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Lakers' 96-89 Game 4 loss to Boston Celtics shows team will be in trouble without Andrew Bynum

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Time and again, the Lakers quickly saw what life could be like without center Andrew Bynum. They saw it when Boston physically intimidated them in the paint. They saw it when they didn't hustle for loose balls. And they saw it when the Celtics' fourth-quarter bench effort proved overwhelming against a flimsy Lakers defense.

With Bynum sitting out all but 1:50 of the second half because of increased swelling in the torn cartilage in his right knee, the Lakers' execution in their 96-89 Game 4 NBA Finals loss Thursday to the Boston Celtics appeared as disheveled as the assorted water bottles, ankle tape and socks that remained afterward in the Lakers' locker room. Bynum said he plans to play in Game 5 Sunday, although that answer speaks more to his optimism than actual diagnosis. If the Lakers' performance in Game 4 serves as any indication, however, the Lakers better hope Bynum provides more than a limited run in Game 5.

The Celtics tying the series at 2-2 shouldn't be alarming. The Lakers still have home-court advantage and it was expected this would be a competitive series. But unfortunately for the Lakers, they've rarely responded well this season without Bynum's presence. And the latest case study couldn't come at a worse time as the Lakers are two wins away from a second consecutive title.

"Especially with Andrew out of the game, we have to move the ball and be quicker," said Lakers forward Lamar Odom, who scored 10 points on five of 10 shooting and started the second half in place of Bynum. "We can't just stand around and watch. Without him in the game, that's not our strength."

Yet, there's a reason Odom cited the team's failure to move the ball 14 different times during a more than seven-minute postgame interview. He likely emphasized that point even more as he patiently waited to answer every reporter's question. If only the Lakers executed as clearly as Odom's explanation for the team's shortcomings.

The Celtics won in many categories, including rebounds (41-34), points in the paint (54-34) and second-chance points (20-10). Glen Davis' 18 points mostly came against an overmatched Odom and was part of the Celtics' 38-point effort from the bench. Even though Bynum had averaged 13.3 points and 7.3 rebounds in 32 minutes a game, a stat line that exceeds his playoff total this postseason in both production and playing time, Lakers guard Derek Fisher wouldn't pin the loss solely on Bynum's limitations.

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant scored 33 points on 10 of 22 shooting, but Tony Allen's defense held him to a two of four clip and he committed seven turnovers. With Bryant appearing tired in Jackson's eyes, he acknowledged his own failure with allocating minutes. To put a further dent in the rotation, Fisher collected his fourth foul midway through the third quarter, putting even more pressure on Bryant and the team's ineffective bench. And though Pau Gasol scored 21 points on six of 13 shooting, the Lakers' lacking depth in the post allowed the Celtics' defense, led by an erratic Rasheed Wallace, to narrow their concentration.

"When he's out and not available, that makes it tougher for us," Fisher said of Bynum. "There are still some things we can accomplish out there to get the job done. Some of it was desire and wanting it. I'm not questioning my guys in terms of wanting it, but they beat us to the ball and got to some things quicker than us."

Even though the Lakers lacked in several areas of the game, many of those shortcomings were rooted in the fact that they didn't know how to respond with Bynum out of the normal rotation. That doesn't mean the Lakers don't have the capability to absorb his loss or limitation. They just haven't shown a pattern that they could all season. The Lakers went 6-7 when he missed the final 13 games of the regular season because of a strained left Achilles' tendon. As in Game 4, the absence prompted Gasol to move to center and Odom to play more minutes, meaning there's less of a height presence, less depth on the front line and a bench without Odom as its leader. "He'll be ready," Lakers forward Ron Artest predicted of Bynum. The Lakers sure hope so. Their season depends on it.

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Celtics forward Glen Davis tries to muscle up a shot against Lakers center Andrew Bynum during Game 4 on Thursday night at TD Garden in Boston. Credit: CJ Gunther/ EPA.

 
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BEST 2 OUT OF 3 WORKS FOR ME – I’LL TAKE LAKERS & 2 GAMES AT HOME – BANDWAGON
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(01) GOD – ALL THAT IS - I am not worried. The Lakers were pacing. They are a much better team when they pick it up. I guarantee a win in game 5. why? because I am God and is a Laker fan!
(02) MR. NANO – PROPHET - Now the PROPHECY will be fulfilled. LAKERS IN 6.
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - OWNER - It's tied 2-2. No need to panic. Best 2 out of 3 now. Both teams want it. One team will get it. This is how it should be. This is exciting!!!
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(05) JON K. – DRIVER - Brother, you've got to understand, these people who respond like that aren't fans. Yes, Lakers fans expect excellence and should expect excellence. But these people are chicken littles with no heart. They are incapable of having faith through adversity, which makes them very shallow people. Laker Nation is filled with True Fans. Most of them just don't vomit nonsense after a loss. Things will be fine. I expected that we'd go 2-1 in Boston. I think almost everyone who has any intelligence and perception expected this thing to go six games, and it will. Boston's a very good team and they hate us. And we hate them, as they deserve to be hated. And WE STILL GOT THIS!!!. It won't be easy, but WE DON’T WANT EASY. We WANT GREATNESS. And WE GOT IT .



(35) WESJOENIXON - Did anyone realy expect us to win last night? I called a 10-15 point loss before the tipoff, so I'll take a 7 point loss. I really, really believe we'll take the final 2 games in LA like in 88 or 87 or whenever we beat the pistons in game 7 after escaping a close game 6. But please chill with the chicken-little dramatics.
(36) LAKER TRUTH - Now that Stern got his wish (an extended series), the officiating will be fair and consistent from here on out.
(37) TIM-4-SHOW - Why are people talking about the Lakers losing the series? Lakers, even with spotty play, have been in control of the series the whole way Don't worry, by this time next week, we'll be talking about potential trades, who's attending the parade celebration, and our expectations for next year. So, enjoy the ups and down until then. It taste so sweet and there's plenty more sweetness to eat. In fact, two more doses, and the Lakers are hungry.
(38) NEWMEXICOLAKERFORLIFE - We played our WORST PLAYOFF game in two years without Bynum and only lost by seven points in thier house. I really did think I was watching wild animals in a zoo. With all the chest pounding floor slapping and yapping. If I was a Celtic fan I would be appalled at how my team presented themselves. Of course that starts at the top with WHINY RIVERS. Our team CONTROLS their emotions with class and we will win in 6. GO LAKERS!!!
(39) CTRAN - could remember in my sleep Allen was hacking Fish right in front of the ref whose whistle was a green candy so he must have swallowed it, and that was not the only time that he fouled Fish. I guess all that Rivers crying paid off. On a different note, LO was missing again, the Lakers need him especially he usually replaced Bynum. The 2 days off should help Bynum but they must play with an all-out effort. GO LAKERS!!!
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Good morning Laker family,

I know we didn't really expect to win all 3 games in Boston so lat night's loss was to be expected. I would have preferred they drop game 5 and won last night but I have faith in my team.

We've gotta battle it out on Sunday to take a 3-2 lead and close in L.A. Either way, them droolin' fools aren't beating us.

LAKERS TODAY, LAKERS FOREVER!!! #16 is just days away.

Morning LakerBlog Crue, LakerNation & Lakerholics!

Disappointed for last nights loss? Sure I am.

Panicked? Not at all.

Obviously as a fan, I would have liked to see the Lake Show up 3-1. But now it's tied 2-2. Stern and the NBA got what they wanted... at least a 6 or 7 game Series.

Was Bynum's presence missed in the 2nd half? You better believe it! I've been a moderate critic of Bynum in the not-so-distant past, due mostly in part of his constant injuries, but as some have pointed out he's proved that when moderately healthy he makes quite the difference.

I'd also like to raise the question of why won't Phil let DJ play, even if for just a handful of minutes? He's not the offensive threat that LO is but then again, right now LO isn't either, but DJ sure is a much better defensive presence for sure. I bet the Big Drool wouldn't have had as much impact had DJ been in there to bang bodies with him.

Now the Lakers have an extra day of rest and treatment for both Bynum and Kobe (Not so good for the Celtics) and we all know that Games 5 & 6 are where the Lakers ALWAYS SHINE THE BRIGHTEST!

LAKERS IN oh F%@K IT, doesn't matter, LAKERS WILL WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP... GUARANTEED!!!!!!!!!!

the lakers will not win this series.
bryant looks average.
his legacy will never recover from this.

LMAO @ Red's post

That Big Baby sure is special and I mean that in every twisted way you can think of. I wouldn't be caught dead anywhere with that beast.

Well, LA got lucky all last postseason by playing teams with significant injuries. It was bound to catch up with them at some point and happen to LA too.

Pau's "new toughness" may indeed be attributed to simply having another 7-footer out there, because he is easily pushed around by the Celts when on his own.

I guess this means it's Walton time, so all is ok.

LOL!

Looks like the Trolls are coming outta the woodwork... I think I even got a Captain Quack sighting.

Hmmm... I don't hear anymore complaing about the refs calls last night from any of the C's fans even though there were quite a few againts the Gangrene Leper-Cons... Oh wait, it must be because you won... you Trolls only like to complain about the unfairness of the refs only when you lose, so I guess we'll get all of those post after Games 5 & 6 when the LAKERS POUND THAT @ZZ!!!!!!!!

! LAKERS IN oh F%@K IT, doesn't matter, LAKERS WILL WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP... GUARANTEED!!!!!!!!!!Posted by: HalosAnt | June 11, 2010 at 07:37 AM
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Good Morning HalosAnt. Sounds like a rallying cry to me:"LAKERS IN oh F%@K IT, doesn't matter, LAKERS WILL WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP... GUARANTEED!!!!!!!!!!" I like it!
MAMBA24

That Big Baby sure is special and I mean that in every twisted way you can think of. I wouldn't be caught dead anywhere with that beast. Posted by: EastCoastJessie | June 11, 2010 at 07:43 AM
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ROFLMFAO! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! Leave it to EastCoastJessie and HalosAnt to put this thing into the comic perspective it deserves.!! Good Morning ECJessie and thank you. Lol!
MAMBA24

so I guess we'll get all of those post after Games 5 & 6 when the LAKERS POUND THAT @ZZ!!!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | June 11, 2010 at 07:44 AM
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That's the spirit HalosAnt!!! OK where's the rest of LakerNation. You can come out now, or are you gonna let ECJessie & HalosAnt carry the fight against the Trolls by themselves?
Mamba24

Mamba-

Good morning. Looks like your on your own today. Props for showing up. The know-it-all big mouths are all under their beds. At least I show win, lose or draw.

BTW FYI the first few post yesterday were from me. The later ones were not.

Hi BUTLER,

I was gonna say something smart-alecky about why are you even still here, but then I realized that since your sorry @zz Suns were sent packin' on an early vacay you are pretty much homeless.

So you're not really a BUTLER, more like a VAGRANT. You should use that as your handle from now on.

Oh wait, that was still smart-alecky wasn't it? Oh well.

Hey Mamba,

Gotta have some fun, seriously. We've got to be happy that we led most of last night's game and only lost in the last minutes because we missed Bynum's presence out there. He now has 2 days to recover and get treatment on the knee and he'll be back with a vengeance on Sunday.

The officiating was better yesterday but I did see some questionable calls/no-calls in the 4th which cost us. No excuses though, we also missed some easy shots at the end that could've sealed it as well.

We just got slobbered on by that Big Baby and it threw us all off. Dude is just plain nasty. I bet he takes the short bus to the TD Garden everyday.

the lakers will not win this series.
bryant looks average.
his legacy will never recover from this.
Posted by: sally | June 11, 2010 at 07:40 AM


Please send a cleanup crew to help with Kobe's Spill

Good morning everyone!

That was a tough loss to swallow, but not unexpected. The way that the Celtics rebounded really hurt us. I sure hope Drew will be ready on Sunday - we really need him to be on the court as long as he can.

We didn't play that terribly on the defensive end, we just need to rebound the ball much better. That's the key - it seemed as if the Celtics were thriving when they got offensive rebounds.

Good morning. Looks like your on your own today. Props for showing up. The know-it-all big mouths are all under their beds. At least I show win, lose or draw.BTW FYI the first few post yesterday were from me. The later ones were not. Posted by: 131-92 | June 11, 2010 at 07:54 AM
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Hey 131, I kind of figure someone had stole your ID. But those of us that know your Post knew that. So Big Baby had a decent game. Could it be because our Big, Bynum was handicapped?No excuses from me just throwing that out there. I hope you enjoyed that win because adjustments will be made and The Lakers will win game 5 and be up 3 -2. Then back to LA where we always close out our series in Game 6 and Doc won't have a week to get your team acclimated. I guess that means 2 more games 131. But as I said at the start it's been a helluva series. And we both called the series for 6 games, unfortunately the celtics will be on the losing end of that 6. Well Congrats on the win. See you for Game 6.
Mamba24

Agreed Caliphilosopher,

That really was all of the difference in the 4th. We needed those rebs and AB just couldn't be out there. He'll be ready on Sunday though.

I expected the Lakers to win 2/3 in Boston - Tuesday and this Sunday's game.
I had a small glimmer of hope that they'd win last night, but I knew it wasn't going to be because all the whining that Doc did was somehow going to work in their favor.

Now that the pacifier has been shoved into Doc crybaby's mouth, let's move on shall we?

The Lakers will still prevail. That's all.

131-92,

Not to jump into your conversation, but Mamba24 is definitely not on his own. Lots of folks here are concerned, but not panicked. I don't profess to be a basketball intellectual, but I still believe the Lakers will win the series.

Won't be easy, and it shouldn't be. I think as fans of these two franchises, we are incredibly lucky given the success over the decades. Losing, particularly losing to Boston, sucks massively. But winning a championship against Boston? That's what makes it all worthwhile.

@HALOSANT, ROFLMAO!! YOU ARE ON FIRE!!! KEEP IT UP
@CALIPHILOSPHER, You don't think Jerry Buss is to down about this loss do you? Got to make back some of that salary cap money Cali!
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We just got slobbered on by that Big Baby and it threw us all off. Dude is just plain nasty. I bet he takes the short bus to the TD Garden everyday. Posted by: EastCoastJessie | June 11, 2010 at 07:58 A
ROFLMAO!! Damnnnn this is better than a sitcom. I bet the trolls didn't expect this! KEEP IT UP PRINCESS!!
MAMBA24

The problem was that LA was either too tired or too intimidated to force the issue on offense. They had great control of the C's first unit defensively, but looked unsure as to how to defend the C's second unit. Davis got to set up anywhere he wanted. Robinson was able to roam, find spots and hit open shots.

Again, I go back to LO. Davis has a tendency to get into foul trouble when his man is aggressive towards the basket. Odom was not. Take it from me, a big man like Davis will lose his legs if you make him work on the defensive end and Odom decidedly did not.

But give the Celtics a lot of credit. They gutted out a back-to-the-wall win. And again, magnificent individual performances from two Celtics in the 4th deny LA a chance to control the series.

Now that the pacifier has been shoved into Doc crybaby's mouth, let's move on shall we? the Lakers will still prevail. That's all. Posted by: lurker | June 11, 2010 at 08:06 AM
DAMMMN!! All these good lines. You folks are...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!! I don't think the Trolls stand a chance today.KEEP IT UP LURKER!!
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@TEAMN - Good Morning. You know we all seem to be taking this loss almost as well as a win. KUDOS! I think deep inside we all wanted to win it at home anyway to give the fans a chance to celebrate. KEEP IT UP AND KEEP THE FAITH!!
MAMAB24


@ Peace
"The problem was that LA was either too tired or too intimidated to force the issue on offense."

I'd say tired or just missed out on some important rebounds but never intimidated. We're talking about a team that's been in the finals 3 years in a row who has played consistently tough basketball this series as well. A few sloppy plays, lost rebounds, and missed shots did us in last night but this team has heart and they've played like it.


@PEACE, good Morning! I'd say they were tired, NEVER INTIMIDATED(Even if some were. But so was the Celts starters which is why their bench played so much. If our Bench had stepped up this whole discussion would be academic.
But they didn't so we win the Title at home, which is just as well
Mamba24

"Dad, how come Kobe keeps giving the ball to that #9 guy at the end of the game?"

At EastCoastJessie remarkable how great minds think alike. Notice our opening line to Peace. Lol!
Mamba24

MAMBA24 --

Easy to keep the faith with folks like you around! Come hell or high water, it's Lakers!.

Won't be easy, and it shouldn't be. I think as fans of these two franchises, we are incredibly lucky given the success over the decades. Losing, particularly losing to Boston, sucks massively. But winning a championship against Boston? That's what makes it all worthwhile.

Posted by: teamn | June 11, 2010 at 08:07 AM

Fair enough. Im talking to the guys who say that Boston sucks ... they know who they are.

Hey Faker fans....have Bynum sit out Game 5 then your excuses will be more concrete. Funny I didn't hear the Bynum excuse in Games 1 & 3. Isn't it amazing that Bynum is only healthy when he doesn't play the Cs in the Finals...and when the Fakers win!

DROOL, BABY, DROOL!

Bobbin' my head to a new jam this morning...

LYRICS:
Let the church bells ring, let the drunkards sing, let Big Baby roar, and drool on each of Kobe's 5 rings.

Easy to keep the faith with folks like you around! Come hell or high water, it's Lakers!. Posted by: teamn | June 11, 2010 at 08:18 AM
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Thanks TeamN, but I'm just feeding off you, HalosAnt, ECJessie, Lurker and Peace's energy. I think if The Lakers bring the energy that we are exhibiting here to the next few games we will all be able to say...WE GOT THIS
mamba24

LOL Mamba, I noticed that too.

So the Lakers had some defensive and rebounding lapses, which allowed an overweight, undersized player with fluid control problems to have one big, fat night..

Lakers win on Sunday means winning 2 out of 3 in BOSTON!

DROOL, BABY, DROOL! Posted by: Get on your Bike and ride | June 11, 2010 at 08:18 AM
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HAHAHA!! I like it, I like it!!. I shall spend a few months composing an ODE to Big Baby. be back in a few minutes.
Mamba24

Bobbin' my head to a new jam this morning...

LYRICS:
Let the church bells ring, let the drunkards sing, let Big Baby roar, and drool on each of Kobe's 5 rings.

Posted by: EastCoastJessie | June 11, 2010 at 08:19 AM

LOL whatever makes you feel better.

Fair enough. Im talking to the guys who say that Boston sucks ... they know who they are. Posted by: 131-92 | June 11, 2010 at 08:18 AM
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Fair enough right back at ya 131!
Mamba24

Came for 1 and we're going to take 2! 2d game c's bench has won for them. r the ugly sister taunts bothering l.o? he is being outworked by everyone. c'mon l.o. man up!

BIG BABY
After a game like this how can it be, The Lakers got beat by a Big Baby
Could it be they wanted to avoid the Drool, I thinks so they are not a fool
Did you see the Drool go drip, drip drip, I wouldn’t touch it even for a championship
That’s why Big babys baskets were so easy, They saw that drool and their stomachs got queasy
Fortunately a championship was not at stake, Next game we’ll wear gloves for Goodness sake
Yes Phil has the adjustment he’s no fool, It’s Bio-Hazard suits to combat Big baby’s drool

Can we get some Dj Mbenga in the post against Big Baby in game 5??!!???


Good series. Good for the NBA. It wasn't about the referees, we got beat.

Obviously, with Andrew out, they have a matchup advantage with Davis. He played well in our win on Tuesday but when Andrew came in he was nullified. He's quick and powerful enough. Phil will adjust.

Get Kobe some rest, and the team time to move from power to speed if Andrew can't go and we'll be ready Sunday.

We'll win this in 6 or 7 if we have to. Either way, the ring is ours.

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(01) GOD – ALL THAT IS - I am not worried. The Lakers were pacing. They are a much better team when they pick it up. I GUARANTEE a win in GAME 5! WHY? because I AM GOD andGOD is a LAKER FAN!
(02) MR. NANO – PROPHET - Now the PROPHECY will be fulfilled. LAKERS IN 6.
(03) NEMAIA FALETOGO - OWNER - It's tied 2-2. No need to panic. Best 2 out of 3 now. Both teams want it. One team will get it. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.. THIS IS EXCITING!!!
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(05) JON K. – DRIVER - Yes, Lakers fans expect excellence and should expect excellence. But these negative people are chicken littles with no heart. They are incapable of having faith through adversity, which makes them very shallow people. Laker Nation is filled with True Fans. Most of them just don't vomit nonsense after a loss. Things will be fine. I expected that we'd go 2-1 in Boston. I think almost everyone who has any intelligence and perception expected this thing to go six games, and it will. Boston's a very good team and they hate us. And we hate them, as they deserve to be hated. And WE STILL GOT THIS!!!. It won't be easy, but WE DON’T WANT EASY. We WANT GREATNESS. And WE GOT IT .’T WANT EASY. We WANT GREATNESS. And WE GOT IT .


41) GAIJIN - Need to give Odom all the candies he wants to boost his energy , that way he will play with passion and intensity instead of just going through the motion. Raising 1 arm and not standing your ground won't stop anyone.
(42) TOM - why are the Laker fans panicking after game 4. It's one loss. Bynum's absence in the 2nd half caught us off guard. If he's in there big baby (thats a stupid nickname by the way) doesn't get those shots off. We need to make adjustments to win game 5 if Bynum can only give a few good minutes. Either Josh Powell or D.J. Mbenga need to come in to play defense on their bigs. Should've put Artest on baby last night. He's strong enough to deal with him. Series is tied 2-2 and people are panicking. We are fine. We just need to play extremely hard in game 5. Coach Jackson will make adjustments and motivate the team to play their best game The celtics are over there celebrating like they won the title already. Lakers will win the next 2 games. Just wait and see.
(43) HALOSANT - Disappointed for last nights loss? Sure I am. Panicked? Not at all. Obviously as a fan, I would have liked to see the Lake Show up 3-1. But now it's tied 2-2. Stern and the NBA got what they wanted... at least a 6 or 7 game Series. Was Bynum's presence missed in the 2nd half? You better believe it! I've been a moderate critic of Bynum in the not-so-distant past, due mostly in part of his constant injuries, but as some have pointed out he's proved that when moderately healthy he makes quite the difference. Now the Lakers have an extra day of rest and treatment for both Bynum and Kobe (Not so good for the Celtics) and we all know that Games 5 & 6 are where the Lakers ALWAYS SHINE THE BRIGHTEST! LAKERS IN oh F%@K IT, doesn't matter, LAKERS WILL WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP... GUARANTEED!!!!!!!!!!
(44) EASTCOASTJESSIE – That Big Baby sure is special and I mean that in every twisted way you can think of. I wouldn't be caught dead anywhere with that beast.
(45) LEW - Lakers took 1 in boston and goin to get 2. home court seems to be a nonfactor so far in this series but the Lakes took it back. c's knew if they went down 3-1 it was over! it will be about which team adjust better to good defenses. c's tooks advantage of bynum's absence. period. not so hard to believe they would attack his injury cuz their just a grimey team. everyone shoved l.o. around. Game 5 Lakes push back. And u no this!
(46) LURKER -What is with all the panic?
(47) NOAH - So the Lakers had some defensive and rebounding lapses, which allowed an overweight, undersized player with fluid control problems to have one big, fat night.. Lakers win on Sunday means winning 2 out of 3 in BOSTON!
(48) PEACE - Again, I go back to LO. Davis has a tendency to get into foul trouble when his man is aggressive towards the basket. Odom was not. Take it from me, a big man like Davis will lose his legs if you make him work on the defensive end and Odom decidedly did not.


Let guess, Celtic fans regrew their blarney stones after a couple of days of hiding? Gutless and predictable, I love it.

Noah asked what Drew's knee would say ala LBJ's elbow.

I think we need a 24 hour web cam on Drew's knee, kind of like they did for Molly the Owl. They could hook up some kind of sensors to read the swelling. That at least would give us something to do for the next 2 days, otherwise I'm going to ask God every 5 minutes "how's the knee." Obviously, and I think Cali already said this, we have to win the rebound war. "No rebounds no rings."

Let guess, Celtic fans regrew their blarney stones after a couple of days of hiding? Gutless and predictable, I love it.
Posted by: Mark G (pretty sure it's me) | June 11, 2010 at 08:32 AM
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I LOVE IT!! You guys are giving me enough comedy material for the rest of the playoffs! KEEP IT UP!! KEEP THE FAITH!!
MAMAB24


Let guess, Celtic fans regrew their blarney stones after a couple of days of hiding? Gutless and predictable, I love it.

Posted by: Mark G (pretty sure it's me) | June 11, 2010 at 08:32 AM

Lets hear your best excuse.

Good morning CRUE!


Well.... I'm kinda pissed off, but not really. I never expected a sweep, and we still have home court advantage so....


I'm worried about Socks. He's GOT to be a factor for us in Game 5. I'd rather not have to come back home down 3-2, so SOCKS- WHATEVER IT TAKES - GET IT DONE!!! We need you.

TROLLS - and you know who you are - do me a favor. Tell Fat Baby to stop drooling all over the place. It's difficult to handle the ball when it's all slimy and whatnot. EWWW - seriously - does this guy have a woman? And what kind of woman would want to get within 100 yards of that fat idiot?

Ok - on to Game 5. Laker win and come back home.

Let it be done.

GO LAKERS!!

Nothing but another title will suffice - Kobe Bryant


Enjoy the Journey, no big deal we've got this. Make a few adjustments and everyones back on the bandwagon, Drew give of what you can, LO will grow a pair, will be fine. You got to believe, as Mamba24 said"WE DON’T WANT EASY. We WANT GREATNESS. And WE GOT IT ." Lakers in 7

Kobe's 33 points did not compensate for his costly turnovers.

I'm not a Celtic fan I don't do excuses. I haven't been hiding for 2 days, like you have.

The proof is in the pudding. And, I think Drew has finally gotten it. His worth to this team isn't his scoring, but his rebounding and toughness. Big Baby doesn't go off like that against Drew. He may still have had a big game, but he wouldn't have dominated the way he did against Odom.

Plus, as a trickle-down effect, Odom's offensive game was on point last night. But you can clearly see that when he had to try to slow Big Baby down, his offense completely disappeared.

Even though Kobe was back to being efficient, the bench was similarly back to being over-matched. Though, at least you can't say the bench was ineffective.

Then, of course, just when you could sense that Kobe and PJ and Fish were setting the Craptics up to steal the game at the end, Rondo pulls an Artest and steals the game back. Kobe had just drawn a triple-team and had Fish set up perfectly for a dagger three. I was getting into my crouch getting ready to cheer, when I saw that Rondo had seen exactly what I saw.

How much has Kobe grown? Would you have ever in the past ever thought that an opposing player would win the game by correctly guessing that Kobe would NOT take the spirit-crushing shot? It is almost (but not quite) to the point that Kobe's generosity and trust in his team mates is becoming predictable.

BTW, this is exactly why Kobe must still take those ridiculous jab-step, step-back three pointers (which he nailed with two Ceptics on him). He simply must keep defenses guessing.

We all knew deep down inside that the 'Leps were going to win this one, even if we were all in denial. Pierce was going to eventually show up. Our bench was going to eventually fade away, again. The Greenies simply weren't going to give up.

Its a series.

--FEARless

I guess I'm the only one that expects the Lakers to win EVERY game.

Was I dreaming or did our championship lakers get beat downed and punked by a fat-a*s and a midget last night?

Webcam... yeah.. like a 24/7 reality show. Surgery, rehab, great viewing angle at Hef's mansion..

Anyway, we were playing with House Money last night. No one knew Bynum would have such a good game 3 because of the flight. Swelling increases during flights. So, no one anticipated we would have taken the first of the three games. It is still likely that we go back to LA down 3-2 with two to play at home.

However, somehow winning game 5 will deal a devastating body-blow to the Craptics' championship hopes.

I like us taking game five because Bynum gets a extra day to get the swelling back down.

--FEARless

It's true I hide after losses, what about it? My team is still better.

Anyway, we were playing with House Money last night. No one knew Bynum would have such a good game 3 because of the flight. Swelling increases during flights. So, no one anticipated we would have taken the first of the three games. It is still likely that we go back to LA down 3-2 with two to play at home.

However, somehow winning game 5 will deal a devastating body-blow to the Craptics' championship hopes.

I like us taking game five because Bynum gets a extra day to get the swelling back down.

--FEARless

Posted by: FEARless | June 11, 2010 at 08:48 AM

LOL whatever makes you feel better. Give us your BEST excuse.

i hope they sent out a towel boy to wipe up baby's huge toxic puddle of drool. Someone could easily slip and twist a knee.

SIMPLE RULE: If you are a troll appearing out of the woodwork only when celtics win, you get NO respect --- absolutely nothing -- If you also show up after a Celtics loss and post up like a man, it's a little different.

Most of you punks showing up out of the woodwork are like vapors in the night. Haunting in the nighttime, gone during the day.


I'm not a Celtic fan I don't do excuses. I haven't been hiding for 2 days, like you have.

Posted by: Mark G (pretty sure it's me) | June 11, 2010 at 08:43 AM

I know your not a Celtic fan. Thats exactly why we want your BEST excuse.

If your hero is Glen Davis, your team is in trouble...

@EastCoastJessie,

The missed rebounds were frustrating because you can see that it was not for lack of effort. I mean, Farmar did a straight out belly flop on the ball and it wound up a Craptic layup. Pau was getting his hands on numerous boards and they were just winding up in Bostonian's hands. At one point, Rondo threw the ball clearly out of bounds, only it didn't go out. Like someone pulled a string and the Ceptics just picked it up and scored.

It was like what used to happen at the old Garden and that Parquet floor of theirs.

The Lakers tried, but the ball just wasn't bouncing their way. That happens sometimes.

Also, it is clear that at this late stage of the game that Brown and Artest clearly do not know the triangle offense. I lost count of how many times Artest was completely out of position, standing in someone else's spot (usually Pau's or Kobe's) destroying floor balance and spacing.

And Brown? Come on. He just goes out and plays. At least Farmar knows the triangle, even if he doesn't like it.

The bench just sucked.

--FEARless

Most of you punks showing up out of the woodwork are like vapors in the night. Haunting in the nighttime, gone during the day.


Posted by: dwntwn atty | June 11, 2010 at 08:54 AM

Give it a shot. Give us your BEST excuse.

It's true I hide after losses, what about it? My team is still better.

Posted by: Excuses Excuses | June 11, 2010 at 08:48 AM
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Better?!? Better how?

Let's review... Each of Boston's wins are come-from-behind-to-TIE-the-series, while Laker wins are take-the-LEAD-in-the-series...

Hell, at this rate, even if we continue to trade games we STILL WIN!!!

I like OUR chances much BETTER!!!!!

Bynum's knee is concerning, he is a difference maker.

But no matter what, through it all, this team needs to keep fighting.

And someone, other than Kobe or Fish, is going to have to step it up in the final six minutes in these last 3 games.

This is going to be crucial.

All out-1 game at a time!
We can do this!
Go Lakers!

Wow, they really sent the dumb one today.

What's up with theses TROLLS on the live chat, they appear to be RETARDS. Not to Bright, Mentally Challenge or down right STUPID. Go away TROLLS go annoy your CARE KEEPER.

Two champions. Unification bout. One wins by knockout in 6 or by split decision in 7.

Boxing may not be a team sport, but certain principles apply universally. Train hard, great work ethic, mental toughness, focus and determination. Must outwork, outhustle, outsmart and if possible overpower your opponent. Defense, rebound, recover and stamina. Great cornermen(coaches).

Lakers/Celtics, Celtics/Lakers. Two champions. Unification bout. By KO or decision in the finals.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot the trash talking and it helps to have a solid chin. Go Lakers!!!

I like OUR chances much BETTER!!!!!


Posted by: HalosAnt | June 11, 2010 at 09:00 AM

You can play too. Give us your BEST excuse.

What's up with theses TROLLS on the live chat, they appear to be RETARDS. Not to Bright, Mentally Challenge or down right STUPID. Go away TROLLS go annoy your CARE KEEPER.

Posted by: 2Phatt | June 11, 2010 at 09:01 AM

Join the fun. Give us your BEST excuse.

Ron made a promise once that "it won't happen again" back in 2008.

You have two days to put in some extra shooting work so that you're ready to knock down open looks and fulfill your promise.

Get it done.

Troy -

I expect the lakers to win every game GIVEN that they fulfill certain conditions. If we out-rebounded them by +7 (including +7 on the offensive rebounding), I would have expected us to win.

As such, we were out-rebounded by 7 (34-41) and they doubled our offensive rebounding numbers (8-16).

As such, I didn't expect us to win last night; I think a lot of that had to do with Andrew not playing in the second half. No biggie though; I picked the Lakers to win the series in 7 games.

We did hold Pierce to less than 20 (19 pts), and Ray, Garnett and Rondo had more FGAs than points (39 FGAs compared to 35 PTS). We played very solid D for the most part, but the 30 pts from Nate and Glen really bothered us. Glen had a quarter of their offensive rebounds himself (big problem).

Given that we shot a better FG% than the Celtics (45.1 to 44.6), we shot the 3 better than the Celtics (35% to 25%) and that we made one less FT than the Celtics (18/22 to 19/23), the only thing that really bothered us was the rebounding.

If we can do those three, and shore up the rebounding (which I expect us to do if Andrew can play more than 12 minutes), then we should be just fine.

So in short, if the Lakers can do the above, I expect them to win the next two games and the championship. If not, it'll be a battle.

Lamar Sucks and I have to question his heart..RonRon is just an indecisive discombobulated player and they both probably are getting high before the games!

I was actually screamin for Luke to be in the game.

Total disappointment..We got Beyotch-slapped, I will say it, by a slobbin, big greasy, sloppy, piggy lookin ass bench player.

We need our so caled VETS (Lamar, and RonRon who forgot how to shoot) to step the hell up!

Kobe is gonna make mistakes, trying to get those wack asses involved but they also need to have better recognition and come to the ball and of course, take the initiative and drive to the basket for a possible opportunity but jacking up bail out jumpers cuz you are afraid of taking the ball to the hole is playing into the hands of the opponent!

Man up or get the eff out the league!

I still believe but it's fading, not gonna lie!

nemaia - apparently it will also help to have a little stickum to counteract the saliva...

Hey guys, congrats from Spain.

You know i´am not a Laker Fan but a Pau Gasol Fan. I think this Laker team is pathetic. I review alls games in this finals and i can see that Pau Gasol should guard in some moments:

Garnett: Obviuously this is his natural matchup
Wallace: As Garnett´s backup
Davis: As Garnett´backup, too
Perkins: b/c Bynum injuries o fault trouble.
RONDO: (First game and I don´t Know why)

Last game Pau Gasol had play 44 min. vs. Garnett (21), Rasheed (20), Davis (23) and Perkins (22)

To Halost, Mamba24, JusanotherlakerFan,Hobbit and others,

You think this is a normal situation????????
You think that with this matchups Lakers can win this series and Championship???????
You think Lakers Team deserve win this 2010 championship??????
YOU THINK PAU GASOL IS SOFFTTTTTTT?

Pau Gasol is the current Laker Team. He had guard the Celtics point guard, Centers, Power Forwards, Small Forwards, ALL WHOLE FREAKING CELTICS TEAM b/ c This LAKER TEAM IS PURE GARBAGE (Odom, Bynum, Mbenga, Vujacic, Morrison, Brown, Farmar, Fisher, Artest and KOOOBEEE. PURREEEE GARBAGE THE ENTIRE TEAM, also PHIL.

Pau Gasol is SOFFFTTTT, Y UNAA MIERRRDAAAA para vosotros asquerosos. LAKERS ARE SOFT, no Pau Gasol. He deserved the MVPif lakers win this championship, for sure. Lakers Sucks really. PAU GASOL MVP MVP MVP MVP.

Mamba24,

Cheer up...the odds still favor your team.

Games 6 & 7 at home...Perk & Sheed each one technical from a game suspension, etc.

Celtics got luckified. Lakers D played great through 3 quarters. Celtics were lucky that we didn't build a larger lead. There were many opportunities, but the ball just didn't go in. Celtics would get a lucky bounce, or the lakers would just drop the ball.

I give absolutely no credit to the Celtics D.

Lakers defense was outstanding for 3 quarters. D.Rivers kept talking about the open looks and that they would start falling. Sorry dood, the Lakers WANT Big Baby to take those shots. Heck, they want KG out of the paint shooting from the top of the key. We even forced Tony Allen to take a 3. Lakers stomped the Celtics starting 5. We forced the bench to beat us.

Give no credit to the Celtics, they just aren't as good as people think. Any of the playoff teams in the west could win this championship.

Pau Gasol is the current Laker Team. He had guard the Celtics point guard, Centers, Power Forwards, Small Forwards, ALL WHOLE FREAKING CELTICS TEAM b/ c This LAKER TEAM IS PURE GARBAGE (Odom, Bynum, Mbenga, Vujacic, Morrison, Brown, Farmar, Fisher, Artest and KOOOBEEE. PURREEEE GARBAGE THE ENTIRE TEAM, also PHIL.

Pau Gasol is SOFFFTTTT, Y UNAA MIERRRDAAAA para vosotros asquerosos. LAKERS ARE SOFT, no Pau Gasol. He deserved the MVPif lakers win this championship, for sure. Lakers Sucks really. PAU GASOL MVP MVP MVP MVP.

Posted by: ricky | June 11, 2010 at 09:07 AM

Buy this man a sangria.

Points by Lakers in the Finals :

Game 1...102
Game 2...94
Game 3...91
Game 4...89
Game 5...
Game 7...

We have won 7/8 qtrs on their homecourt, their bench comes out and plays out of their skulls and we forget to box out, series tied 2-2 big deal we win game 5 and 6, do you really think the old Celtics are gonan win Game 6 on short rest and cross country flight on the road NO WA Y!! all Sunday really determines is if we win in 6 or 7

Give no credit to the Celtics, they just aren't as good as people think. Any of the playoff teams in the west could win this championship.

Posted by: Lucky Dog | June 11, 2010 at 09:10 AM

I like fiesty ones. Give us your BEST excuse.

Lamar Odumb stinks 70% of the time.

Kobe usually chokes in the Finals.

Bynum is brittle.

Even IF we win this series (which is possible), we need to address Odumb and Bynum in the off season. Ship them out for Chris Bosh and whatever else....

WINTON!!!


Bust out the can of Troll-B-Gone please. And maybe close the screen door too.


What a bunch of idiot trolls on here today LMAO! Thinking your decrepit bunch will pull out a title?? On these Lakers??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Its really sad when u can't beat a offensively challenged team like Boston.

"Dad, how come Kobe keeps giving the ball to that #9 guy at the end of the game?"
Posted by: Get on your Bike and ride | June 11, 2010 at 08:17 AM


LOL Kobe keeps getting jacked and you pple still sporting MAMBA24 on urself. GET urself a BAMBi24 ..

Keep da bacardi rollin ..

Hold on .. Lakers in 6 .. right.. loose 1 more .. i guess it will 7..
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It's increasingly clear the Lakers need Bynum and need him bad.
Gasol-Odom just are not a good enough match up inside.
Posted by: Art - FL Laker Fan | June 11, 2010 at 05:12 AM

Interesting that most of you think Bynum is the key to the series. After all you have Kobe AKA MAMBA .. THE CLOSER... I don't think you should be worried based on that. Lakers should be slaughtering these CELTICS in the next 2 or 3 games.

BTW I am shocked my self.

After watching these 4 games these are my takes on Celtics:
- Celtics have no shooters other than Allen, Pierce, and Nate.. Celtics are really range challenged
-Perkins & Garnett are not reliable on the post. Wallace is slow and old. Baby is the only one effective
-Rondo can't shoot not even FT and Layups - Lakers leave him open and he rarely takes the 10-15 footer
-On top of those challenges they have to deal with Laker Height Bynum, Odom, Pau.. Kobe & Artest got lenght also.. Fisher shutting down Allen

I am not sure how Celtics are in this series. Must be the refs. or maybe .. just maybe.. Celtics got heart!


What a bunch of idiot trolls on here today LMAO! Thinking your decrepit bunch will pull out a title?? On these Lakers??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: justanothermambafan | June 11, 2010 at 09:15 AM

Another fiesty one. Dont be shy. Give us your BEST excuse.

BBD's drooling is the side effect of the concussion he received from Dwight Howard. 8-)

What a bunch of idiot trolls on here today LMAO! Thinking your decrepit bunch will pull out a title?? On these Lakers??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Posted by: justanothermambafan | June 11, 2010 at 09:15 AM
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ROFLMAO! PREACH JUSTA PREACH!! HAHA!!

Sorry if this was covered in previous threads (I've been away from the Blog for a day and I want to dive in now, rather than go back to what I'm sure is a lot of angst-ridden negativity, finger-pointing (at PJ and Lamar) and hand-wringing.

Anyway, the obvious problems the Lakers have with Socks out ought to make it clear that the Bosh for Bynum talk should be put to rest. Andrew is a difference-maker; have to keep him in purple and gold (and, of course, healthy)

It's probably too late (in his life and also this series) for PJ to change his stripes, but he really should have shown a bit more confidence in his bench.

Even a minute for DJ or Powell and a couple of minutes for Luke and Sasha could have helped yesterday (not all at once, of course). But without showing that confidence early, now that it is a 3 game series, well, it is almost too late to put those guys in with so much at stake. Not so for Boston, since they have already got their bench fully prepared to come in for short spells. Thus, in that regard (and sorry to say): advantage Celts.

That said, I still think this is Lakers. I have been saying 6 all along -- but it may get stretched to 7.

2010 Champions = Los Angeles Lakers

2010 Champions = Los Angeles Lakers

agree, sensei,

One thing I'm really glad of is that we don't have Bosh instead of Drew.

The stage known as the NBA Finals has an uncanny resemblance to the one on Broadway. There are the stars and there is the supporting cast. The breakdown for the play requires both.

The road traveled to get there is the same. The NBA has its own equivalent of dinner theater, off-Broadway, and Broadway.

For Ron Artest and Lamar Odom, that dinner theater was Queensbridge, the public housing development in Long Island City, New York. It's where they became friends. It's where they honed their basketball skillz.

It's also just a day trip from Boston, Massachusetts. With the extra day between games, it's where I hope they're going today to get reacquainted with their mojo. As supporting cast members, maybe a strong pick-up game is what they need to re-emerge under the bright lights of TD Garden on Sunday. Maybe it's what they need to shine under the bright lights instead of wilt under them.

Baseball sends its struggling players down to the minors for a week or two, then brings them back after they regain their mojo. Lamar and Thriller only have time for a day trip.

As much as the Lakers need a healthy Andrew Bynum, they also need more mojo from Lamar and Thriller. Boston's role players were the ones making a strong statement on Thursday, the Lakers role players not so much.

For whatever reason, Queensbridge has spawned some amazing contributors to American sports and music. Lamar and Thriller are part of a legacy that includes hip hop artists from "The Bridge," Prodigy and Nas. The Lakers need Lamar and Thriller to be ready to go for the gold record. Maybe some fresh inspiration can help.

With the possibility that Andrew's contributions will be limited, Lamar and Thriller must be ready to step up alongside Kobe and Pau and share the spotlight of responsibility and glory. We've yet to see the best from the Lakers understudies. This is their time to shine.

@131: Present, accounted for & not making excuses (unless you count WAITING TILL I GET A BREAK AT WORK TO POST as an excuse).
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Anyhoo...last time I checked, wasn't DJ Mbenga suited up? We know the Celtics are powerless whenever 2 bigs are on the floor. What exactly was the harm in putting Mbenga on the floor to help us with Big Baby? Especially since LO was M.I.A. for the 9999th time!

I think Odom playing does more damage to the Lakers than Bynum not playing.

If that makes any sense.

Lakers will take care of Celtics just like they took care of OKC THUNDER.. da Mighty Thunder... ERRRR!

Dude I am dying to hear what ROME is saying right now.

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Points by Lakers in the Finals :
Game 1...102
Game 2...94
Game 3...91
Game 4...89
Game 5...
Game 7...
Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD

On your Way Down!


BTW I love dat comment "We forced the bench to beat us". Yeah .. Kobe forced kobe to get jacked by tim allen .. the nobody allen.. kobe forced kobe to have his Killa Mamba Shot Block by da nobody allen.. Yeah u forced a recycled Knick traded as scrap metal stick a fork in u..

r u into dat thing.. where u beat up urself .. masochist or something?

i can totally see Pau Gasoft tied up .. leather.. hmm .. looks totally dat kind a guy.. lol and Phillup watching dat show wid his leg crossed..

1 more thing:

Kobe Bryant is not the best Laker Player, is the second best player in this current team, behind Pau Gasol. He struggles in the finals and in this Finals he become a absolutly disaster, but not yesterday. He shoot to much. His shooting is pathetic and his leadership is pathetic and inexistent, too.

Bynum can´t play b/c injuries. For sure, he gonna be and great adition in the meadle alongside Pau, but he can´t play, game after game, series after series, championship after championship. BIG PROBLEM.

The Laker Bench is pathetic (Farmar, Brown, Vujacic, Powell, Mbenga ????, Morrison) This is a legitimate Lakers Bench????? This players can´t play in the ACB league (spanish league)

Odom is a mental problem. Absolutly incosistent (he can´t play well 2 games in a row all season) Great IQ, great Skills, great body, buttttt, pathetic player b/c his heart, his passion.

Sorry guys, but I think that the only player in this team, the only material Laker player in this team is Pau Gasol, The Finals´ MVP if Lakers win.

Bynum needs to meditate on channeling his inner Willis Reed. That and a huge shot in the knee for the next two games. Time for Odom to step it up and Ron to add some rebounds and points to the awesome defensive play. Fish is due again. Kobe & Pau do your thing. I'm good, we still have home court. As much as I hate even losing one game to Boston I'd love to see it go 7 and win on a last second- down by 2- three pointer by Kobe. On a humorous note you know J Buss is hoping to sell out two more games to pay the Lux tax. Stern is probably getting a kick back. The NBA, where professional wrestling happens. Sometimes I wonder.

Sorry guys, but I think that the only player in this team, the only material Laker player in this team is Pau Gasol, The Finals´ MVP if Lakers win.

Posted by: Ricky | June 11, 2010 at 09:33 AM

Simply genius. Get this man tapas on me.

 
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