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This is the tenth post in a weekly series that helps you get to know members of the L.A. Times Lakers blog community. Feel free to send submissions to [email protected]

Screen name: puddle

Real name: Phil

Age: 26

Gender: M

Hometown: Woodland Hills

Story behind your screen name: My initials are PDL, which if spoken as a word sounds like “puddle”. I’ve very jealous of my brother, whose initials GSL sound like “Gasol”, or even my dad, whose initials WFL sound like “waffle”. Mmmm, waffles.

How I became a Lakers fan: I became a basketball fan when I started playing in 3rd grade (1993). I became an NBA fan when I watched Dream Team II (yeah, I missed out on the REAL Dream Team), a team that had Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson – two Charlotte Hornets players. I loved those guys so much I even wanted a hi-top fade like ‘Zo had, despite the fact that my hair is blond and wavy. So even though I liked the Lakers, I became a huge Hornets fan. In 1995, however, Charlotte traded Alonzo to Miami and I cried. That day I vowed to never root for the Hornets again (I eventually tore down my Charlotte Hornets wallpaper in my room) and began to root SOLELY for my hometown Lakers. The Hornets, to me, were kind of like the first serious girlfriend you have – you know, the one you loved but who broke your heart but ultimately made you a wiser better man. The Lakers are like the soul-mate.

Favorite Lakers memory of all time and of the 2009-2010 season: Favorite Lakers memory of all time is when Kobe lobbed that alley-oop to Shaq to cap the Lakers Game 7 comeback vs. the Blazers in 2000. I always pace around during Lakers games – especially in the playoffs – and in this game, I was a complete madman. If I remember right, the Lakers were down 16 at the end of the 3rd quarter, when Brian Shaw banked in a 3. For some reason, I just knew they were going to come back. When Kobe connected with Shaq on that alley-oop, I ran around outside screaming and jumping around like a crazy person. I’ve never experienced such an emotional high from any other Laker moment. (Sidenote: Does anyone remember how spectacular Kobe was in that game? How about 25 points, 11 rebs, 7 ast, 4 blk?) My favorite memory of this last season was definitely Ron Artest’s interview after Game 7. His joy bordered on delirium. I could relate.

Most heartbreaking Lakers experience: It may sound weird, but when Kobe was charged with sexual assault, it was not just the shock and disappointment of that incident but the dismay that I couldn't enjoy that the Lakers just signed Malone and Payton. I was so excited about that season just days earlier, and to go from so high to so low felt like a punch to the groin.

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Favorite Lakers player: This is a tough one. Of course I love Kobe. But I end up really liking players who are great, genuine, down-to-earth people who know their roles, do it to the best of their ability, and make great contributions to winning Laker teams. Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher are my favorite Lakers currently. Over the years I’ve loved Brian Shaw, Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Trevor Ariza (I was pretty bummed to see him go), and Ron Harper. Ron Artest is really growing on me, and I think I’ll really love Steve Blake.

Greatest all-time Laker: Magic. No question. I'm just sad I didn't get to see him live until his brief return in ’95-’96, when he, of course, just wasn't the same. But I’ve watched probably 50 or so Laker games from the 80s, and I’m truly amazed by the things he could do. Last time you went to a game at Staples Center and at the Forum: Forum? Lakers vs. Hornets in 1995. Staples Center? Game 2, 2010 Playoffs, First Round vs. OKC. I go to 4 or 5 Laker games per year, but as an LA Kings season ticket holder, I’m at Staples all the time.

Opposing team, player you dislike the most: Boston Celtics. Paul Pierce. Everything about Pierce annoys me, from his flopping and flailing, to his doughy physique, to his perpetually whiny face, to his irritating disrespect for the Lakers, to his ridiculously over-inflated ego.

Interactions with Lakers players: I've met and have autographs from Kobe, Shaq, Horry, Shaw, Fox, Eddie Jones, Fisher, and the rest of the 1996-1997 Lakers. Also met and have autographs from Magic (2x), Kareem (no autograph - he was mean! haha), Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, Elgin Baylor and, my favorite, Jerry West… When I met Jerry West, I knew who he was but I didn’t know how GREAT he was. I was only 8 or 9, and I was at a USC basketball game with my mom, which he happened to be attending. While we were in line for food, my mom leans over to me and says, “Hey, that’s Jerry West right there! You should go up and ask him for his autograph!... Now be polite!” I was a shy kid, so I sheepishly walked up to him and barely audibly said “Mr. West, will you please sign this ticket for my mom?” He got a kick out of this, laughed, knelt down and asked me what my name was. I told him and he said to me, “Ok Philip, here you go. But this is for you, ok? Don’t let your mama steal it away!” I nodded and he smiled, put his hands on my shoulders and sent me on my way. I walked away staring at the ticket. If I had truly known what I had in my hands, I wouldn’t have done what I did next: I let my mom hold on to it that night. Of course, she lost it and all I have now is the memory that I made Jerry West laugh.

Most cherished piece of Lakers memorabilia I have: It would have been that ticket that Jerry West signed, but now it’s probably the ball I have autographed by the entire 1996-1997 Lakers team. I met each one individually and they each signed the ball. Horry was the nicest of them all. He had a magnetic smile that instantly made him one of my favorites.

Memorable story about being a Lakers fan: Before the 2010 Finals, my friend – a huge Celtics fan – and I had a bet that essentially amounted to an enormous and expensive game of poker. It went like this: $50 goes to the fan of the winning team at the end of the series, however, after each game, the fan of the winning team can raise the bet by as much as he or she wants. The fan of the losing team can either accept the raise (call) or agree to pay out before the end of the series (fold), and be free of the original $50 bet. After Game 1, I raised $50. He called. After Game 2, he raised $50. I called. After Game 3, I raised $100. He very reticently called. After Game 4, he raised $100. I called. After Game 5, he raised $100. At this point, with the Lakers down 3-2, I had a very scary decision to make. I could either pay out the $300 now (I wouldn’t have to pay the $100 raised after Game 5 OR the original $50), or I could take the risk of being out $450 should the Lakers lose at home in Game 6, or even more if I raised again and they lost in Game 7. But I just had faith they’d come through at home, so I called. After Game 6, I raised $100. He called. We both now had $550 riding on the outcome of Game 7. Yikes! I’m not a rich man, and I’m not usually reckless, so if the Lakers lost, I might not have come out of my bedroom for days. Mid-way through the 3rd quarter, I thought my worst nightmare was coming true, as the Lakers fell behind by 13. To make matters worse, I get a text message from him (which I saved and have on my phone to this day), and it read “I hope u already visited the atm cuz ur about to pay me them $$$! Bos pwns LA. HAHAHAHA” I was sick to my stomach. And then it started – the Lakers began to fight back. I could feel the color return to my face. I screamed and jumped and yelled with every play. And you know the rest of the story. Artest hits a monster 3, Gasol makes a nearly impossible shot with Celtics draped all over him, Sasha sinks two free throws, and I’m $550 richer. Sweetest money I ever made.

--Mark Medina

Twitter.com/latmedina.

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Photo: Phil, left, with his wife, Reese. Phil also has two kids named Javier and Felipe. Courtesy: Phil.

 
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There is nothing sweeter than taking money from a beantown loving moron!

Sweet profile, puddle. Thanks for sharing.

As a Laker fan and Yankee fan, they've won 14 each during my lifetime! Not a bad ratio. Don't start counting and figuring my age now! All that and can still hold down SS for the Yanks, wow! Ha, ha, ha......

BLOG GOD, YOU MAGNIFICENT GENIUS!!!! YOU'RE STILL BATTING A THOUSAND!!
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PUDDLE, I've enjoyed your postings immensely over the years, now to finely meet
you so to speak and put a face with the Posts is great! Great looking family dude!
Puddle wanted to Rock the Fade, Right On brother!!!! Great memories and moments
from am all around great guy. Thank you for giving us a brief slice of the life Puddle.
Oh I’m sorry man, but you just know I got to say it…OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR

\o/ @ Puddle, the Puddle Patrol, and the most nerve-wracking $550 you've ever made in your life!

Puddle,

That's all cool stuff. Have to agree with you on Kareem. My wife and I were on the second floor of a hotel with a wide walkway and no one else around. I ask him if I could take a quick pic with him and he didn't respond or even look my way, just kept walking. Oh well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

My Jerry West story is similar. My parent took me to St. Louis to see the Lakers play the Hawks (yeah, I know, a LONG time ago). I saw him and Elgin, Imhoff and Tommy Hawk sitting in strands during the warm-up college game. I asked my Mom to go and get their autos, but she sent me and said they'd be nice and they were! The deal is I never gave my autos to her and still have mine, ha, ha!

@PUDDLE… What a beautiful wife and kids, Phil. Love your posts and was surprised you were so young. Glad we shared that same moment against the Blazers when Kobe gave Shaq that great alley-oop lob. I thought the same thing as you when BShaw banked in that 3-pointer at the end of the 3rd quarter. However, if I had won $550 on Game 7, that might become my favorite Lakers moment. Nothing like winning money on Lakers.
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You know, I’ve always thought the worst Laker moment was Magic’s announcement that he had AIDS but I may well agree with you that Kobe getting charged with rape in Colorado ended up being worse. It’s a shame that two of the greatest Lakers had to suffer such indignities that many unfairly held against them.
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Anyway, pleasure to learn more about you. Looking forward to sharing the greatest Lakers season ever.
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TOM

@DJ… I agree with you matchups. Thank God we have CC going tonight. Hope you can get out of your slump and get that batting average back to .300. We are approaching your prime time of the year – October.
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TOM

this was one of the best times columns on a fan i have ever read. what great stories!!!

Puddle, I enjoyed too also your posts, I think for the last 3 or 4 years. You have a beautiful family. Keep on betting you will become rich with the Lakers. Don't bet on Bynum's knees. haha just a j/k.

@ htj - Thank you sir! You are right. That was one of the sweetest (and most relief filled) moments of my life!

@ mamba - Coming from the heart and soul of this blog, those are huge compliments. Thank you sir! Can't wait to see your profile!

@utzworld - LOL! No doubt. I honestly was physically ill when I thought we might lose when down 13. I never lost faith though!

@DJ - You're a much wiser man than I! Haha. I still haven't forgiven her to this day for losing my ticket. I secretly suspect she might have kept it for herself!

@LakerTom - Thank you so much. Although I love those two kids in that picture as if they were my own, they actually aren't my children. Javy and Filipe are actually orphans who live at an orphanage in Mexico, which I visit as often as possible. My Spanish is atrocious, but my wife helps me out (she's half Spanish, half Filipino) and the kids love to laugh at my pathetic attempts at Spanish! :)

I look forward to enjoying this upcoming season with all of you! This blog has great people with terrific stories and wonderful insight, and it's been fun to have been a part of it for the last 4 years.

@ brian - Wow, thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed them!

@ Edwin - Thank you for the kind words. LOL about Bynum's knees. I wouldn't bet on it either, but I do have a good feeling about him this year, despite the recent news.

Awesome stories, Puddle.
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!

You rock, puddle! So what's with the Whitesox hat? hahaha just foolin' with you, dude! Cheers!

Staples 24,

you wrote: Now let's compare the crunch time matchups:

PG: Fish / Wade - Huge, HUGE advantage Heat
SG: Kobe / Miller - Advantage Lakers
SF: Artest / Lebron - Advantage Heat
PF: Lamar / Bosh - Advantage Heat
C: Gasol / Dampier? - Advantage Lakers

"That's an advantage for the Heat in 3 out of 5 positions. but either way, this Miami team is STACKED, and will give the Lakers all it can handle, maybe not this year, but for years to come."


Ain't that's the truth, LAKERTRUTH!


The only way Lakers can have the advantage is play BYNUM and takeout ... ooops! (not odom) but Fisher in crunnch time. big five vs big five, Lakers win.


Bynum - big Z Lakers advantage
Gasol - Bosh - lakers advantage
Odom - James Meat advantge
Artest - Miller Lakers advantage
Kobe - Wade Lakers advantage

my response:

*sigh* Does no one try and learn anything?

Let's go through this again.

The *TALL* lineup doesn't work because the defensive transition is too
slow. Bynum is slow. LO is slow.

Bynum does *NOT* have an advantage over Big Z. Z is 2 - 3 inches
taller. Neither are quick. Z is more skilled more accomplished at playing
against big men.

Odom will *NOT* be guarding James. Artest will be guarding James.


LakerTom,

you wrote: As a long-time Lakers fan who now has personally seen 11 NBA championships, I find it ironic that any Lakers fan would be worried about a fantasy team comprised of players who only have one questionable title on their resume, a soft and weak front court, and major issues to resolve regarding who is going to have the ball. Any student of the game who understands how hard it is to win a championship should not disrespect the back-to-back champs. Worry about a genuine contender like Boston if you will, not a pretender like Miami.

my response: Might I suggest that you tone down the rhetoric. The Bulls
beat the Lakers and they only had two HOF players on their team at the
time. I think it is inappropriate for you to talk about their "weak" front
line when our front line has never been healthy and our starting C will miss
some of the pre-season.

Have you forgotten that the Bulls beat the Lakers and the Bulls didn't have
a great front line? The fact is that the Miami Heat have two awesome players
& two reasonable players in Miller & Big Z. They are a significant team.
Let's stop discounting them. Treat them like the threat that they are and
humiliate them as we should without being obnoxiously proud.

Staples 24,

you wrote: Now let's compare the crunch time matchups:

PG: Fish / Wade - Huge, HUGE advantage Heat
SG: Kobe / Miller - Advantage Lakers
SF: Artest / Lebron - Advantage Heat
PF: Lamar / Bosh - Advantage Heat
C: Gasol / Dampier? - Advantage Lakers

"That's an advantage for the Heat in 3 out of 5 positions. but either way, this Miami team is STACKED, and will give the Lakers all it can handle, maybe not this year, but for years to come."


Ain't that's the truth, LAKERTRUTH!


The only way Lakers can have the advantage is play BYNUM and takeout ... ooops! (not odom) but Fisher in crunnch time. big five vs big five, Lakers win.


Bynum - big Z Lakers advantage
Gasol - Bosh - lakers advantage
Odom - James Meat advantge
Artest - Miller Lakers advantage
Kobe - Wade Lakers advantage

my response:

*sigh* Does no one try and learn anything?

Let's go through this again.

The *TALL* lineup doesn't work because the defensive transition is too
slow. Bynum is slow. LO is slow.

Bynum does *NOT* have an advantage over Big Z. Z is 2 - 3 inches
taller. Neither are quick. Z is more skilled more accomplished at playing
against big men.

Odom will *NOT* be guarding James. Artest will be guarding James.


LakerTom,

you wrote: As a long-time Lakers fan who now has personally seen 11 NBA championships, I find it ironic that any Lakers fan would be worried about a fantasy team comprised of players who only have one questionable title on their resume, a soft and weak front court, and major issues to resolve regarding who is going to have the ball. Any student of the game who understands how hard it is to win a championship should not disrespect the back-to-back champs. Worry about a genuine contender like Boston if you will, not a pretender like Miami.

my response: Might I suggest that you tone down the rhetoric. The Bulls
beat the Lakers and they only had two HOF players on their team at the
time. I think it is inappropriate for you to talk about their "weak" front
line when our front line has never been healthy and our starting C will miss
some of the pre-season.

Have you forgotten that the Bulls beat the Lakers and the Bulls didn't have
a great front line? The fact is that the Miami Heat have two awesome players
& two reasonable players in Miller & Big Z. They are a significant team.
Let's stop discounting them. Treat them like the threat that they are and
humiliate them as we should without being obnoxiously proud.

I got one word for Puddle....NICE!!

JR

@ Jon K - Thank you sir. But I gladly relinquish the King of Stories crown to you. Yours are always entertaining! Haha

@ raymond - I KNEW someone was gonna razz me for the White Sox hat! Hahaha. It's all good. I'm a huge Dodger fan, but I have a soft spot for the White Sox, Orioles and Mariners. I have my reasons, but they're long and complicated!

@ JR - One word - THANKS! :)

Puddle,

Your profile is truly amazing. AND, to cap it off, you got to rip $550 out of the pocket of a smug Septic! Classic! I love that you have had so many interactions with the players. That's awesome!

BTW, one of my favorite Kobe highlights is that alley-oop assist to SnaQ as well. Funny how the guy who was considered so selfish would be so well known for an assist, huh? Just like you, when Shaw banked in that three, I new they were coming back. I knew that was a harbinger of what was to come.

I'm with you on Artest's interview, too. Especially the part where he was so excited that Kobe passed him the ball...Hilarity to the extreme.

Nice to meet you, cool profile.

--FEARless

puddle - great profile. I've heard countless stories of Jerry being gracious to kids no matter the situation. A class act.

Puddle -

Nice to meet you my man...great profile...thanks for sharing...

High Five ...on beating the Chowder fan, and TAKING his money...

You have some great Laker memorabilia...I'm jealous...

Looking forward to witnessing this coming season with you...

@HOBBITMAGE… “Might I suggest that you tone down the rhetoric.” With due respect, I don’t see anything wrong with my rhetoric that needs to be toned down. Nor do I think it is “inappropriate” to talk about the Heat’s front court being weak compared to the Lakers. Seriously, if you really believe that Ilgauskas is a better center than Andrew Bynum, then it’s best at this point for us to agree to disagree. Bottom line, I sincerely doubt there is another Lakers fan on this blog who would agree with your position on the Big Z.
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TOM

@ Fearless - Thanks my man. Appreciate it! That's a great point about how one of Kobe's most memorable career moments is an assist - and a great one at that. Wasn't he also the one to kick it out to Horry for the game winning corner 3 vs. the Blazers in Game 3 in 2001? Or how about when he passed to Artest for the monster 3 in Game 7? Dude will just do what it takes to win.

@ 63 footer - Jerry West is undoubtedly a class act. From what I remember, he was genuinely happy to give me an autograph. You've picked your handle wisely :)

@ LEWSTRS - I am lucky to have a ton of sports memorabilia, much of it Lakers related. The best part is, I haven't bought any of it. Over the years I've met such a random collection of athletes and coaches - Rick Barry, Pete Rose, Warren Moon, Jim Brown, Mike Miller, Isiah Thomas (surprisingly, a super nice guy), Ron Cey, Roy Campanella, Paul Sunderland, Mike Montgomery, Jerry Tarkanian, Mike Dunleavy Sr. and many others. Many of these guys I met when I was just a teenager working at different charity events, so I think because I was young they were more willing to sign things for me. I don't ask for autographs now that I'm older, but am happy to talk with guys I happen to meet, like Kyle Lowry, whom I happened to see this summer in a Las Vegas IHOP (random, I know).

Great stuff puddle...is your wife Filipina...leave our women alone bro....J/K

Thanks for sharing Puddle....enjoyed your Lakers story very much.

And I always thought it was puddle because you piddled alot as a kid?!......

Laker Tom,

He's not saying Big Z is better than Bynum but rather that Illgauskus is an underrated factor since he is 7'0+ and is a big body that can be used to help counter the Laker advantage. Neither Gasol nor Bynum was able to dominate Z so far in fact I think short of Garnett Big Z has played better defense on Gasol than anyone.

Reason why I see the Celtics more as a threat because they have legit size to counter the Lakers and Shaq hasn't been dominated by Bynum (and that one dunk was AFTER Shaq dunked on Bynum).

Miami is a legit team and while the Lakers has the size advantage doesn't mean it's always going to win. Heck the Heat proved to be problematic the last two seasons (they weren't pushovers and many games were very close) and they weren't as talented as the Lakers as they are now.

Miller is a very good shooter and can be a good 6th man while Big Z is 7'0 and gives the Heat some size against LA. Hobbit isn't saying Z is better than Bynum but don't count out Z when he can provide a body to go against the Lakers.

@ LEWSTRS - LOL, yeah my wife is half Spanish, half Filipina. Sorry man, I couldn't resist her! Haha

@ Fatty - Maybe I piddled, maybe I didn't. I'll never tell! Haha

Puddle,

I wish I had a friend who was a die-hard Celtics fan. Betting against delusional fans is an easy way to make money:}.

I also met Jerry West when I was in junior high, at the Forum. I went to a game with Keith Erickson's (he used to announce games with Chick in the 80's) son (who was a classmate), and Keith introduced me to Chick, a few of the players, and Jerry West after the game. I did not know who Jerry West was at the time, until the car ride home, when Keith told me that he was the Logo.

After trading away Alonzo, you should thank your lucky stars that you stopped being a Hornets fan, because the very next year, the Hornets did something that was even worse, they traded away Kobe for Vlade Divac. Jerry West was probably 'laughing' after that trade. I'm sure you can relate.

@ LAKER TRUTH - It's funny you should mention the Kobe trade. I was actually UPSET about that trade, because, being the naive 11 year old that I was, I thought it would HELP the Hornets. I was like "Who the heck is Kobe Bryant? We just lost Vlade! To the Hornets!!" Hence the reason they don't let 11 year olds become GMs... or hold any jobs for that matter. Haha.

I can introduce you to a whole slew of delusional Celtics fans if you want! A few play fantasy basketball with me, and every year I laugh as someone drafts Kendrick Perkins in the 5th round.

So supposedly one of the big holdups keeping New York from being able to trade for Carmelo Anthony is that they don't have any draft picks they can trade until 2014.

I don't think the Clippers are willing to give up Griffin or Gordon to get Carmelo (and I don't think the Nugs would trade Carmelo without getting at least one of those two back in the deal), but perhaps the Clips could facilitate a 3-way trade for the Knicks and improve their own roster in the process.

What do you think of this idea:

Clippers send
Minnesota's first round pick (top 10 protected next year or unprotected in 2011) plus their own first round pick in either 2011 or 2012 (maybe top 3 protected) to Denver
Al-Farouq Aminu to Denver

Denver sends Carmelo Anthony to New York

New York sends
Danilo Gallinari to the Clippers
Eddy Curry's expiring contract to Denver
any combination of Chandler, Azubuike, Douglas, Mason, Randolph,Mozgov, &/or Turiaf. to Denver

That way Denver gets two GOOD 1st round picks (Minnesota & Clippers), plus 2 or 3 young players with potential.

New York gets Carmelo.

And the Clippers get Gallinari to start at SF, their weakest position. And they become a damn good offensive team, with Baron Davis at the point, Gallo and Gordon hitting the outside shots, and Griffin and Kaman manning the post.

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The only flaw is that I'm not sure that would be enough for Denver. Unless they're pretty high on Anthony Randolph or Wilson Chandler or something. They'd probably prefer Derrick Favors from Jersey.

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What do you think? If you were the Clips, would you give up Aminu and a couple of draft picks (your own pick protected) for Danilo Gallinari?

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Byron Scott took his second team to the NBA finals this season?

Not likely, I know, but I would laugh SOOOOO hard to see LeBron and Shaq and Z's pouty faces (not to mention Bosh and Wade and Pierce and Garnett and Allen) as Byron Scott coached LeBronze's sidekicks to the Eastern Conference Championship.

Puddle,

Cool profile. Great stories. He's a little sumthin, sumthin taking you back to the hi-top fade days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFSyBBglmpI

Puddle,

Enjoyed the story of the ongoing bet between you and the Celtics fan.

As a poker player - my advice for next year (which hopefully is a rematch) is to think of the odds every step of the way. Your friend failed to consider odds, and your raise after game 6 offered too many odds to your friend there...

Let me show you what I mean...
Lakers win game 1. You know that the Lakers are 75% favorites to win the series. You offer him 50/50. He should only call you if you offer 75/25 or 3/1.. so stupid call on his part. Good raise there.
Game 2, Ray Ray goes nutso and Derek disappears... your friend RAISES like an idiot. He should have just checked it through there since his team STILL has less than a 50% chance at winning... but good call on your part since you're the favorite and he's giving you 5/1 odds on your money (treating your money as money in the pot). You call, there's $300 in the pot
Lakers win game 3 in a gritty grinder game... Lakers are a massive favorite now, something like 80%. You should not offer anything less than 4/1... and you do NOT (smart guy)... he has to call $100 to win $400... pretty much the exact odds here.
Game 4, Big Baby slobbers everywhere (or was that game 5?)... and your friend still has less than 50% chance. He should just check.

But the fool bets out $100! Celtic green got to his head here, pot is now offering you 6:1 and your team is STILL the favorite! easy call, stupid bet on his part

Celts win game 5. Okay, now your friend should bet something like $600. His team is 50-50, or maybe a slight favorite here like 65-35. What's he do? bets $100, giving you 9:1 on your money. The Lakers have a far greater chance than 10% of winning the series. EASY CALL.

Game 6, you gave him something like 12:1 on his money and the Celtics had perhaps a 40% chance of winning the game... again, pot sized bet here... you're the favorite, get it in + increases the chance that he'll fold out his equity

:-)

Just a poker player's perspective here... larger bets as the series goes on and your team holds the advantage... do not bet/raise when you're team has less than 50% and your friend is willing to call (would be different if you were broke and couldn't call)

Hey puddle - met you on a chat here a few weeks ago. Great bio. Few thoughts:

1) Did you read my mind regarding your comments on Paul Pierce? It was as if I was reading my own thoughts but written more eloquently
2) I also won a bet regarding the finals but the bastard hasn't paid out yet!
3) How did you meet the whole 96-97 team?

Puddle,

You are cracking me up. I thought you were a 60 year old man.

Wes

TRADE BYNUM (SLACKER) FOR KEVIN DURANT:

MJ over Sam Bowie!!

Hi puddle - nice to finally meet you! BEAUTIFUL wife and (sort of your) kids LOL! Looking forward to talking Lakers again with you this year.

@BLITZ… Thanks for the explanation. Bottom line, I don’t disrespect the Heat or the talent of LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. I just think it is foolish and naïve to elevate them to the Lakers level based on their individual histories, the fact that LeBron and Wade essentially have very similar games that demand having the ball in their hands, and what I consider to be a front court that is weak and soft compared to the Lakers and Celtics. We are defending champions and have won more rings in the last two years than all 3 Heat stars combined. If that is being “obnoxiously proud” as Hobbitmage proclaimed, then so be it. IMO, the Heat will be lucky to make the finals this year and lucky to win even a single championship unless they upgrade their front court.
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TOM

Tim-4-Show, hilarious take on puddle's great story. This blog really is a diverse group.

@ Tim-4-Show - That was great! I love that kind of stuff. Great reasoning, very logical.

You have me pegged. I am definitely not a poker player. Still, at the end, I knew I was probably being overly conservative. I knew the Lakers would have to be heavy favorites at home in a game 7 and I part of me wanted to bet more, but I feared my wife might just stab me in my sleep if I lost like $1000. So in hindsight, I would have definitely bet more after game 6, but $500 was already pushing it for me so I decided to err on the side of caution.

Puddle...

That was a great profile. I enjoyed every word.

I can't imagine that game 7 with an extra $550 riding on it. I watched maybe 15 total minutes of that game, the rest of the time i was on the phone in the other room letting my friend relay the plays to me.

I just couldn't watch untill midway thru the 4th.

And i loved the kindness that Jerry West showed you. That's a pretty awsome memory.

Wes

LRob - LOL! Oh man, that hair was awesome! You have no idea how happy I was when Brandon Jennings brought back the high top fade this year...

http://www.phillygameday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jennings_brandon.jpg

Oh yeah Puddle.

Wait for my profile and you'll see another bad interaction with Kareep Abdul jabbar.

Wes

puddle: That was the best story about winning a bet I've seen. The sweetest part is that he tweeted you about visiting an ATM. I wonder how much he later regretted that, haha.

Great story about West too, too bad you don't have that ticket stub. Don't feel too bad though, my sister worked at Torrance court house, about 10 years ago Joe Montana walks in for some infraction he got, and while waiting in line strikes up a conversation with her while waiting in line. After a few minutes of small talk, she asks him what he does, incredibly. She said he laughed, told her he was an athlete and signed an autograph for her.

Later that night, she calls me and asks if I know who Joe Montana is, I'm like duh.. yeah! I think she really felt stoopid lol. The fact that for a few minutes my sister could be talking to a legend, and not even realize it, I think it's kind of like what happened to you with Jerry West. Except that my sister was around 40yrs old when that happened, so don't feel bad, lol.

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I'm with KB Blitz, the C's are a bigger threat than the meat...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Edwin Gueco:

You handled the phred situation in a very wise way. I always considered you as the wise man of this blog and of course enjoy reading your colorful posts. There are very few posters whose posts I read otherwise I scroll past 90% of them, and yours is one I always stop and read.

keep up the good work and please continue to shower us with your wisdom.

cheers!

LakerTom,

KB Blitz wrote: He's not saying Big Z is better than Bynum but rather that Illgauskus is an underrated factor since he is 7'0+ and is a big body that can be used to help counter the Laker advantage. Neither Gasol nor Bynum was able to dominate Z so far in fact I think short of Garnett Big Z has played better defense on Gasol than anyone.

my response:

Big Z - http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ilgauzy01.html

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300121005
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/basketball/nba/game/Cavaliers_Lakers/2009/12/25

In both of the games against the Cavs last year, Bynum didn't do very well.
It is not that Big Z is a great C. It's that he's not nearly as bad as you're
making him out.

If Bynum was ringing up 20/10 against Z then I wouldn't have said anything.
The fact, as I understand it, is that Bynum hasn't done particularly well
against Big Z and I'm not sure there's grounds to believe that that will
change based upon history.

We keep having this problem. If I don't say that Bynum is the best center in
the world, you immediately think that I'm saying he's a scrub. That is
factually not true. Between your Bynum hyperbole & your perception of my
Bynum negativity lies the truth. Notice I said "perception of my Bynum
negativity".

Can't we be honest about our players?

@puddle - Hilarious story about the poker bet. Not much of a gambler myself (except in Vegas, than you have to pry me away from a craps table and my scotch) but I can appreciate the emotional investment. Too bad about the ticket, Mom's have a funny way of letting things disappear in their purses.


I'm wondering why no picture of you with a high top fade was posted?

hobbitmage: I haven't seen a single thing about LakerTom's rhetoric that he needs to tone down, he's not said a single insulting or inciting thing at all.

If you think that Big-Z at center alongside Bosh, who at 35 and having slowed as much as has over the past two years, is a serious threat to the Lakers, well that is fine. I wouldn't worry much about that though, they simply have no one at all to counter Bynum - who would be the difference in any series vs the meat. Definitely, I won't be losing sleep over it, you can count on that.

Why the problem in discussing the meat? Long time observers, like LakerTom, can see that they have talent that overlaps, rather than compliments each other. They have two players, yes they are great, but play essentially the same role's on their teams in the past. Bosh has frankly been dominated by Bynum in the past. LakerTom is keeping it real, realizing they aren't the threat people are making them out to be.


GO LAKERS!!!!!

@ wes - Hahahaha, you thought I was 60 years old? Dang. I guess I need to throw in more OMGs, LMFAOs and LOLWUT?s in my conversations!

Yeah, having $550 riding on that game was intense. I'm already on edge during playoff games anyway. I was in knots the entire game 7.

@ LFICT - I think we ALL share those thoughts about Paul Pierce. Dude is just a punk!

Sorry bout not getting your earnings yet! I actually haven't been fully paid myself. I agreed to let him pay in $50 monthly installments. I won't be fully paid until the Lakers are back in the Finals next year!

I met the 96-97 team through a friend of my parents, who split season tickets with some friends. They had access to a couple practices a year. I was good friends with his son and he took the two of us to a practice and we got to meet all the players except Corie Blount, who never came over to interact with us. (I know, what a loss!) We still ended up getting his autograph thanks to one of the team managers who ran and got it for us.

@ justa - Thanks for the kind words! I hope to see your profile up soon? ;)

hobbitmage:

Would you trade Bynum for Kevin Durant?

@ CyberCosmiX - First of all, love the handle. Second of all, my buddy regrets that text more than the bet, I think. He truly believes he jinxed his team as soon as he sent it, and he might be right. He sent that text RIGHT after the Septics went up 13. Lastly, great story about your sister. That's totally something my sports-allergic brother would do. Hahaha

@ Jaime Sweet - Oh man, you joke about me having the high top fade, but I honestly asked for one at the barbershop when I was 10, and the lady looked at me like I was insane. But I was dead serious. I wanted a flat top. So she gave it her best shot, and I ended up looking like Drago, except without muscles, without a supercool accent and with a cowlick right in the front of my hair...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Cvo4jwbe8wE/STzDR5WUmCI/AAAAAAAAByY/I1fiQRABJc4/s400/Ivan_Drago_tif_big.jpg

hobbitmage: "If Bynum was ringing up 20/10 against Z then I wouldn't have said anything.
The fact, as I understand it, is that Bynum hasn't done particularly well
against Big Z and I'm not sure there's grounds to believe that that will
change based upon history.
We keep having this problem. If I don't say that Bynum is the best center in
the world, you immediately think that I'm saying he's a scrub. That is
factually not true. Between your Bynum hyperbole & your perception of my
Bynum negativity lies the truth. Notice I said "perception of my Bynum
negativity".
Can't we be honest about our players?"
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It's not only LakerTom, or myself, or others on this blog that say it. I know that I'm sick of seeing that the Heat should be/will be the odds-on favorite's to win it all. Bynum doesn't post numbers because of the fact the Lakers have others that put up numbers, like frontcourt mate Gasol and Kobe. Bynum also isn't the focal-point of the triangle as Shaq was, although the shift to him will slowly, inevitably start happening.

It just so happens that the biggest 'mismatch' the Lakers hold over the meat is probably at center, and that will probably be the deciding factor if these teams meet.

Big Z was not much of a factor at all with the Cavs last year, and Shaq's sporadic use nullified much of his affect on the offense, too. Don't know if Riley -errr- Spoelstra will be able to use Big Z and Damps more effectively than Mike Brown use his centers, but this is one spot the Lakers can exploit.

I know I am 'keeping it real' about the Lakers when I say that Bynum/Gasol/Odom > Bosh/Big-Z/Dampier.


GO LAKERS!!!!!

"I know I am 'keeping it real' about the Lakers when I say that Bynum/Gasol/Odom > Bosh/Big-Z/Dampier."

Yup, that pretty much sums it up. Nicely said CCX. (Damn, even your shortened name is badass! Mine sounds like a mix between poodle and cuddle. Not so manly haha)

Right on, puddle.
Nice profile!

I don't see where Laker Tom is being dishonest on his post about the Lakers, Heat and AB...

We understand you don't care for or have confidence in Bynum, but to try to squeeze negativity out of someones post...to try to persuade us to lean on your opinion, is really not necessary...

I'll be HONEST about Bynum:

I still feel he has the potential to be our next big star...
I feel he will have a great coming season...
He IS the difference when we match up against the Heat..(one of the differences, and I feel the biggest)...
He is the best big man in the league, minus Howard...
My conclusions will stay this way, till proven different...

Of course this is all IMHO...everyone is entitled to their own...

Puddles,
Great profile and nice to meet you and your lovely family.
Also shout out on previous wonderful profiles of TNT and PLG.

Mamba24,
I read comments about your profile but I could not find one. Did I miss yours?

puddle: "Nicely said CCX. (Damn, even your shortened name is badass! Mine sounds like a mix between poodle and cuddle. Not so manly haha)"
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Sounds like a car model, lol. puddle is cool though because of the meaning behind it, your initials. Mine are pretty random outside of trying to fill cyber and comic book-related name lol. Gotta admit, I was off and on this board for a couple of years, and my original nick got hijacked 'LakerMike' lol, so went with this.

Gotta say, think you might have a 'name-shortening' fetish goin on, based on your profile and this post on! lol...

Its nice that MM has this profile's series, it's been great to know about the 'person behind the posts'.


GO LAKERS!!!!!

puddle -

I think puddle is a great handle...very versatile...

You can tag team a troll with Mud...and call yourself Puddle of Mud...
You can say, I'm Puddle, but don't drink the water or you'll get Yellow Fever...
You can say..."the Lakers played slow, but like a Puddle turning into a Flood", the Lakers poured it on..."
You can flirt...saying, "My name is puddle, but if you meet with me, I will gladly change it to 'cuddle'...

so you options are endless...I'll leave you with...

My name was Phil, but I met my wife, and I made a puddle...;-)

Cyber,

With all due respect, you are completely missing Hobbit's point. He's NOT arguing that the Heat has a better front court. He simply made a point that Big Z, (although he's old, slow, and past his prime) has given both Gasol and Bynum problems in the past couple seasons. He was able to spread the floor and open up the paint for Lebron on offense with his mid-range game, while playing admirably on defense against both Gasol and Bynum. In short, Big Z held his own against our big men. He put his big body on them, and made it difficult for our big men to shoot over him. I remember the games against the Cavs, and I remember thinking "WOW, Big Z is really making life difficult for Gasol and Bynum". It's just another example of Laker fans taking the Heat way too lightly.

LEWSTRS: "I still feel he has the potential to be our next big star...
I feel he will have a great coming season...
He IS the difference when we match up against the Heat..(one of the differences, and I feel the biggest)...
He is the best big man in the league, minus Howard...
My conclusions will stay this way, till proven different...

Of course this is all IMHO...everyone is entitled to their own..."
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I wholeheartedly concur, and believe that within 2 years we'll see Bynum surpass Howard. I think that right now, Bynum is a better offensive player than Dwight though.

I want to post this, don't know if you guys have seen it. Hadarii Jones is a great Bleacher Report writer, he's the a Laker featured columnist:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/419563-andrew-bynum-is-the-center-of-truth-in-miami-heats-title-myth

Here's a couple quotes:
Once Bynum establishes position in the post, he is virtually unstoppable, and he has shown the ability to spin to either hand once he has an opponent pinned under the basket.

Bynum's offensive progression has been admirable, but his biggest impact for the Lakers is on the defensive end, where his size and strength make him a deterrent at the rim.

The Boston Celtics were visibly intimidated by Bynum in the 2010 NBA Finals, and his defensive presence was one of the main reasons the Lakers were able to hold their own against the gritty Celtics.

Miami will undoubtedly round out the rest of their roster with decent players, but will any of them present the same challenges in the post to the Lakers that the Celtics did in the Finals?

It's highly unlikely, and should the Heat prevail over the Celtics or the Orlando Magic (both much stronger in the paint), they will find the NBA's top frontline waiting for them.

It's nice to dream about the potential of a team featuring James, Wade, and Bosh, but until they find an answer for the Lakers' Bynum, those dreams will likely turn to nightmares if the two teams meet in the 2011 NBA Finals.


Good stuff...


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Puddle, at 26 you have had many interactions with Lakers players and other athletes, you are fortunate, but good for you! I like the poker style of betting, Tim4Show took it to another level though.

Mamba24,I read comments about your profile but I could not find one. Did I miss yours? Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 23, 2010 at 05:46 PM
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Naw, I'm just finishing it up now. I'll probably send it to MM tomorrow or Saturday. And you sir? Lol!

Puddle....Loved your profile. Wow, what a beautiful family!! I too thought you were older, I guess your wise beyond your years. Your wife is beautiful and your kids are too cute!!

I currently do NOT see Bynum as our next "big star"...

I DO see Bynum has being at/close to the best Center in the game at one point... but in a league where all the centers suck, that's not saying a whole lot.

What I need to see from Bynum is more consistent rebounding, some go-to moves (score off the block) and consistent defensive effort. He brings the consistent defensive effort... his effort on the glass comes and goes and has never been as good as he's capable, and frankly, his post presence should be greater than it is... much of his points and FG% are generated because of Kobe.... that works great while you have Kobe, but it sucks once Kobe leaves.

I truly think Bynum has it in him (He's capable) to become the next great - but what he showed me early last season (when healthy) really made me think he'll never get there

Good? Sure. He'll be a good player (already is)...
Great? Not looking good right now, he has to turn the corner

@JLF - Thanks man. Agreed about TNT and PLG's profiles. Those were great! All of them so far have been great! I really am enjoying getting to know the people here.

@LEW - Holy crap dude, that post was hilarious!

@CCX - I DO have a name shortening fetish. I don't know what that all about! I call justanothermambafan "justa" or "JAMF". I call LakerFanInCowTown "LFICT". I just don't like to type so many letters. Ironically, puddle is more to type than PDL. Go figure.

@ LakerJ - You're so right. I have been so blessed in my life, I sometimes feel guilty. Meeting so many great athletes is just one of the many perks in my lifetime I haven't deserved, but am grateful to have received.

@NMLL - Aw, thanks so much! I probably should have told MM this when I sent him the picture, but Javy and Felipe actually aren't my children, as much as I love them. They live in an orphanage in Mexico, which I try to visit as often as possible. Despite my horrible Spanish (or because of it? haha), the kids and I have a ton of fun together.

Hobbit,

Personally, I don't think being optimistic about the Lakers chances over Miami is the kind of rhetoric that needs to be toned down. If LT thinks that the Heat's front court is weak, that is his opinion and his prerogative, nothing inappropriate there.The froncourt consists of more than the Center position if I'm not mistaken.
On the other hand, you responded to his post first, and not him to yours, other than to say we have to agree to disagree. I know that there is a history there, but he has been willing to start anew, it seems.
I do believe that you can disagree with his posts and not have to tell him to tone down the rhetoric or that it's inappropriate to have his opinion.
I believe you always have to have a healthy military-type of respect for your adversaries, and not undermine their potential. So I would be cautious against Miami, Boston and even Orlando. Let's not forget what happened to us against the Pistons. So while I do not share completely Laker Tom's views, I do not see them as inappropriate, and appreciate his optimism. I do believe we will threepeat. Go Lakers! My 2 cents.

@ Laker J - very well said...I would vote for you for president...lol

@ Mamba24 - seriouly...a profile submitted...I can't wait baybee...

@ CXX - wow how your handle changes when shortened...sounds like a fortune 500 company...lol

@ Tim-4-Show - I agree we shouldn't under estimate the Heat...but why are they underestimating the Lakers...not once have I heard they will try, it will be tough or they are the reigning champs...It's we will win 6 in a row...That cockiness and disrespect is why I can't give them any validity at all...

puddle - lol - don't hold your breath....

LAKER TRUTH: "With all due respect, you are completely missing Hobbit's point. He's NOT arguing that the Heat has a better front court. He simply made a point that Big Z, (although he's old, slow, and past his prime) has given both Gasol and Bynum problems in the past couple seasons. He was able to spread the floor and open up the paint for Lebron on offense with his mid-range game, while playing admirably on defense against both Gasol and Bynum. In short, Big Z held his own against our big men. He put his big body on them, and made it difficult for our big men to shoot over him. I remember the games against the Cavs, and I remember thinking "WOW, Big Z is really making life difficult for Gasol and Bynum". It's just another example of Laker fans taking the Heat way too lightly."
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I see what hobbitmage is saying, but disagree. The thing is, I mostly didn't like that he was telling LakerTom to 'tone it down' when all he was saying was that the Laker bigs matched up well to the meat, and that Riley mistakenly went after Mike Miller with his MLE than a better center than what they got. Nothing to tone down there, wouldn't you agree?

Getting more specific though, Big-Z has been the biggest center in the east for pretty much the whole past decade, nothing new there. He's what, 7'3''? He is a big body, to say the least.

Looking at his offensive game, it's mostly based upon jumpers over smaller centers, and playing outside the key, setting picks and whatnot. He lacks the post-play that the meat will need to establish against the Lakers, because Laker size will take them out of a lot of what they do, and the physical brand of defense that Artest can supply on LeBron, as well as Kobe being able to slow down Wade on offense.

Big Z will get some rebounds simply because of his presence on defense, his body, but he has slowed down quite a bit from when he was all-star a few years back. The Cav's weren't even too concerned when they traded him for Jamison, although they ended up re-signing him.

Dampier is much of the same, he is a big body, a good rebounder, but a liability on offense. That dude averaged 1ppg in the playoffs.

So, some defensive ability, but they'll be hurting big-time trying to score with their front-court, with both Big-Z and Bosh preferring to work outside the key. I will also predict that they will be getting out rebounded on most nights, too, at least while Dampier isn't on the floor.

Am I a Laker homer for saying these things? I try to think I'm being a Laker realist moreso...

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If you guys dig CCX better than CyberCosmiX, I'll ditch it for the shorter name.

See what you started puddle! lol....


GO LAKERS!!!!!

I see everyone is stepping it up and getting into mid-season form, and we haven't even seen a practice report or exhibition game played. Most excellent! I thought we might have to reign in the insta-post while Mark is out and about on assignment before you guys derailed, but you put on the brakes yourselves, so much appreciated on that front.

I just wanted to add to a couple of threads.

First, I'm not sure some of the crunch-time matchups will be what you're posting. Remember, in the final two minutes of close games it's all half-court basketball with timeouts and dead-ball situations used by coaches to freely substitute a defensive and offensive lineup. When the Lakers have the ball, Fisher and Blake might both be on the court with Kobe, Odom and Gasol, while on the defensive end it could be Brown, Kobe, Odom, Gasol and Bynum/Ratliff (depending on foul situation). The Heat will have their versions of each lineup as well.

I believe this . . . the Heat will have no problem winning 55-60 games in the Eastern Conference, which is still weaker top to bottom than the West. And I agree with those who believe Miami might have trouble actually coming together as a team. I always tell people, 'it's not the team with the best players that win but the players who work together best as a team that win.' The Lakers have proven what they can do as a team; the Heat have seven months to show us that their reconstructed, top-heavy trio of a lineup can mesh and deliver.

Keep it clean and constructive, folks. Until later . . .

@ Laker J - very well said...I would vote for you for president...lol


Thanks LEWSTRS, but only if you run for vicepresident. On second thought, never mind, I would surely get shot!!!

Mamba24,I read comments about your profile but I could not find one. Did I miss yours? Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 23, 2010 at 05:46 PM
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Naw, I'm just finishing it up now. I'll probably send it to MM tomorrow or Saturday. And you sir? Lol!

Posted by: mamab24 | September 23, 2010 at 05:58 PM

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I like somone else pointed out am concerned as to who has access to the info. I chose to throw tidbits in my comments previously but still debating if I will do redacted version for blog. LOL


@LRob,

Don't forget about Special Delivery's The Lonely One. That was huge also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXD0gkB9jFM

Now you know I love GFR, they're practically Detroiters (Flint). I always felt they were underrated from a historical standpoint, so its nice to see you give them some love. Inside Looking Out was definitely a classic. Some didn't like them when they softened their sound a few years later, but they still was jamming. Who doesn't love, "We're An American Band?"...but this was my favorite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7B5jXYRy3Q

Posted by: LRob | September 21, 2010 at 10:01 PM

LRob, I don't recall that 'Special Delivery' tune. It must not have gotten much airplay here, that...or I wasn't listening to the 'quiet storm' much at that time.(LOL)

Also, I believe that GFR's 'We're an American Band' was produced by Todd Lundgren who I felt totally changed their sound and tried to make them more of a 'crossover' band, and in the process, ruined the band. They were never the same after that.

Welcome back, 'Dan the Man'!

Right on with your post. I agree the meat will do well in the regular season, much like the Cavs with the little princess did.

It is when the playoff spotlight is burning brightest, in tight, end of game situations, that the little princess dreaded the most, as she would mostly shrink and tighten up, nervously lock up, and try to play one-on-five. I think that she recognized that, and that is the primary reason she wanted to go somewhere she could 'hide' on the offense, especially in tight playoff moments.

The little princess was never able to implement the rest of her teammates in Cleveland, even though she had a squad built around her, around her skills. Now she's hoping that her teammates will carry her at the end of close games. She's not a closer, not a long-shot, so she realized she needed to go somewhere that others could close the deal for her. Carry her along to the finish line.

Regular season should go fairly well for the meat in the Leastern Conference, except I predict Spoelstra will be dead-man-walking, cast overboard by Captain Riles soon as a two-game losing streak gives him cover to do so (he picked off a ring from Van Gundy that way before!).

It's good to see our Michael Cooper back, our 6th man of the year, super-sub Dan Loumena!


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Okay so Nellie is out with GS. Well its about time. Don't get me wrong he did a great job with Milwaukee in the 80's, helped Dallas become top flight recently and had a lot of fun teams in GS. But recently his coaching and gimmicks became a joke. Hopefully the sideshow is over in GS and they can get back to playing some serious bball.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5608982&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines


@Wes,

Thanks for the links. I'll try to check out some of the titles listed in that top 20 Kung Fu movies of all-time.

BTW, I just received the '7 Grand Masters' and will prolly watch it this weekend. I'll get back to ya lata on that one.


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!


@LT,

My favorite Sean Connery movie is 'The Man Who Would Be King' in which he starred with his close acting buddy Michael Caine...great movie.


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

@CCX… There’s your answer, Mike. Been loving your posts and appreciate the support. It’s been such a pleasure the last few days to see the appreciation the fans have for Andrew’s value in the playoffs translate into a wave of bloggers coming to his defense. His health and his play will be a huge factor in whether the Lakers three-peat and its great to see the tide has turned for Drew.
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When will fans finally realize that what they’ve seen so far in LeBron is all they’re going to see? How long before you realize that LeBron is just Tracy McGrady in a bigger more physical body? Don’t forget that this is the guy who basically quit on his team down the stretch in the playoffs. Bottom line, championship heart and teamwork and the matchups all favor the Lakers.
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@DAN L… Thanks for stopping by. Great comments on the Heat. I appreciate that both you and MM are now starting to take more of a stand on issues by being freer in expressing your opinions. You guys are the blogger(s) after all. As moderators, I think you do a great job of helping address issues fairly and intelligently and I love the frequent comments just to set the facts straight. That as much as anything will help confrontations get out of hand. Keep coming by. Love your takes.
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TOM

Wow, great profile puddle!

I've been thinking about doing one of my own, but I don't know how much I can say. I mean, I've never met a Laker past or present, I've never been to a game, and I don't have that many good stories. I could just make stuff up ha ha ha.


Maybe it's the cold medicine, but if Ron chooses to call attention to mental health by auctioning off his ring, basically saying "there are more important things in life than basketball" then I think it lessens the gesture if he's given the ring back.

Mental health IS more important than basketball. There are a lot of things that are more important than basketball. Ron recognizes that and has focused on a particular thing (dear to him) and if he's willing to actually auction off the ring, then it's a more powerful statement if it doesn't come back to him, which effectively lessens the sacrifice, and without the sacrifice, it's not much of a gesture is it?

Posted by: 63 Footer | September 22, 2010 at 02:38 PM
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@63 Footer, I totally agree. Receiving another ring would definitely make the gesture meaningless imo.


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!


I'm pretty sure the doctor delayed the surgery because of swelling in the knee. So Bynum's choices were to sit at home on his butt and do nothing, or enjoy the only "time off" he was going to get. Honestly I don't begrudge him using his time off to enjoy himself.

And to those comparing this to Shaq delaying his surgery and saying "I'm gonna heal on company time," it is totally different! Even IF the delay in surgery was Bynum's choice, he did get it done in July. Remember, Shaq waited until September (right before training camp) to get his surgery! Jeez people, please quit harping on Bynum about this.

Posted by: Troy B | September 22, 2010 at 07:51 PM
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Troy B, I've been saying the same thing for a while now. I guess some people don't feel that pro athletes should have a life outside of their respective livelyhoods. I believe if these guys didn't have outside interests they'd prolly burnout in no time...all work and no play...


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

From the Self-Editing Dept.:

I probably should have included Artest on the Lakers' end-of-game defensive lineup! Big oversight.

Going to have a new post up soon. And it's going to set off another huge thread, I predict!

And thanks for the 'Welcome Backs.'

@TROY B… “I've been thinking about doing one of my own, but I don't know how much I can say. I mean, I've never met a Laker past or present, I've never been to a game, and I don't have that many good stories.”
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To me, the most interesting parts of the profiles aren’t the Lakers stories but getting to know the person behind the blog handles we’ve come to know and love (or hate, LOL), some for many years. I love the pictures and family and personal stuff, like to know what you do for a living, where did you go to school, how old you are, what made you a Lakers fan, do you believe in God and Obama, OK just kidding. Anyway, I love your takes, Troy, so get working on that profile right away. Same for the rest of you. Nobody has to reveal anything they don’t want to. It’s just a way to meet. :-)
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I'm not quite sure why anyone's worried about the Heat (or any other team for that matter). There will always be good teams, there will always be teams with multiple stars, but every team has weaknesses, and you better believe that Phil Jackson is looking for them and planning for them. Even his recent remarks point to that already beginning.

Whether DWade, Lebron and Bosh jell/gel or not, it just doesn't matter. Lakers need to play Lakers basketball, and with our length, our experience, our versatility, and Kobe, we can take ANY team in a series.

It's the Lakers' ability to evolve their play from game to game that makes them so dangerous. Go tall, we can go taller; go speedy, we can do that; clamp down defense, we have a guy who cannot be stopped; cut off the perimeter, we go inside, and vice-versa; we even have a bench now. What's the big deal?

Will someone on the other team go off on a night? Sure. Will a second guy? It happens. But it's not like we don't have our own players to go off right back at them. Plus, I'll take Phil over everyone out there, even Riley.

If the Lakers can stay healthy, we can beat anyone. Doesn't matter if the other team is working on on 12 cylinders or not. We be turbo-charged and ready for anything.

Just my 2 cents (and the cold medicine).

Posted by: 63 Footer | September 22, 2010 at 08:34 PM
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63 Footer, Kudos! Best damn post I've read in a while.


Lets' go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

ESPN News;


Erick Dampier is leaning toward signing with the Miami Heat, according to league sources. The 35-year-old center is expected to announce his decision Thursday night or Friday.

Dampier visited the Heat on Wednesday and was presented with a one-year offer for the veteran's minimum of $1.4 million after meeting with president Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra, sources said.

Houston, which Dampier also visited this week, has offered Dampier a two-year, $4 million deal. The opportunity to win a championship alongside Miami's super trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh has Dampier favoring the Heat.

Miami did not promise Dampier, a 14-year veteran, the starting center position, but he would seem to have the edge over Joel Anthony, Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Jamaal Magloire.

Though he averaged six points and 7.3 rebounds for Dallas last season, Dampier would be a big signing for the Heat. At 6-foot-11, 265 pounds, he would fill the only real hole on Miami's roster -- that of a big man who can physically match up with Orlando's Dwight Howard, Boston's Shaquille O'Neal and the Los Angeles Lakers' Andrew Bynum.

Bynum is not ready again for pre-season. Why did he go to Africa for World Cup and delayed his surgery?


The elite has caught up with BIGS like 4 deep in their rotation for Centers all in response of Andrew Bynum.


If Bynum gets injured again in the playoffs (he is not even helathy yet) Gasol will be in trouble and the 37 year old Ratliff. In other words Lakers are going to be in trouble.


Bynum will be injured once again this year. The guy just isn't sound, his past history should be proof enough. Glass knees, suspect achilles, and suspect work ethic.
Just another reason why My Heat team will embarass the Lakers if they are unfortunate to make it to the Finals. Laker fans should be more concerned about the Thunder. They are better this year and are more athletic than the Lakers.

THE KING HAS SPOKEN
LONG LIVE THE KING AND HIS DYNASTY
FOR MY GOD IS A STERN GOD

Oh and by the way, Erick Dampier will soon be a Heat player.The final piece of the puzzle in place.

THE KING HAS SPOKEN
LONG LIVE THE KING AND HIS DYNASTY
FOR MY GOD IS A STERN GOD

LakerTom: "When will fans finally realize that what they’ve seen so far in LeBron is all they’re going to see? How long before you realize that LeBron is just Tracy McGrady in a bigger more physical body? Don’t forget that this is the guy who basically quit on his team down the stretch in the playoffs. Bottom line, championship heart and teamwork and the matchups all favor the Lakers."
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If I may:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

muhahahaaa.....

The lack of interest he showed in that performance against the Celtics was incredible, appalling and shocking at the same time. Here is 'the Chosen One'? Here is 'King James'? We 'Witnessed' alright - witnessed a player that plain gave up on his team.

What got me the most, the most incredibly egotistical, self-centered quote I have ever heard a player utter at the end of this abominable display: "I spoil people with my play." (at 3:15 of the above video).

I guess he didn't feel like spoiling us with his play that night, huh?


GO LAKERS!!!!!

If ESPN is correct and Dampier signs with Miami, that will definitely make them better. It will also mean that they‘ll have to get rid of Joel Anthony, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, or Jamaal Magloire because they’re not going to go into the season with 4 centers, none of whom can really play power forward. Much will depend upon how much gas Damp has in the tank. There were games where he played well against Drew and others where he was completely dominated. With the Heat and the Celtics, it’s going to be the 22-year old “kid” versus the 35-year old veteran centers – Shaq and Damp.
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TOM

LakerTom: I think Dampier gives them another serviceable body, and he is a decent rebounder, but gives them nothing on offense. So I'm gonna do something I don't like to do, hit the stats:

Dampier's about a 7-points per game,7-rebounds per game average throughout his career, that is about what he got last season too.

A few years back, I'd say that Big-Z would be a factor, but he has shown to have really slowed down in the past couple seasons, and the stats bring that to bear. He's was almost a total non-factor for the Cavs last year, 7-ppg, 5-rpg and a .44 shooting percentage, lousy for a center (compare that to Bynum's incredible .568 lifetime shooting percentage, .570 last season!).

Magloire, don't ask. 2-ppg, 3-rpg.

Bynum by the way averaged 15-ppg, 8-rpg last season.

I just can't see how some educated Laker fans can mention the meat centers as something they'd be concerned with, it is the one position the Lakers should FULLY DOMINATE!

I could see saying the little princess, D-Wade, or Gasol not being able to contain Bosh, but Big-Z/Damps the biggest concern? Man, call me slow, but I just can't see it!

I quit on my teammates?

Kinda like how Kobe quit on his a few years back against Phoenix?

THE KING HAS SPOKEN
LONG LIVE THE KING AND HIS DYNASTY
FOR MY GOD IS A STERN GOD

So for all of those who thought that I was taking LakerTom's opinion
out of context/whatever .....

he wrote: As a long-time Lakers fan who now has personally seen 11 NBA championships, I find it ironic that any Lakers fan would be worried about a fantasy team comprised of players who only have one questionable title on their resume, a soft and weak front court, and major issues to resolve regarding who is going to have the ball. Any student of the game who understands how hard it is to win a championship should not disrespect the back-to-back champs. Worry about a genuine contender like Boston if you will, not a pretender like Miami.


So ... maybe y'all just read the first sentence and started skimming?


Then sentence *MOST* responsible for my post is:
I find it ironic that any Lakers fan would be worried about a fantasy team comprised of players who only have one questionable title on their resume, a soft and weak front court,

So ... LakerTom has referred to Big Z as soft and weak, indirectly, while not
acknowledging that Bynum has not done well against Big Z for the last
2 years. I say indirectly, because he didn't use his name specifically.

Does that clarify things?

We have talked about complacency as one of the dangers to 3-peating and
already we, as fans, are being complacent about a team with 3 excellent
players on it. A team with 4 members of team USA on it. That team
that one the Gold Medal in the Olympics two years ago.

Is there a reason to bad mouth someone else's front court when we have
Mr. Inconsistent [ Lamar Odom ] & a center who's been injured 3 years in
a row and will miss part/all of pre-season recovering from a surgery that
should take two weeks to recover from?


CyberComix,

you wrote: The thing is, I mostly didn't like that he was telling LakerTom to 'tone it down' when all he was saying was that the Laker bigs matched up well to the meat, and that Riley mistakenly went after Mike Miller with his MLE than a better center than what they got. Nothing to tone down there, wouldn't you agree?

my response: So you're telling me that calling the heat's front court
"soft and weak" == "the Lakers match up well with them" ?

Especially in light of the box score's which show that Bynum has not been
spectacular against Big Z? How about this one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300309013

Bosh actually faired better than Gasol.


re: mistakenly went after Mike Miller.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/articles/45201-the-sweetest-strokes-the-nbas-best-shooters

snippet: Mike Miller

Miller is another guy that made it to the NBA because of his amazing ability to put the ball in the hole. Miller, who was basically a stand-still shooter coming out of college can now put the ball on the floor before launching his beautiful jump shot right in the face of some opponent’s outstretched hands

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/phil-jackson-is-true-free-agent-prize-070210

snippet: His return vastly increases the chances of the Lakers being able to sign the free agents that they will need, i.e., a veteran point guard, a power center/forward, and a dependable scorer/shooter off the bench. The most desirable of these necessities include Steve Blake, Brendan Haywood and Mike Miller.

I'm not saying that we can't or won't beat the Miami Heat should we play
them in the finals. I'm saying that dismissing them out of hand is complacent
and foolish and could lead to failure.

G in DC(aka GDUB) - thanks for liking my posts. I was so full of cold medicine, I can barely remember writing them.

I am very curious how Phil positions the team this season, especially if it's his last. He may add a little something "special" to the mix.

G in DC,

"7 Grand Masters" has some amazing kung fu in it. Notice that there is no stunt double for Jack Long. He's the old man character that has to leave retirement and risk everyone's life by fighting the 7 grand masters because someone throws a note in his yard that says, "You're not champion. You suck!"

That has to be the best reason for a showdown ever.

But there's one shot where Jack does 2 or 3 flips and the camera doesn't cut away at the end. That never happens, because it's always a some stunt guy doing the flips in these action films. But you see the flips, then you see Jack Long -- close up -- in all of his cheesily glorious old man makeup.

The one complaint I have about this film is that they don't have itle cards introducing each champion. Tarentino would have some cool music and a "White Crane Style Champion" or some other identification to help the audience/plot along. There's nothing like that here, and unlike Chinese audiences, Americans can't identify the style of kung fu just by the first few moves and postures. At least I can't, with the exception of the monkey style champion. If someone starts scratching at fleas, he's usually using monkey style.

Enjoy! It's a real classic, though the main guy who follows Jack Long around and tries to join the clan has one of the worst haircuts you'll ever see in a kung fu film. It actually becomes a distraction at one point and does take away from the over all rating.

But not by much.

Enjoy,

Wes

Wes said: "Puddle,

You are cracking me up. I thought you were a 60 year old man."

Haha!! Puddle, I gotta admit, I also thought you were older, such the sage and funny blogster! I'm coming late to the party tonight but congrats on a fantastic profile.

****
LRob,

Nellie's out? I figured he'd at least get a couple months in before new ownership lowered the boom. The high-entertainment factor just took a hit up there. What else have I missed today? I'd better start speed-scrolling all the usual sites.

@63 Footer,

What brand of cold medicine is that? I might need to try some myself.(LOL)

Seriously tho', I think you may be right about PJ, I've been kinda anticipating him doing some things a little bit differently this season also, with this 'supposedly' being his 'last hurrah' and all. It'll be interesting to see if he surprises us by somehow mixing some new twists or wrinkles into his usual approach. Frankly, I'd kinda welcome it.


Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!!!

wes -

Druken Master was great...Jacky (jackie) Chan was so young...

I will keep an eye out for all of Woo-ping Yuen movies...

 
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