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Shaq wins over Harvard Yard

Shaqceltics Ex-Magic, ex-Laker, ex-Heat, ex-Sun, ex-Cavalier and new Celtics center Shaquille O'Neal worked the crowds in Harvard Yard over the weekend, and literally stopped traffic just about everywhere, according to the Boston Globe.

"I'm much older now," said O'Neal, 38, who signed a two-year, $2.8-million deal with the Celtics this summer. "This [Celtics] team is good with or without me. Sometimes, in order to win, you have to sacrifice. I don't mind sacrificing. At the end of the day, it's all about winning.

"I'm going to do what I'm told to do. Whatever they need me to do. I'm not in a position to cause trouble or cause a ruckus. The reason why younger in my career I acted a fool is because they made me the CEO. If I'm the CEO and I'm getting all the blame, we're going to start doing it my way."

The Lakers will play the Celtics at Staples Center on Jan. 30, and in Boston on Feb. 10. I wonder how high the ticket-scalping prices go?

-- Barry Stavro

Photo: Shaquille O'Neal meets reporters after signing with the Boston Celtics. Credit: Brian Snyder /Reuters

 
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The Big Lie.

Pardon me if I don't believe a thing he says. Historically it's about the money with Shaq. Yeah, he signed for less in Boston, but let's be realistic. The leopard is not changing his spots. He's merely dressed in camo now, disguising the fact that the C's are probably the only team desperate enough for inside presence to hire him.

If his jersey hangs from the rafters in Staples I will be sorely disappointed.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Shaq, Jon K. - both will say anything to get attention, but one has four rings and the other, well... he doesn't have much of anything does he. By the way, what's a "'Border Crossing' loser?" Is that some kind of racial slur?

I hate to be the grammar/spelling police, but troll-dude (or dudette), "forgotted?" Really? If you're going to troll, troll with pride and with spell-check, do it with grammar and grace.

Getting to the article - I kinda think Shaq will help the Celtics out if Doc Rivers uses him accordingly. It's Shaq's D that's the trouble, and right now I'm sure the "Little Excuse" (my new name for the Docster) is probably pulling his hair out trying to figure out a way to use Shaq defensively in a way that won't harm the team. I could see Shaq being useful against the Heat and the Bulls in the playoffs. Not so much against L.A. if they met in the Finals.

I love shaq I'll go where ever he goes, he's the funniest guy in the league and I love his swag. Shaunnie is crazy...CAll me shaq I'll do what ever you want, GO CELTICS!!!!

I love shaq I'll go where ever he goes, he's the funniest guy in the league and I love his swag. Shaunnie is crazy...CAll me shaq I'll do what ever you want, GO CELTICS!!!!

Never mind Shaq. Let's get back to Wilt. Here's some AMAZING footage on Wilt's shot blocking abilities. In one sequence, he blocks Kareem's sky hook .. TWICE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849_WdqJ8o8

Does all this troll/Dr. Freud nonsense ring of Eric Wright and/or DFish to anyone else?

I still don't understand why anyone listens to a work Snaq has to say. He ranks right up there with Paris Hilton and Lindsy Lohan.

Oh and Troll Boy, if you steal my handle again, at least get it right this time. Nothing for free and the Chippendale's gig was mine, not the BF's (the wife would never approve of me dating a stripper).

JR

63'er,

Nice pairing: The Big Lie and the Little Excuse.

JR

I don't remember Jon K ever being banned or admonished at all - and I've been here since 2005, and back then he posted under his full name

He's been known to post over at the Clippers blog and extol the virtues of dit dat jao, but that's about it

KobeMVP888 - yeah, Wilt could get up there with control. Russell was even better at controlling the "tap" after the block. Russ was ungodly at tipping it to his own man. Nate Thurmond (love that player) was also another amazing shot blocker. That's why, as much as I think D. Howard's got some good game, he's still less than the Wilts and Thurmonds even in the D department (don't get me started on Howard's lack of offensive moves).

You newcomers better be careful...

Jon K has also been known to unleash the bio chrono weapon. He might just turn it on the summer trolls

I remember when people called Jon K. a racist because he didn't like Sun Yue.

I found that debate so funny and amusing. Especially's Jon K's reaction.

And wait a minute - Shaq admits that he purposely feuded because he would take the blame if he didn't?
Does this explain why he was fairly stand-up from 96-99 when his team kept losing? Does this explain why he was such a pain from 2001-2004 when his team was winning??

CEO huh?

Dude, get over yourself, because the more you talk, the more we see you for who you are and it ain't pretty

Tim-4-Show:

I've always wondered if the Bio-Chrono was a pin point weapon or one of mass destruction. I've seen entire teams choke after a brief exposure, but did he have to hit them one at a time?

I would hate to become collateral damage in a troll sweep...ya know?

JR

LOL!

Those posts above are not mine.

Go Lakers!
Go Team USA!
Go Padres!

JON K. HAS NEVER BEEN BANNED FROM LAKERS BLOG. You people accusing him otherwise are liars.


He and I may disagree on many issues. But Jon K. is a true Laker fanatic and a proud member of the Lakers Blog Patriarchy and I will defend his name.


September 7th can't come fast enough!

"Boo" on the Snaq story during OUR offseason.

"Boo" on the trolls.

"Boo" on newcomers.

"Boo" on trashing Jon K., et al.

No Mamba24, no justa, no LakerTom, no MM, no Edwin, no fun.

See you when the real season starts, y'all.

DBDH

utzworld - the BANNER HOLDER or anyone else defending this little racist Jon K, you can tell by the sh-t he write. Hide behind being a Lakers fan, little BIT_H.

Jon K: glad you are still around. This blog has been losing people left and right, it's nice to see that at least some of the knowledgeable regulars are still here.

- - -

I've gotta say, for the most part trolls offer a bit of amusement. They're like ants on a counter, when there are a couple of them sometimes you just let them roam, occasionally you feel like smushing them like the ants they are.

For the most part, they seem to come in a couple of varieties, those that root for another team (not much problem there, those are the tiny black ants, sometimes a red ant), those that hate Kobe - but secretly wish he played for their fave team (the bigger black ants, those are mildly amusing to squash), and those that are semi-Laker fans and have to call out everyone and their mother after a loss (those are the red fire ants, those are really fun to smunch).

I go from annoyed/amused though after every close loss when the trolls come out of the woodwork. If the Lakers happen to lose back-to-back games, or 2 out of 3 or something, my god watch out. I've gotta say, I especially love the 'trade Kobe' since he went 4-15 on a night. If those guys were Laker GM's, we'd have traded everyone on the team, maybe 10x over by now.

Well, back to busywork. Glad the sky isn't totally falling in on the Laker blog, and still keeping hopes that most the 'regulars' make it back for the start of preseason.

GO LAKERS!!!! GO TEAM USA!!!!!

"Sometimes, in order to win, you have to sacrifice. I don't mind sacrificing. At the end of the day, it's all about winning"

So his story has DEFINITELY changed since 2004.

I've been reading this blog for a VERY long time and I've NEVER seen where Jon K has been banned!!!I've never seen any thing that was negative from him. I'm with Don't Blame Del Harris..............This blog just isn't fun any more without the Regulars. We need MM back and the season to start so the HATERS can get back to their OWN blogs.

The trolls, haters, naysayers and ants will never go away. They were with us during the Smush/Kwame/Cook trifecta. They are still here after 3 straight Finals appearances & 2 back to back championships. Heck...they'll still be here when Kobe announces his retirement. False accusations, four letter bombs & impersonated identities: THE PRICE OF FAME...and 16 Rings!


All together Laker Nation: THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY AIN'T US!

JustLakerFan:

So you know, having any communication with Hobbitmage is like splitting ATOM and lesson in futility. I can almost envision your fate, same treatment that lakerTom, others including me have had to endure. So buyers be aware.

Happy trails!!

Horray!!! shaq "the big minimum" have spoken, let the lakers hang his jersey on the rafters of staples center... together with shaq himself.

why must we continue to obsess over and read about Shaq's a$$??????????

utzworld - the BANNER HOLDER:

With due respect, you seem to spend lot of time voicing your concerns with the trolls, you even few threads ago announced (posted) that you were not going to post until MM's return. Then, few moments later I saw you post again.

I find it very amusing. I say who needs a troll when we have folks like you for entertainment.

If I recall, even Jon K. threatened not to post but I see he too can't resist. Oh just mere mortals glutton for punishment.


THIS IS FOR THE WARRING TRIBES IN THIS POST, PLEASE LISTEN TO LAKERS BLOG'S MOTHER TERESA BELOW:

DO PEOPLE SPANK A CHEEK?

REPOST FROM MOTHER TERESA OF 21ST CENTURY:

Rather than batting an eye for an eye why not imitate Jesus if somebody spank your cheek, turn around and offer the other cheek. Any Laker fan would like to go along with his fellow fans.
Peace & back to vacation.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | August 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Old (and Blind) Hippy = Troll.

@KobeMVP888,

You've come through in the clutch, again. That was a great video of Wilt. It kinda sucks that his greatest blocks were the oldest ones (cause he was younger, of course) -- because the quality of those clips are the poorest -- when he would get high enough to just about hit his head on the rim. In one clip, he blocked a dude's tear drop. I don't think I've ever seen a player do that.

Wilt would be great even in this NBA, that is for sure. Plus, he was funamentally sound. If you look carefully, he never left the ground before the player let go of the ball, and he always set his pivot foot if he came down with the ball. He kept his head up, and he was always looking down court just in case a team mate had leaked out.

After one block, he even initiated the break himself.

People who say SnaQ would have eaten Wilt alive really need to remember what SnaQ looked like next to Hakeem, who was also fundamentally sound. Hakeem, if I remember, wiped the floor with him. SnaQ didn't figure it out until he got Phil.

Hakeem played against the Snaq that could still jump.

Thanks, KobeMVP888!

--FEARless

This blog is in shambles...someone using a banned person's handle...calling a respected member a murderer...

All you idiots trying to break up this blog...

It will not happen...like the team we honor...we will persevere...

This blog will keep on flowing...bank on it...

FEARless - yeah, Wilt was incredibly athletic and generally good at the fundamentals (hey, he was a Globetrotter). I think guards and forwards have changed somewhat since the 60's (though Walt Frazier, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson would have been great any decade), adding a little bit of size and a little bit of athleticism, but centers... I think "true" centers (not long PF's playing center) have stayed pretty much the same over the years, and fans who aren't well-versed in the older players miss a lot. Wilt would have taken Shaq's size and power personally and matched it with his own strength and quickness and athleticism. Also, those guys in the 60's played lots and lots of minutes in a game. None of this 35 minutes stuff; they'd go all 48. But that's just my 2 1/2 cents.

Boy, have Jon K. and I had our venomous disagreements in the past. But, I also have tremendous respect for the guy. I will vociferously defend his name in this venue. He is a true Laker. His has real passion for the team. His comments are actually quite well thought out and usually have some merit. His radical spacing theme makes it easier for me to skip to his remarks, which I read religiously (even if some "P" me the Heck off, sometimes).

One, since LeBraindead has slandered his own good name, Jon K has said very little about him. He has not been overbearing or obnoxious or any of those other adjectives when it comes to my posts and opinions. Even in our most heated debate (which was HOT), he did give ground (a little) and concede a point or two from my perspective.

I don't find his comments racist, I think his perceptions are different than mine, and his background is reflected in his opinions.

Plus, any Laker fan who has endured the purgatory of living in Cleveland for any length of time is OK by me.

Plus, I absolutely loved in behind-the-scenes, undercover narratives. To me, they were must reads. I will miss them.

Freud, you have much to learn from someone like Jon K.

So you may have a laundry list of things that you find at fault, I have a laundry list of things that I find make him unique.

I dig unique. I'm not quite sure, yet. But, I don't think I dig you.

--FEARless

Well said...great post FEARless...

FEARless - interesting. I never said I didn't "dig" Jon K., but when someone impersonated him I pointed out why it didn't seem to be him: spacing, self-aggrandizing style, etc. I never said he was wrong to do those things, but people immediately jumped to that conclusion. What's interesting is that no one has claimed that the points I made were untrue... even Jon K. didn't do that. He does use multiple spaces, he was wrong about Gandhi and never corrected himself, etc. People simply took the statements as attacks rather than what they were: Jon K's style of writing. For that I've been called an "idiot" and other things, and while others are cursing and calling people murderers, you take the time to single me out. You don't have to "dig" me. Doesn't matter a whole lot in the scheme of things one way or the other, but at least re-read my posts if you're in doubt.

LEWSTRS: yeah baby! We flow like a big river!

Kareem has not been a fan favorite due to his 'take care of business' personality...

He wasn't effervescence like Magic...

But any basketball purist...would list him in the top 3 centers of all time...

63 Footer,

Now, I must couch my assessment with this; SnaQ in 2000 was absolutely unstoppable. No center from any era would have had a chance. None. But, if you remember correctly, he expanded his range that season to about 12-15 feet from the rim. His little hooks were dropping with regularity from both the left and the right. He took every game as a personal challenge. And, that was the season for which he would actually hit a free-throw or two late in a game.

It was that one season for which SnaQ's legend was born.

I think I even remember him "showing" and "recovering" on a pick-and-roll, maybe even two of them that season.

He led a couple of fast breaks, and broke off a Magic Johnson "no look" pass once as well. He really should have been the league's only unanimous MVP that season.

But, every other season...nah! Wilt would have lit him up. And Russell?, don't even get me started. Russell knew how to match brains against brawn.

--FEARless

typo - effervescencent

I'm just glad the Lakers TEAM doesn't have the issues/problems/clashes that this BLOG has!

I love utzworld's message: "THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY AIN'T US!" - so true!!!!

GO LAKERS!!!!! GO TEAM USA!!!!!

LEWSTRS:

Kareem's a little like Hank Aaron for me... man just kept at such a high standard of play for so amazingly long. More than anything that impresses me. The lack of major injuries, the day-in, day-out focus.

I'm secretly hoping that Kobe will have that same longevity. I'm not sure if he can, he seems to get a little more banged up than those two did, but man, if anyone has the regimen and attention to detail, desire and focus, that would be Kobe.

THIS BLOG IS A REFLECTION OF THE STATE OF THIS WORLD:

you put people in a room, at first they are cordial and civil for few seconds, few minutes, few hours, few days and then the s...t hits the fan, all bets are off, sharks are in feeding frenzy, every one is a fair game, Barry Starvo was too on the chopping blocks, i heard complaints after complaints about Barry, no one is safe, it is a dog eat dog world, i heard instant msg on, instant msg off complaints, trolls complaints. THIS IS exactly a reflection of this world no different.

Mercy me mercy me!!


Freud, using derogatory terms to describe an individual's style does imply a negative reaction to that person. Self-aggrandizing is a word with a negative connotation.

I stand by my assessment in that at least I am correctly inferring your intent based on your own words.

I have also pointed out style points for which you used which are out of date and no longer in use. For me, I was implying that you were wrong on those points. I also enumerated those points for which I find likable and useful, which does in fact beg against your use of negative terminology to characterize his prose.

No, sir. I have refuted your points, one after another either factually or tonally, or both.

I have also stated that the jury is still out as to whether or not I "dig" you.

Maybe you should re-read my post.

--FEARless

FEARless,

That was Shaq's greatest, most focused year (and he was a Laker!), and he was pretty amazing. I just remember those Russell/Wilt match-ups, and the Kareem/Wilt match-ups, and I think Wilt or Russell or Kareem would have had their games against Shaq, even that year.

Still, if we include the 2000 season for Shaq, all those guys played at such a high level; they were all "forces of nature." Where Shaq seemed to stray a little behind, for me, was rebounding. He had his moments, but he never really cleared the glass like the oldsters. But if we did have the multi-dimensional time continuum lunchbox machine to let them all play against each other in their prime, I would be the first to doff my hat if Shaq came out on top with his 2000 performance. I'm just glad we had him during that period.

I rarely agree with Jon K..but leave him alone..sheesh..Utzworld...I appreciate you man...PLG..what's up? have people been stealing your handle? Kareem is the greatest center ever..PERIOD

JustLakerFan:

So you know, having any communication with Hobbitmage is like splitting ATOM and lesson in futility. I can almost envision your fate, same treatment that lakerTom, others including me have had to endure. So buyers be aware.

Happy trails!!

Posted by: Old Hippy | August 31, 2010 at 03:08 PM

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Right you are! No more communication from me.

Old Hippy,


"If I recall, even Jon K. threatened not to post but I see he too can't resist. Oh just mere mortals glutton for punishment."


That wasn't me. It was an imposter posing as me, which happens far more often than I'm comfortable with.


Unfortunately, over the years there has been A LOT of people who have falsely posted under my name. It's frustrating and confusing. I have no idea why the L.A. Times allows others to post under my name. They know my email address. Why don't they just link my posts to my email address? My email address is not public knowledge... BUT NOOOOO!!!! Instead I get fricking trolls posting under my name saying I'm a transvestite and crazy stuff like that. It's beyond frustrating.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Old Hippy,


"THIS BLOG IS A REFLECTION OF THE STATE OF THIS WORLD:"


Sadly, you are correct. The world is infested with real life trolls.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

FEARless,


I space as I do because if I don't on my browser everything is bunched up together and unreadable.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

FEARless,


I space as I do because if I don't on my browser everything is bunched up together and unreadable.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon K - it's that you inspire the Spartacus in people: "I am Jon K!" "No! I am Jon K!"

Tim-4-Show,


I've never been banned, but I have been reprimanded by the Kamenetzky Brothers, primarily because I would disagree with them.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Tim-4-Show,


I've never been banned, but I have been reprimanded by the Kamenetzky Brothers, primarily because I would disagree with them.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

LEWSTRS,


"This blog is in shambles...someone using a banned person's handle...calling a respected member a murderer..."


I've been away for hours. Has someone called me a murderer? If so, then banned blogger DFish is back. He would pull that crap.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

FEARless-

Thanks for the props, man! No doubt that Shaq put it all together in 1999-00, but to say that he (or anyone) would have outplayed Wilt at his peak is a stretch. Wilt may not have been as big as Shaq, but I dare say he was as strong and more athletic. He was a far superior rebounder than Shaq and, judging from the video I posted, look how quickly he timed his jump when he blocked shots! Shaq was a great shot blocker, but he never got from point A to point B and timed his blocks like Wilt did. The sequence where an older Wilt first blocked a right handed sky hook by Kareem and then blocked a left handed attempt by Kareem was mind blowing. Yes, the players in his era were by comparison smaller and inferior to the players who Shaq played against (although those clips show Wilt rejecting the likes of Kareem and Artis Gilmore), but to me Wilt is still the Babe Ruth of basketball!

KBBlitz,


Yeah, it was really weird to me that people were calling me a racist because I didn't like Sun Yue, especially considering that I was a monk in a Chinese religion and served under Chinese masters. People are freaks.


After all, I did petition for the signing of Jeremy Lin, but he decided mediocrity was better for him at Golden State.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

63 Footer,


I tend to piss a lot of people off because I make strong statements. Quite frankly, I don't really care. I'm honest with what I state and if I'm proven wrong I have zero problem admitting it and apologizing if appropriate.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Dr. Freud- thank you for responding. I was under the impression that ‘Dr Freud” was one of many different handles you have been using on the Lakers Times Blog. If it is in fact the only one you use, my apologies. I don’t exactly agree with your comments about Jon K, but Jon K is very willing to discuss himself and his detractors quite directly, so I’ll leave that between y’all.

And as for your being pompous, well, like you, I call em like I see em. Then I remind everybody, well, it’s coming…

Sonny- You are right, we have a lot of obstacles to overcome. Just like we did last year and the year before. Just makes the prize sweeter.

OLD HIPPY- perhaps it was you I was thinking of. You seem to have a fetish for multiple handles. BTW, you didn’t like it when someone ‘impersonated’ you, but you seem to accept without thinking that everything that has ‘Jon K’ written at the bottom was by Jon K. Perhaps some more discerning, close reading is in order.

You do have one thing right. This blog and the world do certainly seem to feature a lot of different opinions. It’s a shame when you can’t get past a single statement by somebody to see them as a person, or when you hide who you are and attack people without trying to take a risk and say something useful on your own.

WHAT A WAY TO START THE DAY

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE

GO LAKERS!

I'm sure most die-hard NBA fans remember that a couple of years ago Steve Nash said he was not going to resign with Phoenix if the Suns kept Shaq and the next thing we knew he was gone and he signed with Cleveland. Most people have figured out what the Lakers did a long time ago, that there are two Shaq's--the one he portrays to the media and the public--the happy and funny, easy-going and sometimes witty guy and Shaq the teammate--who's ego still demands too many touches and who many times causes more discord in the locker room than his contributions are worth.

So at the end of the day, considering Doc Rivers whiny comments about how his starting five are still undefeated (on his PlayStation3 at least), I'm actually glad that Shaq signed with the Celtics, as it couldn't happen to a "nicer" team.

If you want the championship, take it from us, we'll be waiting.

Because 16 is not enough.

P.S. I've been a hard-core Laker fan since 1979 and I thought this blog was a place for Laker fans to talk BASKETBALL without insults or racial slurs, what gives?

At the end of the day, the insults always say more about you than about the person you are offending.

For the love of God can we PLEASE get some Lakers news so we don't all tear each other apart in writhing fits of Lakeraholic withdrawl?!?!?!?!


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon K.,

I was joking about the Spartacus thing (to paraphrase Justa: "I'm funny dammit!"); I wasn't asking for an explanation. No need for one.

Jon K:

You wrote:

Old Hippy,


"If I recall, even Jon K. threatened not to post but I see he too can't resist. Oh just mere mortals glutton for punishment."


That wasn't me. It was an imposter posing as me, which happens far more often than I'm comfortable with.

Response:

Sorry, and thanks for the clarification, no harm no foul :).


phred:

I have never communicated with you before, always scroll past your post, no offense. By the way, have never attacked anyone but find posts from others very amusing and not to mention the raging battles that ensue there after.

In your own words its all about love boy!!

JustaLakerFan:

Caution, just so you know Phred, hobbitmage and KBblitz are cut from the same cloth, remember to use the scroll button when in doubt. I am sure I will take the flak for this from blog's bullies, grrrrrrrr!!!

Hang in there guys. A lot of regulars will return when MM returns, and not a second before. I just won't take the substandarsd product the Times is putting out with guys like BS at the helm.

Meanwhile...a nice, live chat:

http://www.lakerholics.chatango.com/

Wes

55 rebounds in a game, unthinkable just for the effort required...
Wilt had every shot in the book, dunks, a sweet bank shot and the finger roll was money and unstoppable. Mr. Chamberlain would have destroyed the league even today and that includes Shaq. Wilt was a shadow of his former self by the time he came to the Lakers and he still averaged 18 rebounds per game and shot over .700 from the field in his last season before retiring!


more Wilt film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6k539HSbXM&feature=fvw


the thing is, there's not a lot of good footage of Wilt in his prime still available, so the youngsters only have recent players to compare to, but Wilt played every facet of the game. he wasn't just a big guy, he was graceful, coordinated and an athlete.

reading is fundamental.

http://www.latimes.com/services/site/lat-terms,0,6713384.htmlstory

User Content Screening and Removal. You acknowledge that latimes.com and/or its designees may or may not pre-screen User Content, and shall have the right (but not the obligation), in their sole discretion, to move, remove, block, edit, or refuse any User Content for any reason, including without limitation that such User Content violates these Terms of Service or is otherwise objectionable.

so. i think this statement is pretty clear on how the LA Times feels about
the ability to address posts on this blog. I think it's pretty clear that
sole discretion and discriminate are synonyms....

Glad we're not debating this.

I believe that a bit of levity is called for here...

Confucius Say:

"He who goes to bed with itchy butt, wakes up with smelly finger"

Life is too short to be angry, especially on an internet blog...

BUT... It's better to be pissed off than pissed on... but that depends on what you pay for... =D

HalosAnt: Confucius Say "He who goes to bed with itchy butt, wakes up with smelly finger"

I knew there was a reason we learned about him in school. Sheer brilliance...

Old Hippy- Sounds like you are very particular with who you read. Bravo. Way too many people jibber jabbering about themselves on here, expecting anyone to give a crap. Scroll on by. Who do you read, by the way? You seem to dislike most of the people who post comments here, so you must be able to zip right through the comments section. Good for you, lots of more productive ways to spend one’s life.

Sorry you feel bullied, perhaps you should not spend so much time worrying about what random strangers on the internet say about you. If you feel bullied by me, I can only apologize and assure you I do in fact love everybody on here.

Oh, and I thank you for comparing me to great bloggers and intelligent basketball fans Blitz and hobbitmage. Like many of us, they have a lot of themselves invested in this blog and I think perhaps it is good to respect their feelings.

Also, as I mentioned in my post to Dr Freud above, there are a few people on this blog who post under multiple random handles and say mean things about other people, I don’t like it when people do that. If you aren’t one of these, my apologies.

Halos- a good reminder about personal hygiene. thanks.

Phred,

Apologies accepted and all is good, no harm no foul.

Some suggestions for some new threads...


Derek Fisher is speaking for the fricken Saints to start the season.


Injury updates for Luke, Andrew, Kobe.


Updates on any interesting training regimens our players are doing this offseason.


Anything Thriller is doing. Thriller HAS to be doing something interesting. He has to be.


Caracter and Ebanks have to be working their butts off right now. They're rookies who have been signed to a three-peat destined team. What are they up to?


How is Phil Jackson spending his offseason?


How is Tex Winter's health? I'm sure an email to Roland Lazenby would get this information... and a lot more.


I'm sure LeCreep is doing something annoying. He must be.


So, IS Magic serious about buying the Pistons? Does he have that kind of money? Are the Pistons up for sale? What happens to his 5% in the Lakers?


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar did yoga to extend his career. Are any of present Lakers following his example?


Laker players nutritional regimens. I know Theo Ratliff is way into minerals. That's interesting, to me at least.


What other side businesses do our Laker players own? I know Lamar has a t-shirt company. I don't know much else.


Spotlights on the careers of famous Lakers (Gail Goodrich!) and their contributions to basketball and the Lakers franchise.


Where are they now? Players like Mitch Richmond, Mike Penberthy, Mark Madsen, Vlade Divac, Bob McAdoo, etc. What are they doing with their lives now?


The Lakers/UCLA connection. A lot of former Bruins have been Lakers.


The blogosphere itself. How conscious is the Lakers organization of what is being said about it in cyberspace.


Just some suggestions...


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Also, PLEASE, {PLEASE!!!} no more threads about the fricken Celtics!


Anything but that.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K- you are in good form today.

mud,


Wilt Chamberlain was practically from another planet. His stats boggle the mind.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

I got answers for some of them:

Derek Fisher is speaking for the fricken Saints to start the season.

***** He's the basketball equivalent of Tony Robbins... I wish the Niners would have thought of it first.

Injury updates for Luke, Andrew, Kobe.

***** Luke: Lyin' in a beanbag, smokin' a lil sumpin', sumpin', listening to The Greatful Dead... Andrew: Chillaxin' at Hugh's Mansion gettin some knee "therapy" with the bunnies... Kobe: (See my earlier post a few threads back about what he's doing with that finger of his...)


Updates on any interesting training regimens our players are doing this offseason.

***** It's interesting you should ask...

Anything Thriller is doing. Thriller HAS to be doing something interesting. He has to be.

***** He says he's staying of Twitter for the next 2 months. It'll be interesting to seee if he sticks with that.

Caracter and Ebanks have to be working their butts off right now. They're rookies who have been signed to a three-peat destined team. What are they up to?

***** They are working their butts off to make sure that they're ready for the upcoming "Destined 3-Peat Season"

How is Phil Jackson spending his offseason?

***** Lyin' in a beanbag, smokin' a lil sumpin', sumpin', listening to The Greatful Dead...

How is Tex Winter's health? I'm sure an email to Roland Lazenby would get this information... and a lot more.

***** What's an e-mail?

I'm sure LeCreep is doing something annoying. He must be.

***** Yup he sure is. You could make something up that would be totally unbelievable and you still wouldn't be too far from the truth. You already know this Jon.

So, IS Magic serious about buying the Pistons? Does he have that kind of money? Are the Pistons up for sale? What happens to his 5% in the Lakers?

***** Man I sure hope not. He may not have that kind of money but I'm sure he has some other investors to back him. The 5% will be offered to Kobe along with an additional 15% because he's such a swell guy.

Kareem Abdul-Jabaar did yoga to extend his career. Are any of present Lakers following his example?

***** No way buddy... pilates and zumba it is.

Laker players nutritional regimens. I know Theo Ratliff is way into minerals. That's interesting, to me at least.

***** Kobe eats rusty nails and broken glass. Or at least I think he does.

What other side businesses do our Laker players own? I know Lamar has a t-shirt company. I don't know much else.

***** Pau Gasol owns a bull fighting ring in Spain... There's a darkside to everybody. OK he drapes the bulls with velcroe and the horns have padding and the Matadors use velcroe tipped spears... not so dark afterall...

Spotlights on the careers of famous Lakers (Gail Goodrich!) and their contributions to basketball and the Lakers franchise.


Where are they now? Players like Mitch Richmond, Mike Penberthy, Mark Madsen, Vlade Divac, Bob McAdoo, etc. What are they doing with their lives now?


The Lakers/UCLA connection. A lot of former Bruins have been Lakers.


The blogosphere itself. How conscious is the Lakers organization of what is being said about it in cyberspace.


**** I ran out of time for the rest...


as far as i'm concerned, impersonating another blogger is the lowest of the low. lower than any insect that i might accidentally step on. impersonating a well-respected blogger like Jon K. is even lower.
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what i have always loved about the LA Times blog is that it seemed there were always very intelligent and knowledgeable bloggers on here. the travesty it has become really makes me shake my head.
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(kudos to the regulars for sticking it out, esp. jon k.)

I've got a new slogan that all well-meaning members of this blog community should live by:

Use the scroll, kill the troll.

Good evening Lakers fans,

I've been keeping up with the, well, umm, lively banter today. It does appear Jon K. was attacked by a couple of commenters. I removed those comments earlier today and took note of e-mail addresses and IP addresses in case it happens again as I try to help keep the blog chugging along in Mark Medina's absence. Like you, I really miss that crazy kid.

For those of you keeping it clean and on the up and up, I appreciate it. I agree with some in here that it appears people use the blog simply to attack the opinions of others. Unfortunately, you're going to get that in an open online community.

Lastly, before I get back to work on several other things that need my attention, the LA Times is no longer a publicly traded company. When billionaire real-estate magnate Sam Zell took over in a heavily leveraged buyout, we went private. Our owner, Tribune Co., is currently in Chapter 11 bankrupty court trying to sort out the particulars of paying off creditors, vendors, etc. I'm sure you can Google it to get the latest details.

Another post should be popping into view soon. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

Dan Loumena
Assistant Sports Editor

I actually agree about wilt. But I know for sure that in 2000, it would have been some battle. Except for the boards thing. In his prime, snaq would have knocked anyone off the block. It wilt used his muscle to push snaq back (thigh I doubt it), he would have hooked it in over him. Remember, that in2000 even his hook-bank was working, too.

I don't know...it would havebeen epic.

--FEARless

Snaq's problem is that he was that good for just one season. Kareem was MVP when he was like 400 years old. Who does that?

Wilt dominated for years anas years. He slowed down to otherworldly. Who does that?

Russell? He only kept winning and winning no matter what role he played; player, player-coach, coa ch, exec - didn't matter. Who does that?

Not snaq.

--FEARless

Never mind Shaq. Let's get back to Wilt. Here's some AMAZING footage on Wilt's shot blocking abilities. In one sequence, he blocks Kareem's sky hook .. TWICE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=849_WdqJ8o8

Posted by: KobeMVP888 | August 31, 2010 at 01:22 PM

MVP888 - thanks for the footage...that was some great stuff. I think I even saw Wilt get Phil at about 3:10. I think he blocked Kareem 3-4 times the first time they faced each other in the regular season. I remember Kareem (Lew then) said he had to adjust cuz Wilt had his shot timed.

Wilt also blocked 9 shots against the Bucks one game in the 72 playoffs. Boy that would've been tough choosing between him and Russ for DPOY and 1st team all defensive if they had that back in the 60's.

longtime lakerlover you sure have a short memory Shaq built the Staples Center like he said ( we won our championship in our first season at the Staples Center after 18 years being at the forum).He carried the team when Kobe had his first major injury. He caused a new NBA rule to be created for him which was never even Created for Tim duncan or any of the other centers before him except Wilt .So his legacy is secure and he deserves his 34 hangin from the rafters.He did not leave us management traded him so forget the bitterness .Remember how you felt on that sunday of game 7 of the Western conference finals against the trailblazers when he scored off that kobe lob and did that penguin walk after that basket broke the trailblazers back. I bet you were loving Shaq to death then and we even had not won the championship yet.

KobeMVP888 - yeah, Wilt could get up there with control. Russell was even better at controlling the "tap" after the block. Russ was ungodly at tipping it to his own man. Nate Thurmond (love that player) was also another amazing shot blocker. That's why, as much as I think D. Howard's got some good game, he's still less than the Wilts and Thurmonds even in the D department (don't get me started on Howard's lack of offensive moves).

Posted by: 63 Footer | August 31, 2010 at 01:30 PM

I agree that Dwight's no comparison to those guys. Thurmond may have even guarded Kareem tougher than Wilt. Possibly because Kareem wasn't as amped about playing Nate as he was Wilt.

I always felt kinda bad for Nate because after all those years with GS he was traded in 74 and the won the title the next year. Then when he went to Cleveland in 76 they were pretty close to beating Boston but couldn't quite get over the hump.

All together Laker Nation: THEY HATE US CAUSE THEY AIN'T US!

Posted by: utzworld - the BANNER HOLDER | August 31, 2010 at 02:40 PM

True dat!

To the Jon K impersonator who just filed under [email protected], yes, the system is not sophisticated enough to block spammers such as yourself. But I have your IP address now and will be on the lookout.

Dan Loumena,
Assistant Sports Editor

Don't forget Nate's BBQ restaurant up in SF. Worth it just to see him come out and say "hi." (Or it was when I went years ago.)

I'm hoping we get another slew of real "big men" in the next generation or so. It was always epic to watch those guys battle it out. It was always King Kong vs. Godzilla.

And FEARless... I believe Kareem was closer to 500 when he got his last MVP.

Starving for Laker Stuff so small fix to help out with the jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43w-1g4ngXQ

I think Wilt's only knock was that he never had that "extra gear" in the playoffs and finals like Jerry West or Russell had. He'd play great, but he didn't "go beyond" like a Jerry West would. The Logo would just go head and shoulders above his regular season stats, and Wilt (for whatever reason) didn't always do that. At least that's if my last couple of neurons remember correctly.

@mud,

Thanks for the video. Of course his greatest moves are in the b/w clips, when he was younger, but they are harder to see. :(

Plus, the video verified something that I thought I knew, Wilt did hit at least one Sky Hook in his career. So, he truly could do it all.

BTW, Kareem did alter his Sky Hook because of Wilt, to the chagrin of the rest of the league.

BTW2: Don't forget about the Alcindor Rule, outlawing dunking for the NCAA.

--FEARless

Shaq the Entertainer. Still packing in the crowds at 38 with his smile, banter, clever remarks, bravado, and wit. All this publicity for the Celtics, for $1.3 million a year.

Shaq's number should be retired at Staples center. If Wilt is honored, then so should Shaq be honored. Yes, Shaq, in his own words, acted like a fool, and spoke like a fool, burning bridges unnecessarily. But Shaq the PLAYER led us to THREE championships!! He stunk as a "CEO," and thinking he ever even was a CEO. But he was a great Laker PLAYER.

Dan Loumena, kicking ociation and taking names.

Much love, thanks for sticking by us.

Also- Mr. Loumena, how long have you been working at the Times, and have you written for another paper before now? I could swear I have seen your byline more than once.

Hey phred (and everyone else),

I've been an editor at the L.A. Times for nearly 14 years, working everything from page design and copy editing to assignment editing for our high school desk.

If you've seen my byline, it's probably on the Fabulous Forum blog, to which I contribute each week. I broke into the business back in 1981 as a cub reporter in Oregon, but about 10 years into my career I was asked to move into editing roles at various newspapers in NorCal and SoCal, and as a young father the hours were a lot more conducive to raising a family than when I was a sports writer.

I worked about nine years in Santa Clarita, Hayward, Oakland and Stockton in main news, primarily as a news editor and also as a Page 1 designer. When I was helping run the prep desk here at The Times, former Sports Editor Bill Dwyre asked me to get involved with the dot-com operation. Now I work primarily as a web editor, doing everything from helping with the blogs to posting stories with photos and video, etc.

It's been a great ride here, although we've seen our staffing level cut in half the last 6 or 7 years. It's tough to see colleagues lose their jobs, as many of you have probably experienced.

OK, now that I've rolled out my resume, I should get back to work before Plaschke or Simers notice that their columns aren't on the website yet.

Dan Loumena
Assistant Sports Editor

Hi all: for the time being, I am only posting once a day. This is me and it's the morning when the trolls are still asleep.

Any other posts that are rude, tasteless and mean-spirited are not coming from me.

I will be back more frequently when FCM returns and restores order to this chaos.

Cheers - PLG

Shaq sucks!

please stop putting news about the big fool in our Lakers blog ...

Thank you, Dan Loumena.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


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GO LAKERS!!!


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