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Poll Question: How will Andrew Bynum's surgery go?

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Wednesday would appear to be just another ordinary summer day, with Lakers fans wondering who else the team can pick up on the free-agent market, predicting the next funny antic Ron Artest will perform and lamenting that the NBA season hasn't started yet. But beyond everyone in this corner of the blogosphere being a Lakerholic, there's another reason why you're anxious. In case you're trying to remember why, I'll tell you.

Andrew Bynum is having surgery.

I'd cue the dramatic music, but chances are it's already playing in your head. You're remembering this marks the second time in three years that Bynum has had surgery on his right knee. You're wondering if this date will just mark another setback in Bynum's injury-laced career. You're wondering why can't I just enjoy the Lakers' championship DVD instead of worrying about this?

Even though I expressed strong sentiments that Bynum showed this season he can play through injuries and will find ways to be effective when he's not fully healthy, I honestly don't know if he will report to training camp at 100%. To assuage some concerns, there are no developments that suggest why anyone should worry. Bynum delayed his surgery by 10 days simply because his doctor, Dr. David Altchek, didn't have an appointment available until now. Before fans blame Bynum for putting off surgery until after the World Cup, keep in mind that most athletes don't have surgery right after the season ends; the procedure is tiring on the body, and most would prefer to rest up before an operation. And the Lakers expect that Bynum will report to training camp at 100%, though the team won't set an exact timetable until after the procedure.

Still, there's one huge reason why some Lakers fans will remain anxious until who knows when. Bynum's injury history and slow recovery time give plenty of fans reason to believe history will repeat itself. But I don't want to assume this. To get a breakdown on where Lakers fans stand on this issue, we're going to get a vote in the poll below.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers center Andrew Bynum is scheduled to have surgery on his right knee. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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Mitch needs our help, let's get going.....

Sasha out for a salary dump?? He needs to go to make room for Shannon??

Interesting if it proves to be true. That would be devasting news....... No more 'Machine' means no more Sharapova courtside.

Fatty - Who just looked at the weather forcast. "Rain, heavy at times for the next 5 days......" ^&%^&&%!!

Posted by: Fatty | July 28, 2010 at 08:02 AM

Mamba24,

you wrote: OK...But?

my response: Did you want something more? I am against trading Sasha.
I think that if he had not been injured this year he would have done better.
I appreciated the free throws at the end of Game 7. I appreciate his pesky
defense. I appreciate that he can play 1-3.

LakerTom will imply that I'm not right by not feeling the same way about
Bynum. We've beaten this dead horse into a fine pate, so I won't
comment upon it. Except ...

LakerTom sucks wet farts out of dead pidgeons.

That's my story and I'm stickin' too it. pthpbt!

@HobbitMage, Good Morning to you sir! No I didn't want any more in particular, I just thought perhaps like the news leads say...additional info from you was to follow. Lol!
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@NEM... Lakers are not going to trade Sasha. He is our expiring contract that will save us $10M next year, which will allow us to use our MLE to add another good player(s) without increasing our overall salary and tax.
He is this season’s version of Ammo, whose expiring contract allowed us to sign Steve Blake and Matt Barnes. And just like Ammo, Sasha will not be traded because the Lakers need his expiring contract more than a trade.
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TOM

@HobbitMage, I know Hobbits are curious creatures but can't Hobbits be nice to LakerTom? Come on Hobbit you can do it!! Lol! PLeaaaaaaaaase!

Good morning, Lakerville! Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that Lakers are looking to move Sasha.

http://tinyurl.com/29sg6ky

"And just like Ammo, Sasha will not be traded because the Lakers need his expiring contract more than a trade."

If they can get rid him of him now they don't need to pay his salary for next season. Especially if it is for just a 1st round pick (and hopefully a high end 1st round pick).

Present.

Cheers from PLG!

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PLG,

Does that mean you have a present for us or want one?

Good morning,

Add me to the don't trade Sasha bandwagon. He fits well into the new roster and with stronger bench players around him, he has a greater chance to succeed.

Somehow I think the repeated declarations by Mitch that he is optimistic that the Lakers will re-sign Shannon Brown are a smokescreen. UPS has zero bargaining chips at this point and if he were going to do a deal, I'm convinced it would be done already.

I really don't have a preference either way when it comes to Shannon. He's a serviceable role player, but he's nothing special either. He's got a lot of holes in his game and his BB IQ is on the low side. He's nice insurance, but hardly essential. Why this is worth so much time and attention, I'm not sure.

Meanwhile, best wishes to AB17. He needs to come back healthy for his own sake and a healthy Andrew Bynum is a huge plus for the Lakers.

Art - I am awake and here but not quite ready for the morning crowd. You have to be on your toes with the coffee team. But I love presents.

LT - I would think the same about Sasha. But maybe there is something else going on there with him.

PLG

LakerTom & Blitz,

Regarding Sasha, gotcha. Thanks.

PLG,

Good morning and cheers to you too.

Hobbit,

Wow, what a way to start off the morning. Hopefully the day ends better.

Just saw Barnes on ESPN First Take...

Matt is very articulate in his responses, complete opposite of Odom...

He seems very excited, Kobe is excited, Mitch is excited...

So I'm totally excited...Is our defense going to be better this year than last...

Tune in to find out...

Mamba24,

In regards to "being nice to LakerTom":

I didn't want anyone to think I missed the "tweedle dee and tweedle dum"
comments.

In addition to being curious and tenacious, hobbits are also fun loving free
spirits. & feisty.

So ... If he doesn't want to play nice, then we don't have to play nice.
When you learn to fall from 6' up, pain is just accepted. I'm of the firm
belief that you give better than you get.

Sound good?

Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!

@HOBBITMAGE... “LakerTom sucks wet farts out of dead pidgeons (sic).”
Your post speaks for itself and your lack of maturity, civility, and intelligence.
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If Shannon does indeed return according to Mitch then Sasha will be expendable. Yes Sasha made those two clutch free throws at the end of game 3 and 7 but the Lakers are looking for way so save money just as much (yes Buss doesn't want to pay the luxury tax). Sasha is the far superior team defender when it comes vs Shannon but if Barnes can be the same way playing back up SG if Shannon is again ineffective then it's all but makes Sasha nothing but the end of games free throws. As much as we love Sasha and he loves LA just as much he loves Maria Sharapova he wants to play a big reason he said "I"m not a garbage player" last year.

Also I thought Sasha had a great pre-season last year. But that was just pre-season and Shannon had the more consistent one, probably the biggest reason why Shannon got more consistent minutes backing up Kobe for the most part. Sasha barely got 8 minutes per game last year.

If the Lakers trade Sasha now they don't even need to worry about paying $10 million overall (Sasha's contract combined with the luxury tax). Buss would do anything to cut down on luxury taxes (a reason why he traded Chris Mihm in 2009 to Memphis for a basically a salary dump so he didn't need to pay the rest of Chris's $2.5 million contract that was basically collecting cobwebs even though at the time Bynum was injured). Kobe will be getting around 35/36 mpg. Shannon will take as much as he can and if necessary Barnes will be there as well. Sasha really has to fight for his life to even just to have a shot. Even if Fisher/Blake goes down to injury, Shannon could easily play the back up PG just as much as Sasha could.

That being said if Shannon does not get re-signed Sasha will stay. The Lakers will need a back up for Kobe then and while it won't be as consistent as Sasha was in the latter part of 07-08, it will be at least better than nothing.

As a first round pick, if it can be a high end one, it could be a major steal. In 1984, Red Aurbach traded away Gerald Henderson to Seattle for its first round pick in 1986 and as a result they got the 2nd overall pick which they used to draft Len Bias. Had Len Bias not overdosed on cocaine and lived he could have extended the Celtics dynasty longer and not been a total waste for the Celtics who traded away a solid back up in Gerald Henderson (who backed up Dennis Johnson).

Just explaining the reasons why the Lakers could be trading away Sasha. And it's not mere speculation by some rumor mill on bleacher report.

"Sources said Lakers are trying to trade Sasha Vujacic wfirst round pick to get his salary off books. They tried to do it for Delonte West."

" If they move Vujacic, and there's a decent chance they will, Brown will likely be back in LA. #Cavs stuff sounds like just a flirtation. "

Source: http://twitter.com/pdcavsinsider

Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!

Posted by: rdlee | July 28, 2010 at 08:48 AM

With you on that partner! Great post!

@HOBBITMAGE... “LakerTom sucks wet farts out of dead pidgeons (sic).”
Your post speaks for itself and your lack of maturity, civility, and intelligence.
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TOM

Posted by: LakerTom | July 28, 2010 at 08:48 AM

No offense but when it especially comes about Bynum you haven't been the most maturest of people either Laker Tom.

Man, I know how Matt Barnes feels about coming to his boyhood favorite Lakers now that my handle's being mentioned on roll calls. Wait, let me wipe the tear from my eye. It's... a dream come true. Thank you Mamba24, wherever you are.

lewstrs, yes our defense will be better than last years....we have players who want to play defense off the bench instead of showcase their abilities to score outside of the triangle.. and no farmar means no 3 point shots for the hell of it with 19 seconds on the shot clock and no big in position to get the rebound :) but I will tune in regardless, no doubt!

Repost - sorry - BAN TROLL MAN.


(Mamba24 - I think he was taking issue with me. Anyhoo....)


Hubby and I went to see Inception last night. UNBELIEVABLE. We both loved it. What was the question you wanted to ask me regarding it?


Also - I got dropped from the good morning's at the top AND out of the morning crue mini roll call? Wow.... maybe I *should* self ban. It might make Troll Man happy...:)


Hobbit - play nice! BAD hobbit.


I gotta say I'm coming around on my opinion of Matt Barnes. If he walks the talk he just talked, I'm loving him!

Also - I got dropped from the good morning's at the top AND out of the morning crue mini roll call? Wow.... maybe I *should* self ban. It might make Troll Man happy...:)
Hobbit - play nice! BAD hobbit. Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 28, 2010 at 08:54 AM

Justa dear listen closely...Put those percosets down and go take a second look.Lol! Just playing with you BFF. You're still at the top with a Goodmorning. Justa I can't do everything for you or the Blog would say it's favoritism. Now stop being a Narcisist & tell me how you rate Inception in your top 10 Sci/Fi List. I'm just glad you both liked it I wouldn't want a mad Mr & Mrs. MambaFan out to get me! By the way thanks for everything, I owe you a lot.
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Hobbitmage;

I'll say that Laker Tom - for as positive and optimistic as he is - does get blood boiling. and it's strange that this is so, but too strong is your picture.

I'm so excited about Barnes, that I will double dip on the Haiku...

Matt Barnes a Laker...
Paths taken in NBA...
Karma reflects life...

Master justa...is my Haiku training bearing fruit...

CHARITY BOXING MATCH: HOBBITMAGE Vs LAKERTOM

Proceeds from the match to go to Psycho Drama Queen foundation..hahaha


Love the morning crew roll call. Good morning everybody.

Too many percosets spoil the perception.

I loved Inception - top 5. Very "Matrix-y".

lewstrs - ahhhh grasshopper - you are not yet able to take the pebble from my hand....


hey, is that the old Partridge family bus???? You list "Beantown Bums" and you leave my out????? fmkt??????? You got a grasp of things???? NO.

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Master justa...is my Haiku training bearing fruit...Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 28, 2010 at 09:02 AM
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Good morning fam!

Justa, now I'm going to take my wife to see Inception. That good, huh?

LEWSTRS, keep the wheels on the bus rolling.

RL1980, RIP Jack Tatum. What are your thoughts about Tatum and Stingley never reconciling?

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loved Inception - top 5. Very "Matrix-y".Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 28, 2010 at 09:09 AM
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GOOD VIBRATIONS . . .

Today is Bynum's knee surgery AND my WIFE'S birthday. She is a great, GREAT woman and has agreed to share some of her festive and life-giving energy from this special day to Andrew's body. Trust me ~ nothing but good coming from this surgery!

(Special thanks to JUSTA for making wifey feel a part of the family here, and thus wooing such a gift from her!)

Mike

@Gilbert Battung, Good morning sir! Thanks!

nemaia - if you guys loved The Matrix, you will love Inception. It is quite awesome in many ways. I'm still processing - will talk more about it with anyone who'll care to listen!

LakeMike - anything to make another Real Laker Girl feel welcome! Hope you guys have a great day!

The twitter said that Lakers wanted to move Sasha for salary cut and also in trying to get Donte West. This is like you want to get rid of a screw driver to replace with a hammer. How much savings? 3-6M both salary and luxury. How about the trepidation image created by the move? Somehow it has repercussions too. Why do we need Donte West when we have already accumulated a lot of tattoos in the Laker line up? Another thing, if Lakers dump Sasha, well Anna Sharapova does the same to poor Slovenian. Who will guard Goran Dragic? Who will annoy Melo Anthony? Who else will embrace Kobe and Gasol? Why are the Lakers always cutting players in order to provide a room for Luke to sit down? The solution is to retire him early due to damaged foot, damaged back, the only remaining is a handsome face. Pls. don't move Sasha, this is his banner year.

Happy Birthday to Mrs. Laker Mike...

Hope you both share a wonderful and special day...

justa - one day I will walk the rice paper and grasp that pebble...

Mamba24 - yes she is a siren...intoxicating music in my head...sounds like the FSW tune right before a Laker game...lol

Man, I know how Matt Barnes feels about coming to his boyhood favorite Lakers now that my handle's being mentioned on roll calls. Wait, let me wipe the tear from my eye. It's... a dream come true. Thank you Mamba24, wherever you are.Posted by: 63 Footer | July 28, 2010 at 08:53 AM

LMAO! STOP THAT ISH NOW! lOL! Sorry it should have been on there a long time ago. My apologies sir!
Mamba24

No offense but when it especially comes about Bynum you haven't been the most maturest of people either Laker Tom.

Posted by: KB Blitz | July 28, 2010 at 08:52 AM

Donkey talking about ears.

This new way of communicatiONS through TWITTING create fast and furious transmittal. Unfortunately, humans are also smart enough to use the means for nefarious purposed to sow intrigues, to misinform and to sensationalize a non-event into a breaking news. The gullible s jump into it as it spreads and germinates the seeds of doubt. Where is the verification process? Where is the principle of justice in hearing the two sides of the story? None, we cling to it because it's a new gadget.

Mamba24 - no apologies necessary - you are like the arthritic finger of the blog: always reminding us that life and careers can be painful if not properly taken care of, and yet still able to bring greatness.

Nemaia, thanks for the shout out.. about Tatum and Stingley... it's one of those things you wish they could've laid their differences aside post football, but those are human beings, and not everyone is as quick to forgive when they feel they've been wronged, (ask justa) and please don't kill me justa..just a point of reference lol. All in all, 2 fierce competitors and good human beings, maybe they can reconcile on the other side together someday, there is still hope!

Just for the record.....

Salaries don't have to match if you trade to a team below the cap.

So, if Sasha was traded to a below cap team, they only would have to send say, a 2nd round pick back.

For doing this 'favor' in the past, teams usually also want some money as well, to help pay the traded players salary.

I think "if" this deal happens, the Lakers would only get a second round pick back, not a 1st rounder. This would be more of a 'you scratch my back, and I will scratch your back' deal.

For us, not such a bad thing. Mitch does better with 2nd rounders than firsts.(lol) And 2nd round picks are not guaranteed, which can save you money.

I have to admit, I did not see this coming, and would be happy to find out, its not true or fails with the next try.

Edwin Gueco:

you wrote:

This new way of communicatiONS through TWITTING create fast and furious transmittal. Unfortunately, humans are also smart enough to use the means for nefarious purposed to sow intrigues, to misinform and to sensationalize a non-event into a breaking news. The gullible s jump into it as it spreads and germinates the seeds of doubt. Where is the verification process? Where is the principle of justice in hearing the two sides of the story? None, we cling to it because it's a new gadget.

Response:

Nice fancy words in your composition, so what are you trying to say in layman's term? Don't make me pull out the webester, hahahaha


Be a good boy today Laker Mike, it is not your day but it's Mrs. Wash the dishes, do the laundry, clean the house, prepare all hot meals and avoid spending too much time blogging. Attention should revolve only to the Lady celebrating her natal day.

Re: Inception.

Please, no spoilers. I've got a hot date with my wife this weekend and we're supposed to watch that flick.

DBDH!

Delonte West = LBJ Kryptonite

GACK! He nasty!

DBDH!

So ... If he doesn't want to play nice, then we don't have to play nice. When you learn to fall from 6' up, pain is just accepted. I'm of the firm belief that you give better than you get. Sound good?
Posted by: hobbitmage | July 28, 2010 at 08:48 AM
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Reasonable...Yes. Good...No, No, HELL NO!!! I WANT EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG TO BE ONE FREAKIN HAPPY LAKER NATION FAMILY DAMNIT!! But since that is an impossibility, I will be forced for now to...accept it! Lol! Carry On Sir! And thank you for even considering my suggestion. Really! See although I didn't want to say this, although everyone knows Laker Tom is my Idol...You HobbitMage, YES YOU!! Are my other idol and so it hurts me to see my two idols this way.
Mamba24

It means don't just believe what Curious George says, posts or tweets, it could run your life.

Nemaia - good morning to you fine sir...

What tropical paradise do you live in again...

It's something I can dream about, while bearing with the next two hottest months of the year here in Vegas....

Erratum: it could ruin your life.

Delonte West = LBJ Kryptonite GACK! He nasty! Posted by: Don't Blame Del Harris! | July 28, 2010 at 09:42 AM

OH SWEET JESUS!! ROFLMAO!! and...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!!
mamba24

@ LEWSTRS,

Please strap "DBDH!" to the luggage rack, baby. I'll roll any way I can. Championship Heaven in 2011.


DBDH!

Be a good boy today Laker Mike, it is not your day but it's Mrs. Wash the dishes, do the laundry, clean the house, prepare all hot meals and avoid spending too much time blogging. Attention should revolve only to the Lady celebrating her natal day. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | July 28, 2010 at 09:40 AM

LMAO!!! Sonds like you are speaking from experience there Edwin! Damnnnn you are one classy guy sir!
Mamba24

Mamba24 - no apologies necessary - you are like the arthritic finger of the blog: always reminding us that life and careers can be painful if not properly taken care of, and yet still able to bring greatness. Posted by: 63 Footer | July 28, 2010 at 09:30 AM

WTF? Thanks...I think! Lol!

Sasha will only be traded for a trade exception, not for a player or a pick. Even Delonte West would have been cut the second he got here, despite the fact that his skills fit well with this team. Coach Jackson has already said he wants less drama in the locker room this year, not more. Signing Delonte would be like a putting a gas bomb on the team bus. No way do we add someone who can't focus on the ultimate goal.


Not that anyone said they want West, but I'm just saying.


Also, I like Sasha more than Shannon. Much more. Even at 5 million a year. I just have more trust in the Machine than in Brown, even if Sasha has had an up-and-down career.


Those two FTs at the end of game 7 sold me. Forever, and ever, and ever...(come play with us Danny)...


Wes

UGH lewstrs I think we need a Happy Birthday Mrs. lakerMike
Suburban and you can put me next to Christina H. Thanks!
Mamba24

The morning sun brings new hope and I am blessed to be alive. I will read the roll set by my good friend Mamba24 from Chicago who will spread faith for the purple and gold. His word is our gospel today in the Lakers Blog.

Mamba24 - late night, son sick. It was a supposed to be a compliment. Somehow. Now about Andrew's knee surgery....

@ JUSTA - Thanks again!

@ LEWSTRS - I may just print yours and Justa's greetings and slip them in her B-day card!

@ EDWIN - Wonderful words of counsel from one who obviously has gathered wisdom and experience in the things that matter.

MY APOLOGIES to those who bristle at such trivial "off-topic" subject as my wife's birthday... WE NOW RETURN to our regular scheduled programming.

/ \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \

TWO REALITIES...

1. Dr. Buss pressuring Mitch to lower that bottom line salary number.
2. Phil Jackson playoff rotation of eight,,,MAYBE nine players.

IF camp arrives with both Sasha AND Brown in tow, we can expect the roster changes by the trading deadline in February.

Mike

Lewstrs,


I hate hearing Lamar talk. It's tortuous to me. But he's a really nice guy, so I'll give him a pass. But man, I couldn't watch a Lamar reality TV show if the fate of humanity rested on it.


Keep Sasha. Are you kidding me? I don;t think any other player on this roster--including Kobe--could have hit both of those FTs. Luckily, no one is going to trade Sasha's remaining 5 million for their trade exception, even with an added #1.


Wes

LAKERTOM and JON K and MAMBA24 . . .

It would mean something special to wifey if I could include B-day greetings from you to her! She knows about you three due to my frequent comments to her about you. I have collected kind words from JUSTA, LEWSTRS and EDWIN, deciding to print them and include them in her card.

So, PLEASE? (Thanks!)

Mike

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PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER
(02) RDLEE - DRIVER Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - RIDING SHOTGUN - With you on that partner
(04) #4
(05) MR & MRS. LAKERMIKE - SPIRITUAL HEALERS - GOOD VIBRATIONS . . . Today is Bynum's knee surgery AND my WIFE'S birthday. She is a great, GREAT woman and has agreed to share some of her festive and life-giving energy from this special day to Andrew's body. Trust me ~ nothing but good coming from this surgery! (Special thanks to JUSTA for making wifey feel a part of the family here, and thus wooing such a gift from her!)
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - SPECIAL HEALING ASSISTANT
(07) MAMBA24 - Get well soon Andrew we need you & THE BEAST!

And now back to our regular scheduled programming . . . I promise!

Mike

MM ~~ Wifey Loves you! How could have I forgotten?!?!? Please, could you send a greeting? THANKS!

Mike


AND FOR THE LAST TIME. . . REALLY!!! Back to our regular scheduled programming... (confession: I love my wife more than the LAKERS!)

Mike

LEWSTRS,

The island of Samoa chillin' with my Troy Polamalu jersey on(even though I'm a diehard Rams fan since their days in LA), bloggin' and waitin' to see what happens with Sasha.

RL1980,

Nice post regarding Tatum and Stingley. Perhaps they made it right in their hearts. Not long ago, I watched a documentary on Ali/Frazier and it's astounding how deep the bitterness and hatred runs between them. It's just really sad how some people can hold such a grudge against each other.

DBDH,

Can you just imagine LeBron calling Delonte, daddy? LOL!!!

Good Morning Blog Crue!

Mamba24, I loved your roll call for us girls!

Can't we just start the dang season already? I can't stand this! &*(#^$&#( it's making me crazy!

Oh, and happy birthday Mrs. Laker Mike!

Another twitter from this Brian Windhorst: The Cavs talked to Shannon Brown, according to Agent Bartelstein, but not serious.....
~~What does it mean? Lack of money so he goes back to the favorite whipping boy that is Mitch Kupchak. Last chance, will u get my boy or we'll talk again to another team? Agents are like union bosses who moves the pendulum going back and forth would not settle down, would not make any kind of commitment, agents interested of his commission, SB wanted respect in putting values to his dunking ability, feds interested of taxes can be generated by this new millionaires - all parties are bunch of slaves to the color of money.

raiderlaker - I really hope you (and others) don't have the wrong impression of me. Actually I'm very quick to forgive & forget. You can't possibly be happily married for 18 years if you don't have that quality lol! On here, I get upset when "people" start in on insulting women and think it's funny. I say my piece - usually trying to be as respectful as I can (sometimes I get a little hot headed in my retort) - but as long as an understanding is reached, I'm good. If no respect is forthcoming in return, and especially if the insults fly harder and faster, then no forgiveness is possible (blog speaking). As human beings, we all deserve that, even if we agree to disagree and move on. I would die to save another - regardless of their feeling towards any race, color, etc etc. We are all family.


Don't Blame Del Harris! - got you covered bruh...

NewMexicoLakerLifer thanks you for your support...

@ LakerMike,

I believe a man should never feel the need to apologize for speaking glowingly about his wife, EVER! I apologize on to YOU for displaying even the slightest inkling of "bristling", sir! Carry on!

DBDH!

Drew's gonna be just fine. It was a few foreign bodies, nothing huge. If he was able to play through the finals and be effective, then it's not a huge stretch to believe he'll heal up great. Also, if this was a big operation, then I have to believe the organization would push for a more expedient date, vs this late date.

Glad he doesn't have a Perkins-like injury!

GO LAKERS!!!!

LakerMike - we go off topic here all the time. We always come back to the Lakers. It's just the way it is, and most of us like it like that!

Oh yeah, the surgery...

Being a knee surgery [2x] veteran myself, things usually go pretty well if you rehab and train properly after the procedure. These athletes get the kind of medical treatment us weekend ballers only dream of dreaming about. Let's just hope AB's unlucky streak finally breaks, er, ends. Oops.

DBDH!

LakerMike,

I don't know if you're a spiritual man or not, but thank God for blessing her with another year of life and I wish her many, many more to come. Keep your woman happy by making everday seem like her birthday!!! Happy B-Day Mrs. LakerMike!!!

Lakeraholic
This offseason strains my mind
Training camp now, please


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Good morning, Lakerville! Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that Lakers are looking to move Sasha.

http://tinyurl.com/29sg6ky

Posted by: SamLL | July 28, 2010 at 08:26 AM
So the PLAN in on the way?

As human beings, we all deserve that, even if we agree to disagree and move on. I would die to save another - regardless of their feeling towards any race, color, etc etc. We are all family. Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 28, 2010 at 10:06 AM

GOD%%$##$%&&^&$$!!!! You gone make me cry and I don't just say that because you are JustAnotherMambaFan(Head of The Mamba Clan) and my BFF! That was Freakin BEAUTIFUL!!! I'm sorry Justa, I can't believe I've never done this to you before but I have to do it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SISTER!!!
Mamba24

@LAKERMIKE... LOL. Please add me to Mrs. LakerMike’s Birthday Bandwagon. Every great Lakers fan needs a the support of a great woman to become the better person and blogger that they are. Happy Birthday, Mrs. LakerMike for Mr. and Mrs. LakerTom. And may all your birthday wishes come true. I know Mike has had his eye on some very expensive birthday gifts but I don’t want to spoil the surprise coming tonight.
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TOM

Justa, I follow your comments, I don't have that perception of you, I just knew I could get you going with that comment about you not forgiving, all is good. You're a pretty witty person, it's just funny to get a reaction out of you sometimes ;)

Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS

"Why do we need Donte West when we have already accumulated a lot of tattoos in the Laker line up? "

Delonte West Edwin would have been cut immediately by the Lakers because he would only cost $500,000. That's a reason why he was traded from Cleveland to Minnesota. The Timberwolves are going to cut him since he only costs $500,000 and while that adds up to $1 million still of luxury taxes, it's much better than $8 million that he would have gotten had he not been cut.

And what it means for Shannon is that he is basically flirting about joining the Cavs and it is more than likely he is just doing that to get as much money for his new contract.

"Sasha will only be traded for a trade exception, not for a player or a pick."

If they trade him for a future pick it the Lakers would still have the trade exceptions Wes.

"Traded Player Exception: If a team trades away a player with a higher salary than the player they acquire in return (we'll call this initial deal "Trade #1"), they receive what is called a Traded Player Exception, also known colloquially as a "Trade Exception". Teams with a trade exception have up to a year in which they can acquire more salary in other trades (Trade #2, #3, etc) than they send away, as long as the gulf in salaries for Trade #2, #3, etc are less than or equal to the difference in salary for Trade #1. This exception is particularly useful when teams trade draft picks straight-up for a player; since draft picks have no salary value, often the only way to get salaries to match is to use a trade exception, which allows trades to be made despite unbalanced salaries. It is also useful to compensate teams for losing free agents as they can do a sign and trade of that free agent to acquire a trade exception that can be used later. Note this exception is for single player trades only, though additional cash and draft picks can be part of the trade."

It's all about the love, raiderlaker!

Thanks Mamba24 - it was heartfelt....

But Mitch/the Lakers are in a great spot to save money thanks to the two steals the team scored in the 2nd round of this draft. Right now Ebanks is looking like a solid mid-range 1st round pick, while Caracter is playing and looking like a high/top 10 lottery pick. That is amazing, btw.


But why make the move right now?


If the Lakers make all the moves right now, if they find a team to take Sasha's 5 million along with the #1 pick next year, we save 10 million on Sasha in taxes and salary (I think), and 6 million in future taxes and salary for the #1 pick. (This does not take into account any strike). That's 16 million we save by losing Sasha and the #1 pick today instead of keeping both.


If we wait and let Sasha's deal expire, and then sell the #1 pick, we pay 10 million for Sasha + taxes, and get 3 million for the pick. That's a cost of 7 million, vs 16 million.


Trading Sasha for a player is out of the question because it extends Laker contracts and offers no savings.


I think this makes sense...


Wes

@ Mamba24,

Please add "DBDH!" to the bandwagon as:

Don't Blame Del Harris! - THE HEALING POWER OF LAUGHTER

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This will probably fall on blind eyes or deaf ears but everyones shortsightedness and ability to forget easy causes a blind eye to be cast by some facts.

Bynum's recovery has never really been a Bynum issue. During his initial knee injury when he was expected to heal and come back around the playoffs and of course didn't wasn't much at all his fault nor his body's. For those that recall the details will let you know that after the playoffs were over, Bynum had his knee scoped and there was some loose material and fraying on the back of his kneecap. Had whoever that was looking at his knee to begin with taken the time and scoped his knee and cleared it out, he would have been healthy and playing the playoffs.

The second time around he struggled with his knee brace but still came back around. The brace was causing one of the muscles in his knee to have problems, and was restricting his mobility. This wasn't a recovery issue with his knee.

This last injury was a result of an existing tiny tear that was made worse. Had the tear been taken care of right away, we might not even be discussing this surgery in the first place. Chalk this one up to the doctors for another bad call.

Do you see a pattern here?

Injury 1, Landed on Odom's foot
Injury 2, Kobe crashed into his knee
Injury 3, Strained Achilles... an occassional bangup that falls under sprained ankles, strained hamstrings etc type issue. It happens. Not serious.
Injury 3, a pre-existing injury that wasn't an issue until a small hyperextension made it worse.

Or, Don't Blame Del The Funky Homosapien Harris.

Your choice.


DBDH!

Mrs. LakerMike,


You've married a good man who I hope loves you as much as he loves the Los Angeles Lakers. Considering that LakerMike has proven that he has the good sense to love the best team in sports, I'm assuming that he also has equally good taste in women.


Birthdays are those special days when we celebrate the joy and bounty of life itself. I am assuming that you are AWESOME and thus have a lot to celebrate.


So, Happy Birthday! I hope you are experiencing all the wonder that life provides you and that you deserve to celebrate.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Just as I thought....L.I.L.O. (Last in Last out)

What's wrong with Lamar's interviews, at least he pays attention to the questions and tries to give politcally correct answers. Yes Barnes does have superior public speaking skills, but remember, he went to college, in some way shape or for or another, for 4 years, at U.C.L.A......And I'm sure he's had experience with a few of these intro-press conferences....after all, how many teams in how many years? If you want to talk about the worst interview, how about Shaq????

"head of the bandwagons"....LOL

Maybe AB could get Elden Campbell's cadaver parts for his knee surgery. After all, Big E was such a stiff! I remember we used to say "Dead Man Walking" whenever the Lake Show ran the break.

DBDH!

1. NEMEIA and LAKERTOM... THANKS!

2. D-FISH ~ shame on you.

Mamba24, I loved your roll call for us girls! Posted by: longtimelakerlover | July 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM
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Good Morning LongTimeLakerLover! Thanks but truth be told I should have done it a long time ago. Now rest up and don't wish for the season to start too soon because I'm telling all of you as LakerTom says this is going to be A Season For The Ages. So many records broken, so many twists and turns I guarantee you won't be able to catch your breath. Of course at the end...Good overcomes Evil and The Freakin LA Lakers will stand tall with their 17th title tied with the Celtics. Phil will have his 12th Ring and 4th 3-peat, Kobe & Fish will both have their 6th Rings the same as MJ. And mamba24 will once again be forced by EastCoastJessie to put on his Purple & Gold Thong. Lol!
Mamba24
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PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL - BANDWAGON
*
(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER
(02) RDLEE - DRIVER Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - RIDING SHOTGUN - With you on that partner
(04) #4
(05) MR & MRS. LAKERMIKE - SPIRITUAL HEALERS - GOOD VIBRATIONS . . . Today is Bynum's knee surgery AND my WIFE'S birthday. She is a great, GREAT woman and has agreed to share some of her festive and life-giving energy from this special day to Andrew's body. Trust me ~ nothing but good coming from this surgery! (Special thanks to JUSTA for making wifey feel a part of the family here, and thus wooing such a gift from her!)
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - SPECIAL HEALING ASSISTANT
(07) MAMBA24 - Get well soon Andrew we need you & THE BEAST!
(08) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Drew's gonna be just fine. It was a few foreign bodies, nothing huge. If he was able to play through the finals and be effective, then it's not a huge stretch to believe he'll heal up great. Also, if this was a big operation, then I have to believe the organization would push for a more expedient date, vs this late date.
(09) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS

KB Blitz, you may be right on all these trade exceptions, with these savings generated in moving Sasha. I just have faith in Sasha. He gave us the Championship with his cool as cucumber two flawless free throws lat June. He tried to come back at the end of the season with new persona as defense specialist instead of a jerky gunner. There is always a redemption for someone who is trying his best and if he's traded for money in the future, let's try him first until ASG in February. He could be the saving grace that will propel the Lakers 2nd unit to next level. Now if you are telling me that Sasha will bring in Rudy Fernandez or Chris Paul, then that is a different story.

Mamba24 -

Thanks for doing the AB bandwagon...I started early this morning, and still have appts back to back all day...

I've always been in AB's corner, and I hope his surgery goes well today...Small minuscus tears are usually just a basic procedure these days...

AB please heal fast, and let's show all your doubters what you can do in a full healthy season...

 
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