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Pundits predict another title for Lakers, but team falls short in player rankings

Lebronmiamiheat It’s summer, and the pundits of hoops are busy.

ESPN recently asked 93 of them: Which team wins the NBA title next June?

The Lakers topped the list, with 52 votes, followed by the Heat with 34, and in the back of the bus were the Magic (five votes), plus the Celtics and Thunder (with one each).

ESPN’s panel didn’t include ex-Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy. But earlier this month he said the Heat, with LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, is history-about-to-happen on the hardwood.

The Heat “will break the single-season win record” of 72 wins, set by Michael Jordan’s Bulls in 1995-96, Van Gundy said. “And I think they have a legit shot at the Lakers’ 33-game [winning] streak [in 1971-72] as well. And only the Lakers have even a remote shot at beating them in a playoff series. They will never lose two games in a row this year…

“There is now no good way to defend them. They are unguardable. They are indefensible. They are just too good and have added so much shooting and are so versatile that they will score at will.”

Meanwhile, Yahoo’s Kelly Dwyer ranked, from 1 to 30, the top NBA players at each position, and the Lakers didn’t fare particularly well.

His rankings of point guards start with No. 1. Chris Paul and 2. Deron Williams. His list continues to the bottom dwellers: Mike Conley, Jrue Holiday, Rodney Stuckey and Kyle Lowry (No. 30). But there’s no Derek Fisher anywhere.

Dwyer wanted to “rank players [who] will be more valuable to a hypothetical team in a vacuum. So while Derek Fisher might be more important to a triangle offense than someone like John Wall would be…come on, it’s Derek Fisher vs. John Wall.” Wall, the top pick in the NBA draft, is ranked 17th.

Other samples from his rankings:

Shooting guards: 1. Dwyane Wade. 2. Kobe Bryant.

Small forwards: 1. LeBron James. 2. Kevin Durant. No 15. Ron Artest.

Power forwards: 1. Pau Gasol. 2. Tim Duncan. 19. Lamar Odom.

Centers: 1. Dwight Howard. 2. Andrew Bogut. 5. Andrew Bynum.

Be calm; training camps start in four weeks.

--Barry Stavro

Photo: LeBron James is welcomed to Miami in July. Credit: El Nuevo Herald / MCT / Hector Gambino

 
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Hey guys - lots of regulars over at Magic Phil's live chat!

http://felipereis.com/lakerholic/

Ummm Jeff Van Gundy....what are you smoking? LMAO! Your predictions are a little far fetched to say the least....

there is a logic behind JVG prediction 'hmmm, what can I say that will get me the most attention?'

Is Jeff Van Gundy just as certain of what Miami will do this coming season as he was when he predicted Boston would win the 2010 NBA Championship? Perhaps might have better luck at picking lottery numbers.

JVG is a bum!

JVG is a bum!

Happy Sunday Blog fam.

Rankings, schmankings - it's all media hype.

Training camp starts in four weeks and USA bball will take up two weeks of that. Yahoo....keeps me busy.

Cheers - PLG

"Who is Jeff Van Gundy?"

Barry -


If you're gonna post an article about how the Lakers are favored to win again, the least you can do is post a picture of a LAKER.

Barry,

You need to get a grip, man. We have asked you over and over to stop with the a) ugly Laker pictures and b) stories that involbve teams we don't care about, and yet you still keep spewing out this trash. Have you not noticed that regulars are leaving the chat like rats form a sinking ship? What is wrong with you?

I'm not coming back here until I see MM has returned, and I can honestly say this is because of Barry specifically, and the general poor job the Times has done with this community recently.

This is not cool Barry, and I'm sure you'll agree when you lose your job.

Good luck. See you next month.

also--live chat w/Justa elsewhere!

Wes

Great news, JVG never hits a shot, LOL

...nothing quite like the usefulness of a list that "ranks players [who] will be more valuable to a hypothetical team in a vacuum" - thanks Kelly Dwyer, very helpful! Here's all anybody needs to know; 1 thru 12, the Lakers are better than anybody else - nothing else really matters, does it?

Barry,


Why are you quoting Yahoo's Kelly Dwyer? Just because you have a journalism degree and have been given a national platform doesn't mean you have any credibility with people who have actually played the game and have imperical knowledge.

Barry, the question you have to ask yourself before you print another mindless blog is "Why is there such a discrepancy between the opinion of most media heads and people who have actually played the game at the professional level"?

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/15128

Last year a panel that consisted of some media, coaches and former NBA MVP's and allstars overwhelmingly suggested that Kobe was and is the best player in basketball.................He outpolled LeBron by a nearly 2-1 margin...............DWade wasn't even close. What do they KNOW that people like Kelly Dwyer is simply clueless about? And he is consistantly clueless.


I thought to myself well maybe it's because Kobe is unpopular among the masses and that emotion clouds sound reasoning............I thought that until the latest Harris poll revealed that Kobe is the most popular athlete in America!

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/140845


I thought to myself Barry, and I don't know maybe you have some answers...............Why has the prevailing story over the summer among writers been when it's concerning Kobe his age and imminent "decline"?

Why not write a story about Kobe having an opportunity to match Jordan's 6 rings and God forbid pass him in rings and stamp his claim as the best ever?

I thought to myself..........If Kobe's problem of perception doesn't exist among the American people (i.e. Harris Poll) and he was the biggest American star at the Beijing Olympics...............from where does these constant "perceptions" derive?

I began to look at the "media" and it's composition...........the managing editors, general managers, writers etc...............who are these people and what is their background? Who is the guy that determines what the cover of Sports Illustrated will be weekly?

Who hired Kelly Dwyer and what was the hiring process? How did this guy get a national platform that influences the further dumbing down of America when he has absolutely no personal experience on his subject matter?

I checked the Professional Basketball Writers Association and looked up it's past presidents and their mission and objectives.........

http://www.insidehoops.com/pro-basketball-writers-association.shtml


Who are these people? Do they know anything about the sport they are covering? What is the background and composition of this group? What prejudices and bias do they bring to their desk..........on a daily basis?


I began to think............................


holy cow, pfunk! we got a live chat up, funk, if you want to stop by.

If Phil Jackson wins the chnapionship and decides to retire,
where will the Lakers be looking for a coach?
1. Is it going to be one of the assistants?
2. Will it be a college coach? (e.g. Tom Izzo, Rick Pittino)
3. Will the Lakers entice an existing NBA coach to jump ship (e.g. Greg Poppivch, Nate McMillan, Larry Brown,Rambis or Byron Scott)
4. A newly-mint coach? Somebody who has no coaching experience?

Remember, since 1982, only Phil Jackson might have won a championship as a rookie coach. Doc Rivers might have been the only coach who won it on the first trial.

Experience counts in the NBA as a head coach if you are considering a chance to win the championship.

Jeff van Gundy will receive a major major shock of his life when the lakers destroy the heat and it's three stoogees this coming season.

1. Miami will not get past Orlando in the east, and will probably struggle to get past Boston.

2. Dwayne Wade is most assuredly not a better shooting guard than Kobe Bryant.

is it a better feeling to accomplish a goal as the favorite or the under dog?

Jeffrey gonna eat crow....

As to who to replace PJ... I'd say that Rambis as an option would be tough, he's under contract, his team without Rubio will get better, with Rubio, maybe even mo' betta...., Byron, under contract as well...and not a triangle man, but the Buss Men want showtime back...but is the team as it is built for showtime??? No, not really. I know coaches can be bought out of their contracts, but as we saw, money can be tight, and both teams will not want to hand over their coaches to a powerhouse such as the Lakers, not without payment which would probably go over the 10 million mark, I guess, I don't know, ... that's my guess... I don't think a college coach except for Coach K. would stand a chance, and that's only because of his experiences working with pro-players with the Team U.S.A. project. I think if B.Shaw steps it up a notch he's a prime candidate. There would be very little disruptive transition. I wonder if Rick Fox has any aspirations to be an assistant coach. That would be funny, 2 ex-Celtics.....

like it's been noted here before, I think JVG's trying to put some early pressure on Miami to help out his brother - whatever it takes & he's got the platform/notoriety available to do it. seems like he's taking a page out of Phil's book. this actually sounds like the basis of one of them old kung fu movies - 2 brothers, learning under the same master, join forces to try & beat their one time teacher.
it can also probably be another (although very tiny) motivational tool for Kobe, similar to the situation between the two regarding Kobe's left.

btw, who would be the ideal choice to fully run the Lakers once the good Dr. steps down for good? which of the two, Jeannie or Jim, has the best characteristics/personality to keep the Lakers championship relevant for years to come? could they do it together, splitting everything down the middle?


JVG is just saying that to put lots of pressure on Miami..It's a typical psychological move by the coach. Now Miami HAS to live up to those expectations he set. It does nothing good for Miami and helps his brother's team Orlando and Lakers a lot more.

Is it still Summer?

Sausage head JVG along with his fat-azz emotionally unstable brother SVG are both Putzes of the highest order. We are the defending champs and are getting stronger thus we are the favorites until someone beats us...end of story.


Mark G,

Seems like this summer has lasted forever! But that's good..The Lakers need the rest!

Can I just say, I am so happy that Lamar Odom is spending a little time in Istanbul helping to anchor and co-captain Team USA in this FIBA tournament - just the kind of character building experience LO needs to get his head screwed on straight before the Lakers embark on their title defense in 2010-2011...

hmmm...do i even want to comment on this?

i guess with jvg, you never know what he's gonna say. i could've sworn that he had once said that the Lakers were surpreme and kobe was the best player in the L. but i could've hullicinated that.

never fear lakers fans, even though there are phony rankings out there like Dwyer's player rankings, this does not distort the fact that Kobe Bean Bryant is the best player in the world to shoot/dribble/hold a basketball. heck, the argument could be made that he is the best player in the world today involving a ball, period. perhaps even the best/most winningest athlete in all of sports today. (only athletes that come close to me are Tiger Woods and certain Olympians from individual sports. (and Tiger, not so much lately)

my rhetorical question to the blog and the world: if there was one last shot to win the game and your team had the ball, who do you want taking it if you could ask any person in the world? kobe, of course. who would you want defending him? kobe. case closed.

leonardbast - I'd take Kobe in the 4th quarter, but I'd take Jerry West in the final two minutes (if we're talking about the Finals).

"like it's been noted here before, I think JVG's trying to put some early pressure on Miami to help out his brother - whatever it takes & he's got the platform/notoriety available to do it. seems like he's taking a page out of Phil's book. this actually sounds like the basis of one of them old kung fu movies - 2 brothers, learning under the same master, join forces to try & beat their one time teacher.
it can also probably be another (although very tiny) motivational tool for Kobe, similar to the situation between the two regarding Kobe's left.

btw, who would be the ideal choice to fully run the Lakers once the good Dr. steps down for good? which of the two, Jeannie or Jim, has the best characteristics/personality to keep the Lakers championship relevant for years to come? could they do it together, splitting everything down the middle?

Posted by: $5footlong | August 29, 2010 at 03:58 PM"

What you said about JVG trying to prop for his brother, that's probably true...hey...now his brother has to go against Miami and their "Big-Cheat-Triangle"...
Who's going to run the Lakers??? It's going to be Jimmy. And that truly isn't fair because he hadn't done squat other than sit in on a few meetings. Stick to picking Bynum. It's a misogynistic side of Jerry Buss that will prevent Jeannie from taking the throne.
As for Kelly Dwyer the writer for Yahoo, well do a Yahoo search about this person and you'll find yourself in a meaningless loop, so where's the credibility. I have more credibility, because, I'll tell you about myself, I'll tell you more about myself than is readily accessible about Kelly Dwyer, the Yahoo Sports Analist... What is "Kelly Dwyer"?, well, Kelly Dwyer is like "Yahoo" itself...it's nothing of substance, can you hold Yahoo in your hand like a product manufactured, such as an automobile, an electronic device, something you can buy at the mall??? No, Kelly Dwyer is like Yahoo, it's all talk, no substance. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Lamar is going to need a great deal of help playing center against the other teams. The teams they have played so far have been holding back. The other 4 players are going to have to be in their opponents jersey to save Lamar's behind. Tyson Chandler and Love are only good for a few minutes at a time. Good luck Lamar. If the USA wins the tournament Lamar may actually deserve the trophy for MVP, but it will probably go to Rose. Eric Gordon has played well. Iggy also.

"... the top NBA players at each position, and the Lakers didn’t fare particularly well." What? Not fare particularly well??? Gasol #1, Kobe #2, Bynum #5, Artest #15, Odom #19 for their positions ... I would say that looks pretty darn good to me. Good enough for a THREE PEAT!!

I think Kobe is better than Wade overall. But as long as Kobe is in the Top 3, I would not argue the point.

Mark Jackson, and others, think and say that Jeff Van Gundy is often wrong, and I agree. I think the same about Charles Barkley. He is always insulting others in his broadcasting team, repeats himself too much, and if he says "God is the only expert" one more time, I will throw up all the popcorn I ate. Van Gundy is a bit of an airhead, Barkley is no expert.

"... the top NBA players at each position, and the Lakers didn’t fare particularly well." What? Not fare particularly well??? Gasol #1, Kobe #2, Bynum #5, Artest #15, Odom #19 for their positions ... I would say that looks pretty darn good to me. Good enough for a THREE PEAT!!

I think Kobe is better than Wade overall. But as long as Kobe is in the Top 3, I would not argue the point.

Mark Jackson, and others, think and say that Jeff Van Gundy is often wrong, and I agree. I think the same about Charles Barkley. He is always insulting others in his broadcasting team, repeats himself too much, and if he says "God is the only expert" one more time, I will throw up all the popcorn I ate. Van Gundy is a bit of an airhead, Barkley is no expert.

"... the top NBA players at each position, and the Lakers didn’t fare particularly well." What? Not fare particularly well??? Gasol #1, Kobe #2, Bynum #5, Artest #15, Odom #19 for their positions ... I would say that looks pretty darn good to me. Good enough for a THREE PEAT!!

I think Kobe is better than Wade overall. But as long as Kobe is in the Top 3, I would not argue the point.

Mark Jackson, and others, think and say that Jeff Van Gundy is often wrong, and I agree. I think the same about Charles Barkley. He is always insulting others in his broadcasting team, repeats himself too much, and if he says "God is the only expert" one more time, I will throw up all the popcorn I ate. Van Gundy is a bit of an airhead, Barkley is no expert.

Notice how the comparisons leave Ammo out? Too scared to think about it eh?

And what of Blake?

And also notice that the comparison does not indicate with Lamar Odom we're talking about. The real LO beats all hands down. And Pau is head and shoulders above Duncan at this point.

And Bosh cannot handle Bynum.

And it isn't altogether about the pieces. Many rock supergroups failed. It is about the chemistry of a Team. And when you add PJ into the mix, the flow must be sensational. THat is like an extra man and a match up in which we dominate wholly.

GOOOooooOOOOO LAKERS !!!

Well, I think Kelly Dwyer (a dude, for the record) is trying to stand out by saying something that isn't the obvious call. If you post 'the sky is blue, puppies are cute, and Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA, nobody will link to your article on the LaTimes Lakers blog. Well, they probably would if you wrote something really good, but Kelly Dwyer seems to have a realistic view of his own talents, so he isn't going to bank on that sort of thing.

If Phil Jackson wins the chnapionship and decides to retire,
where will the Lakers be looking for a coach?


I thought JEFF VAN GUNDY would be a good coach for the Lakers last year. But how is that possible now, that he already crowned the Miami Heat at summer time.


But if Jeff is right and Miami Heat does do what he says. Lakers should look at Van Gundy again.


Lakers had a hard time beating the old big three, the young big three is much better than the old ones in Boston. Jeff Van Gundy could have a legitimate point.


Remember BOSTON was dominating sreaking wins in 2008, 2009 before injuries start piling up for them. THE old and new BIG THREE is exact same positions PF, SF and SG...


KG, BOSH
PIERCE, LEBRON
ALLEN, WADE


JEFF VG's prediction is not far fetched considering the new big three are all in their PRIMES! Wade is a Finals MVP, Lebron is two time MVP, Bosh is top 5 PF in the league. They are defintekly without a question going to be a formidable foe for the Lakers.

BUT, until they beat the MUCH IMPROVED 2011 version of the DEFENDING CHAMPS, I say the LAKERS ARE STILL THE TEAM TO BEAT FOR SURE!!!



Bynum and Gasol will be too much for the heat to handle.


Lakers have defenders line up for Lebron and Wade..


Odom, Artest, Barnes, Kobe on Lebron James.


Kobe, Barnes, Brown, Blake on Dwayne Wade.


Mike Miller could be the big difference if he hits his 3's in the Finals. A backcourt of James, Wade, Miller in the Finals against Artest, Kobe and Fisher (knowing Phil will stay with Fish) in the 4th quarter, Mike Miller Time could be the back breaker for the Lakers.


Unless Phil adjust now with Fisher. Having option with Blake, Barnes and Odom to finish the 4th qrtr with Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Bynum, Phil should relieve Fisher of his long time duties.


Who is jeff van gundy???

Who is jeff van gundy???

Hate to say it but JVG is a NYC kinda guy, just like Phil Jackson was as a player for the Knicks and the Nets. Here's a great scenario, Jeannie Buss wins the tug of war for the power struggle of the Lakers, PJ is made vice president of something..."operations" (not the kind where you take body parts out)...and he's got total rank over JVG...could a working relationship ever kindle??? Defense would probably improve, and the Lakers would probably run the triangle as primary, pick and roll secondary, and they should be able to destroy a zone offense by now, as the passing is faster than the decision and action of the defender....

I think the problem with the Miami Threeat, is as everyone says, only one ball, and Wade and Lebron both need it, and Bosh in a way will grow to not want it.
I wanted Mike Miller but now I hope his skills fade fast. Ilgauskas won't be able to keep up with a healthy Pau or Bynum. The depth of the Lakers will win it THIS coming season.

Has the blog community come back to Earth, man I swear, I take a little vacation and everyone is looking in everyone's underwear drawer....geez, what a waste of time.

(Everyone else block this out: I want LakerTom back.)...... I don't know what straws broke the camel's back, but I respect the man. I may not always agree with him, but I respect him as much as I respect Blitz, phred, Justa, Justa's internet ex-husband, Mamba24......whose views I hold in the same regard, You all bring something different to the table, let's stay together as the Laker's of 2010-2011 bring another trophy to the mantle. (...time for a song...by John Lennon...."Power to the People!!!!")...fade out, everyone sleep on it, and think about it, September is just a few days away, Laker camp starts the 25th, I'm gonna try to go...got a month and a half off...or I may go to the airport with my AMEX card, take a look at the board and see what looks good....

Who is jeff van gundy???

Posted by: Michael | August 29, 2010 at 09:22 PM
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JVG is a guy that never gets anything right, so we're all good.

Staples 24 - You have a VERY short memory. The reason the Lakers lost to BOS in 2009 was because of injuries to Bynum and Ariza. Plain and simple. The 2010 team had problems with BOS again due to injuries. Plain and simple. A healthy Laker team will beat a healthy Celtic team. Plain and simple. Enough.

What's the difference between Humanomaly and Humanomaly (ow)?

And - on the Jim Rome show, what is meant by "war" this or "war" that?

Staples 24,
The Meat is the ultimate challenge for PJ.
A lot of people don't think PJ is the greatest coach ever because sometimes he fails on some little things (calling a crucial TO, keeping Fish as a starter, the rotation, etc). I myself questioned several things PJ did, but we all must agree that PJ sees the whole picture and does a great job.
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With that in mind, I think this season is a perfect situation for PJ to 1) Shut up his critics or 2) Validate those who don't trust his skills.
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Why? Because the Meat, thru the coach's perspective, is not a big deal. They have several flaws, there's several ways to beat them. It's up to the coach to point those holes and explore them. For a player's perspective, it's all about the match-ups and Miami have a serious hoster, to say the least. Wade, James, etc...Good players but, as a coach, I see a team with NO BIG GUYS! Remember OKC? Great team, but we beat them keeping the ball up high, w/ Bynum and Gasol. Voila'! The Meat seems to be the same. Bosh is not a center and they don't have a good one. Give the ball to Bynum and Gasol, then to Odom...What they can do? NADA.
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Sounds easy at first, but we need the coach's attitude more than ever. I hope PJ will step up and do the adjustments we need, if he does, 3-peat is ours.
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I'd like to talk about the refs too, I see almost nobody talks about them...I'll keep waiting, coz past season was like never b4.

The Lakers have a TEAM that can only get better in the next few years, even with Kobe in his 30s. The core players have played together for years. They have been to THREE STRAIGHT NBA FINALS WINNING TWO of THREE, learning a lot of what it takes to win a championship from losing the first one.

Miami has players, but are not yet a well-oiled team like the Lakers. Whether or not they can become a good team is still up in the air. After all, the top three "superstars" combined salary limits what other players they can get.

Also, with the new collective bargaining agreement, I bet that the mid-salary exemption is going away. This will limit player movement to feed the stronger teams, which are usually maxed out in cap space. This will seriously hamper Miami's attempt to build a strong team from veteran players.

The Lakers, on the other hand, are for the most part only a year older on average than the Miami players. Many Lakers are in their prime and will stay so for years. Andrew Bynum isn't even in his prime, as a center. He will get better over time. The Lakers have a much more complete and talented overall team than Miami.

The Lakers definitely have the better defense. And Defense Wins Championships. Miami doesn't have many good defensive players - only Wade and Udonis Haslem. Thus, they may have significant problems getting through Boston, the Magic, and even Chicago.

Actually I'm not too worried about the Heat. Even if David Stern puts the fix on, to get a game 7, sooner or later the refs put the whistles in their pocket and Wade and Lebron get fewer calls.

Heat are built for the regular season. Just like jack-em-up Orlando is. Gritty, defense and grindit teams have been winning lately right?

and don't forget Kobe is in the head of Wade and Lebron (roll the tape of Wade again at the playoffs even he can't make the shots Kobe does)...if its close Kobe is the alpha dog that tells the others to stand down.

BTW - flip the tables, How the Heat gonna defend the Lakers? They are probably going to be all offense... I bet over half their games they have < 42 rebounds, and <15 assists.

Heat will implode and show their immaturity, Celtics will fade..this is all preseason ticket and jersey selling. Shaq still wishes he could get another ring with Kobe.

If Lebron had a post game I might be worried...maybe...Hey lets start a fund to send entertainers to visit Lebron the night before big playoff games...

Lakerfan since '81

Actually I'm not too worried about the Heat. Even if David Stern puts the fix on, to get a game 7, sooner or later the refs put the whistles in their pocket and Wade and Lebron get fewer calls.

Heat are built for the regular season. Just like jack-em-up Orlando is. Gritty, defense and grindit teams have been winning lately right?

and don't forget Kobe is in the head of Wade and Lebron (roll the tape of Wade again at the playoffs even he can't make the shots Kobe does)...if its close Kobe is the alpha dog that tells the others to stand down.

BTW - flip the tables, How the Heat gonna defend the Lakers? They are probably going to be all offense... I bet over half their games they have < 42 rebounds, and <15 assists.

Heat will implode and show their immaturity, Celtics will fade..this is all preseason ticket and jersey selling. Shaq still wishes he could get another ring with Kobe.

If Lebron had a post game I might be worried...maybe...Hey lets start a fund to send entertainers to visit Lebron the night before big playoff games...

Lakerfan since '81

I want to bite Van Gundy in the ankle!

He is just taking orders from the boss and doing David Stern's promotional campaign...

Last time I checked the type of offense that wins the most regular season games does not translate into playoff wins, where the refs call the game differently..

So big deal if the Heat win a lot of regular season games...ask Dallas about that one.

I don't mind JVG's fearless forecast. What i DO mind is the absence of any SEPARATE POST from Mark Medina about the "death" of such a forecast upon the Miami Heat's 10th loss of the coming season.

As i expect every team to be gunning for its scalp, i say.... Miami loses its 10th game after 60 games (meaning, a 50-10 mark). I don't really care what happens after that. Why? I'm more pleased with the thought that JVG's prediction didn't come to pass. ;)

GO LAKERS!!

"What's the difference between Humanomaly and Humanomaly (ow)?

Posted by: Otis | August 29, 2010 at 09:42 PM"

Otis, sorry, it's the name I have remembered in 2 different laptops, one I leave upstairs in my bedroom, one I have downstairs and it moves from table to coffee table...sorry for any confusion. Maybe you remember it used to be "(29 minutes", my personal statement about the total number of minutes PJ played Sun Yue in '09-''10 championship year, and people slammed him, no further attacks necessary, he's where he's needed, playing for his national team, probably one of the reasons Lakers opted not to pick up th 2nd year of his contract, and I don't want to hear any more carp (fish) about he didn't have NBA game. We've suffered through Sasha for how many years and he's had 1/2 of a decent seaon and was paid how much???? "OW" is just my nickname, if I punch you what do you say??? "Ow!!!", then I say "what?", it's a dumb game, but it works.

I posted "Who is Jeff Van Gundy?"....that was a literary reference to a famous line in the book "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, read it at your leisure, I have, as well as her more reknowned "The Fountainhead" and most of her other works....."Atlas Shrugged" is about 1370 pages...Ayn Rand, a writer who is more verbose and expounding than I. In "Atlas Shrugged", the question is "Who is John Galt?"....you have to read it to understand the significance of it.

To James Katt: Not only are the Lakers in the area of age of the Miami Treat, the Triangle Offense is not the 7 Seconds or less offense of D'Antoni...if the Lakers abandon the offense in the post-PJ era, the team will need to be rebuilt a bit. We would have to trade Walton. (LOL).

One last thought for the night, I really think it is unfair to the Lakers that they have had to play every Christmas day probably for about 10 years now...Wouldn't it be better to have one prime game, and then maybe a regional interest game, instead of the NBA putting the Lakers through the same old stupid marketing of their product at the Laker's expense (of quality family time). It truly isn't fair. If you ask the non-NBA fans to name NBA teams, they could probably only name 4; the Lakers, the Celtics, the Heat, and the Magic. Wouldn't gradual exposure of the 26 other teams make for a larger audience of the NBA in the long run. Me, I'd like to see the OKC Sonics (yeah) play the Minnesota Timberwolves. What happened to the Sonic jerseys that were retired and hung on the wall in Seattle??? Payton was never honored I believe. I wonder if Clay Bennett has found a suitable site in Seattle to build a new arena yet.....what??? He never intended to??? That's unbelieveable!!!

Laker fan since '63.

Andrew Bogut #2? LOL Bynum OWNS Andrew Bogut every time they play against one another.

I like what Jeff Van Gundy is doing. He's psychologically planting these high expectations in the minds of the '3 Bendajos'. So now anything short of these expectations will be a failure. Might even start the blame game among these 'super egos'. Puts the pressure off of the Lakers so we can focus on winning.the next title.

Who cares. Most people picked Cleveland to beat the Lakers the past 2 seasons. I can't fault Van Gundy, he's entitled to his opinion, no matter how wrong he may be.

"Be calm; training camps start in four weeks."


Easy for you to say.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

taino,


"I want to bite Van Gundy in the ankle!"


It would be so much better to slam his face into a brick wall and then bathe him in bear mace. It better fits the crime.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

taino,


"I want to bite Van Gundy in the ankle!"


It would be so much better to slam his face into a brick wall and then bathe him in bear mace. It better fits the crime.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

... MM ...


:(


(dbdh)

Jon K,

Sorry to have left you out of the people who readily come to mind of bloggers who I respect. I guess I had been gone for a week or so, and when I came back it was like a damn pillow fight, and you're name wasn't in it and I didn't recall seeing any postings by you. You're in my top 6 bloggers....here...

H.

The Lakers are a great team and have *proven* it. They must be considered the favorites going into this season.

But any Lakers fan who says he/she isn't scared to death of Miami is either lying or stupid. We don't know yet how well they'll play together, but the potential of that team is immense. They put two of the four best offensive players in the league on the court, plus an athletic big man in Bosh. I'm not sure about the other parts, but it may not matter.

But back in thr day the lakers had 2 of the best 3 offensive players in West and Baylor and they lost 6 straight to the Celtics, right?

Offense is overrated

Kelly Dwyer is a Laker hater. For 2 years running he predicted Cavs as champs, because they had the best team. Then after Lebum lost both times before the finals, he says he never had the best team. That it was not his buddy's fault. He always claims the greatness of Lebum, but i think partly as a ploy to get comments.... It is ridiculous. His Laker hating reaches new highs every week.

The funniest is that he has been saying MIami heat will blow everyone out of the water. Well, if this season they don't reach the NBA finals, then what? He will say, but Jordan needed 7 seasons right.... kkkkkkkkk

Hard to take anything Jeff Van Gundy says too seriously. After all, this is the guy who was on the floor and hanging off Alonzo Mourning's leg during a playoff game.

As far as Miami goes, Dwayne Wade has already proven he can win a championship with another dominant player. With Lebron he has that other player. Bosh is just icing on the cake. I just don't expect the Lakers to pull a fade job like Dallas did the year Wade won.

Miami needs to overcome Boston before facing Lakers. Magic is good team but Vince Carter choked in a gbig game. He needs to shape up and play hard to beat Miami.

Nice to see Jeff Van Gundy waste no time in humping the Heat's leg.


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