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I hear we can get Kwame Brown for cheap!
June 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM
JOE_ CORAD … No disrespect intended but do you realize that we just won the championship? Now you want to get rid of two of the cornerstones of the best front court combination in the entire league in Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum…for Mike Miller, whose stats plunged to all time lows last year, and Chris Bosh, who couldn’t even get his team into the playoffs in the weaker Eastern Conference? The strength of this team after Kobe is its great front court quartet – Drew, Pau, Ron, and Lamar.
I don’t disagree that we need as much reliable outside shooting as we can get. It’s the key to opening up the floor for Kobe and our big men but you cannot trade the major strength of this team to fulfill a lesser need. As you said the reason we won Game 7 was defense but you cannot also ignore the fact that it was rebounding that really won this series for us and the fact that we covered 48 minutes per game at center, power forward, and small forward with four players – Pau, Drew, Ron, and Lamar.
The Lakers are not going to break up the nucleus of this team, which are Kobe and the above four players, all of whom are under contract for the next few years, in order to trade for Chris Bosh, CP3, or any point guard. I still hope when push comes to shove that Jerry Buss will decide to use the MLE to sign a shooter like Korver but I can understand why he could also decide to stand pat. After all, if Drew can stay healthy, Kobe get his finger fixed, Sasha have a contract year, and Pau take off the summer, next year’s Lakers could be almost unbeatable without any major personnel changes.
June 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM
I love this team! BEST NBA TEAM OF THE DECADE!!! 5 championship rings in 7 Finals appearance!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!
BEST NBA FANS! BEST BLOG!!! SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN NEXT SEASON!
June 19, 2010 at 11:20 AM
How much fun is it to be a Laker? You can see why players hang onto their careers as long as they can.
Truth? It isn't the money, it's the hang. The real world doesn't come with a team of guys that have your back, get your jokes and want to battle with you till the end.
Guess that's on reason why all the money talk gets tedious. It's the main cog in the championship wheel, but who here wouldn't do it for free just to sit on the sidelines for a year?
June 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM
HOBBITMAGE … I did read the LAT article and you can see my response in my earlier posts. They may be right that Farmar will leave and the Lakers won’t use their MLE. I sure don’t see Steve Blake, Earl Watson, or Luke Ridnour as being better than Jordan Farmar and would be disappointed to see any of them in purple and gold. I also can understand Jerry Buss not wanting to spend the MLE and instead cutting payroll and tax by $10M by letting Amo’s contract expire. Let’s see what happens.
On the subject on trading Drew for Bosh, you might be the last proponent of such a move on the blog. I doubt even Blitz would be in favor of that now. Bosh couldn’t even get his team into the Eastern Conference playoffs and is not even a center or as good a power forward as Pau. Even a hater like Jon Barry now says that there are only two players for whom the Lakers would trade Andrew Bynum – Dwight Howard and LeBron James. I think your continual dislike for Andrew Bynum has once again caused you to misfire and shoot blanks. Bynum for Bosh? Only in Toronto’s and your wet dreams.
June 19, 2010 at 11:45 AM
You don't really break up a team that keeps winning. It's that simple. This team didn't win in spite of anybody. In won because of everybody.
The Lake Show |
June 19, 2010 at 11:51 AM
jimmy kimmel show was great! the lakers were having a blast. so fun to see the guys all loosened up after a dramatic series with boston! to all of the Lakers, enjoy your summer, relax and stay healthy, cuz we're gunning for a 3PEAT! like jon k says, "what do we play for?" RINGS BABY, RINGS!
June 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM
Hey, guys, sorry I haven't been around for more celebration, after all we've been through on this blog, we deserve it. I've been working and taking care of my dad since my mom has been out of town this weekend, so that's how that goes. I'll be around later for all the great summer trade/resigning/MLE discussion, looking forward to that, only good times for all of us, I'm sure.
A couple of things
WHOOO HOOO! WE WON! WE WON WE WON!
THE LOVE HAS BEEN WANG CHUNGING ALL NIGHT SINCE THURSDAY!
IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOVE!
June 19, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Also, I haven't had time to write a song of celebration (at least for this year) yet, so here's an oldie but a goodie from the vaults.
This is a bit long, but oh well.
“What you need to win”
Sing along to the tune of ‘Just a Friend,’ by Biz Markie
Kobe; you, you got what you need, what you say you need to win
What say you need to win,
Kobe; you, you got Pau Gasol, the guy with really good hands,
The guy with really good court vision
Kobe; you, you got Lamar Odom, the guy who can do it all,
The man doesn’t even need the ball
Kobe you, you got Drew Bynum, the guy’s only twenty two,
The guy’s a dunking fool
Let me remind how it was back in 2008
We wanted to win and we didn’t want to wait
Let me tell you the story of the situation
How Laker fans were giddy with anticipation
I guess it really started back in oh oh seven
The wolves had a gm and his name was Kevin
I guess you could imply it was a little strange
How he was still close to his friend Danny Ainge
Kobe was already not thrilled with general manager Mitch
He was even on some video, really pitching him a complaint
There was no full glass, there wasn’t rah rah rah
So when KG cranked Boston up past eleven
It wasn’t just Ron Artest who hit the fan
It was worse than the movie ‘Lucky Number Slevin’
Kobe wanted Kidd, he wanted Jermaine Oneal
If you look at Smush and Kwame, you kinda see the appeal
If they’d asked ‘Are you happy?’ Kobe’s decision had been made
“I wanna go to Chi town; can you swing a trade?’
Come on, what could they give up for you?
This is what Jerry Buss is gonna say;
Kobe; You, you got what you need, what you say you need to win,
What you say you need to win
Kobe; You, you got Four Tenths DFish, when the ball you have to dish,
With clutch threes he makes a ‘swish’
Kobe; you, you got Ron Artest, the man does it all with zest,
At tight D he is the best
Kobe you, you got Luke Walton, the man has intangible tools
The man makes people obsess like fools,
This is what it was like at the start of the season
Kobe wasn’t thrilled and the fans could see the reason
But this is just when things started to change
It was like the Big Man did some things to rearrange
When selling eye-cancer you won’t get too many takers
But because of his daughter’s tragedy Fish came home to the Lakers
Then when the team started ballin, it was kinda shocking
The Beast burst out of the little kid with the stockings
Mamba could pass to Fish or Lamar could take it down
Hand the ball the Bynum and he’d take your ass to town
Everything was working so dandy and sweet
Then a knee jerk injury knocked us all on our seat
What the hell was gonna happen, was this setback gonna shelve us?
The answer was walkin in Memphis like that song about Elvis
Did Mitch throw some panic, did Kupchak show some fear?
Nah, he’d been plotting with the Grizzlies GM for a year
It seems the Grizz owner had some bills that needed salves
Mitch said “who do want; An expiring contract with great calves?’
We’ll take a Gasol and give you one back, and even throw Javaris in
Let’s do this
Kobe; You, you got what you need; what you say you need to win,
What you say you need to win.
Kobe you, you got what you need, you got you Shannon Brown,
Youtube is his playground,
Kobe; you, you got what you need, you got some other guys,
You got some other guys
Kobe, you, you got what you need, what you say you need to win,
What you say you need to win
So was that it, were we done through dealin?
Just sit back and wait to see how Bynum was healin?
One would almost think Mitch knew what he was doin,
Still have Cook to move, let’s get another former Bruin
The rest of the year was almost sublime
Then Boston, they treated us like we were doin’ time
We weren’t done mixin, what can I say?
Drew getting hurt was becoming a cliche
We made one more trade, for Ammo and Brown
Then like House of Pain said, we came to get down
Then what happened? Don’t you know, son?
We went and took it all, Baby WE WON
So that’s it, we’re at the top we can’t get better?
Oh, snap! Guess what we did?
Oh no we didn’t, they’re havin cardiac arrest
We just went and picked up, guess who? Ron Artest
So please listen good, take this lesson to your chest
The Lakers aren’t just good, the Lakers are the best.
Posted by: phred | December 07, 2009 at 12:31 PM
June 19, 2010 at 11:55 AM
whoops, sorry for the double post, not sure why that happened. also, the link doesn't work, and i can't find one that does. Anybody who can, my undying thanks.
June 19, 2010 at 11:59 AM
I will fess up...My eyes got misty watching this...
Man I LOVE this team...
June 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM
"Even a hater like Jon Barry now says that there are only two players for whom the Lakers would trade Andrew Bynum – Dwight Howard and LeBron James."
Sounds good to me :)
I think that would be true if Drew could put a healthy season together, but as recent history shows, that's a questionnable proposition at best.
June 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Laker Tom - I have to agree with you on all points of your post. I like Korver, but not at the expense of our core players. If the team stays pretty much as is...I would, as they say in Texas Hold Em...
I'm 'ALL IN!!!'
June 19, 2010 at 12:08 PM
everyone should go listen to Artest's new song called Champion, It is actually a really good song!
June 19, 2010 at 12:29 PM
LakerTom, You're dead on point to Joe & Hobbitmage in regards to Drew, There's no need to remove key players from a Championship team. I like the ideal of Korver a great addition to what we have would only make us STRONGER. A point guard is high on my shopping list to learn and study under DFish, we know the triangle takes time. Theses two concern will bring us 2-3 more RINGS.
Peace and Blessings |
June 19, 2010 at 12:37 PM
I tought it was suposed that Kobe wasn't going to use white clothes again after the pictures... well, he is the MVP after all
June 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM
...altough i love Ron's pants
June 19, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Mbanga looked mad.
Is all this really over? Really?
This sucks. Is it Halloween yet?
June 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Sorry about the double post.
June 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Three point shooters, is Eddie House available?
June 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Phred, don't worry about the double postings. The first one was the song, the second was the encore :) I love the lyrics.
How crazy was that Kimmel Show. I gotta admit, after seing Kobe scowl and be all serious for weeks now, I'm blown away at how much fun he can be. It's nice to see the Lakers all relaxed and chillin' out after winning a well-deserved championship. Thanks MM for posting this.
June 19, 2010 at 01:06 PM
I'm not going to get in the middle of that debate on Drew. Obviously, he's still the biggest trade bait on the team, but I think in the minds of upper management, he is considered part of the core when they speak of who's signed for 3 more years. Drew, Pau, Kobe, Lamar, and Ron is essentially what they are going for.
It would be extremely uncharacteristic for a Mitch-led front office to not stay with this configuration for at least the next year. Like someone else mentioned, I think the only people that will make them think twice is Lebron and Dwight. Not sure Bosh constitutes the presence they are looking for.
June 19, 2010 at 01:08 PM
Hey KB Blitz,
You mention even though Bynum is only 22 he has been in the league 5 yrs., I don't think how long he has been in the league can account for still just having the mind and body of a 22 yr old. He's like a college grad. Agreed he said some things he probably should have held his tongue on, but I don't see that as too big of a deal. Who hasn't dome the same thing at one time or another?
You said Bynum 'guaranteed' a win against the Celts, I missed that, would like to see where he said that.
You wrote: "Jackson called it a brain fart from Bynum and did Bynum keep on saying after the Suns series similar stuff from that?
No and a big reason why is he learned to keep his mouth shut."
That's actually my point, he is learning.
"Hobbit sorry for answering for you but I think Hobbit was referring to Bynum's place as the franchise player."
I didn't claim Bynum was the franchise player, we all know Kobe is first, Pau is second.
Actually I can't recall reading posts from anyone who claims that Bynum is the teams franchise player or that Bynum is the #1 option on this team or that he rules the offense or the defense. Maybe I missed those posts.
I do think he is a key player who has had and can have a significant impact both offensively and defensively.
I will ask you the same thing I asked hobbit.
Right now, would you really trade Drew for Bosh or any other center that's a realistic trade?
Of course, I wouldn't.
"Don't me wrong Bynum is a great player. Neither me or Hobbitmage says he "sucks"."
Well good, then it appears, to me anyway, that we all agree on that point.
Art - FL Laker Fan |
June 19, 2010 at 01:14 PM
"I doubt even Blitz would be in favor of that now. Bosh couldn’t even get his team into the Eastern Conference playoffs and is not even a center or as good a power forward as Pau. "
I'm so and so on such a deal Laker Tom since I recognize both the pros and cons of such a trade though that does beg the question:
If Bynum were to be traded would HE be the one who would miss the playoffs and be called the stat jacker instead in Toronto?
You know he would have a HELL lot more responsibilities as the go to guy in Toronto in contrast of being a spoon fed boy where he doesn't need to set up the defense or lead.
As the finals once again proved (this time against the Celtics no less) that Bynum doesn't need to be averaging 20 and 10 for the Lakers to win the title. Oh wait he averaged 7.4ppg and 5.1rpg injured so he's not a required piece is he? But wasn't he supposed to average 18.6ppg, 11.6rpg, 3.7apg, 2.6blks? Oh wait I forget wasn't Pau who supposedly can't average those against numbers against a physical brute force like Boston? (Remember save for Game 2 Pau mostly played center).
Shows who is the real franchise big man of the Lakers (not I did not say franchise player I said franchise big man since we all know who our go to guy is).
KB Blitz |
June 19, 2010 at 01:14 PM
The suggestion that Pau Gasol is the Lakers long term answer at center is just ridiculous. It is no coincidence that Pau's best regular season occurred during a year where he had the chance to play power forward as his primary position. Pau destroys opposing PF's because he is the best PF in the game. As a center, however, he has limitations. A strong and defensive minded center like Perkins can easily move Pau off his preferred spot on the low post, and that greatly (and adversely) affects his production.
What the Lakers have in Bynum and Gasol is something that no team in recent memory (and perhaps no team ever) has had: two legitimate seven footers, playing together, both at an all star level. Trading Bynum for Bosh would leave the Lakers with two power forwards starting together. Why on earth would anyone consider this?
Of course, what the basketball geniuses on this blog who advocate such a move fail to understand is that the Laker front office has not and will not consider a move like that, because they understand what they have in Andrew Bynum: the best young center in the NBA, and a guy whose coachability and work ethic is superior to Dwight Howard's, as evidenced by Andrew's FAR superior footwork and free throw shooting--two things that virtually no big man comes into the NBA with, and which have to be learned. That Andrew is already better than Howard in these two areas just speaks to his work ethic.
June 19, 2010 at 01:25 PM
After all, if Drew can stay healthy, Kobe get his finger fixed, Sasha have a contract year, and Pau take off the summer, next year’s Lakers could be almost unbeatable without any major personnel changes.
Posted by: LakerTom | June 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM
I think that's an excellent point.
I would add Kobes knee repair also.
And we should remember Pau was injured and out how many games?
While they will have their lulls during the long, grinding season and lose games that make us all crazy, barring injury the Lakers should be the clear favorites to win it all again.
And I think it's possible the Celts could be right back there too depending on players they resign and/or keep. Even if Wallace retires and they are a year older, look at the rest of the east. Depends on how and where all the free agent signings go.
The Celts should really make a play for Labron.
Yes, I still hate them with a passion, just sayin'...
Art - FL Laker Fan |
June 19, 2010 at 01:26 PM
Maybe Mitch could sucker Utah into sign/trading Korver for Luke.
After all, doesn't Utah have some sort of 50% white player minimum for their squad? I know Boston used to until they figured out they had to sell out their racist ideals to chase a championship.
June 19, 2010 at 01:42 PM
Kobe, Gasol, Bynum & Artest plus Fisher are the key components for the repeat in 2010. We want everybody to re-sign but we also have to address the realities of the competition. Like last year, people loved Ariza but Artest is much better choice so that is how the 2010-11 season has to decided. It is based core group, speed, youth and less money would be the attraction of the Lakers. Any player with a marquee name would be willing to sign for MLE, you're most welcome. Any team who needs to get veterans and wanted to trade, they too are most welcome provided the core group is preserved. Let us eliminate the remnants of the scrubs and get sharp shooters and willing to help the Lakers to get trifecta.
Shannon Brown will be crazy to opt out with the opportunities open to him in the future as #2 or reserve PG. Don't follow the Turiaf path which led to nowhere.
Edwin Gueco |
June 19, 2010 at 01:47 PM
when everyone speaks about the 'repairs' we need to make, i.e., Kobe's finger, knee, Bynum's knee, etc, we also need to remember that that was Ron Artests first year, and he was no where near ready from the get-go.
He lost 20 pounds and added muscle. If could stay focused along side Kobe this summer, they could be the most formidable perimeter defense since Pippen and Jordan.
June 19, 2010 at 01:51 PM
ONLY A FAN WITH KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF BB WOULD SUGGEST BYNUM FOR BOSH...
Besides why would someone want Bosh when we have Pau a proven entity and a cog... so please stop dreaming and step outside the box.
Bosh has not proven anything beyond talent for gimmick self promotion with home made video..
In Shaq own words he is a clone of Rupaul..
June 19, 2010 at 02:02 PM
I WOULD GUARANTEE THREE PEAT WITH HEALTHY BYNUM
June 19, 2010 at 02:03 PM
What is the plan of the Lakers Blog crew for the parade? This is another opportunity of meeting at LAT. We talked about during the off season now what are the plans? It should come from Marc Medina, so far we have not heard anything personal from MM, it's all about the blog, the blog, the blog.
We talked the talk, now it's time to walk the walk. It is about giving back. Treat your bloggers as humans not just a mere linkages for further business ventures. Before the existence of the KBros, Mike James and Marc Medina First, there were the Laker fans in the sixties without any social medium except chick and the forum; Second, there is Chick Hearn era who treated these fans with utmost respect in educating them about the game; Third, we have the team that gave us excellence to compete as an alternative to the Celtics domination. Lastly, in the last five years the Laker fans proved that their passion can propel this blog to popularity. It could have died with Kwame and Smush, it could have died with Jimbo and Cupcake but no we move on and moved on strongly.
On Monday, it is time to celebrate in honor of these Laker fans. They are not just a shoo away of mob rule or troublesome fanatics who have no life. You got to reward your bloggers but organizing a fruitful meeting at LAT or somewhere at USC.
Edwin Gueco |
June 19, 2010 at 02:03 PM
Were you not invited to blog party thrown by Hobbit and Kblitz, oh wait you are not a Kobe fan, sorry.
June 19, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Yes, the Lakers just won a championship. Look at the numbers. Instead of losing Lebron, what about a sign and trade for Bynum and Odom? I question if there is a better deal out there. Better to get something than losing LJ for nothing. You don't think LJ would like to come to LA (Lakers)? Getting Lebron in a Laker uniform playing with Kobe and Pau doesn't perk your interest?
June 19, 2010 at 02:30 PM
Posted by: KNOWLEDGE | June 19, 2010 at 02:09 PM
C'mon Knowledge, stop the intrigue in favoring one player vs. another, a blogger over another. we are all Laker fans in this blog. We just won the Championship, we don't need any divisions. I don't know much about your handle that well so I could not give you a straight answer.
Edwin Gueco |
June 19, 2010 at 03:31 PM
Good NYT article on Mike Procopio, who did scouting reports for Kobe on the Celtics. Kobe gave him a shout-out in the post-game interview, calling him "my Mike Bauer". The kicker: He grew up in Boston as a Celtics fan.
That's okay since the Lakers have their own Benedict Arnold: Paul "I always wanted to win a championship for the Lakers" Pierce
June 19, 2010 at 05:51 PM
Thanks MM for posting the video. I missed it, AND forgot to set the DVR!
June 19, 2010 at 06:42 PM
What a great show with most of the Lakers. Very cool and funny stuff.
Magic said he'd contribute monetarily to get Phil to come back for another year. How about we get 100,000 Lakers fans to commit a minimum of $50-$100 cash so the Lakers can go after a shooter like Korver and a guard who can play D.
How could you possibly play defense vs. the Lakers with Pau and Bynum down low and Kobe and Korver on the perimeter for 20 mins. a game?
I like Bynum, but does anyone really believe he can play more than 60 games a season? I don't. In fact I think by his physical make-up he'll ALWAYS be injury prone and 60 games a year would actually be a good year.
June 20, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Vman -- great comment. These guys seem to truly enjoy each other's company (of course, a championship will do that). You wonder if when it comes to inter-team discipline -- Kobe is bad cop and Derrick good cop ... what a great show -- "Morrison looks like a 70s porn star" ...
Big Bomb |
June 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Lakers heal your injuries this summer. It is all you need to defend your title next year.
June 20, 2010 at 02:29 PM
I am so glad I am fan of the best team in all of sports and in the history of basketball, my dear Lakers! We have the best coach, the best player, the best team and best fans of all sports! Oh and the best blog! I love laker nation! Go Lake Show you rock! Laker for Life! Fan for over 25 years of winning! See everyone next season for threepeat! Those who can go to parade enjoy wish I could be there!
June 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM
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