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Ron Artest: 'I am in no way associated with' anti-LeBron James party

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In this corner of the blogosphere, many people probably would welcome Ron Artest hosting an anti-LeBron James-themed party. But even Artest has his limits.

Fliers have popped up in various circles this week showing Artest's image for a party taking place Friday night in New York, featuring the "[Expletive] LeBron" edition with the swear word in question being misspelled. Artest immediately issued a statement denouncing the affair, as reported by ESPN Los Angeles' Arash Markazi.

"I am in no way associated with the nightclub party that is being promoted in New York City on July 16th that disparagingly refers to a fellow NBA player," Artest said. "We are in the process of pursuing legal action against all entities involved who are using my name, image and likeness in an illegal manner without my prior knowledge or authorization."

I'm not going to link to the party in question, but it only takes a few Google searches to find it. I'm by no means defending James and the way he went about "The Decision," but this is just the latest example of extreme reactions to James' decision to leave the Cleveland Cavaliers for the Miami Heat (think Dan Gilbert's over-the-top letter). Unfortunately, the party promotion also feeds into Artest's unpredictable persona and penchant for throwing various parties.

But even Artest won't go down this route.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: A happy-looking Ron Artest holds his team's championship trophy before Monday's Lakers victory parade. Credit: Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times.

 
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They can use my likeness instead of Ron Artest's if they want.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

I understand why Thriller is responding the way he is. I would too; however, we have become WAY too over-sensitive as a society.


Half the fricken news on MSNBC is about "crossing the line" essentially over-analyzing a person's statement to see if it was "too" controversal or "too" inflammatory.


Ridiculous.


When society becomes such that people are not allow to speak in a relaxed fashion even about negative things, then we have lost our free soul as a people.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

BTW, Garrett Kall,

I like the Lakers a lot, but to give you a comparison between your level of boasting and my level of boasting, I would never be so naive to claim that the Lakers would win the next 6 titles in a row.

I think the Lakers will be in 3 of the next 6 finals, and they will win 1 or possibly 2 rings in that time.

Considering the potential impact of injuries, plus the fact that specific matchups can sometimes defeat a team before they get to the finals, it's unreasonable to assume much more than that.

In a best case scenario where everyone gets healthy and stays healthy and plays up to the level they're capable of playing, the Lakers are far better than any other team, including Miami.

Note that Luke at his peak was a 50% 3-point shooter and led the team in assists. When healthy, Luke, the most reviled player on the Lakers, is the equal of Mike Miller (maybe better).

And Sasha in his best season hit 44% of his 3-pointers, and got several players ejected from games for retaliating against his smothering defense.

During the playoff run of 2009, Shannon Brown hit 48% of his 3-pointers.

All three of those players were either nursing injuries or just coming back from injuries during the 2010 playoffs. Also, Andrew Bynum has NEVER been healthy for a finals. Can you imagine if the Bynum of November (18 points, 10 rebounds, and 2 blocks) played in a finals instead of the Bynum-nursing-an-injury (9 points, 7 rebounds, 1 block).

And then there's Artest - learning the triangle and thus performing well below his offensive level.

If the Lakers had Bynum, Brown, Walton, Vujacic fully healthy and playing like they're capable of playing (and assuming Kobe, Pau, Artest, and Odom also healthy), they'd overwhelm most teams. And they would beat a Miami team solidly.

The team you just saw barely scrape by the Cetlics had Bynum with a torn meniscus, Kobe with an injured ankle, knee, and finger, Odom with an injured shoulder, Brown with an injured finger on his shooting hand, Walton with a bad back, and Vujacic coming back from a bad ankle sprain. If all those players were fully healthy, then the Kendrick Perkins injury (the ONLY Boston injury) wouldn't have happened, because it never would have made it to game 6.

So at their best, I think the Lakers could win 3 of the next 5 championships. At their worst, they'll still make the finals a couple of times. And in the average case, like I said - in the next 6 years: 3 finals appearances and 1 or 2 titles.

Let me preface what I have to say with this: I do not hate the Miami Heat.

Not now. Not sure if I ever will.

Even after James pulled his "The Decision" fiasco and castrated Cavaliers' Nation in front of millions on live TV. Even after that ridiculous "Miami Thrice" circus where the "3 ME-Egos" were introduced to a hyperventilating Miami horde.

Not unless the Heat suddenly morph into a latter day Russell-led Celtics kind of juggernaut that mows down the Lakers year after year (and such a losing streak ain't gonna happen under Dr. Buss's watch) would I even begin to hate THAT team.

Why? Because of THOSE guys.

By those guys, I am referring specifically to former Lakers, Pat Riley and Bob McAdoo. Patrick James Riley was 'my' coach, leading 'my' team, to four championships during the 1980's. Bob McAdoo was a vital member of two of those title winning teams.

The Showtime Lakers' crowning glory, with Riley at the helm, occured in 1985 when the Lakers became the first and (to date) only team to claim an NBA championship over the Celtics on the Boston Garden floor. Words cannot adequately express the magnitude of that victory. Just ask West and Baylor about the tears they shed when Los Angeles bounced back from the infamous "Memorial Day Massacre" to emerge victorious over the Celtics in six games. That great team won it all -- first for themselves, and then for all the Lakers who came before them, who could never get it done.

Just as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar will always be "The Captain" to Lakers nation, Pat Riley will always be "The Coach" of that 1985 championship team. What he , Bob McAdoo, and the rest of the Showtime teams of that era accomplished, will live on forever in the annals of Lakers lore. Purple & Gold Nation will never forget them: Once a Laker, always a Laker.

To take it a step further, which team do you think Riley and McAdoo were rooting for in the 2008 and 2010 Finals? The team that was from the same EC as their team, the Heat? Or, the Lakers from the WC?

Exactly.

Chick Hearn had a great love and respect for Pat Riley...and that's good enough for me. In their heart of hearts, I'm sure that both Riles and McAdoo will always cherish being a Laker, and wish for nothing but the best for the L.A. Lakers organization.

Of course IF the Heat are lucky enough to survive the EC gauntlet, and emerge to meet the Lakers next June, my support 100% will be with the Lakers.

For reasons too lengthy to list here, I firmly believe the Purple & Gold will be sending Coach Jackson into retirement with PJ's 4th "Three-Peat." That will simultaneously earn KB and DFish their 6th rings, and bring a record-tying 17th NBA World Championship to the proud Lakers franchise. In the words of Kobe after Game 7 this June, "...you can take that to the bank!"


P & G R

BTW, I've thought of a potential alternative to Raja Bell.

He's currently signed with a team, but the rumor is they're thinking of waiving him if they can't trade him. His contract is only partially guaranteed, and if they waive him before August 2, they only have to pay him 500K instead of 4.6 million.

He's a very good defender, one of the best defenders of PGs in the league. Unfortunately, he's also a bit of a head case. But they may be able to get him for a minimum contract.

What would you think of Delonte West as a Laker?

P & GR,

Exactly, Riles and McAdoo were former Lakers. Pat was also a sidekicked of the legend and Bob was instrumental in a Championship as a role player to Magic and Kareem. However, NBA is a business. Today, he is your beloved player but tomorrow, he is the General Manager of opposing team. Where should our loyalty belong to the person or to the team? If Pat Riley has a remaining Laker soul, he would not invite Fisher our active PG ad take him away from the Lakers. His loyalty today is to Mr. Anison, the owner of the Heat and also to his family. Any Laker past is just a pigment of history. He will do anything to destroy the team that gave him fame and fortune in order to put his own name in a pedestal. Precisely, this is the reason why we should embraced the Purple and Gold standard and not personalities. People change while the name Lakers will remain. We are Laker fans not Riley's fans or McAdoo fans.

LTLF,

"Note that Luke at his peak was a 50% 3-point shooter and led the team in assists. When healthy, Luke, the most reviled player on the Lakers, is the equal of Mike Miller (maybe better)."

This excerpt completely ruined the credibility of any argument you were attempting to make, no matter how valid those arguments may have been. You made some excellent points, but please, I beg of you, stop comparing Luke Walton to former Dream Teamers.

Laker Truth,

Add another panacea of a dream that Luke is better rebounder than Artest.

I heard Kevin Love would like to join the Lakers if Luke Walton steps aside, oh what a dream, please Lord don't wake me up.

What is the matter with you people??

LUKE WALTON is the best Laker - EVER.

Get a grip.


:)


Jon K - can I be your co-host for the party?

LongTimeLakersFan,


"What would you think of Delonte West as a Laker?"


Bad idea. I've got nothing against the guy, personally, but he has SEVERE bi-polar disorder, so much so that his symptoms approach paranoid schitzophrenia when in a manic stage. (We're talking severe auditory and visual hallucinations.)


I hope the guy gets some help. I just think with his condition he's too much of a wild card.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

ahaha anit-Lebfuoon??

is that what Cavs fans are calling it now? shouldnt it be anti-Meat...

anyway, guys dont worry about the trolls and what they are saying. they are trying to throw off our fanbase because we ARE LAL... they dont have the dedication that we do, they dont have the passion, or the spirit in their team, so they get jelous and start ranting on how princess jimmy combined would make the "3 stooges" so dont even waste your typing skill on this Garrett guy, his an obvious Troll that is trying to convince our people into thinkin that the Meat is going to be better??? not a chance in the world, so what? Vegas picked you as favorite but well see what will happen. they picked the Celtics on the last finals, we saw what happens.. so to my dear Troll buddys, talks all you want, stats, specs, defense, offense, no matter what you try we will always back our team 250%... so dont waste your time on here. just let us discuss our current roster and our players, go back to Miami Herald and join your fellow bloggers there, you dont see us LAKER fans wasting our time in your blog lol because you guys suck!!! we dont want to waste our time.

GO LAKERS!!!!!!!

Jon tell them what we play for!!???

RINGSSSSSSS!!!

Be honest, the Heat became the mini-lakers of the west when Riles came in.

I do think most on this blog are short selling the Miami Sheet, and I appreciate it. We're fans, that's what we're supposed to do. However, being as objective as I can, I think the Sheet will have the best record in the L next season. If they make it out of the east, that means the Lakers have to beat them in a series, without home court.

LeBron was the most loved player in the L. Now he's the most hated.

" mini-lakers of the west" obviously should be east...

What would you think of Delonte West as a Laker?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan |

Bad idea. I've got nothing against the guy, personally, but he has SEVERE bi-polar disorder, so much so that his symptoms approach paranoid schitzophrenia when in a manic stage. (We're talking severe auditory and visual hallucinations.)


I hope the guy gets some help. I just think with his condition he's too much of a wild card.

Posted by: Jon K

I think it would be a great pick-up for the Lakers. I understand Jon K's concern also, but if they can pick him up for the minimum I would think it's worth the risk.

@ Tim-4-Show - they might and i quote that they "might" have the best record in the East but i dont think they will make it out of the Eeastern Conference alive, not without the Celtics Trolls have anything to say about that, they were the 4th seed int he playoffs and eliminated everyone and came to the finals, that shows they have more dedication.

Lebuffon james and the Cavs had the best record in the East last season but guess what happend to them? they FAILED!!!! so just because you play good in the regular season but when it comes to the finals all the teams and players choke, except for LAL and BOS so far... so that goes to show you its not all about winning games, but its all about winning a championship... we could be the 8th seed in the West this upcoming season but as long as we get in the Playoffs were gonna eliminate so, i dont care about the regular season stats as much as finals stats, same goes for players, some players are really good in the regular season and some players shine during the Playoffs now you tell me which counts more? regular season or playoffs...

It was just reported by the Clerk Recorders office in Miami that Lebron has offically changed his name to Lebaaaaaa to honor his favoite animal, the sheep, who like him are followers not leaders. Go Lakers!!

the Heat just signed Mike Miller

hey justa or anyone... is mamba24 gonna be back here anytime soon or did he leave for good as he said??

i saw him commenting yesterday but havnt seen anything today so far...

NBA4ever,


Delonte West gets major panic attacks just flying.


I understand people's interest in the guy as he plays defense, but its just not a good idea.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Delonte west is weak and the lakers have two point guards way better than him, so why would they want to take on that head case?

LAL818 - I think he'll be back. Maybe just taking a bit of a breather...


I have to tell you I had gotten you confused with LAL_FAN when you first posted on the live chat. I asked if you were him, and thought you said yes but were just using a different name for the chat for some reason. So.... sorry about that.

What will be interesting will be watching LeBron react to being so hated.


For years he has been courted everywhere he went. In New York it practically a lovefest everytime he visited. No more.


This is a guy who has seemed to thrive off adulation, not scorn. A player like Kobe feeds off his enemy's hatred. LeBron seems weak-willed enough that he wilts under negativity.


And he'll experience plenty of it next year.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

What would you think of Delonte West as a Laker?

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | July 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Answer: NO!

Delonte West is that bad Jon K? Does he not take his meds or something, cuz I know there have got to be some good drugs for stuff like that....


Most everyone said Artest was a head case too, and look how that turned out. Ahhh - the miracle of modern science (plus a good heaping helping of Kobe man-love)!!

Justa,

"LUKE WALTON is the best Laker - EVER."

Anywhere else in the entire world, perhaps the entire universe, this comment would be taken as a funny joke, but NOT HERE, not in the LA Times Lakers Blog, where Luke Love dominates all reason and sanity. :}

Delonte West...would be great...until he gets caught sleeping with Kobe's mom, and show up at practice with a sawed off shot gun, and a couple of loaded Glocks wearing an ankle bracelet. I'm thinking no, let's pass on crazy boy.

Miam Heat vs LA Lakers! Match up made in heaven!


1 Zydrunas Ilgauskas/ Bynum
2 Chris Bosh/ Gasol
3 Udonis Haslem/ Odom
4 Lebron James/ Artest
5 Mike Miller/ Sasha
6 Dwayne Wade/ Kobe
7 Mario Chalmers / Blake
8 Jason Williams/ Fisher


9 Dexter Pittman / Caracter
10 Varnado / Ebanks


11 Riley/ Jackson
12 Spoelstra/ Shaw


13 Heat fans/ Lakers fans


14 South Beach/ Hollywood


15 Mickey Arison/ Jerry Buss

LTLF

Have u lost ur mind? Delonte is a manic depressant and he will try to sleep with your mother!

@ justanothermambafan - actually Justa that wasnt me, if you were talking about yesterdays chat that MM made using some wierd new chat, and i asked him what if we dont have facebook/myspace/tweeter we cant join the chat he said no. he said its easy to get an account everyone did it. but i dont have those things so i couldnt participate, well.. i was commenting on the bottom of the chat lol

but yeah that definatly wasnt me, some imposter was probably trying to mock me, but i can assure you no matter what chat, most likely ill keep my same name because i dont want people to get confused, so im not sure who you were talking to but that wasnt me... i was sad cuz i couldnt join the chat since MM was using a new format.. i liked the other one better since i can join the chat...

so i dunno what LAL_FAN said but always know... if its the real me youll always find 818 in my name... thats how you know its me... just a heads up, hope that guy/girl wasnt rude to you and hope you didnt think i was being rude..

I hope anyone who says NO! to Delonte West are the same people saying NO! to T-Mac.

I would compare the risk to JR Rider no big deal if it doesn't work out.

Like LakerTom said- it doesn't make sense to worry about players 9 through 13 at this point. I would think that at this point we have a solid team that we are secure with.

I would rather take a "gamble" on a Delonte or a TMac then spend on a vet that won't play much anyways. Or you might as well save money and try to develope some young guys with upside.

LAL818 - NO -you misunderstood! LAL_FAN is a regular here. I thought it was him using a new handle.... it was me that was messed up! No rudeness was involved at all!

Laker Truth - lol - you KNOW you want to join the Sect of Luke AKA Luke Lovers United. Come on in - the water's fine! HAHAHAHA!! Seriously, though - I see the value of a healthy Luke to this team. I hope he contributes this coming year. We'll need every "ace in the hole" we can get on the way to #17!!


My idol mamba24 come back my man.hi pretty justa how are you?

PG & R,

Nice post on Riley, etc.
I agree with you.

Just because someone leaves the Lakers doesn't mean they automatically become hated figures. All the factors need to be considered.

I am still a Riles fan unless his team plays the Lakers, then I want to beat them even if it's just a pre-season game. I don't hold it against him for trying to build the best team he can.

Actually, living here in FL, I like both the Magic and Heat, but not when they play the Lakers, then I want them to get crushed.

I still root for Turiaf to do well, except when he plays the Lakers.

There seems to be love shown to B Scott here, many wanted him to be the coach if Phil stepped down.

I still hope Rambis does well in MN, except when he plays the Lakers.

Too many examples to list.

Now Shaq, that's a different story, hope he fades away into obscurity, would love to see every team pass on him and show no interest.

@ justa - okay good because i wasnt sure what exactly happend yesterday so i had to clear my name hehe but i did see LAL_fan before but not as much, maybe he changed his name? yeah anyway...

i agree with you on Luke, but his injury prone, dont get me wrong i like the guy because he is a facilitator just like PJ said before about him, when your teams down, or we just can find a way to the glass, when phill puts in luke he assumes the role of the facilitator, so his a good asset to your team, he just cant shoot, or do good layups, but his always there in the plays, his the type of a guy who passes first and scores second so he dose make a really good addition to your team, but we dont need his injured self, we need health luke and we need him so that he can break the thin ice that we stand on sometimes as a team. so ill give you that much justa but as far as him being a solid addition to our team, im not sure, it personally think we can get better talent for him if we could trade him, maybe TMac for his spot? lol im just sayin~

Justanothermambafan,


Yes. You may co-host the party.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Are people disparaging Luke again?

Hey, isn't he going to try out for the USA National Team along with LO?
He'd be a lock.
Wouldn't he?

I would rather take a gamble on a Magic Johnson comeback before signing a loser like West. The only other moves they need to do are signing SB and/or barnes or both and that's it.

Jon K- Delonte West.... are you kidding me? NO WAY in Hell, now we have to worry about him taking a stab at Kobe's MON. I vote HELL NO.

Let's be serious...


Miami's not a basketball town. Give me a break.


Los Angelenans may be muted as fans sometimes, but this is still a fricken basketball town. We expect excellence.


In Miami people are too busy salsaing or wearing sunglasses in South Beach to actually pay attention to basketball. Orlando is WAY more a basketball town than Miami.


Bosh and LeBron went to Miami because they want to be on permenant vacation, not because they want to win a Championship. They don't want to work hard. They want to coat-tail on Dwayne Wade's shoulders. Frick. Look at the Miami Heat's website. The players are all mugging for the camera as models to a soundtrack of acid-jazz.


I'm sure, it's COOL, but it doesn't reflect an ice-water-in-the-veins athlete-warrior thirst for Championship.


It's just more of that LeBron James' "Hey, I'm going to party my way to a ring!" attitude.


Lame.


I can't wait for them to implode.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

LOL Adrian P - I'm good - and you?


LAL818 - whew - I'm glad that case of mistaken identity is now officially straightened out! I still say a healthy Luke is / will be a solid guy and needed contributor for us. Healthy has been the obvious issue of course. I also say his contract was NOT an albatross at the time of signing, but that's the subject for a completely different thread... or 10... !


Jon K - my first guest of honor invite is Thriller's psychologist. I'd love to hear the clinical analysis she'd put on the princess!


The only other moves they need to do are signing SB and/or barnes or both and that's it.

Posted by: Mike G-Man | July 16, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I agree that they don't need to do much, I would love to see them sign Barnes, Brown I could careless if they sign him or not.

But all these people who say NOOOOOOOOO to Delonte must be the same ones that said NOOOOOO to Artest? I could careless if they signed him, I just don't buy into the "crazy". Who cares, he seemed to do well last year with all that was going on.

@ Jon - It's just more of that LeBron James' "Hey, I'm going to party my way to a ring!" attitude.

ahaha your funny. very well said... they are trying to vacation perminantly, but as far as basketball who has heard of miami, since when where they a championship contender team?? ummmmm since never... name a big name player out of miami? ummmmm cnat think of any... so yes jon they are not a basketball nation, they do love to go to the beach, tan, smuggle some cocain from cuba and party all night using the drugs lol thats how it goes down in miami ahaha so yes orlando is a crazier fan base than miami... remember last years filas against orlando and how their fans were going crazy every time their team made a shot... so yes and yes dear jon...

@ justa - well i mean can we get tmac for luke?? im up for that... 2phatt will agree on this, i seriously dont want Tmac going to clippers, i will be sad, i want him to come to the lakers and give it a try and see what happens, i mean cant hurt us any other way...

as far as lukes contract, i dont even know anymore because he seems to be a permanent laker? i never hear about his contract finishing or expiring or that the lakers FO wants to trade him to another team, or are mitch and lukes dad doing an illegal contract under the table that no ones knows about... as far as ive knows luke has been a laker foreverrrrrr! lol so dunno if he even has a contract anymore. he just comes and plays when he wants.

That's funny comparing artest to delonte west. I was very on board with the artest signing becasue it filled a need in replacing Ariza, and Artest was the perfect guy to defend beasts like carmelo, Pierce, and lebaaaa. The Lakers have two excelent point guards already in Blake and Fisher so why would they need Delonte West? They need a two guard not another point. I've supported Artest all year and was happy that he repalced Ariza becasue he wanted to play for rings and din't care about the money and was an upgrade. West would be a downgrade and is not what is needed that's why I think it's ridiculous to think the Lakers would want him.

"as far as lukes contract, i dont even know anymore because he seems to be a permanent laker? i never hear about his contract finishing or expiring or that the lakers FO wants to trade him to another team, or are mitch and lukes dad doing an illegal contract under the table that no ones knows about... as far as ive knows luke has been a laker foreverrrrrr! lol so dunno if he even has a contract anymore. he just comes and plays when he wants.

Posted by: LAL818 | July 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM

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He has a contract, you can't miss it because it's HUGE. He still is owed $6 mil a year for this year and at least two more after this one. That's why you never hear about it, it's not expiring soon and no one wants to take on that kind of liability without getting something huge in return.

I think the Lakers panicked and locked him into a longterm deal before they got Gasol since Luke was getting so much credit as the one player that "knew the triangle" He really doesn't provide much value at this point and can only see his contributions decreasing annually at this point.

I'm glad you like I were Artest supporters from the start. I was thinking West was more of a two gaurd anyways. You are absolutly right about the upgrade of Artest to defend the beasts. Like I said I don't care about West, someone put it out there and I don't think it's that big of a risk.

LAKER TRUTH,

>>>I beg of you, stop comparing Luke Walton to former Dream Teamers.

Here is the roster of the Dream Team:

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Larry Bird
Charles Barkley
Chris Mullin
Patrick Ewing
Karl Malone
John Stockton
David Robinson
Scottie Pippen
Clyde Drexler
Christian Laettner

Other than Laettner, Mike Miller isn't worthy to wash the sweaty garments of any of those other players.

If you're referring to the "Redeem Team" as opposed to the "Dream Team", then Miller wasn't good enough to make that squad either.

But for half a season, when he was starting for the Lakers and he was healthy, Luke led the league in 3-point shooting for the first couple of months of the season.

The odds that Luke will ever stay that healthy and play that well for a full season are miniscule, but what if he got healthy in about March and got his rhythm back at the end of a season and played like that for a playoffs.

Teams wouldn't know what hit them. Because they think like you think. Oh, it's just Luke. We don't have to worry about him.

Comparing Luke's numbers with Miller's numbers would be ludicrous. Miller has always been on bad teams where he got to play starter's level minutes and take a significant amount of shots. He's had some terrific seasons (e.g. last season with Washington) and some just so-so seasons.

Luke was drafted to a deeper team that only had shallow enough talent for him to start for one season, and he played very well that season. If Luke had played on all those losing Memphis and Minnesota teams, he'd have had much more padded stats as well. And if the Lakers had signed Mike Miller this summer, he'd have been playing 20 minutes off the bench behind Kobe and Artest and his numbers would plummet as well.

It's a moot argument, because we can't turn back the clock and swap their places for their careers to compare numbers in swapped situations.

yellofever

>>>Delonte is a manic depressant and he will try to sleep with your mother!

My mother is dead, so he'd have to be pretty desperate to try that.

There are two reasons why I would like West as a Laker...

1. he's a good wing defender. He could slow down guys like Collison or Paul or Ty Lawson or DWade that the Lakers could face in the playoffs.

2. I just want to see the look on LeBronze's face when an ex teammate of his gets a ring before he does.

Actually, there's a third reason.

I knew suggesting West would create some fun discussion here. :-)

Art-FL,

>>>Hey, isn't he going to try out for the USA National Team along with LO?
>>>He'd be a lock.
>>>Wouldn't he?

Yes. It would go like this:

Kevin Durant: Hey coach, here comes someone... I think it's Luke Walton.

Coach K: Okay. Lock the door. Let's pretend we're not here.

@ Bay to LA - i see, i see, but ive noticed that no one talks about luke weather injured or not lol sad :(

I mean can't you just see Delonte sitting on the sofa next to Jimmy Kimmel a little under a year from now:

Jimmy: So Delonte, you've played with arguably the two best players in the NBA. Who do you think is better?

Delonte: Hey, Kobe got me a ring, didn't he? All LeBron got me was some MILF luv.

>>> luke has been a laker foreverrrrrr!

Don't you remember Luke throwing alley-oops to Wilt?

And how about Luke retaliating when McHale clothselined Rambis?

:-)

>>>why would they need Delonte West?

Well, it's like this.

Good quick point guards drank the Lakers' milkshake last season. They blew by Fisher and Brown like a speed bump (a verrrry low speed bump). Farmar was marginally better, but he's gone. Fish is still Fish, and Blake is no better.

But West is. West is someone who can slow down the small quick waterbug guards. So if Ty Lawson starts to heat up, you bring in West to cool him down. Or if Collison is going off on Blake, you bring in West to shut him down. West could even provide a few minutes relief for Kobe defending Wade if it came down to a Lakers-Heat finals.

@ LongTimeLakerFan - ahahaha your funny... touché my friend!

LTLF,

You took the lock and ran with it, that was great!!

Geesh, if somehow Luke played well next year, what a bonus.

"@ Bay to LA - i see, i see, but ive noticed that no one talks about luke weather injured or not lol sad :(

Posted by: LAL818 | July 16, 2010 at 12:58 PM
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Because he has no impact on the game whether he's injured or not :)

Ron you're right, I am with you always god bless you a big hug from your fan sao paulo Brazil, beterrraba. GO LAKERS GO...............................

Ron you're right, I am with you always god bless you a big hug from your fan sao paulo Brazil, beterrraba.GO LAKERS GO...........

Next season when everybody of Lakers are much healthy...including Bynum...
No team can stop them...even LeBron & Wade team...

3 Peat for sure....

I understand why Thriller is responding the way he is. I would too; however, we have become WAY too over-sensitive as a society.


Half the fricken news on MSNBC is about "crossing the line" essentially over-analyzing a person's statement to see if it was "too" controversal or "too" inflammatory.


Ridiculous.


When society becomes such that people are not allow to speak in a relaxed fashion even about negative things, then we have lost our free soul as a people.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Posted by: Jon K. | July 16, 2010 at 10:12 AM

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Jon K,

I overstand where you're comin' from but, some of your recent posts concerning LeBron have me concerned. You've made comments saying you hope he gets run over by a truck(or something to that effect) and hoping he gets attacked by an alligator...I mean WTF?...that'a just downright HATEFUL dude. I mean look, I think he could've handle the whole affair much better but, I'm not gonna hate on him for deciding to go to another team. I see nothing wrong with it. I'm hoping you were j/k but, still those are disturbing comments as far as I'm concerned...ease up a little bro. It ain't that serious...is it???

Let's go Ls...all the way to a 3-peat!!!


This response by Artest reminds me of yet another thing I like about him. He has refused to get bogged down by negativity directed at another person in public for some time now. Can't help but like that.

Socks is shaking in his boots at the thought of going head to head with Joel Anthony

To All the People on This Blog Who Compares MJ to self-proclaim King LBJ:

MJ IS THE MOST GRACEFUL ATHLETE IN THE WORLD (BEYOND NBA) LIKE A BALLERINA , FLOATS IN THE AIR WITH EXPLOSIVE LEAPING AGILITY.

YEA, HE CAN SCORE EVERY NIGHT 40 OR MORE PTS., BUT IT'S NOT THE POINTS THAT PEOPLE LOVES MJ'S GOD-GIVEN TALENT, BUT ITS HOW HE TWIST AND TWIRL IN THE AIR WITH GRACE, POWER, AGILITY, PRECISION, BEAUTY, SPONTANEITY (THE MOVES)...... HE IS ALWAYS IN THE "ZONE" MODE, ALWAYS ONE WITH THE UNIVERSE WHEN HE STEPS IN THE COURT. HE SPEAKS ELOQUENTLY & ARTICULATELY WHEN INTERVIEWED (COMPARE TO YOUR KING LBJ, WHO TALKS & THINKS LIKE A KID) / EVERY MOVE HE DOES IS SO IMMATURE AND PRE-MADONNA.

MJ NEVER HAD GROUPIES OR YOUNG PUNKS SURROUNDING HIM OR EVEN PLACING THEM ON THE TEAM'S PAYROLL. MJ HAD HIS DAD AS HIS BIGGEST SUPPORTER. (ALTHOUGH IT IS UNTIL WHEN HIS FATHER WAS MURDERED WHEN HE START TO GAMBLE IN WHAT OUR SOCIETY CONDEMNED HIM FOR).

MJ IS THE COMBINED CARY GRANT AND DANIEL-DAY LEWIS OF THE NBA --- HAS ALL THE RANGE, AGILITY, BEAUTY, GRACE, CHARISMA, PROFESSIONALISM, ATTITUDE (DETERMINATION, PERSISTENCE, HARD-WORK, ETC.....) THERE WAS NO PRE-MADONNA ABOUT HIM. IT WAS ALL THE LOVE OF THE GAME, ABOUT LIFE, ABOUT PASSION, ABOUT EXCITEMENT THAT FULFILLS HIM, ABOUT LOVE & JOY THAT BRINGS SOLELY TO HIS LIFE JOURNEY..... IT WAS FOLLOWING "YOUR BLISS" AS JOSEPH CAMPBELL ONCE SAID AND EVERYTHING WILL FOLLOW.

BECAUSE OF THE CONTRAST IN HIS LIFE JOURNEY, HE BACAME GREAT AND GREAT EACH TIME...... NOT LIKE YOUR SO CALLED AND SELF-PROCLAIM KING LEBRON JAMES.....

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU MORE AND MORE, BUT NO NEED TO JUSTIFY NOR REASON OUT..... AS LARRY BIRD PUTS IT , "THERE IS MICHAEL JORDAN AND THEN THERE IS THE REST OF US." AND Larry Bird said, "It's just God disguised as Michael Jordan."

BY THE WAY, I AM JUST 13 YEARS OLD.... AND I KNOW PRETTY MUCH ABOUT THE TALKS IN THE 80'S AND PRESENT...... THERE WILL NEVER BE MICHAEL JORDAN.....

1 TO 10 -- MJ IS 20

1 TO 10 -- YOUR SELF PROCLAIM KING LEBRON JAMES COMPARE TO MJ IS -5 (THAT'S NEGATIVE FIVE).....

1 TO 10 -- KOBE BRYANT IS THE CLOSEST PLAYER SO FAR +4 (PLUS FOUR)... EVEN KOBE BRYANT SIMPLY STATED "THAT'S MICHAEL JORDAN"..... HE CHANNELS JORDAN'S AURA TO BE JUST LIKE HIM

MJ DOESN'T NEED PEOPLE TO BALLOONED HIS BRAND, HE IS JUST IT!
NOT LIKE YOUR SELF PROCLAIM KING LEBRON JAMES.......

GRACE, BEAUTY, POWER, AND SOOOO MUCH MORE!!!

MICHAEL JORDAN ALL THE WAY....

Despite my trying to get them to take it down at least four times, this post is still up, uncensored and unedited at

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2010/07/michael-jordan-proclaims-kobe-bryant-is-better-than-lebron-james.html

(censored) the LA fakers....kobe is a rapist...lebron is the best....if jordan could judge he wouldn't draft kwame brown.... (censored) FAKER FANS...LEBRON JAMES OWNS UR (censored) (censored) ANYDAY...(censored)T HE FAKERS...(censored) THAT (censored) (censored)...

Posted by: (censored) the fakers

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Posted by: Socal74 | July 12, 2010 at 02:30 PM

Let the LA Times know what you think of the awesome job the mods are doing! Family values on display!

note: most of the censored words are f-bombs and n-words


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