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Updated: Lamar Odom on USA's tuneup win over Greece

Odomusa The U.S. easily defeated Greece, 87-59, in Athens on Wednesday in the team's last tuneup before the FIBA World Championship starts on Saturday in Turkey.

Lamar Odom, the only Laker on the USA squad, started and was active enough on the defensive end of the floor. In 18 minutes he got four steals and three boards. But on offensive Odom basically vanished; he didn't score and took only one shot.

Clippers guard Eric Gordon, who came off the bench, led the U.S. with 18 points.

The U.S. opens against Croatia on Saturday.

After the game, the USA team released a Q&A with Odom on how the squad looks heading into the start of the tournament:

Question: Are you using the “B Team” talk as motivation?

Odom: Always. We love to compete. We’re professionals. One of the best things about playing sports is being competitive. When someone says you can’t, it makes you more motivated.

Q: Do you think you can get better?

Odom: You can always get better individually and as a team. As a basketball player, basketball is a complete game, whether you’re shooting, passing, ball handling, free throws, shooting, you can always get better. You can get better as a team as well. What we want to do is be the best team in this upcoming tournament.

Q: Have you gotten better as a team?

Odom: Just the exhibition games made us better. This is a great way to practice, especially against someone else. We’re really pushing each other and we’re looking forward to playing in Turkey.

-- Barry Stavro

Photo: Lamar Odom in the USA's exhibition win over Spain last Sunday. Credit: AP Photo / Daniel Ochoa de Olza.

 
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Gordon has been playing quite well. That outside shot looks good!

Looks like everyone pretty much agrees about Kobe...what about Fish?

During the regular season, there were stretches where he was terrible - his shooting touch was way off, he was a step slow on defense, etc. Then, he totally redeemed himself in the postseason with his leadership and CLUTCH plays...man, there's no WAY we would have won without him.

Do you guys think he needs a certain amount of time on the court during the regular season in order to be productive during the post season or can we play Blake more to keep him fresh and hope that he's still able to come through during crunch time?

Do you remember Horry in 2003 playoffs? We probably consider him one of the most clutch performers in playoff history, but guess how many threes he made in 2003 playoffs? 2 for 38! omg! I remember that he couldn't hit the side of a barn, but I didn't realize it was that bad! I just hope something like that doesn't happen to Fish.

how bout eric gordon 18 pts.. 4 3ptrs

clippers dont deserve him.

With the amount of scorers on the team (Durant/Gordon) and playmakers (Rose/Westbrook) Odom doesn't need to do much except play defense even though 3 boards in 18 minutes isn't very much productive though he is one of their leading rebounders.

Playing for Team USA is a win win scenario for not only Odom but for the Lakers specifically Kobe. If they don't win at the very least Odom should be in better shape than years past (that boxing work outs didn't appear to help him much) and if Team USA wins then it's another year for Kobe to relax in the off season instead of playing for the Tournament of the Americas.

U-S-A!

Lamar is just playing his role for Team USA...they certainly didn't need points from him as they pummeled Greece today by a score of 87-59.

Nice to see Doc Rivers trying to rewrite history. He's completely lost any credibility in my book. Celtics just can't seem to deal with reality. Come opening night, Boston will probably give out rings because they should have won.

Just like Rondo, who spins his departure from Team USA as having "family matters" to attend to. The real deal is that Curry and Gordon are much better fits for the international game because they can actually shoot the ball from the field and the free throw line. I love it! Doc whining and li'l Rondo being kicked to the curb!! HaHa!!

But on offensive Odom basically vanished; he didn't score and took only one shot.

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Post-game interview:

Reporter: Lamar, how do you account for your low offensive production?

Lamar: I was trying to read their defense but it was all Greek to me.

I think Eric Gordon would be a great fit for the triangle. He becomes a free agent after this year. Come on Mitch, do your thing!

Chris Sheridan, ESPN.com: Boston Celtics.

If they had had Kendrick Perkins and a healthy Rasheed Wallace in Game 7, I think they would have won at Staples. Pau Gasol was just too much for them down the stretch. But now they'll have Jermaine O'Neal, too, to check Pau in a deciding game. I still think they need to replace the departed Tony Allen, but it's a long time between now and the trade deadline.

John Hollinger, ESPN.com: Miami Heat.

While five or six other teams can present legitimate arguments, most notably the two-time defending champion Lakers, the Heat's overwhelming star power and the fact they're likely to have home-court advantage in a Finals matchup with L.A. should combine to put them over the top. If so, it could be the first of several championships for this group.

Hollinger put the Cavaliers in both years over the Lakers and looked how that turned out.

I think Eric Gordon would be a great fit for the triangle. He becomes a free agent after this year. Come on Mitch, do your thing!

Posted by: never | August 25, 2010 at 01:43 PM
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I agree. Got 3 free tickets last season for Clips x Grizs, took the family to Staples and Gordon did impress me indeed. Passing, assists, etc.
Fish is not gonna last forever, we need yet another PG, Mitch.

K Bros linked to this, interesting article. Take notes, this is how you support your argument, guys. I expect this sort of breakdown for every point argued next year.

http://butthegameison.com/blog/24570/a-look-at-pau-gasol-and-the-art-of-passing/

Just like Rondo, who spins his departure from Team USA as having "family matters" to attend to. The real deal is that Curry and Gordon are much better fits for the international game because they can actually shoot the ball from the field and the free throw line. I love it! Doc whining and li'l Rondo being kicked to the curb!! HaHa!!

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | August 25, 2010 at 01:24 PM
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My fellow Lakers/Yankees fan-atic! What's crackin'?

I just got finished reading "The Breaks of the Game" by David Halberstam, which was written in 1981, and the Celtics' history of whining, cheating, lying and revisionist history is well documented. It's amazing how Red Auerbach runs this organization even from the grave. They historically changed the game from the finesse game of the Minneapolis Lakers to the brawling style required of teams to this day if they want to win a championship. I loved reading Halberstam's account of how the Celtics players would not have fouls called on them that were called on every other player in the league. And he was as unbiased a journalist who you will ever read.

I suppose some things never change. History is truly an amazing thing that is not to be taken lightly. When a franchise like the Celtics is so accustomed to winning championships when they reach the Finals, it is their natural tendency to make excuses on the rare occasion that they lose. Meanwhile, the Lakers style of basketball, whether it was the West/Baylor teams, West/Baylor/Chamberlain teams, Showtime, Shaq-Kobe or our most recent version of Kobe & Company, has always been much more aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

Regardless, one minute Rondo is "on the bubble" (according to his OWN account) and the next minute Red Auerbach channels either Doc Rivers or Danny Ainge who proceed to call Jerry Colangelo and/or Coach K (my theory) and all of a sudden Rondo "withdraws" from Team USA for "family matters." That "family" is the Boston Celtics and this attitude permeated through Russell, Cowens, Bird and now this cast of thugs.

Everyone keeps focusing on Durant, Rose, Gay, Westbrook, etc. But does anyone realize how freaking impressive Kevin Love has been and how huge an impact he can have on a team that is REALLY small?

Let me put it this way...

Odom + Chandler today
28 minutes
6 rebounds
0 points (on 0-1 shooting)
1 ast
4 stls
1 blk
3 TO

Kevin Love today
12 minutes
12 rebounds
10 points (4-8 shooting)
1 ast
3 stls
0 blk
2 TO

If you play Kevin Love for those 28 minutes instead, his numbers would look like this
28 minutes
28 rebounds (!)
23 points
3 ast
8 stl
0 blk
5 TO

Of course his numbers wouldn't be that impressive, but I'm just making my point. I think Lamar should remain the starter at C, but Love should get minutes at both C and PF and edge out the worthless Chandler almost entirely. It would vary depending on matchups, but my starters and minute distribution would look something like this...

Rose - 25 mpg
Billups - 15 mpg
Durant - 28 mpg
Iguodala - 12 mpg
Odom - 25 mpg (all 25 at C)

Love - 25 mpg (10 at C)
Gordon - 20 mpg
Westbrook - 18 mpg
Gay - 12 mpg
Curry - 8 mpg
Granger - 8 mpg
Chandler - 5 mpg

People underestimate the value of retaining and regaining possession (i.e. defensive and offensive rebounding). It's a huge reason why the Lakers won Game 7 and is a big reason why Love should be playing bigger minutes.


John Hollinger, ESPN.com: Miami Heat.

While five or six other teams can present legitimate arguments, most notably the two-time defending champion Lakers, the Heat's overwhelming star power and the fact they're likely to have home-court advantage in a Finals matchup with L.A. should combine to put them over the top. If so, it could be the first of several championships for this group.

Posted by: Old Hippy | August 25, 2010 at 01:44 PM
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Old Hippy, this comforts me. The Lakers finished 10th and the Celtics 12th in Hollinger's power rankings last season. And he gets paid for writing the crap he writes and we don't. Now that's a laugh!

As for Sheridan, he must pleasure himself to Doc Rivers' ridiculous quotes or something. Yeesh.

to my favorite halo - can you post a link to Ron's comments?

Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 25, 2010 at 12:11 PM

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Alas, my favorite Justa, I cannot. I do not have access to Twitter @ work so I can't... so sorry.

But maybe one of the other stalwarts of our prestigious blog community can assist in this matter. It was in about 4 consecutive tweets that he blasted out earlier this morning. I'd say approx 6-7am PST (I'm in L.A. btw).

I'm always so saddened by the trolls and emphatic nay-sayers that populate the blog in the off-season and then building up to yet another Lakers championship. Saddened because after the Lakers win a championship (see the last two years), all of them just vanish. Oh, they may come back with another handle, but never do they come back to admit their mistakes, apologizing for sounding like such jackasses. So, it's like - sniff - losing friends each year. Sigh. Last year it was the "wait till KG's back; we'll win it all again" trolls. Where are they now? Gone the way of the buffalo. This year it's the "wait till Perkins is back" and "the Heat are going to win seven straight rings" trolls. I will miss you next year after we win another, because you will be... gone. (A tear rolls down my cheek.) It hurts to lose friends....

Looks like Sasha is really working hard to improve his game this summer. Having Maria as his workout partner does not hurt either:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Sasha-Vujacic-may-be-the-NBA-s-best-tennis-playe?urn=nba-264745

puddle- good to see. Love was terrible against Lithuania, and with a name like that, he should be dominant. I wish I could have watched the game, I I would be better able to judge.

63 footer- actually, there are lots of bison running around now a days. Makes great burgers. I actually speculate about what caused them to almost go extinct, and I think it is because if you shot 900 lbs of meat, you could only carry 100 lbs back to the wagon. Take two trips, people!

Sorry, it was a tragic story, and it always makes me mad.

Yeah, this is nitpicking, but I am hungry.

KobeMVP888:

I have to admit Heat does worry me a bit, after all we are talking about possibly #1 or #2 (lbj) and #3 (dwade) players in their prime. I am curious to find out as to how the Heat team is going to manifest come play time. Of course I would rather see the experiment self destruct, so the jury is out.


Puddle,

If you're trying to say the Kevin Love's Big White Stiff game is better suite to the International game loaded with Big White Stiff's, then yes, agreed.

KobeMVP888....

Always nice to touch base with someone as knowledgeable as yourself who is also a certified Celtic hater!!! jk!!

I'll definitely pick up and read "The Breaks of the Game." Mr. Halberstam was one fine writer. If you have not already read it, may I recommend "Summer of '49" by him? He details the pennant race that year between the Sawx and the Yankees with great proficiency. In it, he delves into the nuauces of individual players and the inner dynamics of that Yankee team. I swear the man must have been a fly on the wall in the Yankee clubhouse that year!

It's really sweet to see that arrogant little Rondo being taken down a peg! He and Rivers deserve each other. They're both delusional!

Justa.. If you go to the Orange County Reg/Lakers, it's in there . Also in HoopsHype.com. I love that guy!!

maybe Boston & Rondo wanted off the US team, to rest & get ready for the season & playoffs? i believe he's their best young player & come playoffs w/ all the oldies, will need him to be fresh.
hope LO can keep up throughout this coming season - he did say he was hella tired at the end of last season & yet he's out ballin competitively while reppin for the USA.

Good Afternoon Laker Fam,

Artest fires back at Doc Rivers! Tell em' RonRon! bit.ly/cL5D2t


Good Afternoon Laker Fam,

Artest fires back at Doc Rivers! Tell em' RonRon! bit.ly/cL5D2t

Sorry fam, here goes the actual link http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/ron-artest-isnt-buying-what-doc-rivers-is-selling.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks kettle!

@ KobeMVP888 | August 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Great post homey...as usual...

Thanks Nemaia,

But this article only references the first two tweets and left out the next two, which were the ones that I was alluding to earlier...

Darn you work IT Dept... let me access Twitter!!!!

But on offensive Odom basically vanished; he didn't score and took only one shot.

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Post-game interview:

Reporter: Lamar, how do you account for your low offensive production?

Lamar: I was trying to read their defense but it was all Greek to me.
Posted by: The Snake | August 25, 2010 at 01:33 PM

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Very funny serpent man...lol

out of no where, quick thought:

when Kobe won his 5th, he mentioned that he can now have dinner with Magic - i find this as funny and serious. as competitive as Magic was, i can picture him saying to Kobe at a young age - 'if you want to eat with me, you got to win as much as me' (another great motivational tool btw).
and to come full circle, i can see Magic saying 'welcome to the club' and offering to take Kobe out right after he won his latest.

jimmy...

Rondo quit before he got fired. He can't shoot.

Phred: yeah, I know. Eaten it myself. You must really be hungry.

Sorry Justa, I don't know how to post link's. My grandkids are just happy I email them! LOL

Awesome smack talk from Ron Artest's twitter to Doc Rivers. "Doc got one million excuses.. Just come back this season a take what you want..."

Theres more where that came from. Gotta love Ron. http://twitter.com/RONARTESTCOM

The thing about going back in time and healing starting centers so they can play in the NBA finals is that you don't get to fire up the time machine for one team only. If Doc gets to go back in time and heal up Perkins for the finals, then we get to stick Bynum in the same transport pod and he gets the same miracle treatement that Perkins gets. Just leave the flies out, please.

Wes

LakerFanInCowTown,


"Do you remember Horry in 2003 playoffs? We probably consider him one of the most clutch performers in playoff history, but guess how many threes he made in 2003 playoffs? 2 for 38!"


It's hard for me to blame Big Shot Rob, but his play in the 2003 playoffs is why we didn't four-peat.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

ron would totally fit in here. I would pay money to see Ron get involved in a debate on this blog, without telling us who he is for the first ten or fifteen comments.

63 footer- Probably wasn't cooked by someone who knew what they were doing. It's not cow, you have to cook it decently, you can't just throw a random cut on the Foreman grill for two minutes.

I know, cause i've tried. Actually, I must be hungry. I'll be back when I've eaten something.

why the number change Ron?” I'm not sure Maybe I should change my name What should I be? "
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His a funny guy LOL!!!!!!!

re: Rondo, i realize all that mentioned - just thought that Boston was hoping that he wouldn't make the team to make sure he's fresh & healthy. Pat Riley mentioned several years ago about how Wade should take time off from US bball because of the toll it can take - also saying something like 'why can't Kobe Bryant take his place instead'.

anyways, here's a nice article from the Deccan Herald re: Gasol -


Despite logging in with impressive performances for seven seasons at the FedEx Forum, Gasol was a relative unknown, but all that changed with the trade, which was the biggest move in NBA history until Lebron James' move to the Heat this year.

Gasol, who was brought in to fill the void left by Shaquille O' Neal's move to the Miami
Heat, guided the Lakers to the NBA Finals in 2008 -- which they lost to Boston Celtics -- and helped them add two more championships, to their already swollen overall tally of 15, in 2009 and 2010.

"That was a very big move for my career," said the 30-year-old Gasol, who was in Mumbai on Wednesday to conduct an NBA Clinic. "The move got me the championship rings. We worked really hard and it was an amalgamation of a brilliant bunch of things that made us this good,"

The three-time All-Star, known for his incredible agility and versatility on the post and drive, was confident that the Lakers will continue to dominate.

"We are working really hard to bring home another title. I'm honoured to play with Kobe (Bryant) and I think the team has become a formidable force. There are new teams and newer challenges thrown at us but I'm confident that we can work around it all," said the former Barcelona player.

To add to a list of incredible performances in the American league since his debut, Gasol played a vital cog in Spain's silver medal finish at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

"That was a brilliant feeling. It's very different from how things are in the NBA. You know to have an entire country’s hopes on your shoulders is quite a responsibility. It was a fun experience and I've enjoyed my stint with the National squad thoroughly," noted Gasol.

Talking about his experience in Mumbai, Gasol said: "This is my first time here and it's looking good. I've come here to promote the sport and that's why we got the trophy along. It's a wonderful place.

“Only in the days to come will I be able to tell you about the quality of basketball because I've not got a chance to see anything yet."

Remember when Gasol first appeared and LO was an offensive force? He was consistently great and getting over 20 rebounds a game! What happened to that LO? If we could get that guy back, we'd win 82 games this season. But apparently, for some reason, he can't even manage one such game against Greece. Ugh.

GOOOooooOOOOOO LAKERS !!!

Wes,


Don't forget that Showtime lost two Finals because of injuries; 2004 was lost due to an injury to Karl Malone; and injuries to Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor cost us Championships.


So, is Doc Rivers going to say, "Oh yeah, and the Lakers should have six more Championships that were unfairly taken away from them due to injuries!"?


I think not.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon K -

Horry is a Texas guy, with more loyalty with the Spurs and Rockets than the Lakers...

Yes he has hit many clutch shots, and has 7 rings, but he should not be a HOF player...

Do you remember Horry in 2003 playoffs? We probably consider him one of the most clutch performers in playoff history, but guess how many threes he made in 2003 playoffs? 2 for 38! omg! I remember that he couldn't hit the side of a barn, but I didn't realize it was that bad! I just hope something like that doesn't happen to Fish.
Posted by: LakerFanInCowTown | August 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM

I remember like it was yesterday. Horry was stone cold. In gm 5 with the series deadlocked 2-2 the Laker made a furious Q4 comeback from nearly 20 down keyed by Kobe. They cut the lead to 2pts with under a min left and Kobe had an open 3 from the corner...but passed to a wide open Horry for an angle 3. Big Shot Bob missed, the Lakers lost, got blew out in gm6 and we saw the tears streaming down Kobe and Fish as they left the court.

That was Horry's last yr with LA. But at least he returned the favor in 04 when he couldn't hit anything against us. The amazing thing about Horry is despite a miserable playoff in 03 and another stinker in 04...he came back in 05 and hit all the key shots in gm 5 to help SA beat the Pistons.

i know most don't agree with Charley Rosen, but what about these points:

• I absolutely, positively hate the rash of serious knee injuries that continue to strike NBA players. Back when I was playing, everybody wore simple canvas shoes and knee injuries were extremely rare. Why is this so? To find an answer, I consulted several orthopedists of my acquaintance — and their opinion was unanimous: Blame the sneakers. By fitting so snugly and being able to be laced so tightly, the boots almost totally immobilize ankles. As a result, the docs say, many of the natural ankle and foot torques that occur in the normal unfolding of a game are passed up to the next joint in line — which happens to be the knee, one of the weakest, most vulnerable joints in the body. “If one spot in your basement is leaking,” one ortho-dude explains, “and you patch that spot, the leak will invariably show up someplace else.” Yes, back in the day, we suffered occasional sprained ankles. But these are entirely preferable to torn ACLs.

• The arrogance demonstrated by too many players on and off the court. Those who believe the mistakes they happen to make are really somebody else’s fault. Or who believe they are entitled to drive as fast as their expensive cars will go and are surprised when the red lights flash in the rearview mirror. Or who say, “Don’t you know who I am?” when caught committing illegal acts. The guys who believe they are so rich and so well-known they can get away with anything. However, the real crime is they’re usually successful.

• Fans who elevate their favorite players and teams to semi-divine status and mindlessly call anybody who criticizes their heroes “haters.” You know who you are.

• Players who indulge in adolescent macho antics during games. The preeners, biceps-flexers, chest-thumpers and powder-puffers. Yes, we all saw your dunk/block/3-pointer/whatever. Yes, we all know how wonderful you are. But why not act as though dunking, shot-blocking, successful treys, etc. are things you have done before? Even worse, their common excuse for committing these foolish deeds is they’re psyching themselves up. Say what? Millionaire athletes need to act like fools to get their chops up to play in highly competitive ballgames? Nonsense. Actually, the only antic that delights me is Kevin Garnett banging his head against the padded backboard support before games. Hey, anything to get his brain cells working.

• Referees with short fuses — the ones who fail to walk away when a player or a coach protests a call. Don’t they understand the emotion required for players to compete in NBA games? A few glares, cuss words and hands waved in disgust are to be expected (and permitted) in the heat of the action. Just because the refs are runts who breathe through whistles doesn’t mean they’re infallible.

• All-Star games are bad enough — they’re like baseball games played with only three infielders and two outfielders. But all of the extra doings on the All-Star weekend are extra lame. The rookies vs. the sophomores? Come on. Who really cares? The three-point contest? Boring!! Even the dunk competition is phony and repetitious. The whole shebang is all about ratings, which is all about money. And the starting fives are voted on by the fans! (See above.) Everybody involved would be better off with three days of R&R.

• Anybody who introduces racial issues into any NBA discussion. The race card is officially defunct in the NBA, and only racists of various skin pigmentations believe otherwise.

• Teammates coming forward to bop fists with a player who misses a free throw. Say what? What’s their message? Yes, we forgive you even though you failed to convert a point we sorely needed? We still accept you as one of us? If we show our man-love you’ll be encouraged to make the next one? A kick in the pants would seem to be more appropriate.

• Abominable free-throw shooters who refuse to shoot underhanded. It’s a natural motion that’s easy to learn and master. It’s also incredibly accurate if only because the ball is always so soft on the rim. But no! It’s more manly to shoot 60 percent and lose games from the stripe than to shoot 80 percent or more — to say nothing of being trusted to be on the floor in the clutch as opposed to riding the pines.

• But what I hate the most is the possibility of a strike or lockout (or whatever it might be called) that would in any way delay and/or curtail the 2011-12 season. I mean, how much money do players need? To the rest of us hard-working slobs, there doesn’t seem to be much difference between, say, $2 million and $3 million per season, much less between $10 million and $14 million. And how many owners actually depend on their teams’ success to put food on their tables? What with the off-the-top tax cuts that the rich get anyway, along with the tax deductions allowable for business losses, will any of the owners qualify for food stamps if their teams lose money? It says here both sides are unconscionably greedy. Because the fans will ultimately pay the freight, why can’t everybody just cut all the bull and make a deal?

newmexico - no worries, girlfriend - I saw them! Gotta say that RonRon is quickly rising to the top of my "all time favorite Laker players" list! LOL!!


wes - LOL on The Fly reference. I still can't look at Jeff w/out thinking he's gonna morph any second....or puke on something... lol!

LO looks a bit above his weight....

Playing for Team USA is a win win scenario for not only Odom but for the Lakers specifically Kobe. If they don't win at the very least Odom should be in better shape than years past (that boxing work outs didn't appear to help him much) and if Team USA wins then it's another year for Kobe to relax in the off season instead of playing for the Tournament of the Americas.
Posted by: KB Blitz | August 25, 2010 at 01:12 PM
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KB Blitz - at this point in Kobe's career he's doesn't need to play any more international ball. He's got one gold medal. Why continue to add extra mileage on those knees AND show Lebron, DWade, Melo and all the rest his legendary work ethic and what it takes to strive to be the GOAT?

@ KobeMVP888 | August 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Great post homey...as usual...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | August 25, 2010 at 03:35 PM
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Lew, this is my one beef with the forum. Topics change so frequently that sometimes one's best post is left at the end of a prior post and doesn't get commented on. Otherwise, this is Lakers fan heaven!

Insta-Post, where for art thou Insta-Post?

It's 6:53 and the last post was at 4:05. This is almost worst than when the NBA finals were taped delayed.

Really? Nobody has posted here since 4? Regulators...mount up.

One last thought from Douche Rivers excuse about Perkins costing him a title...remember PJ in the huddle telling the team that the C's have "proven all year long that they know how to lose in the 4th quarter"...just keep playing and they will fold like a cheap lawn chair. That was before Perkins was out so Douche, your team performed as expected and choked down the stretch. Guess all the rah rah coaching doesn't work when your team's old tired legs are out of gas. Try beating them with their canes next time.

3 hours, 40 min without an update?

Wes

So far over 4 hours without an update.


The LAT people (without MM) have no freaking idea who we are.


HEY GUYS - WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ONES WHO KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER REMEMBERING THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE THE CUSTOMER WHAT THEY WANT. You guys are going an extremely poor job of that. I'm sure MM gave you an idea of how this place is supposed to run when he's not here. Why would you not keep that in mind? Why would you disrespect an entire community that are currently supporting you? I for one am disheartened, disgusted and otherwise extremely annoyed at how you have chosen to ignore us. Is this your company policy?? Do you not need the hits? The support? Is your "paper" doing so well you can pretend like we don't exist? Or don't matter? Shame on you.

phred,

sweety the article! I would love to see all points argued like that one.
It would stop a lot of crap from being thrown about.

htj -

No, I didn't mean to say that Kevin Love is a big white stiff OR that his game is better suited for the international game.

First of all, I know it's hard to imagine, but slow, nonathletic, white dudes can be productive in the NBA. Just ask Troy Murphy, Kevin McHale, David Lee, Chris Kaman, Mark Eaton, Brad Daugherty, Rasho Nesterovic, Rik Smits, etc.

Second of all, Kevin Love himself is far from a stiff, and is, in fact, a very productive and very underrated NBA player. He was 6th in the NBA last year in rebounding rate (1st amongst PF), despite being 6'9" - tops. Dude is a beast on the glass, both in FIBA and the NBA. He had a PER of 20.2, good for 7th amongst PF, ahead of guys like Kevin Garnett, David West, LaMarcus Aldridge, Antoine Jamison and Lamar Odom. He has a nice midrange game that has expanded out to the 3 and is a good passer. No, he's not a shot blocker, no he doesn't score in bunches and no, he doesn't dunk on people - 3 things that show athleticism and therefore make people think a player is good (Stromile Swift, Keon Clark got by for years on just 2 of the 3 and Joe Alexander got drafted on just 1 of the 3) - and yes his post game needs some refinement, but he still manages to play passable post defense and post a TS% of 55%.

I think people look at his per game numbers and aren't really wowed by them, but it's not his fault he's only playing 28 minutes per game. It's also not his fault he's playing for an atrocious T-Wolves team that is located in a small market city in America's version of Siberia. I hope people will begin to realize how good he is when his minutes go up this year (Al Jefferson will be gone) but I doubt they will. People like dunks, points, and athleticism, not rebounding, bounce passes and midrange jumpers, so he'll continue to fly under the radar.

No, I didn't mean to say that Kevin Love is a big white stiff OR that his game is better suited for the international game.

First of all, I know it's hard to imagine, but slow, nonathletic, white dudes can be productive in the NBA. Just ask Troy Murphy, Kevin McHale, David Lee, Chris Kaman, Mark Eaton, Brad Daugherty, Rasho Nesterovic, Rik Smits, etc.
Posted by: puddle | August 25, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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Puddle - some comments are not worthy of a response. Kevin Love has game..PERIOD. White, Black, Blue...whatever color...dude can play. Plus, he's only 21yrs old so he hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential.

As far as the other guys...Kevin McHale is to good to be clumped in with this group. David Lee is athletic, and Smits was also athletic for a 7-4 guy. Rasho...slightly above stiff status.

Justa - Amen! We'll see if MM's replacements take it to heart.

KB Blitz - at this point in Kobe's career he's doesn't need to play any more international ball. He's got one gold medal.
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Like he doesn't have already have one championship? He is gunning for it just like he is gunning for more accomplishments.

Did Michael Phelps stop at 1 gold medal? No he went for 7.

It's like saying Kobe should change his game to be a distributor....like if he will give up his scoring ever. Not even MJ in Washington dished 8 assists.

If he feels up to International Ball he's going to do regardless if we like it or not.

That being said the post was to reinforce the need to prevent an opportunity for Kobe not to play in international ball. If he is healthy and his country comes calling....he's going to respond like our men and women in arms: YES SIR!

So far over 4 hours without an update. The LAT people (without MM) have no freaking idea who we are.
HEY GUYS - WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ONES WHO KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER REMEMBERING THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE THE CUSTOMER WHAT THEY WANT. You guys are going an extremely poor job of that. I'm sure MM gave you an idea of how this place is supposed to run when he's not here. Why would you not keep that in mind? Why would you disrespect an entire community that are currently supporting you? I for one am disheartened, disgusted and otherwise extremely annoyed at how you have chosen to ignore us. Is this your company policy?? Do you not need the hits? The support? Is your "paper" doing so well you can pretend like we don't exist? Or don't matter? Shame on you. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 25, 2010 at 08:15 PM
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Now you people know why I am madly in love with this Lady!! Preach Justa, Preach!!!
Beauty, Brains, Feistiness and yes…OUT FREAKIN STANDING MAM!!!

First of all, I know it's hard to imagine, but slow, nonathletic, white dudes can be productive in the NBA. Just ask Troy Murphy, Kevin McHale, David Lee, Chris Kaman, Mark Eaton, Brad Daugherty, Rasho Nesterovic, Rik Smits, etc. Posted by: puddle | August 25, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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Umm Puddle my friend, I don't know if you were joking or not but I'd check again on the Brad Daugherty reference! Lol! http://tinyurl.com/2vdrnlh

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WE DEMAND INSTA POST AND DEMAND IT NOW – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – OWNER - HEY GUYS - WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ONES WHO KEEP YOU IN BUSINESS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER REMEMBERING THAT YOU SHOULD GIVE THE CUSTOMER WHAT THEY WANT. You guys are going an extremely poor job of that. I'm sure MM gave you an idea of how this place is supposed to run when he's not here. Why would you not keep that in mind? Why would you disrespect an entire community that are currently supporting you? I for one am disheartened, disgusted and otherwise extremely annoyed at how you have chosen to ignore us. Is this your company policy?? Do you not need the hits? The support? Is your "paper" doing so well you can pretend like we don't exist? Or don't matter? Shame on you. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 25, 2010 at 08:15 PM
(02) LROB – DRIIVER - It's 6:53 and the last post was at 4:05. This is almost worst than when the NBA finals were taped delayed.
(03) HALOSANT - RIDING SHOTGUN - Insta-Post, where for art thou Insta-Post? Hmm, either the world has stopped or insta-post is off...
(04) #4
(05 ) MAMBA24 – YEAHH!! WHAT SHE SAID!!!
(06) JAMIE SWEET – SECURITY CHIEF - eally? Nobody has posted here since 4? Regulators...mount up.
(07) WES - 3 hours, 40 min without an update?
(08) MAGIC PHIL - I miss insta-posting... Without insta-posting, this place is no fun... I suggest you guys to NOT FEED THE TROLLS. They'll go away eventually. If we keep feeding them, it will be a mess...like now. Think about it.
(09) YELLOWFEVER - back to moderating comments.. BOOOOOOOO!
(10) LAKERJ - It's 11:20 a.m., do you know where MM is? What happened to my earlier post on this thread? No bad content at all. Are you moderating or disentigrating?
(11) LAKERFANINCOWTOWN - What stage of Lakerholism are you in if you are going through withdrawals during the offseason and then those symptoms increase dramatically when insta-posting is turned off?
(12) JON K - EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!
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YOU MAY TAKE OUR INSTA POSTING, BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR...FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL Mamba, I'm a doof. Thanks for the correction hahahaha

LOL Mamba, I'm a doof. Thanks for the correction hahahaha
Posted by: puddle | August 26, 2010 at 10:06 AM
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Stop that! Even you Puddle, yes you are allowed to make a mistake! Although I always thought you were perfect my brother! Lol!

>>>Rondo quit before he got fired. He can't shoot.

I agree.

I said it before - international teams figured out what the Lakers figured out before the finals. Don't bother to guard Rondo further than about 10 feet out. Sag off and clog the lane and don't give him any layups or kick-out passes. He's very fast, but actually pretty easy to defend AS A TEAM.

He needs to work HARD on his shooting if he ever wants to be a truly elite player.

It's like saying Kobe should change his game to be a distributor....like if he will give up his scoring ever. Not even M.J in Washington dished 8 assists.


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