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Lakers Coach Phil Jackson takes a few lessons away from Cleveland's loss to Boston

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It's the "national story right now that everyone's discussing," as one reporter put it to Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, but he really had nothing to say about Boston's six-game upset over Cleveland in the NBA Eastern Conference semifinals.

"I don't," was all Bryant replied after practice Friday when asked what he thought about the series. Clearly, Bryant has other things to worry about, what with the Lakers gearing up for their Western Conference matchup against the Phoenix Suns that begins Monday. His short and clipped answers Friday also came in response to the more typical pregame questions, you know the ones about the long time off between games, his health and the Suns' personnel.

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson seemed more reflective. He took a question about how critical a team's fundamentals become during the playoffs and diverted it into a commentary on how Cleveland's 22 turnovers in its Game 6 loss to Boston ultimately doomed them. "That's really the issue about these games," Jackson said. "You want to limit those turnovers because you're always going to pay for it at some level."

With Jackson already bringing up the topic, I asked whether Cleveland's second consecutive early-round playoff exit serves as a teachable moment, highlighting how a league-leading regular-season finish doesn't automatically guarantee postseason success. Jackson presented an interesting response in the video below.

Jackson brings up several points that easily relate to the Lakers. The first one involves trades. Even though Jackson doesn't explicitly state it, it's fairly obvious he brought up Cleveland's acquisition of Antawn Jamison from Washington to serve as a contrast to the Lakers' decision not to make any trades before the deadline. I had argued at the time that one approach doesn't vastly bode superior to the other, but from the Lakers' standpoint, I understood their reasoning in wanting to keep the current roster intact. Besides salary cap implications, Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak felt generally happy with makeup of the roster since it reflected the 2009 championship team with exception to Ron Artest being in place of Trevor Ariza. Though there have been legitimate concerns regarding the point guard position, the bench and the inconsistent defense on pick-and-roll plays, I had believed that the Lakers could absorb those problems. I had also feared that with a team that had struggled with establishing continuity, partly because of both injuries and effort, bringing in new players would only disrupt that plan even more. 

Then came Jackson's contention about the Cavaliers that "they had a great team and their effort was surpassed by Boston's in the situation." As many justifiably speculated how the Cavaliers' early exit would affect LeBron James' future with the team, it shouldn't at all diminish how well Boston has played. That goes the same way with how well Oklahoma City played against the Lakers. Though there were several areas, namely transition defense, the Lakers could have improved, the Thunder gave a quality effort, but the Lakers responded and have publicly said that the series helped spur better play in their semifinals matchup with Utah.

The Lakers' success partly points to how they benefited from playing the Jazz, a talented and hard-working team that really lacked the depth and size to compete with the Lakers' frontline. When you add the fact that Bryant's health improved dramatically, the Lakers benefited from a perfect storm of fortune. That's not to say this wasn't planned. There is a reason why the Lakers spent the last month of the regular season limiting minutes. But it still remained unpredictable whether the Lakers could suddenly click once the postseason began. 

Now with the Lakers playing engaged in the last two months and the team becoming healthier in the past month, the team has been playing its best basketball at the right time. I don't think the moral of the story with Cleveland's early loss suddenly justifies the Lakers' approach in mostly viewing the regular season as an annoyance. Instead, it speaks more to how it's rather unpredictable whether a team's good or bad performance in the regular season will translate into the postseason. That being said, I have grown a greater appreciation by witnessing first-hand how the Lakers have handled adversity. There were certainly moments highlighting on-court frustration and mini-dramas (take Artest's complaints on Twitter regarding Jackson as an example), but they were all minuscule in nature and the team never let any of those problems magnify into something consequential. While the Cavaliers simply folded under adversity, I can't overstate enough how the Lakers' maturity helped prevent problems from escalating. It's hard to actually quantify this area other than looking at how possible worst-case scenarios never came to fruition. 

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Cleveland center Shaquille O'Neal is staying calm even though the Cavaliers trail the Boston Celtics, 3-2, in the Western Conference semifinals. Credit: Gregory Shamus / Getty Images

 
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sorry to interrupt your program but this is too much

We Are LeBron Video

http://www.break.com/index/we-are-lebron-video.html

i really feel brain washed

Kobe and Phil are in their proper places right now. Kobe isn't (publicly) concerning himself with the events in the East and Phil has simple appreciation for this past weeks events. You can bet the they won't know how many chickens they have until the final buzzer of the last game (yeah, mixed metaphor. So what!). The guys don't care about Lebron, Pierce, Howard, or anyone that they aren't playing for a couple of weeks.

Their itinerary:

1. The Suns
2. too far in the future.

JR


Not many people noticed this but apparently Lebron is coming to the Lakers. After all, he was quoted as saying this:

"I want to win. That's my only thing, my only concern. I've always prided myself -- it's all about winning for me."

Now that can mean only one thing. As we have already seen in his international career he ONLY wins when Kobe is on his team. So he must be aiming at joining the Lakers. The only problem is - not cap space - but whether Jerry Buss wants a perpetual loser on his squad. After all, what would happen is Kobe was really injured (beyond the point of playing on one leg or with eight fingers, which he has been doing for some time)? Lebron would be alone to lead the Lakers, spelling playoff disaster.

Over the past 7 years people have complained about Kobe's selfishness and secretiveness and praised Lebron's extraverted, sharing with his teammates attitude. Yes, he shares and piles up assists, but he doesn't lead. He doesn't motivate. He doesn't demonstrate his own commitment and therefore can't elicit it in others.

The verdict is out: Kobe is well on his way to a fifth ring. Lebron is on his way to his first billion dollars, his only real objective... along with being idealized royalty, born with a divine right (Philosophers call that solipsism, n'est-ce pas, Cali?)

The difference between the two?

Kobe is a basketball player with an ego. Lebron is an ego with a basketball!... except when it gets away from him in the late stages of playoffs.

By the way, Lebron might be able to guarantee his first billion simply by having his "team" (and of course I don't mean the Cavs) making insider bets on where he's going to end up.

Phoenix looks like a much better defensive team than they were in the D'Antoni years. Amare actually looks interested in playing defense these days, and Grant Hill is playing the versatile role that Shawn Marion played several years ago. Of course there's no Raja Bell to guard Kobe this time around, but I think Hill should do an adequate job...he's an underrated defender.

Phoenix will probably front the post a lot like OKC did, so good entry passes will be key again in this series. And they'll probably double Pau and Drew in the post, so Ron and Fish will be tested again from the outside.

It should be a fun series. I wanna see a Kobe buzzer-beater, a Kobe dunk over Nash again, and hip-check thrown in there somewhere.

Raja Bell...though he's no longer on the team, there's another reason the Lakers need to pound the Sun's into a scorpion crossing the highwayt...that takedown/throwdown of Kobe was never paid back....Mr. M'Benga, the team would like to speak to you, I'll donate $1000 for the fine.

I meant toward the fine, not for the fine, which will probably be about $50K.

MM

I'm sure you've heard this once too many but GREAT JOB!!

One can only appreciate your impartial but objective insight on everything you write. Video interviews are the icing on the cake except for the fact that a lot of the times I cannot hear the questions and lately I've been having difficulties hearing the answers!!! They say our hearing goes first... is that a fact?

Our LAKERS are focused and ready to play whoever!!! Can hardly wait for Monday to see how we match up against Los Suns.

GOOOOOOOOLAKERS!!!!!

"I had also feared that with a team that had struggled with establishing continuity, partly because of injuries, partly because of effort, bringing in new players would only disrupt that plan even more." - PJ

Well, Lakers are now in the WCF, so why would a Coach disappoint the players who were not traded. Naturally, he would say it might have disrupted the continuity of the group. On part of the F/O, they did not trade because nobody is attractive enough that would help their bottom line & less luxury taxes too. From the rumor mill, Lakers offered Ammo + Sasha for Hinrich, Bulls countered Ammo + Farmar which are two expiring contracts. Lakers declined because Sasha and Hinrich salaries will add more to luxury taxes. At that time, Hinrich has the same FG% with our PG's. Well, you saw how Hinrich played in the 1st round, don't you think he would have difficulty in adjusting with the triangle. If Gasol and Ariza whom we got during the season as well as Shannon Brown, they all got adjusted well and helped tremendously the Lakers, I think Hinrich being a good player, he can also adjust with Laker offense.

Since the All Stars, just review the comments on this blog how they regard our PG's they have been inconsistent just like the players themselves. There are games where Fisher gets good reviews same with Shannon and Farmar and there are games where they're the goats who could not chase any Blazers or the Thunders.

Question, must we carry on those circus of opinions for the next season as if there are no more PG's available in the open market except on what we have? (In retrospect, if Mitch and PJ tell us all JUMP, we all jump because they are the GM and the Coach) I heard this kind of excuses during the time of Smush and Kwame, resistant to change and a belief that they are all coming around. It took Kobe's rant and threat before they opened their wallets. Must we always be wary to make changes because of the the complexities of the triangle, a belief that we don't need a good PG. Yes we don't need a PG but we still need a good shooter, defender and a facilitator who will feed Kobe and the touches suggested by the two towers. Today, if you ask any b'ball experts what is the inherent weaknesses of the Lakers? The common answers are the bench and no PG's & lots of SG's. That may be the reason why Kobe acts as the PG who brings the ball from down court during crucial minutes.

Ehem, Strongly disagree that is not admissible in this blog these experts are not lakerholics they are Sir Charles, BSPN analysts, they are the Mark Medina's and KBros' who are Laker haters LOL! who don't possess the passion in believing our bench is better and PG's are at par with any team. Lakerholic is akin to a religious faith, there is no room for doubt but just BELIEVE. Lmao!

Edwin,

I wouldn't worry too much about our PG position. Once we get LBJ, Fish can be our starting PG til he's 50 :)

What about Sasha as our starting PG of the future? He's a discount version of Hinrich. He's a big guard who can play pesky defense, can shoot well, and has decent ballhandling skills.

TShpere:
"Kobe is a basketball player with an ego. Lebron is an ego with a basketball!"

tight

Tsphere

what makes U think that Kobe wants to play with a loser and also a clown? remember there were stories about US team on one extreme pulled to party by Le None and winning by Kobe?

he already has a delusional clown on his team who pads the stats and chokes when needed to win or whines not wins. his name is Pau Gasol? and his little brother LO? and the old grandpa Fisher?

"I want to win. That's my only thing, my only concern. I've always prided myself -- it's all about winning for me." LBJ

that's his only excuse for a choking job: last year he throw the TEAM under the bus. this year is the coach and indirectly the management.
how many broken wheels and fragile souls does Kobe has to drag after himself ?
and let's not forget PJ

I like LBJ and Kobe too in one team, perhaps the Olympic team but not possible with the Lakers. Why? The exchange is brutal which means no more Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Artest etc. Because of their high salaries, you can't get anymore help from the salary cap max. It is a repeat of Shaq and Kobe high maintenance era. Ego of players have inflated salaries and there is no more turning back to the time of Magic and Larry Bird. Lebron is all money therefore he's Nets, Bulls, Knicks. He wants his cake and eat it too.

So, the latest mania here in Akron is that Gilbert is willing to pay Phil Jackson $15 million to coach the Cavs next year if it will mean LeBron staying. According to this story, Dr. Buss is only willing to pay Phil $10 million next year, I assume because that's how much Dr. Buss will make this year when all is said and done.

Anyhow, it all sounds crazy to me.

All this mania about this one player when within a few years Kevin Durant will be surpassing him and playing for the Lakers.

Annoying.

As Lakeraholics, we've got Kobe Bryant who I firmly believe will retire with 5-7 rings... and all the media can talk about is this clown called "King James."

Non-Lakeraholics have no idea how infuriating that is.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Hey, I wasn't seriously suggesting bringing Lebron to LA (maybe the Clippers... but in that case I couldn't see Lebron sharing the town with Kobe). I was just saying that if Lebron is serious about winning he should choose to go with the only winning formula he's experienced: i.e. having Kobe as a teammate .

After all, Shaq did it, won three titles with Kobe on his team and wouldn't have had another if that other MVP choker, Nowitzki, hadn't choked after going 2 games up with a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter of game 3. When you think about it, Lebron and Nowitzki could be twins: both of them very tall with skill sets of shorter men, both of them extremely talented (in different ways), both of them getting once to the finals, both of them leading first seeds to early playoff exits.

As for Shaq vs. Kobe, what will Shaq's rap song be this June when he realizes Kobe's made it to 5 (+ 2 other appearances in the finals), while Shaq retires with 4 + 1 after bumming around with random teams for three years in the wild hope of making a difference?

As long as the Lakers remain in the Buss Family they will remain a winning program.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

LeBron James and Kobe Bryant on the same team would be like Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal on the same team but much, much, MUCH WORSE.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

This whole LeZero thing is such a terrible distraction.

All that matters now is the Suns.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

about suns series.. one interesting stat...

jrich avgs against lakers this season..
8.8 Pts 30%FG.. he scored only 4, 5, 10, 16 pts in 4 games.

his total season average is 16Pts 47%FG

his last season stats against lakers 10.5Pts 37%FG

can we not infer then kobe owns jrich?
from my experience watching i've noticed he loses his swagger when kobe dominates him.

nash and amare will get theirs in this series but the question is where is the rest of scoring gonna come from? IMO jrich is the key to their series... hes on a hot streak now and they will only go as far as they take him.


surprised there hasnt been more discussion centered around shaq...

phoenix just went from missing playoffs with him to WCF without him...

cavs just imploded... he killed their chemistry and slowed their tempo.. i remember right after trade many argued cavs would be stronger.. opinion were split down the middle then.. wonder what them shaq lovers think now...

curious to see where shaq goes and for how much.. is he worth more than MLE? what playoff contender will take the chance?.. shaq just stated he wants to play another 3 years... i know deep in his heart he wants to retire a laker... imagine that...


i bet shaq would lick kobes boots just to get that chance.. boy how times have changed...


Yeah, Shaq want to retire as a Laker, after all, the 3 rings, 3 Campionship MVP's....How hokie would that be if he has his jersery hung in Orlando 1 failed trip. Miami for 1 successful one, and hey, it was his party town. Deep down we know he wants to go down in history as the greatest center ever. In reality, he may have been, but like Jerry West, just was on teams that could not seal the deal. His only chance is to spoken about in conversation including Mikan, Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Kwame (just kidding) and himself, is to do something special and that would be return at a scarifice, absolute minimal pay (see Karl Malone). With his jersey on the Staple's center wall, for having left on bad terms, he gets an edge. I seriously think he will want to play his last year as a Laker. Imagine that, Kobe having to deal with Lebron, the other scenario and Shaq. I think Kobe is man enough to do it. He's not the skinny 175 lber that was pushed around by all his team in his first few years). As long as it's clear that this is still his team, then it's possible. Even today, we talk about 1a. Kobe and 1b. Pau, because Pau is that good. and he is. However no one would dare to say it's Pau's team now or in a year or so. As I say, Pau is one of the best players on the planet, check his resume.Both Shaq and Lebron are weathy, perhaps the 2 wealthiest players in the NBA.If they want to be Gollum and chase rings, the all I can say is...well isn't that "precious!"

Speaking about hanging jersey's, where are they ever going to do about the Sonic player's who had their jersey's hung, or would have, such as the Glove, Gary Payton.

Edwin

Just to clarify the following sentence I wrote is not from Phil Jackson: I had also feared that with a team that had struggled with establishing continuity, partly because of injuries, partly because of effort, bringing in new players would only disrupt that plan even more.

That is what I said.

MM

Carlos DeeP - I've noticed that too and am still trying to figure out why that's been an issue since I hear the audio fine when I'm recording. I'll continue to tinker with it

MM

Just watched an ESPN documentary on the Lakers` 2009-10 season, called "The Association".

Watching Phil Jackson trying to walk is gruesome!
Compared to Jackson...John Wooden has the mobility of a teenager!

"So, the latest mania here in Akron is that Gilbert is willing to pay Phil Jackson $15 million to coach the Cavs next year if it will mean LeBron staying. According to this story, Dr. Buss is only willing to pay Phil $10 million next year, I assume because that's how much Dr. Buss will make this year when all is said and done.
Posted by: Jon K. | May 15, 2010 at 12:46 AM"

If it were me, I would rather not take a raise, and continue to work in the greatest city, in my opinion, with the greatest chance of winning championships. Jon K., Phil made over 30 million in Los Angeles in salary and speaking engagements, and book deals (you know there's always one in the works", and the benefit of a warm bed. At this level of money 5 million isn't enough. As a coach, he's accomplished it all, hands down, he is the greatest NBA coach ever, I'm not even going to comment about those guy like Lenny Wilkens or Don Nelson, who rack up the numbers but do it by amazingly having a job.....Phil's winning percentages are 71% career/70% post-season (and probably 15% pre-season), Popovich is 57%/62%, Sloan 60%/49%, Larry Brown 55%/53%, Carlisle 59%/48%......these were considered the 5 best coaches in the 2010 playoffs.....funny, MiKe Brown didn't make the top 5.....but not bad 66%/59%, I bet that will fall very quickly.......

how is Magic Johnson these days? doing the Riverdance with Le None?

Pau Gasol's Resume?

same like Le None's: 2 stats padders during regular season

Qualities: fizzling under pressure

Character: self denial, delusional, pointing fingers around and last by not least:

throwing co-workers UNDER the bus.

wonder how that Pick & Roll will work: who will pick on who in case of failure. and who's head will roll first. James intimidates the Management while Gasol totally sucks up to them. and the LOSER is: ________________

MM, I'll concede you're less of a hater than the K-Bros, but a mamba faithful you're not. Still enough laker fans fall into your bucket so I ain't complaining. But 4 the record, while you're gaining an appreciation for how the lakers face adversity. Understand this our man Kobe has led us through good days and bad days with an unflinching resolve. When the blog was going haywire about our woeful pg play, mamba faithfuls were quick to point out that Kobe has always been more than willing to take up those duties during the playoffs. MJ+Pippen is what the lakers have always demanded from him in the playoffs and he's always brought that and then some. So whenever you're ready, quit trying to make sense of how we succeed and understand the #24 will do w/e it takes including icing his knees 24/7 to get us a W.

Like really, which type of company wouldn't kiss the ground they do business on to have an employee with the knowledge and talent kobe has and still outworks everybody in the company.

Simmons never fails to be a jerk:

["Kobe -- Greatness. Yes he's going to win some, but only because he wants to be considered great and that will be a by-product at times. But you'd also see him shoot his team out of a game; jack 3s when he should press the issue and get to the paint. He didn't mind losing a few games if people came away saying 'Kobe is great; look what happens when he doesn't shoot.'"]

Really? 81 points wasn't born out of look ma, I can ride like wilt. Nah it came from ma I'm in hell but no effing way I'm getting blown out by a raptors team struggling in the east.

What must our man do before the nay sayers start to acknowledge what he's done for the game since coming to the league. Some have mentioned the olympics, when Gasol bled purple and gold for the spanish team ... who was there to remind him his swagger was misplaced on that night ... who on a team full of stars wasn't blinded by the bright lights of the moment ... the same kid that took it upon himself to try and get a win against utah when nobody felt it was his time

Kobe's already great ... but u best believe that as long as the shot clock is still ticking he's out there doing w/e he feels best to get a W. And if that means jacking up 3s then so be it ... in or out, he'll go to sleep better knowing he tried ... and if getting Gasol the ball is what the defense gives us ... then assist or turnover he'll rest easy knowing he tried

My mvp moment in the magic series came in game 4 ... down 3, howard under the basket for an easy dunk and kobe has the presence of mind and the strength to wrap him up ... some guards might have gone big guy on my radar nothing to be done but not #24 ... and the basketball gods rewarded his will to win with 2 howard misses at the line ... and y'all know how fisher got the ball to hit the 3 that sent us into overtime ... Nuff said

Simmon's article started with:
[My son wakes up between 5:30 and 5:50 every morning....]

I swear my first thoughts were omg, who let this jerk spawn a kid who's bound to be conditioned by his father to grow up into yet another jerk. Then I'm thinking I'm a jerk for thinking that, but I stumble on the kobe hate @ the end of the article and I'm like effing simmons strikes again.

From the Sheriff's office to Simmons, we can only hope your celtics show up in the finals so we can give them a beatdown that will hurt every time you type the word lakers. We want the celtics so effing bad, but 4 now we'll make do with the appetizer: nash and his band of misfits.

yellofever which sg doesn't kobe own? don't be too hard on JRich ... besides he wasn't around for the 2 summers the suns scorched us

Jon K.
[As Lakeraholics, we've got Kobe Bryant who I firmly believe will retire with 5-7 rings... and all the media can talk about is this clown called "King James."]

I have that number at 8 rings ... with a jersey switch back to #8 the year he gets his 8th ring

Come on kids,

Some of you would have us believe that Lebron James wouldn't win a ring, THIS YEAR, if he had Odom, Gasol, Artest, and Bynum as team-mates, with Phil Jackson as his coach? Really, please explain?

As far as Kobe getting 8 rings???? You sure about that? Some folks think he'll be doing great just to get one more, and that probably won't happen this year, if it ever does.

The old guy's (in fact most of your team is) gonna be plumb tuckered out after your first two games (losses) against Los Suns, or whatever they're calling themselves at the moment. The last two (in this sweep) will be blowouts.

Oh, and stop making silly comparisons with Michael Jordan. Kobe's a great player, but please. We're talking Michael Jordan here! Get real!

Maybe Tyreke one day, but Bryant? Nope. Been there, done that. Had his chance. It's already happening. Let it continue to fade gracefully. Besides, Lebron (at age 25) is already better than Kobe ever was. In your hearts, you know I'm right, now don't you?

And stop drinking that San Gabriel River water. It's got stuff in it that's making you delusional. It just ain't right. I like ya you little sheepsters, but it's got ya all messed up. Just stop it!

Sonnybelfast

Payton's jersey will hang in Seattle for the Sonics if a franchise ever expands there or moves there. The team and its history remained in Seattle as part of the deal when Bennett stole the team.

I don't want Snaq even at the minimum. He's a cancer.

I don't view LBJ as cancer, just an overhyped player with a Shaq-like ego. The Lakers will not attempt a sign & trade; therefore the only way he comes here is if he takes the MLE; the only way he takes the MLE is if Magic Johnson hands him the keys to the kingdom.

Hmmm, maybe this is part of Magic's grand plan and why the blasphemy...

LBJ on the Lakers without a sign & trade would be pretty much the end of the PG woes. Put Kobe there and keep everything else as-is. There's no way you could stop that team, but also not enough touches to go around: Pau thinks he gets forgotten now, just imagine what would happen...

Do y'all know the only way to defeat trolls?

The golden light from a trophy at the end of the playoffs.

re: LBJ on the Lakers. If you move Kobe to pg, then yes it
works. The Lakers can't do it because of $$.

If LBJ has grown hungry enough to take a pay cut to come play with
the Lakers, then great. *I* would prefer to have a backcourt of
D-Wade & Kobe vs Kobe & LBJ.

segeboy, the naysayers will never stop naysaying. They are who they are.
However, if Kobe can grab another 3 rings ... It will reveal them as being
"HATERS".

Just imagine the conversation:

Simmons: "I don't know for how many more years I have to listen to these
people talk about Kobe Bryant. He was a jerk. he is a jerk. He'll always be a
jerk."

Kobefan: "2 Olympic golds. Undefeated in international play. 2 scoring
titles. 1 MVP. 4 Finals MVP's. 7+ rings. 16 NBA allstar games. 4 allstar
MVP's. 12 all defense teams, 81 pts"

Simmons: "That means nothing. NOTHING!"

Kobefan: "Remember the championship he won with a broken finger on his
shooting hand?"

Simmons: "Like that means anything. LBJ was always better than Kobe."

Kobefan: "And that's why he kept losing?"

Simmons: "I blame the coaches & the refs."

Kobefan: "You do realize that Kobe defeated all of his peers? You do realize
that Kobe defeated the next generation of superstars as well, don't you?"

Simmons: "That means nothing. NOTHING! Look. If LBJ had had a good
team and a good coach, he would have won 5 times in a row."

Kobefan: "So when Kobe had Shaq, the Lakers won because of Shaq. When
LBJ had Shaq, Shaq wasn't a good player? "

Simmons: "Shaq couldn't be expected to carry the team. He was getting up
there in years. "

Kobefan: "So you know that Mike Brown was coach of the year, right? "

Simmons: "That means nothing. NOTHING. My dead grandma could have
coached that team to the finals!"

Kobefan: "So you're saying that bad coaching allowed the geriatric Celtics
to beat your boy like a drum?"

Simmons: "Doc Rivers out coached Mike Brown, ok? Brown was out of his
league."

Kobefan: "Did Stan Van Gundy out coach Mike Brown the year before that?"

Simmons: "LBJ was young then. He didn't know how to win."

Kobefan: "You realize that Kobe had won 3 championships by the time LBJ
was given his first MVP, right?"

Simmons: "LBJ was the MVP starting in his first year. It just took people a
while to notice him."

A nurse comes into the room with a cart.

Nurse: "Mr. Simmons. It's time to take your medicine. "

Simmons: "Nurse, why do you look familiar to me? "

Nurse: "My name is Gianna Bryant. I decided to go into nursing instead of
the WNBA. Now be a good boy and take your medicine."

Simmons: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........"

Kobefan: "Well, what do you know? There is justice in the world. bwa ha ha
ha ha .... "

As for Kobe and MJ: One is more skilled and the other was more athletic.

As for Kobe and LBJ: One is more skilled and the other more athletic (and a freak of nature at that).

So when I say his game is the most complete ever, I'm talking skill-wise and mental-wise. There's more to being the best than just that though.

You're a fool if you can't see Kobe winning at least one more ring, especially when the Lakers would be hands on favorites against any of the remaining teams.

Only a Queen would think like that

G in DC

I'm a post behind, but I'd like to see Shaun Livingston get a tryout, too. I threw the idea out there a couple of weeks ago and asked if anyone knew what he was like as a Clippers teammate, and one of the Laker faithful (was it wesjoe or jon k?--my apologies for not remembering) said he also followed the Clips and had heard only good things about him.

One can't help but root for a guy that actually made it back from an injury like his.

The "HoopsHype" precis on him is this: "Very big for point guard standards [sic]...Great vision of the court...Good ballhandling skills...Takes care of the ball...Not a great threat from beyond the arc...Too weak...A terrible injury put his career in jeopardy...Not much explosiveness left."

Whether you agree or not, let's assume it's an accurate assessment--good ballhandler, great vision, low turnovers seem enough to offset a lack of 3-point shooting. While everyone screams for a great 3 point shooter (the Ammo dream) what's more important on this team as configured?

Random Lurker,

you wrote: Whether you agree or not, let's assume it's an accurate assessment--good ballhandler, great vision, low turnovers seem enough to offset a lack of 3-point shooting. While everyone screams for a great 3 point shooter (the Ammo dream) what's more important on this team as configured?

my response: a 3-pt shooter.

We need to keep the floor spaced to open up the interior. We don't need
a great ball handler, because the triangle is predicated on passing not
dribbling. We have penetration skills because Kobe & Lamar can drive &
dish. For pg, I'd rather have a speed demon with a 3-pt shoot than a
great dribbler.

hobbitmage--

true

"We need to keep the floor spaced to open up the interior."

I agree.

"For pg, I'd rather have a speed demon with a 3-pt shoot than a
great dribbler."

Can't argue with that, either.

While I don't think I was saying I wanted a great dribbler over a speedy and deadly 3 point shooter (got someone in mind?), I did broaden the question too far.

Given the dollars and little risk, why not give him a shot?


Tsphere -

I don't think that's quite solipsism (the view that you are the only think that exists; or you're only completely sure that you exist and are not sure of whether other people exist); I thought that's something else - hubris perhaps?

I thought that your post was quite fantastic - I especially liked the analogous comparison between Kobe and what's-his-name.

I think one lesson we can learn from the Boston series is to step on the other team's throat early and often (just like voting - do it early and often). :-)

yellofever: "i bet shaq would lick kobes boots just to get that chance.."

Your anatomy location is a bit low...

Go Lakers! One, Two, Three, DOMINATE!!!!!

Mark Medina,

You're now a night owl, answering mails at 2:38 AM while asleep when trolls are here. (jk)

Well, no change that's ok Lakers can absorb this one all the way to the Finals. We are just fortunate our natural enemies have helped us dislodged ambitious teams who would like to take over the Lakers. First, in the West the noisy Thuggets who proclaimed themselves as new conquerors in January lol! thanks to D'Will and the Jazz; Second, the Mavs re-seeding the team with good trade with Wizzards, also noisy headed by billionaire Cuban when Lakers were lame at the last week of the season, thanks to the Spurs. Third, the Cavaliers who proclaimed themselves as the new title holder in February during the All Stars Games, crowned the new king MVP, too many predictions they so gooood with the help of media then their balloon popped against the lowly, Shamrock Leprechauns. Thanks but no thanks.

In summary, Mark M. we did not need the change, we survived two series now going against the new Sheriff, Nashty & the Suns. For late bloomer fans, they consider this a WCF series one step for repeat Finals. For old timers in the blog, this is not just a series of games - this is an opportunity for REVENGE, PAYBACK, REDEMPTION against the meltdown of 2006 and 2007.

-Remember the last perimeter shot of Tim Thomas, that was really painful;

-Remember what Luke said recently: "That one was tough," Walton said. "That was when Smush had been starting all year and he started acting up and they ended up benching him a couple days before the playoffs started. I was struggling that whole time with my ankle, couldn't get that thing healthy."
~~Good, it sounds Luke is ready for redemption play. I vividly remember he made only 2 pts. on the last game against the Suns in '07. That's July 1,2007, Mitch gave him another 6 years extension to perform an injured role. I hope he could add 1 more pt. at least an average of 3 pts. per game if he plays more than 5 minutes. He was hurt then, he was still hurt today and he'll continue to hurt the Lakers till 2013 if he does not improve his game.

-Remember the Kobe rants in 2007 which brought back memories of fans cynicism against the Buss dysfunctional and Mitch Kupchak's stall. We fell in the abyss of disunity, doubt and dejected in abandoning Kobe by surrounding him with a bunch of scrubs from '05, '06 and '07.

Therefore, RISE UP LAKER FANS, DISPLAY YOUR FLAGS. IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP LA.....WE ARE HERE FOR REDEMPTION TIME,THREE DAYS TO GO AFTER THREE YEARS WAIT..... RISE UP Mamba24 please sound the horn of the bandwagon PAYBACK .

Jon K. said:

"LeBron James and Kobe Bryant on the same team would be like Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal on the same team but much, much, MUCH WORSE."

So does that mean more than 3 titles together?

Shaq/Kobe was an unbelievable playoff 1-2 punch - maybe the best playoff team ever. If you could stand to sit through the regular season with them. I know Shaq left, and I KNOW they didn't get along. So it is pretty common among Laker fans to dis Shaq. But he was one of the best I've ever seen in the playoffs, and I immensely enjoyed the three titles he and Kobe brought to LA.


LeBron will not be a Laker, by the way.

Kobe vs LeBron?

When the question is compelling enough for marketers to use it as a link to an advertisement, the ad is the answer.

Michael didn't have a foil.... Neither does Tiger, which says something about the era as well as the player.

Federer vs Nadal, Michael vs Prince, Magic vs Larry, Cosby vs Pryor, Beatles vs Stones, Tu Pac vs Biggie, Frazier vs Ali, Jon K vs Mike T...
greats that made their eras great.

Kobe vs Lebron is an advertising gimic, it's been no contest so far.


MM,

This is a good post. Some thoughtful stuff. Especially when you talk about this team's weaknesses and their ability to win anyway.


EVERY team has weaknesses. You can't put together a team that doesn't. Sometimes, instead of patching the holes, you have to learn how to maximize your strengths.


Also love giving credit to Boston, a great team that simply beat the Cavs, and to OKC, who played the Lakers very well. The NBA has a lot of good players/teams in it. Nothing can be taken for granted. You have to play hard and execute the game plan or you lose.


A long team will always struggle guarding the pick and roll because long guys usually don't have great lateral quickness. That doesn't mean you get smaller, it means you use your length better than the other guys use their quickness.

Ouch,


Lol. You are killing me. That is so funny, and sad at the same time. He is more than just a basketball player the thses people. But I see your bad song and raise you one:


http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1712678


Wes

Forget about Cavs...
now is to beat Suns...and go for Final...
I believe ECF will go for 7 games...and by then...Lakers will be too much for them...

GL Go Lakers....the great.

sonnybelfast: "And stop drinking that San Gabriel River water."

That Sacramento Kool-Aid and LeWhimp Jello Shots you've been downing is laced with LSD!

---------------------------------------
sonnybelfast: "Maybe Tyreke one day... Besides, Lebron (at age 25) is already better than Kobe ever was.

Tyreke hasn't played long enough in the NBA to even warrant that conversation. And LeWhimp has how many rings?

Listen Super Troll, you're obviously a "Cow Town" Lover with Delusional Hopes that LeWhimp will come to "Cow Town" and somehow make your team a contender. With all of the talent LeWhimp had in Cleveland (According to Charles "Up Chuck" Barkley, LeWhimp is the best player on the planet and the Cavs were the best team in basketball), How Many Rings Does LeWhimp Have? ZEROOOOOOOO!!!!!

At Age 25, Kobe already had THREE RINGS!!!!

Who Does Michael Respect More? KOBE!!! You Don't Hear Michael Saying He Texts LeWhimp Everyday, But He Does That With Kobe.

You're Just a Hater SUPER TROLL with Delusions You Wouldn't Even Find in a SCI-FI Movie of the Week!!

GO LAKERS!!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!!

"Just watched an ESPN documentary on the Lakers` 2009-10 season, called "The Association".

Watching Phil Jackson trying to walk is gruesome!
Compared to Jackson...John Wooden has the mobility of a teenager!

Posted by: RED`S LOVE CHILD | May 15, 2010 at 03:27 AM"

I saw that as well, another thing I saw in person withing 10 feet was Phil walking around in Honolulu, after coming back from hiis 1 year sabbatical. That has horrifying. He looked like a T. Rex with serious arthritis. He was about 100 lbs overweight. and was wheezing in the hot gym. Since then he has had 2 hip replacement surgeries, and he looks considerably better. He lost most of the excee weight he picked up from probabably too many beers with Luc Longley. His frame struckture has always been abnormal, with those shoulders (described as "clotheshangers) in many books, the long arms, The hips, even thought repaired don't allow him to walk like Richard Gere. As long as he doesn't start to slide, and his life-partner (J.B.) keeps him happy, I think he could do another 3 years. His body came to be because of genetics and the fact that he threw his body around as a hussle guy, much the same way that Rambis did.

Edwin.....about Walton, I think he offers little and will offer little through the rest of his contract, which is probably untradeable. That's I say, put a clipboard in his hand and raise his basketball i.q. He will need it fot his post playing days as either a commentator like his dad, or a coach of some kind. I Imagine his fundamentals in his mind are sound but it's just his body that doesn't allow him to perform them. I say make him a player-assistant coach.

I like Worthy's part the best in that song. Then Magic. I also like the appearance by the original Wes Mathews.


Wes

Jon K,

"All this mania about this one player when within a few years Kevin Durant will be surpassing him and playing for the Lakers."

What makes you think Durant will be a Laker in the future? As I've stated before, he seems to be like Tim Duncan - a guy that's more suited for a small city and loyal to one franchise.

"LeBron James and Kobe Bryant on the same team would be like Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal on the same team but much, much, MUCH WORSE."

Why would it be worse? LBJ clearly has respect for Kobe that Shaq never had for him. I see nothing but multiple championships with Kobe and LBJ leading the way.

hobbit,

"*I* would prefer to have a backcourt of
D-Wade & Kobe vs Kobe & LBJ."

Why? LBJ is younger and is less likely to physically break down than D-Wade.

I'd rather have Kobe remain at SG and LBJ at SF...all we would need at PG would be a sharpshooter to space the floor. And I think LBJ's strength and athleticism would be a better complement to Kobe's amazing skills...just like Shaq complemented Kobe so well back in the day.

humananomaly,

"If it were me, I would rather not take a raise"

Me neither.

Personally, the idea of Phil Jackson leaving L.A. for someplace else fills my gut with panic. Awful idea.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

EJK,

"What makes you think Durant will be a Laker in the future?"

Nothing except wishful thinking.

We've always somehow nabbed the righ superstars.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Tom Daniels,

"So does that mean more than 3 titles together?"

Touche.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Humanomaly 29 minutes,

"That's I say, put a clipboard in his hand and raise his basketball i.q. He will need it fot his post playing days as either a commentator like his dad, or a coach of some kind. I Imagine his fundamentals in his mind are sound but it's just his body that doesn't allow him to perform them."

I'd say promote him to being a spokesman of the Lakers, retire that old John Black. Luke is handsome and loves to talk, he could be the face of the Lakers. lol! The clipboard you're referring at is reserved for Derek Fisher as playing-assistant coach for next season. He could play as the 15th player if needed but will be in training new sets of PG. As an assistant coach, he replaces the role of Kurt Rambis. With these moves, Laker just opened two positions, therefore get young breed of stallions who can shoot better, jump higher and run faster. Tired of seeing Ammo and Luke sitting on the bench wasting 10M per year.

GET ON THE BLOG LAKER FANS AND RAISE THE LEVEL OF NOISE. FORGET THE CRAB AND LETS DEFEAT THE SUNS. SHOUT...RAISE THE FLAG, JOIN THE BANDWAGON.....POP UP THE VOLUME@!!!$

Jon K,

We'll take oklahoma's pg if Durant is untouchable ... though i can very well see him coming to LA for the opportunity to study under obi wan Kobe

hobbitmage,

I find out that simmons is in some retirement home and i got the loot ... i'm buying that home and showing kobe highlights all day in simmons room

Caliphilosopher,

"solipsism"

I will always remember a night in college at a party where a HOT drama student was going on and on about how she was a goddess and how all of us were part of her dream and that we only existed as a part of her whim.

My acquaintance (who had romantic designs upon her), listened intensely, and when she was finished with her rant, paused for a moment, and then said with deep dramatic emphasis, "Logic must be very important to you."

He slept with her later that night.

Ah, the wonders of living.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

MM,

I see you've started letting threads run for a while ... kudos dude

EJK,

"Why would it be worse? LBJ clearly has respect for Kobe that Shaq never had for him."

Dude, LeBron is broken goods. You have no idea how this guy has been worshipped out here since he was 17. Locally speaking, it's WAY worse than what Jordan got out of Chicago.

It would be unhealthy for any human being, but for LeBron, who already has plenty of issues, I'm sure it's turned him pathological.

They guy is condemned to be a loser.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

hobbitmage,

"Do y'all know the only way to defeat trolls?

The golden light from a trophy at the end of the playoffs."

This is truth.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

LeWhimp's career is tracking Dirk No-Blitzkrieg's!!!!

-------------------------------------

Meanwhile, Jedi Master Kobe-Wan Kenobi and his Legion of Jedis are diligently preparing a game plan that will Rapidly Undermine Darth Stern's Sinister Plan to "Redistribute the Championships".

As if salary caps and fines for speaking their opinions about the league aren't enough, the Dark Side Villains have initiated a new and more sinister approach to controlling the Association.

As we have encountered all season, the Evil Sith Lord, Darth Stern, (by day posing as the mild mannered NBA Commissioner Stern) has replaced the league's objective referees with Clone Drones, bent on calling every phantom foul on Jedi Master Kobe-Wan and his Legion of Jedi Laker teammates while allowing their opposition to hack the Lakers without so much as a whistle.

The NBA league officiating is truly the "Phantom Menace"! The True 6th Man of the Laker's Opposition!

Master Obi-Phil, breaking out the Book of Triangle (originally written by Master Tex Winter (aka Yoda)), has started using Jedi mind tricks on the Suns and the league officials in order to even the playing field. Having achieved Grand Master status with 10 rings, his Force powers are strong enough even to control the mind of lesser Sith Lords.

Master Obi-Phil: "You don't want to clog the middle."
Sith Lord Gentry: "I don't want to clog the middle."

Master Obi-Phil: "Your team is content with chasing the ball around the perimeter."
Sith Lord Gentry: "Guys, chase the ball around the perimeter."

Master Obi-Phil: "Ref. Nash is palming the ball."
Clone Drone Refs in Unison: "Hey Nash! Stop palming the frakking ball!"

Meanwhile, Master Kobe-Wan and his Legion of Jedi Laker Teammates will use the Force to Pound the Ball Inside!!!!

[Star Wars Theme plays in Background as the List of Laker Championships scrolls across the screen]

To be continued...

Kobe versus LBJ: Irrelevant, especially now the "King of Pain" isn't even in the play0ffs anymore

Should the Lakers get LBJ: Irrelevant, they aren't getting them next year or next couple of years so who cares

Celtics versus Magic: Irrelevant, Lakers have no control over the outcome and either team will be tough to beat

Lakers not underestimating the Suns: COMPLETELY RELEVANT

{Secret Agent Report}

As the final minutes of the Cavs most recent loss ticked down, my second most informed LeBroniac turned to me, arms crossed, almost trembling in frustration and anger, and muttered, "He's no Kobe."

Across the room, a nameless face shouted at the big screen bitterly, MVP!"

[Signing out.]

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I too will be forever grateful for shaq and the 3 rings... BUT I still think about what couldve been.. If only shaq wasnt such a lazy lardass maybe we win 6 rings or more.. If only he was more dedicated he couldve been the most dominant freak of nature in the history of the nba... Instead he was too busy makin business deals.. signing endorsements, busted shoe labels, bad record labels, stupid movies, eatin too many whopper and fries with nacho cheese (shaq value meal)... Not to mention toe surgery during company time and showin up to every camp at 500LBS and costing us homecourt adv every season...

Yeah I appreciate and won't ever forget...

EJK,

you asked/wrote: Why? LBJ is younger and is less likely to physically break down than D-Wade.

I'd rather have Kobe remain at SG and LBJ at SF...all we would need at PG would be a sharpshooter to space the floor. And I think LBJ's strength and athleticism would be a better complement to Kobe's amazing skills...just like Shaq complemented Kobe so well back in the day.

my response:

1. I read an article about Jerry West & Kobe Bryant. The article indicated
that putting Jerry West at pg extended his career. Therefore, Kobe at pg
extends his career.

2. Hands down, that's the best back court in the NBA.

3. D-Wade is a better competitor than LBJ.

4. Artest is a better defensive SF than LBJ regardless of what awards are
given. If Artest uses Kobe shooting program this summer, one can hope
that he will become better just like Ariza.

5. D-Wade is only 2 years older than LBJ. You have no proof to support
that D-Wade will break down any time before LBJ. One can make the
argument that the big leaps of LBJ will cause an injury faster.

6. D-Wade is actually more skilled than LBJ. Ignore the stats & look at the
games. Wade's game is closer to Kobe's than LBJ's. I believe Wade is a more
consistent shooter. KB Blitz can verify this.

How's that?

Hey guys we got a new thread up

MM

As a lifelong Lakers fan, I am extremely sorry to say this, but I am obviously obligated to say this here. I had a dream where Rahard Lewis hit a game winning 3 pointer over Grant Hill in the Game 7 of the NBA Championship.

As such, I believe that Phoenix will beat Lakers in six games (4-2).

This is my dream, whic has been very prophetic in the past, and even as a lifelong Lakers fan, I feel really adamant about this,

hobbit,

1. I don't see how putting Kobe at PG in the Triangle will extend his career when the guard positions are interchangeable and ballhandling duties are distributed fairly evenly.

2. No argument there.

3. How so? Just because he has one ring from four years ago?

4. LBJ has all the tools to be a better defender than Ron, esp in the quickness and athleticism department. I don't think we'd lose anything on defense with LBJ at SF.

5. I believe LBJ has been more durable throughout his career than D-Wade.

6. I agree that D-Wade's game is closer to Kobe's - and that's the reason why I'd rather have LBJ with Kobe. You want a guy who brings different strengths to the table. And when D-Wade's quickness fades, will his game be nearly as effective? It's easier for bigger players to deal with a loss of quickness than smaller players like D-Wade.

I just watched...

http://www.break.com/index/we-are-lebron-video.html

I know these personalities.

1. I will say that Dick Goddard is nearly as good as Dr. George Fishbeck and that's saying something. (Not as good, mind you.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YY8slevwg

2. Am I the only one who sees how fricken pathological this obsession with LeBron James is?

3. For the last several months I've had to open my club with this orange-haired frankenstein of an Akronian who just rips into Kobe, calling him a rapist on a daily basis while extolling LeBron James as the best player of all time and saying no one can beat the Cavs. It was beyond obnoxious.

After the Cavs were eliminated, he came in and I said to him with a thin smile, "Do I really have to say anything?"

He shrugged, looking down and said into his chest, "I really wasn't that big of a basketball fan, anyhow."

4. I struggle to communicate how deeply this community wants a savior. They want someone to save them so badly because they are responsible for this community sucking so bad and they cannot help themselves.

I am constantly reminded of Peter Lorre's soliloquy in "M" when thinking of this city.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDUbxsNjV0&feature=related

The compulsion.

The bullheadedness.

It's a weird cycle of hope and disappointment and resistance to change. "If I just do it more, it'll work better!"

My grandfather was from Slovakia and there's a Slovak joke, "Slovak problem solving method: If something's broke, hit it with a hammer. If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer."

Well, there's a lot of Slovaks out here and it kind of summarizes the problem solving method.

And they know it. Deep down, they know it.

And no one from the outside is going to be able to tell them how to do it otherwise....

But then there's LeBron James: Akronian. One of their own.

He's an exception. He could change everything. HE could be the ONE. THE SAVIOR!

The problem is that he IS one of them. He's an Akronian and he is subject to the same disease as everyone else. It's sad.

There's a phenomenon of "graduating from Ohio" where people who are more competitive or creative ultimately leave. Many of them then head to the West Coast where they talk about how shallow Westerners are and how people are more real in the Midwest. Untrue.

It's weird, but it's part of the culture and a constant concern out here. The brain drain. "Idiocracy" in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0yQunhOaU0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0O7_3o3BrI&feature=related

"It's got electrolytes!"

There's a reason the movie "Gummo" takes place in Ohio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Hg8bIFu-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85fXiDFraS8&feature=related

But people don't want to really be like this. They know something's wrong, but they don't know how to change. They feel like they need someone to save them and they've found that figure in LeBron James, to whom a nearly slavish devotion has developed.

It's weird, but understandable.

The problem is that LeBron James ain't that guy.

If LeBron James had the character of, say, Derek Fisher, he could be that guy, but he's not. He's the guy who wants to get out of Ohio... because that, too, is part of the culture here.

In any case, some sportswriter should write a book on this whole process because it is utterly fascinating (at least from my perspective).

In short, I don't think he's going to stay and most Northern Ohioans don't think he's going to stay either.

My gut tells me that LeBron is going to leave, the community is going to panic, the Cavs will leave Cleveland within three years, and Michael Holmgren will lead the Browns to some level of past glory and the entire community will unite around that success with extreme furor.

Despite everything, despite all the failure, despite all the disappointment, one thing I can say about this community is that hope springs eternal. The upside of their stubborness and their desperate bullheadedness is that after every failure, they pick themselves up again, and go out and get themselves a bigger hammer and start pounding away at that rock.

In the end, this place has always been a football and baseball town. It's never really been a basketball town until LeBron showed up. When he leaves, it'll return to what it has always been... a football and baseball town, as those two sports better reflect that temperment of the community than basketball.

And, sooner or later, the Browns will turn around, Holmgren giving them their best opportunity since Art Modell left under the cover of darkness. And when they do, maybe there will be some change in the thinking and expecations here in Ohio.

But don't expect miracles. Cultures change with the rapidity of aircraft carriers making 180 degree turns.

In the end, Ohio will always be Ohio and, in some strange ways, that can be a good thing.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

We need to keep the floor spaced to open up the interior. We don't need
a great ball handler, because the triangle is predicated on passing not
dribbling. We have penetration skills because Kobe & Lamar can drive &
dish. For pg, I'd rather have a speed demon with a 3-pt shoot than a
great dribbler.

Posted by: hobbitmage | May 15, 2010 at 08:53 AM

I'M WITH YOU ON THAT!!

I loved "Idiocracy"!!!

Foil means something is used to contrast the opposite. So in the case of Jackson, I highlighted his mention that Cleveland made trades. The Lakers didn't make trades. So that foils it (or serves as a contrast)

MM

What has Kobe done without Phil Jackson? I think people love to give Kobe all the credit, but without Phil Jackson he'd probably be playing for the Clippers. All you guys say how Kobe wins championships for YOU, and he's a "team player"... Remember when all he did was cry that he didn't have a supporting cast, complain about Phil saying he'd rather Shaq than Kobe, and demand he be traded? Oh, and don't get me started on the rape. How quickly you all forget about how everyone said Kobe would be nothing more than a point scorer. Now all of a sudden he's god? Come on people. Great player, don't get me wrong, but he hasn't done anything by himself and doesn't care about anyone but himself. There's something to be said about a player that when he misses a game, the team doesn't miss a beat. With Kobe out of the lineup this season people were actually debating whether they were better without him. Lebron misses a game and the Cavs, though the players are talented, they look like a bunch of 5th graders on the floor.

You guys are in for a rude awakening if Phil leaves and shows you all that HE won those championships, not Kobe. If Phil coached the Cavs I guarantee they'd be great too.

I loved "Idiocracy"!!!

Posted by: jefe101 | May 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Was that the Movie, or the Bush administration?


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