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Mavericks owner Mark Cuban proclaims Dallas has enough size and depth to beat the Lakers

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A slate of games in mid-January already seemed to be interesting, with the Lakers playing three games against Oklahoma City, Dallas and Denver in highly contested post-season preview match-ups. Well, the ante went up just a bit.

Speaking with reporters, Mavericks Owner Mark Cuban didn't mince words when he was asked whether Dallas can beat the Lakers this season: "Hell yes. That's it. Hell yes. We've got the size now. We've got the depth. We've got a lot more depth than the Lakers. It's not even close there." After he was asked what the team's expectations entailed after winning at least 50 games for nine consecutive seasons, Cuban raised the bar pretty high. "We're going to have so much depth that it's really going to give us an advantage this year," he said. "All our guys are coming in with one focus only and that's to win a championship. That's the goal. "

One could say Cuban isn't being as cautious as,  say, the Minnesota Timberwolves were with their recent full-page ad. Of course, Cuban's shooting from the hip tendencies and eye for headline-grabbing soundbites will eventually result in his quote getting boiled down to this: Dallas isn't afraid of the Lakers and it thinks it can unseat the defending champions. Yet, the actual substance of his comments aren't that far off base, even if they're incorrect. I don't agree with Cuban's contention simply because the Lakers are just more talented than Dallas and the Mavericks couldn't beat the Lakers in a seven-game series. I also don't think the Mavericks have better size and depth than the Lakers. But Cuban's factors warrant a good enough reason that Dallas could pose as a legitimate playoff opponent and maybe get a win or two in the regular season.

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Let's start with Cuban's contention that Dallas has enough size to contend with the Lakers. That's one of the biggest advantages the Lakers have in Andrew Bynum (7-0), Pau Gasol (7-0), Lamar Odom (6-10) and Theo Ratliff(6-10). It isn't even just the size that makes the Lakers' front line intimidating. It's the skills from each of the players themselves that present match-up problems, with Bynum's ability to get easy put-backs and close-range shots, Gasol's mid-range jumper and beautiful footwork in the post, Odom's versatility and ability to spread the floor and Ratliff's defensive tenacity.

And how do the Mavericks match up? They have Tyson Chandler, who was traded this off-season from Charlotte for Erick Dampier. Chandler (7-1) had a solid experience with Team USA, but didn't really receive much playing time and he's primarily been known as a defensive presence, although ankle injuries have made him less effective in that area. Dallas Coach Rick Carlisle expects 7-0 Brendan Haywood's offense to complement Chandler's defense, but that honestly won't be enough to win a front-line match-up with the Lakers. The Mavericks expect two-year center Alexis Ajinca (7-1) to compete for the third center position because of his youth, long arms and a good shot from the elbow. But he lacks experience. All in all, Dallas may have the size in height, but it doesn't have the same skill to match up inside with the Lakers.

Second, let's address the depth issue. I actually believe it's been an incredible misnomer last season to say that the Lakers had depth, yet it's something I constantly heard players repeat during interviews. The Lakers never, ever had depth last season. They had enormous talent in their starting five and Odom, and then the talent dipped tremendously. Even though there are many positions some of the Lakers reserves can't play, I didn't consider the team to have much depth because two significant injuries to the Lakers' starting five would have dampened their chances tremendously. Injuries were surely a factor last season, but player absences mostly never overlapped and most of the hurt players just played through thepain. This year, the Lakers addressed that issue in picking up Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. More likely, the Lakers won't be as leery of the reserves blowing leads, allowing too many open-perimeter three-pointers and disrupting chemistry.

As far as how the Lakers' depth matches up with the Mavericks? After headliners Jason Kidd and Dirk Nowitzki, former Laker Caron Butler will see how beneficial his off-season conditioning will pay off this season, in which he's expected to play as many as three positions, including shooting guard, small forward and power forward. Dallas wants to give second-year guard Rodrigue Beaubois a larger role this season, but it's uncertain how healthy he'll be at the start because of an injured left foot. If Beaubois were to start, that might mean Carlisle would play Shawn Marion off the bench (though Marion seemed initially opposed to it). Mavs Moneyball believes J.J. Barea could be a solid back-up point guard, but argues his averaging 20 minutes per game would be counterproductive. And it's expected rookie guard Dominique Jones will go through some initial growing pains.

Cuban's arguments aren't exactly wrong. His team does have size and depth. It may even have more depth since some of their reserves may earn some starting minutes as well. Whether that will be enough to beat the Lakers? Maybe a few games, but not enough to win a series.

-- Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina

E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban recently claimed that Dallas has enough size and depth to beat the Lakers. Credit: Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP

Photo: Dallas owner Mark Cuban has been known over the years for making bold claims to the media. Credit: Mark J. Terrill/Associated Press

 
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Mark Medina,
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You are being far too kind.
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Mark Cuban is the patron saint of "Toolbags who are Laker Haters."
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The Mavericks are not a team I'm concerned about. The lamely named "Thunder" are the only team I'm concerned about--and that includes the Septics and the Meat.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K - I pretty much laid the reasons out why Cuban is wrong. I didn't call him names but I don't see how I'm being kind to him.

MM

Cuban is right they have size and depth now. Mavs is the 3rd best threat in the West. But just threat that's all, not equal or superior to Lakers.


West Elites this year


Level 1
Lakers


Level 2
Thunder
Spurs
Mavs


Level 3
Blazers
Rockets
Jazz


Level 4
Nuggets
Orleans
Kings
Clippers


Level 5
Warriors
Wolves

Mark Medina,
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From a Lakeraholic perspective you are being kind to him by not calling him by his official title, which just happens to be "King of the Toolbags" and then throwing rotten tomatoes at his image.
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Mark Cuban is a seriously lame toolbag. I don't think I can make myself any more clear than that.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!


sup fellow lakerholics,

My response to Cuban is: Bring It On...chump!!!

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@LRob,

Parliament/Funkadelic actually originated in Plainsfield, N.J. not Detroit, and AWB(Average White Band) came outta Scotland but, there were some really great artists that came outta da Motor City.

BTW, Marvin Gaye actually was born and started his music career, in my hometown of D.C. in the church and later with the vocal group called 'The Rainbows' which also featured the great 'Billy Stewart'. He later joined up with 'The Marquees' and 'The Moonglows', but, eventually made his name with Motown as a solo artist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament-Funkadelic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_White_Band

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Gaye

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@Wes,

Saw Ip Man over the Labor Day weekend...great flick. Just received the newer version of 'Hero'(earlier version was unavailable), as well as, 'Invincible Armor'. I'll get back to ya lata on those 2.

Still waitin' on 'The 7 Grand Masters', 'Iron Monkey'(both versions), and 'Mask of Death'. Thanks again for the recommendations.

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Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

Sorry, I just had to...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMO8Pyi3UpY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KskaUMuARR8
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

I have to admit Cuban's MOUTH is already in mid-season form. Let's get the NBA season start!!! 3-Peat Lakers!!!!

Giving Cuban any attention over this is far more attention than it deserves.

Wish he would be more like his star player Nowitzki and just disappear.

YEAH RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM TRY THE LAKERS ARE PRETTY MUCH UNSTOPPABLE AT THIS POINT AND KOBE IS ON THE TOP OF HIS GAME AINT NO WAY NO MAVERICK CAN DOMINATE THE GREAT PURPLE AND GOLD LAKERSRLIFE! HATERS CAN GO CHOCK OFF DAT CALIFORNIA PURPLE!!!!!!!!!!

I like Mark Cuban as a Owner, because he is willing to spend to make his team better, but sometimes the things he says are just outrageous... Its good to be confident but its a long season anything can happen no need to jump ahead to say you are going to beat the best team in the League, but oh well we can all laugh it out once the Mavericks are out of the Playoffs.

mark cuban will say anything, won't he?

there are good players and then there are players that are winners. sorry, but tyson, butler, and nowitzki are not winners. they don't have heart, but they are good players that can put up numbers. now, let's compare the lakers that are true winners, but not necessary players that needs to score a ton of points.
blake, barnes, odom, fisher are players that will so ANYTHING to win. simple as that. dallas, along with cuban are nothing but number people that don't know what they need to do to win. enough said, let's get the season started already!!

Poor Cuban,

Is this the same Mark Cuban that said he felt his team could win the championship last year after acquiring Haywood & Butler in Feb?

The same Mark Cuban that thought he had the upper hand on the Spurs in the playoffs last year, and talked about how much he hated them? SA spanked them in 6 games.

Since going to the championship in 2006 the Mavs have been bounced in the first rd of the playoffs 3 of the last 4 seasons. Once when they were a #1 seed and last year as a #2 seed. Ouch.

Yes, Dallas has good depth, but like MM pointed out they're not nearly as skilled as the Lakers. If I was Cuban I'd be worried about JKidd, Marion and Jason Terry. Each one of them looked "old" in the playoffs last year.

I have a feeling Dallas season will end the same way it did in 2010...with Cuban apologizing to his fans for another disappointing playoff performance.


Cybercomix,

you asked: What do you think hobbitmage? Should they trade him? That is the only option, isn't it?

my response: That would all depend on what they could get for him and
what they need.

When we had Smush Parker as our starting pg, I trade Bynum for Jason Kidd
every time. Every. Single. Time.

Do I trade Bynum for Bosh? Maybe. They bring different things. I have
seen nothing to make me think that the Lakers couldn't win with a big man
tandem of Bosh & Gasol. Is it different than the tandem of Gasol & Bynum?
Sure. That doesn't mean that it wouldn't work.

If in the future, Bynum plays like he played last December than the Lakers
made a mistake in not trading. If Bynum averages 15/10 than it's a push.l
If Bynum averages 20/10 then it was a good decision not to trade him.

I have to trust in Mitch Kupchak. He's made some great decisions.

Time will tell.

You'll notice that I'm not breaking myself not to trade him. That's because
contrary to popular opinion I've never wanted to trade him for peanuts.
There have always been *specific* reasons. I'm ok with him being on the
team.

I really hope he stays healthy. I really hope he continues to improve on
defense.

As always, the primary objective is to win a championship.

Difference between a winner and a loser...Buss (10) and Cuban (0)

To paraphrase a line from my all time favorite movie:


Stop playing with yourself, Markie. You ain't gon do ***t!


Shoutout to LRob...who undoubtedly knows what movie this line is from!

The problem with Dallas isn't size or depth or even talent. They just don't know how to get it done at the elite level of the finals. They've been around 30 years and haven't won a championship yet. And, they're not overdue.

My God...

I stumbled across the old Styx collection and a bottle of wine. The imperfect storm.

I remember clearly my older brother driving me to madness by playing this song over and over in those last months that we shared the same room together in the condo Dad got after mom hit the road. We grew old, apart, and never lived together again but for the occasional family timeshare where songs like this live on in glorious infamy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFD7qYx3VI

And of course, from the same summer, though a different casset bought with money earned from a thousand neighborhood lawns mowed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YET51K7z5A&p=1546BEB237DACC0F&playnext=1&index=83

Wes

Who can forget this beauty? This was the first song that Tommy Shaw busted out when he was opening for Billy Squire at the Forum in 1985. Rock never dies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNcbdHcz1Mg&feature=related

Wes

@LRob,

Parliament/Funkadelic actually originated in Plainsfield, N.J. not Detroit, and AWB(Average White Band) came outta Scotland but, there were some really great artists that came outta da Motor City.
Posted by: G in DC(aka GDUB) | September 16, 2010 at 07:40 PM
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GDub,

Thanks for the correction on the P-Funk crew. They recorded out of Detroit so long I guess I claimed them...lol. A few of the members that played with George later on are from Detroit...but you're right not the original members.

I said Marvin was from DC...and didn't try to take credit for him when talking to LakerTom.

I got much love for DC artist too. Rich history in Jazz & R/B. Do you remember Special Delivery from back in the day. And of course, back in my college days my east coast friends were alway hyping the Go Go sound with Chuck Brown and Trouble Funk.

Shoutout to LRob...who undoubtedly knows what movie this line is from!

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | September 16, 2010 at 08:46 PM
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What's up Utzworld. Why you stumping me tonight? I can't call it.

I stumbled across the old Styx collection and a bottle of wine. The imperfect storm.
Posted by: wes | September 16, 2010 at 08:58 PM
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Wes,

Styx was good, but I was more of a Foreigner guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfO7ZVdzfZ4&feature=related

Difference between a winner and a loser...Buss (10) and Cuban (0)

Posted by: LakerPeace | September 16, 2010 at 08:44 PM
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(Excuse me, Mamba24. this is in your honor)
OUTFREAKIN STANDING!!!!!!!!!!

hobbitmage: I can see your point in trading Bynum for another very good/great center, and not for peanuts. It is a fact that Bynum, fluke instances or not, has suffered 3 major injuries while with the Lakers, to his knees. It's not a hand injury, a foot injury and an elbow, it's to the knees/knee ligaments.

Therefore, I can definitely see your point of trading him for a Bosh, a Howard, a Stoudamire - someone in the top group of centers. That makes sense, whereas LAKER TRUTH wanted to trade him for a non-injured center and a speedy PG. Well, Darko Milicic is an uninjured center. Kwame Brown is too. There are a lot of uninjured scrubs around the league, some of them overpaid enough to make it work when coupled with a speedy PG, but that is simply crazy.

I personally believe that Bynum is a year or two from being a dominant force in the middle, and the premiere center in the league, so I wouldn't trade him. However, if the Lakers did get one of that top core group of centers, I could at least find that a level-headed idea. Again, I wouldn't make the trade, but I could see that as being within the realm of plausibility, something remotely acceptable as far as trades would go.

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MM: "It's not a bad idea but here's why it's not going to be feasible. As per team policy with any sports league, trainers and any medical people don't talk to the media. It's not just for competitive purposes. Under HIPA laws, they can only say so much about a player beyond the general stuff they tell the team spokespeople and coaching staff on what to say. Getting an outside doctor per se is dicey because even though they know medical terms and injuries, it's hard to have a definitive take without them being your patient."
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My dad was a doctor, and I hear what you are saying. Unless they had the medical charts, it's hard to speak about the particulars. Thanks for the response and considering the idea.

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Mark Cuban is always on the cusp of winning a title, so he's either eternally optimistic, lying to himself, or blind to the talent the Mavs possess vs other good teams. Let me repost what I said in the last blog entry:

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Size? Tyson Chandler, Brendan Haywood, the ancient Tim Thomas & 2 centers out of France. Oh, and of course, Dirk. They got size, all right. Might be fine against the rest of the league, but this collection supposed to be a match to Bynum/Gasol/Odom? Haaa!

Depth? They have a decent bench, I've always loved Jet Terry, and Barea is an underrated PG. I guess Haywood comes off the bench now, so that is a pretty decent backup center. Outside of that? Roddy B got outplayed in the summer league. DeShawn Stevenson? He roughly has more incidents that PPGs. Tim Thomas, some rooks and euro's? Well, Cuban is certainly in mid-season form, and definitely wearing those green and blue shades...

GO LAKERS!!!!!

While going to NBA.com to check out the Mavs roster, I came across a pic of new Hornets coach, Monty Williams.

Then it hit me
DO YOU KNOW WHO THIS CHUMP IS??

Back in 98, we were playing the Spurs and skirmish broke out on the court. That's when a veteran guard Monty Williams tried to "Mike Tyson" Kobe Bryant. I say "Mike Tyson" because that was shortly after the infamous Holyfield fight. Fox Sports West showed a close up shot of Monty going in for a chomp on Kobe's ear. Fortunately Kobe moved out of the way in time.

This one goes out to Mark Cuban...courtesy of Bob Seger, from the real Big D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TjWOVUZeJo

FEARless

Your rebuttal of my take of "take it to the bank" Bynum will get injured again, though structurally excellent your argument is weak as are most other closed eyed backers.

Weak Argument #1.
Should have traded Lamar because he caused 2 injuries to Bynum.
Response: Guess you needed a filler for your 500 word response.

Weak Argument #2.
The evidence suggests that players who have structural problems with their bodies will be injury prone in a career threatening way. The evidence also suggests that every other player will also experience a number of injuries, frustratingly more than they want, and have to spend the entire rest of their careers managing those injuries, unless your name is AC Green or Derick Fisher.
Response: You actually make a positive point in my favor. As Hobbitimage has noted several times his wide hips and knock knees are a recipe for disaster which increases the probability his career will be shortlived. Your second sentence is filler yet again. Of course every other player will have injuries, but how many are physically inclined for injuries.

Weak argument #3.
The evidence also clearly suggests that Bynum is simply too young to make any such assessment just yet because men over 6'10" are notoriously slow to mature physically. It is only about now that we know (at least the medical staff knows) what kind of body Bynum will play with the rest of his career. Truthfully, he has probably *just* stopped growing within the last few months to a year.
Response: Really weak FEARless. Bynum still has those wide hips and knock knees, you don't grow out of those.

Weak argument #4.
Trying to compare Pau and Kobe's injury to Drew's.
Response: I only wish that Drew's injuries were just back or hamstring related as Pau's were. With AB we are talking knees and achilles heel. Mentioning Kobe about injuries was worthless also, how many more years has he played?

So the next time you get on your high-horse and want to ridicule a post of mine, bring something other than a well structured piece of writing with no substance. Perhaps something a little more challenging? Something thought provoking at the very least.

Respectfully,

LRob: I am stunned. All day long you've been diatribing about legendary Soul Music artists and you can't spot a line from the legendary film "Shaft"? Color me amazed!

(Excuse me, Mamba24. this is in your honor)
OUTFREAKIN STANDING!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Magic Phil | September 16, 2010 at 09:33 PM


@Magic Phil
Then, I think MAMBA24 would say something like this...
ROTFLMAO!!! STOP THIS MAGIC PHIL!!! STOP THIS I SAY!!!!!

Wow, two good threads worth of conversation. I have to go to bed early tonight and be up before the break of dawn to be gone all day tomorrow, and for the first time in a while I'm thinking 'but I want to get in on this conversation!'

any way. just a couple of things from the first twenty or thirty posts from the previous thread, I'm working my way in.

FCM, I gotta say the controversy topic seems to be working pretty well. Some really good writing, some disagreement very politely and civilly handled. I think adding a layer of meta discussion has really gotten results. Of course, I still like to think that THE LOVE had a little to do with it.

LAKERTRUTH- Fewer Luke Lovers? Say it ain’t so. I thought it was the Luke haters that sort of faded away after the 2009 title. Nowadays we get people arguing about his contract, but I don’t think anybody would be unhappy to see Luke get healthy so we won’t be hanging on a judge and a jury to tell us when our backup SF will play.

I also think that conventional wisdom on the Luke front has always been that when healthy he is a pretty solid and reasonably affordable 9 or 10 option, who can keep the offense working with the bench. And when he isn’t healthy, nobody wants him to play.

Of course, if everybody wants to take issue with those statements, well, there we go, FCM will figure out why Luke is still controversial.

“I myself can't understand why...I mean how come no one wants to discuss who is hotter...
Jeannie Buss or Sarah Palin...
Vanessa Bryant or Eva Longoria...
Louis Amundson or Jon K...
Let's get back to the important questions...;-)
Posted by: LEWSTRS | September 16, 2010 at 01:00 PM”

Made me laugh, anyway, even though I have to be honest and say I think that’s like maybe 1/6 at best, because I wouldn’t say no to Jeannie, even if those dogs would have unfortunate accidents pretty early in the relationship. I don't want to mess with Kobe's woman (don't really care if I rain on Phil's parade, jeez, give her a ring already, Phil, it's not like you have a shortage. I keep getting Eva and Evan Longoria confused, so I don't want to take any chances there. Sarah Palin? She doesn't use birth control, apparently, and I don't want to subject my kids to any of that. Jon K? Not my type. But come to think of it, if Louis Amundson was part owner of the Lakers who knows how far I would go.

LRob: I am stunned. All day long you've been diatribing about legendary Soul Music artists and you can't spot a line from the legendary film "Shaft"? Color me amazed!

Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | September 16, 2010 at 09:49 PM
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Utzworld - Don't you know I'm a complicated man and nobody understands me but my woman.... Okay I know the song but true confession....I didn't see Shaft.

I saw Superfly, The Mack, Cooley High, Car Wash, The Learning Tree, Cotton Comes to Harlem, Lady Sings the Blues (my favorite of that group), Uptown Saturday Night, Sparkle amd others, but not Shaft.

Hey I'm a music man, not a movie guy...unless its where music meets movie! Anyway since you said that is a legendary I will check it out and give you my review. Thanks for calling me out....lol.

phred - thanks for the LOVE. secondly, would love to get your Laker profile soon!
When you mean controversial topics, which threads did you mean? I think it's a gradual process, I'm trying to find more angles/stories that will spark this kind of discussion. Feel free to provide any feedback

MM

Size? Tyson Chandler, Brendan Haywood, the ancient Tim Thomas & 2 centers out of France. Oh, and of course, Dirk. They got size, all right. Might be fine against the rest of the league, but this collection supposed to be a match to Bynum/Gasol/Odom? Haaa!

Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 16, 2010 at 09:36 PM
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CyberCosmiX,

I'm enjoying the dialogue with you and Hobbit. Thoughtful, insightful and civil.

FYI...Tim Thomas isn't playing this year. He's taking the year off to tend to his sick wife. It stuck out to me when I read it because a few days earlier I said the Thunder should pick up a player I don't like...say a Tim Thomas or a Raja Bell...so it would be easier to dislike the team. I felt bad when I read about his wife because I had just talked about him. Anyway, I certainly don't wish ill on him or his family and hope she has a speedy recovery.


http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7019910833

Mavs vs Lakers
Mano y Mano!


Centers


Tyson Chandler - Andrew Bynum (L)
Brendan Haywood - Theo Ratliff (M)
Alexis Ajinca - None
Ian Mahinmi - None


Forwards


Dirk Nowitzki - Pau Gasol (E)
Shawn Marion - Lamar Odom (E)
Tim Thomas - Derrick Caracter (E)
Caron Butler - Ron Artest (E)
Deshawn Stevenson - Matt Barnes (E)
Dominique Jones - Devin Ebanks (M)
None - Luke Walton (E)


Guards


Jason Kidd - Kobe Braynt (L)
Jason Terry - Shannon Brown (M)
JJ Barea - Derek Fisher (E)
Rodrique Beubouis - Steve Blake (M)
None - Sasha Vujacic


Carlisle - Jackson (L)
Cuban - Buss (L)
Dallas fans - Laker fans (L)

*chuckle... snicker* Meh... heh..... heh.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Wow... great one from Cuban. Seriously? He's really trying to market his team as a winner when anyone with an eye for talent know damn well they can't beat the Lakers in a 7 game series. They have size, yes... but as you said Mike, they don't have the skill. Pau is the best big man in the game on both ends of the floor, Kobe is still the best player in the game and Dallas has no answer for him, the Lakers have championship experience and pedigree and I'm sorry, but Kidd isn't in his prime anymore. Someone should really really bring Cuban back to reality.

2 teams in the West I fear, the Thunder and the Blazers, especially if Oden is healthy and that team can stay healthy. The Blazers give us all kinds of problems, the Mavs don't.

LakerPeace -

I was trying to be cute and think of something to post about the difference between Buss and Cuban...then you posted...

Difference between a winner and a loser...Buss (10) and Cuban (0)

LMAO...nothing left to say...

dan the man -

Great stuff...I wonder how Kobe feels about Monty...Hope Kobe gives him some payback...

Aloha

I find it very interesting that I am always hearing these milestones for Andrew. The most common one is always 20 ppg 10 boards. Then like magic he's now a great center. Yet I never hear anyone say Pau needs to score 20 a game to be a great power forward. Pau has averaged 18 a game for the Lakers since he has been here. He nearly universally regarded as one of the best big men in the game and an all star but no one ever says but he doesn't average 20. Did a little math and her is Pau's stat line playing the same 30 minutes a game, that Andrew played last year.

Pau (30 min) 14.9 ppg 9.23 boards 1.3 blocks

Andrew 15.0 ppg 8.3 boards 1.5 blocks

Pretty similar no? I also believe that Andrew is now a better defender then Pau and most of the centers in the league. He only gets 10.6 shots a game and shoots 57% so he does his job. The ONLY way he will ever average 20 a game is if he gets more shots. Thats why I am completely fine with his scoring 15. Perhaps another couple of boards maybe but as the third option on this team he is just fine. With Blake and Kobe getting more rest this year Andrew may be able to get a couple more shots a game but I would be completely surprised if he averaged 20. Look for Bosh to score in the 17 to 18 point range this year while playing 7 or 8 minutes more a game then Drew.

MH

HE SAYS THIS EVERY YEAR!!!

Last year he said ron artest would be our kryptonite....wrong!!!

shut up and buy the Dodgers already you tool !

Mavs vs Lakers! Starters and Bench
Mano y Mano!


Starters

Chandler - Bynum (L)
Nowitzki - Gasol (E)
Butler - Artest (E)
Kidd - Bryant (L)
Beubouis - Blake (M)


Bench


Haywood - Ratliff (M)
Marion - Odom (E)
Stevenson - Barnes (E)
Terry - Brown (M)
Barea - Fisher (E)


The Lakers would beat the Mav's in a series. They could beat them playing big, putting LO at the 1, or playing small, put LO at the 5 and surround him with Barnes, KB, Shannon and Blake or Fish. Mark Cuban, not only does he need to up his game in hair style (SuperCuts), and fashion (Banana Republic), he needs to shave and get a gym membership.

Try making it to the Western Conference Finals first pal. Then we will talk. Until then, shut your trap, keep your head down, and win games. Sincerely, the man and fan you wish you were. Go LAKERS!

Why would Mark Cuban say that? Is he that bored? or did he give David Stern a big fat check for the trophy?

Most Laker fans respect the the Spurs and the Mavs; I know I do. But when the owner yaps his mouth he puts a target on his team. I have always believed, and even Phil Jackson has said that the Mavs is a scary team to face in the Playoffs. That was out of respect. Throw that out, now they become one of the enemies.

michael h,

you wrote: Pretty similar no? I also believe that Andrew is now a better defender then Pau and most of the centers in the league. He only gets 10.6 shots a game and shoots 57% so he does his job. The ONLY way he will ever average 20 a game is if he gets more shots. Thats why I am completely fine with his scoring 15. Perhaps another couple of boards maybe but as the third option on this team he is just fine. With Blake and Kobe getting more rest this year Andrew may be able to get a couple more shots a game but I would be completely surprised if he averaged 20. Look for Bosh to score in the 17 to 18 point range this year while playing 7 or 8 minutes more a game then Drew.

my response: I don't believe that Andrew is a better center than Pau. I had
asked about great C/PF combos a couple of months ago. You have to go
back to the Rockets w/ Hakeem & Sampson.

I'll be looking to see what everyone in Miami scores. To be honest, I'm ok
w/ Bynum scoring what he scores. I'd just prefer to hear less propaganda.

What Cuban said was the Mavs have the size and depth to beat the Lakers. Let's consider:

1. Their best five are Chandler, Nowitzki, Marion, Butler and Kidd. Matching up with our starting five of Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Bryant and Fisher, I call this a draw. Gasol is mobile enough to neutralize Dirk, while Marion would most likely get the defensive assignment on Kobe.

2. Mavs reserves would be Haywood, Stevenson, Beaubois, and Barea (NOTE: Tim Thomas might not play because of his wife's illness, while Dominique Jones is untested). Laker reserves are Ratliff, Odom, Barnes, Brown and Blake. Needless to state, Lakers have the advantage in size and skill here.

3. Laker first unit are championship-tested; meaning, they know how to get the job done. On the other side, Chandler looks disinterested at times and Kidd can be expected to be slowed down by age.

4. Phil Jackson is a better bench tactician than Rick Carlisle.

My take? Mavs DO have the size and depth, but NOT enough to beat the Lakers. Dream on, Mark Cuban.

GO LAKERS!!

Re Mark Cuban...AKA..Man who collects figurines and keeps them in their box and plays world of war craft against teenagers....

This guy makes trades every season and spends tones of cash and still cant win..

Might have the balls to spend cash....But its what you spend your cash on that counts....

Cuban could keep a hot air balloon flying across countries for days with all the hot air that comes out of his mouth...

Thats the difference between Buss and a wanna be Buss...


Hi All Artest fans,

If you are in the Southern Cal area, Im offering a seat at a VIP section next to Ron Ron on Saturday in Fullerton. He will be performing and hosting at Cantina Lounge. We will have a table right next to Ron. If you want to go, give me a shout out...A die hard blogger on here will have higher priority for this seat. If you are a single lady, even better.. haha

Thanks.

Hi All Artest fans,

If you are in the Southern Cal area, Im offering a seat at a VIP section next to Ron Ron on Saturday in Fullerton. He will be performing and hosting at Cantina Lounge. We will have a table right next to Ron. If you want to go, give me a shout out...A die hard blogger on here will have higher priority for this seat. If you are a single lady, even better.. haha Thanks. Posted by: zen | September 17, 2010 at 02:06 AM

They say that cat Zen is a bad mother...shut your mouth, but I'm just talking bout Zen, then we can dig it!

Most Laker fans respect the the Spurs and the Mavs; I know I do. But when the owner yaps his mouth he puts a target on his team. I have always believed, and even Phil Jackson has said that the Mavs is a scary team to face in the Playoffs. That was out of respect. Throw that out, now they become one of the enemies. Posted by: Joe_Corad | September 17, 2010 at 01:06 AM

Nice!! The last 2 lines especially Joe!! Carry On!

(Excuse me, Mamba24. this is in your honor)
OUTFREAKIN STANDING!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Magic Phil | September 16, 2010 at 09:33 PM

And I am sure he would be honored sir! Carry On!

Good Morning Laker Nation,

Here's a little sunshine to get you rolling today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHTPdbpogRE

Good Morning LRob,

Here's a little sunshine rolling right back at you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lu81z2E6pE

What is Cuban supposed to say?

The reporters KNOW who the beast of the league is and obviously wanted to know if Cuban thought they had a fighting chance. Any owner that spends the way Cuban spends SHOULD speak w/ confidence about contending for a championship. I don't have an issue w/ his comments. He's not the one playing the games. With all of his $$ he's still watching from the sidelines like me. The players play and the Lakers have more talent, championship moxy and they're just plain better. Period.

Plus wasn't this the same guy who predicted Artest would torpedo the Lakers repeat chances?

Not overlooking Dallas but like MM said, they can't beat the Lakers in a 7 game series regardless of what Cuban believes.

Cuban should worry about other Texas teams before stepping up to the champs! Spurs still have their number and Rockets have Yao back with Kevin Martin and a pretty good squad. Mavs were supposed to challenge Lakers last year and got smacked by Spurs in 1st round! Baby steps Cuban, baby steps.

Now if they only had a heart, a brain and some courage.

Speaking of owners, you have to give Cuban the credit for investing on Dallas Mav's and put his money where his mouth is. Others just took advantage of the goodwill and sold the enterprise and watch institution fall on the wayside. They only care about their own stock, locked their fortune in the Wall Street or in their bank accounts, one of them are the Chandlers family of Los Angeles Times. They have been blessed to own this paper for more than a hundred years won all kinds of journalism awards. The Los Angelinos reciprocated with the excellence, patronized this paper in good times and in bad and when the price became attractive enough, the Chandlers to Tribune and Zell acquired all of these bad stocks. The Los Angeles paper became a hostage to the Chicago paper and of these corporate raiders.

Another example are the O'Malleys of the Dodgers, Peter said yesterday to warring couple, the McCourts to sell the paper. Indeed, that is a timely advice but where are the O'Malley when the baseball team needed them. Gone after selling this team to the Murdoch. Murdoch in turn sold it to the Boston realtors, McCourts, now they're asking them to sell it to local owners.

I don't have to dig the grave of Georgia Frontierre owners of Rams sending the team to St. Louis or the disabled Al Davis who previously juggled LA and Oakland while fleecing on the side the small City of Irwindale. Frankly, the Southland survived without and NFL team but I wonder whether the networks would survive without the Southland viewers.

Having said that, I have to bow and execute a full salute to the Buss family. During the difficult times when the Lakers were on drought, Pat Riley went to Knicks, then Florida, Jerry West left for Memphis, ONeal trashed the City and the team on his way to the Heat then several teams, the Buss family remained calm and stuck with this team and to the City of LA. They did not abandon their fans in good times and in bad when Kobe was ranting and wanting to be traded. Well, they are rewarded for their loyalty by tens of million strong fans linked by freeways.

Therefore, going back to Mark Cuban, we may hate him for being a homer to the Dallas team but give him credit being a devout owner who invests on his team. If we in this blog kept on hating anybody who challenges the Lakers, then there is no more happiness in competing and achieving. Remember being on the top, we are always the target therefore the team should keep on improving.

4 Mavs + Nowitsky against 4 Lakers + Kobe is not an even match.

5 Mavs + Carlisle is not a match for 5 Lakers + PJackson.

Texas + Cuban vs California + Buss? forgetaboutit.

My previous post needs a lot of editing, sorry I'm just half awake.

4 Mavs + Nowitsky against 4 Lakers + Kobe is not an even match.

5 Mavs + Carlisle is not a match for 5 Lakers + PJackson.

Texas + Cuban vs California + Buss? forgetaboutit.

Posted by: p ang | September 17, 2010 at 07:10 AM


(As Mamba24 would say...OUTFREAKIN STANDING!!!!!!!!!! )

G in DC...wow!

You just listed some amazing films. Remember this --Mask of Death and Invinsible Armor are old skool kung fu and so are a different beast from modern KF films. Mask of Death is a bit light on plot towards the end, but the iconography is so cool, I still watch it with wonder. Give me the white-haired old masters, give them all crazy weapons and and make them battle around jagged rocky mountain peaks all to an electric funk soundtrack and you have what makes those films so good.

Iron Monkey is maybe my favorite kung fu film of all time...though Invincible Armor is right there. You'll want to watch and rewatch that tragic nut-crushing scene at the end of Invincible Armor.

Hey, how about epic, tragic spaghetti westerns? Man, I just got "Keoma" and I LOVE it. I tried to buy the very, very bloody and tragic "The Great Silence" but they want $70 used, $150 new. Have you seen that? Its about a deaf gunfighter who becomes this legendary hero only to have himself and the woman he's protecting get blown away at the end by Klaus Kinski.

So sad...

Wes


I tried to buy the very, very bloody and tragic "The Great Silence" but they want $70 used, $150 new. Posted by: wes | September 17, 2010 at 07:28 AM


http://tinyurl.com/2wroesv


Here's a little sunshine rolling right back at you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lu81z2E6pE

Posted by: 8ON8 | September 17, 2010 at 06:40 AM
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lol...8ON8...Now that's the real Sunshine. I miss those horns from the 70's.


lol...8ON8...Now that's the real Sunshine. I miss those horns from the 70's.
Posted by: LRob | September 17, 2010 at 07:46 AM

Very underated and stigmatized band for all the happiness they brought to folks LRob. You do know your music sir.

Pop said Duncan is slim/fit and ready to go. That's great. Duncan ready. Cuban's flapping. Monte Ellis making amends with Curry. Everybody is gearing up for the champs. I like!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5581329

Cuban ain't no T-Wolf... He will not admit facts. bynum: you better stay healthy and l.o.: you better bring whatever you have left in the tank this season or you'll be shipped w/Sasha before the trade deadline. we've got some hungry young players in the league and they'll be gunnin' for L.A. we've got multiple targets on our backs: phil's going away party with a 4th 3-peat, Kobe's 6th ring and just defending their championship. if l.o. can't get up for that... We know for sure that there's one person on that team who gets it and his leadership - forget about D-Fish - will be put to the test. Mitch & Buss will have some time to evaluate the team before the trade deadline and if necessary, they'll make the right move. GO LAKERS & IN BUSS WE TRUST!!

Okay - you had to get me going this morning!

Blog shoutout to Mark Cuban: we know you are obsessed with all things Lakers and that you read our blog every day because its far better and way more popular than your own. So, this is your day - cherish it, cause it won't last - just like your Mavs in the playoffs.

It seems Cuban hasn't gotten enough attention this Summer after he was silenced for talking about the free agent frenzy. And I think he is just really pissed off that only one of the Lakers/Mavs match-ups is nationally televised, so he is trying to push for the first game to be a BSPN game with a big build-up. I suspect he will ramp up the rhetoric around Christmas.

I think the Mavs will hold down a 4 or 5 spot this year. I think they need to win their division to give them a mindset that they can get out of first round. If they are lower than 5, they won't make it out of first round because they aren't mentally strong enough.

You see Mr. Cuban, your boy Nowinzky isn't a good #1. He is a good #2 but you haven't figured that out yet. Keep riding your horse. Your Mavs may have depth, but you don't have the mental toughness to withstand the Laker juggernaut!

Cheers - PLG

You see Mr. Cuban, your boy Nowinzky isn't a good #1. He is a good #2 but you haven't figured that out yet. Keep riding your horse. Your Mavs may have depth, but you don't have the mental toughness to withstand the Laker juggernaut!
Cheers - PLG Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | September 17, 2010 at 08:18 AM

Give it to her right now! RCOTD!

Mark Cuban is just an embarrassment to himself. He keeps making these grand proclamations about his team, and what do they do? They keep losing. Even with the best record in the league and playing in the Finals they choked.

I just can't take him seriously.

Good Morning Blog Fam!!

Where the heck is Mamba with his awesome roll calls? I must have missed something... Please tell me he's not gone forever!

GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!

80n8...

My god...my kingdom for $33.22.

Wes

wes -

Watched Shaolin Soccer last night...I really liked it...please keep the recommendations coming...

Where the heck is Mamba with his awesome roll calls? I must have missed something... Please tell me he's not gone forever! GO LAKERS!!!!!!!! Posted by: longtimelakerlover | September 17, 2010 at 08:28 AM

Sept 25th the start of training camp he'll be back. At least that what Justanothermambafan said. Awesome? Really? You're so nice! Keep talking like that and he might return earlier. Lol!

My god...my kingdom for $33.22.
Posted by: wes | September 17, 2010 at 08:31 AM

Even better deal here Wes: http://tinyurl.com/36vgr83

That's like saying well my toyotas have 4 wheels and a gear shift and your ferrari has 4 wheels and a gear shift.

Size WITH Skill matters, and they don't have enough to out skill us.

and as for depth. lakers are deeper this year more than the last two.

Oh..and Silence form "The Great Silence" is mute not deaf. Which is also funny because if Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress" the two bumbling fools who would later be remade into R2D2 and C3PO know that the princess is mute, but assume thet mute means deaf and acordingly give away all their secret plans to the princess.

The great Silence, final scene, part 1. Don't watch if you haven't seen it, even though the very end isn't in this clip.

Don't go Silence! You're injured!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAIAcAX8FAQ&feature=related

Wes

LakersFanInBoston - Is that you my brother...Great to see you aboard...WELCOME...

Have you cofm hooked up yet over there in Chowderville...

"In the morning I get up...and I try to be alive...but I can't..."

Where is Mamba24...Miss you bro...and I can't wake up in the morns till I see your Roll Call...

LRob - what song and what artist did that line come from...

Another thing about spaghetti westerns is that they had 100% the best faces in the business. I can not think of another genra of film in existence since the silent days where a person's face means more to a scene than in all those classic SW. It is not uncommon to have a scene 10 min long with no dialogue at all, like this opening for "Once upon a time in the West"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOeg4d3Z8JU

Wes

wes - WOW...I just added Once Upon A Time In The West, to my library...
and The Boys From Brazil and The Day of The Jackal and The Red Badge of Courage...

Did Cuban say "we have debt...we have more debt than the Lakers"

I think so...for he definitely didn't mean 'depth'...

8ON8 is mamba24, who else comments on every single post, think!?

Lew...

Shaolin Soccer was so good. Stephen Chow's next film was even better, "Kung Fu Hustle." Both films are cool because they do the Cantonese thing where they touch on every single genra available to man. His stories are action comedy kung fu sci fi romance special-effect man vs man gangster films.

Lew, did you see the American version or the Chinese version? Most DVDs have a choice. The American version really made me laugh because it's totally dummed up. When you watch the other version it explains so much that the other leaves out, like why the two are dressed as monks singing in the bar.

Also, Stephen Chow hires a bunch of old kung fu legends for his films, which is so cool to me.

Some other great ones are "Drunken Master" (The only old skool kung fu comedy I really like). "The Oned Armed Swordsman" and "The 36th chamber of Shaolin" are the two Shaw Bros films that relly, really cemented the genra as a world-wide phenomena, so those are must haves.

"Enter the Dragon" has the best time-capsule cinematrography outside of "Taxi Driver." The scenes of Hong Kong in 1973 are priceless. "The Buddhist Fist" is early Woo Ping (Matrix/Kill Bill) and one of the top 10 old skool kf films ever.

Just to name a few.

Wes

Did Cuban say "They have debt...We have more debt than the Lakers"

Lewstrs Brutha! I can see this working...
Can you believe it me and Cofm haven't hooked up...because he basically lives 2 1/2 hours away from me in West Mass. I was hoping he would be closer to Boston near me. but, not so much...so Not an afterwork drive.

But, I'm hoping we do get to meet up. We've had a title and hall of fame induction pass us by that we should be celebrating. Funds are so tight right now, it sucks.

I think Cuban sayd they have more "Dips"....I know he's not saying depth.
Kobe has more depth than his entire starting 5! ha ha

Lewstrs Brutha! I can see this working...
Can you believe it me and Cofm haven't hooked up...because he basically lives 2 1/2 hours away from me in West Mass. I was hoping he would be closer to Boston near me. but, not so much...so Not an afterwork drive.

But, I'm hoping we do get to meet up. We've had a title and hall of fame induction pass us by that we should be celebrating. Funds are so tight right now, it sucks.

I think Cuban sayd they have more "Dips"....I know he's not saying depth.
Kobe has more depth than his entire starting 5! ha ha

well, we painting the office today...so...back 2 it...
i like this, i could see posting here...

Mavs will always be a third tier team as long as their best player is a 7 foot jump shooter. No matter how much depth you have, that formula will ultimatelly fail in the playoffs. I would welcome a western conference finals against them, because I know the Lakers would win. The two most dangerous teams behind the Lakers are the Thunder and a healthy Portland crew. Houston could possibly sneak up on some teams as well.

some teams are just destined not to win all....let me rephrase that....some teams like dallas, denver, orlando...these teams do have tremendous talent + one or two superstars but always come up short in big games. Mark Cuban should know, Dalls is lucky to be facing other teams than lakers in playoffs because it will be a sweep if it's la vs dal. And first, dallas neeeds to figure out how to contain san antonio before challenging lakers.

Lewstrs... I'm so with you on missing Mamba24. Miss his bandwagons and his positive attitude!!Hope he does come back soon!!!!

I will say this about Cuban, I am impressed he remained sane (more or less or at least himself) after the refs did in fact take his championship away.

I did not have a big rooting interest one way or the other but there were entire quarters of the Dallas/Miami series where Wade was gauranteed either a basket, a foul, or a basket and a foul. It reminded me of the Disney movie Gus the kicking mule. Hey if you are going to score at least 3 points every time, you are going to win all your games even if the other guy scores 7 once in awhile.

Anyhow I still smart for the guy. Same for the Seahawks when they played Pittsburg. HATE it when the refs influence games. And oh yeah Maloof brothers...refs were nothing but the best that game, nothing but the best :-)

Sorry, I just had to...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMO8Pyi3UpY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KskaUMuARR8
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | September 16, 2010 at 07:42 PM

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Yup you had too. LOL

Wow,
Claudia Cardinale. Now shes a hot blast from the past.

I don't remember the year but Jerry Buss said he felt he had a team good enough to play for ship. Many people discounted him thinking the Lakers were in disarray and rebuilding. Then Lakers won and Jerry said I told you so.

Now in Jerry I trust and what he says I have faith. Can't say the same about Cuban.

LRob,
Been focusing on Latin music and add Gipsey Kings but I had a lot of music I was into.

Gipsey Kings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNgSeJzLJFc

My ex wife worked for Warner Bros Records and she would get me into Concerts and back stage passes where bands and stars would party. I met Pat Riley at one concert.
I miss those days of free music and access to musicians and stars. But that was only mostly only thing I miss about that marriage. LOL

Saw Hiroshima, Doobie Bros, Foriener among others perform.

I will give it to cuban that he DID make the Mavericks better. They were in a world of hurt when he got there. and he did make the moves to give them 6 50 win seasons...credit where it's due...

But, still not good enought to beat the lakes shoooow!

I don't know what we'd all expect Mark Cuban to do.

The Mavericks, who've been deep, capable and talented for the better part of 10 years, have only played for a title once. It is a team that seems to go through the motions, and often plays with little emotion or purpose.

Cuban is trying to get them going, or force them to get going.

They're no match for LA, and that's pretty clear, but I don't blame Cubes for going in on the Lakers.

Mark Cuban is full of hot air. Always has been, always will be.

When I had the MISERABLE experience of living in Dallas, all I ever heard from Cuban, and those unfortunate enough to be Mavericks fans, is how great they were, how the Lakers were going down to them--THIS SEASON. It was always, well THIS YEAR we'll beat the Lakers!

Right, right. Let's do a quick tally of championship banners:

Lakers -- 16
Mavs -- zip. zero. zilch.

By the way, Cuban and company are so pathetic that they actually hang DIVISION banners!! Can you imagine hanging division, or even conference, banners at Staples? What a laugh.

PS Had it not been for DirecTV and NBA League Pass, which enabled me to see every Lakers game each season, I would have lost my mind. THANK GOODNESS I'm back home now!


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