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Ron Artest's game-winning shot in Game 5 of West finals still catching buzz

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Ron Artest wishes the Lakers didn’t celebrate his game-winning shot in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals. Instead, a few high-fives and a dash to the locker room would have been fine.

He said he feels this way because he did what he was supposed to do – get an offensive rebound and score, which is further proof that he isn’t one to really enjoy the moment.

But Monday, Artest said everywhere he goes fans are still enjoying it for him.

“When I’m around town, I try to stay out of the public, but when I’m out, they’re extremely excited about that shot,” he said. “I’m trying to remove myself, but they’re extremely excited about that shot. I’m like, ‘All we did was win the game,’ but I guess it was how it happened.”

Artest said after speaking to the media about it, he realized how big the shot actually was, so he “re-winded it like 50 times.”

And he had to admit, “It was pretty cool.”

And, in looking back, he said the moment was a sort of baptism into the Lakers team.

“You still have a long way to go, but it’s like, ‘Yeah, you are part of the team now,’” he said. “It makes you feel good.”

--Baxter Holmes

Photo: Lakers forward Ron Artest (center) is engulfed by his teammates after making a last-second basket to give L.A. 103-101 victory over Phoenix in Game 5 on Thursday night at Staples Center. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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KG sets a lot of illegal screens. Seriously. If you disagree, you're either self-deluded or delusional.

Posted by: E | May 31, 2010 at 10:11 PM

ONE WORD OF ADVICE TO RON ARTEST...........just stay focused .....


ONE WORD OF ADVICE TO RED AUERBACH.......JUST STAY DEAD.....

Mike Bresnahan:

How relevant is it to discuss or write about "Lakers will have some decisions to make this off-season" ?

What a nut you are......patience grasshopper, one step at a time, Lakers have more pressing business at hand than worry about players contracts.


Greetings fellow Lakeraholics!

I just got back from L.A. and was greeted by warm, humid rain in Cleveland.

To note:

"And, in looking back, he said the moment was a sort of baptism into the Lakers team."

It's true. Thriller is a full-blooded Laker now. And I'm confident he's going to play like one.

Regarding Bynum's knee procedure...

I had my knee drained once, more than Bynum did. It made a big difference in a positive way and the effects lasted for quite a while.

I hopeful about this Finals.

It's coming together.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I should somehow figure out how to turn that photo of Thriller celebrating with the team around him into wallpaper to cover my living room.

A Great moment.

We'll see more of them.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Artest, welcome to the Lakers!
Stern, he's doing a great job...

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1) THE MYTH OF ZONE DEFENSE BUSTED BY THE PERFORMANCE OF KOBE BRYANT
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As I have previously stated when you go to a zone defense it's basically telling your players that they cannot guard the opposition. People have always used the zone defense myth to bring up how "tougher" it is to score now. The Phoenix Suns used a zone defense and it did jack squat except to blow it to ultra-level proportions. Kobe nearly had triple doubles in Game 3,4,5 and of the Phoenix series and these are no 10-10-10 of the Jason Kidd variety types.....these are numbers that are Oscar Robertson/Lebron James like! Kobe busted the zones and for those who only bash Pau for his game 6 off night.....consider that he AVERAGED almost 22ppg whether it was zone or no zone! Granted the Phoenix Suns were a very porous defensive team but switching zone?? Overrated. What cost the Lakers Game 3 and Game 4 was the Phoenix offense went to big heights with Stoudemire going for a 42 point game and the Phoenix bench in Game 4 producing one of their best efforts of the year and that was the same bench that helped the Suns nearly rally from big deficits in Game 5 and 6.

So in other words don't believe anymore of the propaganda that zone defense is a good defense. On the contrary hope the Celtics go to full zone so Kobe LIT them up just as he did to the 2-3 or 1-3-1 zones the Phoenix Suns ran! But you will most likely not see it considering Thibodeau has always stressed the importance of MAN TO MAN defense to win and it has not only help the Celtics grow into a good defensive team since 2008 but also made his name as possible head coach in the near future.

2) WHY THE LAKERS ARE BETTER THAN THEY WERE IN 2008
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Already one particular Celtic fan brought up Pierce's numbers again Ron Artest career wise. That is true up to a certain point as Pierce was perhaps the the only other person to consistently do good against Ron Artest (the other person was Kobe Bryant). However as in all things that is the past. Is Kevin Garnett now the MVP KG from 03-04? Would you expect better production from Michael Jordan as a 35 year old in his last title or a 29 year old winning his 3rd title? Same thing applies here. Pierce no doubt is still good. He's the 2nd best rated player on the Celtics team even though he's the captain (see 82games.com). However this isn't the same Paul Pierce as a 31 year old. That Paul Pierce went head to head against Lebron James and averaged 19ppg which includes a 41 point game to match Lebron's 45 point game. Against Lebron this year he averaged less than 13ppg and while some of it was guarding Lebron Ray Allen/Tony Allen had taken that assignment against Lebron. In fact Pierce shot a horrid 34% against James. Yes he did have decent series in the Florida series (Miami and Orlando)which included a game winner but remember that those had very average defenders: Quentin Richardson and a 33 year old Vince Carter (since Barnes's back flared up VC had the assignment on Pierce and VC laid a goose egg both offensively and defensively). Pierce still has a nice jumper and can get into the lane but he doesn't have the quickness as he did compared to his prime (he's still quick don't get me wrong). That's one reason why he couldn't really be effective against Lebron this series since Lebron matched him for strength (if not greater) yet Lebron being 25 had lots of quickness in him and Pierce did not have the same kind as in his prime. The point being is that Artest is 30 years old still in his prime and is still has some of his quickness left not to mention has the physical tools that can match Pierce's strength (one reason why Artest is a BETTER defender against Pierce than say Ariza because really the 2008-2009 Ariza while being a better scorer than Artest maybe didn't have the strength to combat Pierce and against a really physical player like Carmelo Kobe had to get that assignment at the end of games at times). This is one reason why Pierce has averaged only 13ppg on 40% shooting against the Lakers so far in the regular season. Artest will make a bigger difference than Vlad Rad/Walton did in 08 and even help Kobe since many times Kobe had to shift to SF very early and tackle on the assignments to guard Pierce which wore him down on the offensive end.

Then on to KG. yes KG has been doing a very naughty thing to Dwight where he just hammered Dwight's arm that should have been called a flagrant. And KG had a very decent series against Cleveland where Rivers kept making the Celtics feed him in the post since he had a very good advantage against an old man defenseless Antawn Jamison and also in the Heat series where he was defended by a ummm.....Michael Beasley who seems to be a bust despite him being in the NBA 2 years? Garnett for some odd reason struggled offensively against Rashard Lewis and while he did an exceptional job on Rashard KG struggled offensively. Now part of the reason is that Dwight went over and guarded KG more often than not but still. KG isn't the KG of even 08 and while his yell is loud as ever his body does not agree with him. Even in 2008 series when Pau had the main assignment on him KG didn't do exceptionally well only scoring 18.2ppg on a paltry 42% shooting compared to the series with Detroit where he averaged 23ppg on a very healthy 52%. Even though regular series don't matter too much Garnett only averaged 11.5ppg on a average 44% against LA and he had Bynum and Gasol to match up against at times. This time Gasol is much better prepared and has more help at the front line to guard KG and who knows Bynum might have some match at him and while KG still has some nice moves to score......face it this is not KG of either MVP year or DPOY year. He will struggle and he has to guard them and score against them and their names are not Michael Beasley or Antawn Jamison or not even Rashard Lewis.

Ray Allen I won't say much. He will either be hot or cold. Most times he'll have Derek Fisher guarding him so he won't tire out Kobe running throw the jungle of screens.

I'll do more analysis on Rondo vs Kobe and the bench battles in another post. Until then be good and don't be a Mike T. and go insulting other people.

My almost-5-years-old son watched Artest's buzzer beater all day long...like 50 times.
That was indeed inspiring.

I think we should hire Chris Bosh to sit in the stands at all our games for the finals. Just his presence seems to motivate Bynum to play harder. Get it done Mitch!

Good Evening Everyone!

I've been a bit under the weather, so I haven't posted in a few days. I just wanted to say hello to everyone (including Celtics fans) and hope that we can have constructive discussions about the finals.

I'm glad to hear that Andrew got his knee drained. I hope he feels better and is ready to go on Thursday. We're going to need all hand on deck for this series; this is going to be much tougher than OKC, and if we're not ready, we can lose this series in 5.

We've really got to come out hard against them, because you better believe that KG and Paul Pierce will have everyone on their side focused and ready to battle...

#4 Good one!

If you don't love how Ron's teammates reacted to his game-winning shot, then you don't love sport.

I'm reminded of this exchange in the 1985 film "Vision Quest":

Louden Swain: You never took a night off to see me wrestle before. They'll dock you for that.
Elmo: Hey, kid - money ain't everything.
Louden Swain: It's not that big a deal, Elmo. I mean, it's six lousy minutes on the mat, if that.
Elmo: You ever hear of Pele?
Louden Swain: Yeah, he's a, a soccer player.
Elmo: A very famous soccer player.
[pause]
Elmo: I was in the room here one day... watchin' the Mexican channel on TV. I don't know nothin' about Pele. I'm watchin' what this guy can do with a ball and his feet. Next thing I know, he jumps in the air and flips into a somersault and kicks the ball in - upside down and backwards... the god***n goalie never knew what the f*** hit him. Pele gets excited and he rips off his jersey and starts running around the stadium waving it around his head. Everybody's screaming in Spanish. I'm here, sitting alone in my room, and I start crying.
[pause]
Elmo: That's right, I start crying. Because another human being, a species that I happen to belong to, could kick a ball, and lift himself, and the rest of us sad-a**ed human beings, up to a better place to be, if only for a minute... let me tell ya, kid - it was pretty god***ned glorious. It ain't the six minutes... it's what happens in that six minutes.

#4, That's Just Bad Kharma!

Red Auerbach Talks About the Heart of a Champion & That "The Champs Are Still the Champ 'til Somebody Beats Them".

Well, WE'RE THE CHAMPS!!! AND WE'RE GONNA STAY THE CHAMPS!!!

GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!!

This really does have the feel of an epic 70s kung fu saga. Jerry West, who lost 6 finals to the Celtics in the '60s, returns to Shaolin with a new protege, the unbeatable Black Mamba. Jerry and the Mamba return to restore honor to the temple, which has been corrupted by the evil Ching dynasty.


Wes

Blitz,

Good morning. Great breakdown. Looking forward to the next installment.

Good morning.

My, how things have changed here. It took me two cups of coffee to read all the comments from last night. And that's skipping through the trolls....

What will it take for one of you die-hard Laker fans {living in Cali} to come forward and offer Jon K. employment---so he can finally escape dreary Ohio?

Seriously, he seems like an intelligent and decent guy. Not one of you owns a business, or knows one who does, who could put him to work?

Jon K. has been a solid contributor to this blog for years. It`s disappointing to see that there isn`t more of a real life/real world "brotherhood" amongst you guys.

Jon K. has been a solid contributor to this blog for years. It`s disappointing to see that there isn`t more of a real life/real world "brotherhood" amongst you guys. Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | June 01, 2010 at 06:17 AM
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Good Morning Red. I have to agree with you sir. But you may have not noticed we are in the worst recession(2nd worst Depression) ever. Most members are lucky if they are working at all. the reason some of our best bloggers aren't posting is because they lost everything- business, job, Car, house and yes even Internet Acesss) - during this economic nightmare. Once things stabilize, I won't say return to normal because I doubt that will happen, I'm sure there will be many offers of jobs to Jon K. I myself never owned a business. The closest I ever got was the Dot Com scam in which I made a nice bundle and just as fast lost most of it. But us Freakin LA Lakers Fans are a hardy bunch and we can survive most anything. We survived 2008 and now have come seekig our revenge. So while we appreciate your caring and concern for one of ours - we really do - Your concern right now should be focused more on your Legendary Boston Celtics who are about to experience their own nightmare. After we defeat them if the need should arise we would gladly offer Rondo a job. The "Giant Green Bald Headed Lunatic" - I heard that name may have caused you a lil grief, I'll gladly referee for you as I may have been the cause - K.G can have a job as a Greeter in our LA destroys Boston Museum. Doc, well I heard he's leaving any way. Smart man!
The Captain Paul The Truth Pierce, we have a beautiful Wig shop for female Laker fans and he can demonstrate the intricacies of Wigs. Naw that's not nice I take that back sorry. Big Baby, hell we'll let Baby Outlaw teach him how a player should omport himself.
Well Red I treasure these moments but soon it will time to put my Game Face on.(No Puns Red) Until then see that your boys get all the Vitamins and rest that they need. And OH have a Counseler on hand after the Finals are over because the way they will be Destroyed by the Lakers, they may need years of counseling. SEE YOU AT THE FINALS GAME 1!!!!
mamba24

TV Watch:

"The Suns/Lakers NBA Playoff game was the top draw on cable Thursday averaging nearly 9 million viewers and a 3.6 adults 18-49 rating. That 18-49 rating comfortably topped all the broadcast networks on Thursday night, including the premiere of FOX’s So You Think You Can Dance."

[Source: Robert Seidman, "TV By the Numbers"]

Good Morning LakersBlog and Laker Nation. THANK GOD I'M A LAKERHOLIC!
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@KB BLITZ, Do I have to say it?...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!
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This really does have the feel of an epic 70s kung fu saga. Jerry West, who lost 6 finals to the Celtics in the '60s, returns to Shaolin with a new protege, the unbeatable Black Mamba. Jerry and the Mamba return to restore honor to the temple, which has been corrupted by the evil Ching dynasty.
Posted by: wesjoenixon | June 01, 2010 at 04:53 AM
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Yes I think you got that just about right Wes. Lol!
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Red Auerbach Talks About the Heart of a Champion & That "The Champs Are Still the Champ 'til Somebody Beats Them".Well, WE'RE THE CHAMPS!!! AND WE'RE GONNA STAY THE CHAMPS!!! GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!!
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!!!!!
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@CALIPHILOSPHER, I heard honey, tea and Scotch can take care of most any ill. Lol! Take care of yourself Cali, we need your voice here!
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And, in looking back, he said the moment was a sort of baptism into the Lakers team." It's true. Thriller is a full-blooded Laker now. And I'm confident he's going to play like one. Regarding Bynum's knee procedure...I had my knee drained once, more than Bynum did. It made a big difference in a positive way and the effects lasted for quite a while. I hopeful about this Finals. It's coming together. Posted by: Jon K. | May 31, 2010 at 10:39 PM
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Thank you Brother you have alleviated the last worry I had of a complete domination by The Freakin LA Lakers over Boston.
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@Fatty, easy on the coffee sir. Lol!
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Good Morning everyone... IS IT THURSDAY YET?!?!?!?

KB Blitz,

re: 2008-2009. If memory servers, our starting SF was Vlad. The point
differential b/n PP & Vlad explains all of our losses except the blowout.

To put things more clearly: "Space Cadet".

Enough said?

How about: Snowboarding ?

Enough said!

[ note: Ariza was coming off of a broken foot and didn't get much playing time.]

re: 2008-2009. If memory servers, our starting SF was Vlad. The point
differential b/n PP & Vlad explains all of our losses except the blowout.

To put things more clearly: "Space Cadet". Enough said?
How about: Snowboarding ?Enough said!
[ note: Ariza was coming off of a broken foot and didn't get much playing time.]
Posted by: hobbitmage | June 01, 2010 at 06:52 AM
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I think sir, that about explains it all. Excellent post, thank you!
Mamba24

Didn't I say to worry about Cleveland and talk trash to them more on the forums rather than us who at the very least got the 1st seed in the West? Now you boys are paying the price muhahahaha!
As much as I want the Celtics to win so we can kick your butts in the finals can't resist giving jabs to your old men save for Rondo. Paula Stabbed Pierce isn't going to get out of this way with no Posey and Jesus Shuttleworth well he got blame instead of game. KAAYY GGGEEE is beginning to be a grumpy old man. And wasn't SHEEEED supposed to help out in the playoffs but now Doc Rivers is thinking of benching him for Shelden Walliams. ROFL!
Even our Ron Ron is helping us a ton with locking down Durant whom Garnett was crying about him being treated like Michael bleeping Jordan. LOL!
Enjoy your AARP's you three and remember: RASHEED MUST BLEED. Any more jabs? :)
Posted by: KB Blitz | May 03, 2010 at 04:30 PM

We dont need anymore of your analysis ... this speaks for itself!

Who guards Kobe?

That was an article before the Suns series and now has popped up again.

PP had that assignment in 2008 with 1-2 help defenders. The Celtics could lay off the other Lakers to help. This time, the dynamics will be much different.

I think PP will have to stick with Artest, otherwise that leaves Allen or Rondo on Artest and he will post them up down low. So it won't happen.

That only leaves Ray Allen or Rondo to guard Kobe. When the Celtics do that, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kobe post up either of them down low. Just like he was doing to start the season.

Whatever happens, the dynamics have changed quite a bit this time around, that's for sure.

Pierce had Luke Walton and Vlad guarding him, completely different with Artest defending him. I just hope the officials let artest play him without the touchy fouls

Good Morning everyone... IS IT THURSDAY YET?!?!?!? Posted by: HalosAnt | June 01, 2010 at 06:51 AM
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Good Morning HalosAnt, No it isn't. I'm sure you are asking because you are looking forward to the game with anticipation. The Boston Celtic fans on the other hand are asking that question because they are looking forward to that date with fear and dread! Lol. THANK GOD I'M A LAKERHOLIC!!
MAMBA24

RED`S LOVE CHILD:

Who is your daddy?

KBlitz:

You wrote: I'll do more analysis on Rondo vs Kobe and the bench battles in another post.

Response: Wow, really?

Mamba24,

You are the "ultimate" warrior/survivor...nobody will ever question that!

Put Mamba24 in a room with the staunchest fans representating every NBA team, lock the door and windows, throw away the keys, come back 2 weeks later...and Mamba24 is the ONLY man walking out that door! That`s a given!

As for Jon K., and his situation....if he`s too proud to ask, I`ll ask for him.

Now, enjoy your day, and visit the Celtics working out at Pauley Pavilion!

You`ll get to see the team with 17 banners...practice on the floor that produced 11 others!

Artest said after speaking to the media about it, he realized how big the shot actually was, so he “re-winded it like 50 times.”

And he had to admit, “It was pretty cool.”

And, in looking back, he said the moment was a sort of baptism into the Lakers team.

“You still have a long way to go, but it’s like, ‘Yeah, you are part of the team now,’” he said. “It makes you feel good.”
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Well Ron, like it or not, you are NOW and FOREVER will be a LAKER! That shot practically GUARANTEES your spot in the PANTHEON of GREAT LAKER POST-SEASON GAME WINNING SHOTS, along with Magic's Baby Hook vs. the Celts, Horry's 3-point Dagger vs. Sac-Town, Fish's 0.4 vs. San Antone to name a few... And then you followed it up with an AWESOME performance in Game 6.

If you continue that kinda play in this LAST series against OUR MOST HATED RIVALS, well my friend, let's just say that will certainly CEMENT your place with THIS TEAM!

And Pierce, you can study all you want but you will NOT PASS ARTEST!!!!


@RED'S LOVE CHILD, you sir are the consumate warrior/politician. I appreciate those nice sentiments Red. Also I'm really looking forward to seeing those 17 Banners hanging in... STAPLES CENTER after next year. But until then enjoy Bostons status as top Dog. I guess that will be something that you can console yourself with after the Lakers defeat them this year. But Red, RED! after the Lakers win their 17th next year how will you handle the trauma. Not you personally - I know you can handle it - but those fragile, delicate psyche other Celtic fans I fear for them. OH THE HUMANITY. So on behalf of Jon K and myself, thank you for the kind sentiment but sorry THE DESTRUCTION OF THE BOSTON CELTICS WILL CONTINUE AS PLANNED. See you at Game 1 Finals Red.
Mamba24

Response: Wow, really? Posted by: Hall of Famer | June 01, 2010 at 07:26 AM
Kevin McHale is that you!
Mamba24

And Pierce, you can study all you want but you will NOT PASS ARTEST!!!!
Posted by: HalosAnt | June 01, 2010 at 07:37 AM
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CLASSIC!!!! And...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!
mamba24(larrY)

RED`S LOVE CHILD,

I appreciate the sentiment.

Actually, Ohio isn't ALL bad. Even though it is another gray, sullen day, while walking my dog this morning I came upon a small baby fawn crouched in the grass. Holding my dog close, I was able to get within about 18 inches of it and sit beside it for about a minute before it let out a panicked "BLEET!" and ran off into the brush.

Oddly enough, that's the second time this has happened in the last week.

A pretty neat experience.

Outside of that, this is no place for a Lakeraholic. You have NO idea how much conflict and slings and arrows I've suffered at the hands of drunken LeBroniacs over the last few years. It shocks the civilized mind (and I certainly don't consider myself to be the most civilized man on the planet.)

Anyhow, we're beating your team in the Finals.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Paul Lee,

"I just hope the officials let artest play him without the touchy fouls."

You and me both, pal.

Let 'em play, refs!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Magic Phil: "My almost-5-years-old son watched Artest's buzzer beater all day long...like 50 times. That was indeed inspiring."

I have noticed that all my friends' kids are both smarter & more talented than they are (and they're some pretty smart & talented people). Now to see your youngster is even a bigger fan... it gives me hope in the future.

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LET EM PLAY REFS' - BANDWAGON
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(01) PAUL LEE - OWNER - Pierce had Luke Walton and Vlad guarding him, completely different with Artest defending him. I just hope the officials let artest play him without the touchy fouls.
(02) JON K. - DRIVER - You and me both, pal. Let 'em play, refs!
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN = Let em play refs!!
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Magic Phil WROTE: "My almost-5-years-old son watched Artest's buzzer beater all day long...like 50 times. That was indeed inspiring."


SHOULDN'T THE KID BE DOING HIS HOME WORK INSTEAD OF WASTIN TIME "ALL DAY" , AMERICA NEEDS QUALIFIED HOME GROWN WORK FORCE AND NOT SOME WANNABE JOCKS

mamba24:

Not Kevin McHale but ex Lakers

UNLESS YOUR NAME IS "DONAGHY", YOU GET PAID THE SAME REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME.

LET 'EM PLAY REFS!!!

GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!

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LET EM PLAY REFS' - BANDWAGON
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(01) PAUL LEE - OWNER - Pierce had Luke Walton and Vlad guarding him, completely different with Artest defending him. I just hope the officials let artest play him without the touchy fouls.
(02) JON K. - DRIVER - You and me both, pal. Let 'em play, refs!
(03) MARC B - RIDING SHOTGUN - UNLESS YOUR NAME IS "DONAGHY", YOU GET PAID THE SAME REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME. LET 'EM PLAY REFS!!! GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
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(05) MAMBA24 - SECURITY = Let em play refs!!
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