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Assessing how much Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter would benefit from playing with the Lakers

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Lakers rookies Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter passed the first test, convincing the team front office during summer league that they were worth more than a 43rd and 58th overall pick. But as Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak reminded reporters a few weeks ago, you have to take it for what it's worth.

"I think they played better than what their draft position indicated," Kupchak said of Ebanks' and Caracter's play in summer league. Ebanks averaged 15 points and 3.6 rebounds, while Caracter posted three double-doubles in his first three games and averaged 15.4 points, 8.6 rebounds and 1.4 blocks. "But once again, with summer league, most of those guys are not going to be in the NBA. They'll be playing perhaps in training camps, some of them will be in the D-League and a lot of them will go to Europe. You're evaluating potential NBA players against players that won't be in the NBA. You got to keep that mind. Just because you played well in summer league doesn't mean you're going to make it at the NBA level. But if you can't play well in summer league, that's an indication you can't play at the NBA level. That much we know. So we try to get the kids to come to camp and evaluate them there."

The next step entails the two working with the team once training camp starts Sept. 25, and the only definitive answers involving their future status with the Lakers will come once that begins. This much we do know: The Lakers believe both Ebanks and Caracter showed a good understanding of the triangle, could fulfill a need in the Lakers' frontcourt if injuries become an issue, and the Daily News' Elliott Teaford reports the team is expected to sign them before training camp begins. After the Lakers acquired forward Matt Barnes and Theo Ratliff, Kupchak told reporters the most the team would be able to offer Ebanks and Caracter are one or two-year deals, which The Times' Mike Bresnahan had reported could be at $473,000 each.

"We liked our true rookies in summer league but that doesn't mean anything," Kupchak said. "You don't know how they're going to work out. But it's always nice to have young players that you can work with and hope to develop."

Below is a breakdown assessing whether Ebanks or Caracter remaining on the Lakers would be the best option

The case for Ebanks to be on the Lakers: Ebanks' profile fits several areas that would fit into the Lakers quite nicely. He's already drawn comparisons to former Laker Trevor Ariza, both for his looks and size. His defensive toughness would nicely complement Ron Artest and Matt Barnes. And he already has a relationship with Artest and Lamar Odom after growing up in Queens, N.Y. It's unclear how many minutes Ebanks could get, simply because the front line is pretty stacked already with Artest and Barnes, but if Luke Walton's back continues to be an issue, Ebanks would have an opportunity for some run.

The case for Ebanks to go elsewhere (other team, D-League, Europe): As impressive as Ebanks looked on offense in summer league, that skill set is very deceptive. I did an interview with MetroNews Radio Network's Chip Fontanazza, who covered Ebanks during his two years at West Virginia, and he mentioned that Ebanks' main weakness involves his outside shooting. Being with the Lakers would help mask that problem because he wouldn't be expected to contribute much on offense. But it's hard to really hone in on shooting without getting much playing time. Taking extra shots in practice surely can help, but it doesn't always translate into games. Case in point, I saw Adam Morrison and Sasha Vujacic at numerous points last year bury shot after shot after practice, which really meant little in the long run.

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The case for Caracter to be on the Lakers: For someone who has prided himself on maturing tremendously after transferring from Louisville to Texas El Paso, there's no better place to grow as a front-line player than with the Lakers. As much as limited playing time would highly be likely, Caracter could at least use one or two seasons absorbing everything he could from Bynum, Gasol, Odom and Ratliff. All four bring valuable qualities a young player like Caracter could learn from, including how Bynum uses his size, how Gasol utilizes his footwork, how Odom showcases his versatility and Ratliff has perfected his diet to ensure a long career. In return, Caracter could give the type of effort Josh Powell and D.J. Mbenga gave in practice, an approach that didn't exactly appear in the box score but helped the Lakers' front line players continue their development.

The case for Caracter to go elsewhere (other team, D-League, Europe): Caracter remarked shortly after being drafted how his conditioning and weight has improved. He said he went from 305 pounds to 277 after his career with the Miners because of more sleep and selective eating habits, and he planned to get down to 270 to show his conditioning isn't an issue. Although Caracter has made strides in that department, the El Paso Times' Bill Knight remarked to me how conditioning still remains an issue he wants to work on. Having limited run doesn't surely help his cause there because nothing really replaces game speed. As much as Caracter would gain in basketball knowledge from the Lakers' front line, his conditioning wouldn't get to where it could be unless he's playing in the game.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: West Virginia forward Devin Ebanks tries to split the defense of Kentucky's Patrick Patterson (54) and DeMarcus Cousins during the Mountaineers' 73-66 victory over the Wildcats in the NCAA tournament's East Regional final. Credit: Jim McIsaac / Getty Images

Photo:  Texas El Paso forward Derrick Caracter demonstrates his skills during a pre-draft workout with the Charlotte Bobcats. Credit: Chuck Burton / Associated Press

 
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...the blog god MM has changed has placed another post or obstacle in way, but I must push through...there are apparitions who appear to be Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter, endlessly floating along, hoping for a place to land...

I wonder what Trevor Ariza is saying to his agent? I just want to reiterate that I always thought the Lakers should have made a move for Darren Collison in the draft. He would be a great fit for the triangle as he is a great shooter.

...I say to Ebanks and Caracter that if they want to get to LalaLand, they must follow me...I tell Ebanks that he must NEVER make the same mistake that his twin Ariza made...now Trevor is in fetters down in New Orleans...Caracter remains silent...

Worried about Artest?

Not in the slightest. Yes he will be more familiar with the triangle which will be a plus but in no way do I think he will lose any hunger for a chance at another Ring. Are you kidding me? Kobe treats each year as if he's never had one and probably takes the mind set that this will be his last chance at one. And that kind of mentality is infectious. Ron completely respects and looks up to Kobe, so we will definitely see him fall in line with matching dedication and work ethic which will in turn spill over to the "new" blood.

We've reinvigorated that burning desire by including Blake, Barnes & Ratliff (3 vets desperate to win thier First Title, kinda like how Pau, LO, Ariza & Artest did when they respectively joined the team) And do you honestly think that Pau, Fish , Shannon, Sasha & LO want another one any less this year???

Bosh said that "any thing less than a Championship is a failure". I say convict him of plagiarism. That line BELONGS to the Lakers ONLY... because anything less than a Championship for ANY OTHER team is EXPECTED, BUT not in Lakerland. As a matter of fact, I believe that it should be etched in stone and placed at the entrance to the team locker room.

This year WILL be special... mark my words.

...I say to Ebanks and Caracter that if they want to get to LalaLand, they must follow me...I tell Ebanks that he must NEVER make the same mistake that his twin Ariza made...now Trevor is in fetters down in New Orleans...Caracter remains silent...Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 12, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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This is some good ISH!!

New meat on Bench Mob
Has to carry Kobe's bags
Payment comes in Rings

LROB, WHERE DID YOU CUT OUT TO!!!!
Posted by: mamba24 | August 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM
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down goes LRob...Mamba24 calling out to him, but no reply...
Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM
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Mamba & Nemaia - hey...hey...watch it. You know some of us have to get in some work around posting. Y'awl do remember what that is right "work". Now chill before I sent a vicious throw puncher after ya.


...somehow, LRob has survived the onslaught and is back in the trenches, not a moment too soon I might add...this minefield is tough...

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM

I know it's wishful thinking, but wouldn't it be great if the Lakers traded Sasha for Trevor? NO would save money, LA would improve drastically, especially on defense, which seems to be a focus this off-season.

The trade works money-wise, according to ESPN's trade machine.

The trade works money-wise, according to ESPN's trade machine. Posted by: aka Scottie | August 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Then Scottie...MAKE IT SO!!!!

...Ebanks and Caracter look down and ask me if Mamba24 is my pet snake...my reply? No, he is one of my mentors...he will help navigate us throught this minefield until we reach our destination...

Quick response, Mamba - I likes!

I'll make some calls, although we'll need to work out who gets to wear #3 (Ebanks vs. Ariza) ;)

...even if it takes us until Sept.25th to get there...Ebanks and Caracter nod their heads in agreement and smile at the reptilian sage...

The New Taco Unit is way better than last year. Ebanks and Caracter will be perfect fits. We gotta get Luke to stay disabled so we can claim some insurance money.

Hey kettle - sounds like you're suffering from PTSD.

I'll hold off on any throat punching until I can be sure.

BUT - call me crazy again and all bets are off LOL

Y'awl do remember what that is right "work". Now chill before I sent a vicious throw puncher after ya. Posted by: LRob | August 12, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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Actually, not to rub it in but I don't! I've been on vacation since the night The Lakers won the Title. I been waiting for Justa to make an honest man of me, but...The poor woman has now officially lost her chance. You hear that Justa honey. My 3-peat starts this Saturday!! Come on Justa, you have to talk me out of this nonsense!!

...Ebanks seems distracted by a voice declaring he be entrusted with his departed twin's number, 3...the voice is one also known as Scottie...I implore Ebanks to stay focus for the journey has just begun...

I'll make some calls, although we'll need to work out who gets to wear #3 (Ebanks vs. Ariza) ;)Posted by: aka Scottie | August 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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Details, details! Lol!

I think there were some questions regarding any Jerry Buss HOF coverage. I'm planning to devote most of the coverage to that tomorrow as well as a live chat during the induction. I'll have more details soon.

MM

Mamba24 - 3-peats apply to sports ONLY. Stop this nonsense right now. If it didn't work on time # 1 and time # 2, what makes you think time # 3 will? Of course, this is all none of my business. We all just want you to be happy and drama-punk free!

...Ebanks seems distracted by a voice declaring he be entrusted with his departed twin's number, 3...the voice is one also known as Scottie...I implore Ebanks to stay focus for the journey has just begun...Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM
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Nemaia I'm only going to say this one more time...YOU GOT SKILLLZZZZZ MAN!!!!!

...a shrieking voice like that of a boiling pot or cauldron causes us to shudder in fear...Ebanks and Caracter see a beautiful lady, but I know better...will Mamba24 desert us now? Or, will he continue to guide us through this perilous journey?

Of course, this is all none of my business. Posted by: justanothermambafan | August 12, 2010 at 11:17 AM
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Of course it's your business Honey. I'm doing this stupid ISH for you. Ok I said more than I should hae there. I'M OUT! See Ya'll Monday!!


(Okay, let's try this again....)

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I know nothing about your movie, but I plan on nominating it for several Academy Awards.

'Best Costumes' in an authentic and realistic setting

'Best Original Screenplay' for the clever terrorist use of Celtics lines. "Mongo got cheated. Me should have won game. Ref not fair. Mongo cry"

"Best in Make up" - Novel realistic approach by using real blood from actual cuts to the stunt/actors faces

"Best musical score" - for having the star sing 'I Love LA' after beating up the Celtics/Terrorists

"Best Director" for his innovative use of point and shoot cameras placed on the foreheads of the stunt/actors in the fight scenes.

"Best Producer" - For amazingly coming under budget in a $63,000 movie

"Best Movie" - For riveting fight scenes that made the audience cheer, cry, and laugh all at the same time.

Fatty - Making dreams come true for the right price since 1962

Posted by: Fatty | August 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM

...after revealing to Ebanks and Caracter that the beautiful lady has ripped throats out, they swallow hard, put their hand to their own throats and beg me to proceed through the minefield...

We're signing Ebanks and Caracter and that's all I have to say about that.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!!

"I wonder what Trevor Ariza is saying to his agent? I just want to reiterate that I always thought the Lakers should have made a move for Darren Collison in the draft. He would be a great fit for the triangle as he is a great shooter.

Posted by: never | August 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM"

He's probably saying..."If I'm really not that good, you should have told me"....just kidding, very unfortunate how his year in Houston turned out. The way he ended up there was definitely the result of....let's lay some blame...his agent????.....no, himself, Trevor Ariza. Never place your destiny into someone else's hands. Yes you are paying him, and he's b.s.'ing you about what you're worth, and what he can get you, but you really have to think beyond and through all the smokesreens. He was and is still young. The offer the Lakers somewhat implied they would extend, by todays standards was pretty excellent for a guy who had a minor role during the season and a great playoff run for that season. Obviously financial security is something that these men have to look at. I will refer back to Matt Barnes, a player who is 30 years old and had not made $10 million salary in his career, yes 10 mill would be enough to get 99% of us by, but, they live in a different world. I'm not saying, he should go get a studio apartment in Hawthorne, or Willowbrook because it would be in-between El Segundo and Staples, but they have to watch for all the people who will try to latch on. I give props to Barnes, a player I've wanted for the Lakers for over 2-3 years, because I liked his size and skills (yes, I know he's not super-skilled, but I am hoping he will do the right thing, as Artest did last year. I just read over on Slam, somewhere on there, OK, I have been "unfaithful", a good post

"Kap Posted: Aug.12 at 11:48 am
Lakers will definitely lead the league in technicals next yr with Odom, Kobe, Barnes, Blake, and Artest on same team"

Actually that may not be, as the refs may grow tired of calling T's as the reputation of the Lakers changes. They will grow tired of arguing, and they want to get the game over with asap as well.

...we come across a zany, yet colorful character on the minefield named Fatty. After some dialogue with him, Caracter says that Fatty reminds him of the MadHatter...Caracter shakes his head and chuckles...I retort to Caracter that he shouldn't tease because if we don't get to Lalaland soon, he'll be looking like Chesire the cat...

[repost in reply to Fatty's repost]

Fatty - ha! Good stuff. Unfortunately the lead is not playing an LA guy, so the musical suggestion is out. I did have the hero take out the "Perkins" bad guy by shooting him in the knee first... I couldn't resist, and it went well with the rest of the action (needed one guy alive). The "Rondo" character got impaled on a stair railing... not sure how that relates to the Finals, but maybe next year!

Kettle - what have I ever done to you?

I'm not feeling the love....

phred? You there? Someone needs a reminder about how it's really only ever all about the love.

We really need to get this fake news cycle rolling.


It can't just be a one-man job.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

...another figure of great stature appears on the scene, the Seer(Prophet)JonK...his messages are sublime and prophetic...he prophesies that both Ebanks and Caracter will become Lakers and that the Lakers will live today, tomorrow and forever! He encourages us to continue on journey for the rewards of completing it are great...

i hope they both make the team and can get some decent amount of run next year. it'll be tought b/c right now the champs are stacked with talent. i love the bench--Ratliff, Odom, Barnes, Shannon and Blake off the bench is naaaaasty.

i hope they both make the team and can get some decent amount of run next year. it'll be tought b/c right now the champs are stacked with talent. i love the bench--Ratliff, Odom, Barnes, Shannon and Blake off the bench is naaaaasty.

Both looked good in the Summer league, but Caracter really has to show he can use his wide body because he just doesn't have the length to be a PF. He plays below the rim and with the elite PF we see in the playoffs I doubt he will be Mr. 13 on the roster.

Ebanks looks like his body is yet to mature, so just doesn't look like his legs are strong yet. The same savvy as Ariza as far as always evaluating where he should be on both offense and defense. Doesn't seem to have the extra long arms of Ariza either, but he is my bet for Mr.13, unless Theo is hurt so we get Mbenga back.

Devin, Derrick, and gone to Indiana Darren, would have made great additions to the Laker bench. Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
The future of the Lakers start with "D"

...Mamba24 seems to have disappeared, but the much trusted humanomaly hands me a map and directions on how to make it through a dark pass...Humanomaly looks up mistakes Ebanks for Ariza at first, but smiles when he realizes that the prophecy of JonK indeed is true...Humanomaly wishes Ebanks the best of luck and sends us on our way...

"I know it's wishful thinking, but wouldn't it be great if the Lakers traded Sasha for Trevor? NO would save money, LA would improve drastically, especially on defense, which seems to be a focus this off-season.

The trade works money-wise, according to ESPN's trade machine.

Posted by: aka Scottie | August 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM"

The Laker's are hoping that Sasha will make a super-comeback....Trevor had that off year last year, but before that he was showing signs of becoming a good outside shooter. Defensively, I give the edge to Trevor, chemistry is about equal. I believe that a player can not be traded for 30 days once he is traded, or something like that, I hate to say it, but I'd go for it, as much as I like the personality that Sasha brings to the team....and CP3 hasn't had a great outside shooter, as he got Peja on the downside of his career (when Peja and Hedo were both on the Sac Kings, I used to think that Peja got way more publicity than Hedo, I knew that Hedo had game as well, and Peja wasn't worth 5 times more than Hedo, I wouldn't have let Hedo go if I were the Kings, can't remember under what terms he left)....but offering them Sasha, the theoretical "machine" might work, and if it doesn't he's off the books after the year...hey we could sign AMMO to minimum and maybe sweeten the deal, 2 shooters for the price of one.

...finding a place to rest, we come upon twin optimists in Rizzo and Yogi, who upon seeing Ebanks and Caracter are delighted and chat with them about all things Lakers...two more of their friends, Laker J and scottie pimpin join in and share how enthusiatic they are about newbies, Ebanks and Caracter...

Sasha for Ariza = CP3 demanding to be traded.

...I reply to the lovely Justa(Pot)that our journey is to make to LalaLand and please you...it is a journey of hearts and minds, grit and determination, honor and glory...

It's pretty pathetic that I actually know this, but Devin Ebanks posted this on his twitter account today:

All done with my physicals. Headed to the lakers practice gym to have a meeting.
43 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

His twitter is devinebanks3 (I saw it on another board a while ago and just looked it up). Looks like his signing isn't too far away.

THIS JUST IN:


Former NBA player Charles "the Round Mound of Rebound" Barkley is seeking asylum in Cleveland, stating the need to stay as far away from princess jimmy as possible because "that girl is crazy". Barkley is counting on the denizens of Cleveland to keep him safe in case the princess shows up looking to fight him for his negative remarks about the collusion that took place between the 3 A-holes. Clevelanders from all corners have rallied behind the Mound, figuring they can launch their slings and arrows at the princess from the relative safety behind the wall that is Chuck. Police reinforcements are not expected to be called in, because they'd most likely shoot the princess on sight and ask questions later.

Sasha for Ariza would be nice. Lakers would have to take on 3 yrs for Ariza, but at the end of 3 yrs most of the teams contracts are up, that should be an interesting time.

Lakers could sign and thrown in Ebanks.

ESPN trade machine shows that trade as causing the Lakers to lose 1 more game.
Wonder why?

...at our place of rest, I reflect upon the words of the great Phred, that indeed, it is all about the love...This is what makes the journey worthwhile...

THIS JUST IN: Agent David Lee was just found naked and confused in Central Park. His secretary stated to this reporter that Trevor Ariza had recently visited the office and gave Lee a bottle of liquid sea minerals, reportedly from Theo Ratliff. These "minerals" were praised by Ariza for having tremendous health benefits and were given as a gift for "doing such a great job as an agent."


Ariza reportedly left the office chuckling to himself.


Several hours later Lee reportedly jumped on his desk tore off his shirt and began screaming, "SCREW THE LAKERS!!!" while rubbing toner ink all over his chest. When office workers attempted to calm Lee down, he began making fart noises in his armpit and then ran out of the office screaming, "I CONTROL THE NBA!!!!"


Four hours later a naked David Lee was found by NYC PD floating in a pond on his back pretending to be an otter.


More news as it comes it.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

...Ebanks looks a little perturbed by all the comparisons to his twin, but understands the reasons and mutters that he will carve out his own niche'...

...Steve gives Ebanks a shot in the arm by declaring that his signing is imminent...Ebanks smiles and sends the message out via twitter...

Don't be surprised if the rooks get regular minutes. From what I've seen in Summer League, these young guy's can play and their strengths intertwine well with the triple-post. Caracter is big, and he plays like a big man, with a smidgen of quickness and headiness. A big chip on his shoulder, and being a part of a Champion, preordains a good work ethic. Devin Ebanks is long, Stacey Augmon type-long, like Stacey, he prides himself in his defense. He has athleticism galore, and he doesnt need the ball to score.

The Lakers are experienced up and down the roster. If these two rookies perform like I expect, our starters and our veteran bench will be resting at the end of games all year long. Caracter represents beef in front court while Ebanks represents veracity. Think about our wing players; Kobe, Artest, Barnes, Brown, Ebanks, MY GOODNESS! LeBron and D-Wade are in trouble! After reading the measurables on Steve Blake combined with "The Bulldog", D-Fish, and Andrew-Pau, this Lakers defense can be legandary.

For the first time since Shaq, I don't fear any team in this league and that includes the FAILTICS, with their deep, decrepit, frontline.

LAKERS4LIFE....

...Ebanks gives ToneBone24 a chestbump for comparing him to someone other than his twin...plasticman, Stacey Augmon...Caracter is still asleep...

...Caracter is snoring...but at least he doesn't drool like Big Baby...Ebanks considers ToneBone24's words, LAKERS4LIFE for a tattoo...

...there seems to be a deafening silence on the minefield now...the calm before the storm...something is brewing...

Ebanks and Caracter will be great role players for the Lakers 3 years from now when Artest and Odom gets on the downhill of their career.


James Posey and Darren Collison, how did Mitch missed out on that one? Unloading Posey's contract and asking for Ariza in return. That is something doable for the Lakers.

EBanks is like Ariza, Sasha's expiring contract for Posey's., add Caracter for potential. NO could have saved money and still get young talents form the Lakers.

...what perils and adventures await us the rest of the way?...

"Sasha for Ariza would be nice. Lakers would have to take on 3 yrs for Ariza, but at the end of 3 yrs most of the teams contracts are up, that should be an interesting time.

Lakers could sign and thrown in Ebanks.

ESPN trade machine shows that trade as causing the Lakers to lose 1 more game.
Wonder why?

Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | August 12, 2010 at 11:52 AM"

I think it's more of a 4 year window, with Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Blake are locked in for 4 years, and they obviously will evaluate the 3 year guys, Bynum, Odom and....I hate to say it but Walton ("Luke, I am your father": Darth Vader......since his dad is probably done broadcasting, it would make a nice transition, for Luke....or potentially heading toward coaching) Art, the trade machine, probably just evaluated all the games that Trevor was unavailable for last year, and that was probably more than Sasha, so that was probably the cause for the "minus one".

"Sasha for Ariza = CP3 demanding to be traded.

Posted by: Laker J | August 12, 2010 at 11:49 AM"

Laker J, I disagree, neither has done squat for New Orleans yet, actually I don't care what CP3 demands, and I don't think his team does either as he's locked in for 2 years, and the 3rd year is his option....interesting Peja comes off the books after this year, that's $15.4 million dollars that will be available, as that team is right around the cap, probably right at it. His only value is that money coming off the books, as a player, he was done right at the end of Sacramento days. CP3 is considered by some to be the best point guard in the league. For the Laker's system, I would take Derron Williams, bigger, stronger, and he won't be blazing down the court with his "thirtysomething" teammates lagging behind if the Lakers could ever acquire him. And as I said before, he and Matt Barnes could go to the same barber and hang out together.

Larry Bird just got himself a very very good PG for Troy Murphy, who he's been trying to unload. lucky! very lucky!


DC will improve that team this year. Pacers are starting to look good again.

Hibbert
Magnum Rolle
Granger
Paul George
Darren Collison

...we are awakened by Staples 24 who presents some different options for both Ebanks and Caracter...their reaction is one of indifference...Staples 24 makes a compelling offer...Ebanks and Caracter nudge me to continue our quest...

Art, why would you want to throw in Ebanks???? These are deals that the Lakers got, Ebanks and Caracter, only going to have to pay $900K total for a good look at these two players, and let's hope they get more than 29 minutes apiece in the coming season. Should tell Caracter to put back on 70 lbs so that he can give the Lakers good practice against players such as the "Boston Shellticks" Perkins and Davis. That I'm kidding about, those guys will be, I hate to say, having health issues earlier than the general public.

...who would've thought that getting to Lalaland would have so many twists and turns along the way...

humanomaly,

Thanks for the clarification on the trade machine.

I threw in Ebanks because it looked like the salaries didn't quite match up with Ariza making more than Sasha, but I guess it was close enough to do the deal.
I figured if a little more was needed to do the deal throw in Ebanks as he is compared so often to Trevor.

...Ebanks and Caracter hear the discussion between the Artist and Humanomaly regarding their value...Ebanks and Caracter look at one another and shrug their shoulders and sigh...are we there yet?...they can't wait to see Ice Cube at a home game...

Dear Laker Fans,

There seems to be a false rumor going around that Ariza's agent was the reason Ariza was not re-signed. This cannot be further from the truth. Look at the facts. Kupchack called Artest's agent at 12:01 AM of free agency. The Lakers wanted Artest REALLY REALLY BAD. Once Artest showed interest in joining the Lakers, it was a done deal. We loved Ariza, but when you have the opportunity to sign one of the best defensive players in the league, it is a NO BRAINER. The Lakers PR department spun the story by blaming Ariza's agent, but the reality is that once Artest became available, Ariza had NO CHANCE of being re-signed unless he wanted to play for the minimum. There was a reason why Ariza was never officially offered a contract. Please stop blaming Ariza's agent, and accept the fact that the NBA's a business, and Ariza was just an innocent casualty.

Sincerely,

Kupchack's Junior Assistant in Training

Hey guys, Brad Turner just put up a post mentioning that the Lakers signed Ebanks

MM

"...Mamba24 seems to have disappeared, but the much trusted humanomaly..."

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | August 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Thank you Nemaia, but I'm far from being known as a person to be trusted...I flake out too much, I often take on more responsibility than I can handle....thanks for the gesture.

"Dear Laker Fans,

There seems to be a false rumor going around that Ariza's agent was the reason Ariza was not re-signed. This cannot be further from the truth. Look at the facts. Kupchack called Artest's agent at 12:01 AM of free agency. The Lakers wanted Artest REALLY REALLY BAD. Once Artest showed interest in joining the Lakers, it was a done deal. We loved Ariza, but when you have the opportunity to sign one of the best defensive players in the league, it is a NO BRAINER. The Lakers PR department spun the story by blaming Ariza's agent, but the reality is that once Artest became available, Ariza had NO CHANCE of being re-signed unless he wanted to play for the minimum. There was a reason why Ariza was never officially offered a contract. Please stop blaming Ariza's agent, and accept the fact that the NBA's a business, and Ariza was just an innocent casualty.

Sincerely,

Kupchack's Junior Assistant in Training

Posted by: KUPCHACK'S ASSISTANT | August 12, 2010 at 12:37 PM"

KA:

Great reCAP!!!

It probably went down as you laid it out, but I will still lay blame on Trevor's agent, feeding him the fluff that he was worth mid-level money, as I said, he was pretty young and only slightly proven back then, the agent was asking for too much. Would the Lakers have been interested in keeping both? I don't know, by the way the economy was going, and the team going from 15 to 14 to 13 players, probably not. If they were wanting to keep him and pay him more than minimum how would that have been done, a contract extension during his last season, because after the season he was a total free agent, not a restricted.
I'm off today but have alot to do, so I'll be gone soon.

Nemaia,

You are something else.

Ebanks is on board, now ist's time for, The Big Caracter...

BLOG UP.....BLOG DOWN......about Ebanks signing....non-guaranteed so all options are Lakers.

Okay, Nemaia has gotten into the fermented Coconut milk again. Dang it! I told you guys to keep that locked up in the cupboard!

MM needs to put a sign at the top of the page:

"WARNING! Enter the blog at your own risk!"

>>>now Trevor is in fetters down in New Orleans

In fetters?

PUH LEASE.

The guy will more than make 6 million dollars next year to FREAKING PLAY BASKETBALL.

If that's fetters, then SHACKLE ME UP, DAMMIT.

Just because you don't have a chance to win a championship every year doesn't mean your life sucks. I'm absolutely 100% positive that if Ebanks could get paid 6 million to play for the worst team in the league next season, he'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

It's really nice that there are guys like Artest and Brown who are willing to take less money than they could make elsewhere to have a chance to win championships. But I definitely don't resent guys like Farmar and Ariza who leave the Lakers to try to get a bigger role or more money or whatever.

It doesn't always work out. Ariza didn't get more money, but got a much more significant role with Houston than he had with the Lakers - that will probably increase even MORE in New Orleans. Wouldn't shock me a bit if Trevor ended up scoring 20 a game next season with Chris Paul dishing to him.

Same thing will probably happen for Farmar - he'll probably get more minutes, more shots, more assists, and more fan appreciation with the sucky Nets than he would have gotten filling in 15 minutes a game for the Lakers.

Back to the original concept, it's ludicrous to compare ANY NBA player to slaves. Totally ridiculous.

I just wrote a post for my blog (pardonmybias.com) regarding my take on the recent comments by Jeff Van Gundy and all the hype around the Heat. Here is a direct link: http://pardonmybias.com/actions-speak-louder-than-words/
Feel free to comment and voice your opinion.

Need Caracter to bang against Davis of Celtics for 5 to 10 minutes. Could also serve as trade bait with Sasha to get a Posey or Areza. Ebanks is going to be better than Ariza in a couple of years and fits the triangle to a T. He will mature just at the right time when Artest and Barnes are tailing off.

Can't wait til Mr. Buss gets his namesake engraved into that most coveted NBA Hall of Fame document.

Both looked good in the Summer league, but Caracter really has to show he can use his wide body because he just doesn't have the length to be a PF. He plays below the rim and with the elite PF we see in the playoffs I doubt he will be Mr. 13 on the roster.
Posted by: Yogi | August 12, 2010 at 11:39 AM

I seem to remember a guy named Charles Barkley that played power forward at 6' 6" that was a wide body, he turned out pretty good, Karl Malone was a 6" 9" wide body, he's going into the HOF tomorrow. Glen Davis is only 6'8", he seems to have no problem scoring or defending, There are plenty of 6' 8" to 6' 9" power forwards, were just fortunate to have one 7 footer and one 6" 10". Character @ 6' 9" did a great job on Cousins, he's 6' 11". I don't agree with your assessment.

EBANKS IS GONNA TURN SOME HEADS. IT IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS AND I'M JUST HERE TO REPORT. MARK MINE WORDS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS WRITTEN. Based on his growth in training camp... the Lakers will see how important he really is to chemistry.

I must be losing it in my old age. But I can't help remembering a former Laker great who like Caracter was able to move a power body with so much smoothness and grace. I am talking about the great Elgin Baylor. On some other team the pressure of raising a losing franchise might have been the kiss of death for the career of Caracter. On the Lakers he can develop and maximize his physical gifts playing against some of the best players in the NBA. I know it is premature, but I can't help seeing his jersey in the future hanging on the rafters. The Laker fast break to a future championships-Ebanks and Caracter on the wings running a fast break with Ricky Rubio bringing it up the middle. Well if not a dream then a visualization.


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