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Should the Lakers try to surpass 72 wins next season?

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The topic has come up for the last two seasons, been met with a mixed reaction from the Lakers and then used as a false barometer to measure their success: namely, the pre-season prediction that the Lakers could surpass the Chicago Bulls' 72-game win record in the regular season that Michael Jordan and company set in the 1995-96 campaign. Some embrace it (Kobe Bryant). Some think it's misguided (Lakers Coach Phil Jackson). And then others milk it for everything it's worth (the media).

I don't mean to bring up this topic because I'm part of the circus and there's really nothing to talk about anymore during the NBA off-season. OK, part of that is true, but I'm bringing this up now as opposed to later because ESPN analyst Jeff Van Gundy recently told the Miami Herald that the Heat will surpass both the 72-win plateau and the 33-game consecutive winning streak set by the 1971-72 Lakers. I can write another separate post detailing why that prediction is unfounded, mainly because Miami will go through inevitable chemistry issues with the SuperTeam, every Eastern Conference team is gunning for them and a few squads that missed out on the LeBron sweepstakes (Chicago, New York, Cleveland) will throw everything at them to spite James.

But this being a Lakers blog, I think this issue also matters in terms of how the Lakers should approach the 2010-2011 season. Should the team set that as a benchmark? Or is it really a waste of time?

I see both sides to the argument. Proponents would say the Lakers surely have the talent to accomplish such a feat, and it would serve as a great motivating tool to get them through the grind at the regular season. Detractors would say the goal is misguided because it creates too much media pressure, serves as a false barometer and doesn't exactly equate with postseason success. Case in point, Cleveland finished the regular season with the league's best record the last two years and then imploded in the playoffs.

Given the makeup of the Lakers' roster, I think it's best to stay away from this idea for plenty of reasons. The Chicago Bulls accomplished that feat and prided themselves on doing so because they had a team that was completely dialed into winning. The team featured a superstar (Jordan), a sidekick (Scottie Pippen), a crazy but reliable specialized player (Dennis Rodman, in this case rebounding) and a pretty big supporting cast (Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, Luc Longley, Bill Wennington). On paper, it appears the Lakers would have a similar identity with a superstar (Bryant), a sidekick (Pau Gasol), a crazy but reliable specialized player (Ron Artest, in this case defense) and a pretty big supporting cast (Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher, Steve Blake, Matt Barnes and Shannon Brown). But the personalities are completely different. The '96 Bulls all appeared on the entire page, while I believe the Lakers would have a split between some embracing the challenge (Bryant, Artest, Barnes, Blake and Brown) and others seeing it as a meaningless exercise that will just burn them out in the postseason (Fisher, Gasol, Bynum, Odom). The reasons for the likely detractors would be varied, with Fisher wanting to save his fuel for the playoffs, Gasol fighting mood swings, Bynum worried about getting hurt and Odom being his unpredictable, laid-back self. So the only way this approach would work is if the team completely embraced the goal, proudly used it as a rallying cry and welcomed the constant media attention when they appeared to be falling short of reaching it.

That won't happen. Instead of the goal becoming an exercise to help the team strive for constant improvement throughout the season, the Lakers would become fixated on a number. Add in an unpredictable injury or a tough spot in the schedule (which will be released later Tuesday) and you already set yourself up as being seen in not being able to surpass expectations. If history has proven anything, Jackson has tried motivating the Lakers by dangling short-term carrots, such as challenging his team to go undefeated during a home or road stand or finishing off a month undefeated. It was often met with mixed results last season, but I'm afraid raising the ante would only increase the likelihood that the Lakers would begin playing not to lose instead of trying to win.

Although it would be difficult, the Lakers have the talent to pull off the feat. But playing not to lose isn't a good attitude to have in the post-season, a mindset that could only make it more difficult to three-peat.

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant with the Larry O'Brien NBA Championship Trophy as the team rides along the parade route in Los Angeles this year. Credit: Bryan Chan / Los Angeles Times

 
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Am I good, or am I good?! My powers are revving up for the season....


Dreaded repost:


Good morning Mamba24 & the fabulous Laker morning CRUE!!


Mamba24 - hope your "emergency" yesterday has been resolved, and that all is well now.


Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.


Rick my BFF - your mannequin comment was hilarious! It's true. There's no rivalry with Miami. Kobe's comment was right - if you don't meet in the Finals, it's not a rivalry. (You're memory ain't that bad, hobbit)!

Just fyi, the Canada conversation that started between Jon K and I was all in fun. There was no ill intent at all - we were messing with each other. I don't think anyone should be insulted by what was said. People need to be able to laugh at themselves & others in a spirit of good-natured-ness (yes that's a word!) and fun. We all pretty much "know" each other on here, and we DEF know when someone's being mean spirited. I'm sure you all agree that was not the case yesterday. So chillax peeps! It's all good! (And don't worry. I got this. Jon K doesn't even know the level of hurt that's gonna be put upon him. Let's just say it will involve vodka, percoset, Pepsi, cats & throat punching. Not necessarily in that order). LMAO!

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WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
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(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LAKERTOM –
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN
(087 LAKER LASS -
(09) JON K -
(10) LEWSTRS -
(11) FATTY -
(12) EDWIN GUECO -
(13) utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
(14) ART-FL LAKERS FAN -
(15) EASTCOASTJESSIE -
(16) HALOSANT -

Good Morning Blog Crue!

Good Morning Mamba - love that roll call!

So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.

Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le Rob.

Mamaba24, you're like Napoleon in this blog. We are your army of generals with all kinds titles in our handle. Reporting for duty Sir, that includes Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson and Pres. Obama.

Do we need to break the 72 wins? Nope, leave that to the team full of egos.

Just go for 3 peat enough said.

Oh-oh, not le rob but it is Wes Joe's friend, my mistake again.

@MM… Home Court Advantage should be our only goal for the regular season.
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@JUSTA… Well said about Jon K and the Canada discussion. No harm, no foul.
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@LRob…. Condolences. One of life’s downsides is losing friends as you get older.
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WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
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(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.
(07) EDWIN GUECO – Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le WES.
(08) LAKERTOM –
(09) RICK FRIEDMAN
(10) LAKER LASS -
(11) JON K -
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(13) FATTY -
(14) utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
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(16) EASTCOASTJESSIE -
(17) HALOSANT -

Go for it Lakers!

In most cases a best friend is considered closer than even a sibling, because you tend to be more open with them, sharing moments, secrets, desires & certain experiences that you hardly ever share with your own family members. So to lose one can be especially devestating. I can only imagine the feelings that you must be going through, and can only offer my deepest sympathy and condolences to you and your friend's family. You definitely have been blessed to have someone that you considered a "best" friend for such a long time and remembering all the shared moments and whatever bond you held should help you get though this. Be Strong and know that here you will always have friends.

72 wins is harder now then it was then. Regardless how you feel about the competition between then and now, there were def more "bad" teams then, esp with the expansion teams. Also, that bulls team was better than this lakers team. We do have the potential to be as good, but they had the talent, chemistry, attitude, and a perfect blend of role players to create a complete team. I'm hoping that this year the lakers can reach their potential to match that team, but it would require everyone to stay healthy (Bymum), the new players to pick up the offense immediately, and everyone to have the right attitude (doing everything for team and not self). I just don't see all that happening this year. Thankfully, we don't need all that to threepeat (which we will)!

Good Morning Laker Fam,

Mamba24, simply put, you are one awesome dude!

I like the other Van Gundy, the one that coaches Orlando. According to the Vincent Schiavelli look alike(JVG), all the other 29 teams shouldn't show up at all this season or for the next 6 years, since the Heat are going to be the greatest team of all time, shattering every record along the way. And he's a former coach and so called expert analyst for BSPN/ABC?!!! Hopefully, Mark Jackson will tell him, "you're better than that!"

Edwin Gueco:

you wrote: We are your army of generals with all kinds titles in our handle.


Response: Yeah, more like army of OLD CODGERS.

Gooooooood Morning Laker Nation, MM & The CRUE up so far: LRob, JohnnyV,
RedBluffPete, NewMexicoLakerLifer, Rick Friedman, HalosANT HobbitMage, WesJoeNixon.
longTimeLakerLover, Edwin Gueco, LakerTom, TroyB, Sase Antic,
So how is everybody? Everybody playing nice?
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CATCHING UP ON BITS AND PIECES FROM YESTERDAY:
Jon K - we'll talk about Canada when/if we ever meet up in person. Don't forget to wear some padding around your throat. LMAO!! Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 09, 2010 at 02:48 PM
LOL, This Canada thing seems to be winding down and while I'm not interested in fanning the flames, I have to say that when I read this comment from Justa, I was howling with laughter. I have never heard anyone say this, it was hilarious! ROFL~! Mamba, I can see why you like her so much. And, she really IS funny! Posted by: JohnnyV | August 09, 2010 at 06:24 PM
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All right JohnnyV how much did Justa pay you to Post this? Lol! Yes Justa is funny. And yes…I really, really, REALLY LIKE JUSTA…After all she is Head of The Mamba Clan! Lol!
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MM - you're such a big fat liar! You KNOW you're taking me, and you know you WANT to take me. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 09, 2010 at 02:18 PM
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I don’t know about MM, but Justa… I sure want to TAKE YOU!! ROFLMAO!!!

@Nemaia Faletogo, Good Morning my Brother! Thanks for the
Compliment, just trying to be like you! :)

Good morning to the best blog crew on the planet!

Weather forecast, Flagstaff: Sunny and warm for the next 7 days...Yeah baby!

Here's an article to make you feel sorry for NBA refs...

One point I did appreciate was the abuse parents give to Refs at the local levels. As a former junior high ref (did it as a volunteer), man were you abused by irate parents! Some of them really embarrassed their kids.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/nba/article/845768--feschuk-good-young-zebras-on-endangered-list

@JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN, I know you hate me, so I'm apologizing in advance. But you just can't say these things without knowing there will be reprecussions. Lol!

Break the 72 win record?

Although it would be a nice notch in the Laker Legacy belt, I'd have to say I agree more with Edwin's sentiment and say the Ultimate goal should be the 3-Peat. (But holding that record would be sweet.)

And Jeff Van Dummy shouldn't be allowed to speak anymore. If he gets the Christmas Day Game (which I'm sure he will), my TV will be on mute (to avoid sticking a pair of scissors in my ears) and have the radio broadcast on instead.

And he's a former coach and so called expert analyst for BSPN/ABC?!!! Hopefully, Mark Jackson will tell him, "you're better than that!" Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 10, 2010 at 08:43 AM
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Sorry my brother but I'm going to have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!

No to the 73 wins.
I'd be really happy with best record.

And even Phil doesn't seem to think it will happen.

http://thelakersnation.com/blog/2008/12/04/phil-jackson-says-bulls-record-is-safe/

And Jeff Van Dummy shouldn't be allowed to speak anymore. If he gets the Christmas Day Game (which I'm sure he will), my TV will be on mute (to avoid sticking a pair of scissors in my ears) and have the radio broadcast on instead. Posted by: HalosAnt | August 10, 2010 at 08:52 AM
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ROTFLMFAO!! OH SWEET JESUS! Don't do it HALOSANT!! lol!

Good Morning All...

Mamba24 - FANTASTIC Roll Call to get me going this morning...

Wes - my condolences for your loss...his memory will live on...

justa - good luck against Jon K...Canada beat USA in hockey with a last second goal by Crosby...Steve Nash stole 2 MVPs from Kobe...

Jon K - besides that, I don't think their is nothing else Canada can claim for a victory lap...and maybe Blue Jays winning the world series in 92-93...But remember Kobe scored 81 on the Raptors...

72 0r 59 wins...does not matter as long as we 3Peat...

Have a great day all...

The only win I want is win #16 in The Playoffs. Everything else is Fluff. If you are worried about Miami getting it..Forget about it. I promise 60 wins is the most they get. I also give you this guarantee now...The Finals will be a rematch of The Freakin LA Lakers against Boston. With both teams 100% healthy and no excuses in which case The Freakin Lakers will win in 5 Games. Bet on it.!!!!

This blog had this conversation last year too.

I think the Lakers just need to focus on playing hard and playing the right way. We do those things and we'll be alright.

Go Lakers!

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WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
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(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.
(07) EDWIN GUECO – Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le WES.
(08) LAKERTOM – Condolences. One of life’s downsides is losing friends as you get older.
(09) HALOSANT – In most cases a best friend is considered closer than even a sibling, because you tend to be more open with them, sharing moments, secrets, desires & certain experiences that you hardly ever share with your own family members. So to lose one can be especially devestating. I can only imagine the feelings that you must be going through, and can only offer my deepest sympathy and condolences to you and your friend's family. You definitely have been blessed to have someone that you considered a "best" friend for such a long time and remembering all the shared moments and whatever bond you held should help you get though this. Be Strong and know that here you will always have friends.
(10) POINT FORWARD – Sorry to hear of your loss Wes.
(11) LEWSTRS - Wes - my condolences for your loss...his memory will live on...
(12) RICK FRIEDMAN
(13) LAKER LASS -
(14) JON K -
(15) FATTY -
(16) utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
(17) ART-FL LAKERS FAN -
(18) EASTCOASTJESSIE -

No to 72 (unless 72 becomes necessary for securing home-court advantage). Yes to curtailing the minutes of the starters, to reduce the chance of injuries and conserve energy for the playoffs.

I guess it was Van Gundy's Heat prediction that prompted this poll....

My feelings are, that when Van Gundy said these things, he was either drunk, or is a complete idiot, or..........

Is trying to set up Miami for a fall.

His goal is to get the Heat to push so hard in the regular season, they fail in the playoffs. Thus helping his brother in Orlando.

And those guys are so egotistical, they will probably fall for it. The chance to be the greatest team EVER, just like Mike's Bulls team.

"Yes, we are that good. We can do it."

Fatty - Who is starting to feel this NBA season is becoming something like a bad movie, with the Miami trio, being the terrible acting stars of the show..

The Lakers shouldn't worry about the 72 wins, let the Heat and the three egos do the worrying.

I agree with Phil Jackson in that it takes too much effort for a West or East coast team to win 72. The travel is way too much for a team to take. How many times do teams have to take a red eye, practice in the afternoon, then play at night. When I take a red eye, the last thing I want to do is work. When I have done it for work, I don't think I have done much work.

This is especially true for a player like Kobe. He should be considered a workaholic, but he isn't. Kobe probably works on his game everyday of the season for at least four hours a day. Even if it's just watching film, that is mentally draining. I can't watch more than two regular movies in a day, imagine game film for hours.

Of course I want 73 wins to go with 17 rings. To do that Caracter better be better than LO and consistent. As LO goes, so goes the Lakers.

@Wes,
Sorry about the loss of your friend. I lost a close friend 3 years ago and it floored me. He was like a big brother/mentor, best friend all rolled up in one.

At his funeral, I found out that there were a number of people that felt that same way about him. You could literally feel the "Gaze of the King" when speaking to him. I miss him terribly.

I feel for you Wes, glad to hear you had a treasured friend. As much as it hurts to lose them, it is what we must endure when we love.

Morning Kids

Wes.. so sorry man.
When my bf Dave Halley died, we played this a lot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyEvsH4_ySU


My feelings are, that when Van Gundy said these things, he was either drunk, or is a complete idiot, or..........
Is trying to set up Miami for a fall.Fatty - Who is starting to feel this NBA season is becoming something like a bad movie, with the Miami trio, being the terrible acting stars of the show..Posted by: Fatty | August 10, 2010 at 09:04 AM
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OK,, OK Fatty just for that...I'm going to have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!!

@JohnnyV, Did I ever tell you, you are a good person my brother!

Mamba24 - context, my dear, context! I had it - you didn't.
But no worries - all in fun, right? I don't hate you. Just don't show up at the justa/jonk fight without some neckwear. And no - your thong won't save you. LMAO!!!!!!


I agree with Edwin - just stay healthy & go home with the 3-peat. Yeah the other records would be nice - 72 win - 33 straight - and I'd love the team to get them - but the 3-peat is the goal. I for one would be more than satisfied with that.

Fatty - I think JVG is always drunk AND a complete idiot. All day. All the time. He should just fall on his spork and put himself out of our misery. What a maroon...

16 wins in the playoffs is the only win total I care about.

That is all.

DBDH!

@ Wes -

Carry on, bro. 25 years is a long time. Some of us don't even get 25 years of our own life, let alone a true friendship like the one you guys shared. Much respect...

(dbdh)

Mamba24 - context, my dear, context! I had it - you didn't.
But no worries - all in fun, right? I don't hate you. Just don't show up at the justa/jonk fight without some neckwear. And no - your thong won't save you. LMAO!!!!!!Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 10, 2010 at 09:13 AM
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But Justa honey who's gone have your back if you demolish me. Hey wait a minute...LRob didn't introduce you to his friend Snoop did he? Lol!

Again with the Chasing 72 wins thing...let LeQueen and the Super Egos chase 72 wins. Then watch them crash and burn in the playoffs.

All the Lakers need to worry about is staying healthy and trying to secure home court for the playoffs. Then getting that 3-peat. Everything else good that happens in the regular season would be gravy.

I heard that DirecTv is developing a JVG button on the remote which allows a viewer to only hear Mike Breen & Mark Jackson during an NBA telecast on ABC. God, if only that feature was available a few years ago for Bill Walton, Reggie Miller, Magic Johnson (sorry, he was terrible), Quinn Buckner, John Thompson, Hubie Brown, and Doug Collins. GACK!

DBDH!

Let's go for 82-0
but not at the expense of burning our players out or risking injuries or anything else that will keep us from winning title #17.

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WE GOT THIS – TITLE 17 AND WE CAN’T MISS !! - BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - We Got This & We Want More! Nothing but a (17th) Title will suffice.
(02) LEWSTRS - DRIVER - I'm on the "WE GOT THIS" bandwagon...
(03) LAKERLASS – RIDING SHOTGUN - No matter what universe or alternate reality I’m in I AM A LAKER FAN!!
(04) #4 - WE GOT THIS
(05) MAMBA24 - SECURITY- HELL YEAH WE GOT THIS!! Besides I got Justa's Back!!
(06) EASTCOASTJESSIE – OH YEAH! WE GOT THIS!!!!!!
(07) LROB - Sign me up. Make no mistake...WE GOT THIS!
(08) COMPLEX-BROTHA
(09) NOAH
(10) CORNER J - SECURITY - Wherever there is injustice...you will find us, Wherever there is 4th quarter suffering...we'll be there, Wherever the No-mo-Bynum banditos beckon to break up the brotherhood of Laker Nation...you will find... THE LAKER AMIGOS!!!
(11) utzworld – THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER – CHAPLAIN - On the line this season: Kobe's 6th ring. Kobe's 2nd 3Peat. Phil's final season. Phil's 4th 3Peat. A potential head to head defeat of Shaq should the Celtics make the Finals. The NBA record tying 17th Championship. Destiny is calling. MOVE, HATERS! GET OUT THE WAY!
(12) LAKERMIKE - LIKE FINE ART. . .--stand too close, and the brilliance cannot be fully appreciated --pass judgment before the masterpiece is complete, and short-change the genius of the process Nobody ever marvels at the canvas underneath the final presentation, but instead the magnificance of the finished product. This postseason run of the Lakers is like Fine Art. Wait, just wait on it, & behold the beauty
(13) VMAN - When Dark threatens to extinguish Light, Lakers and Celtics collide. When Good and Evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics collide. When Love is threatened by Hate, Lakers / Celtics collide The path is clear. It's time to get ugly, turn up the tough. Pain? what pain? Injuries? Cut me. No Fear, the Suns shall illuminate our path, aid in our preparation for the battle ahead.
The Good, the Light, the Love, will Prevail... Rise Up! GO Lakers!
(14) FEARLESS - Kobe can win THROUGH his team mates. He can win WITH his team mates. He can win DEFERRING to his team mates. He can win IN SPITE OF his team mates. He can win INSTEAD of his team mates. He can even win BY HIMSELF (just ask Dallas & Toronto). Champions are forged in the 4th QUARTER. Franchises are defined in the 4th QUARTER. Dynasties are cemented in the 4th QUARTER. Sit back & watch PJ, Kobe & Fish orchestrate this symphony we call Lakers basketball to another parade down Figueroa Blvd. Hell are You
(15) ZAIRA AMATERASU - Laker Land: where all that is possible and even a lot of what is impossible happens on a daily basis. History repeats to the same patterns, but evolving from them to a more perfected reality, round after round. So we are the same: just better than last time. And we are getting better with every step more we take within the future.
(16) J24(LADYJEM(24) - To get through the hardest journey we need take only one step at a time, but we must keep on stepping” basketball is a journey, teams learn about their weaknesses and strengths as they play along all 82 games. so let's enjoy this journey with our team. onto the next win.
(17) JON K – LAKERS TODAY LAKERS TOMORROW LAKERS FOREVER – What do wwe play for? More Rings! Destiny is calling" I feel its pull. Let's get this!
(18) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER
(19) FAN OF THE MAMBA - Ooooh Weeeee!!! Just had a shot of that URLF Unrecovered Laker Holism Formula now put me on the "We Got This" bandwagon!
(20) FATTY
(21) CHRISTINA H. - I ride wih my Dad!
(22) D(EREK ) J(ETER) - The 17th Bandwagon. Me on that? Well duhhh, add me RIGHT NOW! I like Championships, ha, ha!
(23)NEMAIA FALETOGO - Sign me up! We been had this! 2 years straight and counting!
(24) RAIDERLAKER1980 - requesting charter membership to we got this wagon! yes we do. grand stand is what Phil is calling the Lakers at the podium this year!
(25) LAL –FAN – Put me on the WE GOT THIS BANDWAGON
(26) MAGIC PHIL - We have the BEST TEAM (eat this Meat & Chawders). PERIOD
(27) POINTFORWARD - Add me to the curator of the 17th.
(28) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Put me on that bandwagon,! I am READY for the "WE GOT THIS" wagon. Yeah, baby. Yeah. <--said in my best Austin Powers impersonation.
(29)SAMLL - I don't know why some people are harping about the Celtics' bigs. They can only play them, at most, 2 at a time. Will they play Shaq, Big Baby and KG together? I don't think so. Meanwhile, the Lakers can play Drew, Pau and LO together. So, what are you all worried about? WE GOT THIS
(30) HALOSANT - HATE the Celtics SO MUCH that I REFUSE to change my light bulbs to the more energy efficient ones, I REFUSE to recycle my aluminum cans, plastics and paper, I REFUSE to buy a hybrid vehicle, I REFUSE to stop using aerosol sprays! And WHY might you ask? BECAUSE I REFUSE TO GO GREEN!!!!Plus I leave my A/C on ALL DAY 'cuz I HATE the HEAT TOO!!!LAKERS BABY!!!!!!WE GOT THIS!!!!
(31) PURPLE & GOLD REIGN - Do I really have to say it? WE GOT THIS!!!
The default setting should be: Go ahead and ADD me to every Lakers Bandwagon there is! My Fan-dom may not extend as far back as some of the elder members of this Blog (who vividly remember the West/Baylor era), but my Devotion to the Los Angeles Lakers takes a back seat to no one. Cut me, and I bleed Royal Purple & Gold. I even have a fondness for the Minnesota Vikings just because of their team colors.
(32) RICK FRIEDMAN – WE GOT THIS
(33) WALLACE – Riding with JUSTA on the WE GOT THIS BANDWAGON!
(34) TOM DANIELS – WE GOT THIS
(35) GILBERT B. BATTUNG – YES, WE GOT THIS
(36) FLOYD – ALWAYS & FOREVER …WE GOT THIS

The Lakers team should set its main goal to have the best record in the West. This will position them with home court advantage in the first three rounds of the playoffs.

If the Lakers are in position to go for the best season's record in the NBA, then fine, that would be exciting, and worthwhile, but not essential.

Exceeding the 72 win season of the Bulls and/or the 33 straight wins by the Lakers are lofty attainments that require a large amount of luck.

Jeff Van Gundy is often wrong, as Mark Jackson points out four times each game the two do "color commentary" for. However, somebody needed to go out on a limb and predict wonders for the New Heat, and it might as well be the comical "what did he just day" JVG.

Good morning Wes,

Sorry for the loss of your friend Chuck. Stay strong.

17th Ring > 73-9

No. Instead, plenty of rest for Kobe and Bynum.


Break the 72 win season? Are you kidding? Anything to get people to post. :)

JVG is obviously suffering some lingering nuerological effects from his brief, yet unforgettable, ride on Zo's leg. His noodle must've gotten jostled violently as he slid across the floor like a Steve Buscemi-like rag doll while using a kung-fu-death-grip to impersonate Zo's ankle weight.

DBDH!

Good Morning Gentlepeople,
Context matters in this regard. We have no reason to go after anything more than home court advantage, which served us well recently.
Miami going on a 33 game streak is also absurd, thus some context...
In 1971 our Lakers had started off the year 6 and 3 when they went on the streak. Still on our minds was the spanking we had received in the Western Conference finals against Milwaukee. That team had Kareem, Lucius Allen, Bob Boozer, Dandrdige and the Big O. Oscar had a wonderful season, and one for the ages. He shot 49% thru the season, 85% from the line, averaged 8.2 assists, and they beat us by an average of 20 points in their 4-1 near sweep of us on their way to a championship.
That provides a bit of motivation.
I remember the streak, and how when we walked on the court, you could see in other team's eyes the realization that we would be hard to beat. I recall the fluidity, confidence, and teamwork that seemed so normal for that group at that time.
So given today's environment, no, we shouldn't try to in any way go for 72 wins, and Miami has no chance in any version of hell of matching our 33 game streak.
Oregon Wade

JVG is obviously suffering some lingering nuerological effects from his brief, yet unforgettable, ride on Zo's leg. His noodle must've gotten jostled violently as he slid across the floor like a Steve Buscemi-like rag doll while using a kung-fu-death-grip to impersonate Zo's ankle weight.Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | August 10, 2010 at 09:47 AM
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ROTFLMAO!!! Stop this DBDH! Stop this I say! JVG is a nice honerable....Blitteriing idiot. I suspect one of you guys...I'm not saying who slipped him some Percocet & Vodka to make him say these silly things, Fatty, Justa, RaiderLaker1980, LRob fess up!!!

Wait until Miami makes a few west coast swings and has to go up against, not only the Lakers, but OKC, the Spurs, Mavs, Denver, Clippers, etc, with a few back-to-backs, 4 games in 6 days thrown in there.
Ok, well maybe they will beat the Clippers, but just sayin', the wests top 8 aren't patsy's.


Justa

I have an update for you. As you know, I had renounced God and taken up with the Magic 8 Ball as my spiritual advisor.
That turned out to be a regrettable move.. After enduring some significant wrath, I’m here to tell you that the Magic 8 Ball is full of crap.
Which means that the ipad is back in the picture...
I’m just a messenger here, but He says that someone named Mark Medina will be taking you to the All Star Game. (courtside seats)
And that this Mark Medina will hand you a tray of nachos..
but the “tray” will actually be a new 4G ipad!

Just thought you'd like to know. I guess it's up to Mark Medina now..

Ok, well maybe they will beat the Clippers, but just sayin', the wests top 8 aren't patsy's. Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | August 10, 2010 at 09:50 AM
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Preach, Art, Preach! I think all of the 8 were 50 wins or over. So come on over to the West Side Miami, we got a lil something, something for ya!

Hey guys we got a new post up

MM

After enduring some significant wrath, I’m here to tell you that the Magic 8 Ball is full of crap.Posted by: Noah | August 10, 2010 at 09:53 AM
WAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! THIS IS THE READER COMMENT OF THE DAY!!!!!! OH SWEET JESUS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!


I agree that the only thing that matters is home court and a ring. That said I hope we don't fall into the trap of trying to "flip the switch" at the end of the season. I hate that statement. Momentum is huge...


...and Justa, here's something to wet your whistle..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8EWjOy8jdw

Justanothermambafan,

you wrote: I agree with Edwin - just stay healthy & go home with the 3-peat. Yeah the other records would be nice - 72 win - 33 straight - and I'd love the team to get them - but the 3-peat is the goal. I for one would be more than satisfied with that.

my response: agreed.

MM,

you wrote: The '96 Bulls all appeared on the entire page, while I believe the Lakers would have a split between some embracing the challenge (Bryant, Artest, Barnes, Blake and Brown) and others seeing it as a meaningless exercise that will just burn them out in the postseason (Fisher, Gasol, Bynum, Odom). The reasons for the likely detractors would be varied, with Fisher wanting to save his fuel for the playoffs, Gasol fighting mood swings, Bynum worried about getting hurt and Odom being his unpredictable, laid-back self. So the only way this approach would work is if the team completely embraced the goal, proudly used it as a rallying cry and welcomed the constant media attention when they appeared to be falling short of reaching it.
That won't happen. Instead of the goal becoming an exercise to help the team strive for constant improvement throughout the season, the Lakers would become fixated on a number. Add in an unpredictable injury or a tough spot in the schedule (which will be released later Tuesday) and you already set yourself up as being seen in not being able to surpass expectations. If history

my response: At what point will Odom & others get it? What is it? 6 or 7
years and Odom is still a space cadet. Let's be honest:

This is Phil's last year. How could you *NOT* try to go for all of the records?

In order:

re: Fisher conserving energy. Don't care. Blake is such a HUGE upgrade over
Farmar it doesn't matter.

re: Gasol & the mood swings. I'm unsure about this. The first 2 years Gasol
didn't have mood swings. Last year, after winning the Euro championship
he thought more highly of himself than he ought. Since he's bright, we should
hope that last year taught him his lesson. I don't think his mood swings are
an issue.

re: Bynum getting hurt. 72-wins does not depend upon Bynum getting hurt.
72-wins depends on the rotation of the C/PF positions. For whatever reason,
Phil chose not to use/develop Mbenga. We picked up Ratliff, who is a
defensive minded C and Phil will play him. [ Before one of Bynum's fans tries
to start something with me, I am not saying that Bynum is not an important
part of the team. I am saying that over the last 3 years Bynum has been hurt
for a major part of every season and we've been to the finals 3 years in a row
without major minutes from our 2nd/3rd string C. ]

re: Odom. My understanding is that Ratliff can also play PF. Consider a
bench of Blake - PG, Shannon/Sasha - SG, Barnes - SF, Ratliff - PF, Gasol - C.
Is there any 2nd unit in the NBA that's better? [ I have Gasol in at C because
for the last 3 years he's spent time at PF & C ] Our second unit has outside
shooting, passing, rebounding, high basketball IQ, defense, & some
athleticism.

To be honest, the goal was, is & will always be to win the championship. That
being said, you *MUST* consider breaking the 72-win record. This team is
SUPPOSED to be that good! We will have strong perimeter defenders
starting & coming off the bench. We will have a good to great frontline
starting & coming off the bench. There is no reason why this Lakers squad
should not challenge for the best team to ever play, in terms of wins.

Season prediction - Barring injuries, the Lakers will have 4 all-stars.

Kobe & Gasol. Artest will get the all-nba defense nod. Bynum will finally
get the nod for C because the west has become weaker.

Go Kobe!
Go Lakers!!

Hey guys we got a new post up Posted by: Mark Medina | August 10, 2010 at 09:59 AM
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Then go show it to Shaq!

try to surpass 72 wins? that's not really the Lakers style. experiment with lineup, tinker, rest up injuries, and cruise control through the all-star break. then kick it up a notch to gain some momentum into the playoffs.

leave the 73 wins to lebron and company. lol.

Good morning, blog crew.
I'm sorry to hear that wes lost his friend.
Condolences, bro.
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72 wins? Why? Who cares?
Ring #17, that's what matters.
Cheers.

@NOAH, you really shouldn't patronize the child this way. She really believes in things like Magic 8 Balls and IPADS appearing to her from thin air. You are only prolonging the moment she finds out you've been selling her a bill of goods and she rips your throat out!!! LMAO!!

We play for Championships. We don't play for personal records.


I don't care if we enter the playoffs as an eigth seed, as long as we take home a ring.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Lakertom said it best.. And I've said before and I'll say it again.. ONLY goal of the regular season should be securing HOME COURT ADV especially with stern at the helm.

Hopefully this won't be a tall order considering:

A. balance of power has somewhat shifted to the east
B. Our bench is revamped
C. Bynums knees will also play a big factor. If he stays healthy regular season could be a complete cakewalk


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WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
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(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.
(07) EDWIN GUECO – Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le WES.
(08) LAKERTOM – Condolences. One of life’s downsides is losing friends as you get older.
(09) HALOSANT – In most cases a best friend is considered closer than even a sibling, because you tend to be more open with them, sharing moments, secrets, desires & certain experiences that you hardly ever share with your own family members. So to lose one can be especially devestating. I can only imagine the feelings that you must be going through, and can only offer my deepest sympathy and condolences to you and your friend's family. You definitely have been blessed to have someone that you considered a "best" friend for such a long time and remembering all the shared moments and whatever bond you held should help you get though this. Be Strong and know that here you will always have friends.
(10) POINT FORWARD – Sorry to hear of your loss Wes.
(11) LEWSTRS - Wes - my condolences for your loss...his memory will live on...
(12) JOHNNYV - @Wes, Sorry about the loss of your friend. I lost a close friend 3 years ago and it floored me. He was like a big brother/mentor, best friend all rolled up in one.
At his funeral, I found out that there were a number of people that felt that same way about him. You could literally feel the "Gaze of the King" when speaking to him. I miss him terribly.
I feel for you Wes, glad to hear you had a treasured friend. As much as it hurts to lose them, it is what we must endure when we love.
(13) NOAH - Wes.. so sorry man. When my bf Dave Halley died, we played this a lot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyEvsH4_ySU
(14) DON’T BLAME DELL HARRIS - Wes - Carry on, bro. 25 years is a long time. Some of us don't even get 25 years of our own life, let alone a true friendship like the one you guys shared. Much respect...
(15) RICK FRIEDMAN - Good morning Wes, Sorry for the loss of your friend Chuck. Stay strong.
(16) MAGIC PHIL - I'm sorry to hear that wes lost his friend. Condolences, bro.
(17)LAKER LASS -
(18 JON K -
(19 FATTY -
(20 utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
(21) ART-FL LAKERS FAN -
(22) EASTCOASTJESSIE -


Mamba24

Luckily for me, it's Mark Medina's throat at risk now!

The Lakers' focus should be on the integration of new team members into the system and reduicing chances of injury (ie: less play-time for key players). Should Phil see the need to sacrifice a handful of games to achieve this goal, then so be it. Win-record isn't important. raising another O'Brien is, and the stand a much better chance of doing so with a healthy and rested team.

Would I personally, as a Lakers fan like to see this team win 73+ games next year...sure, but reality in a grueling 82 game season mostly tells otherwise. There are a lot of factors that come into a team winning that many games.


1- Team Motivation
2- Injuries
3- League Competition
4- Schedule
5- Pressure


Team Motivation:


Question is, will the Lakers be motivated enough to want to carry such a feat. We all know that the Lakers like to have this lackadasical type of attitude throughout certain parts of the season, whereas, if it is important for L.A. to break this record, they will need to be mentally checked in every single game of the season. In otherwords, approach every game like it's an elimination game, whether it being the Minnesota Timberwolves or the Boston Celtics.


Second, being that this is Phil Jackson's last year as a coach before sailing off into the distance with a record 12 championship banners under his belt, are the Lakers, as a complete team willing to press hard on adding another great record on Phil's resume...by breaking his former teams win/loss record. That should be motivating enough.


Injuries:


Injuries, as we all know can stir a team into an unpredictable spiral right before our eyes. Fortunately, for the Lakers, they have a decent big man to back up the frontcourt in Lamar Odom, which is where the majority of our injuries have come from in the past season (i.e. Andrew Bynum). But the bad news is that if the Lakers are looking to break this 72-10 record set by Chicago, Injuries will need to be set at a minimum, unless your bench is backed with players who could start on other teams. Then it comes down to how many injuries occur over the course of time. My safe bet is to remain injury free (hard to accomplish) if the Lakers want to break this win/loss record.


League Competition:


As mentioned earlier, the competition today in the NBA is tougher than it was in the 90's when Chicago accomplished this feat. I couldn't agree anymore. In fact, teams look forward to playing the Lakers because of its rich history. So, unlike the Chicago Bulls (even with Michael Jordan on the team), the Lakers have a bigger target on their backs. Therefore, the Lakers have to be up to the challenge every single game, which to me, explains why this team at times appears to have this lackadasical approach to games. Physically, as a team...they are tired and want to take a night off.


And lets not put aside the teams that really will give the Lakers a challenge both in the Western and Eastern conference...particulary teams like Portland, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Miami...just to name a few. Point being, the league is more competitive than it was back in the day with the great Chicago Bulls team.


Schedule:


Again, this leads off of competition and the Lakers will power to accept who they have to play by giving it their all every single game...through a grueling 82 game season. They are going to have to go on extended road trips, make it through long home stands, accept the challenge of back-to-back road games (in different cities) and so forth. Of course, the Lakers are not trying to have a perfect season, nor will they. But this is the area where the Lakers losses will come into play. It isn't because they loss focus on the ultimate goal....but because it is mental and physical fatigue that will play it's course. It's just a manner of when and where.


Pressure:


Simply, will the Lakers as a team and organization be able to withstand the pressure from the media, it's competitors and fans as this record begins to look more and more possible to achieve.


As you can see from these five factors alone, the difficulty of achieving a win/loss record such as the Chicago Bulls of the 90's succeeded in. Do I think the Lakers can achieve this goal....I hope they can, but I don't think they will. The competion is fierce, the scheduling is more grueling and the pressure is insurmountable (overwhelming) in today's NBA. But I do say that if the Lakers are to win 73 games or more this season, they will truly be the greatest NBA team of all time.

Luckily for me, it's Mark Medina's throat at risk now! Posted by: Noah | August 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM
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Damn Noah you got skills. Nice the way you passed that!! LMAO!

As you can see from these five factors alone, the difficulty of achieving a win/loss record such as the Chicago Bulls of the 90's succeeded in. Do I think the Lakers can achieve this goal....I hope they can, but I don't think they will. The competion is fierce, the scheduling is more grueling and the pressure is insurmountable (overwhelming) in today's NBA. But I do say that if the Lakers are to win 73 games or more this season, they will truly be the greatest NBA team of all time. Posted by: Razdizzlefoshizzle | August 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM
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Sir that was so good I am almost ashamed to do this but I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!

hobbitimage - i see your point but i think it's been lame to see them half heartily endorse it for the past two seasons and then quickly show they didn't really care about it once it became clear they weren't on pace to break the record. it needs to be an all or nothing deal

noah - i think you may have been giving wrong information. you should've known david stern denied justa's entry to the ASG because of the heavy criticisms you throw at him in this forum

MM

noah - i think you may have been giving wrong information. you should've known david stern denied justa's entry to the ASG because of the heavy criticisms you throw at him in this forum MM Posted by: Mark Medina | August 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM
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Noah I suggest lots of padding for that throat! LMAO!!!!

you should've known david stern denied justa's entry to the ASG because of the heavy criticisms you throw at him in this forum Posted by: Mark Medina | August 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM
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AW HELL NAW!! Nobody denies my honey entry to the ASG if She wants it. David Stern you are a diabolically Evil, Evil, Man. Fixing the game so Miami would win the Title and Beat dallas a few years ago...OK, Letting Princess Jimmy diss Cleveland the way he did and finely after much hesitation giving him a miniscule fine....OK, Even assembling a team to bring down my beloverd lakers...*gulp* OK. But saying my baby can't go to the ASG, AW HELL NAW. This calls for the services of The Magic 8 Ball!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MM

I'm just saying what He told me..
If Darth Stern becomes an obstacle to you delivering the ASG seat and the ipad,
I'm sure God will smack him around.

I'm just saying what He told me.. If Darth Stern becomes an obstacle to you delivering the ASG seat and the ipad, I'm sure God will smack him around. Posted by: Noah | August 10, 2010 at 10:34 AM
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Noah this way leads to Madness!! Stop it, stop it I say!

No! The Lakers should just focus on winning the Western Conference for Homecourt advantage and nothing more. Don't want anyone to get hurt before playoffs!

As a Laker fan I would absolutely love to break the 72 win record (and the 33 win streak too). As a realist I don't think it will happen. Look PJ has a long history of sacrificing regular season wins in order to prepare his teams to be champions. That bulls team was already at that level. They really had no more "lessons" to learn. I'm not talking about the stars, but team wide. the role players were solid with their role and knew the offense well. The Lakers on the other hand have new key role players who need to learn the offense, and some returning players who still don't fully "have it" yet (Bynum) or for whatever reason don't seem to give it their all every game (Odom). The Lakers should still be able to easily win the west and threepeat, but don't expect a perfect season.

Wes,


I'm sorry about your friend. This must be a difficult time for you. It sucks that you have to go through this.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

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WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.
(07) EDWIN GUECO – Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le WES.
(08) LAKERTOM – Condolences. One of life’s downsides is losing friends as you get older.
(09) HALOSANT – In most cases a best friend is considered closer than even a sibling, because you tend to be more open with them, sharing moments, secrets, desires & certain experiences that you hardly ever share with your own family members. So to lose one can be especially devestating. I can only imagine the feelings that you must be going through, and can only offer my deepest sympathy and condolences to you and your friend's family. You definitely have been blessed to have someone that you considered a "best" friend for such a long time and remembering all the shared moments and whatever bond you held should help you get though this. Be Strong and know that here you will always have friends.
(10) POINT FORWARD – Sorry to hear of your loss Wes.
(11) LEWSTRS - Wes - my condolences for your loss...his memory will live on...
(12) JOHNNYV - @Wes, Sorry about the loss of your friend. I lost a close friend 3 years ago and it floored me. He was like a big brother/mentor, best friend all rolled up in one.
At his funeral, I found out that there were a number of people that felt that same way about him. You could literally feel the "Gaze of the King" when speaking to him. I miss him terribly.
I feel for you Wes, glad to hear you had a treasured friend. As much as it hurts to lose them, it is what we must endure when we love.
(13) NOAH - Wes.. so sorry man. When my bf Dave Halley died, we played this a lot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyEvsH4_ySU
(14) DON’T BLAME DELL HARRIS - Wes - Carry on, bro. 25 years is a long time. Some of us don't even get 25 years of our own life, let alone a true friendship like the one you guys shared. Much respect...
(15) RICK FRIEDMAN - Good morning Wes, Sorry for the loss of your friend Chuck. Stay strong.
(16) MAGIC PHIL - I'm sorry to hear that wes lost his friend. Condolences, bro.
(17) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Wes, My sincerest condolences on the passing of your BF. May God comfort and give you strength during this time loss. God bless.
(18)LAKER LASS -
(19) JON K - I'm sorry about your friend. This must be a difficult time for you. It sucks that you have to go through this.
(20) FATTY -
(21) utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
(22) ART-FL LAKERS FAN -
(23) EASTCOASTJESSIE -

No, the Lakers this year, and any other year, should just play ONE GAME AT A TIME. No more and no less. Roll with what ya brung, nite in and nite out. What ever happens, after that outcome, should just be accepted as what it is. The regular season has become a game of survival. It should be respected for the beast that it is.

73 win goal should be there as a fun sharpen defense motivator and to work on consistency. A companion goal should be to keep the pressure off by limiting starters to a max 32 min. average/game. Celtics defense is that good and that focussed because they play that way all 82 games. As long as that is done by limiting startger minutes burn out can be prevented. The key is to get the bench enough playing time throughout the season and not expect them to perform under pressure during the play offs with inadeqauate playing time all season. The 73 win goal should be secondary to honing mental toughness and defensive team effort 1-10 for the Laker team. Within that framework the 3-peat will be guaranteed, so would a nasty dynasty!

The Lakers should shoot to have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. There is no way they beat the Heat or Celtics if game 7 is on the road.

The leadership of LBJ & D-Wade alone will push the Heat to 70 wins.

I a Laker fan, but if the Lebron led Cavs pushed the Lakers around last season. What do you think will happen when you replace Mo Williams with D-Wade and replace Verajo with CB4.

The Lakers did a lot of improving this summer, but they have to play team ball to beat the Heat.

My condolences to Wes. sorry to hear such bad news.

*_________________________________________________________________________*
WESJOENIXON - SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF YOUR BEST FRIEND OF 25 YEARS – BANDWAGON
To: CHUCK HEART, RIP BROTHER. (I don't know what this video is about, but the song is great): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
*_________________________________________________________________________*
(01) LROB - Sorry to hear about your loss. Sympathy and prayers to and the family of your friend.
(02) MAMBA24 - Wes my brother, my prayers are with you and the Family of your Best Friend.
Stay strong my Brother & may God be with all of you .
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Wes - so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
(04) #4 -
(05) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER -
(06) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - So sorry for your loss, Wes. I haven't lost a best friend, but I've lost a parent. When you lose someone so close to you it's a deep, heart wrenching loss. May you be filled with peace as you remember all the good times you had together. Missing them is part of the package and grief wells up at the weirdest times, but you will get through it. God bless you and I pray He binds up your heart and holds it close.
(07) EDWIN GUECO – Will say a prayer for your friend's soul Le WES.
(08) LAKERTOM – Condolences. One of life’s downsides is losing friends as you get older.
(09) HALOSANT – In most cases a best friend is considered closer than even a sibling, because you tend to be more open with them, sharing moments, secrets, desires & certain experiences that you hardly ever share with your own family members. So to lose one can be especially devestating. I can only imagine the feelings that you must be going through, and can only offer my deepest sympathy and condolences to you and your friend's family. You definitely have been blessed to have someone that you considered a "best" friend for such a long time and remembering all the shared moments and whatever bond you held should help you get though this. Be Strong and know that here you will always have friends.
(10) POINT FORWARD – Sorry to hear of your loss Wes.
(11) LEWSTRS - Wes - my condolences for your loss...his memory will live on...
(12) JOHNNYV - @Wes, Sorry about the loss of your friend. I lost a close friend 3 years ago and it floored me. He was like a big brother/mentor, best friend all rolled up in one.
At his funeral, I found out that there were a number of people that felt that same way about him. You could literally feel the "Gaze of the King" when speaking to him. I miss him terribly.
I feel for you Wes, glad to hear you had a treasured friend. As much as it hurts to lose them, it is what we must endure when we love.
(13) NOAH - Wes.. so sorry man. When my bf Dave Halley died, we played this a lot...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyEvsH4_ySU
(14) DON’T BLAME DELL HARRIS - Wes - Carry on, bro. 25 years is a long time. Some of us don't even get 25 years of our own life, let alone a true friendship like the one you guys shared. Much respect...
(15) RICK FRIEDMAN - Good morning Wes, Sorry for the loss of your friend Chuck. Stay strong.
(16) MAGIC PHIL - I'm sorry to hear that wes lost his friend. Condolences, bro.
(17) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Wes, My sincerest condolences on the passing of your BF. May God comfort and give you strength during this time loss. God bless.
(18)LAKER LASS -
(19) JON K - I'm sorry about your friend. This must be a difficult time for you. It sucks that you have to go through this.
(20) L.M. - My condolences to Wes. sorry to hear such bad news.
(20) FATTY -
(21) utzworld THE ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER 0-
(22) ART-FL LAKERS FAN -
(23) EASTCOASTJESSIE -

It doesn't matter how many wins Miami or Orlando have.

We only need to have more wins than the team we play in the Finals, Boston, to have home court advantage.

"Should the Lakers try to surpass 72 wins next season?"

No.. they should concentrate on executing the stratedgy for each and every game to perfection; no games off and if they break the record, great. what's important is the 'chip and if the record is broken, then that'll be more gravy for the PJ train. He deserves it more than any other coach in sports, PERIOD!

GO LAKERRS and IN BUSS WE TRUST!!

I don't think there is a lot of motivation for Phil to break the record, it's his record.

The team would need to decide to do it, ain't gunna happen.

The leadership of LBJ & D-Wade alone will push the Heat to 70 wins.

I a Laker fan, but if the Lebron led Cavs pushed the Lakers around last season. What do you think will happen when you replace Mo Williams with D-Wade and replace Verajo with CB4.

The Lakers did a lot of improving this summer, but they have to play team ball to beat the Heat.

Posted by: GeeMack


So, I imagine by adding Chris Bosh in the mix, the Heat should be able to push a 80-2 record this season. My question GeeMack is this...How did you come up with the assumption that Miami, with Wade and LeBron will push Miami to 70 games...ALONE! Sure, these guys are two of the top 5 players in the league, but these guys alone will not run over NATIONAL BASEKTBALL ASSOCIATION Teams! This is not High School and these two alone will not push Miami to a 70 win season alone.


It takes a team of individuals to achieve such a task and if I feel that the Lakers won't be able to surpass this goal, believe me when I say this, Miami sure in the heck won't be able to do this. Your talking about a team here who just assembled itself over the summer. There are too many questions to answer for anyone to assume that they can meet or break the Chicago Bulls record. This includes Jeff Van Gundy who I personally feel is more of a nut than a basketball analyst.


"What do you think will happen when you replace Mo Williams with D-Wade and replace Verajo with CB4".


Well, D-Wade won't replace Mo Williams seeing that these guys play different positions. I'm not sure where you were going with this comparison seeing that the Cavaliers are not the Heat of last year and vice versa. Again, two guys don't make a team, and two guys, no matter who they are, will not run over the NBA competition. No way, no how!


Mamba24, thanks for your compliment earlier today. I thought long and hard on that particular post. I know there is more to it, but I just thought I would touch on the basics. Thanks again.

Kobe against "the quitter" Le Bron on x-mas, and " the big minimum" shaq on Jan.30, let the game begins.

My condolences to you, Wes.

The Lakers should concentrate on attaining the best record in order to gain home court advantage in the playoffs. As far as the record, it's just a number...a number that would take a great deal of luck including having a near injury free season for most of the team. Let's remember, though, Cleveland had the best record for the last two seasons and they were eliminated both years before the finals. I'd rather have the team rested for the playoffs, then trying to shoot for some record. Records do not win championships, teams that play the best in the playoffs do.

First off, let's all admit that Jeff Van Gundy doesn't know his thumb from his %$%@. He is my least favorite announcer and his voice makes my skin crawl.

Second, I'd hate to see Kobe and Co. wear themselves down by going for what is, in essence, an arbitrary record. All that counts in our town is THE TITLE. And we've proven two years (and counting) that we don't need the best record in the league to win it.

Let Super Dorks in South Beach chase Van Gundy's 'prediction' while Mamba and the gang are methodically wearing down the West and gearing up for an EPIC THREEPEAT.

GO LAKERS! It's going to be a great season.

Two reasons the Lakers won't win 72:

A) The league. 1995-96 was an expansion year. The Bulls won 72, Seattle won 64, Orlando 60, San Antonio 59. Not happening next season.

B) They aren't *that* good. Best record in the Western Conference is a reasonable goal. 55-60 wins sounds about right. More would be welcome.

Waiting for the title for NBA season 2010/2011. ;)


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