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Lakers' Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher and Shannon Brown discuss 103-94 Game 2 loss to Boston Celtics

Lakers center Andrew Bynum

Lakers forward Ron Artest

Lakers forward Lamar Odom

Lakers guard Derek Fisher

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SWEEPS ARE RARE ~ PANIC IS NOT . . .

In the 63 years of NBA Finals, there have only been 8 sweeps. It doesn't happen very often. No need to panic. (That's why Game 3 is almost always consider a critical game BEFORE the series ever starts. Unbelievable how many times the series is 2-1 following Game 3, and a big advantage at that point.)

To all my fellow Laker lovers who are frustrated (as am I) by the officiating. Let me draw a couple of things to your attention.

1. There were a handful of calls made and another handful NOT made that will have the crew shaking their heads when they watch video replay. Bad calls for sure. But, those calls went against both teams. By my analysis, all but two of the 14 bad calls/noncalls were due to ANTICIPATION of what was about to happen.

2. Pierce did not foul Artest on that steal/breakaway. Kobe did not foul Rondo on the fall out of bounds. Davis did not foul Bynum on the blocked dunk attempt. Odom did not foul Rondo from behind on Fisher steal. Blah,,, blah,,, blah... Notice that BOTH TEAMS got hit by the ANTICIPATION calls.

3. Final thought, which is difficult to admit and all to painfully obvious. Five minutes to go and a 3 point lead. Hard to find any significant calls by the refs during the final five minutes. That final push by the Celtics was not catapulted into orbit by bad calls/noncalls. It was the same bad habits that the Lakers have displayed all season. It has cost them games at times. It cost them last night.

If this team has shown us anything over the year (and last year, too) is that it can recover from bad stretches of play. Expect nothing less to happen as the series moves to Boston.

By the way, do NOT let it be lost amongst the record flame-throwing, 3-point shooting of Allen or the scrappy triple-double of Rondo. Boston Bigs struggled and will continue to struggle against the Lakers. The mismatch is obvious. And, we all know where the series-long advantage goes when an INSIDE Team plays and OUTSIDE Team.

Mike

A few days ago I stated that the odds of the Ceptics winning game 2 were HIGHER than I previously thought and the odds of the Ceptics winning game 3 were LOWER than I previously thought.

Game 3 will still be a challenge, but it's one that I feel can be tackled. Game 4 should be the easiest road game of the bunch and by game 5 the Lakers will understand the Ceptics fully.

I already penciled in at least one road win for the Lakers before the series started (and hoped for 2 while holding court), but now, just hoping for 2 road wins. I think it's very possible.

Last night the Celtics played that first half BRILLIANTLY.

Whoever Derek was guarding, they attacked with that man. This meant Ray Allen getting hot, and when Kobe switched over, Rondo went to work.

I thought the Lakers adjusted in the second half perfectly: make Ray Allen do something OTHER THAN that shoot. Either make him curl (which they never did) or switch out the screens and make him pass or drive. That's not his game, so I love that adjustment.

The Celtics DO FOUL A WHOLE LOT. There will be some home cookin' in Boston, but I don't anticipate a foul discrepancy like we saw during the PHX series. I also don't anticipate another game where bad calls are so obviously made: (ie, ball CLEARLY goes off Garnett on the challenge, and yet they still call it off Gasol)... Kobe in foul trouble because a flop when it should have been two points, etc.

Now that I've seen Boston for two games and we took their best shot and fell down, I'm terribly scared. These guys are less athletic than OKC and have the ability to light you up from the outside like PHX - they're somewhere in between, and mind you, we came very close to losing one of the first two at home verses OKC.

The Orlando Magic, IMO, illustrated some weaknesses of Boston. You may not want to admit this, but Orlando came fairly close to doing the unthinkable in getting that series to go to 7. We're far superior than Orlando.

I don't see the 47-0 streak ending this time around.

Now, if the Lakers lay an egg in the next two (Kobe will go off for 60 before he lets this happen), then I'll be scared. Hell, I'll even bump the odds to 50/50 if the Lakers lose game 3. If the Lakers win game 3, then my opinion hasn't changed at all and this will end in 6 games or less.

^^^"I'm terribly scared"

Freudian slip? No, a typo... I'm NOT terribly scared

Great post LakerMIKE. Loved it.

Tim4Show -

Glad that was a typo!

I share your view. I'm not terribly scared, either. I did think from the get go that the Lakers would protect home court these games. Sadly they didn't. But I'm not worried like I was in '08, either. The Lakers can get this done. Boston is taking notice and knows that we will fight hard.

And when's the last time in recent years you saw Kobe come that close to fouling out? Ridiculous. He get's four with regularity in the playoffs, but 5? Thought that was a terrible call when they called him pushing Rondo out out bounds.

GO LAKERS!

Hand down = Man down

LET THE GAMES BEGIN...

Please save your rants and anger towards the players and just sit back and let the destiny unfold itself. There is nothing you can do to change the outcome except raise your blood pressure on a lost cause.

Game 3 will be the defining game and I expect Lakers to regroup under the tutelage of Zen Master and come back with a renewed focus and a win.


^^^"I'm terribly scared"

Freudian slip? No, a typo... I'm NOT terribly scared

Posted by: Tim-4-Show | June 07, 2010 at 08:23 AM

And well you should be!

LakerMIKE,

Excellent post. I'm in agreement with you in that the bad calls went both ways. I felt it hurt the Lakers having to take Kobe out for half the third quarter (we held ground, but could have created a lead instead).

And yep, no excuse to break down the final minutes on your HOME court. I don't think it will, but that sort of blunder can be looked back as series changing (Lakers losing game 4 in 2008)

I'm not happy about the game, I think the reffing was horrible, but ultimately, I think this series is very winnable.
My odds:
Lakers in 5 10%
Lakers in 6 40%
Lakers in 7 30%
Celtics win 20%

If the Lakers win/lose game three, obviously I alter those odds substantially.

And yes, game 3 was already pivotal before the series began... and it didn't matter who won game 2. 1-1 or 2-0, that game three is huge.

MM- When do you fly out for Boston?

Any word on Bynums knee? He played 39 minutes and only has 1 day off, that can't be good.

GOOD MORNING MY LAKERHOLICS!!!

For that lingering HANGOVER that you're feeling, just take 2 Advil and a hardy "EFF YOU REFS!!" and you should feel like a Brand New fan come Game 3.

Alright, realistically, we all knew this wasn't gonna be the cakewalk we would have hoped for and that the Celts were gonna bring it in one way or the other.

Ray Allen shot LIGHTS OUT, heck even his misses were too close for comfort, well, except for that one air-ball. But it's a FACT that he is a streak shooter and like Odom coming to play, you can't count on that for every game.

We knew Rondo was gonna give us fits, WE KNEW THIS. They just gotta do a better job at getting in front of him (Looking at you Fish!) and cutting off both his ability to get to the rim cleanly and his passing angles... You disrupt both as they did in Game 1 and he doesn't play very smart.

Pau and Bynum played EXCELLENT with more emphasis on Bynum's play... WOW!! VERY IMPRESSIVE.

Hello ODOM... are you there Lamar? You do realize that this is the FINALS?!? if you ever wanna eat chips and guacamole out of the Larry O'Brien trophy again you have to WIN it and to WIN it you have to PLAAYYY!!!!!!!

And finally you have to give it up to the STELLAR defense of the REFS on KOBE... The ONLY way you can take Kobe outta the game, well, is to literally take him outta the game.

LAKERS WILL BOUNCE BACK AND BRING IT IN GAME 3!!!!!!!!!!

LAKERS IN 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The short rest should favor the Lakers.

Kobe will be as fresh as can be. Rondo played a whole lot of minutes.

Yeah, Bynum is something to worry about, but *hopefully* he's had a boost of courage from this game and knows, without doubt, that he can successfully play to help us win 2/3 in Boston.

And I should be scared?

Not yet. If the Lakers drop the next 2, then I'm most definitely scared, and if they drop the next one, I'm 50/50.

What I worry about in Boston for game 3:
Refs (but can it get worse?)
Role Players

That's pretty much it.

They don't have a huge amount of time to figure out how they want to counter the Lakers switching out Ray Allen screens forcing him to be a passer or driver - and thus, game 3 is very winnable. Plus, they'll be as jet lagged as the Lakers.

GOOD MORNING MY LAKERHOLICS!!!

For that lingering HANGOVER that you're feeling, just take 2 Advil and a hardy "EFF YOU REFS!!" and you should feel like a Brand New fan come Game 3. And finally you have to give it up to the STELLAR defense of the REFS on KOBE... The ONLY way you can take Kobe outta the game, well, is to literally take him outta the game. LAKERS WILL BOUNCE BACK AND BRING IT IN GAME 3!!!!!!!!!! LAKERS IN 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | June 07, 2010 at 08:40 AM
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Now that was a Freakin MASTERPIECE. Thank you HalosAnt whenver I have a letdown I now know what to do...Go see HalosAnt. Oh by the way...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!!
mAMBA24

And finally you have to give it up to the STELLAR defense of the REFS on KOBE... The ONLY way you can take Kobe outta the game, well, is to literally take him outta the game.

LAKERS WILL BOUNCE BACK AND BRING IT IN GAME 3!!!!!!!!!!

LAKERS IN 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: HalosAnt | June 07, 2010 at 08:40 AM

Excellent Post!!!

@LAKERMI9KE & TIM-4-SHOW. Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!
Flawless Logic, Remedies for depression from HalosAnt, DANG!!! I'm good to go now!!!!! THANKS!! OH...OUT FREAKIN STANDING GENTLEMAN!!
mAMBA24

This loss might just propel us to the championship. we go up 2-0, we might go in to Boston way too cocky, get ripped apart the next two games and be back on our heels. maybe lose game 3 too.

lots of valuable lessons to be learned from this game.

Guard Ray Allen at all times, no need to sag off him to help anyone (SHANNON, WAKE THE F UP!!!).

Box out Rondo and get the long rebounds.

Pound it in to the bigs at the beginning of the game, in the middle of the game and AT THE END OF THE GAME. Kobe watching is for the last 30 seconds only.

If we keep doing everything else and add those three maxims, I think we are the eventual victors. One side note, when you think about it, Celtics winning the series would be one of the most dramatic upsets I can really think of. We are clearly the team with more talent and have the mental strengthto get it done. We must seize destiny!

I know that the DFish poster is not a Lakers fan, but you have to admit, the guy is right around 80% of the time.

Derek's weaknesses were exposed last night, and if he's not knocking down shots to the tune of say 25-20 points, then he's a massive liability [if and only if] the opposing team is taking to him (which the Celts were last night).

So, Derek, man up and show up next game. If you can't box out, tell PJ that if you don't box out, take you out.

Seemed to work in the OKC series, do it again.

This game will be known as the Kenny Maeur Vendetta.

#41 needs to be pulled from officiating and investigated. I'm not kidding. Re-watch the game and watch how many calls he makes in favor of the Celts. It's something like 90%.

It takes a ref with an obvious personal agenda and Allen and Rondo to play out of their minds for Boston to barely win.

Lakers in 6.

I am officially on Andrew Bynum's jock!
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LakerTom be proud...THE BEAST HAS ARISEN. Yeah we lost, but the way AB played made me absolutely proud. AB & Pau in the paint + Kobe out of foul trouble = Lakers in 6!

Stop Crying about the Refs calls, in Game 1 the Lakers Raon Ar-Pest went right after Paul Pierce and as Pierce TRIED to get away from the walking hemorrhoid ,He got a Tech as well, though I will admit the Refs in the Finals are Not that Great, and the fish man and Lamar Kardashian are Faker LA's when it comes to Boston, last year they had no problem taking out the Magic, this year they HAVE to go the length to beat the Boston Celtics' as Rondo and Ray Allen took control of the court and the crowd how can you sit there and NOT give the Celtics their due for last nights game? Fisher is not that great of a point guard; he does not get the plays in the paint fast enough, he just looks for calls on opposing players because he plays for LA.
Lamar disappeared last night yet did get his pay, and what was up with Gasol>? yet alone kobe bean? he got the calls he needed and also got the fouls he deserved. If you LA press pass folks want to spin this then get it right, the Celtics were NOT going to lose last night yet the Fakers didn't do much after the 3rd quarter

This loss might just propel us to the championship. we go up 2-0, we might go in to Boston way too cocky, get ripped apart the next two games and be back on our heels. maybe lose game 3 too. lots of valuable lessons to be learned from this game. Posted by: dwntwn atty | June 07, 2010 at 08:
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DWNTWN ATTY You make some great points sir. OUTSTANDING POST!
MAMBA24

Okay.

Gotta pull this out somehow.

With the pain of a loss that we should have avoided, because at 2.40 from the end we were up of 1.

And we were there out from a game not well played by us, while the Celtics had it all right (beside the lost Garnett... which is actually my personal concern for Game 3...)

We should have not lost momentum.

Sure... that turned out ugly from the insane call of Celtics ball out of Pau and Kevin contested exit ball (INSANE that referees didn't change decision after the replay...), and out of Rajon Rondo's steals and drive (admirable, and devilish... if he weren't a green enemy, I could have cheered his game), and MOSTLY out of the genius (I have to give him props for that) Doc Rivers' breakin of the 8 seconds with his time out inside field calling (that generated another 3 pointer for the Celtics, propelling them at plus 6).

But still.

We should have not let this one go.

Referees have been a medium factor, but all in all we would be wrong in thinking they decided the game.

We had a LOT of FT.
Sure calling KObe's fouls that stupid and miopic way affected us but the team in the third did an excellent job without him.

What made us LOSE was the poor shooting from perimeter, some insane choices offensively of Ron, the worrying MIA state of Lamar, and THE LACK OF REBOUNDS.

We won game one out of rebounds and second shooting.

We lost the second for the same reason, MISSING that fuundamental part of the game.

What comforts me is that we were this close to win in a game played not as a team, and played just in half of the game.

What comforts me is that with Kobe (that made us alive again in some INCREDIBLE driven magics out from the second quarter and into the third) anything is possible; what makes me happy is that Drew was Man Of The Game (best game ever from him, overhall so dedicated and efficacious and full of caharacter) and that Pau's maturity is there to create perfection on court.

Once the rest will get back realizing THIS IS A BATTLE and we need a total focus, we have them still.

Homecourt doesn't matter: teh last 3 games at Boston Garden were OURS.
I'm not afraid.

I'm just angry because we could have got this no matter the INCREDIBLE performance of Allen and the undeniable talent (and octopus arm extension) of Rajon Rondo.

We are still by far a better team.

But again we fell into easyness and complacency and this time I hope we realized we can resurface from that with many teams, but not against Celtics.

When I was calling for respect to them.. meant exactly that.

Playing them dead made them stronger.

But now they unleashed back the revenge dragon.

And that dragon will burn them in TD Banknorth.

I still completely confident in this series.

Not stepping a step behind.

It's us in 6.

STILL.

Later Laker Fam.

Tomorrow I'll be intro the game after charging batteries watching MUse live in San Siro.

Resistance!!!!

We will get this ring.

Don't stop believe.
Don't.

;)

I know I shouldn't do it and that I have my scroll wheel to get me past them, but like some DEMENTED & WARPED magnet my eyes are always drawn to those STUPID posts and I ask you...

Why does reading posts by ricky feel like drinking a Slurpee too fast...

It makes my BRAIN HURT!!!!!!!!

If we knock their front teeth out in Game 3...Then what!!!!??

That's my bandwagon.

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WE “STILL” GOT THIS – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –CO/OWNER
(02) PHRED CO/OWNER
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – I’m in it for the long haul Why? Cause WE GOT THIS!
(04) #4 - No worries...it took a Ray Allen on fire and foul trouble on all of starting perimeter defenders to get a win for them. The Uglies at the Fleet TD North whatever aren't going to know what hit them, lol.
(05) FISTER – SECURITY - the Lakers will be fine. Not only will they win the series repeat as Champions, they'll wish the Celtics ever humiliated them in the finals like this and before. Lakers now and all the way. WE GOT THIS!!

I know I shouldn't do it and that I have my scroll wheel to get me past them, but like some DEMENTED & WARPED magnet my eyes are always drawn to those STUPID posts and I ask you...
Why does reading posts by ricky feel like drinking a Slurpee too fast...It makes my BRAIN HURT!!!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | June 07, 2010 at 09:04
ROFLMFAO!!!! PREACH HALOSANT PREACH HAHAHAHHAHAH!!!

Mamba please put my on the WE STILL GOT THIS bandwagon! One loss is needed, the Lakers need to feel the pain of 2008 again to get them all worked up and play with intensity. focus. heart.

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IF WE KNOCK THEIR FRONT TEETH OUT IN GAME 3...Then what!!!!?? - BANDWAGON
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(01) DWNTWN ATTY - OWMNER - If we knock their front teeth out in Game 3...Then what!!!!?? That's my bandwagon.
(02) MAMBA24 - Shoot I love driving this bad boy lets' go
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(04)

@J24, I hear you sister!!

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WE “STILL” GOT THIS!!! - THE SLEEPER IS AWAKEN – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –CO/OWNER
(02) PHRED CO/OWNER
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – I’m in it for the long haul Why? Cause WE GOT THIS!
(04) #4 - No worries...it took a Ray Allen on fire and foul trouble on all of starting perimeter defenders to get a win for them. The Uglies at the Fleet TD North whatever aren't going to know what hit them, lol.
(05) FISTER – SECURITY - the Lakers will be fine. Not only will they win the series repeat as Champions, they'll wish the Celtics ever humiliated them in the finals like this and before. Lakers now and all the way. WE GOT THIS!!
(06) J24 - Put my on the WE STILL GOT THIS bandwagon! One loss is needed, the Lakers need to feel the pain of 2008 again to get them all worked up and play with intensity. focus. heart.
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Mamba24: If there's any decency left in this Blog, you need to start a DON'T BLAME THE REFS Bandwagon. These Chicken Little fairweather "Laker" fans are embarrassing. Don't blame the refs for LO's disappearance, Ron Ron's bad shooting & Kobe's 8 for 20.
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The refs didn't lose this game. WE DID! Let us pray that they suck it up, study the film & make the adjustments necessary. 2 out of 3 in Boston is entirely possible.
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And let us also continue to pray that Andrew continues to press on despite the pain in his knee. As I said earlier, his new found integrity & focus is making a believer out of me!

Mamba24: If there's any decency left in this Blog, you need to start a DON'T BLAME THE REFS Bandwagon. These Chicken Little fairweather "Laker" fans are embarrassing. Don't blame the refs for LO's disappearance, Ron Ron's bad shooting & Kobe's 8 for 20.
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The refs didn't lose this game. WE DID! Let us pray that they suck it up, study the film & make the adjustments necessary. 2 out of 3 in Boston is entirely possible.
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And let us also continue to pray that Andrew continues to press on despite the pain in his knee. As I said earlier, his new found integrity & focus is making a believer out of me!Posted by: utzworld - the ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER | June 07, 2010 at 09:2
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TELL IT utzworld THE BANNER HIOLDER

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WE “STILL” GOT THIS!!! – REFS DIDN’T STEAL IT –WE GOTTA WANT IT - BANDWAGON
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(00) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - CHAPLAIN - These Chicken Little fairweather "Laker" fans are embarrassing. Don't blame the refs for LO's disappearance, Ron Ron's bad shooting & Kobe's 8 for 20. *
The refs didn't lose this game. WE DID! Let us pray that they suck it up, study the film & make the adjustments necessary. 2 out of 3 in Boston is entirely possible. And let us also continue to pray that Andrew continues to press on despite the pain in his knee. As I said earlier, his new found integrity & focus is making a believer out of me!
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –CO/OWNER – OH YEAH WE STILL GOT THIS
(02) PHRED - CO/OWNER
(03) LETS GO L’S’ – DRIVER - Like I've said all along, there will be NO cakewalk in winning the title from both parties. Believe me, Boston knows this and so do we, after last night's loss. It's ON! OK, here's a wakeup shot...If the possibility of losing to the Boston Celtics is the ONE thing driving fear into our hearts and breaking our confidence in our team as TRUE fans, here's the LARGER picture. Tell me a team, injuries, ADVERSITY and all, that has made it to the Finals 3 CONSECUTIVE years since the three-peat Lakers of 2000-2002... Also, tell me a team that was humbled the previous year to these very Celtics in 2008 and BOUNCED back and win it all the FOLLOWING year in 2009 vs the Celtics ouster called the Magic...Folks, if you ask me, our Lakers have given us a heck of a ride thus far in 2010, and not over YET by any stretch of the imagination. For petes sake, it's 1-1 As for the current state of affairs, I expect the Lakers to give Boston a run for their money the next three games, with a return trip back to LA for a chance to win it ALL. Gotta BELIEVE folks. WE GOT THIS
(04) #4 - No worries...it took a Ray Allen on fire and foul trouble on all of starting perimeter defenders to get a win for them. The Uglies at the Fleet TD North whatever aren't going to know what hit them.
(05) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – I’m in it for the long haul Why? Cause WE GOT THIS!
(06 FISTER – SECURITY - the Lakers will be fine. Not only will they win the series repeat as Champions, they'll wish the Celtics ever humiliated them in the finals like this and before. Lakers now and all the way. WE GOT THIS!!
(07) J24 - Put my on the WE STILL GOT THIS bandwagon! One loss is needed, the Lakers need to feel the pain of 2008 again to get them all worked up and play with intensity. focus. heart. WE STILL GOT THIS
(10) KARMANIAC - Now we need to kill them in Boston... and this will happen. WE STILL GOT THIS
(11) DWNTWNATTY - Get back in your holes trolls. I like the math here for the Lakers. Kobe bottled up with "fouls" the whole game. Ray Allen goes historic for a quarter (but quiets down after we FINALLY adjust - -side note, that time he flopped and Kobe got called for a foul, there was a head collision and Ray's mouth was

Guys, I've been over all this time and time again. I've analyzed, reviewed, everything. If you take everything into consideration, I still say the Lakers will win this series.

In 2008, I straight out knew the Celtics was the better team. This year, the Lakers are superior in the key ways.

The key here is the PRIOR PLAYOFF SERIES, especially the Suns series.

People talk about Rondo. Screw Rondo. We've dealt with fast, effective guards the entire playoffs, and we've always come out shining. If we can handle the Suns' Nash (or the Jazz's Williams), we can deal with Rondo.

I also don't give a damn about Allen. Again, I refer to the Suns series. Collectively, we had to endure many more 3 point shots than what we'll get from Allen, so that is not the issue.

The ONLY reason for why we lost yesterday was because we didnt' shoot the ball well in the 1st half. The Lakers are locked in to playing quality defense. Other things helped us earn the loss; particularly not getting key rebounds and loose balls. Bbut this was the primary reason for why we lost was poor 1st half shooting.

The Suns scared me much more than the Celtics. Think about it. Nash is a better passer and shooter, 3 point and otherwise, than Rondo. Amare, Hill, and the other guy I can remember his name are better mid/short range shooters than anything the Celts can throw at us. The Suns were faster and focused...and yet we still beat them.

THIS, to me, is the key here.

Lets give Phil, Kobe, and the Lakers their time to "figure it all out". Around game 3/4, all the significant adjustments either team can possibly make will have been made. When that occurs, it's mano y mano, and I truly believe the Lakers have superior players.

Remember, we SHOULD have won yesterday. And we BEAT the Suns, whom are superior to the Celtics.

There are ONLY 2 ways the Lakers lose this series ; injury, or cold shooting. Cold shooting got us game 2.

Will it happen again? That is the only thing worrying me right now.

Ray Allen's performance was, dare I say it, Jordan-esque.

Lakers in 5!!!

You cannot stop Dunknasty, you have no answer.

Laker fans, we will never die, just multiply!

I'm with MAMBA on this one...We Got this.

Mamba24,

I'm on record this morning as Lakers in 6. I think that qualifies me for the band wagon.

I'm also on the record standing side by side with Utzworld, saying don't blame the refs.

Interesting that all the overnight posts are always doom and gloom, and then ECJ, Tim-4-Show, HalosAnt and others confirm that voices of reason ultimately prevail here.

I'll say it one more time. Avenging the 2008 humiliation is not an automatic. The Celtics are a worthy opponent. When the Lakers stay focused and execute they can repeat as Champions. The focus and execution dissembled in the last five minutes of Game 2. The team can restore home court advantage on the road. Lakers in 6.

Troy: "Remember, we SHOULD have won yesterday."
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CO-SIGN 100%!

From the mouth of Paula Pierce "We Ain't coming back to L.A." to Kobe's ears. Now that is motivatin!!!! Paula has a short memory when he said that to Orlando

Predictable loss.

We answer and get game 3 and 4.

Why does Bynum sound like the smartest guy in the room right now? Nice game by him. Somebody drop LO a twitter DM and tell him the Finals started without him. Meet them in Boston.

Will it happen again? That is the only thing worrying me right now.

Posted by: troy | June 07, 2010 at 09:38 AM

Nothing to worry about. Excellent Post!!!

BUTLER,

>>>Ray Allen's performance was, dare I say it, Jordan-esque.

Once again displaying your complete ignorance of the history of the NBA.

Michael Jordan was a terrible 3-point shooter. His career average for shooting 3-pointers in the playoffs was 33%.

If you had one scrap of knowledge, you would have said Reggie-Miller-esqe, or perhaps Steve-Kerr-esqe (if you wanted to suck up to your team's GM).

Ign'nt, ign'nt, ign'nt.

Troy / FEARless,

Great posts from last thread, thanks for intelligent analysis.

One concern I have regarding the fouls, particularly on Odom -- Bynum and Gasol logging heavy minutes. Both looked dead at times in 3rd and 4th quarters. Phil may have to consider different options -- Powell/Mbenga or perhaps even a different offensive approach for short periods (go small).

I'm with MAMBA on this one...We Got this. Posted by: troy | June 07, 2010 at 09:41 AM
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! The LakersBlog is ready to ride right thu the GAHDEN and then back to Staples for our championship. WHO'S WITH ME AND TROY!!! STAND UP!!
PEOPLE!! PEOPLE!! WE STILL GOT THIS!!!

I'm with MAMBA on this one...We Got this. Posted by: troy | June 07, 2010 at 09:41 AM
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! The LakersBlog is ready to ride right thu the GAHDEN and then back to Staples for our championship. WHO'S WITH ME AND TROY!!! STAND UP!!
PEOPLE!! PEOPLE!! WE STILL GOT THIS!!!

Good Morning, Laker Nation!

After throwing various things about my living room and drowning my sorrows with sophisticated adult beverages, I have awoken to share some early thoughts with you...

1. I was worried before the game because all my fellow Lakeraholics seemed too caviller about the game. Lets face it: The Celtics are a very good veteran team. They're not going to just "go away." Fans were talking with an attitude like the series was already over. It's not over yet.

2. The Lakers defense in Game One was fantastic. The Lakers defense in Game Two was not nearly as disciplined.

3. Farmar played like crap. Too often we played with more energy than intellect. I thought we should have tried to slow the game down and be methodical on offense, instead we seemed to attack the basket in an uncontrolled fashion without utilizing sufficient ball movement to create the best high percentage shot.

4. Last night was also one of those nights where a lot of good shots just didn't go in. They ALMOST went in, but just didn't go in. I assume that is a component of mental focus. Please see point #1.

5. When those toolbags on ABC say approximately six or seven times, "That's not a foul," you know the the refereeing is terrible. When with 1:57 seconds left the ball OBVIOUSLY went off Kevin Garnett and instant replay CLEARLY showed IN SLOW MOTION that Garnett PALMED the ball out of bounds, how did the refs rule? Out of bounds on Lakers. How? Seriously? HOW? That possession was huge and it gave the Celtics momentum in the last two minutes that ultimately won the game for them. All Lakeraholics know there is an anti-Lakers bias among refs in the league, but you'd think that Darth Stern wouldn't make it so completely obvious on the Lakers home court. Just sickening.

6. I'm very tired of refs returning so much attention to themselves during the playoffs. It's like they each have a little bit of LeBron James in them and are starved for attention even as they gourge themselves within the spotlight. Annoying. I'd really rather watch basketball than a bunch of toolbags in striped shirts blowing whistles.

7. My fellow Lakeraholics, much like a game in the Houston series last year, I am to blame. I am sorry. I could not activate the lucky bar stool. For whatever reason (again, this is a component of crazy Ohio business thinking, it's no wonder this place is screwed up, between corrupt government, corrupt small businesses, and just stupid decision-making, it's no wonder the Tea Party is as popular out here as it is, people are tired of people being stupid amidst Byzantine regulations), the local watering hole in Hudson, Ohio was closed last night.

I could not activate the lucky barstool. I actually called two workers at the bar at home and asked them to open up the bar just so I could get in and utilize the barstool for just a few minutes. Being LeBroniacs, they refused, one quite callously. Not cool.

So, yeah. I'm partially to blame. I'm sorry. I did my best. I guess I could have broken in, but then I'd be in jail for Game Three and wouldn't be able to activate the lucky barstool then. So it was something of a trade off. Game Three at least the powers of the lucky barstool will be utilized.

8. I really hate the Celtics. Allen's not going to have a night like last night ever again in his career let alone this series. Still, can't let that guy just shoot. Let's be serious.

9. I hope Lamar Odom remembers how to play when Celtics fans are saying utterly dispicable things about his wife, because they will and will do so constantly. They have no class. Lamar better step up if he's a man.

10. I was proud of Andrew Bynum last night.

11. We overall didn't rebound aggressively enough last night. I'm feeling that the key statistic in this series will be offensive rebounds. The team with most offensive rebounds will win this series.

12. I need to release the Bio-Chrono Weapon. I haven't done so. It's another point of irresponsibility on my part. I've just been overwhelmed with preparing to move back to Los Angeles, but I'll get it done.

13. Nothing silences a troll like VICTORY! Let's get this done.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Ray Allen's performance was, dare I say it, Jordan-esque.

Posted by: BUTLER | June 07, 2010 at 09:39 AM
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More like Pippen-esque.

If you wanna see Jordan-esque, watch Kobe in Game 3.

Mamba24,

Please DO NOT put me on this "We Got This!" bandwagon.

Overconfidence in battle will get you killed.

Let's win this series one game at a time, not with irrational over-enthusiasm.

Gird ourselves now and worry about the celebration later.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forver.

GO LAKERS!!!

utzworld - the ONCE AND FUTURE BANNER HOLDER,

We really need a prayer before the next game.

Let me know, because if you not going to lead it, I will.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Look.

People don't remember the 80's Laker-Celtics series because one side dominated. They're remembered because two great teams duked it out and went back and forth.

In `84, the Lakers took game 1 in Boston and came back home tied 1-1. That year, they ended up losing the series in 7 games.

In `85, the Lakers and Celtics also split the first two games, and the Lakers ended up winning the series in 6.

In `87, the Lakers won two straight at home and then took it in 6.

So the 1-1 split doesn't mean anything except that it's an exciting series. If the Lakers were good enough to sweep the Celtics in 4, much as I'd enjoy that, it would be a boring series. I'd enjoy it not because it was entertaining, but because it was the Lakers kicking the Celtics butts.


WE “STILL” GOT THIS!!! – REFS DIDN’T STEAL IT –WE GOTTA WANT IT - BANDWAGON
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(00) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - CHAPLAIN - These Chicken Little fairweather "Laker" fans are embarrassing. Don't blame the refs for LO's disappearance, Ron Ron's bad shooting & Kobe's 8 for 20. *
The refs didn't lose this game. WE DID! Let us pray that they suck it up, study the film & make the adjustments necessary. 2 out of 3 in Boston is entirely possible. And let us also continue to pray that Andrew continues to press on despite the pain in his knee. As I said earlier, his new found integrity & focus is making a believer out of me!
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –CO/OWNER – OH YEAH WE STILL GOT THIS
(02) PHRED - CO/OWNER
(03) LETS GO L’S’ – DRIVER - Like I've said all along, there will be NO cakewalk in winning the title from both parties. Believe me, Boston knows this and so do we, after last night's loss. It's ON! OK, here's a wakeup shot...If the possibility of losing to the Boston Celtics is the ONE thing driving fear into our hearts and breaking our confidence in our team as TRUE fans, here's the LARGER picture. Tell me a team, injuries, ADVERSITY and all, that has made it to the Finals 3 CONSECUTIVE years since the three-peat Lakers of 2000-2002... Also, tell me a team that was humbled the previous year to these very Celtics in 2008 and BOUNCED back and win it all the FOLLOWING year in 2009 vs the Celtics ouster called the Magic...Folks, if you ask me, our Lakers have given us a heck of a ride thus far in 2010, and not over YET by any stretch of the imagination. For petes sake, it's 1-1 As for the current state of affairs, I expect the Lakers to give Boston a run for their money the next three games, with a return trip back to LA for a chance to win it ALL. Gotta BELIEVE folks. WE GOT THIS
(04) #4 - No worries...it took a Ray Allen on fire and foul trouble on all of starting perimeter defenders to get a win for them. The Uglies at the Fleet TD North whatever aren't going to know what hit them.
(05) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – I’m in it for the long haul Why? Cause WE GOT THIS!
(06 FISTER – SECURITY - the Lakers will be fine. Not only will they win the series repeat as Champions, they'll wish the Celtics ever humiliated them in the finals like this and before. Lakers now and all the way. WE GOT THIS!!
(07) J24 - Put my on the WE STILL GOT THIS bandwagon! One loss is needed, the Lakers need to feel the pain of 2008 again to get them all worked up and play with intensity. focus. heart. WE STILL GOT THIS
(08) APOLLO C. VERMONT - Somebody is trying to make the free throw an issue 41 to 26, but you did not mention both teams had 29 fouls. Why the difference?? The celtics fouled the lakers more during the penalty and on shooting foul...that's the difference...there are bad calls tonight but I do not want to linger on that...but I like what I saw, it is not the beginning for the Celtics run but it's the start of their demise...it's like Oscar De Lahoya...no more gas...it's empty....They will try to tell us the momentum is on Boston's side coz games 3-5 will be on Boston. Anyway from the first 2 games I just saw what I need to see and I know the Lakers will be the champion again

(09) KARMANIAC - Now we need to kill them in Boston... and this will happen. WE STILL GOT THIS
(10) DWNTWNATTY - Get back in your holes trolls. I like the math here for the Lakers. Kobe bottled up with "fouls" the whole game. Ray Allen goes historic for a quarter (but quiets down after we FINALLY adjust - -side note, that time he flopped and Kobe got called for a foul, there was a head collision and Ray's mouth was bleeding. He should have been pulled out by rule). It's going to take a lot from you guys to beat us 3 more times. Not impossible, but, objectively (and subjectively) I like our chances. WE STILL GOT THIS
(11) RICK FRIEDMAN - I'm on record this morning as Lakers in 6. I think that qualifies me for the band wagon. I'm also on the record standing side by side with Utzworld, saying don't blame the refs. Interesting that all the overnight posts are always doom and gloom, and then ECJ, Tim-4-Show, HalosAnt and others confirm that voices of reason ultimately prevail here.
(12) NEW MEXICO LAKER LIFER - From the mouth of Paula Pierce "We Ain't coming back to L.A." to Kobe's ears. Now that is motivatin!!!! Paula has a short memory when he said that to Orlando
(13) BYNUM DUNKNASTY - Lakers in 5!!! You cannot stop Dunknasty, you have no answer. Laker fans, we will never die, just multiply! WE STILL GOT THIS
(14) THE OUTLAW - It won't be easy. But I didn't expect it to be. I don't care if they win 3 of 3, 3 of 4, or 3 of 5. As long as the Lakers win their last game this season, I'll be happy. WE STILL GOT THIS
(15) JAC - It's one game people! You really think Boston is winning 3 in a row? No team has won those 3 games ever in a row. Boston, the worst home team, is NOT winning 3 in a row, I'll be surprised if they win one. LA closes it in 6 at home. WE STILL GOT THIS

That sound you hear is the Lakers choking yet again against the Celtics..."those who forget the past are doomed to relive it..."

That other sound is Kobe's legacy as "greatest Laker" flushing down the toilet.

It's going to get REALLY ugly when our "bench" and Odumb have to play in Boston...we might lose by 40 again.

Blow it up, Mitch!!!!!!

Larry,

Seriously, the Bandwagon should be Don't Blame the Refs, Grow a Set.

Put me on it if you start it. "It's the Refs fault" is the battle cry of the loser.

I remember hearing similar comments on this blog last year around this time.

Let me tell you guys something, Ray Allen's game wasn't a fluke. He can do it again if we let him. Ray is one of the best shooters in the history of the NBA. When we take him out, it opens up other things for the Celtics, like Rondo's penetration. When we take out the other stuff, Ray will make us pay. We have to accept that and win despite of this.

This Celtics starting 5 has never lost a playoff series. These guys are no joke. They have proven that they have what it takes to beat us. We have not proven anything against them.

We need to take this 1 game at a time. I will not make any predictions on this series out of respect to the Celtics. The Lakers need to look at game 3 as an all out war. They need to leave everything they have out on the court.

We still have to show and prove. The series' against OKC, Utah, and Phoenix mean absolutely nothing. Those teams would get KILLED by the Celtics with ease. Winning this series is going to take an effort that most of these Lakers have never given before. It's going to have to be all out, every possession, offense and defense.

We can do this!
Let's do this!
Go Lakers!

Correction: I remember hearing similar comments last time we played the C's in the 2008.

GO Lakers!

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!

NewMexicoLakerLifer,

Did Paul Pierce really say he wasn't returning to LA this series????!!!

This is either weird or laughable...

Why, you may ask?

Well, last night, amidst all the trolls and doom and gloomers, I posted two words:

1990 Finals

What's unique and will ALWAYS stand out in my mind about that Finals is that Portland won a close game 2 on the road against the defending champs.

It was either Drexler or Kersey (can't remember which) says point blank "there's no way we're coming back to Detroit this series"

He was correct.

I agree that the officiating was bad. You have a team that drove to the basket and was constantly hacked at while doing so shooting significantly less than half as many free throws as the other team did 'til that team started intentionally fouling at the end (and even with all those intentional fouls it was still 41-26). Whenever the team that scores more field goals in the paint shoots way fewer free throws than the other, the officiating is worth questioning. And whenever fans whine about unfair officiating after their team makes more free throws than field goals, their fans are liable to bolster their reputation for being clueless about basketball.

The last time Lamar was this non-existant was May 10th against Utah, when he shot 2 for 4. The next game he came out and hit 9-15 and got 19 points and 19 rebounds. It's the Lamar roller-coaster syndrome.

The last time Artest shot that poorly was May 27 vs Phoenix, when he shot 2 for 9. The next game he came out and shot 10-16 (4-7 on 3's) and scored 25 points. I should also point out that Ron has had 4 other big bounce-back games this playoffs:
April 20: 2-10 then April 22: 5-10
April 24: 2-9 then April 27: 6-11
April 30: 3-10 then May 2: 4-9
May 10: 2-8 then May 17: 6-14

Derek Fisher's also had some big bounce-back games:
April 20: 2-10 then April 22: 5-8
May 4: 1-4 then May 8: 7-13
May 19: 2-8 then May 23: 6-11

I hope the Celtics decide that they don't need to guard those three guys in the next game. Clearly based on game 2, they're no threat.

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WE “STILL” GOT THIS!!! –DON’T BLAME THE REF’S …GROW A PAIR - BANDWAGON
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(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - CHAPLAIN - These Chicken Little fairweather "Laker" fans are embarrassing. Don't blame the refs for LO's disappearance, Ron Ron's bad shooting & Kobe's 8 for 20. *
The refs didn't lose this game. WE DID! Let us pray that they suck it up, study the film & make the adjustments necessary. 2 out of 3 in Boston is entirely possible. And let us also continue to pray that Andrew continues to press on despite the pain in his knee. As I said earlier, his new found integrity & focus is making a believer out of me!
(02) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –CO/OWNER – OH YEAH WE STILL GOT THIS
(03) PHRED - CO/OWNER
(04) #4 - No worries...it took a Ray Allen on fire and foul trouble on all of starting perimeter defenders to get a win for them. The Uglies at the Fleet TD North whatever aren't going to know what hit them.
(05) MARK G. CO DRIVER - Seriously, the Bandwagon should be Don't Blame the Refs, Grow a Set.
(06) LETS GO L’S’ –CO/ DRIVER - Like I've said all along, there will be NO cakewalk in winning the title from both parties. Believe me, Boston knows this and so do we, after last night's loss. It's ON! OK, here's a wakeup shot...If the possibility of losing to the Boston Celtics is the ONE thing driving fear into our hearts and breaking our confidence in our team as TRUE fans, here's the LARGER picture. Tell me a team, injuries, ADVERSITY and all, that has made it to the Finals 3 CONSECUTIVE years since the three-peat Lakers of 2000-2002... Also, tell me a team that was humbled the previous year to these very Celtics in 2008 and BOUNCED back and win it all the FOLLOWING year in 2009 vs the Celtics ouster called the Magic...Folks, if you ask me, our Lakers have given us a heck of a ride thus far in 2010, and not over YET by any stretch of the imagination. For petes sake, it's 1-1 As for the current state of affairs, I expect the Lakers to give Boston a run for their money the next three games, with a return trip back to LA for a chance to win it ALL. Gotta BELIEVE folks. WE GOT THIS
(07) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – I’m in it for the long haul Why? Cause WE GOT THIS!
(08 FISTER – SECURITY - the Lakers will be fine. Not only will they win the series repeat as Champions, they'll wish the Celtics ever humiliated them in the finals like this and before. Lakers now and all the way. WE GOT THIS!!
(09) J24 - Put my on the WE STILL GOT THIS bandwagon! One loss is needed, the Lakers need to feel the pain of 2008 again to get them all worked up and play with intensity. focus. heart. WE STILL GOT THIS
(10) APOLLO C. VERMONT - Somebody is trying to make the free throw an issue 41 to 26, but you did not mention both teams had 29 fouls. Why the difference?? The celtics fouled the lakers more during the penalty and on shooting foul...that's the difference...there are bad calls tonight but I do not want to linger on that...but I like what I saw, it is not the beginning for the Celtics run but it's the start of their demise...it's like Oscar De Lahoya...no more gas...it's empty....They will try to tell us the momentum is on Boston's side coz games 3-5 will be on Boston. Anyway from the first 2 games I just saw what I need to see and I know the Lakers will be the champion again
(11) KARMANIAC - Now we need to kill them in Boston... and this will happen. WE STILL GOT THIS
(12) DWNTWNATTY - Get back in your holes trolls. I like the math here for the Lakers. Kobe bottled up with "fouls" the whole game. Ray Allen goes historic for a quarter (but quiets down after we FINALLY adjust - -side note, that time he flopped and Kobe got called for a foul, there was a head collision and Ray's mouth was bleeding. He should have been pulled out by rule). It's going to take a lot from you guys to beat us 3 more times. Not impossible, but, objectively (and subjectively) I like our chances. WE STILL GOT THIS
(13) RICK FRIEDMAN - I'm on record this morning as Lakers in 6. I think that qualifies me for the band wagon. I'm also on the record standing side by side with Utzworld, saying don't blame the refs. Interesting that all the overnight posts are always doom and gloom, and then ECJ, Tim-4-Show, HalosAnt and others confirm that voices of reason ultimately prevail here.
(14) NEW MEXICO LAKER LIFER - From the mouth of Paula Pierce "We Ain't coming back to L.A." to Kobe's ears. Now that is motivatin!!!! Paula has a short memory when he said that to Orlando
(15) BYNUM DUNKNASTY - Lakers in 5!!! You cannot stop Dunknasty, you have no answer. Laker fans, we will never die, just multiply! WE STILL GOT THIS
(16) THE OUTLAW - It won't be easy. But I didn't expect it to be. I don't care if they win 3 of 3, 3 of 4, or 3 of 5. As long as the Lakers win their last game this season, I'll be happy. WE STILL GOT THIS
(17) JAC - It's one game people! You really think Boston is winning 3 in a row? No team has won those 3 games ever in a row. Boston, the worst home team, is NOT winning 3 in a row, I'll be surprised if they win one. LA closes it in 6 at home. WE STILL GOT THIS
(18) ROCKY - I remember hearing similar comments on this blog last year around this time. We need to take this 1 game at a time. I will not make any predictions on this series out of respect to the Celtics. The Lakers need to look at game 3 as an all out war. They need to leave everything they have out on the court. We still have to show and prove. The series' against OKC, Utah, and Phoenix mean absolutely nothing. Those teams would get KILLED by the Celtics with ease. Winning this series is going to take an effort that most of these Lakers have never given before. It's going to have to be all out, every possession, offense and defense. We can do this! LET’S DO THIS

Hey Paula,

Your prediction on not coming back to L.A. may actually come true...

Lakers win 3 straight in Boston and, yeah, you won't have to come back.

I'm not making sour grapes here, but it's true that BOS desired LA in the Finals more than PHX.

LA depends on its usual advantages at SG and front court to beat teams. But BOS' perimeter playas are just as good collectively as LA's, and their bigs are too.

Mamba,

Much respect bro. But I do not want to be on the "we got this" bandwagon.

If there's an "all out--1 game at a time" or a "Yes, We Can" bandwagon, I'll be on that one.

Go Lakers!

I hope the refs are done beta testing their whistles. Must be a brand new whistles. Whistle ver 2.0 have been put on a test for the last 2 games in the FINALS. I say: OK refs, are we done testing those whistles? Can we get back to the real reason why we are watching? Can we get back to the game, please? STUP!D referees thinks I'm putting 3 hours of my time because of them.

Much respect bro. But I do not want to be on the "we got this" bandwagon.if there's an "all out--1 game at a time" or a "Yes, We Can" bandwagon, I'll be on that one.Posted by: Rocky | June 07, 2010 at 10:21 AM
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I hear you and you make good sense my brother!
Mamab24
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Hey Paula, Your prediction on not coming back to L.A. may actually come true...Lakers win 3 straight in Boston and, yeah, you won't have to come back.Posted by: HalosAnt | June 07, 2010 at 10:20 AM
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PREACH HALOS ANT PREACH YES!!

I hope the refs are done beta testing their whistles. Must be a brand new whistles. Whistle ver 2.0 have been put on a test for the last 2 games in the FINALS. I say: OK refs, are we done testing those whistles? Can we get back to the real reason why we are watching? Can we get back to the game, please? STUP!D referees thinks I'm putting 3 hours of my time because of them. Posted by: GameFaceON | June 07, 2010 at 10:24 AM
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Yes my goodness yes! That GameFace is on tight! Lock & Load bro we in for a bumpy ride but we will reach our destination!!!

Good morning:

Where are your brooms?

I am not overly happy with the CELTICS (you guys keep spelling it wrong!!) win. I'm overly happy that there is the slighest bit of panic and doubt on this board. For, you see, we have not been given a modicum of respect all year. But, I know, I know.......we didn't beat you, it was the refs. Despite the fact you took more FT's than we did, despite the fact you MISSED 10 FT's. Despite the fact you were 1-for-your-last-10 from the field, and despite the fact the Difference Maker Ron Artest was 1-8.....yeah, sounds like the refs. The fact is you should win when Pierce and Garnett get 16 points combined.

You have a great team, and it will be a great series. Still bothers me that some on here, who profess to be followers of HIM, write phrases like, "I hate the Celtics." Doesn't sound like something HE would approve of. I don't hate the lakers. It actually doesn't matter who we beat in the Finals, as long as we win.

Coach Wooden would not be happy with some of your whining and attitudes. May the Great Man rest in peace!!

Tim-for-Show.... I saw it in the Orange County Reg.

Coach Wooden would not be happy with some of your whining and attitudes. May the Great Man rest in peace!!Posted by: Giant Green Bald Headed Lunatic | June 07, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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Your boy Rondo taking over the Team, Giant. Why don't they make him Captain next year instead of Paul Pierce. By the way damn good game! I'm becoming more impressed with Rondo every day!
Mamba24

Mamba24 - thanks, man, we've been impressed with the guy all year!!

Pierce is the captain, unless he opts out.

Great game by Bynum, and Gasol was his usual STUD self.

Larry Bird always said the odd-numbered games are the most important ones, so we still need to win Game 3!!

Good luck - the better team will win, because the better team always does!!

Someone should ask Lamar why he hasn't joined his teammates in this series. Enquiring minds want to know!

Throughout the years, we, who support the Los Angeles Lakers, have seen the greatness of Kobe Bryant. We have seen brilliant displays of basketball skills in all phases of the game. There is nothing on a basketball court that Kobe cannot do.

I believe, that in order for the Lakers to win this series, Kobe must play like a defensive minded point guard and sacrifice some of his offense. If Andrew Bynum can continue to play at a high level, the Lakers frontcourt will be their biggest advantage over the Celtics. Pau's playing well is a given at this point. Kobe can best help his team win by setting those two guys up as much as possible and by expending a lot of his energy on the defensive side of the ball. We've seen Kobe go for 13 assists in this playoff run and have a string of 30 point games. Against the Celtics, the high assist total is the way to go. Kobe will score 20-25 points almost by accident. Last night, in spite of all his foul difficulties, he scored 21. After the game, Kobe said that it was all about defense. He's right and he's got to lead by example.

And, before anyone accuses me of bing a Kobe hater let me say that I am not. I love Kobe and the Lakers. I just want to see them win and I think what I've suggested will help a lot. I hope Kobe makes the adjustment.

MAMBA24...

Good morning to you, sir!
Thanks for your unflappable Laker love! And please put me down on the "WE STILL GOT THIS" b/wagon. The Lakers were bound to drop one at Staples...they had won something like ten straight playoff games at home. Don't forget they beat Boston in the GAAHDEN this year towards the end of a long road trip. To, ECJ, troy and all the other true believers who will be Laker fans no matter what...."WE STILL GOT THIS!!"

I'm surprised by the number of people here who dismiss the effect of officiating on the outcome (in huge contrast to last night's game chat). The biggest moment in the game was a blown call by the officials that was completely inexcusable, and the sort of thing that causes people to claim that some games are fixed.

With just under 2 minutes left, the Lakers were down by 3 and got a stop. That is, until the officials took it away. Garnett and Pau went for the loose ball, and KG knocked it out of bounds. The call went Boston's way, although the officials took the time to review it on replay. The replay CLEARLY showed that a black hand (that would be Garnett, not Pau...) knocked the ball out, but the officials stayed with the call and gave Boston the ball. Seconds later, instead of the Lakers with the ball and a chance to cut the lead to one (or tie), Rondo hits a jumper and the Celtics went up 5. That's a 5 point lead with about a minute and half left, instead of a one possession game (and possibly a tie).

That call, more than anything else, supports the argument that the officials gave this game to Boston. There is simply no way that three professional officials, with the aid of instant replay no less, can watch that play several times and award the ball to Boston. Because of the circumstances and the use of replay, that might have been one of the worst calls in NBA history.

Now, of course the Lakers should have "fought through" this, but after a night of horrible calls (both ways, to be sure) and foul trouble all around, a call like that can't help but affect your mindset. More than any other game this year, last night it was 5 guys against 8....

This is a problem because now you can bet that the officials will swallow their whistles in Boston as an overreaction to last night's foul-fest, which plays perfectly into Boston's hands as they grab and hold and set illegal picks. That, plus the home crowd, and I think game three is likely to be a blowout for the C's.

All this whining about the refs, and the lakers ended up shooting a zillion more free throws. WhineWhineWhine...if the refs hadn't been making such BS calls on the Celts in Game 1 and 3/4 of Game 2 then the bad calls in the 4th quarter wouldn't matter so much.

Subpar games from Pierce and KG and they still beat you and the refs!

The NBA really needs to clean up its act in regards to coaches patrolling the sidelines. Very few coaches respect the parameters of the coaching box. That incident with Doc Rivers last night was beyond ridiculous. And the bench players on both sides need to stay off the court.

By the way, referee Mike Callahan, who was part of last night's crew, was the ref standing 6 feet away from KG when he threw the 2 punches at Dwight Howard in gm. 6 of the ECF. With no consequence. Just saying.

Ray Allen was taken out of game 1 pretty early because of foul trouble. It happens. The Celtics didn't lose because of it. And the Lakers didn't lose last night because of the refs. They lost because the Celtics back court clearly outplayed the Lakers back court. But keep making excuses Lakers' "fans". You're going to need them.

When will LO show up? Even Bynum has been more consistently better than LO on one healthy knee. Bynum earns his pay while LO does not. There were many bad calls against both teams however one was critically bad for the Lakers when the refs gave the ball to the celts (KG knocked it out of bounds) towards the end of game. The Lakers need to play Sasha more, he can tire the Celts legs with his speed.

PJ is brilliant in suggesting to his team that last night may have been their last game at Staples during this playoff run. I've always believed in constructive fear. Constructive fear is the thing that motivates folks to do the right thing. You don't play with a loaded pistol. You don't cross the street without looking both ways. You don't have unprotected sex. Fear of going to jail. Constructive fear helps keep us all on the straight and narrow.

I believe that the Lakers have another level that they can attain in this series. They fear losing to Boston again in the worst way. There is no way they want that agony again. The Lakers HATE this team. They want to win in the worst way to avoid a summer and indeed a full year of misery trying to get back to the Finals. They've got to win to exorcise those demons and THEY KNOW IT! Constructive fear.

I say LA has a higher chance to win game 3 then the celtics do. It is tied 1-1 people, lets not forget this is the Finals, and both teams can win on eachother's home floors. The celtics are also the worst home team, so thats good for us.

In Boston what you Angelenos call "constructive fear" we call common sense.

It's never "common sense" to assume that a poster on this blog is an Angeleno. Laker Nation is a world wide thing.

LakerNation is a world wide thing. It's just a little smaller today.

Lakers lost because Allen and Rondo were magnificent and because the Celtics outhustled the Lakers for rebounds and putbacks. You can't seriously believe in a conspriracy to cheat the Lakers out of last nights game with bogus calls.
I could see people in Oklahoma (no offense meant) thinking in such a paranoid, backward way but not people from a major city like LA?

The better team is going to win; there is no sense of insulting the fans of the other team, and that applies to both teams' fans. I am sick of reading posts that referred to Kobe's incident in Denver in the worst way, that has nothing to do with basketball. When someone posted negative, nasty comments here, all it does is that reflects badly on the writer, why on earth one would want the whole world to know you are a jerk? The nastier the post the bigger jerk. Everyone one is entitled to his/her opinion; one does not have to agree to that opinion just do not insult people because you do not like what they had to say.

All good points you have made. My only thing to add is about Artest. I LOVE the defense he is putting on Pierce--he looked totally lost last night (nice job, Ron). However, am I the only one who feels sick when he dribbles (WTF--I've seen 7-year-olds dribble with more control) or shoots (WTF with those free throws last night--looks like Shaq is coaching him) or has the ball in a key situation? Late in the game, when he dribbled around forever and then heaved up the ball, I yelled out, "Who do you think you are? You are NOT Kobe, dude!"

All I am saying is that every player on this team has a role. They all need to stick to their roles HARD, and everything will fall into place. Lakers all the way, but in 7.

Oh, yeah, and L.O., please wake the f**k up. Now. More than anything, you are the key, the "X" factor, to this whole thing.

Peace.

There is no coaching box in the NBA - that's high school!!!

There is no coaching box in the NBA - that's high school!!!


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