes. KB Blitz is clearly a very intelligent guy.

my response: If you wish to have this opinion of KB Blitz, knock yourself
out. However, *I* specifically suggested that you go back and look at the
past in order to know what was true and what was not true. You chose not
to do that. So, how are you *NOT* ignoring the truth? How can you actually
know the truth without reading it/getting context, in regards to the
conversations with LakerTom?

As a lawyer, don't past ruling influence current rulings to some degree? Yes,
judges can change things. However, don't lawyers actually use past cases
to bolster their arguments for present cases?

LakerTom,

you wrote: Seriously, this has got to stop. I apologize for anything I may have said in the past that you took as an insult and I will go out of my way to avoid saying anything in the future. It’s a new season. Let’s put this all behind us and start fresh as friends and keep it that way. OK?

my response: So, when I offered an olive branch a couple of weeks ago ...
KobeMVP888 actually mocked my effort. *sigh*

Yes. Let's be civil towards each other. It's much nicer that way. Thanks for
the offer. Apology accepted.

Go Bynum!
Go Lakers!!!


EJk,

Wasn't I the one who warned you about Lebron James when you were posting like mad for us to get him?

I'm glad that you see the light now even though you had to be a Witness to his decision to see him the way he is.

Top 5 player I'll give him that.
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KobeMVP888,

I know the answer too. The point was to see why I felt that way about Laker Tom when then he was willing to let LO. Did he trust the front office? Of course I never said he did not. The fact he wanted LO go partly was because to get Drew his minutes. I understand the logic he made...that being said it was still illogical to give up a vital cog in the line up just so another player can have the opportunity. Yes I know we did give up Ariza but we still got Artest while there was no one to replace LO.

That being said Laker Tom would go crazy if the simple remosted hint that we could lose Bynum to another team which he did back in 08.

I've known Laker Tom longer than you so I kinda know his tendencies more over the years especially about Bynum so do please excuse why I see his promotion of Bynum as an "agenda" considering his posts the last years. Does that make me hate him? Of course not and people like you EJK are blowing this out of proportion.

I will apologize KobeMVP888 but also I do not want to also see the "tough patrolling man" that sometimes you give me or to Hobbit. I would also be more civil but also that attitude towards us makes me a little edgy when I have to post to you since sometimes you really do act emotional and that you would yell at us if we met in real life.

So I apologize but again please don't act like a policeman around us.

wes - For the profiles I can edit them for spelling and such. But I can't reword posts. If you want something completely changed, just resend it.

Thanks man,

MM

LRob made some good points about OKC improvements. They are going to be a better team this year with more wins. Hopefully, they will improve enough so we don't have to face them in the playoffs until round 2 or the WC finals. Let some other hungry teams wear them down a little in the playoffs, or eliminate them.

Portland can also be quite formidable IF they can stay healthy for a change.

Not a lot of Laker players have had lots of tattoos. Is Matt Barnes the prize winner in this body art form?

The silver haired and bearded Phil Jackson sitting on his King Size chair at court side, calm and quiet, classy, organized, leading the team to his Fourth 3PEAT ... let his final season begin. Will the powers that be finally give him a Coach of the Year? I'm on that bandwagon.


We have officially reached the lowest point of the off-season.


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