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Lebron is to the NBA what Delonte is to Lebron's mom.

That's it.

This was asked:
Why are people still concerned with Shannon Brown? With the starting 5, then Blake, Barnes, and Odom in the rotation, when (or better yet WHY) would Shannon get any minutes?

The response:

Because you're trying to give Kobe Bryant a rest.

Because you'd like to be
able to rest all of your starters in order to be ready for the playoffs.

Because LO is the 2nd string PF, Barnes is a 2nd string SF & Blake is a 2nd
string PG.

Very busy today...Just squeezing in my daily Haiku...

Sasha Vujacic...
The Machine will be back...
Eyebrows looking good...

2010-2011 NBA season will be the "Rise of the Machine".

2010-2011 NBA season will be the "Rise of the Machine".
Posted by: Terry Diniz | July 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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Catchy, I like it!

Because LO is the 2nd string PF, Barnes is a 2nd string SF & Blake is a 2nd string PG. Posted by: hobbitmage | July 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM
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Sound reasoning as always sir!

The response:

Because you're trying to give Kobe Bryant a rest.

"Because you'd like to be
able to rest all of your starters in order to be ready for the playoffs.

Because LO is the 2nd string PF, Barnes is a 2nd string SF & Blake is a 2nd
string PG.

Posted by: hobbitmage | July 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM"

And? Say Fisher is playing 30, Kobe is playing 35, and Artest is also at 35. That leaves 44 minutes a game for the 3 small positions. Blake and Barnes are going to be getting at least 15-20 minutes each right? And Odom gets a few in that slot when Gasol is playing. Vujacic hasn't even entered the game yet and we're already out of time. You're talking about garbage time minutes at best for Shannon. Not a factor.

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I FREAKIN HATE PRINCESS JIMMY - BANDWAGON
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(01) RICK FRIEDMAN - OWNER – I ask you, apart from James' brawn and motor skills, what's appealing about this guy? He defined himself by refusing to shake hands after the Orlando Magic spanked his team in the playoffs. He misled the Cav's owner into thinking the team had a chance to retain him, all the while colluding to obtain something else. He chose his own interviewer for an ESPN special that bored America to tears. He partied like a rock star in Vegas, then leaned on ESPN to spike an undercover story by its own reporter. Then flips-off a hometown fan who only wants to take a photo with him. And he's still David Stern's poster boy for the NBA. Go figure!


(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL - Any bandwagon Rick F. starts - add me to it. Especially regarding the Greenies or Sheat. Woohoo!
(12) TERRY DINIZ - Lebron is to the NBA what Delonte is to Lebron's mom.

You're talking about garbage time minutes at best for Shannon. Not a factor. Posted by: Bay to LA | July 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Call it Garbage time minutes or whatever somebody stil has to make up those minutes.

"You're talking about garbage time minutes at best for Shannon. Not a factor. Posted by: Bay to LA | July 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Call it Garbage time minutes or whatever somebody stil has to make up those minutes.

Posted by: Mamba24 | July 30, 2010 at 11:29 AM "

Of course, it's imperative to have 12 guys suited up, but it doesn't matter if Shannon is one of them.

Mamba24,

Hate is such a strong word for me, you know my demeanor and all, ha, ha. Let me just say, I don't appreciate LBJ's lack of personal responsibility, ha, ha!

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I FREAKIN HATE PRINCESS JIMMY - BANDWAGON
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(01) RICK FRIEDMAN - OWNER – I ask you, apart from James' brawn and motor skills, what's appealing about this guy? He defined himself by refusing to shake hands after the Orlando Magic spanked his team in the playoffs. He misled the Cav's owner into thinking the team had a chance to retain him, all the while colluding to obtain something else. He chose his own interviewer for an ESPN special that bored America to tears. He partied like a rock star in Vegas, then leaned on ESPN to spike an undercover story by its own reporter. Then flips-off a hometown fan who only wants to take a photo with him. And he's still David Stern's poster boy for the NBA. Go figure!


(13) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - I never did like Princess Jimmy..........Him and his chalk throwing, picture taking, riverdancing, was just a little bit too much to stomach. It's nice to see he's getting some bad press, except for BSPN. Give him a year in Miami and we'll see the REAL side of the self annointed KING!!!!!!!!

Hate is such a strong word for me, you know my demeanor and all, ha, ha. Let me just say, I don't appreciate LBJ's lack of personal responsibility, ha, ha! Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | July 30, 2010 at 11:43 AM
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It's about what I would expect from a class guy like you DJ!


Mamba24,

Thanks, ha, ha! Lakers 3-Peat is on the way!

Thanks, ha, ha! Lakers 3-Peat is on the way! Posted by: D(erek)J(eter) | July 30, 2010 at 11:52 AM
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That's double 3-peat DJ! Lol!

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Who´s the real MVP in this current laker team, MVPau or Kobe.
.President Obama thinks is MVPau and Kobe is the sidekick

HA!!!! Put me on the Princess Jimmy Bandwagon!!! Le Crab dug his own grave, let him lie in it with his backwards ideals and crab dribble.

1 more post. I think the main reason for Bynum to stay healthy is Pau Gasol. A. Bynum is the "Robertos Dueñas" clon (rebounder, stopper, block shotter in F.C. Barcelona during Pau Gasol Time) With A.B. healthy we can see the best Pau Gasol version this season.

2010-2011 NBA season will be the "Rise of the Machine".

Posted by: Terry Diniz | July 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM

I bet will be the "Risk of the Machine"

lll, hey don't even give those mf's the silver and black title! that's dingy grey and black eyes, mostly from manu flopping into elbows,

lll, hey don't even give those mf's the silver and black title! that's dingy grey and black eyes, mostly from manu flopping into elbows, Posted by: raiderlaker1980 | July 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM

OOOOOOOOOH WEEEEEEEEEE!! DON'T FRAK WITH THE LAKER BLOG BROTHERS EITHER
OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!

Hate may be a strong word but that's the only word that can describe my feelings for Princess Jimmy. Not only is he a certified creep but I think he might even have a low IQ. Is he really that dim that during those times when he's alone with his thoughts he cannot even think about the right thing to do? Maybe that's the problem. He doesn't even think.

raiderlaker1980,

I can understand why you might not want me to give them the silver and black nod, but those are their colors. What am I gonna do?

2010-2011 NBA season will be the "Rise of the Machine".
Posted by: Terry Diniz | July 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM

I bet will be the "Risk of the Machine"
Posted by: MrNano | July 30, 2010 at 12:17 PM

LOL! STOP IT MR.NANO! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! HAHAHA!

Celtics

Rondo/Nate Robinson
Allen/Marquis Daniels
Pierce
Garnett/Glenn Davis/ Sheed Wallace (C/F)
Perkins (injured, out beginning of season)/J O'Neal

Heat

Chalmers/Carlos Arroyo
Wade/Mike Miller
Labron/James Jones
Bosh/Udonis Haslem/Juwan Howard
Joel Anthony/Zydrunas Ilgauskas


Anyone care to do the player match up analysis and explain who they think wins a 7 game series? I don't know enough about many of them to do it, so just wondering how it looks for next year...

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I FREAKIN HATE PRINCESS JIMMY - BANDWAGON
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(01) RICK FRIEDMAN - OWNER – I ask you, apart from James' brawn and motor skills, what's appealing about this guy? He defined himself by refusing to shake hands after the Orlando Magic spanked his team in the playoffs. He misled the Cav's owner into thinking the team had a chance to retain him, all the while colluding to obtain something else. He chose his own interviewer for an ESPN special that bored America to tears. He partied like a rock star in Vegas, then leaned on ESPN to spike an undercover story by its own reporter. Then flips-off a hometown fan who only wants to take a photo with him. And he's still David Stern's poster boy for the NBA. Go figure!
(02) JON K – CO/OWNER - Few things were more infuriating than during the best Finals of the decade--Lakers and Celtics going seven games--and they're talking about where LeCreep is going to go at halftime.
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – DRIVER - I'll tell you what princess jimmy's legacy is going to be: When the going gets tough, the princess jumps in her Barbie convertible and takes her talents to South Beach.
(04) TIM-4-SHOW RIDING SHOTGUN - everywhere he goes he just keeps pissing people off left and right. Talent, fame, and money will corrupt the corruptible. LBJ is living proof of that.
(05) NEMAIA FALETOGO – SECURITY - What is more troubling to me is that the article says that he left with LO in an Excursion afterwards. I don't think it's a good idea for LO to be associating himself with this guy. I mean, a man can hang out with whoever he wants, but people need to choose their friends more carefully.
(06) MAMBA24 – Princess Jimmy will....NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER HAVE A FREAKIN LEGACY!
(07) WESJOENIXON - Wow. That's ugly. The guy says "LeBron, Cleveland still loves you" and LeBron gives him the finger. This will be one of the defining moments of LeBron's career, I believe. I was waiting for LeBron to address his hometown fans in some way, and I guess he finally did. Creep of the year, without adoubt. And what is Lamar doing laughing with James while this was happening? That just show's how dumb Lamar is. Come on Odom, wipe the greasy streak of fame from yourself, and get some perspective. I expected better from Lamar. when someone disrespects the fans like LeBron is doing, I say take the gloves off and pummel him. I never had a problem with LeBron, not even as every Laker fan hated on him. But what I saw him do to the youngest, most sincere fans in Cleveland turned him into a monster in my eyes. And now the clear, concise "F-U" to all the Cleveland fans? I say get the dogs out and chase LeBron until his wretched soul is turned back into a pile of liver or whatever LeBron was before he became famous.
(08) HTJ - But just for the sheer sake of rubbing it in Princess Jimmy's face a little more, I say we bring Delonte "Lebron's New Daddy" West in. LOL!
(09) POINT FORWARD - I wish the Lakers could sign Delonte so he could yeah.. you know what I'm talking about.. Calle Ocho Miami with - pick your trio's GF. Get inside their thick heads. That and being the gym bag handler/test dummy at team practice. But Delonte still has a decent stroke.
(10) MAGIC PHIL - Dude, most of his (PRINCESS JIMMY’S) stuff is ILEGAL! The guy is even forgeting how to play, he just bull his way to the paint, score and wait for the whistle. When he hits a bunch of 3s, that impresses me...but he's ALWAYS pushing his defender coz Stern spoils him. GREAT? LOL...So why he have ZERO RINGS? Wade is great, have 1...What you think is great is LBJ + REFS = GREAT LBJ + Stern = worst thing ever happen to NBA...
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL - Any bandwagon Rick F. starts - add me to it. Especially regarding the Greenies or Sheat. Woohoo!
(12) TERRY DINIZ - Lebron is to the NBA what Delonte is to Lebron's mom.
(13) NEWMEXICOLAKERLIFER - I never did like Princess Jimmy..........Him and his chalk throwing, picture taking, riverdancing, was just a little bit too much to stomach. It's nice to see he's getting some bad press, except for BSPN. Give him a year in Miami and we'll see the REAL side of the self annointed KING!!!!!!!!
(14) LONGTIMELAKERLOVER - HA!!!! Put me on the Princess Jimmy Bandwagon!!! Le Crab dug his own grave, let him lie in it with his backwards ideals and crab dribble.

HA!!!! Put me on the Princess Jimmy Bandwagon!!! Le Crab dug his own grave, let him lie in it with his backwards ideals and crab dribble. Posted by: longtimelakerlover | July 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM

LADIES AND GENTS ANOTHER QUOTE OF THE WEEK!

Almost as many championships as the Spurs will win in the next 5 years: ZERO!! Go home little boy. You are outmatched and outwitted. Go cry in your little silver and black bedroom, curled in a fetal position and wilting away...
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | July 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM
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Posted by: Mamba24 | July 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM

That's right!

lll diiiingy grey, dammit, diiiingy grey lol

raider - dinnnnnnnnggggggggggy grey it is!

Yahoo sports reported that the Trailblazers are trading Rudy Fernandez. Attention Mr. Kupchak, if we cant make a deal for Shannon, why not trade him for Rudy. The guy can shoot, not bad for his D. can play multiple positions (SG/SF), can jump ( look at his highlights ), can pass. Besides he's a team mate of Pau in the Spanish nationals. If we can take him, look at the future next year when Ricky Rubio decides to enter the NBA.

The LeBron "lovin-the-community-kids" tour just made another stop. Now there's a story that LeBron kicked a volley ball camp out of a gym so he can practice. Is this a new event from LeAzzhole or something old that I missed?


Wes

@NEMAIA... You make an excellent point about Shannon not making as many waves as Sasha or Jordan but I am not sure I agree that that is the main reason the Lakers may end up keeping him. While Jordan definitely was not wanted, I think the real reason why the Lakers may possibly keep Shannon and let Sasha go is money. Dropping Sasha would save $11M in salary and luxury taxes while signing Sasha would probably only add $5M.
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Talent wise, it probably doesn’t really matter whether we keep Shannon or Sasha since we’re talking about the 9th or 10th man in the rotation. Personally, I prefer Sasha because he has the potential to fill a big need on this team with his 3-point shooting. I know Shannon actually shot better but I don’t think anybody believes that he would consistently shoot a higher percentage. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this works out.
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Posted by: LakerTom | July 30, 2010 at 10:02 AM

LT,

I agree with your post, thanks for your response.

Wow. I hit a nerve.

I like it.

here's something else to chew on... Duncans' relevance the last 5 years, dwindling, Kobes' career acheivements, still collecting. Also look at your own facts, Tony Parker won mvp for one of those titles, so that would make TD the bitch for 1 ring... AND total ring count between the two? What did the five fingers say to the face?

"This is why Brown is valued by his mates, coaches and the FO, because he doesn't bring all that baggage with him and does whatever is asked of him. Maybe it's the same reason(s)they keep Luke around...just sayin'.

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | July 30, 2010 at 09:12 AM"

Sorry to be sarcastic, but it's that albatross contract of his that keeps him around....still like 3 years @ an average of 5.6 million per year......I really wonder if there is a way to trade him...probably not. Not wishing bad luck/Karma upon him, but the only way the Lakers could get out of it would be if his back were so bad that he was forced to retire. Then the league would give the Lakers some credit back, I can't remember if it's full, or partial, but whatever they would get back would be $2 for the $1, because they are over the cap. If he were to retire, he could probably easily transition into broadcasting or coaching (lower level assistant to start)....so his gravy train does not end at the end of his playing days, just his glory days....

Posted by: humanomaly (ow) | July 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Humanomaly (ow),

Thanks for your response. I completely agree with your points regarding Luke's contract, trading him, bad back and possible retirement. I was just making the comparison between Shannon and Luke character wise and that while Luke did perform well before getting his new contract(which personally I don't think he deserved IMO), both the coaching staff and FO loved Luke's team first approach, attitude and character. That's the point I was trying to make because they're both well liked by teammates, coaches and management. I really don't think that the same can be said or is completely true of either Farmar or Vujacic. I don't want to belabor the point about Luke's play, because honestly he hasn't contributed much in the past two years, but when you hear mates, coaches and management, there's a genuine affection for Luke because he's a great person. Kobe and LO rave about him.

Thanks again for posting.

lol ok I return to normal chat, idiots like this, why do I even give them the time of day? Run away simba, this is the Lakers blog, never return

Spurs fan -

You forgot one important stat:

NBA Championships ALL TOLLED: Kobe 5 with a three-peat and a back to back. Duncan, 3, one every other year.

But - I will give you this: Tim Duncan is awesome and can flat out play. Love him, love him, love him, and if he was on my team - you know I'd be all about him.

If you want to be taken seriously here, post about basketball. It's cool to disagree and even tout your team's strengths, etc.. But if you want to come on and talk smack, expect a smack down.

TD is a stud, listed as greatest pf ever, yes in his own position.. Kobe, arguably 2nd greatest plater EVER no positions excluded, you done chewing yet? Need a glass of water before I continue?

A SPURS TROLL?????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!


Yup - it's summertime.


and that should say second greatest player ever.. dam this no edit :(

If you hit "preview" instead of "post" when you're done with your comment, you can get to an "edit" button from there.

This has been a public service announcement.


lol ty for the psa, yes i usually hit preview, in my haste to tell this loser what the truth is, i tabbed over twice and hit post...next time i will follow your guidelines o wise one :)

Shaq and Kwame might play with the Leprechauns. Are they that desperate?

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | July 30, 2010 at 11:01 AM

The funny part is Shaq pratically begging the Celtics to take him and Ainge is slow playing him.

Ahhhhh - you are welcome, grasshopper....

:)

Sometimes I, yes I feel sorry for Princess Jimmy, But then my Daughter slaps the ISH out of me and I come back to reality.

Posted by: Mamba24 | July 30, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Listen to your daughter. There's no crying in "basketball". Anyway I don't feel sorry for him. I just don't hate him like some

LRob - hope you took my comments as being made with the "i'm funny dammit" font on.... :) I should have added an LOL or 2...!

I have to say, I don't hate Lebron, I hate what ESPN and these people who prematurely annointed him a king has allowed him to become. That's the real injustice and travesty, yes he's an a-hole, he's not the first and won't be the last spoiled rich a-hole athelete. What I really can't stand is the pedastal he's placed on, not him as an individual.

Posted by: raiderlaker1980 | July 30, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Agreed. I don't buy into the hype when its overboard positive or negative.

Justa,

Yep, I took it with a smile. It's all good.

Agreed. I don't buy into the hype when its overboard positive or negative.
Posted by: LRob | July 30, 2010 at 01:42 PM
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! PURE CLASS!! But...I STILL HATE PRINCESS JIMMY! Sorry LRob it's hard to break long standing habits. But at least thanks to you I'm questioning them!
MAMBA24

Posted by: Spurs2011NBAChamps | July 30, 2010 at 12:51 PM

LA Lakers number of times beating the Spurs:
2001, 2002, 2004, 2008

SA Spurs number of times beating the Lakers:
1999, 2003

LA Lakers OWNED TD's Spurs 4-2.

Tim D: Great player. Top 10 list. #1 PF. That being said: Not even as dominant as Shaq was. Owned by the Lakers constantly. Barely shot 50% as a POST player. Got swept by long time nemesis PHX despite obvious size advantage.

Tiago Splitter? Rookie. Will have to learn NBA game. To be even considered as Tim's successor is laughable. GINOBILI-getting older. Parker great supporting player no go to guy.

San Antonio had a great run. Great rivalry. More respect to them than Phoenix or Sacramento rivalries. That being said. 20 years of Spurs success going to be gone. David Robinson no longer in NBA. Tim despite being consistent no longer dominant.

Sun has set in San Antonio just as it will soon in Phoenix.

Wow. So having 4 titles, one of the top 10 centers to ever play, the greatest PF to ever play and the most overrated tourist destination ever isn't enough to wipe out San Antonio's inferiority complex.

I guess that's what happens when you try to measure up against the greatest city with the greatest NBA franchise - a franchise with 16 championships, the most wins in league history, the team with the greatest point guard ever, greatest center ever, 2nd greatest SG ever, the man who graces the NBA logo, and the reigning back-to-back NBA Champions.

Who's next?

Mamba24..............That's how I really feel and I'm sticken to it!!!LOL...and I thank you for adding me to that bandwagon. Wish there was some news on Brown and Sasha.

"Kobe, arguably 2nd greatest plater EVER no positions excluded"

I think what you meant to write was "Kobe, arguably 2nd greatest rapist EVER no positions excluded"

As for being the second greatest baller ever, you've got to be joking. He's not even the second best LAKER ever, a distant 5th behind Magic, Wilt, Jerry and Kareem, and not necessarily in that order. You could argue Baylor was better. And add Shaq to that list, who was FAR more dominant as a Laker than Kobe will ever be.

No wonder the world calls you FAKER fans, you don't know jack about your own team's history, let alone the NBA. Bandwagon Kobe nuthuggers, love him when he's on top like in Colorado, but in La La Land when the "Lake Show" can't even make the playoffs.

And of course you bandwagon nutjobs will turn on Kobe just like you did with Shaq when Kobe leaves, pissed he's not "the man" on the team anymore when Pau is clearly the better player, or even Bynum, if his injuries don't steal away a decent career.

As for the number of rings, I have two words for you: Robert Horry.

That's right bitches, and if the Lakers didn't have Horry, Tim would own 6 rings right now. And all as "The Man", not like "The Bitch" that Kobe is to Shaq. You can't change history, no matter how much you revisionist babies try. But that goes to show how "loyal" your front office is, not only stabbing Shaq in the back after he gift-wrapped them their first rings since Magic, but screws Horry after he misses ONE SHOT, after all the playoff-winning 3 pointers he made for them. Funny they did the same to Fisher as well, or are none of you bandwagon Faker fans old enough to remember? He was only allowed to come back when Kobe, Mr. I'll Screw Everyone in the Ass Including My Coach (Not Just Hotel Workers) finally got his ass spanked by Phil and came to understand the stupidity of his ways. Kobe loving Fisher? That would have been as funny in 2004 as "Kobe isn't a rapist" is in 2010.

PART 1 OF 4


Fellow Laker fans... Please tell me what you think?
Please be kind....of course itsa brain storm...
...or course i dont know ever cap rule!!


Id love to hear you ideas and comments....
I think Mitch has a few more big moves in him this summer (I hope) ...:)

Remember...The miami gang will only hang together if they win either ONE of the next two. Otherwise Riley is gonna start loosen 'top' players who came lookin for a ring. So we should go all out in these next 2 years to build a MONSTAR!! Go Lakers!!


In my mind the biggest impact player player we could get would be
Mark Gasol.... (or any strong back up Center) . I think we should be willing to
give up several draft picks for Gasol (1st and second rounders). Its his last year with his Memphis contract. And couple players and a couple picks. might pry him loose..? If not we end up with a lesser 3rd string Center and some trade able parts for mid season.

In my mind the end result of a series of trades should net us
another back up center (Mark Gasol!?) and ..if lucky...2 shooting guards (one second string defensive/veteran (NBA), and one third string offensive/youth (Europe?) ).

My reasoning is thus..... The more minute away from Bynum to give him a full healthy season; the better. This 3rds string Center, in my opinion, does the most good of any single move.
That 'Big Man" advantage is where we will win.

The other two SG guards acquired in many ways.

PART 2 OF 4


Variables to consider befroe the trading begins....

A.....To Consider: ...If Luke Walton can be considered ineligible for the season,

we
get 2/3rds of his salary back to replace him, and he is not counted against our
roster. This gives us about 3.7 million. This would help if possible.

B....To consider: Pick up Shannon as a PG to provide leadership to the 3rd string.

Tempo change, taco time, young guns...

C....Do we pick up the rookies? I hope we will take them both.

D....How many players to carry this year...I am in favor of carry 15 (and Luke on

IR). Gives us trading options, youth, and 3 complete strings. 1st string

(offense/experience), 2nd string (defensive veterans), and third string (young

guns). Gives us many looks, many options.

PART 3 OF 4

Trading begins...!!

1st Move...Make sure we don't lose Shannon.. (wait if possible, but move)

2nd move ..Trade Sasha to Timberwolves (with a pick?). For A Guard (Dante west?)

and/or a Center (2nd String). Or any other player that Memphis would want. At

this point, even if we dont get Mark, we are still better off with any good 2nd

string center than with Sasha.

This is especially true if we can pick up a shooting Guard in Europe with the

'Luke exemption'.

3rd move.. Players from Timber wolves to Memphis (with 2011 1st round and 2012

second round picks?! ) for Mark Gasol.


4th Move [One or more of the following till 2 need guards aquired.

..... Pick/player to Portland for Rudy...or...
....... Euro League Guard with exception from Luke...or...
....... Rookie with promise (extra rookies to training camp)
........ Mid season trade (hold extra 'trade able' players

5th Move ......Hold 15 on roster this season (13 plus the rookies).
......More options mid season when the mid season trade run
for play offs begins.

PART 4 OF 4

My own Comments about strategy...

1. I know Theo is now our current 2nd string....and he is great(keeper). But

another center and will suck up 18 minutes a game ...and Bynum is that much fresher

for the play offs. Plus BYNUMS value to the team, confidence, trade value, and 3

peat, all hinge on him being healthy (otherwise cant even trade him) . We need 3

Centers this season. We have our defensive/veteran, lets go and get some young legs

to suck up minutes.

Of course we want him to resign for us. If Mark Gasol resigns for a few
years..after this next year. That will be huge. If we cant get him this year we

should be patient and get him next year when his contract is over...

2. If this move only got us Mark it was worth it. These picks, next years

actually, are useless for the Lakers. A team forging a 3 year championship run,

that already has 2 rookies(if they sign) can not place more rookies on the team.

At least till these two pan out, or are traded.

At the risk of being redundant.... :)

The miami gang will only hang together if they win either ONE of the next two.
Otherwise Riley is gonna start loosen 'top' players who came lookin for a ring. So

we should go all out in these next 2 years to build a MONSTAR!!

Go Lakers!!

Lakers should think about next years' acquisition. Carmelo Anthony!!!!

Sasha (way overpaid), Luke (way overpaid), & Brown are all expendable!!!

P.S. - plus, Mark Gasol ... that would be something 2 brothers in the same team.

Sasha has more potential than Shannon. He handles the ball better than Shannon. He is taller and stronger and can play 3 positions. Shannon is more out of control in the triangle. Shasha is a much better defender.

Tony Sassi

every time Sasha plays basketball he seems he's having a panic attack out there (with one exception--only when he is the free throw line). :)

Sasha was about to be clubbered by Kobe (remember that time he almost cost the time W during playoffs).... he just plays like a high school baller.

correction: Sasha was about to be clubbered by Kobe (remember that time he almost cost the team W during playoffs).... he just plays like a high school baller.

PART 1 of 2


I think the lure, to Mark Gasol, to win a championship with his brother will be

great. He is young enough that he can come here for a year or three..and still

start elsewhere. He is a starter everywhere else...so i realize that might be

what he wants. But he can get the rings first, and money second. How much would he

pay for the memories of winning championships with his Pau? A lot im gonna

guess...esp since he is young and can get the money later in his career.

However, i will accept any young Center (3rd string) for a one year contract to

suck up minutes from Drew and Theo. Saving them for the playoffs.

My bigger question is...Everyone thinks we need a guard for perimeter shooting.

That's good for us....but it will not make or break us. If Bynum goes down we are

SO SCREWED. So the next move is a young gun 2nd string center to suck up minutes.

Its worth both 2011 draft picks (esp if we keep both rookies).

Again...if we get a 'Luke IR exemption for this year we can find a great SG in

Europe without loosing draft picks.

PART 2 0F 2


If BYNUM does go down this coming year (God forbid), if we secured Mark Gasol this

year we can give him the starting job next year. Or platoon it like wewill this

year with PG and Steve Blake and Fish.

I think 3 peat swings on BYNUM's health.

Next piece... young 3rd string Center from Timberwolves for Sasha and a pick. If we

can trade up for a better Center after that (Gasol?) ...great...if not... a back up

shooting guard (sasha or otherwise) will not deny us a 3 peat. BYNUM goes down with

out a 3rd string...we will not 3 peat...and Bynum has little trade value next year.

Miami will be off an rolling if they win first year.

We can get another Center with trade with Sasha (if possible)....Or...
With the IR excemption from Luke not being able to play in 2011...

3rd string Center is the next piece!!!

I just wonder why of all the reserve, PJ put Sasha in the last seconds in the 7th games against Boston? I think this guy really has the nerve to take the shot under pressure. What if the venue was in Boston and same scenario, would PJ put Sasha or Brown ? Will Sasha be able to make those pressured FT? My best bet is he still can make both of them or perhaps even 1. I think the Lakers are willing to part ways with Sasha only because of his contract, but between Brown and he, I think Sasha suits well with the triangle, but hopefully we could still have them both.

and for Jimmy, even if he gets his ring with the Heat he will no longer fit to be called King James....coz he now belongs as the three Stooges...

Seriously? A Spurs troll? The Spurs are finished. They just cant accept it.


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