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Kobe mvp

Screen name: KobeMVP888

Occupation: Attorney

Age: 54

Gender: Male

Hometown: Originally, Harrington Park, N.J.; Currently, Trabuco Canyon, Calif.

Story behind your screen name: To blend with other Lakerholics in a different forum

How I became a Lakers fan: I started in following the NBA in 1967 or 1968. My first game was the 1968 All-Star Game at the old Madison Square Garden (the last year the Knicks played there). My dad got season tickets to the "new" Madison Square Garden and I became a rabid Knicks fan during their glory years when they had a rivalry with the Lakers, playing them in three NBA Finals. While I rooted for the Knicks, I had a healthy respect for the Lakers too. I was at the Willis Reed game! In 1978 I moved to California to go to law school. I was disgusted with the Knicks because of what they let happen to their franchise anyway, so when the Lakers drafted a certain Earvin "Magic" Johnson in 1979, that was it. I knew I was going to live in California and my conversion was complete. So I guess you can call me a 31-year bandwagoner!

Favorite all-time Lakers memory: Considering that I had the honor of attending Game 7 against the Chowds this year, what could be sweeter than that?

2009-2010 memory: Other than Game 7, Kobe's buzzer beater against the Heat, which was at my end of the court. The best part was that I suffered through the whole game with a Heat fan sitting to my left, and it took until 0:00 left on the clock for him to finally shut up! Also, watching the Lakers beat Boston in Boston during the regular season with five guys from another forum who I had never met was a very special treat. Ron Artest messing with Paul Pierce before the opening tip was classic, as was his flop down the stretch in the fourth quarter!

Most heartbreaking Lakers experience: 1) Hands down the buzz kill in the 2008 Finals when the Chowds came back from 24 points down, which I attended. 2) I also attended the Bulls' first championship in 1991 at the Great Western Forum. I didn't have season tickets back then but was invited to the game. The outcome was not unexpected, but was still a bummer.

Favorite Lakers player: Magic, Kobe (tie)

Greatest all-time Laker: I don't like this topic, but to me it's a three-way tie among Magic, Kobe and Jerry West. Kareem played with another team, as did Wilt, and Elgin Baylor never won a championship.

Last time you went to a game at Staples Center and at the Forum: Game 7 and I don't specifically recall my last game at the Forum, but I'm sure it was during the 1998-99 season. I feel very spoiled to have forgotten something like that.

Opposing team, player you dislike the most: Three-way tie: Pierce, KG and Perkins (the pulling guard of the Chowds). Basketball is not supposed to be Mixed Martial Arts but the Lakers have been forced to play that way against these thugs because the East Coast bias requires the refs to swallow their whistles on all the illegal screens that the Chowds set, etc. So if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

Interactions with Lakers players: None, other than running into AC Green a few times at the games and giving him the thumbs up, which he was gracious enough to return. Stu Lantz also goes out of his way to talk to fans, and I had a brief interlude with him once.

Most cherished piece of Lakers memorabilia I have: A knockoff T-shirt that was handed out for free outside Staples Center before Game 2, Round 2 of the 2008 playoffs against the Jazz when Kobe was awarded his MVP. It simply says: "Thank God for Kobe." Coincidentally, I wore that T-shirt at the Heat game this year and you can imagine the high-five's I got after the game!

Memorable stories about being a Lakers fan: 1) I will never forget the sea of Purple & Gold and the energy in the air outside Staples Center before Game 7 against the Chowds this year. It spanned across Chick Hearn Court to every bar at LA Live! I got there at 3 p.m. and there wasn't one seat available at the many bars at LA Live! Teaches me for getting there so late, huh? 2) Also, I had to be in New York during the 2009 Finals and it seemed like there wasn't one Lakers fan in the entire New York metropolitan area. I went to a Yankees-Mets game at the new Yankee Stadium wearing Lakers regalia and a Yankees hat. Yes, I'm still a Yankees fan. One rather obnoxious New Yorker came up to me and called it "sacrilegious." I called him a hypocrite. After all, how could he NOT respect a true dynasty?

-- Mark Medina

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Nice looking guy -

I find funny that New York transplants here in L.A. can still carry hate for the Dodgers leaving NYC. That they too have left NYC is lost upon them.

KobeMVP888,

I enjoyed your profile. I can only imagine how great it was to be at that game 7.

lol...on your comment about Perkins being the pulling guard. Him and KG get away with so many illegal picks...and don't get me started about how the Allens (Ray/Tony) are constantly put two hands on Kobe to slow him down.

Also thanks for the list of NBA books you posted.

Good stuff!

No pic? I like seeing my fellow bloggers.

Wes

Wow, long time, no see...I went to San Diego for my sister's wedding, the entire weekend. The little girl is not that little anymore, hehe.
Everything went beautiful and I'm a Magic "Happy" Phil! My sister is quite younger than me and we're very close, so I feel like brother/father sometimes and the joy to see the little girl you helped some many times is

now a married woman is AWESOME!


So many good posts from MM, very good job as usual.


I was surprised on Bynum's posts, no debate, nada. That's because I think the article was very well written, that's exactly what it is. Nobody can say Bynum is a bad player, nor a great player. He's been in this "limbo"

for too long, which raises frustration, that's all. Some are tired of waiting, some (like me) still think we should wait yet another season to see if he becomes the player we all see on him.


Hey Jon K., nice profile. We have in common the "Most heartbreaking Lakers experience". I'd like to add that we were WAY better team the the pistons....At the point that my step-father-best-bball-buddy-nice-celts-fan

called me and said: "You guys are gonna destroy the Pists". Well, we all know the aftermatch and I still can't understand what happened on that finals. Looks like we "dislearn" how to play...
Your "Memorable stories about being a Lakers fan" were VERY interesting...Now, Jon K, you know we all like you a lot here, so when you tell us your memorable stories about being a Lakers fan, please be safe! LOL!

The Russian Mob guy story was scary...LOL!


Then i saw my man LEWSTRS profile...Now, that was awesome! Although I'm a bit younger that you (just a bit), I think we can call ourselves the Showtime generation. I didn't see the NCAA finals with Magic x Bird

until later, but I got very excited w/ the rookie Magic in 1980, but could only follow a full season in 1985. But the most beautiful thing was the family day at Staples Center. Your family is beautiful, carry on...You're one

of my idols and you know why? Because of your family! My greatest challenge right now is to grow my kid the best way I can and you already have a nice family. I'm inspired, fellow Laker! Hope one day I'll get there!


KobeMVP888, how on earth did you make to the finals? Please tell me. Company tickets? Birthday present? HOW? It was so dam hard to get seats for the finals, I even beg to my CEO, how politely told me that he would give me the tickets if they ever had it... He felt my Lakers pain, but there was nothing he could do. He promissed me I'll get the next set of tickets for the upcoming finals, if he ever have it. I guess that's good enough, just need to wait. I'm, after all, glad that you were fully "converted" to a Lakerholic, that shows how wonderful it is to be a Laker fan.


Cheers.

"...how politely told me..."
means
"...who politely told me..."

MM and the Laker Bloggers, first I like to apologzie to Mamba24 for a inappropiate comment I made a couple of threads back. I enjoy coming onto your site from time to time reading your comments as you guy's cut up each other. I must admit, you can't find a bunch of homers anywhere on the net like this site. As much as I LOVE the Heats, the Lakers always my second choice. I hope that a troll can voice my opinion on this blog at times.
Sincerely,
Justa Hater

GO HEAT 2010-11 NBA CHAMPIONS

KobeMVP888 -

You seem to have been blessed with some amazing seats to some amazing games! Good on ya.

Your pride in representing the Lakers at the Yankees game was awesome! You're definitely a true Laker fan and I enjoy your insight on this blog. It's been good having you as an addition to this dysfunctional family.

What no Pic?
Jon K and Clay Matthew of the Packers look alike.

Great profile KobeMVP888 - from one transplanted New Yorker to another. Loved your recap of the Game 7 hoopla, what it must've been like to have been there and soaking it all in - lucky you! Love your posts - keep up the good work.

@KOBEMVP888… Great to learn more about you. I think you know how much I appreciate your support and well-reasoned posts defending Andrew Bynum. Unlike some posters, you know how to apply your basketball knowledge to reach defensible and credible conclusions and opinions.
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I remember those Knicks team very well. Wall-to-wall superstars. Clyde was Mr. GQ and a thief on the court. Bradley, Reed, Debusschere, Lucas, Monroe. They set the standard that long time Knicks fans helplessly and hopelessly recall. Probably the best passing team and teamwork ever.
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Here’s a question for you. As a California guy, I spent one year at NYU and played a lot of pick up ball at the school and local YMCA’s. Whenever we played half court, the defensive team was not required to clear the ball before shooting, meaning defensive rebounders could tip in misses to score points for their side. Everywhere I played in the Village, the rule was always the same, which to guards meant you better not shoot unless you are sure you’re going to make it. Crazy rule but it did improve shot selection. My question is was I in some form of basketball twilight zone or is that how everybody in New York plays? Thanks.
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TOM

Thanks MM and everyone else. Wes, I had no idea MM was going to honor me today. I just e-mailed him a pic, so hopefully he'll replace Kobe's photo so you all can blind your eyes with my ugly mug!

MagicPhil, I attend about 1/3 of the regular season games (season tix). I completely lucked into Game 7 because of the vacation schedule of one guy who was ahead of me in the pecking order. I went to Games 2 and 6 as well. My central nervous system was literally rattled to its core in Game 7, especially having previously experienced Game 4 in 2008. Truthfully, Game 6 was more "fun," but as Kobe said Game 7 was "the sweetest!"

This is a great forum. The wealth and depth of knowledge on every level is phenomenal. Let's have a great season!

Go Lakers! #17 coming up STRONG!!!

Team USA happy w/o LeBron? And how come Durant, Odom and AI can lead USA to gold, but Bosh, LeBron and Wade couldn't? I fear the Heat less and less every day.
From Hoopsworld:

"LeBron and the Heat Take On More Criticism

The day after LeBron James made the announcement that he was going to play for the Miami Heat, it quickly became clear that both he and his new team were going to be the villains of the NBA. A couple of months later, very little has changed. In fact, if anything LeBron and the Heat are even more hated than they were in July.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, for example, mentioned in an article about Team USA this morning that the group of players headed to the gold medal game today are actually glad that LeBron isn't part of the team.

"Privately they'll all tell you it's been a relief to have him tweeting from 5,000 miles away. This hasn't been the United States' most talented team, only the most pleasurable to be around," Wojnarowski wrote, adding, "No one misses LeBron barking at cafeteria workers to give him eggs or throwing his sweaty jersey on the floor and barking at officials to pick it up."

The article also goes on to criticize James for never putting himself in a situation to lead a team to any kind of championship. Even though the Miami Heat won't unequivocally be his team, this summer's Team USA group would've been. To take gold under his leadership would've been a checkmark in the right column for his consideration of the greatest players of all time.

While Wojnarowski's journalistic burn is pretty harsh, new Boston Celtics big man Jermaine O'Neal had similarly unflattering things to say about the situation in Miami, which he left this summer to play in Beantown.

"Those guys [in Miami] are all really good individual guys that are used to shooting 20 times a night just last year. These are all young guys," O'Neal told Julian Benbow of the Boston Globe.

"As good as individual players are, especially when I look at a situation like Miami, none of those guys had to really deal with sacrificing," O'Neal continued. "No mater hat you say or how you say it, they're still going to want the credit. But I know the Boston Celtics aren't about that."

In other words, add O'Neal and Wojnarowski to the growing list of people rooting against the success of the Miami Super-Friends. Comments like these certainly must fuel the competitive fires of James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh, but I suppose Heat is supposed to be hot."

Wes

Thanks MM for taking the time to post my pic as well. Much appreciated.

I have a question. Does the fact that USA's "B" Team won the World Championship offer proof that the Lakers have had to navigate through a more difficult NBA than people realize or, conversely, does it offer proof to the contrary?

Here’s a question for you. As a California guy, I spent one year at NYU and played a lot of pick up ball at the school and local YMCA’s. Whenever we played half court, the defensive team was not required to clear the ball before shooting, meaning defensive rebounders could tip in misses to score points for their side. Everywhere I played in the Village, the rule was always the same, which to guards meant you better not shoot unless you are sure you’re going to make it. Crazy rule but it did improve shot selection. My question is was I in some form of basketball twilight zone or is that how everybody in New York plays? Thanks.
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TOM
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I hated that rule! It just depended who you played against. Being from NJ, we usually abandoned that rule, but if we played games outside our "jurisdiction," you had to live with it. Pretty freakin' ridiculous, huh!?

KobeMVP888, you're a lucky guy! KEEP IT COMIN'!!!!!!
Cheers.

KB Blitz,

You wrote: And I still point my eyes towards the people who DIDN'T want to re-sign LO in the 2009 offseason. (Hobbit/Laker Tom). Usually I don't do this and I won't but to those whom I battled in the 09 off-season with either "I hope Josh Powell is working on his game or "The team is better without LO because Bynum will step up etc."

my response:

1st. I think you mean *roll* your eyes not "point" your eyes. Otherwise, what
does "point your eyes" actually mean?

2nd. If you're going to call me out then make sure you do it right and for the
right reason. You are mistaken that I didn't want to sign LO. I didn't want to
sign LO at the price he was asking nor did I want to sign LO as the starting
PF or SF or SG or Point-Forward. I repeatedly said: as the 6th man, I'm fine.

3rd. LO was signed at a -10% to the original offer because he thought of
himself much the way you think of him. Obviously Jerry Buss did not share
your opinion.

4th. LO was signed because PJ lobbied for his re-signing.

5th. If you're going to bring up the topic of LO and try to say how you were
right about him ... Then shouldn't you also indicate that you were wrong
about his lateral quickness? You were wrong about him being the starting
SF? etc. etc. etc.

Look. I admit that there have been a number of things that I was wrong on.
Josh Powell being one of them. There have also been a number of things
that I was right on. Such as Ariza at defensive SF. LO at PF as 6th man.

If you feel the need to *point/roll* your eyes at me for making mistakes, then
first go into your bathroom, look in the mirror, and *point/roll* your eyes at
yourself for all of errors that you've made.

I watched the Lions get robbed today. It was the worst call I've seen since the NFL gave the Pats that game against the Raiders. If someone doesn't think this is a touchdown let me know. Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLljlP3NlQM

In other words, add O'Neal and Wojnarowski to the growing list of people rooting against the success of the Miami Super-Friends. Comments like these certainly must fuel the competitive fires of James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh, but I suppose Heat is supposed to be hot."

Posted by: wes | September 12, 2010 at 06:51 PM

Wes - Jermaine has double incentive for disliking the Heat. He wasn't happy how things ended in Miami. And I don't think there was any love lost between him and Bosh during the brief time JO was in Toronto.

JO may want to look in the mirror. His 4pts/5reb and 20% shooting certainly didn't help the Heat this year in the playoffs.

I have a question. Does the fact that USA's "B" Team won the World Championship offer proof that the Lakers have had to navigate through a more difficult NBA than people realize or, conversely, does it offer proof to the contrary?

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 12, 2010 at 07:08 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your question. Please elaborate counselor....

Yes, your honorable counsel, it is an honor that you blog with us despite your busy workload. What is your legal specialty? Enjoyed your memories exchange with LRob, 63 footer and others of the Lakers yester years in great detail on players, stats and what exactly happened on that game. Luckily, LakerTom also found a good lawyer in representing the case of the Vanishing Drew against hobbit/blitz et al brain trust, at least you provided additional shock absorbers that holds backs LT's chassis. lol! Oh I also want to ask I'm sure you have a family, may we know who they are and how they're doing?

I watched the Lions get robbed today. It was the worst call I've seen since the NFL gave the Pats that game against the Raiders. If someone doesn't think this is a touchdown let me know. Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLljlP3NlQM

Posted by: LRob | September 12, 2010 at 07:34 PM
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Those guys can use the replay to change a call, right? So even after review, they think it's was not a complete pass?
I'm not a football fan, can't say I know everything, but after this call, I KNOW EVEN LESS THAN BEFORE!!!!!!
Not a touchdown? So what's a touchdown? I'm confused...

Justahater,

It is good that you finally realized your shortcomings and apologized to Mamba24. You are welcome to post here and give your views about the Heat, I think everybody wants to know your views since you're an avid Heat fan of the Trio Los Panchos. From time to time, there will stirring rebuke from the diehards and lakerholics which i presume you expect in this blog, however if you maintain civility like Sonnybelfast, Red, Lunatic people will come to conclusion that you are a decent Heat fan. The thing I don't understand from you and Old Hippy when you try to challenge, sow conflict, plant intrigues as if you want to conquer this blog with your challenges and contempt, then no mutual relationship is established. We will be like children try to disown each other. There has to be a happy medium established if you want a reciprocity and respect.

LRob

I'm not sure I understand it either. It has been a long time since Team USA won the Worlds. With the influx of stars from other countries in the NBA and with the sport becoming increasingly more popular and important in other countries, it seemed odd that we were able to defeat everyone with relative ease and with a very small team with players who (other than Durant) may not even earn a spot on the 2012 Olympic team. Granted, other countries, like Spain and Argentina, were missing their stars, too. Durant and Westbrook were clearly two of our better players and, as good as the Thunder appeared to be in the playoffs, perhaps they were even better than we realized compared to teams from earlier in this century. Maybe the Suns were, too. And the Chowds.

So either the NBA, which is still dominated by Americans for the most part, is so rich in talent that these Lakers championship teams are underrated for who they had to navigate through or, conversely, they have lucked into an era where the world's talent pool has been diluted. Maybe one thing has nothing to do with the other.

When I hear people talk about the great teams of the 90's, I can't point to any real special, deep teams outside of the Bulls. To my eyes, Kobe & Company have had to navigate through much tougher talent than they are given credit for these past two seasons.

I can just see the argument going either way. Does that make any sense?

Team USA would not trade Lamar for Luol Deng.

Just sayin.

KobeMVP- um…maybe? It offers proof that Lamar Odom kicks ‘ociation,’ that I can attest.

Mage- nope, ‘point your eyes’ pretty much makes sense. I would have gone with [stares heavily, stops, starts laughing, starts rolling on the ground laughing, pointing at the guys who wanted to trade/cut/not re sign LO, stop to make ‘help me’ gestures, pound on the ground helplessly, point again at the guys who wanted to trade/cut/not re sign LO, pause to wipe spit from mouth…

Well, you get the idea. The main point of Blitz’s comment did not, believe it or not, have anything to do with pointing, rolling, or any other eye related activity. It was about y’alls judgment, which took some serious whacks on the whole ‘how important is LO issue.’

Ok, fine. Point 4) “LO was signed cause PJ lobbied for his re signing’ Ok, does that support or not support your main point, which was…um, either ‘A) I wanted to re sign LO’ (sort of) or ‘B) roll eyes’ v. ‘point eyes.’

Ok, let me make my main 1), not eye movement related point; Blitz- Hate the comment, not the commentor. You’ve been wrong before, other people have been wrong before, move on. Mage- Stop freakin arguing. We don’t all have a mental tally that reads ‘LakerTom- 4 out of 23, Blitz, 3 out of 12, hobbitmage 2-14’

WE DON’T FREAKIN CARE!

THE LOVE MODERATES ALL OF pHRED’S COMMENTS

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

In case anyone thinks I’ve been carrying Blitz’s jock too much lately (I kind of have. What’s up with that?), I would like to point out that neither of the ‘eye’ metaphors really made all that much sense.

But they both made pretty much the same amount of sense.

Which puts them at least equal to phred on the 'sense making' thing.

I'm really not liking the NFL late. Really reminds me too much of short track speed skating. Mistakes, falls, injuries, penalties and bad officiating seem to be the difference makers.

Does anyone know if Caracter made the weight? I've asked this several times this weekend. We were told that he would be paid the rest of his contract if he weighed in at 275 by this past Friday. Anyone know?

Oh I also want to ask I'm sure you have a family, may we know who they are and how they're doing?

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 12, 2010 at 08:00 PM
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Thanks for asking. My 24th anniversary is on the 26th! I have two sons, 23 and 21, bother huge Lakers fans. The 23 year old just git his BFA in Production Animation and is looking for work in So Cal as an entry level animator and the other guy is a senior at SFSU. He writes novels and poetry, but wants to go to law school. I'm a plaintiff's PI attorney and I also have an advanced degree in Taxation Law and do a lot of tax controversy/tax litigation as well. I've been practicing law for 29 years.

phred,

you wrote: We don’t all have a mental tally that reads ‘LakerTom- 4 out of 23, Blitz, 3 out of 12, hobbitmage 2-14’

my response: Obviously, that's not correct.

ex: KB Blitz and the LO thing.

ex. KobeMVP888

ex. LakerTom

you also wrote: It was about y’alls judgment, which took some serious whacks on the whole ‘how important is LO issue.’

my response: Hmm ... Didn't I argue that LO was great as a 6th man?
Isn't LO the sixth man? Didn't LO get less than he asked for? Didn't I
suggest that LO was worth less than he asked for?

So ... It would seem that I did *NOT* take some serious whacks on how
important LO was. I did take whacks on how good Josh Powell could/would
be.

So, as two time defending champions may I make a suggestion:

Can we just go forward?

Aloha Everyone,

After watching Durant lead USA to the gold I began to think that Durnat may win a ring long before the 3 myEgo's down in Miami. While I clearly believe that the Lakers will 3 peat, after next season all bets are off. By that time Durant will clearly be the best player and their young team will be maturing. First they have built a team the right way, with balance. 2nd they have a deep bench. They have so much young talent that they could easily package some of it to add a player that could put them over the top.

However I do have faith in Mitch and I believe that he will continue to add the pieces we need to compete. But lets face it, at some point whether its after a 3 or a 4 peat, the Lakers will stumble and I am hoping it's the Thunder that continues to shut Miami out.

MH

Mage- Heck yeah, let’s go forward. For the record, I think that in their minds, Blitz’s tally is roughly 12-0, LakerTom’s is about 2-2, and phred’s is well… I’ve been right at least three times.

hmage- what is yours?

See, I would argue that LO is worth what he asked for. At least, you could argue that we don’t really know, since we don’t know how to quantify A FREAKIN CHAMPIONSHIP!

And if you really want to run that whole ‘LO is great sixth man’ thing, please at least look up how many games LO started last year.

Or how many minutes LO played last year. Heck, to be honest, I don’t remember what your position was on re signing LO, but was your position seriously anti Drew and anti LO? Who did you want to play PF/C?

Does anyone know if Caracter made the weight? I've asked this several times this weekend. We were told that he would be paid the rest of his contract if he weighed in at 275 by this past Friday. Anyone know?

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | September 12, 2010 at 09:08 PM

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According to NBA.com, Derrick weighs 265.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/derrick_caracter/

MM,

Come on, coming from a clan of lawyers (grandfather, mother. sister and about a dozen first degree relatives) that was funny.

KobeMVP888,

Yes that's makes sense.

I thought you were partially alluding to Durant and Westbrook. Yes, I agree that the Lakers didn't get enough credit for having to face a difficult challenge like that in the first round. I do think that tough series helped elevate Durant's resolve and Westbrook's confidence.

I don't follow the international competition nearly as closely as I do the NBA. However, I did notice Dirk, Yao, as well as many players from Spain & Argentina like you mentioned, did not participate. Therefore, I wouldn't really compare this tournament to the Olympics. But overall the current international players are better than those in the 90's and 00's.

I agree with you that the Bulls didn't beat any great teams in their two 3peats. I thought Portland was the best team they beat, but they weren't the smartest team in the world.

The 2010 finals was the first time two champions had met in the finals since Boston-LA in the 80's. So, yes I believe Boston was better than any of the teams the Bulls played in the finals.

Does anyone know if Caracter made the weight? I've asked this several times this weekend. We were told that he would be paid the rest of his contract if he weighed in at 275 by this past Friday. Anyone know?

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | September 12, 2010 at 09:08 PM

Hey Nemaia - I've seen you post this a few times and I wish I can help, but I haven't heard anything on this. Maybe MM can address it tomorrow.

"(True both you guys wanted LO to sign but would have NO problem letting LO go to Miami. "

Hey Hobbit how are things?

re: Read that quote. I did not say that you "didn't want to re-sign LO". You wanted him to re-sign at the discount price. That being said I still remember the "I would have been fine with Bynum instead of LO" and "I would have been fine with Powell" at back up PF.

The fact that PJ wanted LO to be re-signed only signified how important he was to the Lakers offense aside from rebounds such as running the offense and assume a guard-like role and allows Kobe Bryant to play a forward role and post up more/slash instead of staying on the perimeter and give him an urge to jack up a contested three.

Was I wrong about LO as SF? Yes. That being said I was just reminding how you and Laker Tom were so inclined to let LO go even though your reasoning was about the salary while Laker Tom's reasoning was to let his boy Bynum get an assurance of more minutes.

Last season proved how much LO was valuable especially when Bynum and Gasol missed time with injury.
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"When I hear people talk about the great teams of the 90's, I can't point to any real special, deep teams outside of the Bulls. "

Eastern Conference:
Reggie Miller's Pacers
Patrick Ewing's Knicks
Alonzo Mourning's Heat AND Charlotte Hornets (with Glen Rice in his prime)
Grant Hill's Pistons
Shaq and Penny's Magic

Western Conference
Barkley/Majarle/KJ's Suns
Robinsons's Spurs
Olajuwon's Rockets
Drexler's Trailblazers
Stockton/Malone's Jazz
Run TMC (Tim Hardaway/Mitch Richmond/Chris Mullin)'s Golden State Warriors
Payton's and Kemps's Supersonics.

Plenty of talent in the 90's.

However I do have faith in Mitch and I believe that he will continue to add the pieces we need to compete. But lets face it, at some point whether its after a 3 or a 4 peat, the Lakers will stumble and I am hoping it's the Thunder that continues to shut Miami out.
Posted by: michael H | September 12, 2010 at 09:24 PM
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Aloha Michael H,

I think all of us are with you in hoping ABM (Anybody But Miami) win if the Lakers should happen to fall short in up coming seasons. Let me also add ABB to that list.

But I must admit Miami will be very tough in 2012 when they have time to add another mid-level player to their roster. I would give them the edge over OKC.

Not a touchdown? So what's a touchdown? I'm confused...
Posted by: Magic Phil | September 12, 2010 at 08:12 PM
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Don't worry MagicPhil...we're all confused after that call...lol.

Question: What is the defense for the pick 'n roll? What is the response to this defense?

Does anyone think the Lakers will ever learn to defend the pick 'n roll?

okies we need another name for the Miami Heat than "Cheat" or "Meat". Too lame in my opinion. It's just as lame as "Fakers".

My suggestion: NWO for those who watched WCW and who still watch wrestling.

For those who can remember the 90's the Heat trio perfectly match Hollywood Hogan, Scott Hall, and Kevin Nash.

Kevin Nash-Chris Bosh. Big dude of the trio.
Scott Hall-Chico dude from Miami represents Wade and works considering Wade played in Miami his entire NBA career.
Hollywood Hogan-LBJ like Hogan was a supposed face that turned heel big time.

Just my suggestion but considering how the NWO is very similar to the Heat trio it's not a bad suggestion

(I was more tuned though to WWF/WWE than WCW).

888 -

Hope you get as many tickets this year...and yes we require a post game recap, to get the full effect...Loved the T-shirt...

Magic Phil -

Thanks for the kind words...But I am certain you will be a wonderful husband, and an incredible father...your family will grow, and through your leadership and guidance will blossom into golden memories and happiness...

You know why I am so confident...Because your heart is in the right place...God bless you and your family...

hook it up with some tickets kobemvp888! Anyway, did anyone catch Spero Dedes calling the Browns game today?

What happend with a Spaniard blogger??????

does anyone else wonder how ABC/ESPN are gonna bleep out a crowd of 19,000 people repeatedly chanting "Beat The Meat!" on Christmas Day? Unintentional Comedy at its best....

KB Blitz,

Of those 90's teams I would categorize as follows:

Great - Rockets
Very Good - Indiana, NY, Blazers, Utah, Phoe
No threat to Bulls - Miami, Seattle, Orlando, SA
Not worthy of mention - Pistons, Charlotte, GS

I would rate the Garnett/Pierce/Allen Celtics over all of those teams.

KB Blitz -

"okies we need another name for the Miami Heat than "Cheat" or "Meat". Too lame in my opinion. It's just as lame as "Fakers"."
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KB,

I agree that is just as lame as those who use the term Fakers for the Lakers.
Hows about just refer to them as the Heat, or Miami and use the Celtics when referring to the Celtics, etc etc.
I know it's kind of a revolutionary idea but it could work.
And maybe we could represent ourselves as a notch above those who come here and use the lame terms like Fakers for the Lakers.

And if you really want to go out on a ledge or get radical, we could even refer to Labron as Labron (or James) and Pierce as Pierce etc, etc.

kobemvp888
" I called him a hypocrite. After all, how could he NOT respect a true dynasty?"

Same thought occurred to me when I was hating on soccer's dynasty in the english premier league, manchester united. Now i give them props on the inside but hate on them outwardly just to get under my roomy's skin.

Here's to the laker dynasty steam rolling through the league for years to come ... miami, boston, or the young kidz from okc ... don't matter who, we'll take down all challengers ... if u think game 7 against boston is the best show the best show on earth aka black mamba can put on, u ain't been paying attention ...

24 + 16 +[3|1]7 = The Purple Tinted Golden Age

And oh will y'all pls stop arguing about LO ... I keep telling y'all the answer lies in the equation which has Kobe leading, Gasol holding down the post, and Odom, Artest or Bynum having a big game ... and umm Fish really should be in there somewhere, but I guess he's the magical part of the equation ... u can't script his speeches or .4 ... some ish just ain't meant to be mathematical

And oh did I mention I was having a lousy day ... bank acct not looking great ... current chick ain't great in bed ... side chick found out about current chick and ain't picking up my calls ... and then i heard LO dropped 15 and 11 ... and i'm just yeah men, we getting ready to put the league on blast ... 3peat baby

Screen name: Ricky

Occupation: Spaniard Lawyer

Age: 45

Gender: Male

Hometown: Barcelona, Catalonia (Spain)

Story behind his screen name: I love Ricky Rubio´s game.

How I become Laker Fan: I´m the Magic Johnsonn bigger fan

Favorite all time Lakers memory: When Pau Gasol signed with the Lakers

2009-2010 memory: KG debacle. He is one of my favorites players.

Most heartbreaking Lakers experience: When Pau cry for his 2 championship in a row.

Last time you went to a game at Staples Center and at the Forum: Never, I live in Barcelona and is not easy for me be a Laker fan.

Favorites Laker player: Pau, Magic, Wilt.

Greatest all-time Laker: Pau Gasol

Opposing team, player you dislike the most: Detroit Pistons, Isaiah Thomas and Vinnie "microwaves" Johnson. Billy Lambier, too.

Interactions with Lakers players: None.

Testing 1..2...3

Wow, I missed the entire weekend on the blog and had to do a lot of catching up. Outstanding profiles! Didn't know we had so many good lookin' people spending so much time in cyberspace. Everyone's profiles have been very entertaining. Great idea MM!

As far a FIBA goes, I've kept away from sports channels and pages so I can watch the replay this morning (ESPN3) and still be entertained. Everyone have an excellent morning!

JR

The BBVA Group and the National Basketball Association today announced a new multi-year marketing partnership that will highlight the bank's financial products and services to the league's broad and passionate fanbase. As part of the partnership, BBVA will serve as the Official Bank of the NBA, the Women's National Basketball Association, and the NBA Development League in the United States, Spain and Puerto Rico.

Hey Medina, My country is a little country around the world, but may be is not so little to erase and censure my post, what you think????????

"When I hear people talk about the great teams of the 90's, I can't point to any real special, deep teams outside of the Bulls. "

Eastern Conference:
Reggie Miller's Pacers
Patrick Ewing's Knicks
Alonzo Mourning's Heat AND Charlotte Hornets (with Glen Rice in his prime)
Grant Hill's Pistons
Shaq and Penny's Magic

Western Conference
Barkley/Majarle/KJ's Suns
Robinsons's Spurs
Olajuwon's Rockets
Drexler's Trailblazers
Stockton/Malone's Jazz
Run TMC (Tim Hardaway/Mitch Richmond/Chris Mullin)'s Golden State Warriors
Payton's and Kemps's Supersonics.

Plenty of talent in the 90's.

Posted by: KBBlitz | September 12, 2010 at 10:33 PM
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Talent, but NOT depth and certainly not special teams besides the Bulls, especially in the watered down East. The Bulls never faced teams in the NBA Finals like the Showtime Lakers faced and they navigated through Swiss Cheese in the East to get there. They defeated the injured and transforming 1991 Lakers who were a disappointing remnant of their former selves, the 1992 Drexler-Kersey-Porter Blazers, the 1993 Barkley-KJ-Majerle Suns (lots of talent, but no defense), the 1996 Payton-Kemp-Shrempf Sonics (probably the best of the lot, but never a champion), and the 1997 and 1998 Stockton-Malone Jazz who should have beaten the Bulls, but failed. They never won a ring and can hardly be considered a great team.

On the other hand, Magic's Lakers lost to 4 teams who have been listed among the all-time greatest NBA teams: the 1983 76ers, the 1984 Chowds, the 1989 Pistons and the 1991 Bulls.

Fast forward and the Shaq-Kobe Lakers lost to jokes in the NBA Finals, but the teams they defeated in the Western Conference were far superior to the teams that Jordan's Bulls navigated through. The Spurs alone were better than any team in the NBA during Jordan's years. The question is where do today's teams rank in an era where the center position is watered down and the point guard position rules? How do teams like today's Lakers, Chowds, Magic, Cavs, Thunder, Nuggets, Suns, Spurs, etc. compare to those 90's teams or even the 80's teams?

Gotta run. Have a great day!

O.K., we can be friends, good friends. This blog need a international point of view and Spain is the first Europe BB country, but we can´t write english so well. Sorry.

Ricky,

You should send your own profile directly to Mark Medina so it can have it's own post. Several people would not notice that previous post you placed.

spelling correction above: [its] own post.

Anyway, I didn't know about Lebron yelling for eggs. If it's true, I wonder how did people know about his habits? Did these actions occur during the last international play?

888; With a healthy James Worthy, the '91 finals is a different story.

Hows about just refer to them as the Heat, or Miami and use the Celtics when referring to the Celtics, etc etc.
I know it's kind of a revolutionary idea but it could work.
And maybe we could represent ourselves as a notch above those who come here and use the lame terms like Fakers for the Lakers.
Posted by: Art - FL Lakers Fan | September 13, 2010 at 07:08 AM

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Art what an fresh innovative approach. I'm with you...lol.

Art; Perfecto!!!!!!!!

After all - there is no dishonor is acquiring free agents, yes? I'm enjoying the re-shuffling of talent and the emergence of new powers. We did it, and I'm with all of you who would like us to bid on the sharpshooter from OKC when he becomes available.

@KobeMVP888:

Great profile. I think being a Nick fan first makes you even more of a "true" Lakers fan because this in the franchise you chose to follow, instead of being Grandfathered in.

Plus, you stayed strong through our "lean" years. There must have been temptations to move to "other" dynasties in that time period. Like the Bulls, for instance. But, you stayed true.

Glad to have met you!
--FEARless

Im from upstate new york and after reading this i have hope to one day shake loose from the grip the buffalo bills have me in. I gotta run now I have to find out if my job will relocate me to an area where they win football games.

www.thanewsstand.blogspot.com
(twitter) @ thanewsstand

Another totally unexpected face to match a writing and make it even more brilliant to my agenda.

Beautiful profile, amazing writing that let me share and "see" properly all that you've detailed there KobeMVP888.

I am particularly fond of people who can find their light on the Road to Damascus and get blinded by Lakers glory.

I loved the way you defended your belief and I adored to feel your same joy in your ost treasured Lakers moment(s).

That t-shirt is amazing...

It's a pleasure to "meet you" too.

May this incoming season grow your (and our) happy memories and let the dust collecting over the "Bad Box" stuff.

We're too cool to suffer too soon, right?

Excellent profile, cheers, Z. :)

Wow, so you're a Lakers and Yankees fan? That's a pretty absurd combination and one I could have easily adopted if I were a front-runner like you. I'm from LA and currently live in NYC. I will never give up on the Dodgers no matter how bad they are.

Regardless, happy to have you on board as a Lakers fan. Just don't wear a Yankees hat at Lakers game like Denzel; it's just tacky.

KobeMVP888,
Great profile and glad you are a Laker Fan and not a Knicks fan.


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