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More Lamar Odom news: Team USA's co-captain talks


Again, wish I had more time to give this a Mark Medina-esque spin, but I'm kind of crushed with workload this evening. Just wanted to point out that Lakers forward Lamar Odom took some time Thursday to chat with beat writer Broderick Turner about Team USA and his role as co-captain.

The Big Versatile, as I like to call him (anybody dig that nickname? -- I'll never use it again in print if you do not), has been pressed into duty as the squad's starting center since most of the superstar big men are taking this summer off from the national team following a gold-medal performance two summers ago in Beijing.

His numbers haven't been spectacular, but as a senior statesman on the team he's taking his role as co-captain seriously. Hope you enjoy the article.

-- Dan Loumena

Photo: Lamar Odom looks to pass after Iran's defense collapses on him during a drive Wednesday. Credit: Ibrahim Usta / Associated Press

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I prefer calling him "Squeegee".

He cleans up the glass so nice.

More like the Versatile Enigma. One night he performs well in one or more of so many areas. Next night, not so well. He's a great player but his consistent inconsistency drives me crazy!

I like to call him NASCAR cuz he can only go left.

Larmar is USELESS, need to trade this Clown while he still has a little value.

I would love to call him 6th man player of the year. Make it happen LO.

Are you Hispanic/Latino or just well versed in Spanish. I noticed with the accents you used a Spanish keyboard. Solamente curioso. Translation Just curious.

"Without Lamar, the Lakers would not have made it to the Finals the last three years. ...and..... would not have won two of them."
- Fatty

JustaLakerFan -

I'm actually an 'Island Boy' Filipino...but I do speak some Spanish...helps with the Hispanic clients....

Of course my Spanish vocabulary consists mostly of cuss

And the Philippines were under Spain for 200 years, so alot of it bled into the dialect and surnames...

Odom should be called Sugar Rush...

Sometimes he plays great...and sometimes he he didn't get his sugar fix...and is playing lethargic...

But I agree...I would love to call him Best 6th Man...for 2011...

At keast your heart is in the right place Dan. You're actually feeding the monkeys instead of poking them with a stick.



Fatty- which article was that from? And it is true, I suppose. Funny.

Here's clip of Kareem on usual...he is very dry, and you don't know when he is joking...I actually talked to my friend's girlfriend, who use to be Kareem's live in girlfriend for a while...and she said that the man lacked a sense of humor...


Good article. Bad nickname. Any nickname with the Big ------ is too close to the Big You Know Who.

It looks like Lamar is enjoying himself and it good to see his competitive side come out, even if he was only kidding, saying he could have two titles in one year...something Kobe doesn't have.

Hey Wes,

Much appreciated. My heart is in the right place, my head is a little muddled with two other colleagues who help on the web on vacation this week, leaving us a bit short-handed heading into the holiday weekend.

Kudos to the Lakers faithful for sticking with us and giving me a chance.

And you know that scene in 'The Other Guys' where Marky Mark tells Will Ferrell that he has to stick up for his partner, it's part of the code. I've got to stick up for Barry. I work closely with the Lakers editor/writers/blogger, so I'm always talking hoops with them. Some might not get it like I do, or particularly like MM, and Barry might be too busy to pitch in much, etc., but we're part of a team here all trying to pull in the right direction, kind of like the draft horses back on the farm . . . wait, I'm not that old, we had a John Deere and an old Ford tractor . . . but you get what I'm saying. I know you do.

I'll catch up to you guys later. And I will have a fresh post waiting for you in the morning.

PS: I dig the nicknames -- NASCAR, Versatile Enigma, Squeegee and Sugar Rush.

Dan Loumena
Assistant Sports Editor

Time for another edition of Kareem and Wilt. To recap we looked at their only regular season mtg in 69-70, the regular season mtgs in 70-71 and playoffs in 71. Now its on to the glorious 1972 season.

1971-72 regular season
Gm 1 November 21, 1971

Streaking Lakers Overrun Milwaukee, 112-105
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Both coaches agreed it was only one game in an 82-game schedule. But. the winning head man it was "a tremendous psychological lift hor his men". "We played well and we beat a good team," said Los Angeles Coach Bill, Sharman after his men turned back the powerful Bucks 112-105 Sunday evening before a turnaway crowd of 17,505.

The victory was the Lakers 11th in a row, tying a club record, but far more important was the fact that coach Bill Sharman's tremendous gamble of turning the old Lakers into a running team has been proven beyond a doubt.

'"Last year, the Lakers lost those playoffs to the Bucks and didn't look very good, Well, this game was a test and we passed it.' We showed we're capable of
playing with the Bucks. "And I'm sure now that we can run with any team in the league."

Assistant coach K. C. Jones 'called it 'a great defensive victory"
despite Kareem Jabbar's 39 points, Time and again, the towering Milwaukee
center had the ball taken away from him by an, alert defense. No one Laker
earned praise' in his eyes— "It, was truly a team victory."

For Jabbar, the mistakes wiped out an otherwise spotless performance.
Despite pressure by Chamberlain, the former UCLA all-American was lofting
shots in the basket from all angles.

"Kareem has nothing to be ashamed of," said Wilt. "Except for those turnovers, he played a great game. There isn't much I can do except try to force him out of the positions he likes on the floor."

The Lakers received strong performances from all their starters and one
unexpected sub, Pat Riley. A hustler, Riley outdid himself with 16 points, including six in the final period. Gail Goodrich led the Lakers with 27 points but didn't have any in the final period. West and Jim McMillian netted 23
apiece, Wilt Chamberlain 11 and Happy Hairston 9.

Chamberlain outrebounded Jabbar, 26-17 helping the Lakers to a 50-44 team
edge. "The Lakers played extremely well," admitted Milwaukee coach Larry
Costello. "The big difference this year is their movement. They sustain it '
and they don't run into each other in executing their plays."

In a brief halftime ceremony, Elgin Baylor's jersey number 22 was retired
by the Lakers. Elgin quit as a player Nov. 4 after 13 years in the NBA.

Hey LRob,

I hear you on the 'Big' needing to go. Versatile Enigma is my favorite. I like both words, and when put together really do describe LO.

You going to carry the load here awhile? No pressure, man, but I know this is your blog time.

Dan Loumena

1971-72 regular season
Gm 2 January 9, 1972

Bucks End Lakers Streak

MILWAUKEE (AP) — The longest winning streak in major professional sports
history has been snapped, but the Los Angeles Lakers are looking
forward to another shot at the Milwaukee Bucks—in the playoffs.
With a delirious capacity and a national-television audience looking on,
Milwaukee's defending National Basketball Association champions used a
fourth-quarter spurt fueled by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to snap the Lakers' 33-game string, 120-104, Sunday.

The 7-foot-2 Abdul-Jabbar hooked, stuffed and banked in 39 points—23 after the Lakers' 7-foot-l pivotman, Wilt Chamberlain, picked up his fourth foul one minute and 27 seconds into the second half. Two of Abdul-Jabbar's baskets ignited a burst in which Milwaukee outscored Los Angeles 18-2 in the fourth quarter to break open a tight, physical game
and hand the Lakers their first loss since Oct. 31.

"We played fantastic for two and a half months, and it had
to end, but I hope we're smart enough to learn by our mistakes
so we can play better against them next time," said coach Bill Sharman,
whose Lakers may meet the Bucks in the Western Conference playoffs.

Reserves Lucius Allen and John Block added 18 and 17 points for Milwaukee,
which smothered the Lakers' feared fast break and dealt them their fourth loss in 43 games. The Bucks, who on Nov. 21 became victim No. 11 in the Lakers'
fabulous streak, raised their mark to 36-8.

Milwaukee had a 58-46 spread in rebounding, with Abdul-Jabbar grabbing 20 to Chamberlain's 12. Jerry West led the Lakers in scoring with20 points, while Happy Hairston, Gail Goodrich and Jim McMillian each scored 18 and Chamberlain added 15.

"It's 'fantastic," said Bucks' coach Larry Costello. "I'm just glad we were in a position to do it. I'm glad Atlanta didn't beat them Friday night so we could have the chance."

"We're the world champions, and they aren't," exulted Costello. "It was defense. Our defense was great throughout. Everybody was playing defense, and you need a team effort." Sharman concurred. "Their tough defense kept us from running; and, when Wilt got his fourth foul, Jabbar got easier shots," Sharman said. "Their other players got easier shots, too, because we had to sag in to help Wilt, and that let Jabbar feed their other players.

"I think we were flat and didn't play well, but I give Milwaukee credit," he said.
"They were very aggressive. When the game got rough, we should have been smart enough to get rough, too, but we didn't."

West, the brilliant Laker guard, took issue with Sharman's use of the word flat but otherwise agreed. "When you can't even pass the ball to each other and keep throwing it away, it has to be something more than just being flat," said West, whose teammates committed 24 turnovers to the Bucks' 16.

"They played the kind of game we normally do—tough defense," West said. "But so many have written so much about this game they forget it's just one of 82 in the season. It may have been a different story in the playoffs. "I agree they had a big psychological advantage," he said. "You could see how the crowd reacted. They really wanted us."

Chamberlain, 35, the NBA's all-time scoring leader who has a perhaps undeserved reputation for not coming through in the big games, said Sunday's game "has to be the worst game we've played that we've lost. We only shot 29 per cent in the first half."

"I made a couple of dumb fouls which didn't help, but they played good, smart basketball and made a lot of things happen," Chamberlain said. "Basketball players can be strange, you know. When the shots go in, you play with more zest. When they don't, sometimes you can lose a little determination."
Kareem's Punch Ignites Bucks
MILWAUKEE (UPI) —Tempers flared, bands played, people shouted and perhaps the largest television audience ever to see a televised basketball game watched as the Milwaukee Bucks ended one of the most significant chapters in the history of professional sports Sunday.

The flaring temper belongs to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Milwaukee's outstanding center. Laker forward Hap Hairston was the unfortunate target of Abdul-Jabbar's outburst.

Early in the second quarter, Abdul-Jabbar went up for a shot and made it. When he came down Hairston was there and got called for a foul. But Abdul-Jabbar responded with a solid punch to Hairston's right cheek and got called for punching.

"When I came down he was under me," Abdul-Jabbar said. "That's a good way to get hurt. So I lost my temper and punched him I "just lost my temper "

"Sure I fouled him," a well-bruised Hairston said in the locker room, pointing to a nice lump on his cheek. "But I thought fouls were part of basketball. He didn't have to hit me."

Nobody would say so, but that punch might have ignited something in Milwaukee. The Bucks were battling to stay even at that point but soon started playing and took the lead. L.A. tied it up a couple of times after that but the Bucks won going away.

Abdul-Jabbar led the Bucks with 39 points—most of them scored on a new short jump shot he developed in the second half after hitting only 7 of 19 field goals in the first half, most of them hooks. "I was missing the hook so I just sort of manufactured a little jump shot in the second half and it seemed to work out all right," he said. He hit on 11 of 15 in the second half.

And Miami think they have a chance of breaking that streak. Yeah right.
Top NBA winning streaks:

Lakers 33 games 1972
Houston 22 games 2008
Bucks 20 games 1971
Lakers 19 games 2000

1971-72 regular season
Gm 3 February 4, 1972

West Scores 37 As Bucks Beaten
Jerry West who has been held fairly well in check by Oscar Robertson through their lengthy NBA careers, erupted for 37 points Friday night to lead the Los Angeles Lakers to a 118-105 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks. It was the first meeting between the two clubs since the Bucks broke Los Angeles' record 33-game winning streak.

"I went out there tonight looking to shoot the ball, said West, I don’t usually do that, but I felt I had to. I feel I play more aggressively at home." West scored 37 points, made at least nine steals, hit 15 of 26 shots, passed off for 13 assists and generated sparks in a sizzling fast break.

Milwaukee took a seven-point lead at the half but the Lakers rallied to take the lead as West stole the ball early in the second half and fed Gail Goodrich, who finished with 29 points. West added two baskets, a steal and a rebound in the next four minutes as the' Lakers broke open the game. Robertson was forced to leave the game with nearly 10 minutes left to play when he pulled a stomach muscle.

The Lakers won, said coach Bill Sharman, because of a successful running game. "We ran well in the second half and we got the ball out well to start the fast break," he said: "That's what you have to do against a pressing defense like the Bucks use—run and pass well."

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar led the Bucks with 40 points and 18 rebounds while the Lakers' Wilt Chamberlain had 18 points and 24 rebounds.

"We feel you have to let Jabbar get his points and stop the other guys," said West.

1971-72 Regular season
Gm4 March 1, 1972

Happy Days Return as Lakers Beat Bucks

Staff Writer
MADISON - All the dreadful things that happened to the Lakers in this
state last year were wiped clean Wednesday night with a victory that Mr. Ripley would have trouble believing.

From almost certain defeat the Lakers stunned the Milwaukee Bucks, 109-
108, for their 58th and most significant triumph in a season that has produced
only pleasant memories. Gail Goodrich's basket with four seconds remaining
sealed the verdict, but it was underrated Happy Hairston who was the real
architect of this victory.

The Lakers didn't win a game here last year, and five of their six losses
were by lopsided margins. Even more vital, for the time being, is that the
Lakers virtually assured themselves of the home court edge in the playoffs.
They lead Milwaukee by five games in the "lost" column with only 13 games
to go.

A defeat would have cut the advantage to three games, with one meeting
between the teams remaining at the Forum March 17.

Still another plus was that Milwaukee employed Oscar Robertson, who had
missed 12 of the last 13 games, and the "Big 0" made two critical baskets
late in the game that looked decisive. The Bucks have always felt they were
superior with a healthy Robertson.

Last, but not least, Milwaukee can no longer claim that it holds an edge
in the corners. Hairston proved beyond a doubt that he is at least equal
if not superior to Bob Dandridge.

Hairston grabbed all the key rebounds and made most of the key points
in the closing minutes after Milwaukee had assumed a 108-103 lead —
and had the ball, too — with only 1:14 remaining.

Here's what transpired in those frantic final moments:

Robertson missed a baseline jumper at 0:51 and Hairston took the rebound
and flipped a long outlet pass to Jerry West, who streaked in for a layup.

Goodrich fouled Lucius Allen at 0:37, and as fate would have, the Milwaukee
guard who had sunk an amazing 12 of 15 from the field missed both free
throws, the last of which was again taken by Hairston.

The Lakers hurried down court, Hairston wormed free in the corner and took a pass from West. A mediocre outside shooter, Hairston threaded it to make the score 108-107 at 0:29.

Robertson took control and moved in deep. He spotted Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
under the basket and tried to hit him with a pass. Wilt Chamberlain knocked it free, grabbed it and was fouled by Jabbar with eight seconds left. Now it was up to
Chamberlain, the NBA's worst free thrower, to tie or put the Lakers ahead. Since he was fouled in the backcourt, he had a bonus coming — three shots to make two.

The first missed long, the second rolled out. The fans were going crazy. The third hit the front of the rim, and Hairston was on it like a cat. Momentarily stunned, the Bucks didn't react — Hairston did. He wheeled and passed to Goodrich in the right corner. Gail had missed 10 of 15 shots but this time his jumper was true.

Milwaukee called time out with four seconds to go and almost pulled it out.
Robertson took the inbounds pass and fired the ball to Dandridge in the
corner. The slender forward got off a 20-footer that he might hit 50 per
cent of the time. This time it didn't drop.

"He's sacrificed himself all season to get us rebounds," said West of
Hairston, "and he's been just great. This was as fine a game anyone could
play on the boards." Hairston finished with 20 rebounds, nine in the last
period, and 19 points. West had 28 points and Goodrich 14. Jabbar, like West
a forgotten early hero, netted 33, including 14 in the last period. Chamberlain had 8 points.

Chamberlain was in a melancholy mood after missing those vital free
throws, but he shouldn't have been. He kept Jabbar occupied and the talented
Buck missed 20 out of 33 shots. Wilt also beat his opponent in rebounds (17-
12) and blocked shots (6-3).

"They didn't beat us," Milwaukee coach Larry Costello growled . "We gave it to them." "There is no way we could have lost it, but we did everything wrong in the last 1:34that anybody can do. "I don't mean Goodrich's shot or Dandridge's shot," Costello continued. "Even Wilt missing three free throws; it shouldn't have gotten that far."

LRob -

My picture of Kareem losing it, was when he got ejected and he did a side kick, ala Bruce Lee, on the Gatorade cooler, which exploded and spurted Gatorade every

But I would love to see the punch...if you can dig up a video...

LRob strolling down Wilt-Kareem memory lane!

I'm about to get deluged with a computer-screen full of work folks. I'll catch up to the reminiscing long after midnight when I come back up for air.

Dan Loumena

1971-72 Regular season
Gm 5 May 17, 1972

Lakers prevail - Jabbar’s 50 not enough

As an offensive performer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar may be unmatched in the history of basketball. But this is a team game. So the Los Angeles Lakers, with all their guns exploding, conceded Jabbar his 50 points and overpowered the Milwaukee Bucks 123-107 before a capacity throng of 17,507 Friday night at the Forum.

Thus the Lakers elevated their seasonal record to 65-12 with five games to go
before the playoffs. They have an excellent shot at the all-time record of 68-13 by Philadelphia in 1967. But more importantly, they assured themselves of an extra $10.000 for having the best record of the year with the victory,
as the Bucks are now at 59-19.

Nevertheless, the Lakers learned once again how lethal force Jabbar can be.
In this game he maneuvered around the key and lifted soft hook shots over the leaping Wilt Chamberlain. In all, Jabbar converted 22 of 39 field goal tries. But he missed seven straight: to close out the game when he tired.

"I feel it is my job to take more offensive responsibility with Oscar (Robertson) out,"the giant Jabbar said in the dressing room. Robertson still is recuperating from inflamed abdominal muscles. It is unknown whether he will be able to perform for the Bucks in the playoffs. We are a different team without him" admitted Jabbar. "It’s hard to say if we are as good as last year when we won the championship.”

Jabbar noted that Robertson's place was being filled by former UCLA teammate Lucius Allen, who picked up 26 points in the losing cause. "Lucius is improving all the time, it’s time he got some recognition too."

Jabbar's pyrotechnics were more than offset by the Lakers trio of Chamberlain (18 points), Gail Goodrich (22) and Jerry West (27). Chamberlain also out rebounded Jabbar 23-8. This was due to Jabbar's outside gunning which took him away from the offensive basket.

"I feel I have to take those shots," said Jabbar. ".They let Wilt play me by himself. So I have more offensive freedom. When we play Golden State, Nate Thurmond gets a lot more help from his teammates."

Jabbar got the Bucks off to an opening salvo which produced a 12-2 lead before Laker coach Bill Sharman called a timeout. It was at this point that Chamberlain went, to work inside on Jabbar trying to induce fouls. The Lakers got the ball into Wilt, who then tried to muscle his way to the basket. Jabbar picked up three fouls quickly as the Lakers narrowed Milwaukee's margin to 18-15.

"I think I induced a few more than they called," cracked Chamberlain. "Actually this worked pretty well for us because they had to collapse on me. It opened up the outside for our offense."

But Jabbar got the Bucks rolling again to bring the lead to 40-27 just into the
second quarter. He had hit eight of nine shots at that point. Then Keith Erickson and Goodrich triggered a 12-1 Laker surge that brought Milwaukee back to earth.

The two teams fought on even terms the rest of the half. But at the outset of the third quarter. Goodrich scored eight points in a 10-0 Laker blitz that produced a 72-65 lead. his way to the basket. While the 16th sellout crowd of the season howled in ecstasy, the Lakers continued to build a 96-78 advantage with two minutes to go in the period.

"We sustained our running game very well most of the game," said Sharman,
who felt the win was most important. But he feels every win is important.

Just as the Lakers felt they had it all wrapped up. the Bucks came back on
another barrage by Jabbar to close the gap to 104-102 midway through
the fourth quarter. West then delivered a series of clutch plays in s 9-0 blitz
which settled the issue. He scored seven of the nine points and batted away
a Buck pass to set up a field goal.

"It was a game of streaks," said West. "We got ours at the right time. I think we were fortunate that Jabbar wasn't hitting when we pulled away." Although the Lakers now have beaten Milwaukee four of five times (they lost one that ended their 33-game winning streak), West thinks it will be a different story in the playoffs. "Nothing we have done in the regular season will count then," he said.

As far as Kareem Abdul Jabbar is concerned, West observed, "I'd rather see anybody on their team shoot the ball but him."
The Lakers beat Milwaukee 4 out of 5 in the regular season in 71-72.
Here are Wilt & Kareem stats:

Wilt 14pts/20 rebs
Kareem 40pts/15 rebs

Like I stated in previous posts I'm sure Wilt led in blocked shots, but it was not shown in the box scores and only ocassionally in the actual stories. The newspaper achive that I subscribe to don't include the major dailies like the LA Times.

Hey LRob,

I hear you on the 'Big' needing to go. Versatile Enigma is my favorite. I like both words, and when put together really do describe LO.

You going to carry the load here awhile? No pressure, man, but I know this is your blog time.
Dan Loumena
Posted by: Dan Loumena | September 02, 2010 at 09:11 PM
Yes, I like Versatile Enigma...that's a good description. Sweet Enigma would work as well. But if we're describing LO and keeping it real you gotta put enigma in there.


Oh yeah response to you question about the some of those interesting teams in western conference in the 70's. I always thought those Bulls teams with Butterbean Love, Chet Walker, Sloan, Van Lier, Boerwinkle were very tough. I really disliked them especially Dick Motta...but I loved Chet Walker.

Also, loved to watch Rick Barry 74-76 squads. Al Attles used to play 10 guys lots of minutes. He was one of the first I remember really going deep into his bench even in the playoffs.

I go back and forth on whether the 75 Warriors or 04 Pistons had the biggest upset in history (since the 70's). I still go with the GS...but maybe that's Laker in me

LRob - do you have smoke detectors near your computer? You be on fire tonight son!



Kareem had a crazy temper in his early days. He punched the basket support in the preseason once (after being scratched in the eye by Don Nelson) causing him to miss about 15-20 games. Thus, the goggles.

He also tried to break Kent Benson's face (after being elbowed) and missed another 15-20 games. I think he broke his hand both times.

The book on Kareem was play him physical and tough. Back in those days guys could get away with a lot more. Dennis Awtrey made his rep on knocking Kareem out once. I wondering if some of that abuse is what got him into martial arts.

Anyway I see if I can find when he socked Happy. If I recall correctly Kareem snuck it in when Hairston wasn't looking. In other was a sucker punch.

LRob - good times, good times. I remember all those games from when I was a kid. I think I recall Larry Costello saying something like "The Lakers have never beaten our starting five" after we beat them 4-2 in the playoffs. I could be wrong though....


I'm just here to serve you. Here's the punch. Check the 3:50 mark.

LRob - do you have smoke detectors near your computer? You be on fire tonight son!
Posted by: Jolly Rancher | September 02, 2010 at 09:48 PM

Thanks know how we roll on the late shift.

LRob - that clip reminded me that Wilt was the ultimate enforcer. When he stepped in, all combatants stepped back.

Larry Costello saying something like "The Lakers have never beaten our starting five" after we beat them 4-2 in the playoffs. I could be wrong though....
Posted by: 63 Footer | September 02, 2010 at 10:07 PM

Yeah, Costello definitely saw things thru those "forest green" shaded glasses.
He was a good coach though. Hired Hubie Brown his first NBA job.

Sharman though was a great coach. If the Lakers had him in 69 and 70 they probably would've won a couple more ships.

LRob - yeah, Sharman really knew what to do with those guys, and they respected his game plan and him. Thanks for all the great memories, man - really wonderful stuff.

Next up: The Logo versus the Big O! (And we'll throw in Walt "Clyde" Frazier for good measure.)

LRob - that clip reminded me that Wilt was the ultimate enforcer. When he stepped in, all combatants stepped back.

Posted by: 63 Footer | September 02, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Yeah everybody knew better than to mess with Wilt. But he never really seemed to lose his temper despite all the "hack a Wilt" strategy opposing teams used. I remember reading where Heinsohn said they would just hack Wilt and send him to the line cause 1pt was better than 2pt. It would've been scary sight if Wilt really had a mean streak.

Did Wilt ever punch anyone? I've heard about him grabbing guys and lifting them in the air, but never punching anyone. That's really a credit to him that he could took more abuse than anybody and almost never lost his temper.

Doc Rivers makes the rounds:

On Shaq’s impact and if it will change the Celtics' style of play:
He won’t change our style because we want to run. We have a saying, "Let’s try to score in the first six seconds." If not, you try to execute the heck out of them. So we’re going to try to run and get easy baskets and then we’ll wait for Shaq to come down the floor. When asked if Shaq was brought in with Lakers in mind, Doc said, “Shaq has always had an upper hand on Bynum, too much for Bynum to handle and Pau is too frail to guard bib cactus”

Good to see smog laden neighbors to our south having a much more harmonious day today, a much needed departure from constant infighting and name calling. Lets see how long this prosperity lasts!!

LRob - in the later 70's, I was at a party and Jim Brown was hitting on an underage blond (the only kind we had at Pali), and she wasn't too happy about it. Jim was relentless (as only Jim Brown could be). Wilt didn't say a word, he just walked up, picked Brown up and hurled him down the hallway. Then he smiled and told Brown he'd "buy him a drink." Yeah, Wilt angry would have been scary.

You're the man, Dan.

I just wish other LA Times employees would have followed your approach to the blog these last couple of weeks.

Truly professional.


LRob - in the later 70's, I was at a party and Jim Brown was hitting on an underage blond (the only kind we had at Pali), and she wasn't too happy about it. Jim was relentless (as only Jim Brown could be). Wilt didn't say a word, he just walked up, picked Brown up and hurled him down the hallway. Then he smiled and told Brown he'd "buy him a drink." Yeah, Wilt angry would have been scary.
Posted by: 63 Footer | September 02, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Great story. Wilt's probably the only that could've pulled that off with Jim Brown.

And the Philippines were under Spain for 200 years, so alot of it bled into the dialect and surnames...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 02, 2010 at 08:01 PM


It was a bit longer than that: 1565-1898...

Interesting factoid on Wilt from Wikipedia:

"After his frustrating junior year, Chamberlain wanted to become a professional player before finishing his senior year. However, at that time, the NBA did not accept players who had not finished their last year of studies. Therefore, Chamberlain was prohibited from joining the NBA for a year, and decided to play for the Harlem Globetrotters in 1958 for a sum of $50,000."

And Miami think they have a chance of breaking that streak. Yeah right.
Top NBA winning streaks:

Lakers 33 games 1972
Houston 22 games 2008
Bucks 20 games 1971
Lakers 19 games 2000

Posted by: LRob | September 02, 2010 at 09:16 PM


One interesting aspect of that 1972 team was that the Lakers were being coached by a HOFer Celtic, Bill Sharman. Could you imagine that happening today? That would be like Larry Bird or Kevin McHale coaching Kobe and Co. Yikes...

The Snake - "One interesting aspect of that 1972 team was that the Lakers were being coached by a HOFer Celtic, Bill Sharman. Could you imagine that happening today?"

Lot less job opportunities back then. :)

LRob -

Thanks for the clip...I really enjoyed watching that...some observations:

*I forgot Oscar would shot the one handed free throw...
*Wilt was a blocking machine...
*Kareem looks so different with the afro...
*It was a sucker punch...Happy was already on the floor...
*I can't believe all he got was a personal

Thanks again for digging it up...I nominate you for Blog Historian...

Okay, trying to catch up with the last couple days.

Lewstrs- If that Mamba bus is still rollin, put me on!

Glad to see a little normalcy in the blog. It's about time!

Dan- Great job, keep it up.

Lrob- I'm loving the Kareem/Wilt posts. I missed all of Wilt and Russell, and most of Kareem, so I always love to get a "look" at those great players. One of the things that upset me about Shaq is that if he had their/Kobe's attitude and work ethic, he may have had a chance to go down as the greatest center ever (at least been right up there with those guys.)

Just finishing up at the office, which includes a fresh post ready to go at 6:30 a.m. Hopefully a morning copy editor will give it a nice little edit. The post will hopefully inspire some debate, but at the least I wanted to give you guys something new to start the holiday weekend.

And LRob, I can't believe I whiffed on the Bulls, they did have some hard-nosed guys although they were underachieves as I remember. But I, too, was a big Chet Walker fan. Remember Bob Newhart always cracking jokes on his TV show about them, something like, 'Well, I'm going to the Bulls game tonight, I don't know why . . . '

I'm heading home now. And I do know why. It's been a long, and rewarding, day.

Dan Loumena

Hey Troy B,

Appreciate the kudos. FYI: I almost chimed in the other day as i was tripping down LRob's Wilt-Kareem memory lane on who I thought were the five greatest centers of all-time and I didn't have Shaquille O'Neal on the list. He should have been, but because he couldn't stay in shape he always relied on his back-down, body-crushing moves (basically offensive fouls that never got called) instead of anything remotely resembling the 'F' word, finesse. I thought when he developed that jump hook that he'd bank in that he was about to become a monster 30-point-a-game scorer. But he reverted to Moses Malone, combat-style rock 'em, sock 'em basketball.

So, here's my five greatest centers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (very obvious), Wilt Chamberlain (VO II), Bill Russell (rings, rings, rings, etc., etc., etc.), Hakeem Olajuwon (in his prime, none better because of his athleticism) and Bill Walton (might have been the greatest if not for his fragile feet, but so good at every facet of the game that he must be listed).

Catch you and the rest of the gang tomorrow.

Dan Loumena

wow, Wilt could hardly run by that time. looking back, as a youngster, i never noticed how badly he ran. seeing footage of his mid 60's form and how fluid he was then, it's surprising. big guys can stay in the game, long after the knees stop flexing...

LEWSTRS - I had the same basic idea as you, only my nickname for Odom was Candy Man. I can only imagine how good he'd be with a proper diet and a ferocious mentality.

Hey All,

When LO came to the Lakers, he was to be a starter. He was a starter. When Pau Gasol came in he played like he was a starter who had gone to lead the second string. In the playoffs, he solidified his position as a bench player.

I pray daily that LO shows up. But, I don't expect it in order to not be disappointed.


Not cool that he has to play center. More of our USA NBA centers need to show up to play. If Lamar could just play forward, he would be dominated these euros.

JustaLakerFan -

I'm actually an 'Island Boy' Filipino...but I do speak some Spanish...helps with the Hispanic clients....

Of course my Spanish vocabulary consists mostly of cuss

And the Philippines were under Spain for 200 years, so alot of it bled into the dialect and surnames...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 02, 2010 at 08:01 PM

Good to hear your background. Yes I am very aware of Spanish influence in PI after being a colony os Spains' many moons ago. LOL.
I know about Spanish in the dialects as there are over 500 dialects spoken in PI as you know. I have been to PI many times and learned words and phrases which like you say cuss words and things you don't say to and around women. LOl.
Of course those words are mainly in tagalog.
Salamat for the info.


In response to the question of whether Wilt ever got mad with some other player, the answer is "yes" and the unforutnate soul was a former Kansas Jayhawk Clyde Lovellette. Early in his career, Clyde had elbowed Wilt in the mouth causing significant damage to his teeth. Years later, Clyde was at the end of his career playing for the Celtics. He was doing stupid things like tugging on Wilt's shorts. When Wilt's warnings were not heeded, Wilt turned and punched Clyde. Needless to say, Clyde stayed down. DDenuci



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