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Lakers expect Andrew Bynum to be limited in training camp

Although Lakers center Andrew Bynum underwent successful arthroscopic surgery to repair the lateral meniscus in his right knee, as first reported by The Times' Broderick Turner, the team doesn't expect Bynum to recover fully until the regular season begins.

"Bynum is expected to be available on a limited basis at the start of training camp and make a full recovery by the start of the regular season," the team said in a statement.

Bynum's brother, Corey Thomas, told Turner that Andrew plans to return to Los Angeles in two days and expects that his rehabilitation will last six to eight weeks. That means Bynum potentially could finish his rehab process as late as three days before training camp starts on Sept. 25.

Of course, Bynum historically hasn't exactly recovered from injuries as quickly as original timetables suggested. That means it wouldn't be surprising if he is limited. Before you lament this, keep in mind that Bynum is working with trainers in Vancouver and Los Angeles to improve his core strength, which will work as a preventative measure against injuries. He also showed during last season more of a willingness to do whatever it took to fight through injuries, including getting round-the-clock treatment, draining his knee and tolerating the pain. 

And finally, don't lambaste Bynum's decision to wait until now to get his surgery. Bynum wanted to have surgery on July 18, but he didn't have it until Wednesday in New York by Dr. David Altchek because  no other date was available. As valuable as it would be for Bynum to have more time for rehab, having surgery immediately after the season is unrealistic since it's an exhausting procedure and only exacerbates the fatigue from a long season.

-- Mark Medina

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Ron,

Nice trade scenario. However, I think, and I could be very, very wrong here, but I think that Caracter may eventually be a better player than Taj Gibson and not only will Caracter back up LO, but may very well supplant or replace LO someday. Not a slight to the very capable and talented Gibson, I just see more upside and potential from Caracter.


Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | July 28, 2010 at 09:35 PM

Nemaia Faletogo

I hope that Drew also works on strengthening his base this offseason. One of Drew's weaknesses on offense is his inability to consistently establish good low post position - he gets pushed off the block too often for a guy his size. Though some may call him a power player, I see more Tim Duncan in him than Dwight Howard.

With his injury history in mind, my realistic expectations for Drew next season are for him to inch past Andrew Bogut and Chris Kaman and somewhat clarify his position as the 2nd best center in the league. It's time for Drew to step up and at least show that he's the best center in LA.

This is my power rankings of all time:

1a) Wilt
1b) MJ
1c) Russell
4) Kareem
5) Magic
6)Bird
7) Olajuwon
8) Bryant
9) O'Neal
10a) Duncan
10b) Robertson.

Posted by: KB Blitz | July 28, 2010 at 09:06 PM

Looks good to me. I would juggle a few things and move the Logo in and push Shaq over Dream.

1) Kareem
2) Russell
3) MJ
4) Wilt
5) Magic
6) Kobe
7) Oscar
8) Bird
9) Shaq
10) Duncan/West

I'm looking forward to seeing Blake Griffin play next season as well. If he's as good as advertised, a frontcourt with him and Kaman should make the Clips serious playoff contenders next season.

I haven't really watched Griffin play. Is he like Beasley - a tweener without a real position on the floor? Or is he a legit PF able to play with the elite bigs in the league? I recall reports that he has phenomenal athleticism but is a bit undersized for the PF position.

Justa,
You have been and will always be one of my favorite Laker bloggers. Knowledgable, funny, friendly, blah blah blah, I mean etc. etc. etc.

Now why would you think it would make me happy if you self-banned.

If you did, I would definately call you an elitist blogger having too much pull with MM.


Here we go again. The season has not even started and Laker management is prepping the public for another Bynum season. Another Bynum season means that his play will be limited. Has Bynum ever played a complete "full court" season for the Lakers ?? Laker management should seriously consider making him trade bait by mid-seaspn if he is not playing like he has been in the NBA for 6 years. He has a long way to go to come up to professional status. Why is it he is always sitting out the summer season nursing an injury and never ready the training camp day ??

Good Evening Charles...Good Evening Everybody...

This trading / dumping Sasha runour is a little disconcerting...and for several reasons...

1) don't the Lakers have time to move him before the trade deadline and if they do trade / dump him by the deadline then doesn't his money not effect the salary cap?---if so what's the rush?

2) isn't waiting to see what Mr. Walton's status is the first thing the Lakers should do (if #1 above is true)...or at least wait as long as they can (ie trade deadline) giving Mr. Walton a chance to continue etc.

3) they can still sign Brown and the rookies and then decide on Sasha, keeping their options open (again if #1 is true)...

4) If Sasha performs well in the first half of the season, he should be easier to deal,

4A) if he does perform well in the first half of the season, keeping him is worth twice the price (literally) (easy for me to spend Dr. Buss's money, ain't it)

5) if they can trade him and not take back any salary, why don't they do that with you know who? (well I sort of know the answer to that)---guess I still don't understand how you can "trade" a player and NOT take back salary...

6) I really think Sasha will have a great year and will have a good shooting year as well as being a valuable and complimentary defender along with Artest and Barnes...

7) is it indeed down to a choice between Sasha and Brown?---and who would you (meaning us bloggers) take if it does??????

8) if Mr. Walton can't continue, doesn't the choice between Sasha and Brown become fairly mute---unless the Lakers are looking of shedding the salary of two of the mentioned three players...

9) number 9...number 9...number 9...

10) seems like Sasha's expiring contract is a valuable trade asset, best kept as long as possible to fully optimize some unforseen trade situation...or even letting it expire and reaping that benefit (though that doesn't aliviate salary cap penalties this year---but helps next year)...and hey we might need a couple of free throws THIS year

11) rumours like these, even if unfounded and not coming to fruition will negatively effect Sasha's confidence...

12) I hate rumours , especially rumours about my spleen , as it were, seemingly...

13) what is Mitch really up to---what has he got up that sleeve of his, just his arm for the love of shredded wheat?

14) was the earth visited by ancient astronauts with fries?

15) is that a Larch or the mighty Scot's Pine?

16) Can Mike Brown find work as Wesley Snipes double in the next Blade movie?

17) will Don Nelson ever wear his fish tie again?

18) if a cow is brain dead can a vegan eat it?

19) what's so funny about disnetary?

20) is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?

21) are you a mod or a rocker?

22) it seems cannabalism has some merit, after all, you are what you eat...

23) why don't we do it in the road, no one will be watching us, seemingly...

24) deep in the forest I heard a butt crack

25) as quickly as you can, snatch the bulldozer from my hand

26) why don't you see many truely inverted mohawks, Bozo the clown tried to start the movement, but now it seems only middle age white guys sport a poor imitation---oh the humanity...

27) why doesn't Cap'n Crunch come with a warning label---if you eat it dry and too fast it rips the crap out of the roof of your mouth (oh but what a way to go)

28) are you one of them?

29) was Max really sorry about that?

30) Mary Ann or Ginger?


AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

EJK,


If healthy, Blake Griffin is the real deal. He's more athletic than LeCreep and stronger. And he's a good guy.


They can't challenge the Lakers, but they could make the playoffs.


Go Clippers!


GO LAKERS!!!!

9) number 9...number 9...number 9...

Paul is dead

After the last few days I have real "BS about Bynum :fatuigue.

1) He is certainly not yet the second coming of Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, or Hakeem at this point - the BEAEAT is a hopeful myth

2) He IS a very solid 15/10 guy per 36 minutes guys and a large presence on defense

3 He HAS been injured a lot, but it is also true that Lamar and especially Kobe landed pretty hard on him and those injuries were legit.


SOOOOOO...... Can we agree - he is not a BEAST at this point and that he has been over promised by folks here - AND - he is not a random-injury prone stiff either. He is a solid ballplayer who may or may not be plagued by injuries going forward. The timing of his surgury was reasonable being a) similar to Kobe's knee surgery and b) needing some rest between playoffs and surgery.


How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?


Signed..

Tom D. - tired of Bynum being a source of friction among Laker fans w

EJK, wife is from OK, OU fan. I saw the guy playing in NCAA probably way b4 all you guys. He's VERY good, not type of IQ bball, but very effective. If I had to pick a single word to describe him, it would be BRUTAL!
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I hope the Lakers to have minimal contact w/ the Clippers...
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Sometimes I have some nightmares...OKC built a nice, young roster...Griffin is from OK...in 2 years, he decide to join Durant, Westbrook & co.
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If that happens...hmm...I guess that means trouble.

Tom D., I think your description of Andrew is pretty solid, though the one thing you left out is the thing that most Bynum fans (myself included) look to: potential. When you look back over the last decade or two, there simply aren't many 22 year old guys who are legitimate, back to the basket centers who can average 15/10.

Andrew's footwork is probably the best the league has seen since Tim Duncan for a 22 year old center. This is what the critics fail to see. Those, like BEDO, form an opinion and then cherry pick facts to support that opinion. So, instead of focusing on the fact that Andrew has shown HUGE commitment to improving his game by working with Kareem (unlike Shaq) and now improving his core strength in Vancouver & LA this summer, you get comments about how he "delayed" his surgery and how this makes him unprofessional.

There are a few Andrew supporters on this blog, but I have seen none of them blindly disregard Bynum's unfortunate injury history. So, if you ask me, the objectivity is shown by those who actually see potential greatness in Andrew rather than those who mindlessly talk of trading him....

Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone! I had a fantastic day. I'll say goodnight with one of my favorite inspirational passages...

There is no day that one should skip
But one should seize without distrust
The possible with iron grip.
~Prologue to Goethe's Faust

May tomorrow be better than today. Much love!

Trade Bynum? No way.

Sephy Hambaz

A vote of confidence for Sasha

It's game 7 of the NBA finals and Rajon Rondo has just made a 3 pointer, Lakers lead down to 2 points. Laker time-out. Phil puts in Sasha a career 87% free throw shooter and takes out Artest. There is 13 seconds left and the Celtics must foul immediately and do so with 11.7 seconds left. Sasha calmly makes both free throws giving the Lakers a 4 point lead and essentially puts the game out of reach, Sasha redeems himself for Ray Allen breaking his ankles 2 years earlier, as do the Lakers as a team for their underwhelming performance in 2008.

For the game Sasha plays 4:41 and has a +/- of +9
Shannon plays 5:25 with a -1

2010-2011 season, Revenge of the Machine

final note: Sasha is in the coaches doghouse late in the season for some type of insubordination, but both sides obviously work it out and must be satisfied with the results.

@TOM D… With due respect, this stopped being about Andrew Bynum a long time ago. It’s personal. At any rate, I’m as sick of it as everybody else. When it reaches a point where I can’t post a comment without receiving slurs and taunts, it’s probably time to take a long vacation. Enjoy the summer.
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TOM

And now for a little comic relief

The Rock in SacTown dissing the Kings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8u1ErQTO0

Trade Bynum?

Sure. Are the Magic offering DHoward?

Did they finally clone Kareem?

Did Wilt rise from the dead?

Troll Man - If justa had so much pull, she'd be going to the ASG. But as she knows all too well, Commissioner Stern won't grant another pass lol

MM


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ANDREW RELOADED – RELEASE THE BEAST – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM – OWNER - We need to start an Unleash the Beast Bandwagon with a kick start from last year’s similar bandwagon. Let’s show the love and support that Drew deserves. Put NBA4ever at shotgun and all the rest of the great Bynum Boosters on it automatically.
(02) PUDDLE – DRVER - Awesome news! 8 weeks from today would take him to... September 22nd... exactly 3 days before training camp. As Stu would say, "Noice!"
(03) NBA4EVER – RIDING SHOTGUN - Anyone who doesn’t completely support Bynum and hope for the best isn’t a Laker fan let alone a student of the game. He is the difference between us winning it again and not winning it. A trade for Chris Paul doesn’t add as much as a healthy Andrew Bynum. He is what separates us from all the other contenders like Orlando, Boston, and Miami. Why else would Dallas spend a billion dollars on two seven footers on the decline? All my optimism for this season and all my hopes for this season are for Bynum to finally have a healthy season and to dominate on both ends of the court. As a fan I too need to be motivated, and this year’s motivation is to see a completely dominate team with Bynum as the anchor. Artest clicked in place last year right in time, our bench was feeble, and Bynum was hurt as well as everyone else. So can you imagine a much more improved bench, a cohesive Artest, and a healthy beast that is Bynum?
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – SECURITY - NBA4ever - I agree. Drew IS the difference maker. The little he was able to give in the Finals was exactly what the team needed for the Repeat. There have been many coaches, players, GM's and pundits who have all commented on that, so it really doesn't make sense to me why our young Beast doesn't get the love on here from many. Oh well - hopefully the rehabbing will go well and Socks will be dominating like we know he should. GET WELL SOCKS - we need you.
(05) MAGIC PHIL – SECURITY - GO BYNUM, THIS IS YOUR YEAR!
(06) MAMBA24 – This Season Bynum will own the center position in The NBA.
(07) STEPHY HAMBAZ - Excellent news, glad to hear the big fella is expected to recover nicely
(08) SAMLL - Yes!!! Be diligent with your rehab, Drew, and come back a beast! Go Bynum!
(09) LAKESHOWINPHX - this is drew's year! stay healthy and put up some great numbers, say.....15 pts, 12 rebs for the season. ni hao from shanghai, prc....it's good to hear from my laker bretheren from far and away!
(10) LABAN LAKRS – I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
(11) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Great news regarding Andrew! Time to rehab and workout like a madman to be in the best shape he can possibly be in! Time for him to break out for a full season, including the playoffs at full strength and completely healthy
(12) LEONARDBAST78 - good luck on your rehab AB, and good luck to staying injury-free next season. kareem needs to teach drew some martial arts. that should help his conditioning, flexibility, and balance.
(13) JAMIE SWEET - Looking at who starts at center in the Western Conference and your realize that Bynum has a great chance at attending his first All Star game as a player. He might not get voted in as a starter, but he should definitely make the squad.
(14) LEWSTRS - Andrew Bynum - Let's get serious with that rehab...work more with the Cap this summer...and let's get that explosiveness back, and shut up your doubters...and show them that Kid Bynumite is BACK...and will be the BEAST of MMXI...
(15) KB BLITZ - Looking forward to him coming back 100% healthy (He will). He went too much for cardio the last two summers to be honest. Time he strengthed the core.
(16) G in DC(aka GDUB - Glad the surgery was successful and hope that there are no complications or problems during his rehab. I'm very hopeful that Drew will make it thru the coming season and post-season injury-free and becomes a DOMINATE FORCE for the Ls on his way to a breakout season.
(17) TOM DANIELS - How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?
(18) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(19) 63 – FOOTER – ADD me to the Bandwagon
(20) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum bandwagon.
(21) LAKERLASS - Get well soon Bynum

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKER MIKE – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKER MIKE – OWNER - It would mean something special to wifey if I could include B-day greetings from you to her! She knows about you three due to my frequent comments to her about you. I have collected kind words from JUSTA, LEWSTRS and EDWIN, deciding to print them and include them in her card. So, PLEASE? (Thanks!)
(02) LEWSTRS – DRIVER - Happy Birthday to Mrs. Laker Mike...Hope you both share a wonderful and special day...
(03) EDWIN GUECO – RIDING SHOTGUN - Be a good boy today Laker Mike, it is not your day but it's Mrs. Wash the dishes, do the laundry, clean the house, prepare all hot meals and avoid spending too much time blogging. Attention should revolve only to the Lady celebrating her natal day.
(04) # 4
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Happy Birthday Mrs. LakerMike anything to make another Real Laker Girl feel welcome! Hope you guys have a great day!
(06) MAMBA24 – HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKER Mike & may more happy returns.
(07) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Oh, and happy birthday Mrs. Laker Mike!
(08) NEMAIA FALETOGO - I don't know if you're a spiritual man or not, but thank God for blessing her with another year of life and I wish her many, many more to come. Keep your woman happy by making everday seem like her birthday!!! Happy B-Day Mrs. LakerMike!!!
(09) LAKERTOM - Please add me to Mrs. LakerMike’s Birthday Bandwagon. Every great Lakers fan needs a the support of a great woman to become the better person and blogger that they are. Happy Birthday, Mrs. LakerMike for Mr. and Mrs. LakerTom. And may all your birthday wishes come true. I know Mike has had his eye on some very expensive birthday gifts but I don’t want to spoil the surprise coming tonight.
(10) JON K - Mrs. LakerMike, You've married a good man who I hope loves you as much as he loves the Los Angeles Lakers. Considering that LakerMike has proven that he has the good sense to love the best team in sports, I'm assuming that he also has equally good taste in women. Birthdays are those special days when we celebrate the joy and bounty of life itself. I am assuming that you are AWESOME and thus have a lot to celebrate. So, Happy Birthday! I hope you are experiencing all the wonder that life provides you and that you deserve to celebrate.
(11) MAGIC PHIL - Happy Birth Day MRS. LAKER MIKE!!
(12) 63 FOOTER – Add me to the Bandwagons
(13) D(EREK) J(ETER)
(14) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on the Happy Birthday Mrs. Laker Mike Bandwagon
(15) RICK FRIEDMAN – HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKERMIKE
(16) LAKER LASS – Yes, Happy Birthday Mrs. Laker Mike

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PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER
(02) RDLEE - DRIVER Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - RIDING SHOTGUN - With you on that partner
(04) #4
(05) MR & MRS. LAKERMIKE - SPIRITUAL HEALERS - GOOD VIBRATIONS . . . Today is Bynum's knee surgery AND my WIFE'S birthday. She is a great, GREAT woman and has agreed to share some of her festive and life-giving energy from this special day to Andrew's body. Trust me ~ nothing but good coming from this surgery! (Special thanks to JUSTA for making wifey feel a part of the family here, and thus wooing such a gift from her!)
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - SPECIAL HEALING ASSISTANT
(07) MAMBA24 - Get well soon Andrew we need you & THE BEAST!
(08) LOBGTIMELAKERLOVER - Drew's gonna be just fine. It was a few foreign bodies, nothing huge. If he was able to play through the finals and be effective, then it's not a huge stretch to believe he'll heal up great. Also, if this was a big operation, then I have to believe the organization would push for a more expedient date, vs this late date.
09) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(10) DON’T BLAME DEL HARRIS - Maybe AB could get Elden Campbell's cadaver parts for his knee surgery. After all, Big E was such a stiff! I remember we used to say "Dead Man Walking" whenever the Lake Show ran the break.
(11) LEWSTRS - I've always been in AB's corner, and I hope his surgery goes well today...Small minuscus tears are usually just a basic procedure these days...AB please heal fast, and let's show all your doubters what you can do in a full healthy season...
(12) MAGIC PHIL - Put me in the PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL – BANDWAGON
(13) ART-FL LAKERS FAN - Even the Bynum bashers and those who wanted to trade him likely wish him a speedy recovery as they too are Laker fans first. After all, he's worth more in a trade if he's healthy.
(14) 63- FOOTER – ADD ME TO THE BANDWAGONS
(15) SAMLL - I wish Bynum all the best in his surgery and get well soon, big guy!
(16) EDWIN GUECO - will not only wish Bynum to get well but to be the best as he can be. On his 5th year, he should be the beast that LakerTom has alluded too. Where is the beast on just being "well"? Being well is just continuation of being a mediocre Center who gets injured year in and year out while we, the fans keep on wishing him Get Well every season. At age 23 this should be a banner year Drew as the best among the beasts. Anything short of being the best, Kareem failed as an astute teacher.
(17) D(EREK) J(ETER)
(18) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum get well bandwagon
(19) JUSTALAKERFAN - I too say a prayer for Andrew's knee surgery and may God guide the hands of his surgeon.
(20) RICK FRIEDMAN –
(21) LAKERLASS – Get well soon Bynum

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KEEP SASHA - BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - Someone add me to the Keep Sasha bandwagon or caravan or whatever's rolling out there these days. I think just for sinking those 2 critical FT's in Game 7 he deserves a shot to contribute to the 3-peat. Just for that. They were huge, pressure-filled FT's and the boy had nothing but ice water running through his veins. Cold. Calculating. Swish. Swish. Nothing but net. He's come a long way - he still has a frenetic dribbling style, but he seems to be much more in control on offense. With Blake - as opposed to Farmar - my guess is he'll be more confident as well. His defense has always been pesky and he's usually good for frustrating the opponents he ends up guarding. Really, who doesn't want to join his fan club? AND he provides eyebrow-taming moments. What's not to love?
(02) FAITH - DRIVER
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - If only for the 2 Freethrows Keep them
(04) #4
(05) SAMLL - Trade Sasha just to re-sign Brown? Ridiculous! As Tim-4-Show said, we're not the Clippers. We're the 16x champs Lakers! I'm expecting Mitch to keep both.
(06) NOAH - HELL YEAH KEEP SASHA 2 words: SPLASH SPLASH!!!!!
(07) LAKERTOM - Please add me to the Keep Sasha Bandwagon. Thanks.
(08) LAKERLASS – - Now the Sasha bandwagon, hmmm, lemme see...yes, I'll take a seat. Let's keep him for now and see if the Machine rises.
(09) LAKERTRUTH - I think it would be a mistake to trade Sasha, who has a chance of being the team's best 3 point shooter next season. He was returning to form last season before he got injured.
(10) RAIDERLAKER1980 - I think it would be a mistake to trade Sasha, who has a chance of being the team's best 3 point shooter next season. He was returning to form last season before he got injured.
(11) ART-FL LAKERS FAN - As difficult as the decision is, I am going for keeping Sasha, mostly because of his most recent post. I mean, we never hear from Brown, so Sasha wins!
(12) RICK FRIEDMAN - Since Mamba24 is ignoring me today, I hereby declare my participation in the following bandwagons: Keep Sasha
(13) MAGIC PHIL

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER - Happy Birthday! Wish I were only 28 with another lifetime of Lakers championships to enjoy.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER -- HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE. May you ive two see a 6 Time Laker 3-peat.! Enjoy your day!
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Happy birthday Puddle. You don't post nearly enough.
(04) #4
(05) LAKERMIKE - Happy B-Day Puddles! You help make up the brightest shining collection of blog contributors who just so happen to be girls! (And yes, JUSTA, you are funny!).
(06) NOAH - and happy birthday to puddle
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN – HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE
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ANDREW RELOADED – RELEASE THE BEAST – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM – OWNER - We need to start an Unleash the Beast Bandwagon with a kick start from last year’s similar bandwagon. Let’s show the love and support that Drew deserves. Put NBA4ever at shotgun and all the rest of the great Bynum Boosters on it automatically.
(02) PUDDLE – DRVER - Awesome news! 8 weeks from today would take him to... September 22nd... exactly 3 days before training camp. As Stu would say, "Noice!"
(03) NBA4EVER – RIDING SHOTGUN - Anyone who doesn’t completely support Bynum and hope for the best isn’t a Laker fan let alone a student of the game. He is the difference between us winning it again and not winning it. A trade for Chris Paul doesn’t add as much as a healthy Andrew Bynum. He is what separates us from all the other contenders like Orlando, Boston, and Miami. Why else would Dallas spend a billion dollars on two seven footers on the decline? All my optimism for this season and all my hopes for this season are for Bynum to finally have a healthy season and to dominate on both ends of the court. As a fan I too need to be motivated, and this year’s motivation is to see a completely dominate team with Bynum as the anchor. Artest clicked in place last year right in time, our bench was feeble, and Bynum was hurt as well as everyone else. So can you imagine a much more improved bench, a cohesive Artest, and a healthy beast that is Bynum?
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – SECURITY - NBA4ever - I agree. Drew IS the difference maker. The little he was able to give in the Finals was exactly what the team needed for the Repeat. There have been many coaches, players, GM's and pundits who have all commented on that, so it really doesn't make sense to me why our young Beast doesn't get the love on here from many. Oh well - hopefully the rehabbing will go well and Socks will be dominating like we know he should. GET WELL SOCKS - we need you.
(05) MAGIC PHIL – SECURITY - GO BYNUM, THIS IS YOUR YEAR!
(06) MAMBA24 – This Season Bynum will own the center position in The NBA.
(07) STEPHY HAMBAZ - Excellent news, glad to hear the big fella is expected to recover nicely
(08) SAMLL - Yes!!! Be diligent with your rehab, Drew, and come back a beast! Go Bynum!
(09) LAKESHOWINPHX - this is drew's year! stay healthy and put up some great numbers, say.....15 pts, 12 rebs for the season. ni hao from shanghai, prc....it's good to hear from my laker bretheren from far and away!
(10) LABAN LAKRS – I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
(11) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Great news regarding Andrew! Time to rehab and workout like a madman to be in the best shape he can possibly be in! Time for him to break out for a full season, including the playoffs at full strength and completely healthy
(12) LEONARDBAST78 - good luck on your rehab AB, and good luck to staying injury-free next season. kareem needs to teach drew some martial arts. that should help his conditioning, flexibility, and balance.
(13) JAMIE SWEET - Looking at who starts at center in the Western Conference and your realize that Bynum has a great chance at attending his first All Star game as a player. He might not get voted in as a starter, but he should definitely make the squad.
(14) LEWSTRS - Andrew Bynum - Let's get serious with that rehab...work more with the Cap this summer...and let's get that explosiveness back, and shut up your doubters...and show them that Kid Bynumite is BACK...and will be the BEAST of MMXI...
(15) KB BLITZ - Looking forward to him coming back 100% healthy (He will). He went too much for cardio the last two summers to be honest. Time he strengthed the core.
(16) G in DC(aka GDUB - Glad the surgery was successful and hope that there are no complications or problems during his rehab. I'm very hopeful that Drew will make it thru the coming season and post-season injury-free and becomes a DOMINATE FORCE for the Ls on his way to a breakout season.
(17) TOM DANIELS - How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?
(18) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(19) 63 – FOOTER – ADD me to the Bandwagon
(20) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum bandwagon.
(21) LAKERLASS - Get well soon Bynum


I dig Drew. Drew's got good footwork, a nice touch and great hands to catch lobs (think Kwame the ham fisted). Drew in the middle frees up Pau to play power forward (think 2008 finals vs 2010 finals). He makes foul shots (think of Shaq the clanker). Drew is young and still learning the game, but he knows how to win now (defensive tenacity) and wants to do it again. Seems humble and genuine. I would be bummed if the Lakers traded him. Period.

Get well very soon AB17,I want to see you all Lakers player here in London on October 4 exhibition game against timberwolves,i got my ticket already im so excited to see you guys especially KOBE.Can't wait....

What terrible news. Looks like Drew is coming into the season gimp again and will re-injure himself immediately. People are clueless about him right now because we won another chip, but when we lose this year, things will start unraveling and we are going to look back at this point in time wondering why we didn't push for a trade for Drew when he still had some "value". It's not like the signs weren't there. By next season, we'll have a near max-contact player perennially on the disabled list for the remainder of his career while his contract counts against our salary cap. Expect these stupid decisions by Mitch along with Kobe's rapidly eroding level of play to push us to the lottery by the 2011-2012 season.

He should have had the surgery in June, instead of gallivanting in South Africa. That is what serious players do and it is one reason he will never realize his potential. he is not aggressive enough. We should trade him if we can, because we will never get a full season out of him till he retires.

Depending on your perspective, the news on Caracter is not good. Could be heading to Israel, Greece, Italy--you name it (just not to L.A.):

http://tinyurl.com/2g2ndag

Lot of teams willing to pony up for his services.

Lakers still have the rights, of course, but they will have to rethink the coming year's bench a bit.

A little sad, if this comes to pass. I had every expectation of D.C. being this year's DeJuan Blair. A diamond in the haystack who'd give us that Baby Davis energy and pow off the bench. Guess we'll have to count on Theo for that now ;-)

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July 28, 2010 | 9:28 pm
Although Lakers center Andrew Bynum underwent successful arthroscopic surgery to repair the lateral meniscus in his right knee, as first reported by The Times' Broderick Turner, the team doesn't expect Bynum to recover fully until the regular season begins.

"Bynum is expected to be available on a limited basis at the start of training camp and make a full recovery by the start of the regular season," the team said in a statement.

Bynum's brother, Corey Thomas, told Turner that Andrew plans to return to Los Angeles in two days and expects that his rehabilitation will last six to eight weeks. That means Bynum potentially could finish his rehab process as late as three days before training camp starts on Sept. 25.

Of course, Bynum historically hasn't exactly recovered from injuries as quickly as original timetables suggested. That means it wouldn't be surprising if he is limited. Before you lament this, keep in mind that Bynum is working with trainers in Vancouver and Los Angeles to improve his core strength, which will work as a preventative measure against injuries. He also showed during last season more of a willingness to do whatever it took to fight through injuries, including getting round-the-clock treatment, draining his knee and tolerating the pain.

And finally, don't lambaste Bynum's decision to wait until now to get his surgery. Bynum wanted to have surgery on July 18, but he didn't have it until Wednesday in New York by Dr. David Altchek because no other date was available. As valuable as it would be for Bynum to have more time for rehab, having surgery immediately after the season is unrealistic since it's an exhausting procedure and only exacerbates the fatigue from a long season.

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Comments (26)

Ron,

Nice trade scenario. However, I think, and I could be very, very wrong here, but I think that Caracter may eventually be a better player than Taj Gibson and not only will Caracter back up LO, but may very well supplant or replace LO someday. Not a slight to the very capable and talented Gibson, I just see more upside and potential from Caracter.


Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | July 28, 2010 at 09:35 PM

Nemaia Faletogo

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | July 28, 2010 at 09:37 PM

I hope that Drew also works on strengthening his base this offseason. One of Drew's weaknesses on offense is his inability to consistently establish good low post position - he gets pushed off the block too often for a guy his size. Though some may call him a power player, I see more Tim Duncan in him than Dwight Howard.

With his injury history in mind, my realistic expectations for Drew next season are for him to inch past Andrew Bogut and Chris Kaman and somewhat clarify his position as the 2nd best center in the league. It's time for Drew to step up and at least show that he's the best center in LA.

Posted by: EJK | July 28, 2010 at 10:29 PM

This is my power rankings of all time:

1a) Wilt
1b) MJ
1c) Russell
4) Kareem
5) Magic
6)Bird
7) Olajuwon
8) Bryant
9) O'Neal
10a) Duncan
10b) Robertson.

Posted by: KB Blitz | July 28, 2010 at 09:06 PM

Looks good to me. I would juggle a few things and move the Logo in and push Shaq over Dream.

1) Kareem
2) Russell
3) MJ
4) Wilt
5) Magic
6) Kobe
7) Oscar
8) Bird
9) Shaq
10) Duncan/West


Posted by: LRob | July 28, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing Blake Griffin play next season as well. If he's as good as advertised, a frontcourt with him and Kaman should make the Clips serious playoff contenders next season.

I haven't really watched Griffin play. Is he like Beasley - a tweener without a real position on the floor? Or is he a legit PF able to play with the elite bigs in the league? I recall reports that he has phenomenal athleticism but is a bit undersized for the PF position.

Posted by: EJK | July 28, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Justa,
You have been and will always be one of my favorite Laker bloggers. Knowledgable, funny, friendly, blah blah blah, I mean etc. etc. etc.

Now why would you think it would make me happy if you self-banned.

If you did, I would definately call you an elitist blogger having too much pull with MM.


Posted by: Troll Man | July 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM

Here we go again. The season has not even started and Laker management is prepping the public for another Bynum season. Another Bynum season means that his play will be limited. Has Bynum ever played a complete "full court" season for the Lakers ?? Laker management should seriously consider making him trade bait by mid-seaspn if he is not playing like he has been in the NBA for 6 years. He has a long way to go to come up to professional status. Why is it he is always sitting out the summer season nursing an injury and never ready the training camp day ??

Posted by: BEDO | July 28, 2010 at 11:06 PM

Good Evening Charles...Good Evening Everybody...

This trading / dumping Sasha runour is a little disconcerting...and for several reasons...

1) don't the Lakers have time to move him before the trade deadline and if they do trade / dump him by the deadline then doesn't his money not effect the salary cap?---if so what's the rush?

2) isn't waiting to see what Mr. Walton's status is the first thing the Lakers should do (if #1 above is true)...or at least wait as long as they can (ie trade deadline) giving Mr. Walton a chance to continue etc.

3) they can still sign Brown and the rookies and then decide on Sasha, keeping their options open (again if #1 is true)...

4) If Sasha performs well in the first half of the season, he should be easier to deal,

4A) if he does perform well in the first half of the season, keeping him is worth twice the price (literally) (easy for me to spend Dr. Buss's money, ain't it)

5) if they can trade him and not take back any salary, why don't they do that with you know who? (well I sort of know the answer to that)---guess I still don't understand how you can "trade" a player and NOT take back salary...

6) I really think Sasha will have a great year and will have a good shooting year as well as being a valuable and complimentary defender along with Artest and Barnes...

7) is it indeed down to a choice between Sasha and Brown?---and who would you (meaning us bloggers) take if it does??????

8) if Mr. Walton can't continue, doesn't the choice between Sasha and Brown become fairly mute---unless the Lakers are looking of shedding the salary of two of the mentioned three players...

9) number 9...number 9...number 9...

10) seems like Sasha's expiring contract is a valuable trade asset, best kept as long as possible to fully optimize some unforseen trade situation...or even letting it expire and reaping that benefit (though that doesn't aliviate salary cap penalties this year---but helps next year)...and hey we might need a couple of free throws THIS year

11) rumours like these, even if unfounded and not coming to fruition will negatively effect Sasha's confidence...

12) I hate rumours , especially rumours about my spleen , as it were, seemingly...

13) what is Mitch really up to---what has he got up that sleeve of his, just his arm for the love of shredded wheat?

14) was the earth visited by ancient astronauts with fries?

15) is that a Larch or the mighty Scot's Pine?

16) Can Mike Brown find work as Wesley Snipes double in the next Blade movie?

17) will Don Nelson ever wear his fish tie again?

18) if a cow is brain dead can a vegan eat it?

19) what's so funny about disnetary?

20) is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?

21) are you a mod or a rocker?

22) it seems cannabalism has some merit, after all, you are what you eat...

23) why don't we do it in the road, no one will be watching us, seemingly...

24) deep in the forest I heard a butt crack

25) as quickly as you can, snatch the bulldozer from my hand

26) why don't you see many truely inverted mohawks, Bozo the clown tried to start the movement, but now it seems only middle age white guys sport a poor imitation---oh the humanity...

27) why doesn't Cap'n Crunch come with a warning label---if you eat it dry and too fast it rips the crap out of the roof of your mouth (oh but what a way to go)

28) are you one of them?

29) was Max really sorry about that?

30) Mary Ann or Ginger?


AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!


Posted by: Floyd | July 28, 2010 at 11:16 PM

EJK,


If healthy, Blake Griffin is the real deal. He's more athletic than LeCreep and stronger. And he's a good guy.


They can't challenge the Lakers, but they could make the playoffs.


Go Clippers!


GO LAKERS!!!!


Posted by: Jon K. | July 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM

9) number 9...number 9...number 9...

Paul is dead

Posted by: I Killed Paul | July 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM

After the last few days I have real "BS about Bynum :fatuigue.

1) He is certainly not yet the second coming of Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, or Hakeem at this point - the BEAEAT is a hopeful myth

2) He IS a very solid 15/10 guy per 36 minutes guys and a large presence on defense

3 He HAS been injured a lot, but it is also true that Lamar and especially Kobe landed pretty hard on him and those injuries were legit.


SOOOOOO...... Can we agree - he is not a BEAST at this point and that he has been over promised by folks here - AND - he is not a random-injury prone stiff either. He is a solid ballplayer who may or may not be plagued by injuries going forward. The timing of his surgury was reasonable being a) similar to Kobe's knee surgery and b) needing some rest between playoffs and surgery.


How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?


Signed..

Tom D. - tired of Bynum being a source of friction among Laker fans w

Posted by: Tom Daniels | July 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM

EJK, wife is from OK, OU fan. I saw the guy playing in NCAA probably way b4 all you guys. He's VERY good, not type of IQ bball, but very effective. If I had to pick a single word to describe him, it would be BRUTAL!
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I hope the Lakers to have minimal contact w/ the Clippers...
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Sometimes I have some nightmares...OKC built a nice, young roster...Griffin is from OK...in 2 years, he decide to join Durant, Westbrook & co.
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If that happens...hmm...I guess that means trouble.

Posted by: Magic Phil | July 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GMp0Z3YQA
the guy is BAD...

Posted by: Magic Phil | July 28, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Tom D., I think your description of Andrew is pretty solid, though the one thing you left out is the thing that most Bynum fans (myself included) look to: potential. When you look back over the last decade or two, there simply aren't many 22 year old guys who are legitimate, back to the basket centers who can average 15/10.

Andrew's footwork is probably the best the league has seen since Tim Duncan for a 22 year old center. This is what the critics fail to see. Those, like BEDO, form an opinion and then cherry pick facts to support that opinion. So, instead of focusing on the fact that Andrew has shown HUGE commitment to improving his game by working with Kareem (unlike Shaq) and now improving his core strength in Vancouver & LA this summer, you get comments about how he "delayed" his surgery and how this makes him unprofessional.

There are a few Andrew supporters on this blog, but I have seen none of them blindly disregard Bynum's unfortunate injury history. So, if you ask me, the objectivity is shown by those who actually see potential greatness in Andrew rather than those who mindlessly talk of trading him....

Posted by: God | July 28, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone! I had a fantastic day. I'll say goodnight with one of my favorite inspirational passages...

There is no day that one should skip
But one should seize without distrust
The possible with iron grip.
~Prologue to Goethe's Faust

May tomorrow be better than today. Much love!

Posted by: puddle | July 29, 2010 at 12:18 AM

Trade Bynum? No way.

Sephy Hambaz

Posted by: Sephy Hambaz | July 29, 2010 at 12:23 AM

A vote of confidence for Sasha

It's game 7 of the NBA finals and Rajon Rondo has just made a 3 pointer, Lakers lead down to 2 points. Laker time-out. Phil puts in Sasha a career 87% free throw shooter and takes out Artest. There is 13 seconds left and the Celtics must foul immediately and do so with 11.7 seconds left. Sasha calmly makes both free throws giving the Lakers a 4 point lead and essentially puts the game out of reach, Sasha redeems himself for Ray Allen breaking his ankles 2 years earlier, as do the Lakers as a team for their underwhelming performance in 2008.

For the game Sasha plays 4:41 and has a +/- of +9
Shannon plays 5:25 with a -1

2010-2011 season, Revenge of the Machine

final note: Sasha is in the coaches doghouse late in the season for some type of insubordination, but both sides obviously work it out and must be satisfied with the results.


Posted by: Troll Man | July 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM

@TOM D… With due respect, this stopped being about Andrew Bynum a long time ago. It’s personal. At any rate, I’m as sick of it as everybody else. When it reaches a point where I can’t post a comment without receiving slurs and taunts, it’s probably time to take a long vacation. Enjoy the summer.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TOM


Posted by: LakerTom | July 29, 2010 at 12:30 AM

And now for a little comic relief

The Rock in SacTown dissing the Kings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G8u1ErQTO0

Posted by: Troll Man | July 29, 2010 at 12:37 AM

Trade Bynum?

Sure. Are the Magic offering DHoward?

Did they finally clone Kareem?

Did Wilt rise from the dead?

Posted by: p ang | July 29, 2010 at 12:44 AM

Troll Man - If justa had so much pull, she'd be going to the ASG. But as she knows all too well, Commissioner Stern won't grant another pass lol

MM

Posted by: Mark Medina | July 29, 2010 at 12:45 AM


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ANDREW RELOADED – RELEASE THE BEAST – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM – OWNER - We need to start an Unleash the Beast Bandwagon with a kick start from last year’s similar bandwagon. Let’s show the love and support that Drew deserves. Put NBA4ever at shotgun and all the rest of the great Bynum Boosters on it automatically.
(02) PUDDLE – DRVER - Awesome news! 8 weeks from today would take him to... September 22nd... exactly 3 days before training camp. As Stu would say, "Noice!"
(03) NBA4EVER – RIDING SHOTGUN - Anyone who doesn’t completely support Bynum and hope for the best isn’t a Laker fan let alone a student of the game. He is the difference between us winning it again and not winning it. A trade for Chris Paul doesn’t add as much as a healthy Andrew Bynum. He is what separates us from all the other contenders like Orlando, Boston, and Miami. Why else would Dallas spend a billion dollars on two seven footers on the decline? All my optimism for this season and all my hopes for this season are for Bynum to finally have a healthy season and to dominate on both ends of the court. As a fan I too need to be motivated, and this year’s motivation is to see a completely dominate team with Bynum as the anchor. Artest clicked in place last year right in time, our bench was feeble, and Bynum was hurt as well as everyone else. So can you imagine a much more improved bench, a cohesive Artest, and a healthy beast that is Bynum?
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – SECURITY - NBA4ever - I agree. Drew IS the difference maker. The little he was able to give in the Finals was exactly what the team needed for the Repeat. There have been many coaches, players, GM's and pundits who have all commented on that, so it really doesn't make sense to me why our young Beast doesn't get the love on here from many. Oh well - hopefully the rehabbing will go well and Socks will be dominating like we know he should. GET WELL SOCKS - we need you.
(05) MAGIC PHIL – SECURITY - GO BYNUM, THIS IS YOUR YEAR!
(06) MAMBA24 – This Season Bynum will own the center position in The NBA.
(07) STEPHY HAMBAZ - Excellent news, glad to hear the big fella is expected to recover nicely
(08) SAMLL - Yes!!! Be diligent with your rehab, Drew, and come back a beast! Go Bynum!
(09) LAKESHOWINPHX - this is drew's year! stay healthy and put up some great numbers, say.....15 pts, 12 rebs for the season. ni hao from shanghai, prc....it's good to hear from my laker bretheren from far and away!
(10) LABAN LAKRS – I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
(11) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Great news regarding Andrew! Time to rehab and workout like a madman to be in the best shape he can possibly be in! Time for him to break out for a full season, including the playoffs at full strength and completely healthy
(12) LEONARDBAST78 - good luck on your rehab AB, and good luck to staying injury-free next season. kareem needs to teach drew some martial arts. that should help his conditioning, flexibility, and balance.
(13) JAMIE SWEET - Looking at who starts at center in the Western Conference and your realize that Bynum has a great chance at attending his first All Star game as a player. He might not get voted in as a starter, but he should definitely make the squad.
(14) LEWSTRS - Andrew Bynum - Let's get serious with that rehab...work more with the Cap this summer...and let's get that explosiveness back, and shut up your doubters...and show them that Kid Bynumite is BACK...and will be the BEAST of MMXI...
(15) KB BLITZ - Looking forward to him coming back 100% healthy (He will). He went too much for cardio the last two summers to be honest. Time he strengthed the core.
(16) G in DC(aka GDUB - Glad the surgery was successful and hope that there are no complications or problems during his rehab. I'm very hopeful that Drew will make it thru the coming season and post-season injury-free and becomes a DOMINATE FORCE for the Ls on his way to a breakout season.
(17) TOM DANIELS - How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?
(18) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(19) 63 – FOOTER – ADD me to the Bandwagon
(20) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum bandwagon.
(21) LAKERLASS - Get well soon Bynum

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKER MIKE – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKER MIKE – OWNER - It would mean something special to wifey if I could include B-day greetings from you to her! She knows about you three due to my frequent comments to her about you. I have collected kind words from JUSTA, LEWSTRS and EDWIN, deciding to print them and include them in her card. So, PLEASE? (Thanks!)
(02) LEWSTRS – DRIVER - Happy Birthday to Mrs. Laker Mike...Hope you both share a wonderful and special day...
(03) EDWIN GUECO – RIDING SHOTGUN - Be a good boy today Laker Mike, it is not your day but it's Mrs. Wash the dishes, do the laundry, clean the house, prepare all hot meals and avoid spending too much time blogging. Attention should revolve only to the Lady celebrating her natal day.
(04) # 4
(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – Happy Birthday Mrs. LakerMike anything to make another Real Laker Girl feel welcome! Hope you guys have a great day!
(06) MAMBA24 – HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKER Mike & may more happy returns.
(07) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - Oh, and happy birthday Mrs. Laker Mike!
(08) NEMAIA FALETOGO - I don't know if you're a spiritual man or not, but thank God for blessing her with another year of life and I wish her many, many more to come. Keep your woman happy by making everday seem like her birthday!!! Happy B-Day Mrs. LakerMike!!!
(09) LAKERTOM - Please add me to Mrs. LakerMike’s Birthday Bandwagon. Every great Lakers fan needs a the support of a great woman to become the better person and blogger that they are. Happy Birthday, Mrs. LakerMike for Mr. and Mrs. LakerTom. And may all your birthday wishes come true. I know Mike has had his eye on some very expensive birthday gifts but I don’t want to spoil the surprise coming tonight.
(10) JON K - Mrs. LakerMike, You've married a good man who I hope loves you as much as he loves the Los Angeles Lakers. Considering that LakerMike has proven that he has the good sense to love the best team in sports, I'm assuming that he also has equally good taste in women. Birthdays are those special days when we celebrate the joy and bounty of life itself. I am assuming that you are AWESOME and thus have a lot to celebrate. So, Happy Birthday! I hope you are experiencing all the wonder that life provides you and that you deserve to celebrate.
(11) MAGIC PHIL - Happy Birth Day MRS. LAKER MIKE!!
(12) 63 FOOTER – Add me to the Bandwagons
(13) D(EREK) J(ETER)
(14) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on the Happy Birthday Mrs. Laker Mike Bandwagon
(15) RICK FRIEDMAN – HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS. LAKERMIKE
(16) LAKER LASS – Yes, Happy Birthday Mrs. Laker Mike

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PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER
(02) RDLEE - DRIVER Praying for Bynum and the surgeons!
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - RIDING SHOTGUN - With you on that partner
(04) #4
(05) MR & MRS. LAKERMIKE - SPIRITUAL HEALERS - GOOD VIBRATIONS . . . Today is Bynum's knee surgery AND my WIFE'S birthday. She is a great, GREAT woman and has agreed to share some of her festive and life-giving energy from this special day to Andrew's body. Trust me ~ nothing but good coming from this surgery! (Special thanks to JUSTA for making wifey feel a part of the family here, and thus wooing such a gift from her!)
(06) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - SPECIAL HEALING ASSISTANT
(07) MAMBA24 - Get well soon Andrew we need you & THE BEAST!
(08) LOBGTIMELAKERLOVER - Drew's gonna be just fine. It was a few foreign bodies, nothing huge. If he was able to play through the finals and be effective, then it's not a huge stretch to believe he'll heal up great. Also, if this was a big operation, then I have to believe the organization would push for a more expedient date, vs this late date.
09) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(10) DON’T BLAME DEL HARRIS - Maybe AB could get Elden Campbell's cadaver parts for his knee surgery. After all, Big E was such a stiff! I remember we used to say "Dead Man Walking" whenever the Lake Show ran the break.
(11) LEWSTRS - I've always been in AB's corner, and I hope his surgery goes well today...Small minuscus tears are usually just a basic procedure these days...AB please heal fast, and let's show all your doubters what you can do in a full healthy season...
(12) MAGIC PHIL - Put me in the PRAY FOR BYNUM TO GET WELL – BANDWAGON
(13) ART-FL LAKERS FAN - Even the Bynum bashers and those who wanted to trade him likely wish him a speedy recovery as they too are Laker fans first. After all, he's worth more in a trade if he's healthy.
(14) 63- FOOTER – ADD ME TO THE BANDWAGONS
(15) SAMLL - I wish Bynum all the best in his surgery and get well soon, big guy!
(16) EDWIN GUECO - will not only wish Bynum to get well but to be the best as he can be. On his 5th year, he should be the beast that LakerTom has alluded too. Where is the beast on just being "well"? Being well is just continuation of being a mediocre Center who gets injured year in and year out while we, the fans keep on wishing him Get Well every season. At age 23 this should be a banner year Drew as the best among the beasts. Anything short of being the best, Kareem failed as an astute teacher.
(17) D(EREK) J(ETER)
(18) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum get well bandwagon
(19) JUSTALAKERFAN - I too say a prayer for Andrew's knee surgery and may God guide the hands of his surgeon.
(20) RICK FRIEDMAN –
(21) LAKERLASS – Get well soon Bynum

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KEEP SASHA - BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - OWNER - Someone add me to the Keep Sasha bandwagon or caravan or whatever's rolling out there these days. I think just for sinking those 2 critical FT's in Game 7 he deserves a shot to contribute to the 3-peat. Just for that. They were huge, pressure-filled FT's and the boy had nothing but ice water running through his veins. Cold. Calculating. Swish. Swish. Nothing but net. He's come a long way - he still has a frenetic dribbling style, but he seems to be much more in control on offense. With Blake - as opposed to Farmar - my guess is he'll be more confident as well. His defense has always been pesky and he's usually good for frustrating the opponents he ends up guarding. Really, who doesn't want to join his fan club? AND he provides eyebrow-taming moments. What's not to love?
(02) FAITH - DRIVER
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - If only for the 2 Freethrows Keep them
(04) #4
(05) SAMLL - Trade Sasha just to re-sign Brown? Ridiculous! As Tim-4-Show said, we're not the Clippers. We're the 16x champs Lakers! I'm expecting Mitch to keep both.
(06) NOAH - HELL YEAH KEEP SASHA 2 words: SPLASH SPLASH!!!!!
(07) LAKERTOM - Please add me to the Keep Sasha Bandwagon. Thanks.
(08) LAKERLASS – - Now the Sasha bandwagon, hmmm, lemme see...yes, I'll take a seat. Let's keep him for now and see if the Machine rises.
(09) LAKERTRUTH - I think it would be a mistake to trade Sasha, who has a chance of being the team's best 3 point shooter next season. He was returning to form last season before he got injured.
(10) RAIDERLAKER1980 - I think it would be a mistake to trade Sasha, who has a chance of being the team's best 3 point shooter next season. He was returning to form last season before he got injured.
(11) ART-FL LAKERS FAN - As difficult as the decision is, I am going for keeping Sasha, mostly because of his most recent post. I mean, we never hear from Brown, so Sasha wins!
(12) RICK FRIEDMAN - Since Mamba24 is ignoring me today, I hereby declare my participation in the following bandwagons: Keep Sasha
(13) MAGIC PHIL

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE - BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM - OWNER - Happy Birthday! Wish I were only 28 with another lifetime of Lakers championships to enjoy.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER -- HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE. May you ive two see a 6 Time Laker 3-peat.! Enjoy your day!
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - Happy birthday Puddle. You don't post nearly enough.
(04) #4
(05) LAKERMIKE - Happy B-Day Puddles! You help make up the brightest shining collection of blog contributors who just so happen to be girls! (And yes, JUSTA, you are funny!).
(06) NOAH - and happy birthday to puddle
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN – HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUDDLE
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ANDREW RELOADED – RELEASE THE BEAST – BANDWAGON
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(01) LAKERTOM – OWNER - We need to start an Unleash the Beast Bandwagon with a kick start from last year’s similar bandwagon. Let’s show the love and support that Drew deserves. Put NBA4ever at shotgun and all the rest of the great Bynum Boosters on it automatically.
(02) PUDDLE – DRVER - Awesome news! 8 weeks from today would take him to... September 22nd... exactly 3 days before training camp. As Stu would say, "Noice!"
(03) NBA4EVER – RIDING SHOTGUN - Anyone who doesn’t completely support Bynum and hope for the best isn’t a Laker fan let alone a student of the game. He is the difference between us winning it again and not winning it. A trade for Chris Paul doesn’t add as much as a healthy Andrew Bynum. He is what separates us from all the other contenders like Orlando, Boston, and Miami. Why else would Dallas spend a billion dollars on two seven footers on the decline? All my optimism for this season and all my hopes for this season are for Bynum to finally have a healthy season and to dominate on both ends of the court. As a fan I too need to be motivated, and this year’s motivation is to see a completely dominate team with Bynum as the anchor. Artest clicked in place last year right in time, our bench was feeble, and Bynum was hurt as well as everyone else. So can you imagine a much more improved bench, a cohesive Artest, and a healthy beast that is Bynum?
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – SECURITY - NBA4ever - I agree. Drew IS the difference maker. The little he was able to give in the Finals was exactly what the team needed for the Repeat. There have been many coaches, players, GM's and pundits who have all commented on that, so it really doesn't make sense to me why our young Beast doesn't get the love on here from many. Oh well - hopefully the rehabbing will go well and Socks will be dominating like we know he should. GET WELL SOCKS - we need you.
(05) MAGIC PHIL – SECURITY - GO BYNUM, THIS IS YOUR YEAR!
(06) MAMBA24 – This Season Bynum will own the center position in The NBA.
(07) STEPHY HAMBAZ - Excellent news, glad to hear the big fella is expected to recover nicely
(08) SAMLL - Yes!!! Be diligent with your rehab, Drew, and come back a beast! Go Bynum!
(09) LAKESHOWINPHX - this is drew's year! stay healthy and put up some great numbers, say.....15 pts, 12 rebs for the season. ni hao from shanghai, prc....it's good to hear from my laker bretheren from far and away!
(10) LABAN LAKRS – I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
(11) NEMAIA FALETOGO - Great news regarding Andrew! Time to rehab and workout like a madman to be in the best shape he can possibly be in! Time for him to break out for a full season, including the playoffs at full strength and completely healthy
(12) LEONARDBAST78 - good luck on your rehab AB, and good luck to staying injury-free next season. kareem needs to teach drew some martial arts. that should help his conditioning, flexibility, and balance.
(13) JAMIE SWEET - Looking at who starts at center in the Western Conference and your realize that Bynum has a great chance at attending his first All Star game as a player. He might not get voted in as a starter, but he should definitely make the squad.
(14) LEWSTRS - Andrew Bynum - Let's get serious with that rehab...work more with the Cap this summer...and let's get that explosiveness back, and shut up your doubters...and show them that Kid Bynumite is BACK...and will be the BEAST of MMXI...
(15) KB BLITZ - Looking forward to him coming back 100% healthy (He will). He went too much for cardio the last two summers to be honest. Time he strengthed the core.
(16) G in DC(aka GDUB - Glad the surgery was successful and hope that there are no complications or problems during his rehab. I'm very hopeful that Drew will make it thru the coming season and post-season injury-free and becomes a DOMINATE FORCE for the Ls on his way to a breakout season.
(17) TOM DANIELS - How about we all agree that Drew is a Laker, a solid player at worst with some upside (if healthy) and that we should root for a good big man in purple and gold to to be healthy and to continue to develop? Why should a player like this be the cause of a huge rift here? He is neither the second coming nor simply trade bait. Both sides in this ongoing battle are off base. All he needs to do is be what he is and healthy and we win a title. What the **** is wrong with that?
(18) RAIDERSLAKER1980 - Since I'm at work, I'll take a shot of water and yell cheers to a healthy AB17, would love to see his career take off as a realible, healthy anchoring center..so down goes my shot of water CHEERS .
(19) 63 – FOOTER – ADD me to the Bandwagon
(20) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - Please put me on The Andrew Bynum bandwagon.
(21) LAKERLASS - Get well soon Bynum

Posted by: MAMBA24 | July 29, 2010 at 12:51 AM

I dig Drew. Drew's got good footwork, a nice touch and great hands to catch lobs (think Kwame the ham fisted). Drew in the middle frees up Pau to play power forward (think 2008 finals vs 2010 finals). He makes foul shots (think of Shaq the clanker). Drew is young and still learning the game, but he knows how to win now (defensive tenacity) and wants to do it again. Seems humble and genuine. I would be bummed if the Lakers traded him. Period.

Posted by: kiwi laker | July 29, 2010 at 01:12 AM

Get well very soon AB17,I want to see you all Lakers player here in London on October 4 exhibition game against timberwolves,i got my ticket already im so excited to see you guys especially KOBE.Can't wait....

Posted by: Adrian Palomar | July 29, 2010 at 01:39 AM

What terrible news. Looks like Drew is coming into the season gimp again and will re-injure himself immediately. People are clueless about him right now because we won another chip, but when we lose this year, things will start unraveling and we are going to look back at this point in time wondering why we didn't push for a trade for Drew when he still had some "value". It's not like the signs weren't there. By next season, we'll have a near max-contact player perennially on the disabled list for the remainder of his career while his contract counts against our salary cap. Expect these stupid decisions by Mitch along with Kobe's rapidly eroding level of play to push us to the lottery by the 2011-2012 season.

Posted by: BlackMamba24 | July 29, 2010 at 02:39 AM

He should have had the surgery in June, instead of gallivanting in South Africa. That is what serious players do and it is one reason he will never realize his potential. he is not aggressive enough. We should trade him if we can, because we will never get a full season out of him till he retires.

Posted by: keen observer | July 29, 2010 at 03:54 AM

Depending on your perspective, the news on Caracter is not good. Could be heading to Israel, Greece, Italy--you name it (just not to L.A.):

http://tinyurl.com/2g2ndag

Lot of teams willing to pony up for his services.

Lakers still have the rights, of course, but they will have to rethink the coming year's bench a bit.

A little sad, if this comes to pass. I had every expectation of D.C. being this year's DeJuan Blair. A diamond in the haystack who'd give us that Baby Davis energy and pow off the bench. Guess we'll have to count on Theo for that now ;-)

Posted by: t_sensei | July 29, 2010 at 04:09 AM
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Just as I have posted yesterday. I feel very good about DC. I think we may have diamond in the rough here. If he continue to develop and really focus on his game, he could be an all star caliber 4-5 years down the road. The guys game has maturity written all over.

Raise your hands lakers fans for those who loved the Lakers 16th and back to back titles. Guess what? No Bynum although hobbled no title and boston would be celebrating their 18th. Just his presence alone helped out the lakers immensely. Gasol can play center but not against a guy like Perkins. Bynum is a biiiig man and have a nice shooting touch. Bynum for Bosh is ridiculous. Only person I would trade Bynum for at this point is Dwight howard. Mitch get paid the big bucks to make intelligent decisions. I used to call him Mitch Kupcake but he has proven me wrong and even Kobe wrong in assembling this magnificent team. Mitch learnt from one of the greatest players but more importantly the absoloute greatest GM of all time West.

I hope they keep UPS and buyout Walton's contract. Brown is athletic and young two things the Lakers lack at this point. When Kobe sat out due to his injuries UPS did a great job as his replacement. With Blake leading the bench team Brown should flourish as the shooting guard. I hope the Lakers mix it up this year. Play triangle in our half court sets but push the ball in the open court and get easy hoops for guys like Brown/Odom/Barnes.

LakerTom - agreed on Bynum. Gotta love the hands also.

LakerTom,

re: personal. Yes, it became personal when you started insulting people.
Didn't your mother ever teach you manners?

re: vacation. Yes. Go on a long vacation.

recommended reading for you - English Composition and Grammar, any edition.
- critical thinking - Alex Fisher.
http://www.amazon.com/Critical-Thinking-Alec-Fisher/dp/0521009847

Safe journey

Hurray!!

More Bynum debates!

Umm, just for the record folks, these Bynum arguments are not anything new, they have been going on since Drew was a gleam in daddy's eye.
Ok, well, maybe that was a different kind of argument.

But as related to the Blog, the Bynum debates/arguments have been going on as long as Bynum has been around.

Here's just a small sampling, enjoy ( I deleted some of the posters names as they are still current posters and didn't see the need to stir that pot):


Bynum doesn't seem very athletic to me, He could be a little bit more athletic than Shawn Bradley, but that's it
Posted by: karl | May 06, 2007 at 03:39 PM


I still don't agree with this developing a project mentality that the Lakers seem to have invested Kobe's future in. And I'm equally disgusted with Kwame Brown, who's a worse player than Benoit Benjamin and Eldon Campbell, and the stats prove it. His big clumsy ass makes me sick to my stomach. He and Bynum need to be sent to the D league to do what they're suited to do, handwash the jockstraps of the starters.
Posted by: | May 06, 2007 at 03:49 PM


If Bynum was going to be "great" some day, you would expect that, in his second season, he would have great games every so often. But he only had one that I think you could classify that way, and that was early in the season. I don't see that bright a future for him.

And in his second season, 21 minutes a game should not be wearing him out.
Posted by: | May 06, 2007 at 04:38 PM


How can this clown suffer from physical fatiuge when he is only 19!? He should be able to do 39 cartwheels around the floor w/o a problem. The C+ grade is a little to generous in my opinion. Unless your trying to fool other GM's into thinking he has potential. Trade this youngster now!
Posted by: fkillah | May 06, 2007 at 04:45 PM


trade bynum ...fo better player to accomodate Kb since his value is high as potential star ....but we have no guarantee taht he will be an all star in 4 years...
Posted by: Farmteam | May 06, 2007 at 08:50 PM


I am actually amazed that so many Laker fans are disappointed in Andrew Bynum and predicting he will not become a superstar. Ex and the Bynum critics must think other team GMs are idiots to demand Bynum in every proposed deal with the Lakers. That’s a lot of interest in a player who ex thinks doesn’t have “that bright a future.”

In any event, I still see great hope that Andrew Bynum will be the next great Lakers center.
Posted by: | May 06, 2007 at 09:01 PM


We will have to wait for 30 years till we see something from this talentless big chunk of loser.

They are the BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE NBA.... They do not have the heart and does not have what it takes it... Its HEART that gets you somewhere in this league and this losers will never ever have that...
Posted by: Kit Sevilla | May 06, 2007 at 09:08 PM


I think Bynum has a good deal of VERY raw talent. Remember, it's not just that he's 19 and that KG, Shaq, et. al. were so much better at 19 than he is. It's that he's 19 and has almost NO experience playing AT ANY LEVEL.
Posted by: Zingaro | May 06, 2007 at 10:07 PM


I think Bynum will one day develop into a superstar we all have hoped he would be for the Lakers. However, I'm not certained if the Lakers have time to wait on his developing skills. Then on the flip side, Brown has his issues. I say get rid of them both for someone who brings their "A" game at least every other night.
Posted by: Roddy | May 07, 2007 at 07:57 AM


Holy Cow,
I now know that most of you have lost your minds. Trade Bynum for what?
Posted by: | May 07, 2007 at 07:44 PM


If the Lakers end up keeping Kwame and trading Bynum, that will confirm everything bad that's being said about Kupchak.

And I will have to question my status as a lifelong Lakers fan.
Posted by: | May 10, 2007 at 03:17 PM

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T Sensei,

There is no way the Lakers let Caracter sign with another team. He's too good and too cheap. And he'd be crazy to turn away from a team with Kobe in his prime.

Wes

FRAGILE
The Summer Sunrise,. Season 1, Episode 1
The Moderator

*****

It starts to make sense, all of this, after a while. You can't get over the fact that you follow, these teams, these players. It's all a swirl. The emotional losses and gains as your team, your Lakers, go through season. After season. After season.

It's a whirlwind, alright. But it's home. You know the world is a place full of wonderment, joy, and sometimes despair. Turning on the news over the last decade has given people in more panic attacks than can possibly be measured. And if you don't hear it from Soledad O'Brien or Joe Scarborough, you hear it from Patty school, or Ted at the water cooler.

You see, the thing is, in the end, we're all just souls in a state of forgetfulness. In a more serious forum, we'd talk about our breathe, the concept of imagination, or the inexplicable nature of our dreams.

But no!

We can't have this discussion. We simply can't.

We can't talk about our glory. How we feel in the driver's seat(s). We won't discuss the 3-straight Finals appearances. or the back-to-back O'Brien's.

No!

The only responsible thing to do is talk about the three thieves. We can only talk, I'm afraid, of the Maeamy Heats. The team that hijacked our summer.

..

"It's Maeamy right?"

"Heats?"

..

''What state is that in?"


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The fix was in. Reilly had been mugging this deal for weeks. It was a couple year old daydream, but the lucidity of this one was not waring off and it was an amazing time to do the impossible. Miami was having a particularly burlesque summer, with little problems, and lots of sex. The town was buzzing like Bangkok.

Pat had always been charming. His style from the get was to befriend first, use for access later. It was a pretty common sensible approach, but rarely used by the masses. Pat had a way with words, because he focused on the way he spoke, and he also never shied away from his relationships. He'd invested in many. Lost a few. His ratio for losing his watch was once every 15 years, so he had a pretty good memory. Living on the southern tip of the Floridian coast, he had seen his fare share of women.

Pat needed a parting shot. He had been ruined by his now realized arch-nemesis Phil Jackson throughout the decade. The 90's recorded Jackson neutering Reilly. His Bad Boy Knickerbockers were heartbroken incessantly by Jordan and his simultaneous proclamation that New York was the "mecca of Basketball". Alonzo was helpless against Pippen and Jordan double-teams, a new brand of Basketball was born. From right under Reilly's grip, the Bulls had stolen showtime from the guy who turned the lights on in the first place.

Phil had orchestrated it all. And he was now on the cusp of the unthinkable.

'The Dozen."

Something had to be done.


***

"Come on, call that foul, ref! He's been doing that all game!"

I ain't been doin' nothin, man. You actin' like this is the WNBA or suttin'!

"Man, don't even talk to me.."

Why not!? Whach' you think..

"Stop it, man.."

You ain't done nothin' man!

"I'm a champion, man. Don't even try to step to me.."

Yeah! Whatever son, you rode Shaq's balls to that ring!

"What!?"

You heard me, man. You got a lucky ring. 20 free's a game. David Stern and those boys gave you that ring! You better..

"Are you nuts!?"

We're blowing you out! This series is over!

".. you..'"

It's over. Go fishing, Dwyane. We are not going back to Miami."

"..."

..

"I'm gonna see you next season."


THE preceding was a conversation which took place in the closing moments of Game 5, in the first of round of the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Dwayne Wade and his Heat would be eliminated this game, and the Celtics would move on to play the Cavaliers. The quotations are between Wade and Celtics leading man, Rajon Rondo.

Dwyane would walk directly to his locker after this game, sans shower, and immediately grab his cell phone and fire off a set of unknown text messages.

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Part 2 to come.

Floyd! Nice to see another Zappa fan here!


MM,

The previous post was immaturely posted due to error.

Please do not approve, remove, or edit to nil.


Saludos,

The Moderator

Dwyane would walk directly to his locker after this game, sans shower, and immediately grab his cell phone and fire off a set of unknown text messages.Part 2 to come. Posted by: The Moderator | July 29, 2010 at 06:48 AM
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And suddenly it all becomes a lil clearer! You aint lost the magic Moderator. I eagerly await Part 2, in the meantime let me just say...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! and Thanks!! Carry On!

Kobe's surgery on knees - check
Kobe fingers - trainer's rehab iffie

Bynum's knee - check

Fisher - check
FA's signings Blake, Barnes, Raitliff - check

LO's shoulder problem - disappeared
Walton's back and foot problems - iffie
Shannon Brown - iffie
Sasha being move - iffie

Draftee D. Caracter - waiting game
Draftee Ebanks - waiting game

We can't declare vacation yet until the iffie's and waiting game are resolved. LakerTom is gone for leave of absence, I hope dissenters would also tone down the analysis-paralysis. Basketball game cannot be played in the blog but in the court. Once you've expressed your opinion, THAT'S IT game is over.

Good morning everybody. May today be better than yesterday.
A smile..a laugh... is a goal worthwhile.

Its all about respect........

We all have had some ideas we have posted and then had them knocked down a few notches.

It can be humbling, but a learning experience as well. But none of us like our ideas to be belittled with insults.

Hurling insults freely, like that is 'stupid'.....'only an idiot would suggest such a thing'......'mindless'...to name such a few, stifles good communication and promotes an unhealthy blog.

Some blogs don't allow it. A warning is given by moderators as a reminder that 'poor blog manners' are not permitted.

My wife is deep into the horse blogs and is shocked at the treatment some receive here. Its just not allowed on her blogs. They have healthy debates, but they are respectful. When it gets 'out of hand', apologies come freely, and they move on.

Now Trolls is another thing. They come on purposely to rile the blog and many love to banter back and forth, as they defend our Lakers. But dealing with one's own family rudely is a different matter.

We will all make mistakes. We will all hurl insults, either intentional or un-intentional. But we all have the ability to apologize, smooth things over and go on.

To quote one commenter, "Its all about the love", but you can add to that, 'we need to respect one another'.

This blog deserves no less.

Once you've expressed your opinion, THAT'S IT game is over.
Posted by: Edwin Gueco | July 29, 2010 at 07:20 AM
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Except in Lakerville, that small town of Lakerholics who reside in the ether of the internet, where it's never over, for their destiny is to talk all thing Lakers, all the time, like a never ending ground hog day.
The players come and go just like the bloggers, only the names change, the story remains the same, and it's too big for anyone to ever say, game over.

Off Topic

Congratulations Spain Catalonia region recent news in ruling out bullfights, at last they came to senses that it's barbaric. I wished Philippines will follow in ruling out cockfighting.

Congratulation Arizona Superior Court in rendering the right justice on the immigration issue. Employers should not hire illegals but the state should follow the federal law. That's the very foundation of United States was born, not United Arizona.

Condolence to Lorenzen Wright's family. No word why he was killed?

Belated Happy Birthday to Puddle.

We talked of Kobe's knees, Drew's surgery but have no bulletin on Mark Medina's surgery on the hand. It is the hand that handles the blog.

Good morning everybody. May today be better than yesterday.
A smile..a laugh... is a goal worthwhile. Posted by: Gilbert Battung | July 29, 2010 at 07:26 AM
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Aw shucks Gilbert Battung is on the scene, spreading quotes of inspritaion, ooh the boy's mean.
I can barely write a poem or a song, Damn I wish my name was Gilbert Battung!!
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Good Morning Gilbert sir, I thank you for this inspirational start to the day and I shall attempt to follow your teachings the rest of the day Sensei!! Yeah tho I walk thru the valley of Evil Trolls I fear not their Evil for I have the Teachings of Gilbert Battung with me!
Mamba24

Wes,

I totally agree with your response to TSensei regarding Caracter. Caracter's dream is to play in the NBA, something he's said adamantly himself after the draft and prior to the start of summer league. He's also very grateful to the Lakers organization for taking a chance on him and giving him this opportunity. However, the only way I envision him going to Europe, is if Mitch and the Lakers encourage him to go that route and then bring him back in a year or two. I just don't see that happening, because the Lakers brass know that they potentially have more than a diamond in the rough. Of course there's always the lure of money, but I think Caracter will stay on his current path and stick it out with the Lakers.

Except in Lakerville, that small town of Lakerholics who reside in the ether of the internet, where it's never over, for their destiny is to talk all thing Lakers, all the time, like a never ending ground hog day. The players come and go just like the bloggers, only the names change, the story remains the same, and it's too big for anyone to ever say, game over. Posted by: Art - FL Lakers Fan | July 29, 2010 at 07:30 AM
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!....OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!

To quote one commenter, "Its all about the love", but you can add to that, 'we need to respect one another'. This blog deserves no less.Posted by: Fatty | July 29, 2010 at 07:27 AM
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Well folks I guess you know what's coming so I shall dispense with the mysteries and just say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING FAT MAN!! KUDOS SIR!!
MAMBA24

Still no news on Shannon?

Unless something more complicated is going on.....because it seems to me a little money stuff going back and forth can be accomplished rather quickly.

Palomar - You are going to have a blast watching the Lakers play in London. Will they allow some time and a place to meet the players?

Mambatwentyfour -

I am extremely offended by the Fat Man reference!! hahaha

May the fleas of 10,000 Camels infest your arm pits! lol

Fatty, the Fat Man from Flagstaff

Mambatwentyfour - I am extremely offended by the Fat Man reference!! hahaha May the fleas of 10,000 Camels infest your arm pits! lol Fatty, the Fat Man from Flagstaff Posted by: Fatty | July 29, 2010 at 07:59 AM

NO, NO, NO Father Fatty I have sinned please forgive me!! Now ordinary dog fleas, thats cool. But GOD$$##%&&*&*$ Camel Fleas? Why Fatty Why? Rotflmao!!

Justa,
You have been and will always be one of my favorite Laker bloggers. Knowledgable, funny, friendly, blah blah blah, I mean etc. etc. etc.

Now why would you think it would make me happy if you self-banned.

If you did, I would definately call you an elitist blogger having too much pull with MM.


Posted by: Troll Man | July 28, 2010 at 10:40 PM


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Troll Man - I can't thank you enough. That was the absolute best back-handed compliment I have ever received. EVER.

MM - what are you talking about? You know I'm going to the ASG in LA with you. You keep trying to fight this, but it's your density... umm... destiny....

Hey Justanothermambafan guess what?
The Thread didn't change! LMAO!!!

So Justa, there are limits to your powers after all! Lol!

I think it's better to trade Sasha now if that's the plan. We all know Phil doesn't like when players don't go through triangle training camp, unless the player has prior experience. Look how long it takes players to get it. If they do any trade deadline deals it would be for cap relief or draft picks.

Rick Friedman / Tom Daniels - Thanks for being voices of reason around here. It gets old rehashing the same bad argument all the time....

Come on you guys - give it a rest please. The Lakers we all love are back to back CHAMPS. We're working on the 3-peat. Is it really necessary to go at each other like hyenas on a chihuahau? Enjoy the summer. Reminisce in the glow. These days are going to be gone all too soon - is it really going to make you happier when that day comes, to think that you won a stupid argument?


Mamba24 - we're having technical issues today. Not to worry - they'll be at full strength soon enough. Then watch out!! Muahahahahaha!!

Please everyone weigh in on the question.

Would you trade Bynum for Bosh now? We give Bynum to Lebron and Wade and we take back Bosh. For my money that would set up the Heat to rule the NBA for the next several years as they would have an intimidating force in the middle.

Mamba24 - we're having technical issues today. Not to worry - they'll be at full strength soon enough. Then watch out!! Muahahahahaha!!Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 29, 2010 at 08:30 AM
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Come on Justa we family, I was just playing with you, give a brother a break. Pleasssssse!

Mamba24...you are just one funny guy. A glue that keep us together in Lakerville. May your tribe increase. Good morning to you too, Sir.

Would you trade Bynum for Bosh now?Posted by: LakerReality | July 29, 2010 at 08:32 AM


No,No,HELL NO! I wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh, TODAY, TOMMOROW OR EVER!

justanothermambafan --


*clapping*

FINALLY...another voice of reason. I agree with you about the maturity shown by Rick Friedman and Tom Daniels. Kudos to those guys.

We consider this small sampling of Lakers Nation to be like a "family" and sure, families do bicker and fight on occasion.

BUT...at the end of the day, even if we 'agree to disagree' we should extend each other some grace and civility. Let us NOT tear each other apart with infighting.

ESPECIALLY since this site RECORDS our written words! It's not like something spoken, which gets uttered, then may be forgotten.

PLEASE keep this in mind...those of you who decide to put down your thoughts...in writing!


P & G R


P.S. (justanothermambafan) As I mentioned in live chat, I am working on posting some thoughts about the improvements to our Lakers this offseason. Not to worry, it won't be inflammatory or incendiary. Although I could indulge that Dark Side if I wanted to, I do try to 'practice what I preach' haha.

May your tribe increase. Good morning to you too, Sir.Posted by: Gilbert Battung | July 29, 2010 at 08:36 AM
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Right back at you my brother! Carry On!

Mamba24 - notice the new thread?


We're baaaaaacckkk!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Reign - looking forward to it!

Bynum for Bosh???


OH HELL NO.


'nuf said

Mamba24 - notice the new thread? Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 29, 2010 at 08:50 AM

OK, OK, OK I made a mistake I'm sorry. I BELIEVE! Just remember:
WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY JUSTA!!
Use it wisely!
Mamba24

In a perfect Percocet/Absolut world......

Sasha in his contract year averages 45% from the 3 line. - "Told you, Maria says thing the same, Ma-cheen delivers 45% of time."

Andrew Bynum stays healthy and dominates the paint - "Just try and come into my house....Sucker!"

The 'New Bench Mob' averages more minutes that the starters because of blowouts - "Coach, We're tired..can you not play us so much?"

Phil orders the 'New Bench Mob' to blow an occasional lead so the Lakers can practice 4th quarter close games for the playoffs - "Okay guys, I know this will be hard, but try and act like you are lousy and let the Celtics back into it"

The Lakers are winning by so much that Stu and Lantz can do their post-game interviews DURING the 4th quarter. - "Hi, I'm Stu..."and I'm Lance" sitting on the Lakers bench with our game hero, Derek and next to him his lovely wife."

Lamar Odom can go an entire game without missing one lay-up, not traveling, not giving up a charge, while going equally as good to his right. - "Yeah, my head was crooked. Who would've known it only took a simple adjustment from my Chiropractor to straighten out my game"

Kobe only has to force up shots in practice, while betting with the new rooks Ebanks and Caracter - "You guys want to earn some extra money playing a game of horse with me?"

Ron Artest rushes up into the stands, not to fight, but to lead the Lakers faithful to his new Rap version of, "We love LA" - (use your imagination)

Caracter develops incredible 'Hulk like strength' while carrying all the vets bags on the road. - "What a privilege to be a Lakers, carrying all the Vets luggage and Ebanks on my shoulders all season long" "Hey Caracter, I can see my house up here!"

Yes, in a Percocet/Absolut Vodka induced world, things are looking pretty good for the Lakers.

"The Lakers are winning by so much that Stu and Lantz can do their post-game interviews DURING the 4th quarter. - "Hi, I'm Stu..."and I'm Lance" sitting on the Lakers bench with our game hero, Derek and next to him his lovely wife."
Posted by: Fatty | July 29, 2010 at 09:20 AM "

Split personality? I must admit it'd be nice if Joel Meyers could be traded for another Stu.

PART 1 of 2


I think the lure, to Mark Gasol, to win a championship with his brother will be

great. He is young enough that he can come here for a year or three..and still

start elsewhere. He is a starter everywhere else...so i realize that might be

what he wants. But he can get the rings first, and money second. How much would he

pay for the memories of winning championships with his Pau? A lot im gonna

guess...esp since he is young and can get the money later in his career.

However, i will accept any young Center (3rd string) for a one year contract to

suck up minutes from Drew and Theo. Saving them for the playoffs.

My bigger question is...Everyone thinks we need a guard for perimeter shooting.

That's good for us....but it will not make or break us. If Bynum goes down we are

SO SCREWED. So the next move is a young gun 2nd string center to suck up minutes.

Its worth both 2011 draft picks (esp if we keep both rookies).

Again...if we get a 'Luke IR exemption for this year we can find a great SG in

Europe without loosing draft picks.

PART 2 0F 2


If BYNUM does go down this coming year (God forbid), if we secured Mark Gasol this

year we can give him the starting job next year. Or platoon it like wewill this

year with PG and Steve Blake and Fish.

I think 3 peat swings on BYNUM's health.

Next piece... young 3rd string Center from Timberwolves for Sasha and a pick. If we

can trade up for a better Center after that (Gasol?) ...great...if not... a back up

shooting guard (sasha or otherwise) will not deny us a 3 peat. BYNUM goes down with

out a 3rd string...we will not 3 peat...and Bynum has little trade value next year.

Miami will be off an rolling if they win first year.

We can get another Center with trade with Sasha (if possible)....Or...
With the IR excemption from Luke not being able to play in 2011...

3rd string Center is the next piece!!!


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