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how the heck do u sign in?

I have read everyone of dfish's comments and truly believe he should GO. He has yet to make a positive comment about anything and this alone should be enough to ban him! I for one and tired of reading his nonsence.....

Back out to the workshop with a smile on my face. Unnecessarily tough win, but I'll take it!!!

JR

Lakers win, but show lack of urgency. See next thread for details, LOL.

I think the Jazz just realized they're not playing Carmelo Anthony anymore.

The story of the game: too much Kobe, too much length. That will also be the story of the series.

I'm very happy we won.

But, IMO, Phil Jackson made the LAKERS STARTERS win this game TWO TIMES.

He let the starters sit a bit longer than needed, it's as if we were leading by 20 plus points early in the fourth. It looked to me like Kobe, Pau, LO saved him.

Mr. Ten rings almost lost the game for us for the 2nd consecutive game. Thank god we have Kobe Bryant to bail Phil Jackson out once again. Please Phil, get that weak stuff out of here. You made the win harder than it ought to be. Thank you Kobe. You are simply the G.O.A.T.

Total Jeckyl & Hyde 4th quarter by Lamar.

At the start, he was more responsible than anyone for losing the lead. He jacked a wild 3 early in the shot clock, got picked when he tried to post up, and Paul Millsap owned him in the post on the other end. Then the starters came back with Odom for Bynum and the first thing Lamar did was brick another 3. Why do you shoot a 3 early in the clock when you have Kobe, Pau, and Fish on the floor?

Then towards the end, he was getting every rebound and got a couple of putbacks.

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Bynum was also pretty crappy in the start of the 4th. The guards actually got the ball in to him 3 times, but he had two bricks and a turnover.

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The important thing is that the Lakers survived.

And the defense was still good. Utah shot 49% during the regular season and 51% during the first round vs Portland. Lakers held them to 44%. That's how you win championships. Hope they can keep the good defense up.

Kobe's starting to look like Kobe again. That bodes well for the future series as well.

Complacency is our teams opponent this second round and not the Utah Jazz, they can put a dagger in the Jazz's heart if they want or just tickle them.

"Kobe's starting to look like Kobe again. That bodes well for the future series as well.

Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan"
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You are right LTLF. HE'S BACK!!!

It's because the finger has now officially healed, as announced few days ago.

kobe saved PJ's butt and he does not give him props. what a loser

Any updates on Sasha? He was bringing back the Machine before he got hurt. We desperately need consistent outside shooting right now. And we could use a guy who can annoy the opponents and get people kicked out of games.

"Bynum was also pretty crappy in the start of the 4th. The guards actually got the ball in to him 3 times, but he had two bricks and a turnover."

LTLF I think you should expect a Laker Tom choir of "non-believer!" and a barrage of insults saying Bynum is the franchise player and those 5 blocks Pau got belonged to Andrew and try to make up Bynum's mediocre (since he didn't do horrible but at the same wasn't a major force compared to Games 1 and 5 of the Thunder series) performance and that Stern is sabotaging Bynum's statline to make Pau look better then try to mask it up with Kobe reference. (Remember he did not give Pau any credit for the game winning shot and for those saying it was lucky remember Kobe doing the EXACT same thing in Game 4 of the 2002 Spurs series). To be fair to Bynum he hasn't opened his mouth and complained like he did last year so he's still in my good graces at the time being.

Hmm Kobe scored and was Kobe for the past few years......maybe he didn't take up Laker Tom's wet dream of him being the lock down defender all the time (It was Artest on Williams most times until the end) and instead making Bynum the next Shaq.

Kobe does look back I think the finger is strong once again. Of course being guarded by a rookie does help too but does not take away that he was again clutch as clutch can be.

Good win next game up.

In his postgame interview someone asked PJ if, in retrospect, should he have put the starters back sooner when Utah made their run and cut our lead to 1. PJ said there is no retrospect. The bench played well in the first half, and he needed to give them opportunity out there to turn it around.


PJ's got the ultimate goal in mind - win the Larry O. If we lose a game in a series, WHILE the bench get their mojo back, so be it. It's not ideal, but PJ knows he'll need the bench to be more confident as we go through this. I hate the fact that we came so close to losing, but if the bench doesn't get their confidence destroyed by getting yanked cuz of every mistake, it can only bode well for us and pay dividends in the long run.


PJ knows he's got Kobe waiting in the wings if need be. Tonight he needed him. Hopefully Game 2 it won't even be close.


GO LAKERS!!!

Nothing but another title will suffice - Kobe Bryant

2nd unit are sleepwalking in the 4th taking it for granted, no lock down defense, no sure shot and too much outside shooting by LO.

These are bad habits in flipping switches again. If there is a job on hand, finish it first before hot doggin'. Farmar on Price; Walton on Koerver, Odom on Milsap are the alignment of no defense front line givin the advantage to Utah.

from reading this you would think the Laker's lost.

Stop your whining this is the playoffs, every team poses a problem.

PJ tried get the bench to get out their funk; thats his why the lead was lost. the arm-chair coaches please shut up and go back and sit on the couch.

the bottom line is the starters stepped up, and regained the lead and won the game.

jeez, you so called Laker fans that whine about everything make me sick. go jump on the Cavalier bandwagon, as you don't deserve to be a laker fan.

¿Gasoft? Not too bad today.
25 pts 12 rbs 4 ast 5 tps
Not a beast, not a boxer... just a very good player at work.

Wow, what a solid performance! Lakers in 5 if they bring it in Utah! Hey, can someone tell me what the +/- stat refers to?

KB Blitz

the guy w/Bowl Hair cut has a long post game interview. he can't grow 2-3 inches till tuesday but definitely he can find a hair stylist in LA

MM: Please update us on the health status of Bynum. Any complications after today's game?

Too much Kobe.
Is he fun to watch or what?
One thing this game showed is the Jazz have no answer for the Lakers top 6.
Jazz can't win a 7 game series against the Lakers, but they are tenacious.
Kobe Kobe he's our man,
if he can't do it,
Ok, goofy, nevermind.

How do you log in?

GOOOooooOOO LAKERS !

5 down 11 to go for #16.

from reading this you would think the Laker's lost.

Stop your whining this is the playoffs, every team poses a problem.

PJ tried get the bench to get out their funk; thats his why the lead was lost. the arm-chair coaches please shut up and go back and sit on the couch.

the bottom line is the starters stepped up, and regained the lead and won the game.

jeez, you so called Laker fans that whine about everything make me sick. go jump on the Cavalier bandwagon, as you don't deserve to be a laker fan.

Posted by: Tony | May 02, 2010 at 03:54 PM
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Agreed Tony. Some posters love to complain despite winning the game. When are they going to realize the teams they Lakers are facing are among the top 8 teams. The world revolves around them and the Lakers. They only see the Lakers and their mistakes. Not consideration for the other at all. They want the Lakers not to make mistakes and win by 100 every game and not lose.
Either that or they are Plaschke and Simers wannabes.

JohnnyP.

To log into the chat, click on *make a comment* above the chat.

It is only visible during the live chat.

KevinDing tweets on Bynun's health:

Bynum said minor surgery (sidelining him for maybe 2 weeks) is possible eventually for his knee but isn't necessary now.

Bynum on surgery: "If I don't need it, I'd rather play like this." He felt "sharp pain" on Q1 landing but it went away.

"the guy w/Bowl Hair cut has a long post game interview. he can't grow 2-3 inches till tuesday but definitely he can find a hair stylist in LA."

HAHA Bowling Cut Chin Strap will probably never get a fro.

Keep up making fun of those who diss Kobe k?

Whats the difference between...

DFish always hating on Fish and going after Jon K

and

KB Blitz always hating on Bynum and going after Laker Tom

If you picked to the Lakers to win in 4 or 5, nothing in this game should make you change your mind. Having said that, the Lakers should quit playing with their food.

The same group LO, Drew, Brown, Farmar, and Walton, that stunk in the 4th quarter, actually played really well in the 2nd quarter and seem to extend the lead. That must drive PJ nutz. In the 2nd quarter they were throwing the ball into the post and getting good shots. In the 4th they didn't move the ball and the took a lot of bad shots.

Let's enjoy the harder than expected win today. PJ made a potential blowout game into a nail-biting game out of it. Thanks god we have Kobe. I know that PJ is trying to get more time for our bench but dang! The way they played at the end of of 3rd QTR and at the beginning of the 4th QTR, it seems like they've never played together before in their life. Surrendered 13 points lead is inexcusable!

I think Lakers got two days off. Next game is Wednesday.

Go Lakers!

Don't ya all think Kobe playing the entire 4th would be less demanding than seeing a nice lead go to a deficit and having to bail us out?!

yup, this is pretty much all old school lakers- blog panics and nitpicks, lakers win.

Laker's dawg it again. Up by 14. Phil plays the bench way to long and it gets tight, again. The Jazz were underhanded with injuries and the game seemed like slow motion and Mamba has to bail it out.

Oh, what's with this Deron Williams seemingly can't lift either arm (LBJ anyone?), but can play like no one's business?

Oh, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in purple and gold, ha, ha!

Gotta give Fisher props, played well. Has played better in the Playoffs than regular season, but that's what I have come to expect from him. If we are lucky enough to get a really good starting guard, Fisher would be a valuable asset off the bench next year

KB Blitz always hating on Bynum and going after Laker Tom

Posted by: Magia32 | May 02, 2010 at 04:26 PM
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I don't hate Bynum. Yes I've been very critical of Bynum many times (lots of times legit) but I don't hate on Bynum. And there's other Laker fans who hate Bynum more who basically want to trade his injury prone self for other pieces which has its pros and cons.

As for Laker Tom while him and I are very agreement on everything save for Andrew Bynum. You probably know how big of a Bynum fan he is but then again he doesn't let Bynum take that much criticism and it was really puzzling to see that in his recent posts he did not give any due credit to Pau for either the 18 rebounds and game winning shot and electing to talk about more the difference Bynum makes and belittles Gasol at center at allowing dunks and layups when with Bynum there are also dunks and layups too.

Hobbit also doesn't like Bynum though like me hopes he doesn't get too injured that would make the Lakers regret signing him to a $12 million deal when he hasn't produced the consistency that we seek from him.

This was also a jab about those who say Kobe should always guarding the best player and assume his team USA role when Team USA was more talented than even these Lakers just so Bynum can have his previous 25ppg and become the next Shaq. Kobe is Kobe not a PG who is supposed to give 22 year old center who hasn't been as consistent as a franchise player should be. Bynum is good as I've said many times and does not suck but he's not the consistent force that people (like Staples 24) feels he is and that Kobe's game should be sacrificed to the point where he is a PG just to let Bynum try to become the next Shaq.

In the playoffs the bench matter more than at any other juncture. Sure the starters create the real dominance but the bench maintains or exceeds it. It can be the difference between a close series, a close game or a battle. Tonight, the bench let us down. Plain and simple.

They need to find some semblance of consistency (I know they're bench players so consistency isn't all that expected but some would be good) and thus far they've shown they're selfish, unfocused and totally not deserving of the mob title.

I have faith on the bench, I know they'll get right and show us the kind of effort they showed in Game 6. They can do it, but it's time for no excuses and execution instead.

GO Lakers! Go Bench!

Nail biter to me is a last second buzzer beater type of game. I guess to the negative Laker fans, a "nail biter" is:
1. Any margin under 10 pts?
2. If the Lakers are either tied or trailing in the second half even if the game was put out of reach in the final minute of the game.
3. If it's not a blow out, it's a nail biter.

All that matters is that we won. I don't care how we do it and who gets credit from game to game as long as we win. 5 down and 11 more to go!!! nuff said.

lol there was never any chance that game was gonna be a loss...but that's just my opinion.

There's nothing to see here. Please keep moving. Thank you.

Nobody is panicking, nobody should be spoiling either.....

You saw the Celtics/Cavs yesterday and the Suns as well as the Spurs. What we are pointing are the bad habits of flipping switches. If you have been following this blog, then you know what we mean. However, if you are just blogging now and you're a super lakerholic, then you have the tendency to be complacent and spoiling a W. Do you want a repeat or just get in the WCF?

@Nemaia, I agree. A win is win, no matter what and who won it for the Lakers. Classic basketball games are not those of blowouts, they are the ones that were fought from start to finish. It is the playoffs guys, can you just be happy Lakers won?

All the experts have already given LeBron the NBA title to go along with his 2nd MVP. Enter Kobe Bryant. Nuff said.

If this first game was lost after a commanding lead, you will hear a loud boo'. In fact, they already heard it after losing 8 pts lead.
Are we in the playoffs? Yes
Should we respect the Jazz? NO, just annihilate them
Why are Lakers fans not satisfied? Because of bad habits developing in front of our eyes which we have been accustomed to in the last 82 games plus 6 games.
Why are we under estimating the opponent? No Kirilenco, No Okur that's equivalent 20 pts from Utah's score. Therefore, Lakers should dominate from get go and no let up. That's the only way a restive fans are satisfied. That's the standard of laker lakerholics. Kill, Kill and don't let the enemy get back and retaliate.

Nemaia, we don't care about lebron vs. kobe; we don't even care about who should be the MVP; we don't care what media says; what we care is pure business of REPEAT. To hell with everybody, just run them all by a fast moving Lakers Express and move on.

Nobody is panicking, nobody should be spoiling either.....

You saw the Celtics/Cavs yesterday and the Suns as well as the Spurs. What we are pointing are the bad habits of flipping switches. If you have been following this blog, then you know what we mean. However, if you are just blogging now and you're a super lakerholic, then you have the tendency to be complacent and spoiling a W. Do you want a repeat or just get in the WCF?

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 02, 2010 at 05:39 PM
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Excuse me? First of all, I didnt say some of the fans here are panicking. Second, tendency to be complacent and spoiled? This is entertainment. I do not have money invested in the Lakers. I watch these games as an escape and I am not going to make my life miserable only because they did not win convincingly. Yes, I will be disappointed if they lose.
Do I want a repeat? Absolutely. But today's game does not determine if they are going to win or not. I've seen this team dominate in the playoffs and lose in the Finals. Game 1 is nothing but a win for the Lakers.

Lakers in 6

Nobody is panicking, nobody should be spoiling either.....

You saw the Celtics/Cavs yesterday and the Suns as well as the Spurs. What we are pointing are the bad habits of flipping switches. If you have been following this blog, then you know what we mean. However, if you are just blogging now and you're a super lakerholic, then you have the tendency to be complacent and spoiling a W. Do you want a repeat or just get in the WCF?

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | May 02, 2010 at 05:39 PM
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your a nobody, so your opinions meaning nothing except to your little blog buddies. it's the "W" that matters in the end. you condescending words just show your immaturity and lack of knowledge of what it takes to be a winner.

Nicely said Edwin, we love our team no matter what happens, but we are not blind to their mistakes and we still love them for that, however basketball is game that you need to see and learn from your mistakes, adjustment to be made to be successful in coming games. A win is win yes and that's matter but we our team need to be more sharp and focus every game..it's the playoffs not the regular season...Go Lakers....and we have no desire to jump ship to another team.

We controlled the game; I got distracted by my son, and suddenly we’re down by 4? Bottom line, we play Utah well. I am not freaking like I was with OKC.

Feed back anyone? Can we win a championship with Ronny if he can't hit any shots from the outside? Don't get me wrong his defense was solid again, but the offense was well offensive.

M

Tony,

You are the one who condescending because you're not familiar with Laker's lackadaisical attitudes. You're drunk with your fandom on players and W without even looking at it on a wide perspective.

First, why are they suppose to win? Because it is a Laker home game.

Second, why are the fans upset? As I already said in the previous post, no Kirilenco, no Okur, all you have a bench player Fesenco and Boozer. We have Artest, Bynum, Gasol and LO, that is too much advantage to get a W.

Third, we criticize in order to challenge the 2nd unit, however you guys also misinterpret criticisms to no satisfaction. If you don't point out the mistakes being committed, then it will be repeated in the future. Lakers could pass the Jazz now after making crucial mistakes in the 4th but the high caliber teams in WCF and Finals, Lakers cannot continue making the same fundamental mistakes.

Fourth, yes, I'm a nobody here but your desire and our desire are just the same. unfortunately, you just don't understand.

I completely agree with Edwin and Appolo.

Tony and mti312, you guys misunderstood our point here. That's cool with me. But never should you guys label us as 'Negative Lakers Fans'. We so love that the Lakers won. This is the PLAYOFFS not the regular season, and the margin for error is close to none. Sure we are happy that we won, it's the W that counts. It's just that the Jazz almost took it from us and we were just expressing our thoughts. If you guys don't agree, cool, but never should we be labeled as Negative Fans. (Please see our previous posts from previous threads).

WE ARE LAKERHOLICS.

BTW, Tony, Edwin is well respected here. He is a Lakerholic.


LAKERS ALL DAY!!! NEXT!!!!

>>> In the 4th they didn't move the ball and the took a lot of bad shots.

Mark G,

That's just not so. They got the ball in to the post to Bynum THREE TIMES and Odom once. The result of those four possessions? Two turnovers and two missed shots by Bynum.

You can't blame Farmar and Walton if they do the right thing, get the ball into the big man in the post and the big man chokes.

And on the other end scoring, 6 of the 8 points were scored by Millsap, being poorly guarded by Lamar.

The only Laker to score in the start of the fourth was Luke - hitting on 1 of 2 free throws.

Magia32,

Though I agree with Laker Tom far more than KB Blitz, KB Blitz is an intelligent, often thoughtful blogger, while DFish is nothing but a pure troll.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I was lessoning to Magic on ABC during the Lakers game vs the Jazz, and he was talking to L. james regarding his MVP award. He told james that the tourch was passed from Kaream to Magic/Bird and then to Jordan, to Shaq and then to Kobey. And now the tourch is passed to James. I found it kind of offensive to Kobey. He is still winning.
Exactly what year did magic pass the tourch to Jordan?


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