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Caught in the Web: Looking at how LeBron James' announcement affects the Lakers

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--The Times' Bill Plaschke takes LeBron James to task for having a one-hour special announcement.

--The Times' Lisa Dillman highlights the reactions regarding James' decision to go to Miami.

--The Times' Mark Heisler shares his amusement over the whole spectacle.

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan and Broderick Turner report that Vegas oddsmakers believe the Heat are the favorite to win the NBA title over the Lakers. Nonetheless, Bresnahan and Turner talk to a few Lakers who still believe they're the favorites to win.

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr lists several reasons why the Lakers will beat the Heat in the NBA Finals.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding argues that James' decision to join the Heat will help Kobe Bryant's MVP chances next season.

--The Miami Herald's Israel Gutierrez calls the Heat "instant contenders."

--The South Florida Sun-Sentinel's Dave Hyde believes that Miami will win several championships with James.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Andy Kamenetzky shares five thoughts on James heading to Miami and how it will affect the Lakers.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin argues that the super team has a long way to go before defeating the defending champs.

--Fox Sports' Charley Rosen believes that it's too early to proclaim the Heat the NBA title favorites.

--Sports Illustrated's Michael Rosenberg believes James' decision to go to Miami illustrates, among other things, that he lacks the "bull-headed determination of Kobe Bryant."

--The Daily News' Elliott Teaford reports that Derek Fisher's negotiations with the Lakers remain "ongoing."

--The Orange County Register's Mark Whicker ranks the teams that could give the Lakers the most trouble next season.

--Silver Screen and Roll's C.A. Clark jokingly blames the Lakers for what Miami did.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell talks about what Steve Blake will bring to the Lakers.

Tweet of the Day: "What team did lebron go to?" -- RONARTESTCOM (Lakers forward Ron Artest)

Reader Comment of the Day: "for Kobe & Co., the mission for the Lakers is to stealthily get through the regular season healthy. The "Decision" on Thursday should only help serve the motivation for a 3-peat. The Lakers have forged their weapons over the past few seasons to steel them to greater success and greater heights. Let all the attention focus on Miami. The rings and the trophies still belong in Los Angeles." -- Rick Friedman

-- Mark Medina
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Photo: During an interview on ESPN, NBA free agent LeBron James announced Thursday that he has decided to play for the Miami Heat. Credit: Larry Busacca / Getty Images for Estabrook Group

 
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Three sidekicks and no leader, maybe they need KOBE to join them! Like in team USA, they will need a closer.

IT’S ALL ABOUT THE LAKERS !!!
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Talk all you want about Miami, New York, and Chicago, the truth is that NBA free agency 2010 was really all about the Lakers and the moves various teams and players are making to prevent them from winning next year. In a definitive attempt to dethrone the Lakers, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh have admitted that the only way they can beat the Lakers is by joining together to create a super fantasy team in Miami.
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The ultimate irony is that even with James, Wade, and Bosh, the Miami Heat still will not have the firepower, especially in the front court, to take down the Lakers. Unless the Big 3 are willing to accept substantially less than max contracts to allow the team to sign additional players, Miami is going to struggle to develop the role players and roster depth to enable the Heat to compete at a championship level much less beat the Lakers.
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One of the most interesting and ignored stats presented by ESPN last night was their prediction that the Heat with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh would post a 66-16 record next season but would still only have a 35% chance of winning the NBA championship. Make no mistake, once the dust settles and Miami’s full roster takes shape, most NBA analysts are still going to declare the Los Angeles Lakers as the favorite to win the 2011 title.
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It’s interesting to me that nobody seems to think that chemistry is going to be a problem at all for the Super 3. Nobody is worried that LeBron and Dwayne will have difficulties sharing the ball even though both have played their entire careers dominating the ball. Similarly, nobody is worried that Chris Bosh and whatever scrub at center the Heat come up with are going to be able to deal with the Lakers Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol.
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Imagine how frustrating it’s going to be for LeBron James when he again fails to win an NBA championship, this time with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh as teammates. Imagine the glee in Cleveland , New York, and Chicago, if the Heat can’t even get out of the East. Imagine how moot and meaningless all of those regular season MVP awards are going to be when Kobe and the Lakers hang up their 17th championship banner.
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Bottom line, LeBron blinked. I thought he looked harried and hounded and almost unsure of himself on ESPN, more like the befuddled player who quit on his team during the playoffs than the brash confident super star whom many analysts had erroneously and prematurely crowned as the single greatest player in the game today. It was like LeBron suddenly panicked and lost the confidence that he could win a championship on his own.
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TOM

I'm a Celtics fan since the 80's and I now officially found a team to hate more than the Lakers: Miami Heat. I don't think the Celtics are a serious contender next year, if the Heat actually make it to the finals, then I'll be a Lakers fan for a series. Am I really saying this??

All the Kings horses & all the Kings men...still ain't enough to stop the Lakers from a 17th championship win!

The Big 3

The Boston Big 3 played D. It not only rhymes, it matters. More than that, there was a clear balance of power, big to small, shooter, to closer.

But, I'm sorry, I'm talking basketball and this has nothing to do with that. This is about every night in the NBA turning into a Globetrotter game with the rest of the league in the role of the Generals. This makes our old pal Pat, winner of the "free throw" ring in Miami, as slick as his hair.

This is bad for the NBA. Bad for the show. Bad for the game. Will they be fun to hate? Did ya have to ask?

One thing is clear, the Lakers just picked up millions of NEW NBA fans united in their desire to see Miami go down.

btw, isn't Miami part of Cuba? Timely, the cold war is heatin' back up.

LakerTom,

That was some post. Great stuff. I couldn't agree more.

Here's something else that's pretty obvious now. LeBron has conceded no matter how many titles he wins(big IF)with the Heat, he will be second to DWade in terms of always being one title short of DWade. In other words, no matter how you slice it, LeBron will never be looked at as being the man because DWade has already won a title without him and if they stay together will always be one up on the self proclaimed king.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vers. 2.0
Darth Stern has formed his SuperTeam, To defeat The Champion LA Lakers is his Scheme
Princess Jimmy, Dwade & Bosh were drafted, To form this SuperTeam Darth Stern crafted
Miami is the the SuperTeams new base, But they built this team in too much haste
Darth stern built it but failed to see, Sure they can score but can they play some “D”
If you think this is enough to take the Lakers throne, The Freakin Lakers say BRING IT ON!!!
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Jimmy there’s no denying you have some skills, But when you gone take off those training Wheels
You been a King in training for 8 long years, Yet the end of every season finds you in Tears
Not one Ring do you have to your name, When you don’t win on someone else you lay blame
Do you Fools know who you dealing with, We the Freakin Champion Lakers & we don’t take no SPIT
You can’t beat the Lakers with a Dance or a Song, We’re here and waiting for U to BRING IT ON!!!
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Don’t think cause Darth Stern owns the Referees, That winning the Title will be just a Breeze
Know what a Black Mamba is Princess girl, It’s the deadliest animal in the entire world
Don’t you kjmow this is Kobe’s nickname, Cause he’s the deadliest BBaller in the entire Game
Lebron believe me, You aint ready for this, You can’t beat Kobe and God is My Witness
To go against Kobe your ISH better be Strong, If you think you got the stones then BRING IT ON!
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Don’t let Darth Stern make you look like a Fool, Even though you are a Darth Stern Tool.
Lebron you use to be such a nice young man, So this Princess Jimmy act I don’t understand
Last night it look like you began to worry, You made your decision in too much hurry
Is it finally beginning to dawn on you, Kobe will always be the best no matter what you do
If you think you’re ready to take the Lakers Crown, Then Come on with it, BRING IT ON
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Aloha

I was listening to the 3 myEgo's talking about how guys will come there and to take less for a chance at a ring. But who are these guys? First there are not that many strong players left unsigned and if you have game are you going to pass on say 8 mil for half the MLE? Mike Miller passed up the whole MLE with the Lakers. Yes he wants to win but money is money. You might see a few old dogs do it but how much are they really giving up?

As for next year, if healthy, the Heat still will not be able to match up with the Lakers. There isn't any quality bigs out there to add at what they will have to spend. Bosh while a nice player isn't that tough inside presence one needs to win.

And as far as James, do you think Kobe or MJ would have joined a team to be possibly the SECOND guy? James really blew it, if he needed to leave it should have been to Chicago. He still would have been the man there. Now if he wins it will be because they are now expected to. And if they don't? Man, that would really complete his fall from grace.

MH

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17861/dan-gilberts-disastrous-letter

I couldn't agree more with this. Dan Gilbert is also one who showed no class here. After seeing that letter, I don't blame Lebron one bit for leaving. Who would want to work under a guy like that. Dan Gilbert is fake, he never kept it real with Lebron. If he had those thoughts all along, why couldn't he say them to Lebron personally? If Lebron gave up during the playoffs, why didn't Gilbert call him out on it?

Gilbert chose to be fake with Lebron in an attempt to keep him a Cavalier. Fakeness comes with consequences. Once the fake precedent is set, everything becomes fake. At that point, it doesn't matter what Gilbert says to Lebron, Lebron has no reason to believe that anything he says is true. Unfortunately for the Cavs and their fans, the rest of the NBA saw that letter as well. We're looking at a couple decades of nothing from the Cavs with Dan Gilbert in charge. The sooner the Cavs get rid of Dan Gilbert, the better off that franchise will be.

Go Lakers!

HONEST OPINION! taking aside being a Lakerfan.


2011

Lakers 1, Boston 2, Heat 3, Bulls 4, Magic 5, Thunder 6, Mavs 7.


2012


Heat 1, Lakers 2 (no Phil Jackson), Thunder 3, Bulls 4


2013, 2014, 2015

Heat 1, Thunder2, Lakers 3 (too old),

Lebron's decision is correct, it is his best chance to win multiple rings in the next five years. Their unification means they are not worried about individual accolades, max contract and legacies, but just winning championships. A group of friends who wants to play together to be better and have the best team in NBA while having fun! It is about the team winning rings. I do not think anybody could dislike that in players's way of thinking. If any it should be respected.


If you hate Lebron, it only means you misssed out on him for your team and somhow you are sour grapes, and lot of people and NBA teams are feeling this way right now.


I don't.


Lakers had Kobe and Odom, when Bynum showed brilliance in 07 before the 1st injury, I was excited, then Gasol came, Lakers are unbeatble once Bynum comes back, then Ron Artets came in for cheap, Lakers are great, I can't ask for more.


While, the whole NBA world thinks it is unfair. I enjoyed it anyways. In the same token the Miami Heat fans are going to enjoy it the next five years.


Hey Laker Family !!

PHRED,JUSTA,JONK,MARK_G,NEMAIA,RIDING,RICK_F,MAMBA24,MAGIC PHIL,KB BLITZ, FATTYPLG, EJK, FAITH, WES, JOE_CONRAD, HOBBIT ,ART,LAKERTOM,TROY,OUCCHH

Hope everyone is doing great ! :) Here are a couple thoughts I wanted to share with you guys -

The Heat are without a doubt instant contenders now (more so with the addition of an adept 3 point shooter in Mike Miller) but only on paper.It remains to be seen whether the Heat's newly anointed "Big Three" can get some synergy going and forge a formidable alliance on the court.
The role players surrounding them obviously have a subtler part to play but their significance to championship teams can hardly be overstated.
Getting them to fit snugly into a winning equation while Lebron and Wade try to establish whose team it should/would be...might take a lot of doing.They seem to get along well and could very well soon figure out how to let the team be bigger than either of them, read the pulse of a game and know when to take a backseat without letting their egos get the best of them but it is far from a certainty.Limelight isn't the easiest of things for people to share.

However this plays out, one thing is for sure - For all the negativity surrounding Lebron's often preposterous show of the last few weeks, his decision might turn out to be good for basketball fans ( except Cavs fans of course..who are bound to feel cheated/heart broken..and rightly so).It sure has to potential to make for a challenging and really exciting 2010-11 season.

One parting thought - Lebron and his bloated ego have no option but to succeed ASAP ..say...in the next couple of seasons because ,despite all his talent, if this latest move of his fizzles out...he just might run out of options find himself robbed of a place amongst the greatest of all time.

Amit

Hey Laker Family !!

PHRED,JUSTA,JONK,MARK_G,NEMAIA,RIDING,RICK_F,MAMBA24,MAGIC PHIL,KB BLITZ, FATTYPLG, EJK, FAITH, WES, JOE_CONRAD, HOBBIT ,ART,LAKERTOM,TROY,OUCCHH

Hope everyone is doing great ! :) Here are a couple thoughts I wanted to share with you guys -

The Heat are without a doubt instant contenders now (more so with the addition of an adept 3 point shooter in Mike Miller) but only on paper.It remains to be seen whether the Heat's newly anointed "Big Three" can get some synergy going and forge a formidable alliance on the court.
The role players surrounding them obviously have a subtler part to play but their significance to championship teams can hardly be overstated.
Getting them to fit snugly into a winning equation while Lebron and Wade try to establish whose team it should/would be...might take a lot of doing.They seem to get along well and could very well soon figure out how to let the team be bigger than either of them, read the pulse of a game and know when to take a backseat without letting their egos get the best of them but it is far from a certainty.Limelight isn't the easiest of things for people to share.

However this plays out, one thing is for sure - For all the negativity surrounding Lebron's often preposterous show of the last few weeks, his decision might turn out to be good for basketball fans ( except Cavs fans of course..who are bound to feel cheated/heart broken..and rightly so).It sure has to potential to make for a challenging and really exciting 2010-11 season.

One parting thought - Lebron and his bloated ego have no option but to succeed ASAP ..say...in the next couple of seasons because ,despite all his talent, if this latest move of his fizzles out...he just might run out of options find himself robbed of a place amongst the greatest of all time.

Amit

LakerTom,

Good points all around. That circus last night made me regret ever wanting this clown in a Laker uniform.

Bottom line, if Drew develops into the player you think he will become, I don't think Miami stands a chance against us.

What LeBron did to his (Ex)Fans last night was like me taking my girfriend of 7 years to my favorite sports STADIUM/arena and at Halftime tell her I'm going to use the restroom and after I've left:

"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'LL PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE JUMBO TRON."

Then seeing my face on the Screen:

"Babe, we've been together now for seven great years and you have shown me an awesome amount of support and loyalty, you've made me feel like a "King", so I think it's only right that I repay you for all that you've done. I know that we're great together...

(Pause for effect)

"BUT... I don't feel that I can be happy with you anymore so I've decided to leave you for Dee Dee and Christy, you know, the two hot Strippers that live down the block. They promised me that all my fantasies will come true... So, um, that's all... Good Luck with the rest of your life."

At least with Riley, Lebron has someone who will tell him the truth and keep things real. Whether it's good or bad.

Go Lakers!

MM,

Could you please delete the duplicate post ? I mistakenly posted with my sis's ID which was saved on her computer.

Thanks

Amit

The good is that this will (hopefully) get management off their duffs in this offseason. I'm sorry but Blake is at BEST a push with Farmar & he's older with tapped upside. Maybe now the Lakers start taking risks (Tmac or AI on the bench???!!!)... sadly, there's not much the Lakers can do without shaking stuff up big.

More Good: The greatest enemy to a champion is their own complacency. Pat Riley understood this more than anyone else when he made the guarantee. The powerhouse just slapped complacency silly and only 2 weeks after it settled in.

Semi Good: Yep, more Laker fans hoping to take out the monster team, but fans only do so much. Lakers need an entire arena in Miami to cheer for them to really make this a factor (therefore, it's a non factor)

The Miserably Ugly Bad: The Big 3 cost the Lakers a banner. Don't get this confused because the Lakers should have already threepeated, but McHale & Clay Bennett of OKC conspired with Ainge to take what would have been a title from us. Though Miami was a choice of the players involved, make no mistake that the team just formed is much more powerful in both substance and duration than the big three (1 & done). I don't see how it does not cost us at least another banner (and probably multiple titles)... but we can hope.

Bynum, get off your butt. We need you to turn into Wilt asap.

Ron Ron, get off twitter. We need you to turn into Reggie Miller.

The NBA once saw a super team assembled. They won 33 straight games and lifted a title curse.

What will happen this time??

@LAKERTOM, Do I have to say it? Yes I do thats how good it was...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!
MAMBA24/larry

And just because I know there will be replies, I'm not necessarily in favor of Tmac or AI. I'm actually in favor of getting Tony Parker next offseason - I think the Spurs are done and his wife works in Los Angeles... he'd be perfect for the Lakers if there's a way to do it.

If the Lakers find a way to win a third straight, the media may finally give PJ, Kobe, and the Lakers their due.

Lakers underdog champions. Wow, 2 weeks from winning it all and they're underdogs... crazy

My only consolation for having watched last night's disgraceful spectacle, is to know I was not alone. Neither were you, it turns out. The ratings are in:

http://bit.ly/b5LrMK

I still hate myself for having watched. Millions hate LeBron for having watched. ESPN has no shame for having delivered the spectacle. And the sponsors who coughed-up big bucks for the Boys & Girls' Club got their moneys worth.

The road to the title still goes through Staples Center.

That is all.

DBDH!

I naively thought before Lebron's announcement that there was no way that Lebron could host an hour long special and not pick Cleveland. There was no way that someone, who was supposedly as loyal as they come, could be so cruel and heartless. To dump the Cavs on national TV in a scripted, pre-meditated charade, when he KNEW ALL ALONG that he was gong to be in Miami was disgusting. What he did to the Cavs and their fans was sports at its worst.

Michael H

Wiki Wiki!!!

MM - Awesome couple posts.

I have a suggestion - how about a Ron Artest tweet of the day? Then you can add another category for all the rest of the Tweet peeps. One of RonRon's are a virtual lock every day for the honor. And they keep us all laughing anyhow.

Cheers! PLG

MORE HONEST OPINIONS...


I enjoyed watching Jordan/Pippen/Grant, I sure am not going to missed out on enjoying Wade/Lebron/Bosh! Do I want the Lakers to beat this guys, SURE! Ofcourse. Lakers are still #1 priority.


But I am a basketball fan, too.


Seriuosly, I hope Lakers find the next great Coach after PJ and KOBE,PAU,ARTEST,ODOM never ages so Lakers can continue to win and defeat the MIAMI HEAT THREE, FOUR, FIVE years from now.


Here's a better write-through on the ratings:

http://bit.ly/c064Ol

Interesting side note: Fewer people watched LeBron on the web than watched Lindsay Lohan's day in court on TMZ.com.

The NBA once saw a super team assembled. They won 33 straight games and lifted a title curse. What will happen this time?? Posted by: Tim-4-Show | July 09, 2010 at 10:23 AM

I hate to say this but The NBA once saw a super team assembled They had (4) future hall of Famers. What did happen that time is they lost to a lowly detroit team that barely qualified for the playoffs in 5 games. Take your pick of examples both Lakers Team. To quote a "Lunatic" ANYTHING POSSIBLE! :-)
mamba24/larrY

I love AK's take on this:

" For the first time in NBA history, Shaquille O'Neal will leave a team on better terms than an ex-teammate."

LeB***** stopped returning the Cleveland Cavaliers text messages over a month ago & then he had his business partner tell the owner that he was moving on. If this dude isn't a punk B@@@@ then I don't know what "a stand up type of guy" really means.

CURIOUS IS THIS THE LA GUY or do we know who this laker blogger is ? See below:

Man sentenced for Lakers victory disturbance

A Lakers fan accused of inciting a riot during last month's celebration of the team's basketball championship has been sentenced to nine months behind bars.

Steve Quintanilla, 22, pleaded no contest. He got 90 days in jail and six months in state prison for violating probation from a previous grand theft conviction.

He also must stay away from Staples Center - the Lakers' home court - during a year's probation.

Prosecutors say Quintanilla burned a Boston Celtics jersey and incited rioting June 17 outside Staples after the Lakers' NBA victory.

Forty-five people were arrested for setting fires, trashing cars, throwing things and smashing windows.

City attorney's spokesman Frank Mateljan says 10 have been charged with crimes.

DIDN'T MAMBA24 SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE TIME OFF FROM LAKERS BLOG?

CURIOUS IF BELOW IS THE REASON:

THIS WAS DURING THE TITLE CELEBRATIONS

Forty-five people were arrested for setting fires, trashing cars, throwing things and smashing windows.

City attorney's spokesman Frank Mateljan says 10 have been charged with crimes.

This is what I say- If Kobe, Fish, Pau, Lamar, Ron, Phil and the rest of the Lakers can beat this new "uber-team" then they will truly go down as the greatest team with the greatest run ever in my opinion. Over the years, starting with the acquisition of Kobe, Phil, Shaq, Fish, until present, this team has beat everyone that stood in their way over many years... The Spurs several times in their Duncan prime, Iverson's Sixers, Reggie Miller's Pacers, the Chris Webber Kings, those great Blazer teams with Rasheed Wallace & Sabonis, Pippen. Many incarnations of the Suns over the decade did not stand up. I could also recollect the Jason Kidd Nets, Yao Ming's Rockets, Steve Nash on a couple teams, Novitzki, and so on... The Lakers are also 1 of 2 so far against the Celtics big 3. Over the decade, these Lakers have chased the likes of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Joe Johnson, Jermaine O'neal, Hedo Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, Shawn Marion(but he's now in W), & Brad Miller out to the East. Last year it was Shaq,... again! This year it was 5? time Alll-Star Amare Stoudamire and 2x star Carlos Boozer out eastward. Maybe others like Carmello will do the same and move East or team up with other All-Stars to escape the Lakers, and there are rumors of Chris Paul and Tony Parker circulating eastbound as well. The one and only team that has got over on the Lakers recently was the Piston team in '04 that caused the premature break-up after the first 3-peat. But when they broke up too, LA has continued to torment their only 2 real remaining parts in Rasheed Wallace (Bos) & Chauncey Billups on Denver.

The years when the Lakers were down and rebuilding ('05-'07), the Heat and Cavs were pretty good (without the Lakers around). The Cavs with Lebron made it to the Finals, but were swept by Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili's Spurs. Wade did lead the Heat one year '06 over the Mavs, but they were only good for Shaq's last stand (where he was actually a benefit to the team for more then 5 minutes), where I will speculate that since the Mavs upset the Spurs and Suns, and the Mavs having no big-man to challenge Shaq, were out-sized, and really had no Finals experience themselves. The Shaqless Heat were swept out of the playoffs the following year. The Lakers, upon their revival the last couple of years have been able to prove themselves against these top West teams for 2 more championships, jumping over everyone in the West including those the Spurs, Suns and Mavs anually.

In these last 10 or so years, the Lakers have never got their full chance to dance with either Wade or Lebron who are widely considered 2 of the top 3 players in the league during the Lakers runs this decade. The reason these "top two of three" did not get there "by themselves", we have already witnessed over and over. What remains to be seen is who the true #1 of this so-called pack of 3. If history has shown us anything, I would put my faith in the guy and the team that has decidedly beat every other team in their way for the last 10 years. Will this tarnish Lebron or Wades legacy? That is yet to be determined, but one who's resume it will certainly bolster is one Kobe Bryant as the leader and stand out of the proud Laker franchise, should they be able to continue their winning ways. As a side note, unless Shaq goes to a competitive team, this current Laker team will not be able to test themselves against their former teammate whom has yet to declare his current East coast bias. Oh, and remember, Riley is an ex-Laker too. I say BRING IT ON!!! When the Lakers win banner #17, they will be tied for the all time lead with Boston Celtics, Kobe will have 6, tying Jordan, and the so-called "top two of three", despite teaming up, will not be able to stop the most powerful and relentless force in all of pro sports, that which is The Los Angeles Lakers. And yet, all of this will not even measure up to the imminent march toward #18 and the all time record...

Staples 24,

>>>2011
>>>Lakers 1, Boston 2, Heat 3, Bulls 4, Magic 5, Thunder 6, Mavs 7.
>>>2012
>>>Heat 1, Lakers 2 (no Phil Jackson), Thunder 3, Bulls 4
>>>...

I see where you're going, but other than the 2011 pecking order, I don't entirely agree. For two main reasons.

First, we don't know what free agents any of those teams will add between now and those future seasons. Certainly, Miami will be spending their full MLE the next couple of seasons to add a piece or two, and they might even pick up a vet or two willing to play for the minimum.

But the Lakers also have the opportunity to add free agents. Lakers have Kobe, Pau, Bynum, Lamar, Artest, and Blake locked in for the next three seasons (or they could possibly trade one of Lamar or Bynum or Blake if they felt the need to re-tool). And they'll have an MLE and a BiAnnual to offer next summer. So while Miami will improve, the Lakers might also improve (scary as that sounds to the rest of the league).

And then there's the Celtic-Laker factor.

Remember the 60's? Lakers put together the biggest super-trio in NBA history to that point: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlain. Three of the top 50 in the history of the league. Perhaps a better big 3 than Miami just assembled.

Yet the Celtics, who had a better overall TEAM, beat them repeatedly in the finals for several years. Eventually that Lakers group (minus Baylor) won a ring, but it took awhile.

It wouldn't shock me at all to see this Lakers team do the same thing to that Miami team. Meet them in the finals 5 of the next 6 years or something, and just keep beating and beating and beating them. If Bynum could stay healthy, then Kobe-Pau-Bynum is every bit as talented as LeBron-Wade-Bosh, and they could stay one step ahead of them for a few seasons. Bynum is the key. If he stays healthy and keeps improving, Miami has no answer for him, and the Lakers would own the Heat. If Bynum continues to get injured and play at half-level for the playoffs, then the Lakers are more vulnerable, but still a formidable opponent for the new big 3.

But again, I think it'll take a year or two before Miami even gets past Orlando or Boston to MAKE the finals.

I think we may see another Lakers-Boston final next season.

LakerTom - nice perceptions.
UTZ - awesome - you need to keep that one handy for use throughout the season.

Staples24 - you are making static assumptions. The Lakers never get complacent. LO could very well be gone soon or early in the season. And blasphemy alert: if AB17 gets injured or doesn't kill it - he will be gone. The experiment will be over. At some point Dr. Buss will step in and tell little Jimmy - you made a rookie mistake.

If anything, the Lakers have continued to show they will invest and pay (lux tax) where duly warranted. The consistency and now predicability of Lakers FO is very clear to me. They have a five year plan, they are patient and ultra strategic. When we got Pau, there is no doubt it was with an eye toward countering this very Summer of 2010 madness.

The Sheat (that's my not so nice new nickname for them) will now be hamstrung for a long time and something will crack. The first 3+ game losing streak to hit that team will bring about a coaching mutiny. That will be the BSPN headline.

I love the LAKERS! Dr. Buss is a master conductor!

Cheers - PLG

Tim4Show

How are you? Go Figure, we are the underdogs now...

The new big 3 had great chemistry in the Olympics. They will be lethal for years to come, including this season. With Wade and Lebron in the lineup, the Heat do not need a true PG. Their lineup might look like this:

PG - Wade, Chalmers
SG - Mike Miller, Raja Bell
SF - Lebron,
PF - Bosh, Haslem
C - Joel Anthony,

If they sign a few more players, including a center, along with their two second round picks, this lineup is set. What's even more frightening is they will most likely continue to improve their roster at the trade deadline.

Bynum will HAVE TO BE HEALTHY against this team, and the Lakers will need to continue to upgrade their roster to keep up. As of now, the Lakers do not have a big 3, they have a big 2 (Kobe and Pau). Until Bynum gets consistently healthy, or he is traded for someone healthy, the Lakers will never have a big 3. I am hoping the Lakers make a big move next summer, or at the trade deadline. Chris Paul anyone?

Staples24,

>>>Lebron's decision is correct, it is his best chance to win multiple rings in the
>>> next five years

Not sure I agree with that either.

I think LeBron's best chance would have been if he could have gone to Chicago and persuaded either Wade or Bosh to join him there (or even Boozer wouldn't be too bad).

The advantage to Chicago is that they've already got an All-Star point guard and a quality center in place (excellent defender, so-so offensive player). Either of these lineups would be better than what Miami will have next year:

Noah-Bosh-James-whoever-Rose or
Noah-Gibson-James-Wade-Rose

Remember, Chicago nearly beat the Celtics last year WITHOUT LeBron or Wade. Adding two superstars or one superstar and an All-Star to Chicago would have pushed them ahead of Boston in the East.

Not to mention the fact that they'd have Thibodeau as their coach - the guy who taught Boston their league leading defense.

Miami is a very good choice for him. But I think Chicago would have been ready to win titles sooner.

CURIOUS IF:

Pat Riley and current heat coach are secret lovers

Lebron James and Chris Bosh are a couple

Never know

LakerTom: My impression is that James will be happy to turn over primary ball handling responsibilities to Wade.

Like Kobe, James has never had anyone who could pass him the ball, never anyone who could organize the offense, so he had to do it himself.

I'm pretty sure James will content to score like never before, being able to move without the ball and feel confident he will get it back in a position to score.

And Wade has never had a finisher like James to pass to. I'm sure he will be happy racking up the assists.

Neither one of them can be guarded one on one, and both are equally capable of creating their own shot, passing to others and finishing. I don't think any team has ever had two players like this whose ball-handling and scoring skills were both so strong. This will make them especially difficult to defend, since the offense can be initiated and the defense attacked from alternate points.

It will probably take them some time to figure it out. In fact, I would guess that at the start they will be overly deferential to one another. The fact that the entire team (except for Wade) will be new means that they won't have a clear identity for months. And it's not clear what the talent level on the team will be after the top three.

But they will figure it out, and when they do they will be difficult to defend.

Tim-4-Show

>>>And just because I know there will be replies, I'm not necessarily in favor of
>>> Tmac or AI. I'm actually in favor of getting Tony Parker next offseason - I
>>> think the Spurs are done and his wife works in Los Angeles... he'd be perfect
>>> for the Lakers if there's a way to do it.

My thoughts on all of those thoughts -

If either Tmac or AI is willing to play for a contract starting at 1.8 million, I'd be happy to have them. Either one would add some serious scoring punch off the bench. Seriously, if you could start Blake and give AI Jordan Farmar's minutes (and Shannon Brown's for that matter), who here doesn't think that's an improvement?

And if Tmac or AI didn't work out, for 1.8 million, who cares? You could trade them off mid-season for someone who does nothing bud defend well (Tony Allen? Ronnie Brewer?)

As for Tony Parker, I like him too, but he doesn't fit the triangle. If the Lakers are abandoning the triangle next season and going to more showtime offense and more pick & roll, then sure that works. But if Shaw is taking over and continuing to run the triangle, then Parker's not the best choice.

Also, New York might still be looking for a point guard next summer, and they'll have a lot more than the MLE to spend, which would be the max the Lakers could spend.

Good riddance, LA Guy. Take your foul mouth and go home.

Does anybody know how much each Laker player earned in playoff bonuses? I seem to recall that players got paid bonuses for playing in playoff games.

Also, what is going on with the negotiations, if any, with Shannon Brown. My take is that there is little interest among the other NBA teams.

@wes "It was like dad having a 60 min party to announce he's bailing on the family for the babysitter."

That Should Be The Reader Comment of the Day!!!!!

Outstanding Observation!

The Only Thing Missing is a Small Boy from Cleveland saying: "Say it isn't so, Bron! Say it isn't so!"

He's Gone From Role Model to Pathetic in 60 Minutes...
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

HERE'S TO A "CLASS ACT"!!!!!! HERE'S TO KOBE BEAN BRYANT!!!!!!

Amazingly, All of the So-Called Basketball Gurus are talking about the need to surround Wade, Bosh & Princess Jimmy with Stand-Still Shooters.

From Chris Webber-Bread to Skip "Brainless" Bayless, their acting like scoring wins championships.

If that were true, the Golden State Warriors and Phoenix Suns would've held up the Larry O'Brien Trophy the past 5-6 years.

If that were true, the Dallas Mavericks would've won the championship against Miami.

They traded Beasley and supposedly signed Miller, but they better get some defenders (including a few solid big men) or Princess Jimmy will be "Gone Fishin'" again and again and again...

To Borrow from "Wayne's World":

Scoring Will Win Championships "When Monkeys Fly Outta My Butt!!!!!!"
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TO THE PUNDITS: FIRST YOU ANOINTED HIM THE "SELF-PROCLAIMED" KING AND NOW MIAMI AS THE NEXT DYNASTY (CHAMPS FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS).

ALL I CAN SAY IS: THANKS.

CAN'T WAIT!!! AS IF KOBE AND CO. DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INSPIRATION TO THREE-PEAT FOR PHIL, THEY NOW HAVE THE PUNDITS TO THANK FOR A PLETHORA OF CHALKBOARD MOTIVATION!!!!!!
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

HERE'S TO A CLASS ACT!!!!!! HERE'S TO KOBE BEAN BRYANT!!!!!!

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Word From The Eastern Front:


So, I've been in contact with multiple people in Cleveland and they are all devastated. They feel so betrayed. Fellow denizens of Laker Nation, you've got to understand, their dedication to LeCreep was unlike anything you've ever experienced before. There were HUGE banners all over Downtown Cleveland covering their skyscrapers. It is not a stretch to say that Downtown Cleveland had been transformed into a giant communal shrine to this guy. I have never seen a community so wholesale dedicated to a SINGLE ATHLETE (NOT A TEAM, A SINGLE ATHLETE!)


They literally could not have given him more support.


But when you ask the little details about LeCreep--the legal issues with his mother, him acting like an immature narcissist, him being cheap, him having weird interpersonal problems with women... all these things that imply on a personal level this guy could be a low quality human being, all these things come up... but Cleveland swept them under the rug.


Not with the paparazzi in South Beach. It's a different game there. Miami isn't even a basketball town. LeCreep left a town that was wholesale committed to protecting him. Not anymore.


Things go downhill from here.


He's not winning a ring.


That's what WE do. Not him.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!


LAkertom,


"It’s interesting to me that nobody seems to think that chemistry is going to be a problem at all for the Super 3. Nobody is worried that LeBron and Dwayne will have difficulties sharing the ball even though both have played their entire careers dominating the ball."


Three words for you Tom, KG/PIERCE/ALLLEN !!!


Wade/Lebron/Bosh are all fairly young veteran superstars. It may not be this year, but 2012,2013,2014,2015, when the Celtics are long gone, Lakers new oldies with no Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher will have to chase these PRIMED SUPERSTARS.


If Ainge/KG/Pierce/Allen in their 30's can do it, I mean Riley/Wade/Lebron/Bosh has a lot of time to put a team together and they will.


For Lebron to go to Wade county, that says a lot. He is about a strong team, not Indivual who wants to be a hero by himself.


The thing I do not like about Lebron is what DAN GILBERT is is venting about Lebron. Quiting on your teammates, that's not good at all. But leaving the Cavs for a better team, I do not have a problem with it.


Imagine, if you work in a company when you always have to work the hardest because you are the only most reliable employee. Then you get a chance to be recruited, where you have friends already in place thatt works and performs as well as you do, a relief on your part. Would you not take it?


Even Kobe wanted to bolt out of LA, until BYNUM's brilliance came into fruition. Kobe said, with Bynum we are a championship team. Even Kobe needed help, why not Lebron?


It's crazy, but this is the part of the story where Lakers and Celtics fans find a commonality in their hatred for LeCreep and the Heat.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Kobe has BYNUM and GASOL, it is fair for Lebron to have Wade and Bosh. No problem at all.


I think the next three years would be very interesting before the Lakers get too old.

MM, Can you ban DBDH. His multiple, multiple posts are very annoying.
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GO LAKERS!!!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE-PEAT SQUARED!!!!!!

HERE'S TO A CLASS ACT!!!!!! HERE'S TO KOBE BEAN BRYANT!!!!!!

Rocky,


You've got to understand, man, Dan Gilbert bent over backwards for LeBron James. You would know this unless you were an insider in Cleveland where everything is understood with a nod and a wink.


Dan Gilbert did not hesitate to spend money in order to keep LeBron James.


Dan Gilbert literally allowed LeBron James to play the role of assistant coach and assistant GM with the Cavs. LeBron was allowed to have his fingers in EVERYTHING.


Dan Gilbert just lost $200 million when LeBron chose Miami after EVERYTHING he had done for LeCreep.


I'd be raving pissed too.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Kobe would never run to another superstars team. He is the Alpha male, top dog if you will. LeBitch just proved that he is nothing but the best Robin to ever play the game. Add to that that this is in NO WAY a good move for the NBA. Would be fans already complain about this being a superstars league now you have 3 max contract players on the same team. This is like us trading for Brandon Roy and making him our PG.

PAT RILEY NEW DYANSTY MIAMI HEAT vs TRIANGLE PHIL JACKSON LAKERS PRESENT DYNASTY..


Phil Jackson should coach for three more years and Pat Riley should come back to coach again.


This will give three years of LAKERS vs MIAMI showdown. Triangle vs fastbreak!

Can you imagine how many calls both DWade and LeSecond will get? Now that's a scary thought.

Laker Tom,

I think you mentioned something about chemistry on the Heat, an important point.

I think the Lakers have it.


Spears from Yahoo sports mentioned:

"Phoenix Suns coach Alvin Gentry was just happy James, Wade and Bosh remained in the East. He thinks the Heat should be considered favorites to advance to the NBA Finals – with one caveat.

“Chemistry,” Gentry said, “can be a strange thing.”

Remeber, Kobe wanted to leave only if the team executives did not improve the team. He was as adament about change as he is about taking over a game. During that time everyone in LA wanted to know what the heck was Mitch doing, also pointing out that he was no Jerry West. He had not drafted any players that the Lakers could mold or improve the team. Kobe did not want to be on a team that did not give him the opportunity to compete; to win. Finally, he waited and was reqarded with Pau; then Bynum started to show signs of life and now we have 2 more rings. However, most of you so call fans critized Kobe about the way he went about it, and some even booed him here at Staples Center. ALl awhile forgetting he had already help brought them 3 championships. But he stayed focused. He was vilified by the local writers and talk show host, yet he stayed focus on one thing, winning. Now he has help to raise 5 banners at Staples center, just as Magic raised 5 at the Forum.

With LeBron and Wade teaming up, Lakers need to sign another perimeter defender like Raja Bell. Ron Artest can only guard one of them. Kobe can't afford to get into foul trouble. Lamar can't guard either of them.

Hey guys we got a new post up

MM

SHOWTIME vs Triangle!

Pat Riley first instruction as HEAD COACH, put Lebron James as the Point Guard of the MIAMI HEAT ala Magic Johnson!

Next order, find an aging Center, who can still deliver the goods like KAREEM-ABDUL JABBAR in his 40. Shaq anyone, Big Z!

Their challenge is to find a James Worthy type who can RUN and Finish well.

Wade is better than Cooper and Scott combine.

Lakers does not have to do anything but to WAIT for them build their roster.

lebron, wade and bosh???? those guys couldn't even beat Greece at the world championships in '06.

What makes you think they can beat the Lakers or even get out of the East?

I think Boston has one more run left in them and depending on what Chicago does with their jilted money (mike miller perhaps?), they are also dangerous.

Good Friday Everyone...

Well it looks like the 'King' is taking a huge hit on his image...How much is his 'brand' worth today...

1. James is showing he is not Kobe, MJ, Magic, or Bird...I agree, that's what makes those guys great...They were proven leaders and winners...They got to the promised land in their own vehicles, not hitching a ride in a one with more options...

2. This whole new Big 3 was formed 2 years ago in the Olympics...They should give more credit to the BB world, that we wouldn't see that...

3. James behavior in the Boston series was a prelude to him leaving...I believe he did throw those games in a way. The 'King' thought this was a way he could justify his leaving...

4. People who immediately made the Heat finals favorites because of the new Big 3 are ignorant...

5. I still think the Lakers will win 2011, and I don't think the Heat will make it out of the second round...

6. Today I thank God for Kobe, Mitch, Dr. Buss, Phil Jackson, Pau, Bynum, Artest, LO and the rest of our roster, and the Lakers organization...Today I realized how fortunate we are...

M&M
Any updates/rumors on Farmar or Shan-Wow?

Colorado loves our World Champion Lakers!

Big men win championships. As far as i can tell Bosh is a perimiter player with little inside game. Bynum can still shoot over everyone on Miami with little resistance.

All that 2012 and 2013 prediction is a joke. Bynum is the next superstar of the league and will lead the Lakers to 4 or 5 more championships in the next 8-10 years. Bynum is the best big man in the league right now even with injury. He controls the paint on both ends of the floor like NO center has since Wilt. Bynum is a dominate rebounder, shoot blocker and has great touch shooting in traffic. And he is only 21 tears old. When Bynum gets to 25years old he will have 5 rings or more already.

I hope DWade smacks LeLoser upside the head the first time he does that chalk-throwing thing. It is, after all, Wade's house. hehe

You got your history wrong with Kobe...


Lakers didn't get Pau then Bynum started playing well. Bynum was dominating the whole first half of the season till he had the knee injury, then they traded for Pau. If Bynum didn't get hurt Pau might never of been a Laker because Bynum was avg over 20 and 10 before he got hurt.

Jermaine O'neill only plays about half the season every year. Haslim is like 6'9? How exactly is this team going to be so good? What is Lebron going to be the main scorer on the inside?

Can't wait to see Lebron try his first jump hook shot over Bynum. They will be retrieving the ball out of the 3rd row from Bynums swat rejection.

Bynum was not playing well... he was playing okay, he still did not know where to set up on the court. Yes, he dunked a few times and showed promise. When I said Bymun started playing well, I meant as a migration into the next season, where he started to improve and learn where to be on the court. It was a blessing he got hurt.

By the time the Lakers are "to old" as you say. Bynum will have 5 rings or more and leading the Lakers to 5 more rings without Kobe and Pau.

Bynum is the best, most dominate young player in the game today. When Bynum gets to 25 years old in 4 more years. He will have about 5 rings already and the experience to win 5 more on his own.

This current Lakers team is not as good as the trio in Miami. We have too many little things that surfaced in the last two years. Kobe's age and LO numbers are in decline. LO has never been a stellar defender so that's a weakness, because he will be forced to guard LBJ or Bosh. We need help at the 4 and 5 spots. Luke isn't it to backup those positions.

I think Lebron and Wade can play together. I think Lebron has probably won his last MVP though being part of the big 3. MVP probably goes to Kevin Durant next year or Kobe.

I don't see how Bosh helps though? He's got to be one of the most over rated big men in the game today. He doesn't even play in the post.

Bynum will never be great. He's already had serious knee injuries, andat this early in his areer doesn't exactly spell a long term career in the NBA. As for 5 more rings are you skipping class or something? Unless you have a top notch player around a big man they do not win by themselves. People do realize how much attention Kobe draws when he is playing on the court. All eyes are on this guy and that split seconds is enough to put yourself in position to recieve a pass or get better position. Bynum does not handle dbl teams that well. He's a poor passer and 78% of the time when the ball goes into he attempts a shot. You should read the scouting reports.

You are correct Bosh is overrated, but so are most. However, he will add spacing that a normal big man would occupy, so Wade and LBJ need spacing, so that's a benefit.

It's impossible to be overrated when you play for Toronto the past 7 years and the team made playoffs only twice during that span.
Chris Bosh is a mega-player of Pau Gasol's caliber (different style, but same caliber). No doubt.

Jon K - agreed on the common dislike now with teh Greenies.

And even better - all those Eastern Conf teams get to spew their intense dislike at each other during the playoffs wherre there will only be one left standing. How about a Cleveland (8) vs Heat (1) first round seeding?

Oh, I love this game!

"Bynum will never be great. He's already had serious knee injuries, andat this early in his areer doesn't exactly spell a long term career in the NBA. As for 5 more rings are you skipping class or something? Unless you have a top notch player around a big man they do not win by themselves. People do realize how much attention Kobe draws when he is playing on the court. All eyes are on this guy and that split seconds is enough to put yourself in position to recieve a pass or get better position. Bynum does not handle dbl teams that well. He's a poor passer and 78% of the time when the ball goes into he attempts a shot. You should read the scouting reports."

HE IS ALSO ONLY 22 YEARS OLD and still getting better at every aspect, maturing quickly like las year. While already dominant at both ends!!! What say you now?

mcdowell: You're remembering 2007, but forgetting 2004.

Remember when the Lakers, coached by Phil Jackson, lost to the Detroit Pistons, coached by Larry Brown, in 2004? That was the year of Kobe's free agency. He did not want to stick around if Shaq was going to be around. He told the Clippers that he was going to join them. Then the Lakers decided not to keep Shaq. Then Kobe decided to stay with the Lakers.

"Lakers didn't get Pau then Bynum started playing well. Bynum was dominating the whole first half of the season till he had the knee injury, then they traded for Pau. If Bynum didn't get hurt Pau might never of been a Laker because Bynum was avg over 20 and 10 before he got hurt."


BYNUM IS THE REASON WE GOT GASOL. that's right!

JonK: You said this about LeBron: "him acting like an immature narcissist, him being cheap, him having weird interpersonal problems with women... all these things that imply on a personal level this guy could be a low quality human being."

Unfortunately, all of these things can be said (and have been said, though perhaps forgotten) about a certain Laker:

Immature narcissist? ---Ball hog anyone?

Being cheap? ---Anyone remember the lawsuit for payment by the housekeeper?

Interpersonal problems with women? ---In fairness, it can at least be said about LeBron that he hasn't yet been charged with rape, and doesn't have a wife that he has publicly cheated on.

It's easy to attack the other guy now, but others have viewed our guy as no different.

Lebron, DWade, Bosh & Miller...WOW!!!

It's not unjust to say this Heat team has equivalent if not more talent than the Lakers. But I think what really scares Laker fans is the discrepancy in age and the undeniable dynasty that is about to emerge. Lakers are about to jump on the same schoolbus of denial that USC is riding.

On the flip side, maybe everyone can jump on Ron Ron's label and cut a rap album starring Kobe & Tyra.

you really think Miller turned down a 5 year deal worth 5mil a year with the 2 time defending champs and is now going to accept a deal worth at most 2 mill a year with Miami on the chance he wins a ring there? Especially with the CBA looming??

Wow some people are seriously delusional. If he does Mike Miller is as dumb as Lefollower is.

Hmmmm, why does this whole Lebron-Wade-Bosh shenanigan reminds me of the old nursery rhyme, Humpty Dumpty?

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

Clearly Lebron was sitting on a wall/fence for a while and he definitely has a head too big to handle. With that idiotic BSPN fiasco, his fall has come. And as good as the king's horses are and all the king's men in Miami, they can never make him whole again.

Seriously this couple of days, I'm getting an overdose of Lebron junk. But still, like a horrible train wreck you just can't look away. There's something so fascinating about people that are so full of it, finally coming down to earth!

Enough!!! King James, D Lord of No Rings is playing with Wade and Bosh for Miami. That's it! That's LJ. Let's focus on our Lakers. We got Phil. I hope my Lakers will get Derron, Amare and Ariza to play alongside Kobe, Artest, Bynum and maybe Gasol, Fisher, Brown and Vujacic. They can get untapped college boys to complete the team. It is a long NBA summer and anything can still happen. Lets focus on our 2nd 3peat. No more Baboon James, please...

Staples24, your story about Kobe was a bit inaccurate. Shaq left and Kobe played as instructed. He controlled where the ball will go. He played decoy. All those who branded Kobe as a ballhog doesn't know a thing about basketball. The ploy was to attract double and triple teams and when that happens, he makes kickout passes to the left or the right. Unfortunately, MOST OF THE TIME, the shots were not converted. Kobe, day in and day out makes about 20-30 passes and only 4-6 of these passes were converted. That would explain his assists avg. Kobe is a fierce competitor and he got so frustrated with the ineptness of his team that it was time for him to give the management an ultimatum. The rest was history...


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