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-- The Daily News' Vincent Bonsignore argues the Lakers and Jordan Farmar made the right decision in severing ties. Bonsignore believes Farmar didn't fit the Lakers' system, and the system didn't allow Farmar to display his skills.

-- ESPN the Magazine's Ric Bucher reports that the Lakers and Derek Fisher have reopened negotiations.

-- The Orange County Register's Janis Carr highlights the excitement of draft picks Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter over being with the Lakers.

-- ESPN Los Angeles' Andy Kamenetzky breaks down what it means for the Lakers to agree to terms with former Clipper guard Steve Blake.

-- Laker Noise's Roland Lazenby implores Lakers owner Jerry Buss and General Manager Mitch Kupchak to pay Fisher more than what they're offering.

-- ESPN.com's Marc Stein explains the value former Laker Byron Scott brings to the Cavaliers as their head coach.

-- Forum Blue and Gold's Darius believes the Blake acquisition is exactly what the Lakers need.

-- Silver Screen and Roll's Josh Tucker explains what makes Phil Jackson such a great coach.

Tweet of the Day:"That's crazy I'm stilll up And I have to work out at 8am But tomorrow is holiday I just got back from firework shopping 24hr firework place" -- RONARTESTCOM (Lakers forward Ron Artest)

Reader Comment of the Day: "Happy 4th of July everybody! Party like you're the World champion!" -- Gilbert Battung

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Los Angeles Laker Pau Gasol at team practice before Game 5 of the 2010 NBA Finals basketball series in Boston. The Lakers went on to win the series and the title. Credit: Adam Hunger / Reuters

 
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Hey, MM, you were supposed to take the day off!

Repost:

phred wisely wrote:

"Nothing personal to anybody, but this is my second summer of watching the blog discuss free agent money, and I’ve read about a couple hundred versions of people posting ‘so and so’s contract is too much, this guy is asking for too much, let the selfish (*&(#@! walk, that extra 1 or 2 million needs to go somewhere else cause otherwise Jerry Buss will never make any money’

And every time, Jerry Buss makes the offer, gets the contract, and spends the money. Kobe’s extension, Drew’s new contract, Odom’s new contract, Luke’s horrible unwieldy albatross of a contract; whatever. And the team wins and makes it worth his while.

Come to think of it, Jerry Buss has always done this. Every single time.

Fish will be back, and it’s awesome being a Lakers fan"


C'mon phred. If everyone was as smart and reasonable as you, where would the blog be? No posts saying Fish is a horrible player and a greedy hypocrite. No posts saying Buss is evil and doesn't want to pay him. No posts saying Luke's contract led to Gulf oil spill. No suggestions that we trade Bynum and Walton and a bag of old basketballs for Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Wilt Chamberlian's re-animated corpse.


Thanks phred, for a voice of both reason and hilarious absurdity.


Tom D.

The Celtics are trying to trade 'sheed to Suns for Barbosa and also for Rudy Fernandez of Blazers. I think they will do away with Tony Allen and Wallace and possible dump Ray Allen contracts. Danny Ainge has a knack of good players who can be developed into great ones. I wish the Sun management and Blazers will junk the trade. Suns will lose Amare so they have a lot of cap space.

Can Lakers get Rudy Fernandez for the remaining $1.8M on the MLE? He made that amount last season and on a team option of $ 2.1 next season. I think Blazers will not let him go without something in return. How about offering Mbenga or Powell. Rudy is a streak shooter and great for the triangle. He is also very close to Pau and with a little cajoling from his countrymen, he would rather move to the Lakers than go with the Celts.

Mark Medina - Here's a link you might want to add

The NBA'a only female scout -

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/07/the-nbas-only-female-scout/


THE BRING BACK DFISH SUBURBAN CARAVAN

Like the Secret Service, we have unlimited black Suburbans
to escort DFish to the Lakers training camp in El Segundo...

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ll - - -PAY DEREK FISHER -------]
L___(0)l______l__ ____l(0) J

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/_____l______l__ ___\____
ll - - -SIGN DEREK FISHER ------]
L___(0)l______l__ ____l(0) J

====------ === ------===
/_____l______l__ ___\____
ll - - -LOVE DEREK FISHER ------]
L___(0)l______l__ ____l(0) J

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/_____l______l__ ___\____
ll-- FISH WILL NEVER LEAVE -----]
L___(0)l______l__ ____l(0) J

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Laker Nation -

Have a great and safe Fourth of July...

No drinking and driving...

"The Fish That Saved LA" Will Be Back In A Lakers Uniform. I've said it before, maybe not as humorously as phred, that Dr. Buss & Mitch Kupchak will get it done.

As to the Haters, including one who obviously is a disgruntled Jizz fan posing as a Laker fan (Yeah, you know who you are! Leave Fisher's family health issues outta this!), Fish brings more than his basketball skills to this team (and he did it for the Jizz coming off the bench & all the way to the Western Conference Finals with a Jizz team that wasn't that talented & hasn't done anything special since).

"The Fish That Saved LA" continuously comes up with timely shots and plays (both defensively and offensively) when it counts, THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!

We, the fans, the Lakers players & the Lakers organization do not want to be hearing about "The Fish That Saved Miami" or "The Fish That Saved Cleveland" or "The Fish That Saved Beantown" in the 2011 Playoffs!!!!!!

"The Fish That Saved LA" NEVER Yelled "Cancun! Cancun!" NOPE!

He's Always Been The "VOICE OF REASON, REFLECTION & REVELATION!"

He's Rallied the Troops Game After Game After Game......

Hell, General George A. Custer Could've Used Him at "Little Bighorn"!

We Need "The Fish That Saved LA" Back for Another Three-Peat!!!!!!

WE'VE GOT THE "KOBE BEEF"

WE'VE GOT THE "SPANISH RICE"

COMPLETE THE "LAKERS SMORGASBORD" & COME BACK FISH!!!!!!
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

GET ON THE BUSS, THE "JERRY BUSS" EXPRESS!!!!!!

Happy 4th, people.

PS--HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY EVERYONE!!!!!!

KEEP IT SAFE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING INSANE AWAITING THE 2010-2011 SEASON......
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

GET ON THE BUSS, THE "JERRY BUSS" EXPRESS!!!!!!

Lebron drama will be over in the next two days. Conventional wisdom, he will go to NY to join Amare, Tony Parker and/or Monta Ellis. David Lee will go to T'wolves. I think the Bulls will get Bosh and Wade bonanza that leaves the Heat and Cavs empty so they will try to chase the remaining stars left.

Before the F/A moratorium ends, we will resolve the Fisher dilemma, both should give way in order to get a deal. Just like the majority in this blog, I'm looking at 7-8M for 2 years as a fair deal. Fisher should prepare his future with the Lakers as an asst. coach or f/o asst. Being the President of the players union, he is very qualified to handle these jobs. As a player, he can be relied on important segment of the game, no longer a work horse but more a mentor and a closer. Lakers should preserve him during the playoffs. Let Blake and possibly the return of Shannon Brown do the legwork during the season.

I hope PJ will play the two rookies: Ebanks and Caracter. On his last year as coaching, he should allow some changes in his style by accelerating the transition of rookies to veterans.

I wonder if we're done in acquiring "good" players. We don't need big name players who will drive salaries into deeper luxury taxes. We need new players, unknown guys who can shoot in the perimeter playing under the radar of the Jackson triangle for only 3 minutes. I believe there are a lot of players who are capable to fit that description. They will replace Kobe or Artest for a breather and will keep up the lead rather than surrender it. They will play when the 2nd team are not producing, will be the 12th and 13th player in the Lakers roster.

LMAO @Marc B (With a 'C')

WE'VE GOT THE "KOBE BEEF"

WE'VE GOT THE "SPANISH RICE"

COMPLETE THE "LAKERS SMORGASBORD" & COME BACK FISH!!!!!!

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Seafood is very healthy for you...

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY 16 TIME NBA CHAMPION LA LAKERS NATION
Have fun and enjoy yourself, but don't forget those designated drivers.
We want you here to Celebrate when we tie The Celtics for #17 Next year
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ALL TOGETHER NOW!!
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That’s 2 better than any NBA team ever had before
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We got (2) Time Finals MVP, By the name of Name Kobe Bryant
He scored more points than an entire team without even trying
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Thank you Mamba24 for Happy Freedom Day roll call. We blog all year out in extreme joy and at times marred in disappointments. We only disagree on menial things about Drew or Bosh, of Luke and/or of Fisher's contract. Oftentimes, we take our freedom to blog for granted and some people abuse it. However, for those citizens who immigrated to USA or those Americans who served in harm's way, they can attest what 4th of July truly means and its importance to a fresh beginning at any age in their new adopted country. Many citizens in the world do not live free. There are many who are persecuted daily because of political beliefs, suffered from economic bondage due to class distinction, religiously ostracized and majority have no other social or sports outlets except hard labor till death.

just sent this to Roland Lazenby
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if there is a definition of anti-BB, that is Fish. add some chips and put him to dry.

Lakers fans like any other fans r sentimental, nostalgic, melancolic and also romantic (his daughter cancer fits the notion).

he does not fit future plans. the team labored thrugh the season. because of the old man. the only notion related to his intangibles is PUJIT (pull up jumper in transition). a misses one. and another one.

what other PG in the league can’t make an entry pass, can’t lead a fast break, can’t make a layup??????????????????

Fisher shoul pay the team to be on the bench. for another speech.
leader?
together with Gassy he throw Kobe under the bus after the Memphis game. because he wanted more TOUCHES.
for "selFISH" reasons.
it was his contract year.

enough of this slow nightmare.
how long we'll drag out this letargy?
put him out of his misery.
NOW

from Smushcalade to Fishcalade.

the dark age of the Lakers PG era.

@Edwin

No way egomaniac Lebron goes anywhere and leaves 30 mil on the table and that 35,000 sq ft palace he just built. He's staying in Cleveland and taking the money and mediocrity. Who's NY got to offer to get Parker or Ellis?

No way Wade leaves Miami either. 30 Million buys a lot of private jet rides to see his kids in Chicago.

Bosh knows there aren't really big marketing opportunities for him no matter where he lands. He also knows he's not winning a title on his own. He can barely lead a half decent roster to a playoff berth in the crappy east. He wants a 6 year max money deal and is basically shopping himself as such. It still hinges on a Toronto s/t, but they know they'll never win big with him so they're giving him what he wants. They'll still want something in return and Chicago has some pieces they'll covet. Bosh will probably end up there and take Chicago to an annual 2nd round playoff exit for the next 5 years. That'll still be Rose's team.

None of these dudes are going anywhere without 6 year deals for guaranteed max money. As they've already shown, none of them really want to win THAT bad. It's why they're not Kobe. And it's also why were in a got spot to when a few more rings while 24 still has some gas in the tank.

Many citizens in the world do not live free. There are many who are persecuted daily because of political beliefs, suffered from economic bondage due to class distinction, religiously ostracized and majority have no other social or sports outlets except hard labor till death. Posted by: Edwin Gueco | July 04, 2010 at 11:26 AM
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Happy Holiday Edwin and a very Appropriate message for this July 4th Independence Day.
KUDOS SIR! and ...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!
Mamba24(vers 2.0)

htj,

Let's see what will happen in the next few days. The rumor mills are trending in that manner. There is a three team trade being worked out Al jefferson goes to Warriors, David Lee to T'wolves and Monta Ellis to Knicks. Based on the motivation of the three teams, that is feasible. As you said LBJ is egomaniac, well he will be embraced the billion dollar lure being paraded by Manhattan combined with endorsements which he may not realize in Cleveland. Wade is getting a royal treatment in Chicago and he loves it. He is either raising the ante on the Miami but it's possible he will play in the City where he lives.

I don't care who goes where...

Bring it on...and see if you can stop the 3Peat Bus...

I'm "All IN"...

I don't care who goes where...Bring it on...and see if you can stop the 3Peat Bus...I'm "All IN"...Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 04, 2010 at 12:01 PM
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OOOH WEEEE!!!! They say those Laker Nation people are some badddd mother ..shut your mouth! But I'm talking about THE LAKERNATION!
Then we can dig it! Rumble young man Rumble!!!
mamba24(vers. 2.0)

I'm with LEWSTRS bring em on! THE CHAMP IS HERE!! THE CHAMP IS HERE!!

LEWSTRS… Somehow, I seem to have lost my ticket to THE BRING BACK DFISH SUBURBAN CARAVAN. Can you somehow squeeze me in? Next to Tom Daniels and Edwin would work fine.
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MAMBA… Thanks for the holiday roll call. Still sends shivers up my spine to think of what this team has done. Can’t wait for Phil’s Last Stand, Lakers catching the Celtics, and Kobe matching MJ.
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OUCHHHHH… Your over-the-top sometimes hilarious but often buffoonish hatred of Pau and Fish is “REALLY” starting to sputter. Soon you’ll be Hobbitmage on steroids. The drunken blog Tea Partier. Do you ‘REALLY” think the Lakers would have won the last two titles without Pau and Fish?
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MARC B… I loved the “Fish That Saved LA” line. Like phred sagely pointed out, Dr. Buss and Mitch will come through in the end as always. They know Fish is the heart and soul of this team. It would be like MM deciding not to bring Mamba 24 back for “Phil’s Last Stand” because of virtual bucks.
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TOM

"The in-laws are coming! The in-laws are coming!"
(Will be arriving Thursday and staying for a week)

My wife has me cleaning the carpets, painting, hanging pictures, repairs, and in the words of the King of Siam, "etc ..etc.."

She cracks a mean whip to keep me going, with only a few breaks here and there to check on a Fisher signing.

Fatty - Who is kinda liking this whip action, "Thank you master, please may I have another?"

It would be like MM deciding not to bring Mamba 24 back for “Phil’s Last Stand” because of virtual bucks. Posted by: LakerTom | July 04, 2010 at 12:14 PM
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Say it aint so LakerTom! LMAO! Happy Holidays to you and every one of those 3 generations of Laker fans my brother!
mamba24

Fatty - Who is kinda liking this whip action, "Thank you master, please may I have another?" Posted by: Fatty | July 04, 2010 at 12:26 PM
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Stop it Fatty! Stop it Now!! ROFLMAO!! haha!
Mamba24

Fatty,

Nice link post on the female scout.
Something unique and different and certainly an attention grabber!


Edwin,

Nice reminder for us all.


Marc B

Lol, making me hungry.

Mamba24... Thanks for the LAKER NATION 4th of July RollCall. It helps you get thru the Laker withdrawl pains. We need to sign Fish...and so glad we got Steve Blake. Also glad we're not a part of that CLUSTER F--k that is going on with La Brick and Compamy!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is quite some Charade!!

We need to sign Fish...and so glad we got Steve Blake. Also glad we're not a part of that CLUSTER F--k that is going on with La Brick and Compamy!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is quite some Charade!! Posted by: NewMexicoLakerLifer | July 04, 2010 at 12:56 PM
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I agree with you on every single point! Have a good Holiday!
Mamba24

Check Out the Plea Made By Cleveland for "The King without a Ring":

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16647

In His 7 Seasons, He's Been to the Playoffs 5 Times (1 Finals) and NO RINGS!

KOBE's Been to the Playoffs 13 Times (7 Finals) in 14 Seasons and 5 RINGS!

HEY LEBRON, THERE'S NO 'U' IN CHAMP!

BUT THERE IS ONE IN "CHUMP"!

HERE'S TO THE "CHUMPION"!
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

GET ON THE BUSS, THE "JERRY BUSS" EXPRESS"!!!!!!

>>>Can Lakers get Rudy Fernandez for the remaining $1.8M on the MLE?

Nope. Rudy's not a free agent. And if he was, he'd get offered more than 1.8.

His current salary is low because it's his rookie contract, which the CBA sets.

If Derek Fisher agrees to sign with the Lakers for around #3.8mil the Lakers could have around 4mil and even more possible, to pursue somebody such as Rudy Fernandez, Raja Bell, TMac, Anthony Morrow, etc in the open market.


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