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Photo Caption Contest: Ron Artest and Paul Pierce getting up close and personal

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We interrupt the free-agent news to bring you another reminder of why you love Ron Artest so much. It's unclear which game this encounter took place in the series. But most fans vividly remember the opening tip of Game 1 of the NBA Finals, with Artest locking arms with the Boston Celtics' Paul Pierce. Both fell to the ground and were assessed technical fouls. At the time, the Lakers thought that play helped set the tone in their 102-89 Game 1 victory and showed that they were a much different team than in their 2008 Finals loss to Boston.

This picture captures the intensity rather well and leads to the inevitable question about whether Artest was about to kiss Pierce on the lips. But this is far from a love story. Pierce obviously looks flustered with his mouth hung open and his headband out of place. Meanwhile, Artest is staring straight ahead with his eyes and forearm locked on Pierce, seemingly suggesting that there's no way Artest will cede an inch to Pierce.

The best caption to this photo will be featured in Friday's links post.

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest and Celtics forward Paul Pierce nearly come to blows with each other in Game 1 of the NBA Finals. Credit: Associated Press.

 
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I knew that would come out as a caption at one point MM.....but damn this late lol.

KB Blitz - LOL well I didn't see the photo until now.

MM

MM,

Any further on the rumor that the Lakers are interested in Anthony Morrow?

Marc B
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GO LAKERS!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT!!!!!

This should win "NBA Best Kiss Award"...lol!!!

Waahhhhhhhhh I miss the Lakers...is it Oct/Nov yet???

Inglewood? Say Queensbridge!

The eyes says it all.. Just look at their eyes..Ron artest is fiercely staring right at him... Pierce has his eyes closed!! LOL

Caption:

Moments after the opening tip of Game 1 of the NBA Finals, Ron Artest gives Paul Pierce the "Kiss of Death". At that precise moment, the entire basketball world KNEW the Lakers would be the 2010 Champs. The rest was just a formality.

We're on the Kiss-Cam!

Ron: I am sorry man, I am sorry.

Paul: For what Ron, for what?

Ron: For pulling down your shorts back in Indiana. I was in trouble and I had no other choice.

Paul: It is okay, it is okay, I know what you mean Ron. I had no choice back in 2008 when my team didn't have no motivation, so I had to fake a injury.

Both: It is good to be friends again. I missed you man.

Caption:

Paulina, you're so sexy, give me a big wet one babe.

Artest in his best Ivan Drago voice to Paulina: " I will break you!"

Ah Justa...you beat me to it!

Caption 2:

"I'm going to kiss you before I bend you over and stick it to ya."

Dang. Nine comments in, and my best two lines are already gone. I was going to go with ‘Paul, you’re a Celtics player and I hate you, but never play the Lakers again’ Or something.

The Kiss Cam line was great, too.

I believe this picture is part of the interplay between Artest and Pierce that earned them a double technical in game 7 not 1. In game 1, they locked arms behind their backs as they tumbled to the floor. It appears that Ron is telling Paul to kiss his championship aspirations good bye. This picture also shows the after effects of Artest's elbow "accidentally" brushing against Pierce's headband.

LTLF- I like this one better;

MASSIVE SEVENTEEN TEAM TRADE! The Puckwana Free Enterprise just announced…Bosh to New York, LeBron to Miami, Wade to Chicago…Milicic to Lakers…Clippers trade entire roster for picks 1-17 in the 2017 NBA Draft…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

"I'm going Tyson all up in your grill!!!"

Love the break in all the FA stuff MM. Thanks. I think this is going to generates some good LOL's.

I am trying not to care too much about this because it's all such a media imposed frenzy. But here's my mini-take. The media is going to have a huge letdown. LBJ is going nowhere. It's all about the cash and $30mm is a lot of bank. He gets all the big endorsement deals anyhow and hasn't done anything yet so what is moving to NYC or NJ or Miami really going to get him?

I think Bosh is the guy that gets the bigger deal out of this. He's only a good #2 yet he will be paid as a #1.

I think back on Lamar's biggest paycheck days - he was paid as a #1 guy - couldn't live up to the hype and now he's a #4. And he's not even 30.

Amare, Johnson, Dirk, etc. - they are all good #2's getting way overpaid and won't be able to bring home the 16 wins needed at the end of the playoffs.

The Lakers patience will pay off - I have no doubt. We will all be happy about this.

As for Farmar - he gets his menial payday, buys some humility and sits sulking in Indy. Another overhyped kid who left college too early.

Random and humble thoughts or the day from PLG.

Caption:

My psychiatrist taught me how to relax during times like this!

Wait a minute. What's that? Why do they call you Paula?

Ron: Don't you know who I am? I'm Ron Artest!


LTLF,...

"Walton's best year - starting at SF for the Lakers in 2006-07 season
11.4 points, 5 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 47% shooting, 39% 3-point shooting"

- Those are stats from his CONTRACT YEAR, and most of those stats came in the first few months of the season before he got INJURED (AGAIN). We were having a discussion about his contributions after he signed his 25 year contract, which you conveniently ignore.

"And over the course of the season, Luke contributed just as much as Ariza to the 2008-09 championship team. Sometimes it was as a starter. Sometimes it was off the bench. In the finals, Luke hit 80% of his shots to provide some scoring off the bench. But people like you want to dismiss all of Luke's contributions and overstate the importance of anything Ariza did.
That's what pisses me off."

- LOL. Are you seriously making an argument that Luke contributed as much as Ariza in 2008-2009? That's like comparing Samaki Walker's contributions to Robert Horry's. The reason people glorify Ariza's contributions is because he did it in the playoffs, and made big plays at crucial times. Stats can't measure that. Look, any way you slice it, Luke's contract has been a disaster, and your attempts to defend his contract is a no-win proposition.

For Pierce, it was the kiss of death.

Several years ago during a game, Artest pulled down Paul's shorts while they were running the court. Imagine what a road trip might be like.

Economy Bad?

John Salmons - Close to signing with Bucks offering 39 mil for 5 yrs...

Rudy Gay - Accepting Grizzlies extension of 81.6 mil for 5 yrs...

Channing Frye - close to signing 25 mil for 5 yrs from Suns, but waiting for better offer...

Darko Milicic - agrees to 20 mil for 4 yrs, with the Wolves...

Joe Johnson - close to accepting 119 mil for 6 yrs and staying in Atlanta..

And the game ends with the Zax still standing there "Unbudged in their tracks".

Rumor mill has Shaq coming to the Lakers for the MLE as a backup PG. Mitch thinks he can use his size to prevent the quick PGs from getting into the lane. And we all saw back in the day that he can run the break.

I am NOT Ariza.

Caption 3:

"This ain't 08. I will smack you silly, get the wheelchair ready."

Photo caption:

Rondo (far right) says:

Wait till after the game you two, then get a room, geesh.

this picture is from game 7. let's not forget to visit bostonglobe.com to say hi to our celtics friends...hehe.

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke . . .

Time to retire and save the Lakers cap space

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease . . .

you

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck . . .

LAKER TRUTH.... HELL OF A POST LMAO.

Longtimelakerfan must havn't been that long a fan trying to justified lukes contract lol funny shiii, thats like (mike) trying to convince lakers nation extending kwame brown contract for 9 mill a year was worth it.
We lost a lot of good players cuz mitch threw money in the laps of worthless players like brian cook-kwame brown-luke walton, the result not able to resign guys like ariza are my all time fav ronny t.

LAKER TRUTH,

>>>Those are stats from his CONTRACT YEAR, and most of those stats came in
>>>the first few months of the season before he got INJURED (AGAIN). We
>>>were having a discussion about his contributions after he signed his 25 year
>>>contract, which you conveniently ignore.

Once again, you fabricate your own "TRUTH".

"God" specifically stated (and I quote): "In Artest, we get the toughest defender on the team, and a guy who we could not have won a title without this year. Moreover, we also get a guy who had the worst offensive year of his career, and yet still did more than Walton could ever dream of doing in his best years. "

Nowhere in that boastful statement did the poster claim anything about Luke's current contract. He EXPLICITLY stated that Luke couldn't dream of getting better offensive stats than Artest's last year with the Lakers.

So once again, you are wrong.

I was correct in pointing out that Luke did have a better statistical year than Artest's last year.

You were wrong
and I was right.

Do you see how that works?

You: wrong
Me: right

Get used to it if you keep wanting to make up a fantasy scenario about Luke's contributions to the Lakers.

"you're a one-hit wonder boy!. give me a box of wheatiesss!!!!"

LTLF, I have probably been watching Laker basketball longer than you, and if you continue to delude yourself into thinking that Luke graciously "GAVE" his starting position to Ariza, and THAT is the reason Trevor took over (as opposed to Trevor being a substantially better player than Luke), then I guess this is futile.

Posted by: God | July 01, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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God,

Regarding this issue, LTLF is correct.
You may want to consider changing your user name because how can God be wrong?
Besides, it's really pretentious.

"Ariza to Continue Starting"
Published by Mike Trudell on March 11, 2009

"Prior to L.A.’s win against Houston, Luke Walton approached head coach Phil Jackson with an idea: why not see if L.A.’s flow worked better with Trevor Ariza starting and Walton coming off the bench?

Jackson concurred, and both players were effective in L.A.’s 102-96 win. Ariza scored eight points with six boards, three assists and two steals in 29 minutes, while Walton logged eight points alongside five boards and two assists in 23 minutes.

Jackson said the team would stick with that lineup for the foreseeable future.

Ariza had protested a starting role earlier in the season, but apparently changed his tune when the bench wasn’t producing much in the last few weeks. After the Houston win, Ariza said that “It’s cool” for him to continue starting, as long as it’s helping the team."

http://my.lakers.com/blogs/category/players/trevor-ariza/

sorry about the reposting

Ron: No tongue, Paula.

Whether this was from Game 1 or 7, no matter.
The tone was set when Ronron went to the floor in the armlock with Paula.
It stated, quite loudly: THIS IS NOT 2008! YOU WANNA GET FROGGY? HOW'S THIS???
From that moment on, the Lakers played the best D they ever had, with Artest leading the way with constant in the shorts and face of Paula and the rest.

Caption 1
Yeah, looks like Doc didn't set the DeLorean to 2008, McFly...

Caption 2
You'd best call for that wheelchair now, Paula. Then ask me where I'll put it.

Caption 3
Look at me real close...do I look like Trevor?

Caption 4
You got my Wheaties?

Cpation 5
Remember to thank my psychiatrist Paul.

PP didnt want anything to do with Ron Ron! . . . D P O Y ! ! !

I know it was you, Fredo

You haven't seen me off my crazy pills yet b#@$%!

LTLF-

If you had the choice, would you rather:

a) dump Luke's contract whatever way possible (trade, retirement, etc.)?
b) continue to have Luke's as a player under the current terms of his deal?

Just askin . . .

Ron takes the "In Your Face" style of Defense to the next level...

joke and lol all you want... that is one intense photo. i love it!

Art-

That article wreaks of Magic swearing up and down that the Lakers were Kareem's team when we all really knew better.

Caption Contest:

"Boston Sucks! Boston Sucks! Boston Sucks! Boston Sucks!"

@COMPTONS FINEST "We lost a lot of good players cuz mitch threw money in the laps of worthless players like brian cook-kwame brown-luke walton, the result not able to resign guys like ariza are my all time fav ronny t."

FYI--Without Kwame's Outrageous, But Thankfully Expiring Contract, NO PAU GASOL!!!!!

END OF STORY...
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GO LAKERS!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT!!!!!

(Dialogue underscored by Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You, best if you put it on in the background whilst reading)


RA: Paul, I've always loved this silly little head band of yours.
PP: I know, Ron.
RA: I've wanted to be close to you ever since I sang that little diddy about pulling down your pants.
PP: I know, Ron.
RA: Now everything's so crazy, here in the NBA Finals and all, I'm feeling so intense, like I've never felt before, and-
PP: Ron?
RA: Yes, Paulie?
PP: Shut up and kiss me, Ron.


...and I----ee-----I----ee-----I will always loooooove yoouuuuuuuuu...


LET'S GO MITCH!!!!!!!!!

All kidding aside, that was a great picture of the perfect tone setting moment to these NBA Finals. Most of the games were played at the Celtic's pace and having Ron Artest gave Phil the toughness he needed to make life tough for Paul Pierce. That's allwe asked for, Ron gave us a little more, especially in game 7. I'd like to say, "Thanks Ron Artest. You earned it."

"God" specifically stated (and I quote): "In Artest, we get the toughest defender on the team, and a guy who we could not have won a title without this year. Moreover, we also get a guy who had the worst offensive year of his career, and yet still did more than Walton could ever dream of doing in his best years. "

Nowhere in that boastful statement did the poster claim anything about Luke's current contract. He EXPLICITLY stated that Luke couldn't dream of getting better offensive stats than Artest's last year with the Lakers. --Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan

LTLF, let's clarify something here. Perhaps I was not clear, or perhaps I was and you are trying to craft an argument to suit your own position, but my point was that in his wildest dreams Luke could not have done what Artest did THIS YEAR, WITH THIS TEAM. To cite statistics from three years ago with a vastly inferior roster is about as relevant as citing Luke's numbers from his college days.

Simply put, in 2009-10 Ron Artest had what was by far his worst offensive year. Nonetheless, had you put Luke in Ron's place THIS YEAR, Luke would never have come close to posting those kinds of numbers. So, for about $1 million more per year, the Lakers get a guy who has his worst year ever and still performs at a level that Luke could never achieve. And that's on offense, which is not why Ron was brought in. When you add the off the charts difference in these two players' defensive abilities, Luke and his contract can truly be seen for the absurdity that they are.

If this isn't persuasive to you, then by chance what kind of numbers do you think Artest would have produced as the starting small forward on the 2006-2007 Lakers? A bit more than 11 ppg, right?

Bosh/James/Wade may have a dream trio in Miami if the unite, but they will never have a big five of BYNUM, GASOL, ODOM, ARTEST, KOBE...


The better team will be in Chicago with Noah, Bosh, James, Wade and Rose... but that is not even in any deals..


LAKERFANS, DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE BIG FIVE??? I STILL CAN NOT BELIEVE OTHERS LIKE HOBBIT AND KBLITZ ARE BEGGING FOR A TRADE THAT WILL DISMANTLE OUR CHAMPIONSHIP CORE OF BIG FIVE!!!


GIVE THIS TO ANY decent COACH and decent POINT GUARD AND THIS BIG FIVE CAN EASILY WIN 60 GAMES... Are you kidding me?


BYNUM - biggest dominant CENTER in the league right now
GASOL - most SKILLED BIG MAN IN THE LEAGUE
ARTEST - BEST PHYSICAL PERIMETER DEFENDER IN THE LEAGUE
BRAYNT - BESTPLAYER IN THE PLANET
ODOM - BEST INCONSISTENT PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE!

JERRY BUSS - best owner in the league...

"You never close your eyes, anymore when I kiss your lips..."

sorry fatty - great minds and all....


Should I be flattered? Or scared....?


:)


As if slapping each other's butts wasn't enough...

this was written: Perhaps I was not clear, or perhaps I was and you are trying to craft an argument to suit your own position, but my point was that in his wildest dreams Luke could not have done what Artest did THIS YEAR, WITH THIS TEAM. To cite statistics from three years ago with a vastly inferior roster is about as relevant as citing Luke's numbers from his college days.

my response: you weren't clear.

this was written: Perhaps I was not clear, or perhaps I was and you are trying to craft an argument to suit your own position, but my point was that in his wildest dreams Luke could not have done what Artest did THIS YEAR, WITH THIS TEAM. To cite statistics from three years ago with a vastly inferior roster is about as relevant as citing Luke's numbers from his college days.

my response: you weren't clear.

Most important thing for our Lakers is continuation, not trades and big agents signing. Liitle tweak here and there and Bench upgrades will be formed.


Watch how teams in the WEST are gearing up for TWO 7 footers each. It is a testament to LAKERS SUPERIORITY!!


Paul, you're a better player than me, so I'm going to try to act tough for a pix, so that all the little twitter birds out in La-La land can write their little girly-boy captions for it.

regarding all the Luke bashing (seems like a rite of summer now):

Luke is one of those players that impacts a game without impacting a stat sheet. Back in 2009 when he helped the team by saying Ariza was better off starting than him, it made the 1st quarter team really quick and that became our post season identity: strike quick and defend hard, never relienquishing the lead built early. This season he helped the team in the regular season by becoming a de facto coach during his long injury rehab (remember we never replaced Rambis, so I'm suer the extra head and hands was put to good use), then he helped with some timely D an assist here, a rebound there and a couple of points in the playoffs when lots of starters wre on the bench.


Will his stats this season garner him a place in the Laker Hall of Fame? Not likely, but he'll end up a Laker lifer (even if he finishes out his NBA carreer with another team). He'll be like Rambis, Shaw, Larry Drew et al who were never Laker greats, but understood that the role players have to do what is expected of them.

Luke understands this, he just wants to help the team win any way possible. That's why Phil, Kobe, Mitch and the rest of the Laker insiders appreciate him. If you you want imagineer a team you can create on NBA Live that replaces Luke Walton with Rudy Gay or John Salmons or Matt Barnes go right ahead. I'm sure that lots of fans would rather see more points coming out of the back up small forward (really 2nd back up as Kobe usually takes some time at the 3 over the course of a game and with Lamar looking to get quicker and spend some time there I'd expect Luke to play even less).


Regarding his contract, he only accepted what was offered, many have done worse, more will do so in the future. Just look at Joe Johnson's max deal.

kb all day -

WHAT'S UP HOMIE...glad to see you aboard...

No more National Basketball Development League, you are now on 'Prime Time' baybee...

Impacting the game without impacting the stat sheet is right up there with "it's not about the money"

Phil and FISHER is LAKERS priority, bith have our=tstanding offer on the table. Jerry BUSS made an offer of what he thinks is fair to them, to the Lakers organization, to the LAkerfans. It is up Phil and Fish if they want to come back. But, Jerry Buss has done a remarkable generous job by securing the most important FIVE out of seven. Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Braynt, Odom, Phil and Fish.

The TRUTH..the TRUTH? I "CAN" HANDLE THE TRUTH!!...

"this was written: Perhaps I was not clear, or perhaps I was and you are trying to craft an argument to suit your own position, but my point was that in his wildest dreams Luke could not have done what Artest did THIS YEAR, WITH THIS TEAM. To cite statistics from three years ago with a vastly inferior roster is about as relevant as citing Luke's numbers from his college days.

my response: you weren't clear."

Posted by: hobbitmage

Well, sorry about that. I guess I assumed that you would be able to figure out that I wasn't comparing one player's performance with this year's team with some completely irrelevant experience of a different player on a horrible team in another year. As unclear as I was, I'm surprised there hasn't been an outcry comparing Luke to Kobe Bryant, since Luke's 11.4 ppg in 2006 is about twice as good as Kobe's numbers from 1996, so clearly Kobe is overpaid (or Luke is underpaid).

Is this considered a "touch" foul?

Wow lots of good captions. It's going to be a tough time picking a winner. To help determine this, not only are bribes accepted, they're highly encouraged. J/K

Just a heads up. We got a new post up

MM

Hey Paula, we said "Kiss Our @$$!" not "Kiss Artest"...

MM - if you choose my caption, I'll buy you a beer when you take me to the ASG in LA.

@ God


Comparing Luke Walton to Ron Artest is like comparing Quinton Ross to Allan Houston. They are two different styles of player that share the 3.


Your argument that Luke couldn't do what Ron does for the team is easily refuted. Ron could never bring to the Lakers what Luke already brings:
-In depth knowledge of the triangle and how best to create offensive space within it.
-A true 'team first' mentallity.
-Good post entry passes.
-Good passes in general.
-Luke has a better handle than Artest and posts up better than Artest.
-Knowledge and inuition regarding his teammates, where they like to get the ball and how best to include them in the offense when he's on the floor.


Luke plays chess, Ron plays UFC. The two can't be compared, really, but if you were to combine them, you'd have a fierce player on your hands. But since live gene splicing hasn't been approved by the FDA, we'll have to wait. I'm not bashing Ron, we don't win the NBA Finals this year (especially game 7) without him. But I'd venture to say that we also don't win it without Luke. No stats to back up my feeling, but when he played decent D on PP, helped the offense gain some focus and fed the post when he was in, he was doing his job and we won games.


So no thanks to all you folks clamoring for Luke to quit, Mitch to trade him or any other crazy scenario. I prefer to think of this number: 4 out of Luke's 7 seasons with the Lakers have resulted in trips to the NBA Finals, 2 of which we have put up in the rafter s at Staples: How many banners have all those potential 'Luke-fers' hung?

PJ BACK according to ESPN. WooHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>>a) dump Luke's contract whatever way possible (trade, retirement, etc.)?
>>>b) continue to have Luke's as a player under the current terms of his deal?

Dump him like a hot rock.

Don't misconstrue my view on Luke. With his string of injuries, I think he has not performed up to the level that he's being paid. And if they could dump his 5 million in salary right now, then maybe that means they could re-sign both Fish and Brown and might be more willing to spend more of that MLE to bring in some help as well.

But since that isn't possible, what I hope for is the best possible situation, which is that Luke gets healthy and helps the team, like he helped them in 2006-07 through 2008-09. When healthy, Luke might be called the best 8th man in the league (and is an okay 6th or 7th man, when injuries require that).

htj,

Regarding Lukes requst for Ariza to start, if you didn't like the first article, here's another, different author, different day, same report, Luke suggested that Trevor start.

In March, after recommending Phil Jackson to, Luke Walton was moved to the bench and was replaced with Trevor Ariza. Jackson hoped he can spark the bench activity which dwindled throughout the year. The change caused a surge in Ariza's production and allowed Walton to play less minutes against opposing teams' starting players. The Lakers were dealing with giving up leads in games and receiving inconsistent production from the reserves.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/2008–09_Los_Angeles_Lakers_season

>>>If this isn't persuasive to you, then by chance what kind of numbers do you
>>>think Artest would have produced as the starting small forward on the
>>>2006-2007 Lakers? A bit more than 11 ppg, right?

Definitely. But that is not the comparison I disputed.

MM,

You are surely the most fantastic blog regulator that could possibly exist in the known universe. Even the unknown universe.
Does that count as a bribe?

When "Spin the Bottle" goes horribly wrong...

PJ coming back!!! Piece number 1 in place. Come on D-Fish!

"Comparing Luke Walton to Ron Artest is like comparing Quinton Ross to Allan Houston. They are two different styles of player that share the 3."

Jamie, on this we agree. One is a legitimate starter who has the ability to dominate a game on both ends of the floor, and the other is a bench player. As for your refutations, I think there is a lot to argue with.

I'd definitely rather have Luke as a coach, but to suggest that he is a better low post player or a better passer is plain crazy. Neither guy can jump over a phone book and yet only one can get rebounds and scores on layups. I don't disagree that Luke "does the little things" but that's not really the point. For a guy who is, as you say, really a 3rd team small forward, I'm perfectly content with what Luke contributes. My beef is with his salary. Were he paid like a 3rd string SF, there would be no problem at all....

Although it worked out this time, kissing something Ugly & Green does NOT turn you into a World Champion...

Can I at least have a kiss first Ron?

Moreover, it isn't as if it should be difficult to see the relative value of a Ron Artest when you simply scroll up the screen and look at the photo that started this thread. You have never seen, nor will you ever see Luke in that kind of situation, because he is not a physical player--which is problematic when you are also not an athletic and graceful player.

btw, in your initial post you wrote:

" yet still did more than Walton could ever dream of doing in his best years. "

Your comparison quite clearly was to compare Artest's year last year to Walton's best years. If what you intended was to compare Walton's offense last year to Artests, then you are correct, Artest was much better. Though Walton was injured.

Just to save time..

If both Walton and Artest were fully healthy and played the same number of minutes with the same set of players in the same offense, then here's what I think would happen:

Artest would out-score Luke, though he would shoot a slightly lower % than Luke.

Artest would out-rebound him by a little.

Luke would get more assists than Artest.

Artest would play much better defense.

Artest would also get more technical fouls.

Luke would turn the ball over less than Artest.

Overall, Artest would be the much better player. Mostly because his defense is far superior. Offensively, Artest would be slightly better than Luke.

That's given equal healthy and opportunity to both players.

With Luke's bad health, it's not even a contest.

espn reported PJ is coming back!!!

espn reported PJ is coming back!!!

BEST NEWS ALL DAY!!!

Artest: "just wanted to know what the Truth tasted like."

37 meets 34. Shutdown Time

>>>I'd definitely rather have Luke as a coach, but to suggest that he is a better
>>>low post player or a better passer is plain crazy.

I'd have to agree that Artest is probably the better low post player. Luke is a better passer out of the post, but Artest is a much much better scorer in the post - he just out-muscles his guy to get a close shot.

As for passing, Luke is better.

Artest averages 3.2 assists per game for his career in 34.7 minutes per game.
Luke averages 2.5 assists, but in 18.6 minutes.
To make it a fair comparison, on a per-minute basis, Luke gets .13 assists and Artest gets .092

>>>Neither guy can jump over a phone book and yet only one can get
>>>rebounds and scores on layups

Artest - 5.0 rebounds per game for his career
Luke - 3.1 rebounds per game for his career
Again, evening out the minutes - Luke gets 0.17 rebounds per minute & Artest gets 0.14

So they're pretty close, but Luke actually gets slightly more rebounds per minute he's on the floor than Artest does.

How surprising do you find that?

And here's another tip -

Though Artest scores way more points (0.44/min to Luke's 0.29), Luke shoots a higher field goal % for his career (Artest = .421, Luke = .439)

So there you go. When you compare them directly on exactly what they've produced over their careers,

Artest is a better (though less efficient) scorer
Luke is a better passer and rebounder

Though there are no stats for it, I don't think anyone will dispute that Artest is a much better defender than Luke.

MM -

If you pick my caption, you automatically are on board with every bus, train, and suburban I make in the future...

This comes with a window VIP seat, with unlimited drinks, peanuts and pretzels...

If that doesn't work, we can check the personal stash in the trunk...lol

"Paul, does my breath smell as fishy as your wheelchair stunt?"

"I know your thinking. This is one crazy dude who took on the entire crowd at the Palace. Next time he loses it, whole teams could be killed. Only meds can control him, and you are wondering, did he take his meds or not. Are you willing to take that chance? Go ahead, make my day......punk?"

Caption: "I love you man!"

Caption: Ron-"This is what I'm going to do with the trophy, Paul...."

Caption:" I love you, man!"

Uh, guys, this isn't exactly what we meant by "Man on Man"...

Ron:" OK, Paul, I'll kiss your lips, but you can kiss my @$$!"

I'm playing with a weggie, man. Super uncomfortable

Photo Cap:
RonRon- Kiss my Wheaties!

caption: This is Ron Artest. Your picking a fight with Ron Artest. I'm Ron Artest. Queensbridge.

caption 2: Ron in his best Michael Corleone voice: I know it was you Paul. You broke my heart. You broke my heart.

 
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