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Caught in the Web: Details emerge regarding Kobe Bryant's knee surgery

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-- The Times' Mike Bresnahan reports that Kobe Bryant's surgery on his right knee last week was believed to "have been done in Los Angeles and included the removal of some loose bodies in the knee. It was termed a success in a brief release sent out by the team."

-- ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky explains why the Lakers are afraid Luke Walton may miss the entire season next year.

-- The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding credits the Lakers' spending this off-season even if it results in Derek Fisher taking a pay cut.

-- Pro Basketball Talk's Rob Mahoney looks at the chances Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter have in making the team.

-- ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin mentions how the team expects Bryant to be fully recovered from his knee injury once training camp begins Sept. 25.

-- The Daily News' Elliot Teaford details how the Lakers are still in negotiations with Shannon Brown.

-- Sports Illustrated's Ian Thomsen argues Bryant has become a fan favorite.

-- Lakers.com's Mike Trudell has notes on press conferences with Mitch Kupchak, Derek Fisher and Theo Ratliff.

-- Forum Blue and Gold's Darius argues the Lakers' filled their roster needs this offseason.

-- Silver Screen and Roll's DexterFishmore looks at Kupchak's busy offseason.

Tweet of the Day: "Me: They signed the new guy because they don't know if Walton will be able to play. Wife (dry): Wow. Those are tough shoes to fill. BK" -- ESPNLandoLakers (ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky)

Reader Comment of the Day: "I really think Mitch Kupchak did a fantastic job of spending Dr. Buss' money this offseason. It's like he went to a discount shopping club and got 4 months worth of groceries with 1 month's budget." -- bronxlakerfan

-- Mark Medina

Follow the L.A. Times Lakers blog on Twitter: twitter.com/latmedina. E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Kobe Bryant and his Lakers teammates begin to celebrate their 83-79 victory over the Boston Celtics in Game 7 of the NBA Finals at Staples Center. Credit: Robert Gauthier/ Los Angeles Times.

 
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@LEWSTRS, I'll say it again, you are one heck of a classy guy. But you got it wrong. You're Mitch Kupchak & I'm Ronnie Lester, I'm here to help you in any way possible. Thanks again for being so classy.
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Hey MM...

Thanks for the RCOTD! It means a lot that I beat out the many gems from DFish! :)

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@LONGTIMELAKERLOVER, You got a heck of a volume of Basketball Knowledge for guy or gal. If it will make you feel a little more comfortable there are quite a few few females on the Blog, some you can tell by their names some you can’t. Here is a partial list: FAITH, BOB, CBUCK, LakersRydeOrDie, J24, LakerLass, Zaira, Justa, Jennette, LakerGurl, PsychedLakerGirl, SimiLakerGirl, Stargazin, LakerLady, SFLakerGirl, Hyacinth, LakerGirl1980, HoustonLakerGirl, Sarah Smith, Jacqueline, Tsiry,

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Posted by: mamba24 | July 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Nemaia Faletogo,

You asked about Sasha. I expect him to make his shots this year.

Art -FL Lakers Fan,

I *think* it was you, but I'm not sure, who asked me to retract my claws
towards LakerTom.

LakerTom wrote: Same with the way that Blitz and Hobbitmage criticize and minimize Andrew Bynum’s value and accomplishments.

Posted by: LakerTom | July 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM

So ... what was the last thing I said about Bynum? I said that Mbenga was
a better shot blocker & defensive player. And the links I posted showed that
Mbenga was a better shot blocker per 36 minutes, right?

& LakerTom says that I have minimized Bynum's value/accomplishments
(by telling the truth) , right?

@BronxlakerFan, RCOTD + BRONXLAKERFAN = OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!! Congrats!

Thanks Mamba24....Happy Laker Saturday to you, my friend!!

Why is Chris Paul prostrating himself before LeBron James and his crew? This is a pathetic turn of events for the NBA, that LeBron James is now active GM/Busness manager of half the NBAs superstars. I really, really thought more of this Chris Paul guy than I should have. He's obviously the one at the end of the chain peeing on fire hydrants. From hoopshype:


"Brian Windhorst: Word is LeBron indeed advised Paul to demand a trade but he wants CP3 to stay in Western Conf. to make a better rivalry. Twitter"


Can we buss all the fans from Cleveland, Toronto and New Orleans to Miami and supply them with a bunch of torches and an old wind mill to chase LeBron into? This guy has become a monster of unbelievable ugliness and needs to eliminated....as it were.


Wes

Hobbitmage,

As I told you in early July, I am not interested in communicating with you and I have not posted any comments to you since then.

It was someone else who asked you to try and limit your negative and condescending remarks.

I'm still not interested in communicating with you.

Thanks Mamba24....Happy Laker Saturday to you, my friend!! Posted by: bronxlakerfan | July 24, 2010 at 12:01 PM
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Happy Saturday to you also! Now go out and enjoy yourself!
mamba24

My daily haiku...

Dog days of summer...
No Laker games to ponder...
Lakers Blog my fix...

@EDWIN… You are partially right. I do appreciate Shannon’s contributions to the Lakers but I also think his shortcomings and lack of skills and smarts are why he still has not been signed by the Lakers and has very minimal interest from any other team. I wish him well but would prefer him to not be on the Lakers any more. If Mitch brings him back, however, you can count on me cheering for him. I doubt as the 11th man he will really see any playing time. And his return is probably tied to Luke’s situation. I would much prefer Luke getting healthy than that roster spot going to Brown.
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TOM

Good saturday everyone!
Just waiting for Shannon's signature and we'll be ready to go. I'm more calm now, after the Barnes thing. I'm confident PJ can show him the light... Also, Ratliff seems to be a good addition to the team...Can't wait for some pre-season games; last pre-season we had lots of dunks, alleyoops, etc...was NICE to watch.

Laker Tom,

Thanks, those compliments are appreciated.

I agree with you about Jeremy Lin, I was really hoping the lakers could have stole him. Rather than disrupt a championship roster by trading for a Chris Paul or whomever, I would love for them to have found a young hidden gem that turns into a winner in a few years. During the Lin Debates :)
I was imagining 3-4 years down the road when Drew is dominating the other NBA centers and then Lin coming into his own as one of the top tier point guards. What a great young nucleus to build around as the other guys begin to fade.
Oh well, there will be other opportunities.

Also, that comment about DFish the blogger perhaps being the real life Derek Fisher stalker, LOL, that was good, and not at all unbelievable.

I must say though, whenever DFish posts anything I smile thinking about all those posts he made during the latter half of the season saying the Lakers would never win a championship as long as Fisher was on the team.
Actually, I am surprised that he isn't too embarrassed to even show up here.

bronxlakerfan @ It means a lot that I beat out the many gems from DFish! :)

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LOL, that's just about as good as your RCOTD!

I must say though, whenever DFish posts anything I smile thinking about all those posts he made during the latter half of the season saying the Lakers would never win a championship as long as Fisher was on the team.
Actually, I am surprised that he isn't too embarrassed to even show up here.


Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | July 24, 2010 at 12:35 PM

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Art, my thoughts, as well. I also recall him clamoring that Farmar should be the starting PG.

I was watching the Figueroa parade, looking for someone who might be heckling Derek - that would have been DFish the Blogger, without a doubt. But nothing of the sort showed up...

LakerTom,

" If Mitch brings him back, however, you can count on me cheering for him. I doubt as the 11th man he will really see any playing time. And his return is probably tied to Luke’s situation. I would much prefer Luke getting healthy than that roster spot going to Brown. "

~~ most of the time we agree with you, on this matter many will disagree with your assessment. Yes of course we all wanted Luke to get well and if we try to joke about it, it was done in a jest because of his own showing in missing a lot of free open shots. I guess you felt jilted for the departure of Farmar and have not realized the dream of "Start Farmar" in '07. Anyway, if Brown is signed and made some crucial contributions, I hope you will stick to your present stance at this time. I will remind u again at a later date like what you used to say that Sefolosha, Tyrus Thomas, Shelden Williams are much better acquisitions. This was before your kid Drew came to the Lakers, remember those days...

Hi Kids

No more trade rumors! (yeah sure)

I missed out on the sci-fi list thing last week... but noticed a glaring omission:

The original 1953 “Invaders From Mars”. With that wonderfully oppressive 50’s morality --there is evil coming to wipe the “gee whiz” off your face...
fantastic wooden acting. One of the best films of my childhood.

And here it is: http://retrovision.tv/freevideo/invaders-from-mars-1953/

Congrats Bronxlakerfan, you truly deserved to be recognized.

bronxlakerfan - The award is well deserved.

Just a housekeeping note - I plan to keep the posts pretty minimal during the weekends until training camp starts. I had hoped to do a chat during Team USA's game tonight, but I have a friend who's actually moving to D.C. tomorrow and have dinner plans with him and a few other buddies.

I'm planning to work through next week, with Matt Barnes having a press conference Tuesday, Shannon Brown' s situation possibly being official and news likely emerging from Andrew Bynum's surgery.

I'll share my vacation plans once they become official. I have a few logistics to take care of with friends and family. But whenever I do take off, the Times sports dept will make sure it's active.

MM

Besides therapy on the operated knee, his back, and ankle...

Kobe will have all summer to make adjustments on his shot...for the finger cannot be fixed with surgery, far too much scar tissue on the knuckle...

He will keep working with 'The Rifleman" and working on adjusting his shot, and using his middle finger, instead of the forefinger, to direct his shot...

Kobe knew the risk when he decided to keep playing and forgo surgery...Gotta love his dedication and sacrifice to WINNING...even if it meant permanent injury...

The original 1953 “Invaders From Mars”. With that wonderfully oppressive 50’s morality --there is evil coming to wipe the “gee whiz” off your face...
fantastic wooden acting. One of the best films of my childhood.
And here it is: http://retrovision.tv/freevideo/invaders-from-mars-1953/

Posted by: Noah | July 24, 2010 at 12:43 PM

ROFLMAO!!! Ah man this ISH is great! Well I've found my Saturday afternoon entertainment. Lol! Thanks man but by the way you might want to check on those rabbits in the back I count 1002. I thought it was just suppose to be 2. Oh & the IPAD, Justa has given up on it so you can tell GOD (The Real One not the Fake Blog One) to just redirect the IPAD to me! LMAO. Thanks again sir and have a wonderful Saturday & weekend.

It'll be interesting to see if teams use zone defenses more against us next season after watching how Phoenix used it to limited success. If Ron and Fish continue to struggle from beyond the arc next season, I could see other teams mixing in the zone against us. Blake and Sasha will be critical to provide some spacing inside for our bigs.

I'd also like to see Phil incorporate some form of the zone in preparation for a Finals showdown against Miami. We all saw how Team USA struggled against the zone, particularly when Wade and LBJ were on the floor. We make them outside shooters, and we have a great chance to win.

I'll share my vacation plans once they become official. I have a few logistics to take care of with friends and family. But whenever I do take off, the Times sports dept will make sure it's active. Posted by: Mark Medina | July 24, 2010 at 12:45 PM
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Just make sure you take Justa with you! ROFLMAO!! Just playing with you BLOG GOD, don't strike me down! Have a great vacation MM you deserve it. Oh and your grade for this past season...A+ and ...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!
mamba24

Kobe knew the risk when he decided to keep playing and forgo surgery...Gotta love his dedication and sacrifice to WINNING...even if it meant permanent injury...Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 24, 2010 at 12:52 PM
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That's why he's Kobe Bryant The Black Mamba & everybody else is...
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And now for my Shout Out OF The Day: FRAK PRINCESS JIMMY!!!

Mamba24

"Chances are Excellent" regarding the ipad. (I inquired through an intermediary: the magic 8 ball.)

I was glad to find the movie online.. haven't seen it in a few decades, so I might be killing my Saturday watching it too...


Actually this time Zen you are wrong. Usually the game plan is to send him to the help defense where there are big mans to help stiffle dribble penetration (Bynum is the worst at this Gasol to a lesser extent). That being said you can't allow dribble penetration to places where there are no help. If the penetrator either goes away from the screen or does a cross over to eliminate the first defender it compromises the defenses and forces help to come at leaves people open (It's different in screens and rolls when the 2nd defender is a big factor just as much as the initial defender).

Fisher isn't the guy to consistently deny dribble penetration especially in the age of no hand checking where his strength advantage is nullified. That being said Farmar was worst even against quick guards because Jordan's lateral quickness was bad even for him (he's fast in terms of track speed, he could beat the team in the 40 meter dash).

As much as people are high on Steve Blake's defense I'm not sold on it. He will get torched just as much as Fisher will.

Not embarassed at all. The Finals were a sham. An average Laker team beat an old pathetic Boston team. One of the worst played Finals in recent memory.

Posted by: DFish | July 24, 2010 at 01:14 PM

That old pathetic Boston team beat Wade's Heat, Lebron's Cavaliers who had the best record in the NBA, and nearly swept Dwight's Magic who had the second best record in the NBA.

This average Laker team beat a young Thunder squad with a 60% Bryant before his knee drainage, SWEPT a Utah Jazz team that beat Carmelo's Nuggets, and beat a RED HOT Suns squad whose bench was good to complement its starters.

Who would you want the Lakers to face in the Finals in 2010 the Toronto Raptors? LOL! You fail DFish....BIG TIME!

Not embarassed at all. The Finals were a sham. An average Laker team beat an old pathetic Boston team. One of the worst played Finals in recent memory.
Posted by: DFish | July 24, 2010 at 01:14 PM
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But Dfish baby, that would mean that the entire NBA is either average or old & pathetic. Or at least pathetic to let an average team win the title. Common Dfish, come on, you know you say these things to raise controversy. But I will give you your props that posts you did about The Lakers were a Lock now that they had signed Fisher with his slashing style & incredible shooting percentage and finishes at the basket. Now that was a Freakin gem it had me laughing for days man. maybe you should use your talents more for satire and put a softer edge on them. Come on Dfish I know I know you cn do it.

Noah - just so you know, I have not now - nor have I ever - given up on getting the iPad. I'm not sure what Mamba24's talking about, but I think he's jealous of my iPad-obtaining skills. So Noah - how's it coming? My laptop is dying a slow, painful death and that new iPad sure would come in handy - any day now... I've got it's place of honor already chosen - in front of the flat screen, not too far from the fridge stocked with Pepsi and vodka...

LOL!!!!

Noah--
yes, Invaders from Mars. If you watched it before the age of 10, it was terrifying. Everyone you're supposed to trust cannot be trusted. So glad that's just a nightm---wait a minute.

Wes--
Share your disappointment in C. Paul and your righteous anger at the LBJ colluding conglomerate. A three-peat will not only be great for us, it may just save the NBA.

Darius's FB&G piece--
re: his comment on Matt Barnes' sometimes poor shot selection, particularly w/3s. While it may be accurate, I can't help but think that there will be enough folks ready to give him an earful in the moment. Hard to compare what he'll be doing on a REAL TEAM compared to what he was doing (or asked to do) on the Warriors.

BTW-- John Havlicek played 82 games at the age of 37, before today's much better training regimens and sports medicine. For some, it's just in the genes. Let's hear it for our aging team. Go Fish and TR.

Does anyone have an answer for the above ?

Posted by: DFish | July 24, 2010 at 01:34 PM

No because he does get critique. You are just so blind enough by your own hate that you even overlook ones that criticize Fisher!

Hence why your analysis: SUCKS if you cannot even recognize ones that criticize Fisher LOL!

@Noah, damn I'm even thinking like you now, posting to DFish about blazing speed! NOOOOOAH, what did you put in that video? Some type of subliminal message? lol!
Mamba24

Hey MM,

Is anything being done to fix Kobe's finger...I mean..inasmuch as an arthritic finger can be fixed...Kobe being Kobe..he did great despite the injury except for some stretches and only have a few problems like turnovers/occasional bad shooting nights...he was quite often his dominant self but the finger really seemed to hamper his game at times....any word on that ???

Amit

Many thanks to all for the kind words and thoughts.....

@Laker Tom.....LT, you know I value your opinion but I have to respectfully disagree with you on the Shannon vs. Sasha debate. I think Shannon brings more to the table than Sasha and has more of an upside. I honestly felt that Shannon's injured thumb caused him to take a step back in the second half of last season. I will agree that he made some serious defensive mistakes in the Finals, especially when he was assigned to Ray Allen.

Sasha has peaked IMO...and his peak is more like a hillock than a mountain. He's a supposed three point shooter who hasn't been able to locate his shot for the past two seasons. At this point in time his greatest value to the Lakers is his expiring contract. Sasha's and Luke's contract has been holding the Lakers hostage for a long time. Sasha scored 185 points last year. He earned $5.475M. Not much bang for the buck. In light of the present economic conditions and the state of flux in which the NBA finds itself, even if Sasha had a career season this year, would he be worth $5m again? I don't think so. Anyway, as I said, it's just my opinion.

Noah - just so you know, I have not now - nor have I ever - given up on getting the iPad. I'm not sure what Mamba24's talking about, but I think he's jealous of my iPad-obtaining skills. So Noah - how's it coming? My laptop is dying a slow, painful death and that new iPad sure would come in handy - any day now... I've got it's place of honor already chosen - in front of the flat screen, not too far from the fridge stocked with Pepsi and vodka...LOL!!!!
Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 24, 2010 at 01:38 PM
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LMAO! Now see, SEE! I was trying to help a sister out and just throw in a subtle reminder that you were still waiting foR that IPAD! But you think the Head of the Mamba family appreciates it? Nooooooooo! Very well, just for that I myself, Yes I mamba24, may well try a Vodka, Pepsi and yes And a percoset. Now see what you've done! LMAO!

justa... this just in from the magic 8 ball.. initially, I got "Reply hazy, try again", then "Concentrate and ask again".
Then on the second to last attempt... "YOU MAY RELY ON IT"

And on the final try..."You are funny, dammit"

Why do people on the blog critique Gasol, Lamar, Farmar and Bynum on a game to game basis ? But Fisher is given a free ride and if he hits a big shot once or twice a year they hail him as some big hero !!!
It makes zero sense !!!!
Posted by: DFish

Does anyone have an answer for the above ?
Posted by: DFish | July 24, 2010 at 01:34 PM
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You are right in that people critique the other Lakers, and others have also critiqued Fisher from time to time.

I think what you are missing is the answer to your question is contained in your question.

My point is, others critique not only Fisher on occasion, but the other players as well.

In about 99% of your posts you only complain about Fisher and you do it endlessly to the point of nausea.

If you would let up on Fisher, maybe go with an occasional swipe at him when he has a bad game or whatever and also post other commentary related to the Lakers or players or other teams or trade scenarios, etc, and try and balance your constant diatribes against Fisher with other commentary, you would likely get much less grief here.
Just say something, anything, positive about something or someone.

I don't know why, but am just trying to help you see the light.

Im pretty exicited about this Theo Ratliff signing, he bring a toughness and veteran leadership we havent had in a long time. Fisher and Kobe should look up to Theo and he comes to play every game he is a hard worker. He will rub off on Gasol Bynum and Odom for the better. Matt Barnes brings toughness to our defense but idk if hes a great defender but i know he tries to play defence hard. Steve Blaake brings toughness to our point guard spot and has great defence and can guard the faster and big point guards. We have a real tough team plus everyone coming back.

Since we got Blake i dont think we need Shannon, Let Sasha get more minutes and he trys to play hard defence and has a jumper. Sasha just fouls so much in stupid position and when he drives to the basket he cant finish at all. Just like Brown they are the same just shannon can dunk and Sasha can shoot. its up to Buss i can care less if he comes backk or goes in happy with the roster.

Sign Ebanks and Caracter and call it a day....aless a trade for Luke or Sasha come up thats it

For those wondering about Kobe's finger:

He may not choose to get surgery.

Why?

Because the avulsion fracture that he initially got last year is healed. That's the place where could have had surgery.

The thing about the finger is the arthritis. The arthritis is what was resulted from him taping up the finger and opting to play through it.

As Jim Mora would say "Surgery would do DIDDLY-POO to fix the arthritis in Kobe's finger".

That's why Kevin Ding stated it may have been permanent damage. The avulsion fracture is healed. Kobe may have to play with arthritis the rest of his career.

lurker

I actually WAS terrified. That image of the “sand pit” up on the hill behind the broken rail fence swallowing all of the adults..

Wes,


"Why is Chris Paul prostrating himself before LeBron James and his crew? This is a pathetic turn of events for the NBA, that LeBron James is now active GM/Busness manager of half the NBAs superstars."


Dude, it's like he was Darth Sith protege and has completely run off the reservation and and is creating Sith-havok everywhere.


I've posted on this before but no one took me seriously.


At Cleveland, LeBron LITERALLY played the role of assistant coach and assistant GM. When he disagreed with their coach (who was decent) they got rid of the coach. When he disagreed with the GM (who was good) they got rid of him.


Now their entire administration is vacant at the top. He DESTROYED that organization.


My point is LeBron isn't used to ANYONE telling him "No." He's used to travelling because he's not called for it. He's used to having a say in coaching, because that's what he's done. He's used to having a say in contracts, because that's what he's done.


NOW however because of The Betrayal (a national event), he's no longer a Cleveland icon, he's an international icon (in his mind). He's not limited to Cleveland, he probably thinks he's not limited to the NBA (in his mind). I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the phone right now with the front offices of Manchester United telling them what moves they should make.


I'm serious here. The guy has lost touch with reality. He's surrrounded by a cadre of hoodrats who have said nothing but "Yeah, LeBron, you're the greatest" since he was 17 AND he's been on an organization that has said "Yeah, LeBron, whatever you want" for seven years and now he's been spoiled in South Beach.


He is on his way to being a hybrid of Elvis Presley and Howard Hughes... that's how distorted this guy's social reality is.


This is what happens when you take a guy who isn't a natural leader, doesn't have the bloodthirst for victory, and tell him he's the "Greatest ever" on a daily basis for years when he hasn't even won a ring.


It would screw up any person, but especially a person with such a unhealthy family history.


Dude, trust me, this jet is crashing nose-first into the side of a mountain. It's only a matter of time.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

MM, thanks for all the great links above. Sometimes we get caught up in our (often) inane conversations with each other and lose track of the great Laker stuff you make available, all in one pace, along with your increasingly bold comments on the team. Thanks.


I was struck by part of what Mitch said about Luke. It's easy to de-humanize these guys and get down on a struggling player. Mitch expressed real
appreciation for Luke's desire to become a productive teammated again:


"He's a gamer and he loves to play. He wants to be a part of the team, and he'll do whatever it takes to get back on the court. That's a positive, to have the kind of player that's motivated to get well. That's not always the case."


Whatever you think of Luke's game you have to appreciate his attitude, and Mitch's, given that Luke being hurt makes Mitch's job harder. (I say "whatever you think of Luke's game" because I have heard vague rumors that some folks here may not be huge fans.)


In any case, Barnes is a great solution to "Walton Problem", Blake should be better here than Farmar, and Ratliff/Caracter may be more productive than Mbenga/Powell. When do we get to start the season?

Jon K, come off it. how did LeBron destroy the organization? U should blame the owner not LBJ..


"Actually this time Zen you are wrong. Usually the game plan is to send him to the help defense where there are big mans to help stiffle dribble penetration (Bynum is the worst at this Gasol to a lesser extent). That being said you can't allow dribble penetration to places where there are no help. If the penetrator either goes away from the screen or does a cross over to eliminate the first defender it compromises the defenses and forces help to come at leaves people open (It's different in screens and rolls when the 2nd defender is a big factor just as much as the initial defender). "

ok, Isnt that what I said? He sends them to the big men!

Also, I think you answered DFish's question.!


Jon K says:

"He is on his way to being a hybrid of Elvis Presley and Howard Hughes..."

Hmm. Keeping jars of his urine; eating fried PB, banana and mayo sandwiches; watching Ice Station Zebra every night (sometimes two or three times a night); taking lots of prescription meds and wearing jumpsuits; no longer shaving or cutting his hair.

noah--
yes, the pit still scares me today, too.

"--Kupchak appeared satisfied with his off-season work: "I think we've added depth and I think we've addressed our major concern, knowing that Jordan [Farmar] would probably not return, that left a gaping hole in our backcourt."

(this was one of the entries from MM's previous post)

let's try to translate this PC comment:

Farmar sucked
Farmar was not liked by PJ and the management
Farmar will never be re-signed

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for years LakerTom salivated like a Pavlovian Dog just fantasizing and actually FIRMLY believing that Jordan Farmar and Andrew Bynum r the 2 other ALPHA DOGS next to Kobe Bryant. (whowwwwwwwwwww)

so looks like LakerTom is one of those "fans" who r not agreeing with management and know 90% more than the management and bloggers on this blog and let's say even the bloggosphere.

and now he ALSO has sour grapes and is crying at home that the management DID NOT HAVE THE VISION of signing Jeremy Lin for peanuts.

how that works LakerTom? can't see the splinter in your eyes?


DFish,

Perhaps Westbrook was so quick at getting to the spots where there is no help, it was killing the Lakers. All Fish cares about is to send them to where the help is, but Fish doesnt have the size to recover and alter his shot if his man decides to pull up. Height is something Fisher cannot control.

However, you and I are just speculating. But there is one thing I know, Phil Jackson has 13 championship rings and Fisher has 5..Do you really think that if Fisher was not doing what Jackson wanted that he would even be playing?

Honestly? You are basically calling Phil an Idiot. Phil Jackson knows exactly what Fisher brings and they both use it to the teams advantage.

for those of you wondering what the role of UPS can be?

the Lakers r one of the few teams that don't have a mascot. it will be great to have him during the timeout and at half dunking from the trampoline. and his fees won't count against the cap or part of the luxury taxes.

and that will give ShanWOW his moments of brilliance. to shine at what he is the best.

Mamba24?? You started it by saying I didn't want the iPad anymore LOL! Don't be blaming your very unhealthy vodka & percoset habit on me!!

Seriously you guys - where do you think I heard of that in the first place?

HAHAHAHA!!!

Noah - yes. It's true. I am funny dammit. And soon to be a funny iPod owner dammit if I'm reading you correctly!


some fans HATE Fisher
Kobe LOVES Fisher
same fans HATE Kobe

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i'm really happy that Art - FL Laker Fan discovered syllogism

way to gooooooooooooooooooo

I am beginning to believe the post, where Derek must have done some serious wrong to DFish...

All the hate DFish...must be personal...post the real reasons...for your BB reasons are not accurate...

So tell us...did he steal your girlfriend...key your car...take your last beer...

What really happened...why do you hate Derek Fisher so much...

Keen observer,


There's lots of blame to go around, but, yes, Dan Gilbert has been certainly an enabler. Now it seems that Pat Riley is doing the same.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Don't be blaming your very unhealthy vodka & percoset habit on me!! Seriously you guys - where do you think I heard of that in the first place?
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Well since everybody, blames everything on him, I'll say...DFISH! LMAO.
Just playing with ya Dfish, I don't mean no harm brother! Lol!

random lurker,


"Keeping jars of his urine; eating fried PB, banana and mayo sandwiches; watching Ice Station Zebra every night (sometimes two or three times a night); taking lots of prescription meds and wearing jumpsuits; no longer shaving or cutting his hair."


In that direction, yes.


Dude, the same group of hoodrat Yes!-men are now contracted with the Heat and paid on-staff! They have a vested interest in feeding LeBron's ego and keeping him isolated from "reality". This is what happens!


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K, come off it. how did LeBron destroy the organization? U should blame the owner not LBJ..

Posted by: keen observer | July 24, 2010 at 01:59 PM
I actually agree w/ Jon K...

oh crap... justa, I just asked again and got "Don't count on it". We should have left well enough alone..
btw, I'm going with the magic 8 ball because I don't believe in God anymore.
But I sure miss him...

keen observer,


However, LeBron did get Cleveland's capable coach and GM fired, implying he would stay if they left.


They've now got a good coach in Byron Scott, but their General Manager position is much weaker. LeBron basically through a grenade into the front office, closed the door and walked out.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Jon K, come off it. how did LeBron destroy the organization? U should blame the owner not LBJ..
Posted by: keen observer | July 24, 2010 at 01:59 PM
I actually agree w/ Jon K... Posted by: Magic Phil | July 24, 2010 at 02:20 PM
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I blame that black hearted villian, Darth Stern! Whenever there is anything that smells like Skull Dugery or evil in the NBA you can bet Darth Sterns evil or one of his evil henchemen is behind it. You think Prince Jimmy has the brains for this? Really? Really? Come on now, if you had said Dwade or even Chris Bosh, OK! But Princess freakin Jimmy. LMAO!

LEWSTRS,


"I am beginning to believe the post, where Derek must have done some serious wrong to DFish..."


DFish either has mental problems or is a Jazz fan or both.


He's best left to starvation.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!

Dammit Noah - you suck.

:)

OK I'm catching on...

ouchhhhhhhh and hobbitmage do not like Laker Tom...

justa is trying to get a free, IPad, and some are saying she is not funny...

MagicPhil is a trouble maker...

There are questions and theories why phred and Rick Friedman dominates the RCOTD...

We almost lost Mamba24, but thankfully he is back...

Fatty and family had to bail from their house, due to fires, but has moved back in, but now is fighting flash floods and mud slides due to monsoon weather in AZ...

We have plenty of female fans who are knowledgeable and are the real Laker Girls...

We have great posts but never dirty, even his name is Mud...

Then we have contributions which you cannot dispute for his name is God...

We have a bald Boston fan who is a frequent guest...

We have a home troll who hates Derek Fisher, just for pure spite...

Ironically, we have a great contributor and regular, who is named Troll Man...

I'm new, but I catch on fast...I will be fully up to date, by the first preseason game...I promise...lol

Mamba24,


"I blame that black hearted villian, Darth Stern! Whenever there is anything that smells like Skull Dugery or evil in the NBA you can bet Darth Sterns evil or one of his evil henchemen is behind it."


Oh, Darth Stern STARTED this, but Princess Jimmy ended this is a way that Darth Stern cannot be happy about. Especially now that Princess Jimmy is sticking his hands in other superstars' decision-making.


I think Wes commented on this the other day.


This is BAD for the NBA because its leading to an NBA where the major markets completely dominate the sport and the minor market teams just suck, thereby making them financially unviable. As such, the next CBA agreement will be VERY difficult to negotiate and will create all sorts of problems.


Darth Stern has created a monster he can no longer control.


He's now going to have to somehow convince Kevin Skywalker Durant to go in an kill that monster.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

DFish either has mental problems or is a Jazz fan or both. He's best left to starvation. Posted by: Jon K. | July 24, 2010 at 02:26 PM
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Now, now Jon K., my brother, personal attacks are not the way. After all, did we not win & DFish lose? Attack his logic, yes. Attack his ceaseless attacks on Derrick Fisher, Hell Yes! but to attack the mans character...No, No, No my brother that is not the way. It will only lead you closer to the realm of that Dark hearted villian Darth Stern! Turn away Jon. K, I say turn away before it's to late. Lol!

Don't blame Noah!

I'm new, but I catch on fast...I will be fully up to date, by the first preseason game...I promise...lol Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
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Yes Lewstrs you are new, you do catch on fast. You are also classy and...OUT FREAKIN STANDDING SIR!!!
mamba24

IMO those who disagreed with MM about Fisher not being rewarded enough are 100% right.

Given his stats and immediate future value Fish was given a contract more than he deserved. The salary per year is on the generous side already but the extra third year was really OVER THE TOP! It's very possible that in that 3rd year Fish will be in the same position Luke Walton is in right now.

OTH, I am not too ready to blame Laker FO for that. Folks, please don't forget the special relationship between Kobe and Fish. Notice how Kobe always put in a very nice word for Fish? My guess here is that Kobe used his "not-so-subtle" influence to help his friend out to a little extras.

Last but not least I also would like to think that there are plenty of "under-the-table" rewards that a team like the Lakers can bestow to players who are willing to negotiate. Players such as Barners and Ratliff may officially signed for a little less money than they could have gotten elsewhere but surely the Laker organization could also have promised them other perks to lessen their "sacrifices". For example, it's entirely possible the FO made a gentlemen's agreement to reward Barnes with a decent pay raise or extension after his current contract runs out and LA has more money to spend later.

Dammit Noah - you suck. :) Posted by: justanothermambafan | July 24, 2010 at 02:29 PM
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But, unlike you...wait for it...He (IS) DAMNN FUNNY! lol! Just playing with you Justa! I think you are very funny...even when you are not trying to be!Lmao! You know I'm just playing with you sis!
Mamba24

LEWSTRS, Mamba24, and Fatty should join together to form a superteam designed to negate the dark magics of the Three Meatheads from the soon-to-be-underwater Miami.


None can defeat.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

Don't blame Noah! Posted by: The Magic 8 Ball | July 24, 2010 at 02:37 PM
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HELL NAW, Don't blame Noah. At least until he get's GOD to send me that IPAD that justa doesn't need. And may I say that's a hell of a name, I like it!

i'm really happy that Art - FL Laker Fan discovered syllogism

way to gooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: ouchhhhhhhh | July 24, 2010 at 02:15 PM
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Umm, thanks for the credit, but I believe it was Aristotle who did that.

He's now going to have to somehow convince Kevin Skywalker Durant to go in an kill that monster. Posted by: Jon K. | July 24, 2010 at 02:32 PM
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ROFLMAO!!!! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

Which name, Mamba24... Magic 8 Ball, ipad, God?

Jon, K,

While I agree with many of your comments, I believe the Cavs owner has to share a large part of the responsibility for allowing James to behave as he did and for being an enabler.

James needs some big doses of tough love, but I am somewhat ambivalent to that happening as it may make James an even bigger nightmare of a player.

After what Miami agreed to it doesn't appear he is going to get it there. I have long been a Riley fan but seeing him sell himself out to the James Gang is very disappointing and lowers him quite a few notches in the respect category.

btw, I'm going with the magic 8 ball because I don't believe in God anymore.
But I sure miss him... Posted by: Noah | July 24, 2010 at 02:22 PM
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WTH? Who are you, you imposter? You are not our Noah. Tell us what you have done with him or face WaterBoarding or worst still a years readings of the Best of DFISH POSTS. Now I know that goes against the Geneva convention, but these are desperate times. now release him immediately. Hold on Noah we will find you!! Mmeanwhile what did I do with that Volume of the Best of DFish. May God forgive me for what I am about to do.

i'm really happy that Art - FL Laker Fan discovered syllogism way to gooooooooooooooooooo Posted by: ouchhhhhhhh | July 24, 2010 at 02:15 PM
Umm, thanks for the credit, but I believe it was Aristotle who did that. Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | July 24, 2010 at 02:44 PM
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LMAO!!

Which name, Mamba24... Magic 8 Ball, ipad, God? Posted by: The Magic 8 Ball | July 24, 2010 at 02:46
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And a sense of humour too! Magic 8 Ball of course! Quite Cool!

You Frickin IDIOT!!!!!

"Why do people on the blog critique Gasol, Lamar, Farmar and Bynum on a game to game basis ? But Fisher is given a free ride and if he hits a big shot once or twice a year they hail him as some big hero !!!

It makes zero sense !!!!

Posted by: DFish | July 24, 2010 at 01:10 PM"

Those moments make championships.The season is a long ride, but the playoffs are........why the heck am I trying to talking to a road apple????

Mamba,

C'mon, bro. I showed a lot of "patients" with Staples24 becoming St. Pales for a while. I cannot have you become Mama B. any longer :)

Mamba24,


Brother, after all these years you know better.


There is only one solution pattern that works, which has evolved due to the presence of Blog Lord, Mark Medina:


Identify the Troll
Scourge the Troll
Starve the Troll
Ban the Troll.


That's it. You know that's the only way that works.


What do we play for? RINGS!!!


Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.


GO LAKERS!!!

I've watched every game the past three years, and many more over the decades. Think they should quit wasting money on Walton. Makes me nervous when he has the ball. Thinks he's a passing expert, but throws away too many passes. If he could shoot, he might not be a bad player, but over the past several years he hasn't been able to throw the ball in the ocean, and he hasn't shown anything on "D". It appears he's on the team for sentimental value. Probably would have kept Josh Powell over Walton.

Mmeanwhile what did I do with that Volume of the Best of DFish. May God forgive me for what I am about to do.

Posted by: mamab24 | July 24, 2010 at 02:53 PM
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Mamba,

That's funny.

Something that would be really good though, would be a Best of the Lakers Blog.

The best quotes, anecdotes, and stories.
Entertaining, humorous and sarcastic as well as knowledgeable and thought provoking, representing the best of what the bloggers provided.

There could even be Volumes by year, 200x, 200y, 200z, etc.

It would take some serious researching, but I would probably pay real money for something like that.

I bet people would buy it, not just Lakers fans, but BB fans in general.

"Sasha has peaked IMO...and his peak is more like a hillock than a mountain. He's a supposed three point shooter who hasn't been able to locate his shot for the past two seasons. At this point in time his greatest value to the Lakers is his expiring contract. Sasha's and Luke's contract has been holding the Lakers hostage for a long time. Sasha scored 185 points last year. He earned $5.475M. Not much bang for the buck. In light of the present economic conditions and the state of flux in which the NBA finds itself, even if Sasha had a career season this year, would he be worth $5m again? I don't think so. Anyway, as I said, it's just my opinion.

Posted by: bronxlakerfan | July 24, 2010 at 01:47 PM"

As I have always said, Sasha shot bricks for years, turned it on late in one year, and now has probably gone back to being erratic Sasha. However I do give him credit for trying to be an defensive pest, seeing Sasha, Barnes, Kobe and Artest on the floor at the same time will be interesting. Brown is still a project, his jumper definitely improved last year. He knows his highlight dunks can turn the tide of the game...I say that at his low price, he is worth keeping around.

For all of the anti-Sasha people,

If Sasha shoots this coming season like he shoot in 2008-2009, do you
still want to trade him?

re: the anti-D-Fisher people ( this includes D-Fish the poster),

We payed D-Fisher 5 mil per year the last 3 years. We can't know much
about what happened during practice & during huddles. We do know
that all of the players rave about him. We

Is a 5 million dollar insurance policy a good investment on 90 million?

I would prefer that we didn't need it. However, it's not a perfect world.
So we paid for it and we won. Could we have won with/out the insurance
policy? Maybe. You can live life without health insurance, but why would
you want to?

Mamba24, Brother, after all these years you know better. There is only one solution pattern that works, which has evolved due to the presence of Blog Lord, Mark Medina:
Identify the Troll
Scourge the Troll
Starve the Troll
Ban the Troll.
Posted by: Jon K. | July 24, 2010 at 03:06 PM
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Sho ya Right! I consider myself properly rebuked and I thank you my brother. It's just a lil ways to that slippery slope that leads eventually to the Dark Realm where lives That manifestation of NBA EVIL...DARTH FREAKIN STERN!! Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like meeeeee.....


@Art-FL Lakers Fan, Best of Blog sounds like a good idea to me, but I got scared for one moment. I thought you were going to say the Best of THE JACKSON JOURNALS by Mike freakin T. LOL!

I'm new, but I catch on fast...I will be fully up to date, by the first preseason game...I promise...lol

Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
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now u r pushing it.
please learn some more.
or how JUSTA will say: just a NEWBIE.

from the archives, i will have to inform u that I, ouchhhhhhh and also "hobbit", we were on the bandwagon when LakerTom attended the Lakers-Warriors game in Oakland with Mrs. LakerTom and his nephew: wishing them a great time. they had an anniversary.

also, we poked a few jabs, questioning his wardrobe and Laker gear. that kinda became an instant classic, even if it was/is/will be an inside joke between me and hobbit.

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you better wait till Christmas.
December is the month when Bynum will suck and LakerTom will disappear. his excuse will be that he suffered from Avian flu, Nile virus or something EXOTIC (that takes one away from blogging for a month), that not EVEN the Marin County Health commission will be able to confirm because there is no data of those cases in their history.
and if that is true, that means that or his doctor did not report it, what it is illegal, or that something is "fraudulent". (chose your pick)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as Art - FL Laker Fan thought us today:

LakerTom is sick
Nile virus is one the rise
LakerTom has Nile virus

when the season starts, the real games begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and IT'S ALL ABOUT LOVE.

ask phred

"...MagicPhil is a trouble maker..."

Posted by: LEWSTRS | July 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
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Hold on there!
I'm a LOVE maker and a PEACE maker, just stir the pot sometimes, that's it...
:)

About the Fisher debate:
Kobe has in him the only coach he will ever listen to. No one can tell him to stop being selfish and expect to live afterwards. He is Kobe's ground cable. IMHO he is worth the price.
Fisher can coach Kobe, makes him happy and can make winning shots in the playoffs.
What did the Crabs to make LeGone happy? look at JonK. posts for that.


RE: Sasha

Whenever I see his name, all I can think about is something everyone who had a basketball at one time or another has done in their driveway or at the park, shooting free throws.

In your imagination, it's game 7 in the Finals, 10 seconds left, my team is ahead by 2 points, all I gotta do is sink these two free throws to win a championship...

For that alone he deserves to be on the team next year and given a chance to show what he can do in the final year of his contract.

@MAGIC PHIL, You Trouble Making, Love Making, Peace Making, Pot Stirring, Son of a gun! LMAO!

Jon K -

"My point is LeBron isn't used to ANYONE telling him "No." He's used to travelling because he's not called for it. He's used to having a say in coaching, because that's what he's done. He's used to having a say in contracts, because that's what he's done."

And you can add to that, Stern asking Lebron for permission to fine him.

Remember when James dissed the media after Orlando humiliated him the year before?

The NBA who always fines players and coaches for not talking to the media, decided they would not fine the guy. Then after a media firestorm where the NY media were asking the NBA to return past fines because of the double standard, they relented.

It was only after that Stern said he would 'fly' to Cleveland to discuss this with James. After the 'face to face' meeting, it was Stern, not Lebron, that said James was sorry, and he agreed to accept a modest fine.

I have NEVER seen an NBA player treated that way, EVER.

For all of the anti-Sasha people,

If Sasha shoots this coming season like he shoot in 2008-2009, do you
still want to trade him?

Hobbit if he shot like he did in 08-09 there will be a big HELL YES. Get a 1st rounder. He's an expiring contract anyways he'll be useful for teams that are going for the Summer of Carmelo.

I think you were referring to the 07-08 season where after the all-star break (because Trevor was injured) Kobe played SF a lot more and Sasha averaged 10ppg with 44.5% from the perimeter.

IF that is a big IF he did that in limited minutes then no and let his contract run out.

It's a big if considering the wings position is logjammed (KB might not even play SF that much this season considering the depth) and Kobe will get at least around 35mpg. That's only 15 minutes Sasha will have on average and he tried to put to much production with those same minutes.

If the Lakers really sign back Shannon Brown, the Machine's time in Los Angeles is done.

Art

For that... yes. And for the eyebrow grooming ritual..

@BRONX… Don’t mistake my support for Sasha as anything near my confidence in Drew or Kobe or even Lamar. I sure wouldn’t bet much on my hunches about Sasha. He could just as easily shoot 45% from beyond the arc and get a new contract as he could flame out and end up going back to Europe. But I do think there were positive signs at the end of the year and hitting those two free throws was very important to the Lakers winning and I think will help get Sasha’s head straightened out. And it is a contract year and if he can repeat what he did the last time he had a contract year, he will be fine.
~
Congrats on the well-deserved RCOD. I loved the insight of your comparison. Mitch DID do a superb job, especially in relation to the limitations confronting him. In the end, a solid A in my book. I hope you are right about Shannon and if we resign him, I will be rooting for him. I just don’t think the guy has the basketball IQ to be a consistent performer on this team. I also think that opinion is pretty well supported by the fact that the Lakers have NOT yet signed him and nobody else seems very interested. Even Farmar drew more attention. How do you explain that considering your lofty view of Shannon. At best, he would be the 10th man in the rotation on this squad, assuming the rookies play like rooks?
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As to Sasha peaking, I don’t think so. There are two types of players who always are in demand in this league: big men who can board and defend and anybody who can hit a high percentage of 3’s. For every one of these, there are literally a hundred “athletes” like Shannon who have talent but for some reason cannot be trusted to make smart decisions and play under control. Bottom line, we will have to just agree to disagree. Looking forward to Alex’s 600 and the Yanks getting another “A” pitcher.
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JON K… “This is what happens when you take a guy who isn't a natural leader, doesn't have the bloodthirst for victory, and tell him he's the "Greatest ever" on a daily basis for years when he hasn't even won a ring.” Perfect description of what has happened. You have to wonder how long LeBron is going to go with his posse since they have been responsible for the obvious devaluation in his brand and popularity. I think he and his posse are really going to bristle once they move to Miami and realize that it is Wade’s team and town. Remember Batman was a very rich man but not Robin.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OUCHHHHHHHH… Hey, what can I say. I was wrong about Jordan. Now I’m happy that we have Blake. But at least I’m not so overwhelmed by own self-generated frenzy that I think that Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher are the worthless jokes of players that you do. My bottom line position has been to trust the moves that the Lakers front office (Jerry & Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak) and coaching staff (Phil Jackson et al) make. If Kobe is thankful for the Spaniard and wants Fish back, that says worlds for me. That Mitch refuses to consider trading Drew and that Drew was integral to our winning the championship this year tells me that I and most of the posters on this blog are in sync with the team. Your posts basically say that the only thing you are in touch with are your miserable feelings.
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TOM

C'mon, bro. I showed a lot of "patients" with Staples24 becoming St. Pales for a while. I cannot have you become Mama B. any longer :) Posted by: EJK | July 24, 2010 at 03:03 PM

ROFLMFAO!!! WHAHAHAHHAA STOP IT! Mama B that's cool, but I, Yes I
MAMA_B24 have no Patients with these Staples24 wanna be's like ST. Pales.
hahha OH SWEET JESUS HELP ME!!!
Mamba24...Damn you got me afraid to sign my name & checking 2, 3 & even 4 times!!! lol!

It was only after that Stern said he would 'fly' to Cleveland to discuss this with James. After the 'face to face' meeting, it was Stern, not Lebron, that said James was sorry, and he agreed to accept a modest fine. I have NEVER seen an NBA player treated that way, EVER. Posted by: Fatty | July 24, 2010 at 03:26 PM

But Fatty, there has never been an NBA player like Princess Jimmy! EVER! Half Man, Half PRINCESSS! Lol!

If Sasha has another stinker year, I doubt even European squads will be seriously vying for his services, much less an NBA squad for much more than the league minimum. With the limited minutes he's likely to receive, there won't be a breakout contract year like he had last time.

Gotta love Mitch and his very carefully worded comments regarding Luke. You know dude is just itching to get him to get his back surgery and call it a season. Then he'll use the exception to sign SB at ~2.5mil, which in all honesty, is what SB is worth. Then Mitch will continue to do and say the right things about Luke being a gamer and loving the game. You know what? There are a lot of us who are gamers and love this game, we just have no business being in the NBA either.

So after a year of cat and mouse games with the league and Luke's career ending injury, the biggest mistake he made as a GM that hasn't somehow come up roses will finally be rectified. It's a foregone conclusion.

As for Luke, I don't feel bad for him. First of all he got paid a lot of money to (barely) play ball with the greatest player of his generation on the greatest franchise in professional sports. He'll probably end up moving to the coaching ranks after his "injury" situation is all sorted. And last but not least, did you see the absolute stunner he had on the bus with him during the parade? What is it with hot chicks and NBA bench warmers?

Tom -

Sorry I got you on this one. As most of the blog seems to agree, Shannon is a much better backup for Kobe than Sasha. Aside from Shan-wow's amazing dunks that demoralized our opponents on many occasions, he had three times as many steals as Sasha and even outshot him in percentage from the 3 point line. What are you smoking down there in Mill Valley? :-)

 
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