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Chuck Person added to coaching staff

The Lakers made it official on Monday, adding Chuck Person to the coaching staff for next season.

It was hardly a surprise, having been previously reported, and represented a logical step considering Person's big contribution during the season and the playoffs as a special assistant. He also was their Summer League coach in Las Vegas.

Also, for the record, the other assistants on Phil Jackson's staff are returning: Jim Cleamons, Frank Hamblen and Brian Shaw. Shaw did interview for the head coaching job with the Cavaliers earlier this summer but said he couldn't meet Cleveland's timetable.

The Lakers coaching staff is incredibly close, and practically operates on the same wavelength. Had the chance to have extended talks with most of them during the playoffs. A look back at the staff, while we're all waiting for next season.

-- Lisa Dillman

 
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LOL...we miss MM already...

So we have a headline, but no content...

Maybe it's: Lakers, Phil Jackson, Chuck Person
(fill in the rest)

No problem...I can do that...but you'll have to put me on the payroll...LOL

I noted Craig Hodges' name mentioned in the earlier piece on assistants. I believe Person filled his shooting coach slot this past season, but is Craig still on staff as a special assistant?

t_sensei -

I believe Hodges has been a special assistant with the Lakers since 2005 and that yes, he is still employed by the Lakers.

So what do we call the Craig Hodges, Jim Cleamons, and i even see Tex Winters hanging around after his announced retirement. This is how the Lakers are heads and shoulders about any other franchise. They not only pay their players, but they also pay to double their coaches, their trainers, their equipment,..............

Lewstrs,

Okay the blog came up at 7:50p, but you posted at 7:20p. Yesterday you were nearly 1,000 yrs old and today you're posting before the new post is even up. I told you what watching too many of the Sci-Fi movies would do to you.

You wouldn't know it from Lisa's post, but according to Ramona Shelbourne of ESPNLosAngeles.com, Phil has officially signed his new contract.

http://es.pn/9q0WzP

Unless Shaq does some huge pennace, like buying a whole section of seats for the LA Lakers Blog, I don't think he will ever get me and a lot of other fans back in his corner. Too bad, for he does deserve to get his jersey retired with the Lakers, for what he accomplished during the 3Peat era.

Posted by: LEWSTRS | August 02, 2010 at 08:06 PM

Shaq's jersey will definitely hangs from the rafters with the rest of the Laker greats once he retires. And the fans at the Staples will give him a rousing ovation. Count on it. And when after all the highlights and speeches that night...most of the posters here vehemently opposing his return - will also applaud another triumph day in the rich Laker tradition.

Assistant Coaches vs Special Assistant Coaches
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Hodges is a special assistant coach and while he does get a ring when the Lakers win titles like Kareem he doesn't work as much as the other assistants do in games.

Hodges works on shooting that's pretty much it. Kareem worked primarily on Bynum and any other big man who wants advice from him. Chuck Person also helped with shooting and also was the one who help keep Ron Artest in check.

Assistants Coaches are Brian Shaw, Frank Hamblem, and Jim Cleamons. Their job is to scout out other teams and directly help Coach Jackson with game plans and in game adjustments. They do more than just working with shooting or with bigs; they have lots more responsibilities (and likely get paid more than special assistants).

Chuck Persons is now a real assistant coach instead of a special assistant. Hence he will have more responsibilities than just working on shooting and helping with Artest. He's also probably going to help in in-game adjustments and also will now have the responsibility of having to scout a group of teams that Coach Jackson will assign him to. Hence a difference between his special assistant to now being a real assistant on the coaching staff.

Congrats to the Rifleman on his promotion. He did a good job and will hopefully spark more good memories of him to me instead of being the man who stated "The Rifleman is coming and he's going Bird Hunting" only to be the one who Larry Bird handed a present of a 3 pointer right in front of him that Christmas Game.

Shaq is going to get his number retired in Los Angeles and you can count on that. No matter what his shenanigans was in Miami/Phoenix/Cleveland the fact he gave this franchise 3 titles and being the most dominant big man of his time made it more than a case to have #34 retired. Wilt arrived in Los Angeles during the later part of his career yet in the rafters there is a #13 on it. He only delivered 1 title to Los Angeles compared to Shaq's 3.

#34 will be retired just like #24 will be.

Cap's Goggles,

The story you posted a few threads back about the '92 Olympics and the Dream Team was fascinating stuff. One can only imagine how competitive those practices and scrimmages were between all those HOF'ers. I would pay good money to see that overtime period from the scrimmage between Magic's squad and MJ's squad. And anyone else think Kobe would relish such moments and competition?

I think Magic was right - if he hadn't retired that year, the Lakers would've had a very good shot at beating the Bulls the next year. I recall adding Sedale Threatt and a few other solid pieces to the roster. It's just a shame that Magic's career got cut short in that way...we would've had a Lakers-Bulls rivalry in the 90's.

5 coaches for 13 players? How do they fill their days? (Contrast that with one classroom teacher for 35 students.)

At the end of the day, Shaq's legacy shouldn't be about having been the most dominant big man of his time. I think his real legacy is that of wasted potential. Sure he won an MVP and has 4 rings to his name. But how many more MVPs and titles would he have won if had just 50% of Kobe's desire and work ethic? He could've easily been in the discussion for the GOAT.

Whether or not his jersey is retired at Staples, his professional legacy is one that does not garner admiration in my book.

Here is an article by Eric Pincus which explains the whole Shannon, Sasha and trade possibilities situation...I finally see the whole picture, but am torn. I really think Sasha will blossom this year, if he gets the PT, but at what cost to Dr. Buss.

Again I defer to Mitch and the Dr, but I hope we keep both Sasha and Shannon, at least till the trade deadline...

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The L.A. Lakers And The Luxury Tax
By: Eric Pincus Last Updated: 8/2/10 3:19 PM ET | 6420 times read

The Los Angeles Lakers paid out $21.4 million in luxury tax last season.

To put that in perspective, the team paid superstar guard Kobe Bryant $23.0 million and All-Star forward Pau Gasol $16.5 million.

In total, the Lakers shelled out $91.3 million to the players but with the tax, the team's total salary ballooned to $112.7 million.

As free agent guard Shannon Brown looks for an NBA contract, Laker General Manager Mitch Kupchak has to tread carefully.

Every dollar spent costs double for the Lakers.

If a team like the New Yorks Knicks were offering Shannon the remainder of their cap ($3.09 million), for L.A. to meet the price they'd be spending $6.18 million on a reserve guard.

That's $6.18 million on a player who averaged 20.7 minutes a game last season, scoring 8.1 a night on 42.7% shooting from the field and 32.8% from behind the arc. A guard who averaged 1.3 assists a game and shot just 39.3% through the postseason (28.1% from three).

That doesn't mean the Lakers shouldn't re-sign Shannon. It doesn't mean that the Lakers won't re-sign Shannon.

It's not just a simple yes to a still valuable reserve who adds athleticism to a roster that is full of quality, but aging veterans.

After re-signing Derek Fisher and luring free agents Steve Blake, Matt Barnes and Theo Ratliff, the team's total payroll has already hit $92.5 million.

Because Ratliff signed a one-year, veteran's minimum salary, the league knocks his number down from $1.4 million to $854k (reimbursing the Lakers for the $545k difference).

With the luxury tax threshold at $70.3 million and L.A.'s adjusted payroll at $91.9 million, the Lakers are already looking at a tax bill of $21.6 million.

The total, before Shannon enters the picture, is at $113.5 million (already above last year's number).

Brown at $3.09 million would push it to $119.7 million.

That's one of the reasons the Lakers have been looking to deal away Sasha Vujacic who is set to earn $5.5 million on the final year of his contract.

While Shannon didn't have a tremendous second season for the Lakers (although he filled in relatively well when Bryant sat out nine games with injury), Vujacic had an even smaller part in L.A.'s run to the title.
Yes, Sasha hit two clutch free throws to help close out Game 7 of the NBA Finals, but over the regular season he played in just 67 games at 8.6 minutes a pop. He scored 2.8 points a game while hitting 40.2% from the field and 30.9% from the arc.

In theory Vujacic is a shooter, but without regular minutes, he struggles.

Sasha's potential in a contract year isn't worth the $11.0 million the Lakers are paying on his account.

A number of teams around the league have the means to take on Vujacic's contract, be it the New Jersey Nets, Minnesota Timberwolves or the like via cap room. Some teams have large enough trade exceptions to absorb him, like the Toronto Raptors.

The Wolves have the contract of Delonte West which is only guaranteed $500k. A straight up swap, with the Lakers sending a first-round draft pick and $3 million, would save the LA $7.5 million and would cost Minnesota an additional $2 million for L.A.'s pick (likely in the 28-30 range).

The Lakers could then cut West and possibly look to re-sign him or bring on a younger prospect to develop as a fifth guard.

The difficult part for Kupchak is convincing the Nets, Wolves, Raptors and/or others that Vujacic is worth acquiring.

That may be too hard a sell.

Sources say the Lakers are more likely than not to find a compromise with Shannon despite the luxury tax hit. Kupchak himself said he remains optimistic that something can be worked out before the end of this week.

Vujacic can still be shopped through to the trade deadline.

Brown may not be worth $6 million, but this may be the Lakers best chance to catch the Boston Celtics at 17 titles.

Length of contract is also a question but Shannon may prefer a three-year deal with a player option given the below average dollar amount in discussion.

It's not time for cutting corners and team owner Dr. Jerry Buss may end up spending far more than he intended this summer . . .

Lewstrs,

Okay the blog came up at 7:50p, but you posted at 7:20p. Yesterday you were nearly 1,000 yrs old and today you're posting before the new post is even up. I told you what watching too many of the Sci-Fi movies would do to you.

Posted by: LRob | August 02, 2010 at 09:09 PM

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LRob -

It was funny and surreal...I went to next post...and all there was, was the headline and no content...The next time I checked the blog, there was no new post, just the last thread...I guess they caught the mistake and took it down, then reposted it, but kept my original post, hence the 'twilight zone' time frame...

You might be right, maybe it was a 1000 post hang over...Or could it be the work of my 2 cats....excuse me while I investigate a ray of light shining down from the sky in my back yard...

If the Lakers sign Delonte West, they might as well add yet another coach -- one with a psych. degree -- just to deal with the eccentricities of a few of the players.

Lewstrs - Thanks for the trade (aka dump) Sasha breakdown. I didn't realize Toronto could just absorb him. They pride themselves on a great international flavor so he'd be a perfect fit.

(pssst - don't tell them, but they're also a bunch of losers who are overpayed so he'd be an even more perfect fit.....)

Also would it be a bad thing to give up a low first round pick for what basically is a Sasha salary dump? Have the Lakers ever gotten anyone good with a really low first round pick since D-Fish?

Drew Bynum seems like a good low draft.

Shaq is going to get his number retired in Los Angeles and you can count on that. No matter what his shenanigans was in Miami/Phoenix/Cleveland the fact he gave this franchise 3 titles and being the most dominant big man of his time made it more than a case to have #34 retired. Wilt arrived in Los Angeles during the later part of his career yet in the rafters there is a #13 on it. He only delivered 1 title to Los Angeles compared to Shaq's 3.

#34 will be retired just like #24 will be.

Posted by: KB Blitz | August 02, 2010 at 09:30 PM
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Agreed, but shouldn't #8 AND #24 be retired? After all, Kobe was MORE than Shaq's Pippen. He was equally as important to those teams.

You know I'm just kidding about both numbers being retired, but I was thinking about your G.O.A.T. rankings. If Wilt, MJ and Russell are 1a, 1b and 1c (i.e., I am assuming they are tied for #1), then where MJ/Pippen were 1-2 on the Bulls, Shaq/Kobe were (without debate) 1-1a on the three-peat Lakers. They were recognized by most of the so-called experts as the greatest 1-2 combination in NBA history as you will recall. Logically it follows that because Kobe was a #1 on 5 championship teams, he should be elevated on your list to either 1d or 4a.

Here's my list:

1. Wilt
1a Magic
1b Kareem
1c Kobe
1d Jordan

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Wilt was Babe Ruth without all the great teams. Magic played in the era of the greatest basketball teams of all-time and went to 9 NBA Finals. There has never been a player like him before or after. He didn't revolutionize the point guard position, he carved out an all-time exception to it. Kobe has gone to 7 NBA Finals, is still writing his script, but has gone through much tougher teams than Jordan did and wasn't handed anything the way Jordan was (I know we disagree on this). Kareem won 3 high school championships, 3 college championships and 6 NBA championships and is the NBA's all-time scoring leader. He made a huge immediate impact in the NBA. As much hype as LeBron had coming out of high school, Kareem had even more hype coming out of UCLA.

Russell and Bird are in the next tier along with Jerry West, the Big O, Elgin Baylor, Tim Duncan, Shaq and and Dr. J. LeBron and Wade will infiltrate these groups and I see LeBron eventually ranked up there in the top tier.

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Frankly, I can't stand this ranking crap. Comparing eras is literally impossible and the reason I put Wilt above all is because I truly feel he would have dominated in any era, as Magic and Kareem would have. As for the tiring Kobe vs. Jordan debate, they are the same player. They are the two greatest floor players to ever play the game, with neither player having a weakness in his game. Jordan was probably stronger and had bigger hands, while Kobe has better range with his jump shot and an over all bigger assortment of shots. Defensively, IQ, work ethic, warrior mentality, clutchness and otherwise, their differences are indiscernible. I think you can safely start your all-time team with any of these 5 players. I'll go first and pick Magic.

I don't know enough about Chuck Person. More knowledge would be helpful.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

So, Phil has officially signed?


This is cause for celebration!


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Basically what Pincus said was this:

1) Sasha's contract demands he be more than just the guy who hit 2 Clutch Free-Throws at the end of Game 3 and 7. The Lakers want more (and should expect more) than that. The fact that he lost minutes to Shannon just shows how bad Sasha has been since his 07-08 season.

2) The Lakers want to get rid of salary as possible. They aren't going to get rid of Bryant/Gasol/Bynum/Odom/Artest/Fisher/Blake/Barnes/Ratliff and for Luke while a considerable amount of bloggers want him gone he will stay on salary for next season unless a trade happens. If Brown re- signs that gives Sasha almost no chance to contribute save for end of games. It don't matter what the good feelings are if the Lakers can find ways to TRIM money to be saved THEY WILL DO IT!

3) Finding takers like Erin Pincus says isn't the easiest things in the world. An expiring contract is worth a TON but it's fullest potential is when it is given to a team that is willing to shed salary. Memphis when it did the Gasol trade was the perfect example of wanting expiring contracts. USUALLY an expiring contract is given to acquire better talent. Teams that the Lakers would want to trade Sasha would be more than willing to accept Sasha's contract....if in return the Lakers would accept far longer contracts (smaller though not expiring) which is the last thing Mitch wants to do.

4) Shannon Brown should be re-signed but only for the right price. Overpaying him is just as bad for salary as much as keeping Shannon at the same price while keeping Sasha.

5) Sasha's contract can be given away at the trade deadline. That being said the Lakers would love to trade him away NOW if it means keeping Brown OR the Lakers does a 1 st Rounder+Cash to Minnesota for West and immediately waives him (only paying them $500,000 which is very cheap still), and possibly signing West to a lower salary or signing a cheaper back up SG. No matter how much Sasha knows the system...he *NEEDS* minutes to really get into a groove and being Kobe's back up at SG does not guarantee minutes. In fact the most will probably be around 13 mpg (assuming KB averages 35 to reduce his minutes). That is not enough for Sasha to get good production for a guy being paid $5 million.

We will see if Shannon does come back. If he does expect the Lakers up the trade deadline to find ways to dump Sasha's contract. If Shannon goes elsewhere the Lakers could try to get West's contract instead OR keep Sasha.

As for the tiring Kobe vs. Jordan debate, they are the same player. They are the two greatest floor players to ever play the game, with neither player having a weakness in his game. Defensively, IQ, work ethic, warrior mentality, clutchness and otherwise, their differences are indiscernible. I think you can safely start your all-time team with any of these 5 players. I'll go first and pick Magic.
Posted by: KobeMVP888 | August 02, 2010 at 10:55 PM

KobeMVP888 - All the attributes you mentioned above also apply for the Logo. And Jerry himself said Big O was the greatest. Now I agree that my rankings would have MJ and Kobe over both of them but I'm just saying Jerry and Oscar didn't have any weaknesses either.

All I know about Chuck Person is...his nickname was the 'Rifleman'...

I remember this, for the show Rifleman was one of my favorites during my childhood...ironically, while doing the 1000 post marathon...Chuck Tanner was in a movie with Gregory Peck on TV, on AMC...

Person from what I remember was the 'sharp shooter' at that time...and he did have a quick release and an accurate shot...

He did help Kobe with an adjustment with his shot, due to the splint, and Kobe seemed pleased, and felt like it worked...

I think he could be an asset with the 2 new rookies and even Artest and Odom...

Bottom line, Dr. Buss spends again to make sure the players have all the tools necessary to perform...

Jon K - Chuck Connors Person aka the Rifleman (you can guess where he got his nickname from and it wasn't from Bat Masterson) was a 18-20 pt scorer for a 6-7 yr stretch with Pacers in late 80's early 90's. His calling card was hit outside shot. Good offensive player, not much on defensive end. Was not shy on the court. He would definitely talk to opponents and let them know about his exploits. Had a good shoot out and smack talking session with Larry Legend during a playoff series at the end of Bird's career. Out course, Indiana lost but Person wasn't afraid to talk smack and Bird complimented him for not backing down.

KobeMVP888,


"Frankly, I can't stand this ranking crap. Comparing eras is literally impossible "


That's because you are an intelligent man, but, dude, you're going to have to get used to it. It ain't going away.


This ranking stuff is basically the same as two dorks saying "Bat Man would TOTALLY beat Daredevil in a fight! TOTALLY!"


It's arguing at its more entertainingly banal, but its a basic human impulse.


I think it can be argued that certain players should be reserved for a elite pantheon of Greatness that separates them from all other levels of players, but lets be frank--realistically speaking--(even though I've attributed this title to Kobe) there is no Greatest Player of All Time. That's an idea that doesn't exist in reality.


There are Greatest PLAYERS of All Time, but that's it and, oh yeah, Kobe is one of them.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

LRob,


Thanks for the info.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

There may be some good news (or bad news), depending on which side of the fence you're on. My friend mentioned that she saw Luke and Jordan playing volleyball at Manhattan Beach this past weekend. So if Luke is healthy enough to be playing beach volleyball right now, he's gotta be ready to play when the season starts!

With a healthy Luke, there's no stopping us. Why? Because he's Luke Fricken Walton.*

*credit to Jon K.

Speaking of Chuck Connors, (the original - not Chuck Connors Person) not only was he in one of Lewstrs favorite Western TV shows, but he was also one of the few that played professional baseball and basketball. He played a couple of seasons for the Celtics. Not sure who he played for in MLB.

Kobe doesn't have any weaknesses? Everybody has weaknesses. Kobe has built his strengths up to compensate, and learned not to let his weaknesses hurt him. This is way more impressive.

I find it odd, that Jordy would be in So Cal playing beach volleyball with Luke...

I know the old bench mob were tight, but shouldn't he be in New Jersey looking for a house...and I thought I read somewhere, that he was expecting a baby...

I dunno, maybe it's just me, but having all your personal matters in order at the beginning of the season, would be logical, so you have no distractions while you try to impress a new team and city, which will be your home for the next 3 years...

Jon K- yup, I love the comic book fight analogy to comparing eras. But seriously, I put Stan Lee, Larry Lieber, Jack Kirby and Gene Colan ahead of Bob Kane as creators, so thereby in my book, Daredevil would beat Batman.

LRob - Connors...thanks for having my back...

EJK - I'm on the happy side of the fence on Luke...

All I know about Chuck Person is...his nickname was the 'Rifleman'...

Posted by: LEWSTRS | August 02, 2010 at 11:14 PM

The Rifleman was a very good shooter in the late 80's and had a rivalry against Larry Bird in the early 90's. He talked trash quite a bit. Ranked 17th in 3 point FG made.

Imagine Rashard Lewis with more heart, more of an attitude, and simply a better overall player than Rashard is. That's the Rifleman when he played.

KBMVP888,

It's best not to think about the rankings. Simply put I could throwdown why Magic isn't good enough for GOAT status same with Larry Legend. Magic needed someone to defend PG's first was Norm Nixon then Byron Scott. The Pistons were the worst match up for Magic one reason why they went to 7 games in 1988. Bird was a great team defender but don't expect him to shut down anyone.

Simply put the top 3 could defend and Score (even Russell, Russell's average increased in the playoffs). And laid their marks in NBA history more than anyone else with Kareem being the closest (only certain things from not winning titles after Big O and before Magic is a knock). Wilt the record holder, Russell the greatest winner, and MJ the combination of both but master of neither of those two.

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http://twitter.com/NBANewsandRumor

"LeBron-Heat open @ BOS Oct 26, sources tell Y! Wiz Wall debuts Oct 27 @ ORL. Rumor is Lakers open versus Rockets in Yao's possible return."

' RT @NBANewsandRumor: An NBA Source as told NBA News and Rumors that the Miami Heat will travel to Los Angeles to play the Lakers on Chri(stmas)".

Looks like Trevor Ariza will be on the court when the Lakers raise their 16th banner.

Another Christmas with Lebron. Let's hope this year's Christmas is 1) Better officiated one and 2) If the calls again don't go positive then at least there will be no things being thrown on court (really as much as the calls were bad....did LA fans have to embarrass the Lakers by throwing foam fingers on National TV?)

For some good news on the Brown front:
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http://nbanewsandrumors.com/wordpress/2010/07/29/lakers-brown-expected-to-reach-agreement-within-a-week-barring-a-steal-by-cavaliers/

"A source tells NBA News and Rumors that the Los Angeles Lakers and guard Shannon Brown will have a deal done within a week, barring a snag by the Cleveland Cavaliers."

Looks like Shannon will be back soon enough. Looks like the Machine era is coming to an end real soon. Even if Sasha isn't traded.....Macheen won't be getting as much minutes again.

So maybe good news for Shannon.....Bad news for Machine.

And another good news:
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http://nbanewsandrumors.com/wordpress/2010/08/02/source-derrick-caracter-to-sign-with-the-lakers/

Caracter looks like will be with the Lakers. No news yet on Devin Ebanks. Lets hope those two makes this Mitch's best draft yet. Before "Bynum" comes up, remember Bynum was a lottery pick at 10th overall. Plus that draft included Ronny and Von Wafer. Even though Ronny was productive in his time in LA he really didn't have the impact as Mitch hoped he would and well it was only *ONE* year so far Wafer had worth noting and that was decent only not really great.

Enjoy!

This just shows what an ungrateful loser Lebron is. How come Big Z knows enough to write a letter to Calvs fans, but LeBron doesn't take one step in this direction. So Pathetic, LeBron:

"Big Z hopes Cleveland understands
Views 31834 Comments 258 Email Print Buzz Facebook Digg Twitter RSS Share 07:29 AM ET 08.02 | In an open letter to Cavs fans, Zydrunas Ilgauskas -- not in Comic Sans -- asked fans for their understanding as he felt he "owed it to myself" to chase the dream of a title. Although he has moved on to Miami in search of the NBA Championship that eluded him in Cleveland, former Cavs center Zydrunas Ilgauskas has not forgotten the fans or city that welcomed and supported him for the majority of his career. In an ad published in Sunday's Plain Dealer, Z thanked the fans and city for their support. While saying that Cleveland will always be his home, Ilgauskas asked for understanding as he chases his dream of a ring.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer"

Wes

"Shaq's jersey will definitely hangs from the rafters with the rest of the Laker greats once he retires. And the fans at the Staples will give him a rousing ovation. Count on it. And when after all the highlights and speeches that night...most of the posters here vehemently opposing his return - will also applaud another triumph day in the rich Laker tradition."

Unless he plays for the Sceptics...

JR

Good morning,

Just above, Wes noted Big Z's ad in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, thanking the fans of Cleveland and wondering about LeBron. Well, wonder no more. LBJ has also taken out a newspaper ad. But LBJ's is in the Akron Beacon-Journal.
It reads:

To My Family, Friends and Fans in Akron:

"For all my life, I have lived in Akron -- and for that, I am truly a lucky man.

"It was here where I first learned how to play basketball, and where I met the people who would become my lifelong friends and mentors. Their guidance, encouragement and support will always be with me.

"Akron is my home, and the central focus of my life. It's where I started, and it's where I will always come back to. You can be sure that I will continue to do everything I can for this city, which is so important to my family and me. Thank you for your love and support. You mean everything to me."

Yes, you read it right. LBJ addresses only the fans of Akron, Ohio, population 217,074. Hardly a fan base worthy of a "King." He intentionally and completely snubs the population of Cleveland, population 431,363, and official home of the Cavaliers, whose fans supported him through all seven seasons of his NBA career to date.

History is filled with tales chronicling the misdeeds of petty kings. The history of the NBA will no doubt remember the snubs of this petty "King" as well, tarnishing his legacy and revoking any claim on "greatness." The measures of a man are many, and character is the greatest measure of all.

Shaq's jersey will definitely hangs from the rafters with the rest of the Laker greats once he retires. And the fans at the Staples will give him a rousing ovation. Count on it. And when after all the highlights and speeches that night...most of the posters here vehemently opposing his return - will also applaud another triumph day in the rich Laker tradition."Jolly Rancher | August 03, 2010 at 06:42 AM
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Absolutely! Much as I now dislike Shaq, I still would not be averse to his Jersey hanging in the Rafters. He is part of Laker history, 3-peat history and Laker legend and hence cannot be denied.

History is filled with tales chronicling the misdeeds of petty kings. The history of the NBA will no doubt remember the snubs of this petty "King" as well, tarnishing his legacy and revoking any claim on "greatness." The measures of a man are many, and character is the greatest measure of all. Posted by: Rick Friedman | August 03, 2010 at 07:07 AM
GOD##@$#^^^&!!! I have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!

Good Morning Laker Nation

Rick - Thanks for the post. Lebron's people just don't get it. How can you not mention/thank Cleveland? Unbelievable.

WOTS is Lakers will open vs. Houston for the return of Yao.

Good Morning Laker Nation Rick - Thanks for the post. Lebron's people just don't get it. How can you not mention/thank Cleveland? Unbelievable. Posted by: LRob | August 03, 2010 at 07:32 AM
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Good Morning LRob, Well you see that is why you will always see Class & Rick Friedman mentioned together but...You will never, ever, never, EVER!!!! Hear Class and Princess Jimmy mentioned in the same paragraph! I was starting to feel sorry for LeBron but the more ISH that starts to come out on him...I'm seriously beginning to dislike The Princess!

THE FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE WONDERFUL COMEDIC MOMENTS FROM THE 1000+ POST MARATHON THAT MANY OF LAKER NATION MAY HAVE MISSED:

I say whoever gets the 500th post gets a kiss from justa...unless of course it's Zaira...who's with me? It's unanimous then. Somebody text justa to let her know... Posted by: CornerJ | August 01, 2010 at 06:45 AM ++++++++You think I'm not with ya. HELL YEAH!! I'M IN!! SO SAY WE ALL!!!!! Of course... a Kiss from Zaira wouldn't be a bad second choice either...HELL IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD FIRST CHOICE!! LMAO!!~! Posted by: MAMBA24 | August 01, 2010 at 06:51 AM ++++++"" Dude, if it's Zaira, I say we deserve some of that "healing" she keeps talking about...wait a minute, exactly what does she mean? Posted by: CornerJ | August 01, 2010 at 06:55 AM

MORE HEARTWARMING TALES LIKE THESE WILL BE FORTHCOMING SOON!

That 1,000 post day was the most fun I have had in a long while. I think I went a solid 12 hours before my energy gave out.

Interesting how the next morning the blog masters shut us down... who knows WHAT could have happened!

Interesting how the next morning the blog masters shut us down... who knows WHAT could have happened! Posted by: JohnnyV | August 03, 2010 at 07:57 AM
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Yes it is interesting isn't JohnnyV? And I agree it was the most fun I had in a long, long time. I am now going thru and finding some of the best moments. So how are you doing on this Fine Lakers Morning my Brother!

KBMVP888,

It's best not to think about the rankings. Simply put I could throwdown why Magic isn't good enough for GOAT status same with Larry Legend. Magic needed someone to defend PG's first was Norm Nixon then Byron Scott. The Pistons were the worst match up for Magic one reason why they went to 7 games in 1988. Bird was a great team defender but don't expect him to shut down anyone.

Simply put the top 3 could defend and Score (even Russell, Russell's average increased in the playoffs). And laid their marks in NBA history more than anyone else with Kareem being the closest (only certain things from not winning titles after Big O and before Magic is a knock). Wilt the record holder, Russell the greatest winner, and MJ the combination of both but master of neither of those two.

Posted by: KB Blitz | August 03, 2010 at 12:01 AM
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Well articulated. The most critical component to success in basketball, more so than any other sport, is developing team chemistry among your teammates. In baseball you can plug in a player to help improve the quality of the team with relative ease, at least compared to basketball. Same with football, except for the quarterback position I believe. Look what happens to teams who make trades at the trade deadline in the NBA; in the end they fail. The Mavs last season were a prime example despite adding Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood. Same with the Cavs when they added Jamison.

For that reason alone, I believe the "Who Makes His Teammates Better" category should be added to the ridiculous G.O.A.T. discussion.

That is why Magic Johnson is my first pick because he's far and away #1 in that category IMHO. There hasn't been a player in NBA history who could guard a quick point guard anyway and Magic Johnson was an underrated team defender, able to defend any position on the floor.

Things are good in JohnnyV's world today Mamba. I enjoy my mornings reading about my beloved Lakers and riding the on the coatails of your morning energy.

I must say I really enjoyed the piece that someone posted yesterday regarding Magic, Bird, and MJ's practice session on the Olympic Team. WOW!

I must say I really enjoyed the piece that someone posted yesterday regarding Magic, Bird, and MJ's practice session on the Olympic Team. WOW! Posted by: JohnnyV | August 03, 2010 at 08:09 AM
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YEah everybody liked that. That was Caps-Googles post. He said he combined two different sources and came out with that.

Good Morning Ladies and Gents, Congrats on the Rifleman as an asst coach now you get benifits. How many games did we win this summer? Lewstrs- That light in your back yard, "RUN" it's not your friend.

Everyone have a great Blessed day, peace.

@2Phatt, that was much, much to brief a visit sir! But never the less you also have a Blessed Lakers day sir!

First and foremost, shaq should retire...he can still market himself realitywise, and possibly steal another player/athlete's idea for a show (ask Nash). If he continues to hang on, he'll end up like iverson, complaining about playing time wherever he goes and acting out when he doesn't get it. Secondly, I'd like to see Sasha go some place where he can blossom to his potential. He clearly has a tough time sitting, and pouts when he doesn't get the minutes he feels he deserves. I don't blame him or jordan for wanting to have a larger role in his team's success. He's not going to supplant anyone in front of him depthwise. His only option was to shoot well ala kyle korver to remain a hired gun with value. He hasn't done that lately. Pesky defense usually leads to becoming a foul-magnet, as evidenced the last few years.

Congratulations, "Rifleman"!

I still remember watching the NBA on NBC (bumpa-budda-duh-da-da-dah! - John Tesh signature intro theme) back in the day and seeing the Pacers play the Knicks (ugh, white socks, black shoes?)or somebody on a Sunday afternoon. The game ended up being pretty close, and Chuck & Reggie were bombing away from downtown as usual. Towards the end of the game, Person drops a 26-foot bomb and begins to celebrate incessantly as the opponent's coach calls timeout. Chuck was screaming and yelling at no one in particular, all the while pulling double facepalms like a rocket-fueled jackhammer from Hell upon his own forehead. The dude pretty much won me over from there. I am fairly certain some form of cranial damage resulted from such unbridled enthusiasm and frontal lobe punishment.

DBDH!

Absolutely! Much as I now dislike Shaq, I still would not be averse to his Jersey hanging in the Rafters. He is part of Laker history, 3-peat history and Laker legend and hence cannot be denied.

Posted by: mamba24 | August 03, 2010 at 07:08 AM
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I never liked Shaq. Snob, Horrible FT, anoying player...
On the 3-peat, I give Kobe kudos for playing the way he did. Without Kobe, no 3-peat, even w/ Shaq.
That said, a guy that is looking to play in Boston cannot, ever have his jersey retired. Simple as that. It shows that he don't care for retiring jerseys or the Lakers, he cares about the money.

I'd rather retire TWO #24 jerseys.

On another note LCrew.....I can't help but feel sorry for poor Byron Scott. He is either unlucky, or drank too much laquit-aid...lol. He's stuck with ......cleveland!! BShaw on the other hand...said "scheduling problems prevented me from accepting the job"...to steal Mamba's line...Outstanding Sir !!! I guess timing is everything.

If Snaq signs with the Ceptics AND gets his jersey retired at Staples, I'll know that hell has frozen over and that we're all living in the twilight zone. If a monstrosity like that happens, I say we bathe that jersey in green light and during half time we get those t-shirt launching gun things, fill them with slime and fire away at it. But that's just me.

Mamba24 - why - oh why - won't you just let that Seinfeld thread die? LOL!

YEah everybody liked that. That was Caps-Googles post. He said he combined two different sources and came out with that.

Posted by: mamba24 | August 03, 2010 at 08:14 AM
I can't find it. Help Larry!

Mamba24 - why - oh why - won't you just let that Seinfeld thread die? LOL! Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 03, 2010 at 08:37 AM
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Good morning JustAnotherMambaFan(Head of the Mamba Clan)! It was with deep trepidation that I posted that, but it was just too funny especially the Zaira healing part. Lol! Sorry mam and I apologize and that will be it from me as far as any mention of that episode. By the way INCEPTION was ALL a Dream. The spinning Top had nothing to do as to if he was Awake or not. It's purpose was to determine if he was in his own dream or someone elses. The whole key to the movie is the wife! Next time you watch it, watch it from that perspective and everything will become clear. I myself have watched it 5 times. Once in the Theater and the rest on a Pristin Bootlegged copy! Lol! Thanks for not being mad about the posting...CARRY ON!

REMINDER!

The first leg of the 3-peat wouldn't have happened without Kobe Bryant. In Game 7 of the 2000 WCF, the Trailblazers were 12 minutes away from the Finals, and Kobe kept a beleaguered Lakers team in the game, barely. Take a look at the stats:

Kobe = 25 pts/ 11 reb/ 7 ast/ 4 blk

Snaq = 18 pts/ 9 reb/ 5 ast/ 1 blk

Retire Snaq's jersey? Not any time soon. I'd rather retire 3 number "8" jerseys. One for each season Kobe had to bail out the Big Bricklayer in the 4th quarter during the playoffs. Just sayin'.

DBDH!

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I found this off of Lakers.topbuzz.com, I don't know how accurate it is butit does reflect my belief that only Champions are allowed to talk about Champions! This takes place during the 1992 Olympics about a discussion between Magic and Jordan and the epic scrimmage they played.

Today, when players are asked who the best player ever is, the politic, self effacing answer is Michael Jordan. But do they really feel that way in their hearts? I doubt it. After all, men like Mikan, Russell, Oscar, Wilt, Baylor, Magic, Kareem, Kobe, Bird and others played the game at the highest level imaginable. They could do things on the court as they wanted, when they wanted. Why would they really feel any player was as good as themselves, let alone better?

What do they really think when they are alone, out of camera and microphone range? When they can express their true feelings?

That scenario played out in a most interesting fashion back in 1992 during the Dream Team assault on the Olympics. And it involved two of the greatest players in NBA history-Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

Let me set the milieu for you so we can understand the context of this confrontation and what brought it about:

At the time of 92 Olympics, the NBA hierarchy was in a state of change. The Magic-Bird era had just ended, the Jordan ascendancy was blossoming. Magic had retired two years ago, involuntarily, because of the HIV virus. He had lost his last finals to Jordan in 90. Being the competitor that he was, no doubt Magic felt that if he could have continued to play, Jerry West would have made a few tweaks the Lakers and he (Magic) would have led them back to the mountaintop, winning more championships and taking his accustomed individual place at the top of NBA totem pole. In fact, Magic still had visions of this; he intended to come back to basketball after the Olympics, a revanchist strategy that would be spiked in no small part due to Dream Team teammate Karl Malone and Phoenix Sun GM Jerry CoAngelo. So at this point, Magic, who though no longer close to the player he was in his prime, still had very formidable skills, was a prideful and disillusioned man, feeling his career had not been fulfilled and ended as it should. He felt circumstance had given Jordan what should still be his. Neither Magic nor anyone else at this time knew just how great Jordan and his bulls would become. At the time of these Olympics, Magic had to feel he was the King in forced exile from his realm.

Jordan on the other had was rising the sun. He felt that Magic and Bird were the setting sun. He had played long and hard to get where he was and wanted recognition for his accomplishments. The Dream team was seen as a final exposition and good bye tour for the two seminal greats of the NBA: Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Jordan understood this and did not begrudge the two fading legends as they received the lion’s share of the pre Olympic publicity. But in private, he wanted it understood in no uncertain terms that he was now the king of the league.

These dynamics came into play in a very intense and interesting series of events that took place during the 92 games.

One night, during a long conversation, the elephant in the room came alive. The participants where Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Ewing and erstwhile NFL pro bowl wide receiver Ahmad Rashad.
Bird posed a simple question: Which NBA team was the greatest ever?
Ewing said Russell’s Celtics with their 11 rings. Rashad countered by saying Bird’s 86 team had the greatest front line ever. Barkley agreed saying that that line was “Brutal.” Since he played against it, he should know.

Jordan replied, “You haven’t seen the greatest team of all time yet. I’m just getting started. I am going to win more championships than any of you guys. Let’s have this conversation after I am done playing.”

Magic shot back: “You are not winning five championships!”

Barkley said, “I am going to steal one from you, Michael.”

Magic became indignant, saying his 87 squad was by far the greatest in history. “Me, Kareem, Worthy, Scott and Coop would have dominated your Bulls.”

Barkley was about to speak when Bird piped up, “Quiet!! You haven’t won a thing. You have no say in this. Same with Patrick and Ahmad. Your all gone! You guys have no championships so just sit there and be quiet and maybe you will learn some things.” (As an aside, interesting comments from Bird for those who wonder why Lebron wants to win championships so bad)

At this point, Barkley, ashamed, sulked off. Ewing and Rashad stopped talking. Rashad found this conversation between Jordan, Bird and Magic fascinating and elected to stay as did Ewing.

Jordan continued to throw support to his Bull teams as the Lakers equals. Bird reminded Jordan that he used to torture Pippen till his back gave out on him the last few years.

Magic told Jordan he felt sorry for him, not have a great rival like Bird and Magic did with each other. That he had no one to measure himself against.

The conversation then switched to who was the best one on one player. Jordan immediately became aggressive again. “Give it up. You got no chance on this one. Larry, you don’t have the speed to stay with me. Magic, I can guard you, you can’t guard me. Neither of you guys can play defense like me and you can’t score like me.”

“I don’t know about that,” retorted Magic. “I could have scored more if I had wanted to. It would have been a good one.”

Jordan’s face darkened. He had not minded letting Bird and Magic get their media retirement props in the Barcelona circus tour, but in private, he wanted acknowledgement from his peers for what he was: the best in the league.

“You better give it up,” he told Magic. "I will come in your gym and drop 60 on you. Ask your friend Larry about it. You guys were great players. You did amazing things. But it is over. This is my game now.”

“Michael, don’t forget, me and Larry turned the NBA around. We ARE the NBA," countered Magic.

“I have taken it to a new level,“ retorted Jordan. “And it is not your league anymore. It’s mine!”

"You’re not there yet,” said Magic.

Bird watched this exchange silently. He detected a swagger in Jordan he had never seen before. He recognized the strain of confidence, bordering on arrogance. It was how he used to feel when he was on top of the basketball world. “There were plenty of years when I knew in my heart I was the best guy in the room,” Bird said, years later. “That night I knew in my heart it wasn’t me anymore. And it wasn’t Magic either.”

Rashad, a friend to both Magic and Michael tried to soften the ever heating rhetoric. But he could not. The conversation was becoming ugly, bordering on out of control. Jordan wanted concessions from Magic that Johnson would not provide.

“You time has passed, old man, give it up,” needled Jordan.

Finally, Bird decided to step in to stop the escalation. “Magic, stop! We had our moment. There was a time when nobody was better than you and me. But not anymore. Michael is the best now. Let’s just pass the torch and be on our way.”

That conversation was over, but not the competition.

During scrimmages, Coach Chuck Daly would always have Magic and Michael on different teams. In Magic’s view, he would stock Jordan’s crew with the superior players. He thought Daly was doing this to challenge Magic; to show him that he did not consider his HIV as a factor in his play or a reason to give him mercy or pamper him. Magic rose to the occasion, frequently leading his team to victory over Jordan's. He loved challenges like that and the fact that Daly treated him as just a player, not a sick person.

Trash talk was long and loud during the scrimmages. But one time, Magic just couldn’t resist taking a dig at Jordan who rose to the bait. During a scrimmage, Magic’s (Drexler, Robinson, Malone, Barkley) team had taken a 14-2 lead over Jordan’s (Bird, Pippen, Ewing, Mullin, Laettner) with a dizzying array of Johnson passes leading to the advantage. As he jogged back up court, Magic detoured past Jordan and said, according to sources either, “You’re getting busted,” or “Hey MJ, you better get with it.”

Jordan’s fists clinched and his face got dark. He called for the ball, drove to the basket for a dunk. “That good enough for you?” he asked.

Pippen immediately perked up when he recognized the signs on Jordan’s face and his demeanor.

“Y’all have done it now!” said Pippen.

Jordan went on a defensive tear, swarming the west with traps and full court pressure. He jumped passing lanes, knocked down one handed slams, pushed Magic off the block and hit fadeaways. Within minutes, the score was tied and Magic was complaining about no calls. ”It’s like I’m in Chicago stadium," he complained.

“Welcome to the 90s,” Jordan said cold-bloodedly. Ouch!

At the end of regulation, the game was tied. But Jordan and Magic would not let it end. “We’re going again!” said Jordan. “No,” replied Coach Daly, worried about injury. He was ignored as the overtime started.

The over time was brutal, with all the players fighting at the top of their ability to secure the win and the bragging rights. Robinson grinding in the post, Malone and Barkley fighting for boards, Bird hitting parameter shots, Magic controlling the tempo. But it was Jordan with the last word with transcendent play and wizardry that assistant Dave Gavitt would call the most amazing five minutes of basketball he had ever seen.

I can just imagine what that scrimmage and overtime must have been like. It is true shame for basketball aficionados and fans that a film does not exist of that game. Would any of you want to see that ‘scrimmage’ of Magic vs Michael, populated by teams of all time greats, as much as I would?

At the end, Jordan and Bird strutted and skipped off the court, gloating shamelessly about the win. Magic left the floor demanding a new officiating crew. “Magic was cursing at the refs, his teammates and his coaches,” Jordan recalled. “He couldn’t stand that we beat them. It was the most fun I have ever had playing basketball.”

And that’s it. That is a rare, inside look of what really happens, what these truly rare players really feel, when it is just them, devoid of the cameras, the public spotlight, the politic responses; just them, their egos, their careers and their incredible games to back them up. It is what makes them who they are.

My sources for this post was the GREAT book, When the Game Was Ours by Jackie MacMullan (if you haven’t read this book, you should) and Golden Boys by Cameron Strauth. I simply changed much of the descriptive text to my own words to facilitate the story for this post, give my own ideas on the events and for brevity. I added my own preamble so readers born years later, or too young at the time, would understand the stage these events happened on.

Posted by: Cap's Goggles | August 02, 2010 at 11:43 AM

What is the status of Bryant's knee surgery?

Mamba24 - no worries - that was me kidding around.

I'm funny dammit.

If Snaq signs with the Ceptics AND gets his jersey retired at Staples, I'll know that hell has frozen over and that we're all living in the twilight zone. If a monstrosity like that happens, I say we bathe that jersey in green light and during half time we get those t-shirt launching gun things, fill them with slime and fire away at it. But that's just me.
Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 03, 2010 at 08:37 AM
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Now Justa I want you to stop it! Stop this ISH NOW!! You know nobody is more a Kobe supporter than I and nobody hated Shaq more than I when he left. But Justa, you gotta stop this! Whether at this particular time you want to admit or not...Shaq's jersey must and will be retired and hang from the Staples rafters. Now Justa you got to let these negative feelings for Shaq go honey! It's just not good for you. In time, I say in time you will come to see that yes that Jersey belongs up there. That is all! Carry On! LMAO!!!

@ Posted by: Cap's Goggles | August 02, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Posted by: mamba24 | August 03, 2010 at 08:52 AM

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I can't believe I read the whole thing.

I think that post was the literary version of "INCEPTION".

Zoinks.

DBDH!

I'm funny dammit. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 03, 2010 at 09:10 AM
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You don't expect me to say otherwise do you? LMAO! Yes Justa, You are funny...At times! Lol!

@Justa, HEY! You never made a comment about my INCEPTION critique! That's alright though, I'll let you go see it again and then you can give me a definitive JustAnotherMambafan answer. Carry On!

@DBDH, YEAH THAT WAS A GREAT POST BY CAP!

Mamba24 - I'm sorry, but if Snaq signs with the Weeners, I will hate him forever. No exceptions. No inceptions.


Regarding Inception, I'm gonna have to see it again. I still think you're wrong, but hey - I'll reserve judgement LOL! I wanted to see it again anyways. What a great movie!

The 1992 Olympic team will always be romanticized by us mere mortals. Funny thing is, much of it is because of the lack of sufficient media coverage (in contrast to now), and time zone/logistical issues; a lot of us didn't get to see as much of this juggernaut as we should've. Even funnier, is that the team lives up to every single accolade, romanticized or not, in total absoluteness. Every lofty plateau, easily conquered. Every comparison, the unquestioned winner. Funniest of all, is that I still have the SI issue with the Dream Team on the cover - a full year before they were officially assembled. Sheer star power. Complete dominance. Basketball nirvana. Thanks for the memories...

DBDH!

I'd rather retire TWO #24 jerseys.Posted by: Magic Phil | August 03, 2010 at 08:33 AM
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ROFLMAO!! STOP THAT MAGIC PHIL!!! hahaha!

Please, no "INCEPTION" spoilers. I have yet to witness its joyous rapture!

DBDH!

Just a thought... I am curious to know which Lakers team would win, 2000-02 three-peat team vs current soon-to-be three-peat team. Which Kobe is better? now or 2000-02? Could Bynum/Gasol stop young Shaq?

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You want Hall of Fame Coaches, Check it, we’ve had (Four)
We got the (2) Time Finals MVP, you know that’s Kobe Bryant
Who scored more points than an entire team without even trying
He scored 81 points in a game & could have scored much more
But Rings not number of points is what Black Mamba plays for.
We got The Logo Jerry West & 1st Great center George Mikan
The Legendary Elgin Baylor & Magic Johnson the Icon.
We’ve had great centers like Shaq, Wilt & of course Kareem
Super guards Worthy, Goodrich & Silk played on the Laker team
Karl Malone & Gary Payton, A glove & Mailman we just leased
A (11) time Title Winning Coach who mastered Zen in the East
Chick Hearn the Legend, Broadcasted our Lakers Games
Now he’s Broadcasting from Heaven & is in the Hall of Fame
We got Sports Winningest & Best Owner, Kudos Dr. Jerry Buss
We play for Rings & Rings only , which is why teams fear us.
That’s just a summary of our Resume, we don’t talk we Do.
We the Freakin Champion LA Lakers, Who the Hell are You

Just a thought... I am curious to know which Lakers team would win, 2000-02 three-peat team vs current soon-to-be three-peat team. Which Kobe is better? now or 2000-02? Could Bynum/Gasol stop young Shaq? Posted by: LakerPeace | August 03, 2010 at 09:31 AM
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It would be close but I have to go with the 2000-02. They had it all. A Shaq at the zenith of his power. A Kobe Bryant who suddenly found out he could do anything as good or better than MJ. A young derrick Fisher who was clutch every time not just sometime. A Rick Fox who could come off the Bench and shoots the lights out. A Robert Horry who could shoot the 3 and Kill you in the last second just as well as DFish. I would put that 2000-2002 Team against any team in history and put my money on them.

Laker-Peace:
That is an interesting question.
Horry-Gasol GASOL
Fox-Artest ARTEST
Shaq-Bynum Shaq
Kobe-Kobe New Kobe
Fish-Fish Old Fish
Shaw-Blake even
George-Barnes Barnes
Samaki Walker-Odom Odom
Medvedenko-Carracter ?

I would say the '02 Lakers starters would have an advantage with Shaq, but the '11 Lakers bench is much better. I would give a slight advantage to the '02 Lakers.

I'm glad Chuck "the Rifleman" Person got promoted. That guy is a tough competitor and a great shooter.

Go Lakers!

Hello All

Here I sit waiting for an appraisal to be done...
Figured I would peek on the blog via iPhone...
Hope you all have a great day...
GO LAKERS!!!

Day 2, Game 2 on my re-watch of the Finals. Ray Allen goes off in the first half, Rajon Rondo closes out the game for Boston. The Lakers battled back from Allen's first half barrage to take the lead, but went totally flat in the last three minutes.


The Lakers offense was frequently stagnant (part Celtic D, part just not moving the ball enough). That led to the Celtics getting out in transition, which is where the game was really lost.


In the first half the whole Celtics was focused on getting Ray going, and the picks they set, the focus on getting him the ball, his hustle away from the ball and his great shooting were really more importnat than the Lakers' defense. to give an idea of how many ways the Lakers got burned:


On the fist two, Fish was guarding him, and got taken out by picks. On one Bynum helped but was very late, the other was a wide open look.


The next two were off Shannon Brown, including one where Shannon was giving unnecessary help in the post and left Allen.


Then he got one off Farmar who had (halfheartedly) picked him up in transition.


The next was off Kobe, who was slowed down by a series of picks. Wide open.


He ended the first half with another transition 3. Fish picked up the guy with the ball (Rondo) and Rondo found Allen. Allen hit it before Fish could get there.


In the second half Boston looked for Allen less and Fisher followed him better. He only hit one three in the second half (after seven in the first). It was off Shannon Brown.


So: Brown 3; Fish 2; Kobe 1; Farmar 1; unguarded in transistion 1


It was a Celtic team effort that got Allen off - numerous strong picks, transition opportunities. Of course, he had to hit them, and he did.


And that was about it for Ray in the series.

Mamba24, that's a hell of an interesting topic, both teams have some very very interesting and unstoppable parts coming to the table. RIGHT NOW, I'd say the 2000-2002 squad, but let's save that, clip it, and wait until after this season, then see how we feel. Something tells me a healthy Bynum, seasoned in the system Artest, and the firepower from the bench with this current team could give maybe any team fits period. Hell of a morning topic by the way!

Sorry lakerpeace, you started the topic, let me give credit where it's due

Good Morning Laker Fam,

Nice to see that the Rifleman has been added to the coaching staff and that PJ has signed his contract.

KB Blitz,

Thanks for the article regarding Brown possibly signing within a week and that Caracter will also sign with the Lakers. I'm really excited about Caracter and Ebanks.

Hell of a morning topic by the way!Posted by: raiderlaker1980 | August 03, 2010 at 10:00 AM
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LakerPeace's idea for a topic and a good one!

Just a thought... I am curious to know which Lakers team would win, 2000-02 three-peat team vs current soon-to-be three-peat team. Which Kobe is better? now or 2000-02? Could Bynum/Gasol stop young Shaq?

Posted by: LakerPeace | August 03, 2010 at 09:31 AM

1999-2000 Lakers squad or even 2000-2001 Lakers squad was the best of the era.

99-00 had 67 wins. 00-01 team went 15-1 in the playoffs.

2002-2003 Kobe Bryant>>>All other Kobe's. This includes 05-06 Kobe when he went for 81 points and 06-07 Kobe when he scored 50+ points 4 straight times. 2002-2003 with the exception of Shaq when the playoffs came nobody else was better. Kobe was just as deserving of an MVP award that year.

#24 though is more mature than #8 ever was.

As for Shaq....Prime Shaq would destroy Bynum or Gasol. It's not even worth asking. Neither of those two could handle Shaq either in Phoenix and 37 year old Shaq in Cleveland was more than a match for either. Prime Shaq would do to them.....would make us wish Sabonis was on the team more just to slow down Shaq (and Shaq still averaged 26ppg against Sabonis).

Posted by: Cap's Goggles | August 02, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Posted by: mamba24 | August 03, 2010 at 08:52 AM
YOU'RE MY IDOL, THANK YOU SIR!!!!!!
I'M PRINTING THIS AND PUTTING ON A FRAME AS WE SPEAK!
AMAZING!

Let the debate cease!


We're retiring Shaq's jersey.


Why?


Because we're Laker Nation and despite our fanaticism, we have class.


More class than Shaq.


Shaq's a future Hall of Famer and played the best ball of his career as a Laker and helped us win three Championships.


He gets his jersey retired.


'Nuff said.


(Just probably after Kobe gets his jersey retired. Like a week afterwards.)


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

I'M PRINTING THIS AND PUTTING ON A FRAME AS WE SPEAK!
AMAZING! Posted by: Magic Phil | August 03, 2010 at 10:16 AM
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Yes it was a GREAT ARTICLE! But thanks go to Caps-Googles!

Jon K,

I agree. Shaq helped win 3 championships for us. He was the reason we won those rings. He averaged a ridiculous 28/12/4 with 2-3 blocks for us.

Shaq should retire as a Laker and have his number 34 retired by the Lakers.

Go Lakers!

Hi all,

Quick thought on Shaq as a Laker retiree. I think it would be good overall, mostly for all the above positive reasoning. It's a shame that someone wasn't able to get Kobe and Shaq on the same page, think we could have won a few more rings. Seems like it should have been, like Shaq gets Kobe the first 3 rings and Kobe gets Shaq the next 3 or 4 or...?

Yes Shaq should have his number retired. Hell No, aint no Freakin Shaq retiring as a Laker! No, No, HELL NO!!!!!!

Nemaia,


"I'm really excited about Caracter and Ebanks."


That makes two of us.


Can you imagine how AWESOME it would be if Caracter and Ebanks end up being as good as I hope they are? The rest of the league will just HATE us for getting two players that good so deep in the second round. The envy will just be delicious!


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

@LAKERPEACE, PROPS FOR THE MORNING TOPIC!

Any news on UPS?

HAHAHAHA...ONLY in TWILIGHT ZONE would a BB fan make such a statement:

I'M PRINTING THIS AND PUTTING ON A FRAME AS WE SPEAK!
AMAZING! Posted by: Magic Phil | August 03, 2010 at 10:16 AM

WELCOME TO TWILIGHT ZONE!!

I was reading a Cavaliers blog this morning...

Funniest line:

"Even Artest didn't want to come to Cleveland"

Roflmao...

I was starting to feel sorry for LeBron but the more ISH that starts to come out on him...I'm seriously beginning to dislike The Princess!

Posted by: mamba24 | August 03, 2010 at 07:38 AM


You can still feel sorry for him and think he is an idiot. That shows that you're a good person, with opinion. But not good enough to shut up about the end of "Inception"!!! I was interested in watching it, and then you spoiled me the movie. PUT AN [SPOILER ALERT] PLEASE!!!

Back to Lebron, i feel pity for him. Look at the other "Kings", of pop and of rock. I hope he survive his "friends", to let us hate him as he deserves, without any remorse for hating an idiot who died young.

LEWSTRS,


"Even Artest didn't want to come to Cleveland"


Dude, it's Cleveland! It's like Buffalo, but without all the glitz!


Poor Clevelanders. They want so bad to be wanted. It sucks being in a place where nothing works right.


Actually, living there has taught me a lesson: Make sure your government is good government because incompetent, corrupt government matters. It screws everything up. It effects the fabric of society in a meaningful way.


It's one reason I'm so nervous about Los Angeles' city council right now. They seem to be two steps away from Cleveland-level incompetency... and that is a scary, scary thing because one you get to that level, it's hard to come back from it.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

 
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