How long does it take you to move on from a Lakers championship season?
This isn't a foreign concept to me. I know how the sports world operates. And I'm aware that everything that happens in life seems so fleeting and temporary.
It struck me, however, seeing how quickly everything unraveled after the Lakers won the 2010 championship. I witnessed first-hand the Game 7 excitement, the locker room champagne baths and of course, Ron Artest's unforgettable press conference. Days followed with the Lakers' championship parade, post-title parties and exit interviews. It all happened so quickly within that week-long stretch that there really wasn't much time to think about and process everything that happened.
Once the NBA draft and free agency began, the business approach crept back. Everything I covered involving the Lakers immediately shifted from reflective and celebratory events to ones involving the future. That's how sports works. And the fact that the Lakers immediately shifted gears so quickly reflects the mark of a well-run organization.
But I'm wondering what the process entails for a Lakers fan. How long do you soak in the taste of victory? How long do you relish the journey that resulted in a Lakers championship? When do you feel it's time to move on? I'm sure the answers will vary as it does with the Lakers' roster. For example, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum immediately went into rest mode. Lamar Odom quickly shifted gears to USA basketball. Derek Fisher and Shannon Brown focused on their financial future with free agency. Phil Jackson measured his health and stamina. And Artest? Well, he's probably still celebrating.
There's only a few days left before Saturday, so I thought it'd be good to get this feedback before everyone wants to completely move on from the 2009-2010 title run.
-- Mark Medina
E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com
Photo: Bryan Fisher of Corona, center, and others Lakers fans watch Game 7 of the NBA Finals at the ESPN Zone in downtown Los Angeles. Credit: Gary Friedman / Los Angeles Times.
i carry on all the time,in to the next lakers game...
Posted by: kurilaker | September 20, 2010 at 01:16 PM
with a championship, the feeling last a lot longer. this last one, however was a treat for any laker fan. imagine, coming from behind to beat "them" in the 7th game. this is going to taste sweet for a little while longer
Posted by: lance from da' bronx | September 20, 2010 at 01:23 PM
As a Laker fan, I feel very spoiled. We make the playoffs just about every year and anything short of a title is a disappointment. Those expectations are only elevated following a title; and after back to back.....forget about it!
Since the final's loss to the Cs, the past two seasons have been a whirlwind. There was nothing greater than this game 7 win. The title high last a couple weeks or so; but by the time the exit interviews are carried out, I feel the anxiety building towards next season....
This year's free agency simply added fuel to the fire....
Posted by: Kobe Kalifornias Finest | September 20, 2010 at 01:24 PM
What's up, Lakerville!
For me, I'd soak up the championship and bask in it until I finish watching the video and reading all the commemorative magazines and books. By the start of the next season, I've moved on but I still feel smug with having bragging rights at least for the whole new season.
Posted by: SamLL | September 20, 2010 at 01:25 PM
MM-Still celebrating, will be till the opening tip of the regular season.
LT-you're right, disappointed is too weak to describe the feeling. Mor like crushed maybe? All I know is I've been waiting a long time for the Ninets to get back to glory! There's no way for me to dream about a trifecta like you as my Dodgers are in disarray, but I can still dream about 2 out of 3. On that note, since my team is not in it, good luck on you're Yankees (even though I don't like them).
As for PJ, someone mentioned that he might take a consultant role ala Tex. I've been thinking (hoping?) along those lines for a while now. I think as long as we retain the triangle offense (which this team is built perfectly for) he will be invited to take that role. If JB holds to what he wants (returning to some form of showtime) PJ will be gone. If Shaw is our next coach, look for PJ to remain with the team (at least I hope so).
Posted by: Troy B | September 20, 2010 at 01:28 PM
lance from da' bronx,
Your "come from behind" comment reminded me of a Phil quote from a Janice Carr article - "'The pressure is all on you. That gives you that anticipation that you gotta play not to lose. Don't do it that way. Go out there and seize it,' said Phil Jackson, who sticks to that philosophy in his coaching." And that timeout where they showed Doc Rivers telling the Celts to get the title if they want it (they were still leading at that time). Well, the Celtics played not to lose. It turns out that the Lakers wanted it more and went out and grabbed the championship. Oh, happy day!
Posted by: SamLL | September 20, 2010 at 01:32 PM
As I sit here typing this reply I am wearing my favorite Kobe shirt - to my right is two Championship Wheaties boxes on my shelf. It goes on... From my shoes to my keychains... I am proud to represent The Lake Show almost daily. I will be basking in the Back to Back greatness until they pry our cold dead fingers away from around our three-peat mythical trophy. I completely expect to see you all again next year for a huge celebration... but this one will be EXTRA THREE-PEAT SWEET!
Posted by: Dan Parks | September 20, 2010 at 01:33 PM
I work with numbers. So, I will "move on from this" in another 98 games, give or take.
Cheers - PLG
Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | September 20, 2010 at 01:49 PM
For me, the euphoria lasted about two weeks. The onset of free agency (on July 1st) always manages to re-ground me, especially this past offseason, what with all the question marks surrounding the Lakers (Phil, Fish, Farmar, Shannon, etc...), and the developing stories in Miami, Boston, etc.
That said, gotta love the way the summer went. I cannot honestly recall a time when I've felt this good about the coming season, all things considered. A better blog question may be: Is this the best you've ever felt about the team heading into a new season?
Posted by: Jefe101 | September 20, 2010 at 01:52 PM
Actually, we are the Champions until we aren't! Still going strong!
Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | September 20, 2010 at 01:56 PM
For me, Mark, I celebrate the championship for about a week. From the champagne on the night the championship is won to buying the shirt and hat the followingt day to watching the parade, checking out the exit interviews and reading as much online material about the championship that I can, that's my celebration process and it usually goes for a week. Then, it's on to free agency. From there, it's the big question, "Can the Lakers do it again?" and it becomes about the next one. Because, as any true Laker fan will tell you, it never gets old. Have a good day.
Posted by: Steve | September 20, 2010 at 01:57 PM
I relish and relive the playoff run until the ring ceremony!!! This year NBA TV is right there with me, replaying the playoff games all summer.
Posted by: Janice | September 20, 2010 at 01:59 PM
I work with numbers. So, I will "move on from this" in another 98 games, give or take.
Cheers - PLG
Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | September 20, 2010 at 01:49 PM
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I savor them as well. We are spoiled rotten and, until someone beats us in the playoffs, we're the defending champions. As we witnessed last season, this championship team is quite capable of flipping the switch after having many of us wondering if they had in them to repeat. As frustrating as certain portions of the practice season can get, never forget to hold your head high because there are fans who root for 29 other teams who can't say that their teams are the champs. Enjoy the present, but savor the BLING!
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 20, 2010 at 02:03 PM
In the past, especially the early-decade dominance of those Shaq/Kobe teams, each championship increased my Laker intake of all things purple and gold in that off-season.
A championship is always savored, especially the bragging rights that one brings along with it, but normally I start to transition to the next season after the first exhibition game, when we finally have something to sink our teeth into after the long summer months. After a few exhibition games the build-up for the season opener really starts to build, that is when I start to really look ahead.
Being a big hoops fan, I watch a lot of games from around the league, especially the great TNT coverage, NBA TV Game Time Live too, and after the first week of non-stop basketball buffet, that is when I'm full-bore into the new season.
Long-winded way to say it's about the first week of the season that I have fully 'moved on' lol
As far as this one particularly, the '10 title, we are probably moving on quicker than others because the Lakers have a darn good team that just got better, so it's easy to look ahead and be greedy. We're probably mid-dynasty, so this last championship might be overlooked and probably won't be as savored than the win to start it off, in '09, and the last of this run - whenever that is (we can all concur this past title won't be the last, don't we?).
GO LAKERS!!!!!
Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 02:06 PM
It seemed like this year the media never gave the Lakers the chance to basque in the spotlight. The focus moved almost instantly from game 7 to free agency.
For Laker fans I think the championship celebration is always sweet but since we are so used to winning I don't think the success takes as big a toll as say New Orleans fans and the recent Super Bowl victory. They will cherish the past season for years and years to come. Laker fans, however, are just antsy for the next season to start because the expectations are so high.
I, myself, get caught up in the expectations as well. We should all cherish these moments a lot more than we do but in the words of Jay-Z "On the the next one".
Posted by: KeepNtheFaith | September 20, 2010 at 02:07 PM
I'm a Lakerholic. I'm still celebrating the 2000 win!! Are you kidding? We are the Freakin LA Lakers Nation!!! We never stop celebrating cause we always win. No matter the year, no matter the decade look around and the Freakin Lakers will be in the Finals. So I have been a Lakers Fan for 25 years and I have been celebrating non-stop for 25 years!!!!...NO LIE!!!!
Posted by: MAMAB24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:08 PM
Posted by: MAMAB24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:09 PM
KobeMVP888: "Enjoy the present, but savor the BLING!"
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ROFL, sounds like a hip-hop version of a Phil Jackson philosophy. That's awesome, lol!
If I may, I'd nominate that line for inclusion to Mamba24's roll call!
GO LAKERS!!!!!
ok, been playin' on here all too long, off to run some chores. cya lata laka luva's!
Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 02:13 PM
5 MORE DAYS!!!! WHOO-HOOO!!!!!!!!!
GO LAKERS!!!!!
Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 02:14 PM
KobeMVP888: "Enjoy the present, but savor the BLING!"
ROFL, sounds like a hip-hop version of a Phil Jackson philosophy. That's awesome, lol!If I may, I'd nominate that line for inclusion to Mamba24's roll call! Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 02:13 PM
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SO SAY WE ALL!!
LET IT BE SAID LET IT BE WRITTEN LET IT BE DONE!
Posted by: MAMAB24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Well, I was gone this weekend in Yosemite and unfortunately, I missed four fantastic Lakerblog blogger profiles!
Mister Ed -
I am far too young to remember Elgin Baylor, but from all I've read about him, it just seems so wrong that he retires RIGHT BEFORE the Lakers roll off 33 straight and win the championship. If Chick says Elgin was the best he ever saw, then who am I to say otherwise? Tragic he didn't win at least one.
Anyway, loved the profile. Hope to see you posting around here more often!
LakerTom -
I felt like I kind of already knew you by reading all your posts through the years, but it was great to see the pictures of your family. You're a legend here on this blog and it was great to have a look "behind the curtain" so to speak.
TNTLakerFan -
Um, are you my long lost twin? Your profile is eerily similar to mine and I found myself nodding through the whole thing. That Anthony Peeler story was epic. I wish I was good enough to hop in some pickup games like that! Mad props for being a dedicated Laker fan all the way out in KC. How did you manage to get to a game at Staples in 2009?
PLG -
Great profile. I'm jealous you got to experience the glory years of the 80's with both the Dodgers and Lakers. I'm a tortured Dodger fan who has yet to experience a World Series in my lifetime (I was 4 in 1988 so that doesn't count). Under current ownership, I'm not expecting a WS team here any time soon. But it just makes me more grateful that the Lakers are owned by the great Dr. Buss and his family!
Posted by: puddle | September 20, 2010 at 02:20 PM
It just continues on and on.. and on. This is why three peat is so special because I do not want to stop the feeling of greatness. Until someone dethrones the Lakers that's when it all stops. Until then I am enjoying it.
Let's go for five straight.
2 down 3 more to go. Why not, we got all the tools. The roster is the best since the 80's.
Just somebody has to watch that Durant guy, he could spoil it for us one day, I hope not soon. What he did in TEAM USA is very reminisent of that guy from the old Chicago Bulls of the 90's. He separated himself from every competitor including his own all-star TEAM USA teammates. Just saying watch out for him.
Kobe Bryant will pass Kevin Durant the NBA torch one day.
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:39 PM
KobeMVP888: "Enjoy the present, but savor the BLING!"
ROFL, sounds like a hip-hop version of a Phil Jackson philosophy. That's awesome, lol!If I may, I'd nominate that line for inclusion to Mamba24's roll call! Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 02:13 PM
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SO SAY WE ALL!!
LET IT BE SAID LET IT BE WRITTEN LET IT BE DONE!
Posted by: MAMAB24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:16 PM
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You guys are too flattering. It kinda just kind of naturally rolled off the finger tips because I make it a point to keep perspective throughout the long practice season. We still BE da champs, baybee!! Back-to-back!!!
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 20, 2010 at 02:41 PM
Interesting responses. I guess this is part of a symptom of you guys being a Lakerholic but here's what I find so compelling about sports. There is this anticipation, ebbs and flow, frustrations, doubt, anger, happiness, that spill out during the entire course of the season because of that effort to get a championship. When it happens there is pure joy and extasy, but how long does it last? It seemed like in this corner of the woods, until the Draft started. For players, it seemed like it last mostly through exit interviews sans players who were free agents. I will ask players this question mainly because I am sort of curious in the psychology of it all. When players retire though, I imagine they get more reflective and look back on it than when it's actually happening.
MM
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 02:42 PM
Also, just a reminder. We're going to have a chat at 4. Figured it'd be a helpful way to kill time as you're trying to count down the hour or two before work ends.
MM
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 02:43 PM
KOBEMVP888,
"Bynum & Sasha for 'Melo. It works salary-wise.
Who would do it? Who wouldn't do it?"
I would. Also, I would not.
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:45 PM
KOBEMVP888,
"Bynum & Sasha for 'Melo. It works salary-wise.
Who would do it? Who wouldn't do it?"
I would. Also, I would not.
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:45 PM
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In other words, you would defer to Mitch Kupchak?
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 20, 2010 at 02:48 PM
Also, just a reminder. We're going to have a chat at 4. Figured it'd be a helpful way to kill time as you're trying to count down the hour or two before work ends. MM Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 02:43 PM
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I got news for you MM, work ended for most of Laker Nation when they walked in the office door. You don't seriously think they have time for work when they could be on the Lakers Blog! Lol!
Posted by: mamba24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:51 PM
KobeMVP888,
"Bynum & Sasha for 'Melo. It works salary-wise.
Who would do it? Who wouldn't do it?"
I would love for Carmelo Anthony to go East and join an elite team. Let them fight it out who is deserving to meet the mighty Los Angeles Lakers.
I would like to see him in Bulls or Knicks uniform. That will pissed of the Meat and Septics. Nice!
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:53 PM
Splitter - Bynum
Duncan - Gasol
Jefferson - Artest
Ginobili - Kobe
Parker - Fisher
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:56 PM
Adopting PJ's mentality, I savor the victory for less than 2 weeks before eyeing what's in front of me... and what's in front of me is the present and future.
However, the titles, once accumulated, are like permanent pieces of wealth that I carry around in my back pocket. This one will never go away, nor will any of the last 9... I recall, remember, and use their memory when a boost of inspiration is needed. But, what happened yesterday is far less important than what is happening today - and what will happen tomorrow.
Once that ring ceremony is over, we can begin to focus on the true challenges of our days... this will include finding a way to overthrow the mutiny in Miami and the former champs of chowder town.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | September 20, 2010 at 02:56 PM
Mark,
I'm sure Kobe views the titles as pieces of wealth also... but there's very little time to sit back and enjoy the wealth until, like you said, retirement. :-)
You think Kobe will be thinking of any of his past titles when he's in the moment facing a losing game in the playoffs? F no. The only one that matters is THIS one.
Posted by: Tim-4-Show | September 20, 2010 at 03:00 PM
You think Kobe will be thinking of any of his past titles when he's in the moment facing a losing game in the playoffs? F no. The only one that matters is THIS one. Posted by: Tim-4-Show | September 20, 2010 at 03:00 PM
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PREACH TIM-4-SHOW PREACH!!!!!
Posted by: Mamba24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:07 PM
I'm like Kobe, I never move on until the next trophy ceremony is complete with the purple and gold.
Posted by: NuggetsCountry | September 20, 2010 at 03:08 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Celtics-fans-can-blame-Kobe-for-the-Shaquille-O-?urn=nba-270942
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Could Shaq be a double-agent?
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What do we play for? RINGS!!!
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Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
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GO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | September 20, 2010 at 03:10 PM
Puddle - ditto that about the Dodgers. I am tortured and just can't trust anybody who owns a company and doesn't have any skin in the game. Stripping out the equity of the Dodgers to fund 8 houses - that's just despicable.
Tim-4-Show - haven't see you post in a really long time. Good to see you.
It seems like this week before camp all the old crowd is coming back into the fold. I am so happy. Now all we need is FAITH and ECJ to chime in soon. I miss those other Laker girls!!!!
Cheers - PLG
Posted by: PsychedLakerGirl | September 20, 2010 at 03:11 PM
After beating down Boston, I began thinking, not about a potential threepeat, but a potential fivepeat. I had hopes of Kobe ending his career with 8 or more championships, Phil winning two more titles with Kobe than he did with Jordan, and Kobe/Gasol becoming one of the greatest duos in league history. I know it sounds greedy, but this team has all the tools, and I couldn't picture any teams out there who would be favored against us any time soon. As a Laker fan, I was finally at peace.... that is, until Lebron, Bosh and Miller joined Wade in Miami. Miami has been a bit of a buzz kill this summer for me.
I think most of the fans on this blog are taking Miami too lightly. Riley is going to continue to add the right pieces, as they gain experience together, and is one solid center away from having NO weaknesses. Despite the fact that Vegas has the Heat as the favorites this year, I still think the Lakers are the favorites with an improved Artest on offense, Blake coming off the bench, and a healthy (fingers crossed) Bynum..... but after this season, all bets are off.
Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | September 20, 2010 at 03:12 PM
the 'high' is as its peak from the final buzzer up to reading some finals-related articles the following days.. but of course the bragging rights I have at home and workplace carries out to the next season.
Posted by: Showtime | September 20, 2010 at 03:13 PM
Well, Mamba pretty much summed it all up. We're Lakerholics for goodness sake.
I mean really...move on? MOVE ON? You move on when you lose.
As long as the Lakers are collecting Larry O'Brien's, Lakerholics will be collecting the memories.
Posted by: LakerLass | September 20, 2010 at 03:18 PM
MM,
you asked: But I'm wondering what the process entails for a Lakers fan. How long do you soak in the taste of victory? How long do you relish the journey that resulted in a Lakers championship? When do you feel it's time to move on? I
my response: The taste of victory lasts until defeat. I soak it in until free
agency starts. The beginning of free agency = the planning stage of the next
war. Once you start planning the next campaign, there's no time for relish.
Unless you have a Ball Park Frank. They plump when you cook 'em.
Move on? That's the wrong metaphor. Basketball is like a "slaughter line" in
jujitsu. You are at rest until they enter your space. As they enter, you catch
and bury them. While you sweat and your lungs heave, you wash the stains
from your soul and nourish your inner child. There is no moving on. You are
in the perfect place.
Posted by: hobbitmage | September 20, 2010 at 03:19 PM
KobeMVP888,
"Bynum & Sasha for 'Melo. It works salary-wise.
Who would do it? Who wouldn't do it?"
I prefer Melo wearing NYK jersey with Amare.. Plus, Melo is not my prototypical
SF for LAL.
I remember when I used to play NBA Live years ago, I'll trade for Ron to fill the SF position and Pau at PF.. that's why I'm so happy to see Pau and Ron wearing purple and gold.
Posted by: Showtime | September 20, 2010 at 03:21 PM
Splitter - Bynum
Duncan - Gasol
Jefferson - Artest
Ginobili - Kobe
Parker - Fisher
Posted by: Staples 24 | September 20, 2010 at 02:56 PM
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Next! Who do we get in Round 2?
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 20, 2010 at 03:24 PM
TROY… I have high hopes that the Niner team we were both expecting last week is going to show up this week. We’re retiring Jerry Rice’s jersey at halftime. It’s our first appearance on Monday Night Football in years. And the Saints didn’t look too good last week. Thanks also for the good wishes for my Yankees. Some of my greatest baseball memories were Yankees vs. Dodgers and I grew up loving and listening to Vin Scully, the greatest baseball announcer ever.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:25 PM
TROY… Just had another thought about Phil. The best bet for him to be involved with the Lakers going forward even if not as coach would be for him to become an honest man and marry Jeanie and become part of the family. That would keep him from taking on a job down the road with the Knicks. Go for love, Phil, and you will end up as part owner of the Lakers. LOL.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:28 PM
Kobe888,
"Next! Who do we get in Round 2?"
Fish - Deron
Kobe - Raja
Artest - AK47
Gasol - Milsap
Bynum - Jefferson
Lamar - Okur
Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | September 20, 2010 at 03:28 PM
I agree with what others have said. Till one of the other takes the trophy from us, ain't no reason to move on.
On that note, time to fire up You Tube to give my smile muscles their weekly exercise!
Posted by: utzworld - THE BANNER HOLDER | September 20, 2010 at 03:33 PM
A Lakerholic moving on after a championship? That's a complete and total oxymoron. We don't move on. We never move on. We just keep jonesing for the next fix. The next piece of Laker news. The next championship. It's a never ending, always exhilarating cycle of everything purple and gold. Of everything that's pure and right and just. Move on?? Are you freaking kidding me? We're Lakerholics baby. We don't move on - we just want more of the same! Number 17 coming up! And then # 18... and then # 19.... and then # 20.... and then...
Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:34 PM
my response: The taste of victory lasts until defeat. I soak it in until free
agency starts. The beginning of free agency = the planning stage of the next
war. Once you start planning the next campaign, there's no time for relish.
Unless you have a Ball Park Frank. They plump when you cook 'em.
Move on? That's the wrong metaphor. Basketball is like a "slaughter line" in
jujitsu. You are at rest until they enter your space. As they enter, you catch
and bury them. While you sweat and your lungs heave, you wash the stains
from your soul and nourish your inner child. There is no moving on. You are
in the perfect place. Posted by: hobbitmage | September 20, 2010 at 03:19 PM
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A Freakin Masterpiece!!! That's all A Freakin Masterpiece!!! except it is also...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:34 PM
Mamba24 - LOL then I guess we'll see you at the chat then
MM
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 03:36 PM
Well, Mamba pretty much summed it all up. We're Lakerholics for goodness sake. I mean really...move on? MOVE ON? You move on when you lose.
As long as the Lakers are collecting Larry O'Brien's, Lakerholics will be collecting the memories. Posted by: LakerLass | September 20, 2010 at 03:18 PM
Ah Lass, you wonderful Lakerholic you!!!!And Lass I never did this to you but I'm gonna have to...OUT FREAKIN STANDING MAM!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:37 PM
@MM… “When it happens there is pure joy and extasy (sic), but how long does it last?”
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LOL, Mark. For me, it has lasted 40 years. And Steve was right, I’ve watched all 11 NBA championships won by the Los Angeles Lakers, a well-deserved correction because I forgot to update MY championship resume.
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@PUDDLE… Thanks for the kind words. The real reason that I submitted my profile was that it was a chance for a proud grandpa to brag about his great grandkids. The kids were thrilled to logon and see their pictures. My only mistake was forgetting to include my wonderful daughter-in-law with my granddaughters pictures. Undoubtedly, I will have to make that up to her or I’ll be in big trouble. LOL.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:37 PM
Jon K: "http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Celtics-fans-can-blame-Kobe-for-the-Shaquille-O-?urn=nba-270942
Could Shaq be a double-agent?"
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This is a great story! You know what I love, is that when Shaq starts to cause friction, starts to complain about a lack of court time, a lack of touches, starts to become a problem in the locker room, loses interest in fitness - you know, all the things Shaq has been doing these past few years, when he does all that we can thank Kobe.
As I've said before, and will surely say again, this is Kobe's world, we all just live in it!
GO LAKERS!!!!!
Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 03:39 PM
A Lakerholic moving on after a championship? That's a complete and total oxymoron. We don't move on. We never move on. We just keep jonesing for the next fix. The next piece of Laker news. The next championship. It's a never ending, always exhilarating cycle of everything purple and gold. Of everything that's pure and right and just. Move on?? Are you freaking kidding me? We're Lakerholics baby. We don't move on - we just want more of the same! Number 17 coming up! And then # 18... and then # 19.... and then # 20.... and then...Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:34 PM
WTH? Is there an echo in here? Hobbitmage, Lakerlass, Justanothermambafan, mamba24 all reciting basically the same mantra. Move on, move on for what?...GOOD QUESTION? GOD I LOVE BEING A LAKERHOLIC!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:41 PM
@STAPLES… Bynum and Sasha for Melo. The Nuggets would never do it, nor would I. I would prefer to have Ron Artest over Melo. He is a better fit role-wise and chemistry-wise. Nothing against Melo but Kobe and Melo would have the same one-ball problems that LeBron and Dwayne are going to have. How about you?
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:44 PM
As I've said before, and will surely say again, this is Kobe's world, we all just live in it! Posted by: CyberCosmiX | September 20, 2010 at 03:39 PM
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I said it before and it appears I will be repeating it thru out the night, Sir you are on a Roll!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:44 PM
WTH? Is there an echo in here? Hobbitmage, Lakerlass, Justanothermambafan, mamba24 all reciting basically the same mantra. Move on, move on for what?...GOOD QUESTION? GOD I LOVE BEING A LAKERHOLIC!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:41 PM
See what a shot of Dr. Fatty's Lakerholics Tonic can do? wheeeeeeeeeeeee! *hic*
Posted by: LakerLass | September 20, 2010 at 03:45 PM
Can you help me guys, I'm a little bit confused here. Is mamba24 and this mamaba24 the same?
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 03:45 PM
@KBMVP888-
Trade Drew & Sasha for Melo, NO WAY!
1-we would be giving up our Pau, Drew, LO trio which is our 2nd biggest advantage over every team (let's be honest, Kobe is our biggest advantage)
2-Melo would likely be only a one year rental, no way I would take that risk.
3-there is no guarantee that a Kobe-Melo tandem would work, for the same reason I'm skeptical about the Lebron Wade tandem. When two ball dominating superstars join forces it usually doesn't work. Very few times has it ever worked (Thomas and Dumars?). BOTH players have to learn to work together, tailor their game to fit with one another, sacrifice the ball handling duties, learn to play off the ball, etc. I know Kobe could do it, but could Melo?
Posted by: Troy B | September 20, 2010 at 03:46 PM
ha ha looks like LT beat me to the one ball theory with a Kobe-Melo tandem lol.
Posted by: Troy B | September 20, 2010 at 03:50 PM
MM - another Edwin handle jacker alert @ 3:45 pm.
Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:51 PM
@LAKER TRUTH… “Despite the fact that Vegas has the Heat as the favorites this year, I still think the Lakers are the favorites with an improved Artest on offense, Blake coming off the bench, and a healthy (fingers crossed) Bynum..... but after this season, all bets are off.”
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I agree with everything but the last part. If Drew can prove he can stay healthy and play to his potential as we three-peat, he can become the third wheel in the Biggest Big Three in the NBA with Kobe, Pau, and Drew and a dominating front court with Drew, Pau, and Lamar. A healthy dominant Drew could well translate into those 7 NBA titles that LeBron, Wade, and Bosh were stupidly talking about. After a year as Wade’s bitch, I would expect Miami to self-destruct and LeBron asking to be traded back to Cleveland on his knees. LOL
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:52 PM
Can you help me guys, I'm a little bit confused here. Is mamba24 and this mamaba24 the same? Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 03:45 PM
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No he's not Edwin...but he does have some funny ISH!
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:53 PM
Justa JALF, that's really me. I want to be clarified on two names.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 03:54 PM
LOL Edwin - well - sometimes Mamba24 can't spell straight...:)
Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:55 PM
"I still think the Lakers are the favorites with an improved Artest on offense, Blake coming off the bench, and a healthy (fingers crossed) Bynum..... but after this season, all bets are off." Posted by: LAKER TRUTH
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Yes.. Bynum is "The Big If." With him, it's a "cake walk." W/O, the team will have to fight like they did last season. I think we have a much better bench and if everyone can keep their heads in the game and their eyes on the prize - hello L.O. - the team will finish on top again. Kobe's leadership will be key this season, more so than any other. The rest of the NBA will be gunnin' for the Lakers because the storylines are many and they'll all want to spoil it for the team, the fans and the city.
GO LAKERS!!
Posted by: frmkt | September 20, 2010 at 03:58 PM
@TROY… “ha ha looks like LT beat me to the one ball theory with a Kobe-Melo tandem lol.”
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That’s because great minds think alike. My edge is that I just stopped working to get ready to listen to my Yankees whip the Tampa Bay Devil Rays at the home that George built. Yankees and Niners to win tonight.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | September 20, 2010 at 03:58 PM
With all the 'mental note taking' that the princess has been doing, my bet is that her head explodes before the All Star Game.
Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:59 PM
Still looking for the DVD LakerLass. I found only one link for English Dubbed so far. Sent it to your E-Mail
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 03:59 PM
I'm sorry Mamba24 for that kind of treatment being lodged on your handle. If I may suggest for people who have no longer 20/20 vision, can you always add Larry at the end of your handle. I don't think it is even funny, it is plain crazy and childish!
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 04:00 PM
Justa JALF, that's really me. I want to be clarified on two names. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 03:54 PM LOL Edwin - well - sometimes Mamba24 can't spell straight...:) Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:55 PM
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What a nice person. Sometimes? Hell when have you ever known Mamba24 to spell straight Anytime. LOL! But your kindness is appreciated. Carry On.!
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 04:04 PM
After beating down Boston, I began thinking, not about a potential threepeat, but a potential fivepeat. I had hopes of Kobe ending his career with 8 or more championships, Phil winning two more titles with Kobe than he did with Jordan, and Kobe/Gasol becoming one of the greatest duos in league history. I know it sounds greedy, but this team has all the tools, and I couldn't picture any teams out there who would be favored against us any time soon. As a Laker fan, I was finally at peace.... that is, until Lebron, Bosh and Miller joined Wade in Miami. Miami has been a bit of a buzz kill this summer for me.
I think most of the fans on this blog are taking Miami too lightly. Riley is going to continue to add the right pieces, as they gain experience together, and is one solid center away from having NO weaknesses. Despite the fact that Vegas has the Heat as the favorites this year, I still think the Lakers are the favorites with an improved Artest on offense, Blake coming off the bench, and a healthy (fingers crossed) Bynum..... but after this season, all bets are off.
Posted by: LAKER TRUTH | September 20, 2010 at 03:12 PM
Great Response LAKER TRUTH.
I believe The Lakers have a very strong core with the right role players. The offseason additions addressed our biggest weakness, our bench.
I agree with you that the Heat, with the right pieces, will eventually be a powerhouse, and a legit threat to the Lakers; however I believe that going into THIS season we are the strongest TEAM on paper, and it will take time for the Heat to develop that killer instinct. With exception to Wade, no one on that roster has proven they have what it takes when it matters the most.
Between Kobe and Gasol, the Lakers have a very strong chance of ripping 2 or 3 more with those two as the prime movers. Eventually Kobe will have a reduced scoring role....which might not be such a bad thing.
I believe that Bynum is being groomed as a potential prime mover. If healthy, his potential is limitless, especially with Mr. Abdul Jabbar as a mentor. Bynum has had the luxury of playing along Kobe and Gasol; we don't have to depend on his scoring on a nightly basis just yet.
Similarly, Kobe had the luxury of playing along side shaq in his prime. It allowed Kobe to fine-tune his game in the midst of a dynasty. Granted Kobe played a larger role then as compared to Bynum now; nevertheless Bynum is developing in the same rich environment.
From Shaq-Kobe, to Kobe-Gasol, and potentially Gasol-Bynum, these Laker Squads could be the ones that the only category that boston still clings on to: titles.
If Kobe can continue to adapt his game, stay true to his work ethic, and Bynum can reach his potential, Kobe just may hit 8 rings, or perhaps even more.....
Posted by: Kobe Kalifornia's Finest | September 20, 2010 at 04:04 PM
Hey guys sorry about those people jacking handles. I'm starting to delete those now. I was out doing an interview so I'm catching up.
Here is a proposed idea. I just saw Typepad has a feature where it requires commenters to sign in, but it's via Typepad, Twitter or Facebook. I know you guys aren't crazy about doing that through social networking, but I thought I'd just throw it out there
MM
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 04:05 PM
Also, chat will be up in a few minutes
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 04:05 PM
With all the 'mental note taking' that the princess has been doing, my bet is that her head explodes before the All Star Game. Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:59 PM
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LMAO!! Damnit, you are funny!
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 04:05 PM
Mamba24 - just trying to help out a friend in need. LOL! Besides - you know you can't spell straight. But you CAN see straight, so that's something. You got that going for you...
Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 04:06 PM
I threw this Bynum-'Melo thing out there for many reasons. It's interesting that everyone is saying "no way." A trade scenario like this involving a bona fide superstar in an excellent way for us, as fans, to gauge Bynum's worth.
Here are my reasons for bringing it up:
1) The Heat. While we eliminate one advantage (Bynum), we offset LeBron with 'Melo. 'Melo can play more power forward like he did in Beijing with Kobe and Artest on the floor. I think we'll see LeBron-Wade-Miller on the floor a lot and I think that 'Melo-Kobe-Artest is more formidable. Gasol > Bosh and we have more depth.
2) The future. 'Melo is a bona fide star, just not a proven winner in the NBA yet. Kobe would get him there.
3) Having said all this, I wouldn't do it either. The thought of taking Bynum out of our 4-5 rotation is too risky. The thought of trying to three-peat without Bynum is too risky. This trade scenario, involving Bynum and a top 5 player in the league, with the response of smart fans saying "NO" is evidence of Bynum's worth to the team.
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | September 20, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Here is a proposed idea. I just saw Typepad has a feature where it requires commenters to sign in, but it's via Typepad, Twitter or Facebook. I know you guys aren't crazy about doing that through social networking, but I thought I'd just throw it out there Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 04:05 PM
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Oh my dear, dear Justanothermambafan, does this mean the LakersBlog will be saying goodbye to you because you don't do social media? Lol! Now dear I know you are too big for social media, but think of us little people back here who would be loss without your comic antics because...You are funny Damnit!! Now you are just gonna have to make the sacrifice and get a Twitter or face book account. Thats' all there is too it. Come on honey you can do it, do it for us little people!!! LOL! Now remember no throat punches. I have 6 more months of rehabilitative therapy before I'll be able to speak right again.
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 04:14 PM
Mamba24 - just trying to help out a friend in need. LOL! Besides - you know you can't spell straight. But you CAN see straight, so that's something. You got that going for you...Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 04:06 PM
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I just want you to know one thing...I'm taking notes! LMAO!!!
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Hey guys sorry about those people jacking handles. I'm starting to delete those now - MM
You told us that you deleted them based on their IP addresses, how come they can still ransack handles or misrepresent someone's handle? If Mamaba is different from our Larry Mamba24, it's unconscionable to go on with this charade. He's trying to confuse many of us here by copying his style and phraseology.This is no longer freedom to blog but height of mischievousness and you allow them do it on your blog.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 04:16 PM
@LT-
LOL, I only wish I had as great a mind as you! Maybe I'll get there one day. For now I'll just settle with being a lakerholic who pretends to know what he's talking about sometimes!
A thought provoking question for the blog -
Who is the greatest 6th man in NBA history? Greatest Lakers 6th man?
I think I know who I would pick for both categories. Unfortunately for us, I think the best in NBA history may just be a former Celtic. I know some of our blog historians will provide us with great insight here.
Posted by: Troy B | September 20, 2010 at 04:16 PM
@Edwin, Mamba24 & mamab24 were both me sorry for the mixup. But as my trusty sidekick and head of the Mamba Clan Justanothermambafan explained...I really can't spell straight! Lol! Thanks for having my back sir but in my case, at least for today, it was a false alarm. Sorry for the mixup.
Posted by: mAMBA24 | September 20, 2010 at 04:29 PM
Here is a proposed idea. I just saw Typepad has a feature where it requires commenters to sign in, but it's via Typepad, Twitter or Facebook - MM
~~that's just voluntary isn't it? Why do we need a twitter account and a face book in order to comment? This is not only ridiculous but unconstitutional too. LMAO!
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 04:31 PM
Lakers 6th man - well, Coop of course. And I always loved Bob McAdoo as well.
Posted by: 63 Footer | September 20, 2010 at 04:31 PM
We will not discuss Havlicek or Walton.
Posted by: 63 Footer | September 20, 2010 at 04:33 PM
A Lakerholic moving on after a championship? That's a complete and total oxymoron. We don't move on. We never move on. We just keep jonesing for the next fix. The next piece of Laker news. The next championship. It's a never ending, always exhilarating cycle of everything purple and gold. Of everything that's pure and right and just. Move on?? Are you freaking kidding me? We're Lakerholics baby. We don't move on - we just want more of the same! Number 17 coming up! And then # 18... and then # 19.... and then # 20.... and then...Posted by: justanothermambafan | September 20, 2010 at 03:34 PM
WTH? Is there an echo in here? Hobbitmage, Lakerlass, Justanothermambafan, mamba24 all reciting basically the same mantra. Move on, move on for what?...GOOD QUESTION? GOD I LOVE BEING A LAKERHOLIC!!!
Posted by: MAMBA24 | September 20, 201
Couldn't have said it better my self!!
And an unrecovered Lakerholic to boot!!
GO LAKERS!!!!!
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | September 20, 2010 at 04:43 PM
MM,
When you win it all, it is so precious you gotta strech it out. You gotta wallow in the thrill of a title until the stretch run of the next season.
I'll watch the games from here to March more as an opportunity to check out this year's Lakers as a work in progress: how do Kobe's knee and finger look. What is Bynum up to. How are the new guys fitting in? Will Sasha ever be a Machine again?
I'm watching a team I know are champs round into shape for another run. There will be highs and lows, but I don't worry too much about them. If there is a flat stretch in the season I won't be the guy calling to trade Gasol or make Fish a GM and get him off the floor. I know what those guys can do. It's all part of the journey, as Phil might say.
But in March I start to get serious. By then, things need to be gelling anfdyou need put the whip to the horse for the stretch run. Then you are no longer the champs, you are just contenders. Now I want to see wins, and impressive ones at that. Now it's time for me, as a fan, to give up last year's title and worry about this year's.
Bet you're sorry you asked.
Tom D.
Posted by: Tom Daniels | September 20, 2010 at 05:05 PM
I was surprised to read of Mamba's faint heart or degree of sensitivity lol, now Justa JALF is not in the mood, you might again post another twists. We look forward to reading your profile, how many Kleenex will I consume to wipe the tears? lol Goodluck for the opening of the season....will there be a new poem?
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Edwin,
I am confused. If it really was you then what does having to verify saying I am not in the mood? what difference does my mood have as Mamba24 and progressed beyond the foolishness of the argument and moved on. We are at peace and respectful of each other. So which Edwin is it?
s in the words of Vinny Barbarino " I'm so confused".
Posted by: JustaLakerFan | September 20, 2010 at 05:55 PM
We will not discuss Havlicek or Walton.
Posted by: 63 Footer | September 20, 2010 at 04:33 PM
LOL 63 Footer, I certainly understand that sentiment (btw, Havlicek was my thought for best 6th man ever). In that case, outside of Havlicek, who is the best in NBA history? That might be a bit more thought provoking anyway. Oh, and Coop was my obvious choice for Lakers, only wish I was around (old enough to remember) to see him play.
Who is the NBA's best 6th man in the last 20 years? 90/91 season on.
Posted by: Troy B | September 20, 2010 at 06:01 PM
I enjoy it and reflect right until the draft. From that point on I'm consumed with the off-season moves of the NBA. This off-season of course was very interesting; we are still one step ahead of everyone with the moves we made. September is the worse month for a basketball fan, I'm getting anxious.
Posted by: NBA4ever | September 20, 2010 at 06:15 PM
Justa- If everybody is not confused reading Larry, Edwin, you and me, they are not trying.
Posted by: phred | September 20, 2010 at 07:32 PM
Justa JLF,
Haha! we get all confused w/ the name Justa. I specifically refer to a post a week ago made by Justanothermambafan who is also Justa JALF. No worries it does not refer to you, Justa JLF. btw, I appreciate your previous posts before of our mutual respect but never mentioned it.
With regards to handle being used by Mamba24, I don't know now what to believe, they seemed playing along with the trolls.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 08:05 PM
Edwin - Well that's why we asked. It's an option Typepad has.
Good stuff here. Lots of great insight and truly captures your guys mindsets as fans. Perhaps I used the term "moving on" too loosely. I didn't mean you guys would literally forget about it. What I meant was when does the process take place where you're no longer celebrating the title win and start thinking about next season? I can't point out anyone individually, but I was kind of struck by some commenters who immediately started talking about free agency and the next season a day after Game 7.
MM
Posted by: Mark Medina | September 20, 2010 at 08:13 PM
For the sake of security I'm willing to use username/password before logging in, but to require us or force us to give you our face book or establish a twitter account.....that's just a stretch. Blogging is a two way street, we exchange opinions with fellow fans and LAT print them in your blog. This is a source of revenue for the Times, all we are asking is to protect our handles, is that too much to ask?
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | September 20, 2010 at 08:38 PM
Edwin- justanothermambafan- JAMF.
JustanotherLakerFan- JALF.
Just for reference.
Posted by: phred | September 20, 2010 at 09:33 PM
Until the next season, where my anticipation for a new championship overtakes the lingering emotions of the previous one.
Posted by: TNTLakerFan | September 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM
I've watched the last quarter of Game 7 at least twenty times and I still well up with tears when I see the emotional release by Pau. What an amazing, hard-fought, gritty, defensive masterpiece that game was. Kobe standing on the scorer's table, ball in hand, a shower of purple and gold. 2010 might go down as the sweetest Laker Championship of my life.
I'll never forget it.
I'm still basking in it.
Jason
Posted by: Jason | September 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Beating the Celts in Game 7 was especially sweet...
But a 3-peat over Lebron & the Heat will be 3 times as sweet!!
Posted by: Verballistic | September 21, 2010 at 01:55 AM
i was just so happy it was over i was happy to beat those guys as payback and it allways good to beat them green guys i really dont like like them. but once it was over i was already looking towards next year. still a little hurt over game 4 that year but i ready for our 3 peat this year
Posted by: lakers all day | September 21, 2010 at 05:52 AM
We are the champions. We wear that badge until the next championship is over. (And hopefully after.) Every day is celebration!
Posted by: James | September 21, 2010 at 08:37 AM
A Lakerholic moving on after a championship? That's a complete and total oxymoron. We don't move on. We never move on. We just keep jonesing for the next fix. The next piece of Laker news. The next championship. It's a never ending, always exhilarating cycle of everything purple and gold. Of everything that's pure and right and just. Posted by MAMBA24....
AMEN!! I'm a serious tennis player. Unfortunately, in the last four tournaments, I've been defeated in the finals by the same person. She owned me :-( Last weekend, before I left to play another club finals against the same *&^%$&% player, I watched the 2010 Lakers/Boston game 7. I Fast forwarded it to 36-49, Boston ahead. I watched the Lakers overcome the deficit by sheer determination and how they played like they wanted this championship MORE than the Celtics. This was such a physical game but Lakers were obviously MENTALLY stronger. I went to that tournament and made my opponent cry!!! LAKERS FOREVER!!!
Posted by: veyrevvy | September 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Lakers in the NBA are like Team USA to the olympics. We are expected to win gold every time! Anything short is a disgrace! I quess we are a bit spoiled! hahaha
Let's Go!
Posted by: Holla Atcha Boy | September 22, 2010 at 08:38 AM