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Lakers' teamwork serves as biggest threat in 124-112 Game 2 victory over Phoenix Suns

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The Lakers entered the Western Conference Finals wanting to play at a deliberate pace against Phoenix, fearful that a fast-paced style would only result in the Lakers trailing. But the Lakers still managed a high-scoring 124-112 Game 2 Western Conference Finals victory over the Phoenix Suns because the team's versatile offense made it too overwhelming for the defenseless Suns.

Want to double Kobe Bryant? Fine. He may not score 40 points like he did in Game 1. But he'll still score 21, drop a playoff-career high 13 dimes (the highest playoff assists total for a Lakers since Magic Johnson in Game 3 of 1996 first round series against the Houston Rockets), making the strategy somewhat pointless. As Bryant said, "It's my responsibility and Pau's responsibility to make the defense have to do something. If they play straight-up single coverage, then we've got to go to work. That's our responsibility to do that. And then once the defense adjusts, it's our responsibility to make the right play."

Want to bank on Andrew Bynum's limitation because of the increased swelling in his lateral meniscus tear? Fine. He may only play 18 minutes, partly because of Phil Jackson's acknowledgement that he wants to ensure maximum health should the Lakers advance to the NBA Finals, partly because he picked up four fouls and partly because of Jackson's concern on how Bynum can play against the Sun's screen-and-roll. But Bynum will still score 13 points on five of five shooting, and then allow others to fill the gap, including Pau Gasol (29 points on 11 of 19 shooting) and Lamar Odom (17 points on seven of 10 shooting and 11 rebounds). As Odom said, "We pass the ball well as a team. I think that’s the best thing we can do. It gets everybody going. Nobody on our team is an offensive liability and you can't leave anyone open because the’ll get going."

Want to believe the Lakers won't get it going from the outside? Fine. It's a fair point considering the Lakers had a spotty track record this season in that category. But when those shots fall, it makes the defensive adjustments even more difficult to make. You can leave Ron Artest open all you want and assume he won't make them. But when he pulls up for 18 points on six of nine shooting and three of six from three-point range, you should probably start taking him seriously. But that just makes your defense even more vulnerable. As Gasol said, "That's always a plus because then they don't really know what to do."

Want to bank on your chances by entering the fourth quarter with the game tied at 90-90? Fine. You still have a chance. But when Jordan Farmar makes a three-pointer from the near-side, steals Gordan Dragic's pass, and Gasol and Odom convert on a layup within a matter of three minutes, the game will eventually get out of reach. As Bryant said of Farmar's key plays that contributed to his 11 points, "That changed the momentum of the game. Up until that point they had all the momentum. And he single handedly was responsible for changing that at the start of the fourth." You could probably also add Gasol's 14 fourth-quarter points, including 10 in the final 5:46 of the game, a strategy that worked against a defenseless Amare Stoudemire.

Said Gasol: "Once I was being effective in finishing plays, obviously you just continue to go to it because it was working pretty well for us."

Of course, the Lakers playing this defense-free game likely won't cut it in Game 3 against Phoenix. And it certainly won't cut it should the Lakers meet a more defensive-imposing team in Boston in the NBA Finals.

"All teams have their identity," Odom said. "When you play in the playoffs, teams play different. Every series that you move on, there are adjustments you have to make. Our depth and our size and quickness gives us an advantage that can pretty much match with any team in the NBA."

And in Game 2, the Lakers showcased why it's nearly impossible to stop them offensively if everyone's working together.

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Bryant directs the offense

After Bryant scored 40 points in Game 1 and marked the sixth consecutive game he scored at least 30 points, Lakers Coach Phil Jackson anticipated Phoenix would double team him much like it did with Portland's Brandon Roy in the first round. The Suns did more than that. They doubled him, they zoned him and they switched up defensive assignments, ranging from Grant Hill, Jared Dudley, Jason Richardson and Robin Lopez. 

But Bryant illustrated why he's both a scorer and facilitator, two descriptions that some use to pigeon hole Bryant when in fact he's both. He went to the elbows and hit open jumpers. He fed entry passes on the block to Gasol, who easily converted turnaround jumpers and close looks at the basket. When the Suns doubled Bryant on the perimeter before he took a dribble in the second quarter, he fed the ball up top to Shannon Brown, who swung the ball to an open Farmar for the three-pointer. When Richardson trapped Bryant in the lane on one play, Bryant fired a pass in the corner to Artest, who nailed the open three-pointer.

Said Bryant: "It makes the game a lot easier, obviously, to have a big that can catch, complete, make plays."

Bryant illustrated that perfectly in two particular plays. With the Lakers leading 95-93, Bryant directed the offense from the nearside. He drove the lane, met a double team and then found Odom backdoor because of a lazy Stoudemire. In a split second, Bryant shifted from looking to score to making the pass. Odom converted on the easy layup and gave the Lakers a 97-93 lead with 9:14 remaining in the game. Minutes later, Bryant looked to score again but then found Gasol open in the lane. Gasol converted on the basket, causing Bryant to pump his fist, Gasol to point at Bryant and the two embracing each other afterwards. It truly symbolized how the co-dependency between Bryant and Gasol maximizes their own effectiveness. Gasol's contributions can't be credited enough, particularly because he's scored at least 20 points six of the past eight games. But there's many times other parts of the offense haven' carried the same consistency. In Game 2, that wasn't the case, with Bryant's presence helping set the tone. 

"There's so many things he can go to," Odom said. "He's prerty much unstoppable."

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Odom proves his game goes beyond luck

After Stoudemire described Odom's 19 point and 19-rebound effort in Game 1 as a "lucky game," Odom refused to participate in the back-and-forth, insisting he just wanted to focus on the game.

Well, his game clearly revealed he's far from just being lucky, with his 17 points on five of seven shooting along with 11 rebounds marking his second consecutive double double. When Derek Fisher missed a fast-break layup, Odom trailed right behind for the putback, giving the Lakers a 17-13 lead with 6:03 left in the first. When Gasol caught an entry pass on the far block, Odom drove the lane, received a pass and converted on a reverse layup for the Lakers' 33-24 lead with 36.4 seconds remaining. Later in the fourth quarter, many plays illustrated his versatile skills set. He grabbed an offensive board and drew Dudley's sixth foul. He fed an entry pass to a wide-open Gasol for the easy score. And he posterized Stoudemire.

Odom didn't need to fire back at Stoudemire after the game. He already answered with his play on the court.

"It's not about me and Amare," Odom said. "I play for the Lakers. He plays for the Suns. That’s what its about. Tonight, I was able to perform and do well and we got the win."

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Artest turns a switch

Artest arrived at Staples Center two hours early to work on his jump shots, a custom he says dates back to when he played with the Sacramento Kings from 2006-2008. For someone who has struggled finding his rhythm for most of the season, he wanted to find an edge and likened the routine's importance to perhaps other routines in life.

"Sometimes you sleep on the left side of the bed, but sometimes you sleep on the right," said Artest, who had recently removed his tape from his hands. "You sleep on the right instead of the left and your whole day gets messed up. I just want to sleep on the left side of the bed."

Well for the second consecutive game, Artest's shooting has returned. Jackson didn't take anything definitive from his 14 points on six of 14 shooting in Game 1. But after Game 2, Jackson expressed different sentiments, although they remained mild.

"He's working on it," Jackson said. "He's taking the shots are there."

Artest's teammates expressed more support with Bryant saying, "it was just getting his rhythm and settling in. Odom added, "I know his resistant personality and persistenace he has. You know hes going to get going. He's just that good."

Artest's performance went beyond his shooting stroke. He also appeared more involved and understanding with the offense. He connected with Gasol on a fastbreak, penetrated the lane inside and even converted on corner three-pointers, usually a shot Jackson doesn't want Artest to take given his track record.

Nonetheless, Artest's confidence and stubborn attitude may have exacerbated his poor shooting numbers, but it also served as the same reason why he managed to get out of his slump.

I'm not really worried about it," Artest said. "I always fel good. Even when I was going one for 10, I was telling you I felt good. I always feel good."

--Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers center Pau Gasol tries to work his way to the basket past Phoenix guard Steve Nash, center, and forward Amare Stoudemire during Game 2 of the Western Conference finals on Wednesday. Credit: Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times.

Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant is tripped by Phoenix forward Grant Hill during the first half of Game 2 of the Western Conference finals on Wednesday. Credit: Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times

Credit: Phoenix forward Jared Dudley dribbles past Lakers forward Lamar Odom during the first half of Game 2 of the Western Conference finals on Wednesday. Photo: Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times

Photo: A fan celebrates after Lakers forward Ron Artest beats Phoenix guard Jason Richardson, right, to make a three-pointer at the end of the first quarter during Game 2 of the Western Conference finals on Wednesday. Credit: Robert Gauthier / Los Angeles Times

 
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Contragulations to the guys for this utter domination of the suns. Everybody played extremely well.

Next. MM, I give up with you: Gasol is never worthy to be praised individually (if he fails, ooooh, boy, the he WILL be singled"

Yo descend to de the deepest reaches of ridiculousness when you say...

"Want to bank on Andrew Bynum's limitation..."
Yea. So opposing teams focus their gameplans on stopping... Bynum. Right. The Suns are worried about "6 points per game Bynum", not about "21 points /12 rebounds/5 assists per game gasol". Is Bynum who makes the Lakers offense hum. Riiiight.

But then you go and say:
"But Bynum will still score 13 points on five of five shooting, and then allow others to fill the gap, including Pau Gasol"
Excuse me? Then allow others to fill the gap? Gasol is the role player and Bynum the all star?

The you praise individually Kobe (extremely deserved), Lamar (ditto) and Aretes (ok). Not gasol, who merely scored 29/9/5 and made life miserable for Amare...

Admit it: you do not like Gasol, although he's right behind Kobe the reason this team reaches finals and rings. You will never give him his due, or you will do it just grudginly (wwich is just as bad). Sir: very biased, you are.

This post is only for the wise OUCHHHHHHHHH.

Nash two time MVP said....

“He’s extremely long,” said the Canadian. “He’s able to go both ways in the post. He’s a good shooter and passer for a big guy he can look over the defense (and) double teams.

“He’s extremely versatile. He can put the ball on the floor. He can make plays at the same time he can score going both ways in the post. So he’s a terrific player.”

Of course you, Ouchhhh king of clowns understand much more than basketball that stupid Canadian.

I guess when kobe embraced pau your jealousy made you turn off the TV.

Learn to live with that clown kobe loves pau and pau loves kobe, and you alone are a poor chimp front of a keyboard that nobody wants.

Lakerswinn - I understand your point but I've often times focused on his individual play. I highlighted the other contributions because they were new developments. Gasol has been pretty consistent for a while now. So the main part of the story focused on how the offense that doesn't always click does. As far as Kobe is concerned, I focused on him because of how his role changed. But to say I have a bias against Gasol is simply inaccurate

MM

MM

It's not just today. This is a trend: he will never be "blamed" for the victories, but he'll be blamed for defeats.

- The Lakers win? Gasol is just a valuable role player, barely worth mentioning.

- The lakers lose? Gasol soft and the main culprit

- Gasol defends and has 25/12/4? meh. We'll ignore it or better yet, combine it with Bynum's 10/9/1 and say that "The frontline dominated to the tune of a COMBINED"

- Gasol has an off game in 10? He's soft

- Bynum has an outstanding game in 10? "The beast has arrived"

- Bynum has 9 off games in 10? "Gasol and Bynum are struggling together"

etc. etc.

Gasol's contributions? Ignored and/or diminshed
Bynum's contributions? Exaggerated and/or magnified

Gasol's failures? Exaggerated and/or magnified
Bynum's contributions? Ignored and/or diminshed

Pplease start taking a more balanced approach. This is Kobe's team first, Gasol's second. No one else on the team comes close to these two and if one did, it would be Lamar (who's repeatedly shown his value in the Playoffs) and not Bynum (who's repeatedly failed to make any mark whatsoever in the playoffs)

With this I don't want to diss Bynum, who I think has a bright future ahead annd will be important against Boston. But in the here and now, it's Kobe, Pau & Odom (and Artest & Fisher) who propell the lakers to finals and titles, and Bynum is just taken along for the ride along with all the other role players on the team.

The way the Lakers are running roughshod on the Jazz and the Suns only emphasizes how truly good the Thunder are. Had the OKC gotten over LA, they would have won the West.

Lakerswinnn,

Totally agree with you. Maybe, as Spaniard, I take it too personal but the best thing is that Pau doesn't need to be flattered by any one to do his job and to give his best.

Anyway, the important thing is that Lakers are going to win the RING and all the TEAM is going to be responsible for that. All are playing well and every one is assuming is role.

jejejejejejejejejej

I once posted a comment saying to be careful what we wish for, as in "WE WANT BOSTON"

But now i come to realize that Boston has beaten teams that seem to quit or not have a player with a killer instict. Ok they beat Miami; and that was a series of five againts one which was Dwayne Wade.

They beat Cleveland, and again that was five againts one player named Lebronze; who decided to quit.

Now The Celts play the Magic, who supposedly they have dominated. Yeah maybe yet they have only beat them by a total of 7 points in the 2 games they have played them. What if Vince made the 2 free throws?

The Celtics have lost home games and some of them have been by alot. So this series is not over

Last year history was againts the Magic with Boston always winning the series when they were up 3-2. what happened? They lost

This year they are up 2-0, and when their record is 42-0 or something like that, they win the series. LOL Perfect that the magic beat their last record; why not do it again.

Paula, yeah lets get the broom ready, but only to stick it where it belongs. . .

Lakerswinn - Look through my posts. I've rarely criticized Gasol.

MM

Totally agree with lakerswinn. Right now Pau Gasol is the best laker player, and maybe, the best NBA player. Only one player can stop him, Garnett (his nemesis).

Lakers and Gasol need Andrew Bynum inmediatly. Gasol need a big body in the middle. No forget than Pau is PF not C. I remember when Gasol play in Barcelona, hi have a big C like sidekick, Roberto Dueñas. Bynum should play this role (rebounding, defending, patrolling the paint) and Gasol, with Bryant, running the triangle in offense. But Bynum is absolutly necessary for the Lakers and Gasol.

joe_corad:

Playoff series are each their own little microcosms. Why? Match-ups. The Suns looked scary as hell coming out of that San Antonion series to the point where their fanbase was very confident going into this series. Many experts even picked the Suns to win. What have we seen so far? The Suns are clearly outmatched and this series will likely be short.

Orlando had a series against a Charlotte team that had just set a franchise record by GETTING to the playoffs. They were clearly overwhelmed by the defending EC champs. They then had a series against an Atlanta team that was so offensively challenged I'm amazed they were ever considered a top 4 team this season. Now they run into a legitimately tough match-up and they're struggling. If it weren't for some late game lapses, this series could be 1-1 as many would have predicted by this point.

Sure, when a team goes 12-0 throughout their conference like the 01 Lakers, you can draw something from it, but other than that there's really not much you can take from series to series. Just listen to all the guys talk when a series ends and they get asked questions like that. It's always the same answer: "No, we just move on and get ready for the next one. Whole new ballgame".

The only thing to be sure of is that if the Lakers and Celtics meet in the Finals, it likely will be the toughest match-up of the playoffs for each respective team. This is probably true for any of the remaining finals match-ups. That's the way it should be.

We want Boston.

Fish is learning to play defense from Artest. That a lack of foot speed can be offsetted by using strength.

Kobe and Pau, what a dynamic duo!
Some nervous time there when it was tied at 90 but the Suns couldn't compete when the Lakers turned it on to close out the game.
Nice to hear the commentators giving Fish some credit for his overall play against Nash.
In the post game interviews Stoudie didn't say LO was lucky this game, gave him credit. Maybe the Suns are learning not to give any of the Lakers any extra motivation, duh.

Nice to hear Barkley say the Suns are toast, but he seemed really disappointed by it.
What ever happened to the days of neutral announcers. How about some announcers that are blatantly in favor of the Lakers, that might be nice for a change.
Seems the Suns are a nice team, it's hard to hate them, but nice won't get it done.


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Looks like both Lakers and Celtics might sweep their opponents!!

Just curious, if both sweep their opponents, do the Finals still start at a fixed date, or will they be moved earlier??

Also, when Magic let Hedo walk and "traded" for Vince Carter, everyone was crowing about what a difference maker would he be to the team.

However, everyone knows that Carter is a loser and a choker and has got T-Mac's genes in him. When Magic were trailing 90-93, Carter was fouled and went to the line and MISSED BOTH FTs. I think that would be most significant miss for Magic this season!!

Check with our Kobe has he ever done that in the waning seconds of a game - missing both critical FTs!!

Just curious, if both sweep their opponents, do the Finals still start at a fixed date, or will they be moved earlier??
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Hey Stefan, Yes regardless of when both finish, the Finals will start June 3. I think that is why they are spacing games so far apart. Otherwise they probably would be sitting around waiting like almost 10 days, if they sweep.
Mamba24

"Totally agree with lakerswinn. Right now Pau Gasol is the best laker player, and maybe, the best NBA player. Only one player can stop him, Garnett (his nemesis).

Lakers and Gasol need Andrew Bynum inmediatly. Gasol need a big body in the middle. No forget than Pau is PF not C. I remember when Gasol play in Barcelona, hi have a big C like sidekick, Roberto Dueñas. Bynum should play this role (rebounding, defending, patrolling the paint) and Gasol, with Bryant, running the triangle in offense. But Bynum is absolutly necessary for the Lakers and Gasol.

Posted by: ricky | May 20, 2010 at 03:59 AM"

ricky.

I don't get your post,

first off Garnett does not stop Pau, consistently and vice/versa...right now I would call it close but edge to Pau.

You speak of how Pau should be used. Yes, he is a PF, but he has stepped up to play center without complaints, showing the great attitude of a player who I consider not only one of the best in the NBA, but on this planet. (Lamar, has first rights to Pluto at times). This is how they have been running their offense, with the exception of when Bynum was more healthy, he was more demanding of the ball, especially in the beginning of games. Bynum is absolutely necessary because he gives the Lakers the height advantage over almost all the teams in the league, with LO, M'Benga, large guards, Kobe, Sasha, our only lack of size is Fish and Farmar who we need to try to slow down the quick guards in the league. After the Lakers got Pau, and Bynum showed signs of potential strong play/greatness...many teams went after big men, however they lack the size still, because both Pau and Bynum are both very tall, and keep the ball high. The big men the other teams went after were not of the same quality and chemistry that our 2 big men provide.

"(19)TEAMN – SECURITY- Kobe Bryant is one bad mofo -- that turnaround j in the second half was unbelievable, I don't even think he had time to see the basket it was so quick!Incredible game by just about"

Kobe doesn't have to always see the basket, he knows where it is, I'm not saying that to say smack, but great shooters know where they are on the court at essential times, I think his brain is just wired to know.

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Great way to start the day, Mamba24! I cannot believe that the Lakers and Celtics could be sitting around for days if both sweep -- that may actually help Bynum.

My take on last night -- Lakers got bored in the third quarter (that and Grant Hill went crazy), but turned it on in crunch time. Other than Hill and Dudley, who really hurt the Lakers? Amare is garbage, Nash is under control (props to Fish and the bigs), Richardson had a quiet 20+. I think the Lakers paced themselves and put it away when necessary.

Look, I love domination and blowouts, but the Lakers need to be pressed these next two games. I want to see a sweep, but one that makes the Lakers work and get sharper as a team. It is the WCF, after all. Should at least be some challenge to it.

humananomaly (29 minutes),

Thanks, no offense taken. I said that simply because after watching basketball for so many years (no claim to be an expert or anything), I am still amazed at times what Kobe can do. No doubt other players make amazing plays as well, but there's something different about #24, sort of a sixth sense that only a few guys have had. That shot was just so quick, so calculated, and so deadly that it really blew me away. The guy is in such a zone right now, as a shooter, as a distributor, and as a leader -- really impressive.

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Look, I love domination and blowouts, but the Lakers need to be pressed these next two games. I want to see a sweep, but one that makes the Lakers work and get sharper as a team. It is the WCF, after all. Should at least be some challenge to it. Posted by: teamn | May 20, 2010 at 05:50 AM
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I agree TeamN, I think since the Lakers know they can out Offense the so-called High offense Suns, they should use the next 2 games as "Practice" and concentrate more on their defense and how they are going to defend the Celtics. This is almost perfect. They get real game action to simulate the sets they will use for the next series. It don't get no better than that. Lol!
Mamab24

I've said this before, and I'll continue saying this...I fear Boston.

The Laker's run in the playoffs can be attributed to one thing...they've avoided all the THUG teams. No team; not Oklahoma, not Utah, and not the Suns, were the physically inclined, mentally rough thug teams the Lakers traditionally break down against. As I've said many times before, Pau Gasol is brilliant WHEN THE CONDITIONS FAVOR HIM. This means that if he's not going up against someone who will muscle and intimidate him, he will be unstoppable.

However, put someone physical, dirty, and strong on him, and he has shown in the past that he will cower and go into a shell. And if he does this, the Lakers will falter quickly.

To this point, the only reason for why the Lakers have been successful is because of Pau. Pau is the catalyst. If Pau is playing well, Kobe doesn't press, and then he plays well. When Kobe and Pau play well, the entire Laker team relaxes and shoots high percentages and tries on defense.

If Pau is playing poorly (like he does against thug teams), then the domino effects kills the Lakers. Kobe has to compensate, which means he presses, which means he misses many shots, which means his teammates stress out, which means no one shoots the ball well.

It's all about Pau.

And this is why I'm afraid of Boston. Boston and Denver are the top two teams in the NBA that can take Pau out of his comfort zone. Perkins takes Pau out physically, and Garnett take him out mentally. Kobe starts to press in response, and Pierce eats him alive. When the Lakers start missing shots because they see their two stars playing poorly, Rondo will exploit these missed shots on fast break points. And then you'll have Ray Allen, out to prove a point this season (contract), raining 3 point shots to open huge leads.

I know some Laker fans don't like this, but the Celtics have better players than the Lakers, and they beat them in collective matcups. They are also much more mentally stronger than the Lakers, or any other team in the league. Everything that hurts the Lakers is represented by the Celtics.

It is IMPERATIVE that Orlando at least stretches this thing out to 6 or 7 games. If the Lakers can close the Suns in 4 or 5, and the Celtics are taken to 7 games, at least the Lakers will have home court advantage and more rest on their side. Problem is, the Celtics play better on the road than at home...

Our collective hopes for a repeat rests in the hands of the Orlando Magic. If we get the Celtics in the finals, I predict we will lose, and I hate to say that because losing to the Celtic twice in the Finals will being extremely painful...and I mean EXTREMELY.

Justa, I'm dying to see Ron put the beat down on Paul Pierce.
Posted by: Mark G | May 19, 2010 at 09:00 PM
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HEY! Despite that Thug exterior, Ron is a gentleman. He would never harm a lady! Lol
Mamba24

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He can show off whatever he wants as long as his D is on display too! Posted by: justanothermambafan | May 19, 2010 at 09:10 PM
ROFLMFAO!!! JUSTA, JUSTA, JUSTA! We need some clarification fo this statement! HEH, HEH, HEH!
mAMBA24

Hello Mark,
I obviously do not think you have any kind of bias against any single player, quite the contrary. But I am afraid the article above doesn't match up to your usual high standards. Saying that the Suns were "banking on" or Bynum's injury is perhaps just wrong choice of words and , if not, it is grossly inaccurate.There is no real "gap" that Bynum's lack of production leaves since he has hardly ever been consistent, albeit because of his injuries,more often than not.His contribution today, like almost every time, wasn't a given.
As for you not giving Gasol his due, that is not true since you do mention that his effort can't be credited enough. I know you were only highlighting the things that stood out and Gasol's performances of late mean that his consistency almost goes without saying.
Btw, your language(grammar and, rarely, semantics) is just off in a couple places and I have noticed that often in recent posts of yours.Not being a wise guy or anything, I like your work. Just pointing out what I have observed.

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RON ARTEST APPRECIATION – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHEMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I just have to express my appreciation for Ron Artest. I didn't want him. I was totally against him becoming a Laker. "He's crazy" I said. "He's looney tunes". "He talks about himself in the 3rd person". Yadda yadda yadda. I have since eaten crow with a huge side of humble pie. Keep doing what you're doing and you're gonna get your ring, Ronron. 6 more wins and it's all yours. This man is the perfect teammate. All heart, hustle and defense. No trouble. Not a lot of drama. Not even a hint of crazy. He's like Kobe in the sense that once he's focused, he's all in. He's locked down some of the best players in the game, and we ain't seen nothing yet. I love him. I love Ron Artest. I hope he's a Laker for Life.
(02) MAGIC PHIL – DRIVER - Two words for you, justa: ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers.
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – Three words for you justa “”Add Me too”.
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lakerswinn,

to MM you wrote this: It's not just today. This is a trend: he will never be "blamed" for the victories, but he'll be blamed for defeats.

- The Lakers win? Gasol is just a valuable role player, barely worth mentioning.

- The lakers lose? Gasol soft and the main culprit

- Gasol defends and has 25/12/4? meh. We'll ignore it or better yet, combine it with Bynum's 10/9/1 and say that "The frontline dominated to the tune of a COMBINED"

- Gasol has an off game in 10? He's soft

- Bynum has an outstanding game in 10? "The beast has arrived"

- Bynum has 9 off games in 10? "Gasol and Bynum are struggling together"

etc. etc.

Gasol's contributions? Ignored and/or diminshed
Bynum's contributions? Exaggerated and/or magnified

Gasol's failures? Exaggerated and/or magnified
Bynum's contributions? Ignored and/or diminshed

my response:

1st. Hola.

2nd. I think your spanish heritage is affecting how you read things. I could
be wrong. Whenever a game is reported, the play of the entire *TEAM*
is talked about. When Kobe goes of for 40, both LO & Pau's nights
were talked about. If Kobe has a poor shooting night he gets singled
out for it. Posters like JimJoyce start whining about "Kobe, the ballhog."
or "LeBron is Better.".

we just read an article where the entire sports writing community blamed
Kobe for tanking a game in 2007, and just now history is correcting
itself. i.e. Phil is saying Kobe didn't tank it. Kobe is saying he didn't tank
it. Rick Fox is saying Kobe didn't tank it. How come people have
refused to believe this for 3 years?

Let's take the analogy that the Lakers are a music band. Kobe is the lead
guitar & Pau is the bass guitar. You need them both to make great music, yes?

Kobe has given Pau praise. Phil has given Pau praise. Popovich has given
Pau praise. Everyone gives Pau praise except for Mike T. Did you forget
these things in your desire to see your countryman given the "superstar"
treatment?

Has Pau ever scored 40 pts in a game? When is the last time Pau scored
20+ pts & had 20+ rebounds?

If you want Pau to get superstar treatment then he has to put up superstar
numbers. And no. Bynum doesn't get superstar treatment. And no. I don't
think that MM has ever referred to Bynum as a beast. Perhaps I'm wrong
about this. I certainly don't think that he would refer to Bynum as a beast
for 10 pts.

Mamba24,

You have a DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON and haven't saved me a seat? Surely, this must be an oversight, and not a slight.

I'm confident we will see a return of our BANNER HOLDER upon the official match-up for the Finals.

As for today, all I want to do is watch replays of the 4th quarter. Wow!

Mamba, I appreciate Ron Artest's efforts to be the player that we need. I think he'll actually get much better next year.

GOOD MORNING LAKER NATION, DON'T PLAY BOSTON SHORT, THIS IS THE TYPE OF FEARSOME PLAY WE MUST GEAR UP FOR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysT8RA6JQks

MM:

Lamar grabbed 11 rebounds and not 7 as suggested in your post.

Thank you

Good Morning everyone!

Loved everything about the game last night. I'll more to chime in later, because it's moving day today.

I'm really eager to see how they respond for game 3, because that should be the toughest game yet.

Hope you all have a good morning!

NOT SURE if anyone noticed in last night's game, Kobe kept going to Pau with Amare guarding Pau. I thought it was to rub Amare's nose because he had made comments as to how he dominated Pau when he played for the Bobcats..

Mamba24 (LarrY):

Put me on "RonRon's Bandwagon."

Yes, I'm always like Ron's game ever since he was with Chicago. Ron is similar to Kobe that he's a fierce competitor and back off from no one. It's a good character on our team. He has proven his worth in the playoff and look forward for his match-up against Paula Pierce in the Finals.

You have a DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON and haven't saved me a seat? Surely, this must be an oversight, and not a slight.
I'm confident we will see a return of our BANNER HOLDER upon the official match-up for the Finals.Posted by: Rick Friedman | May 20, 2010 at 06:53 AM
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RON ARTEST APPRECIATION – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHEMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I just have to express my appreciation for Ron Artest. I didn't want him. I was totally against him becoming a Laker. "He's crazy" I said. "He's looney tunes". "He talks about himself in the 3rd person". Yadda yadda yadda. I have since eaten crow with a huge side of humble pie. Keep doing what you're doing and you're gonna get your ring, Ronron. 6 more wins and it's all yours. This man is the perfect teammate. All heart, hustle and defense. No trouble. Not a lot of drama. Not even a hint of crazy. He's like Kobe in the sense that once he's focused, he's all in. He's locked down some of the best players in the game, and we ain't seen nothing yet. I love him. I love Ron Artest. I hope he's a Laker for Life.
(02) MAGIC PHIL – DRIVER - Two words for you, justa: ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers.
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – Three words for you justa “”Add Me too”.
(04) #4 - I appreciate Ron Artest's efforts to be the player that we need. I think he'll actually get much better next year.
(05) RICK FRIEDMAN – I appreciate it too!
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utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER YOUR LAKERSBLOG FAMILY MISS YOU – BANDWAGON
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(01) JON K. – OWNER/UNDRCOVER AGENT SUPREME – utzworld we miss you.
(02) MAMBA24 – TEMP. DRIVER – Allright Utzworld I can play prima donna & disappear from time to time cause I’m just a Court Jester, But we need you brother. I beg you, come back and help the famiily
Finish this push to the title and help consolidate Dynasty #4 and our Legacy. I believe that you are the one who first reminded us there were Laker Dynasties and Legacy’s way back in the good old days. I know you may be going thru more serious things – God bless You, Your Daughter & your Family – but if you find a moment here and there come on back. Thanks Brother. Regardless, STAY STRONG AND GOD BLESS YOUR DAUGHTER.
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BACK TO BACK PAYBACK our DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON
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X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, HIT IT LAKER TOM! PARADE TIME!!! RINGS!!
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When Dark threatens to Extinguish Light, Lakers and Celtics Collide. When Good and Evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics Collide. When Love is threatened by Hate, Lakers / Celtics Collide
The path is clear. It's time to get Ugly, turn up the tough. Pain? what Pain? Injuries? Cut me.
No Fear, the Suns shall Illuminate our path, aid in our preparation for the battle ahead.
The Good, the Light, the Love, will Prevail... Rise Up! GO Lakers! @ VMAN
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(01) TIM-4-SHOW – OWNER - One thing is clear, like it or not... Back2Back Payback - Kobe would like to thank all those fans in Boston that chanted MVP while Paula and Doc were purposely throwing games in a desperate attempt to salvage a dead franchise. Lakers get the last word. Last meeting of the 1980s, Lakers win on Boston home floor. Last meeting of the 2000s (2000-2020), Lakers win on Boston home floor in stunning game 5. As a token of appreciation, you will get to cheer for him in person as he's handed the Bill Russel finals MVP trophy after game 5 at center court.
(02) VMAN – DRIVER - When dark threatens to extinguish light, Lakers and Celtics collide. When good and evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics collide. When love is threatened by hate, Lakers / Celtics collide@ VMAN
(03) JEANETTE – DRIVER - agree with most regarding Odom. He is in it for the redemption against the Suns and Celts on the next round. This year is the year that the Lakers will redefine greatness. THE TIME IS NOW!!! It is just the beginning of greater things to come.
(04) # 4
(05) ZAIRA AMATERASU – DIRECTOR FINALS WIN # 3 - This year is shaping up to be the Revenge Year. So let's keep having the Suns, then let's have the Celtics (very likely at this point) to complete the full circle.
(06) EDWIN GUECO – JUDGE - Once they get to the Finals, it is our time for redemption. This will be a back to back redemption against a Forbidden State and against Tormenting Leprechauns.
(07) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - DEF need a seat on the bandwagon!! I'll stand if I have to. Hell - I'll strap myself to the roof it there's no more room!!!
(08) MAMBA24 – Revenge a wise person says is a dish best served cold. Our hearts are cold and dispassionate as we sweep away the garbage and clear a path for our Victory parade
(09) EAST COAST JESSE - Looks like it's gonna be a Lakers/Celtics final people. I can't wait!!!!!!!
(10) LAKERLASS - find me a little spot on that bandwagon. I know the Suns are going to throw every thing they can at us so we must be ready to go in for the kill. Posted
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL - Make sure those PHX fans understand DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!! (12) CORNER J - I wouldn't even watch the next series...it'll be the first 7-game series ever stopped after 3 on a mercy rule).
(13) RDLEE - With the Kobe face, the broom is ready
(14) BRONXLAKERFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN - If you've got the broom, I've got the dustpan!
(15) KEIFO - - DIRECTOR WIN #4 WCF - Put me on the bandwagon- I've got my dustbuster!!
(16) FATTY – DIRECTOR WIN #2 FINALS - That's all you will hear from me on that. In the mean time, I will be looking for my broom. Let's see, where did I put that thing. I just had it out last week.
(17) KOBESBAD - Please put me on the bandwagon...Kobe is a very baaaaaaad man!
(18)DAVE M. - RECYCLING DIRECTOR - bandwagon me please. Those little dust bunnies need to be swept up and tossed in the garbage.
(19)TEAMN – SECURITY- Kobe Bryant is one bad mofo -- that turnaround j in the second half was unbelievable, I don't even think he had time to see the basket it was so quick!Incredible game by just about
(20) FEARLESS - From your mouth to all our hearts. As you say, so say we all. Let the Green Blood spill! We would have any, but we thirst for only one: Boston. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the coming of the real Clash of the Titans.
(21) J24(LADY-JEM24) – On to the next beat down
(22) MR.NANO - I also think we can win in 4, IF they continue focused. Let's just crush 'em.
(23) RICK FRIEDMAN – DIRECTOR PARADE CELEBRATION TITLE # 16 - You have a DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON and haven't saved me a seat? Surely, this must be an oversight, and not a slight.
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Another FAIL by Plachke today.

He says that the Lakers need a strong WCF to learn to get tough against their Finals rivals, which sounded plausible... Until he cited 2001 Spurs as one of those tough teams. Um, the Lakers SWEPT them that year, hardly a tough challenge. And he cites the T-Wolves as a weak team in 2004, when they actually gave the Lakers fits (not to mention injuries that would doom them in the Finals). Also, the Lakers did not need a tough Sac team in 2002 to prepare them for the Nets, one of the weakest teams ever to make the Finals.

Way to twist the facts to support your theory, Plachke.

What's with all this BS that the Lakers are so much taller?

When the Suns were beating the Lakers the 5/6 on crunch time were Smush 6'5, KB, Luke 6'8, LO, Kwame 6'11 and Mihm 7'0. Now its Fish 6'2, KB, Artest 6'6, LO, Pau 7'0 with Bynum 7'0. So except for the 1 inch gain from Kwame to Pau this team is actually shorter because of the loss of height from Smush to Fish and Luke to Artest Its insulting to pin this spanking the Lakers are laying on the Sun to a "height differential". Its the skill, BB IQ and desire were LA got better.

p ang,

I also get tired of this talk about the the Lakers' height. But not because of Kwame.


Look at the Suns' roster:

o Robin Lopez 7'0"
o Channing Frye 6'11"
o Amare Stoudamire 6'10"
o Grant Hill is a long SF at 6'8"
o Jason Richardson, at 6'6", is as tall as Kobe
o Nash, at 6'3", has an inch on Fisher


In what way are the Suns short? They aren't. The Lakers' bigs are just better.


Or, I guess, "lucky"


Tom D.

oh it's great evening in shanghai, p.r.c! after stepping off the airplane after a 12 hour flight from sfo, i reached for my phone and immediately went espn.com. there to my delight i read the lakers had defeated the suns AGAIN 124 - 112. HOT DAMN! the way L.A. is playing, they might never lose again, whether i'm out of the country or in the USA. i caught all of the highlights at nba.com. what i saw was an amazing balance of scoring. kobe, working as the facillator, 13 assists, YET still scoring 21. pau, was a MONSTER in the 4th qtr. artest big 3 pt shooting, L.O. another "lucky game", ha ha. farmar, looking clutch from the 3 pt.line. every suns fan on the azrepublic blog sight said the Lakers couldn't shoot 58% again from the floor, WELL, they were right about that..... the Lakers only shot 57.7%, ha ha. they were tested starting the 4th qtr tied, but L.A. IS THE DEFENDING CHAMPS FOR A REASON.......they know how to finish! PJ and company, you've earned a well deserved rest! 2 down 2 to go, I've got sunday on my mind! FEELING IT!

You just knew the Suns would come out in Game 2 with a more defensive mind set. And they did.


They cut the Lakers down from 128 points to 124.
The Lakers' shooting percentage plummeted from 58.0 % to 57.7%.

Their defensive plan was to take advantage of Kobe's selfishness by doubling him and forcing him into bad shots. Daring Artest to shoot. Letting Stoudamire take Gasol 1 0n 1 in the fourth quarter. Well, none of that worked. Oh, there was that great zone in the first quarter that allower Fisher to drive to hole and score (now that's bad defense). I can't wait for Game 3 to see what other great tricks Gentry has up his sleeve. Maybe the Lakers can go for 140.


Tom D

Dude, you have no idea how to interact with the remarkable Mike T. I say that with minimal sarcasm. Michael C. Teniente is a brilliant man who has such an incredibly over-inflated ego that it turns everything he says into comedy. He also (not unlike myself) thrives off conflict. Ergo, trying to find why he creates conflict is like asking a fish why he swims. You are presently dealing with Reggie the Alligator and you are asking him why he likes being in the desert. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_(alligator) Posted by: Jon K. | May 19, 2010 at 10:03 PM
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RON ARTEST APPRECIATION – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHEMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I just have to express my appreciation for Ron Artest. I didn't want him. I was totally against him becoming a Laker. "He's crazy" I said. "He's looney tunes". "He talks about himself in the 3rd person". Yadda yadda yadda. I have since eaten crow with a huge side of humble pie. Keep doing what you're doing and you're gonna get your ring, Ronron. 6 more wins and it's all yours. This man is the perfect teammate. All heart, hustle and defense. No trouble. Not a lot of drama. Not even a hint of crazy. He's like Kobe in the sense that once he's focused, he's all in. He's locked down some of the best players in the game, and we ain't seen nothing yet. I love him. I love Ron Artest. I hope he's a Laker for Life.
(02) MAGIC PHIL – DRIVER - Two words for you, justa: ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers.
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – Three words for you justa “”Add Me too”.
(04) #4 - I appreciate Ron Artest's efforts to be the player that we need. I think he'll actually get much better next year.
(05) RICK FRIEDMAN – I appreciate it too!
(06)WALLACE - Put me on "RonRon's Bandwagon."Yes, I've always like Ron's game ever since he was with Chicago. Ron is similar to Kobe that he's a fierce competitor and back off from no one. It's a good character on our team. He has proven his worth in the playoff and look forward for his match-up against Paula Pierce in the Finals.
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Troy,

Nice cheery post this morning, lol.
But I agree with most of what you had to say, hoping to play the Celtics just doesn't make sense to me either.
Yeah, big rivalry blah blah.

I would rather have a championship even if it means we played Orlando with Dwight Howard out injured.

For a little while I bought into the Celtics fever going through this blog and thought it might be good to play the Celts to get HCA.
Yes, cheer for the Celtics, and if they win it's number 18?
Is that what you really want to see possibly happen folks?
To have to listen to the unbearable lightness of being from 131 and Red.
Losing to the Celtics is revolting to even think about and hoping they get to the Finals is just asking for trouble.

MJ's legacy isn't any less because of who his Bulls teams beat.
Most people don't even remember the 6 teams he beat, but they do remember 6 rings.
The championships are the legacy, not the opponents!
Kobes 4th ring last year was in no way diminished because he beat the Magic.
Of course a Finals triumph over the Celtics would be awesome, but consider the alternative.

And now we have Lakers fans hoping the Celtics sweep the Magic!
Yes, sweep them!
Good grief, at hope it goes 7 games.
How in the world does a Celtics sweep benefit the Lakers at all?

Rod Serling, where are you?
Has this place turned into the Twilight Zone?
Has a green virus infected your computer?
Smoking too much green stuff?
Are we going to see a Go Celtics Bandwagon next?
Ok, done ranting.
Root for the Celtics, ahhhgghh,
gunna go throw up now.

Troy,

you wrote: The Laker's run in the playoffs can be attributed to one thing...they've avoided all the THUG teams. No team; not Oklahoma, not Utah, and not the Suns, were the physically inclined, mentally rough thug teams the Lakers traditionally break down against. As I've said many times before, Pau Gasol is brilliant WHEN THE CONDITIONS FAVOR HIM. This means that if he's not going up against someone who will muscle and intimidate him, he will be unstoppable.

However, put someone physical, dirty, and strong on him, and he has shown in the past that he will cower and go into a shell. And if he does this, the Lakers will falter quickly.

To this point, the only reason for why the Lakers have been successful is because of Pau. Pau is the catalyst. If Pau is playing well, Kobe doesn't press, and then he plays well. When Kobe and Pau play well, the entire Laker team relaxes and shoots high percentages and tries on defense.

If Pau is playing poorly (like he does against thug teams), then the domino effects kills the Lakers. Kobe has to compensate, which means he presses, which means he misses many shots, which means his teammates stress out, which means no one shoots the ball well.

It's all about Pau.

And this is why I'm afraid of Boston. Boston and Denver are the top two teams in the NBA that can take Pau out of his comfort zone. Perkins takes Pau out physically, and Garnett take him out mentally. Kobe starts to press in response, and Pierce eats him alive. When the Lakers start missing shots because they see their two stars playing poorly, Rondo will exploit these missed shots on fast break points. And then you'll have Ray Allen, out to prove a point this season (contract), raining 3 point shots to open huge leads.

I know some Laker fans don't like this, but the Celtics have better players than the Lakers, and they beat them in collective matcups. They are also much more mentally stronger than the Lakers, or any other team in the league. Everything that hurts the Lakers is represented by the Celtics.

It is IMPERATIVE that Orlando at least stretches this thing out to 6 or 7 games. If the Lakers can close the Suns in 4 or 5, and the Celtics are taken to 7 games, at least the Lakers will have home court advantage and more rest on their side. Problem is, the Celtics play better on the road than at home...

Our collective hopes for a repeat rests in the hands of the Orlando Magic. If we get the Celtics in the finals, I predict we will lose, and I hate to say that because losing to the Celtic twice in the Finals will being extremely painful...and I mean EXTREMELY.

my response.

1st. hola.

2nd. Have you been drinking the Mike T kool-aid?

Let's put this whole thing in perspective.

Is there any team in the west, which plays physical ball like the Celtics? No!

Is there any team in the west, which has a defensive minded coach + a HOF
pf + an all-star caliber SG + an all-star caliber SF + an all-star pg? No!

These two questions lead us to the point that THERE IS NO THUG TEAM in
the west. Can we stop whining about that now?

re: Pau faltering. There are two pieces of evidence to base this statement on.

1. 2008 finals.
2. His soft play this year.

There is 1 piece of evidence to refute this on. His play last year.

Ok. Let's take a look at 2008.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280605002

Pau's line: 15 pts. 8 rebounds. 4 assists. KG's line: 24 pts. 13 rebounds. 3 dimes.

Does that really look like Pau faltered? I'm guessing that you're not
actually going to take a look at the box score so I'll help you out. We lost
by 10 pts. Our starting SF was the mighty Vladamir Radmonivich. He
scored a whopping 5 pts while Pierce drilled him for 22. FYI, that differential
is the game.

Game 2. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280608002

Pau's line: 17 pts. 10 rebounds. 4 assists. KG: 17, 14, 3

Does that look like Pau faltered? Really? FYI , Pierce scored 28 & Vlad
scored 13. We lost that game by 6.

Game 4. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280612013

FYI, this was the back breaker. We were up and then we caved in.

Pau's line: 17, 10 & 2. KG's line: 16, 11 & 3. Does this look like Pau faltered?
That game Eddie House & James Posey busted us for a combined 29 pts.
11 & the sg & 18 at the SF position. The bench gave it up like a 40 yr. old
divorced cougar!

Sasha 1-9! Farmar 1-6! Luke 1-3. Ariza took 2 shots coming off a broken
foot.

Can we put the play of 2008 to rest now? Put the Mike T kool-aid down and
run to Starbucks!

regarding this: If Pau is playing poorly (like he does against thug teams), then the domino effects kills the Lakers. Kobe has to compensate, which means he presses, which means he misses many shots, which means his teammates stress out, which means no one shoots the ball well.

It's all about Pau.

my response. With respect, you've been listening to Ricky. STOP THAT!

It's all about Kobe! It's always been about Kobe! It's going to be about Kobe
for another 3 years! Why do I say that besides being a Kobe fan?

1. Doc Rivers said it. The defensive scheme of Boston was to get all 5 men
back to prevent Kobe from getting to the rim. They did the same thing
against LeBron.

2. Whether or not Kobe presses has NOTHING to do with whether or not
he makes shots. Have you not been paying attention? Allow me to educate
you. 2006. scoring title. 2007 scoring title. 81 pts. outscoring the mavs
through 3 quarters single-handedly. Get with it man! This is Kobe! If he's
in video game mode, it doesn't matter what you do. The ball is going in!

3. You are completely ignoring Phil Jackson because of 1 lost finals. With
a small amount of respect, that's rather foolish isn't it? Seriously. You're
going to believe that the most winning coach in the history of the game CAN
NOT come up with a game plan to beat the Celtics? REALLY? Are you
really going to believe that 3.5 all-star caliber players can't execute a
Phil Jackson plan and win? REALLY? [ Kobe, Pau, Artest & LO ]

4. Are you really going to believe that *THESE* Lakers don't want to
atone? Did you not see the glare in their eyes last year? Did you not
hear the monotone last year. Did you not *FEEL* the intent last year?
Did you not see the GLARE in Kobe's eyes when talking about the Suns
before this season started? Do you honestly believe they have forgotten?

re: mentally stronger. Did you actually write that? Kobe played with a
BROKEN FINGER ON HIS SHOOTING HAND for 3 MONTHS!!! And
you think Boston is mentally stronger? Don't bogard that joint! Pass it
around.

Kobe, LO, Artest & Shannon have all played hurt because they wanted to be
ready for this. We are mentally strong. We have home court advantage.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!! Get that into your head and into your
heart!


Another beat of the War drum. The team is bonded, focused, ready for the first attack.

Ron Artest defines the effort "we got to play like we did in the projects in Queens".

Who was that meant for? He's ready, we're ready, it won't be long now.

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(00) MIKE T. SPIRITUAL ADVISOR -
(01) GOMER PYLE - OWNER
(02) GOOFY - DRIVER - KG'S PERSONAL AGENT
(03) MICKEY MOUSE - RIDING SHOTGUN
(04) BARNEY FIFE - SHERIFF
(05) JOE THE PLUMBER -
(06) JAR JAR BLINKS - OPERATION STRATEGIST
(08) FLOYD THE BARBER - PAULA'S PERSONAL HAIRDRESSER
(09) AUNT BEE - PAULA'S FASHION ASSISTANT
(10) CAPTAIN CRUNCH - DEFENSIVE COACH
(11) DFISH - BALLBOY
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hobbitmage,

Great post, last line sounds like a bandwagon! I recall Pau doing fine against KG, but not Perkins (and Powe).

Couple of posters have brought up the height issue -- I was thinking about this the other day. The 06/07 teams had height as well, but were unsuccessful. The difference isn't more height, it's better players and overall improvement as a result! Kobe believes in "his crew" now and knows he can win with these guys.

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WE ARE NOT GOING TO OSE, GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD AND INTO YOUR HEART - BANDWAGON
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(01) HOBBITMAGE - OWNER - Kobe, LO, Artest & Shannon have all played hurt because they wanted to be ready for this. We are mentally strong. We have home court advantage. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!! Get that into your head and into your heart!
(02) TEAMN - DRIVER - Great post, last line sounds like a bandwagon!
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'm riding this sucker
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(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN -

SORRRRYY\
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WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE, GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD AND INTO YOUR HEART - BANDWAGON
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(01) HOBBITMAGE - OWNER - Kobe, LO, Artest & Shannon have all played hurt because they wanted to be ready for this. We are mentally strong. We have home court advantage. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!! Get that into your head and into your heart!
(02) TEAMN - DRIVER - Great post, last line sounds like a bandwagon!
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'm riding this sucker
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Posted by: MAMBA24 | May 20, 2010 at 08:08 AM

Hey,

Everyone lay off MM! He has been as balanced a reporter that I can ever remember reading. It is here in this very blog that we have read the consistent, repetitive, and extremely high praise Kobe gives to Pau. Kobe openly admits that it is due to Pau that the Lakers are championship contenders. MM has repeatedly written that here.

Incidentally, most of the negative ink Pau has gotten on this blog is from other bloggers, not MM. MM has posted videos and links and commentaries on just how much Pau has meant to this team. Every week almost MM was writing something about Pau's effect on the Lakers not having lost three games in a row for over two years since acquiring Pau.

Remember, you read it here. To paint MM as biased based on one article (which I actually thought was pretty fair, since MM pretty much gave Pau exclusive credit for the 4th quarter surge with his 14 points -- which basically matches the margin of victory) is completely irresponsible.

At any rate, the people who matter know just what Pau means to the team; Kobe, PJ, and Fish. Everyone else can jump in a lake.

Look, I am not a Pau Homer like I'm a Kobe and Fish Homer. I was one of the drum beaters when Pau was complaining about touches at the same time he was stinking it up on the court. He sometimes even openly criticized Kobe. Remember that?

What did Kobe say? Absolutely nothing. That is what he said. And do you want to hazard a guess as to why Kobe kept his trap shut? Because Kobe knew this day would come. Kobe knew he needed Pau, and it was best to just let that thing blow over.

BTW, that is the mark of a good leader. Pau was clearly insubordinate. Kobe knew this was a battle that he didn't need to win, lest he lose the whole war instead.

Trust me, we all get just how important Pau is around here.

Also, in a career-wide assessment, Pau has been just a bit better than KJ when the two have matched up. I don't expect that to change in the Finals. Those two will probably play each other into a stalemate. It will be other facets of the game that determine the ultimate victor.

--FEARless

What a game!!! Many LOL's where had at the expense of the trolls on last night's chat.

Boy that Lamar Odom guy is one Lucky dude.
If Odom is lucky what does that make Pau?

After reading Bill Plaschke's column this morning I have come to the conclusion that he is more of an attention whore than Simmers...

And to close out my morning post...

I don't always prefer crazy, but when I do I prefer the Ron Artest on the Lakers type of crazy.

Consider this my boarding pass onto the Ron Artest Appriciation band wagon. I would like to Reserve the lucky #13 slot because thats the way I roll

Lakers can't play defense. 112 points?

Lakers will get to the finals, alright. But they will be trounced by the Celtics in 6.

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Fearless -
Agree with you man. Except on one point. If you were suggesting that every criticism of Kobe's was invalid, that is just plain wrong. As great as he is, Kobe is human and has his flaws and it is ok for someone to call him out at times.Kobe respects that coming from competent teammates like Fish/Pau.

Phil Jackson should have invested in ownership of team like Magic Johnson, so he could share in 40 million profits. Luke Walton should have University of Arizona alumni pre-game group to motivate him in games 3 &4. Coach Lute Olson and University of Arizona marching band prep rally. Will secret weapon Walton show Arizona that he's the best in Pac-ten conference or benchwarmer an not help his team? Who can Walton guard..Lopez, Frye, Amundson, or Dudley? Can he get out to guard three-point shooters? Sun's shot 3-17 by Frye, Dragic, and Barbosa. Turnovers kill Suns with 17 ten by Nash and Stoudemire.
You miss 10 to 15 points scoring due to missed scores from turnovers by Nash.Suns need to get shots at basket on each possession, not turnovers, block shots, steals, or fouls. Sun's are out of shape to run 48 minutes plus 5 minutes for each overtime period. Suns marthon should be started to see which Suns can run 26 mile length. Old man Allen of Boston ran Boston Marthon with his mother, then beat Cavs. Biggest problem with Sun's inexperience in playoff situations. Suns are where Lakers were three years ago before Gasol trade happened. Without Gasol, game would have been even or win by Suns. Nice, young team. Suns can still win four in row, if, they get over loss to Laker's. Champions, Olympians, and Winners can make a run on another defending Champion. Boston has five all-star players on court with four of five with MVP's from championships, all-star games, and league titles.
Suns need to break through to next level or trade to improve team. Steve Kerr is still wondering about a title. Ask Lute Olson about players to obtain
Willl secret weapon Walton be a factor in next two games? Can he score against Pac-Ten centers? Will Super Walton or Benchwarmer Walton come to games? Will University of Arizona cheerleaders, band, and alumni come out to support Walton?

Art-FL Laker Fan,

Most of what you say is true, for most NBA players. But, if you want you face on Mt. Rushmore, you have to have beaten the best at their best. Russell isn't as revered if he weren't constantly beating back the simply inhuman Chamberlain.

Two of Jordan's rings came while beating back the greatest one-two punch possibly in the history of the game in Stockton and Malone. Plus, he kept fending off the Knicks, who wanted his blood.

You've gotta climb Mt. Everest at least once if you want to be immortal.

Part of Magic Johnson's legend is his first MBA title, won on the Parque floor, in hostile territory, the very nexus of so many Laker tragedies. Part of it is his playing all five positions in enemy territory.

Who you beat becomes part of the story.

I want Boston.

--FEARless

Kobe scores 40 in Game 1. That was just a set-up. Kobe scores only 21 in Game 2 but bolsters that with 13 assists. Now the Suns have absolutely NO IDEA of how to stop him or the Lakers.
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Dear Derek Fisher,
A large majority of Laker Fans, myself included, have called for your resignation due to what seemed like an inability on your part to keep up with or cover the younger, quicker Point Guards in the league during this regular season, but sir let me be the first to admit our folly and to apologize to you. It is obvious that you were built like a pit bull for a reason and meant only for the Playoffs because, honestly, where are all those younger or quicker PGs now???... Westbrook? On vacation… Williams? Gone fishin’… Nash? Soon to be eliminated… Rondo? TBD (To Be Defeated). As long as you wear Purple & Gold I promise to NEVER AGAIN second-guess your play.
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Amare about Gasol: “I owned him when he played in Memphis…”
Amare about Odom: “He got lucky…”
Phoenix Fans to Amare: “SHUT THE EFF UP MAN!!!!”
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It’s funny, while watching the Lakers dismantle the Suns and the Green Weenies dismantle the Nor-lando Tragic, I can’t help but to hum the tune from Ludicris “Move B!#CH GET OUT THE WAY!!!”
And when thinking of another shot at Gangrene… I hear Marvin Gaye’s all time Classic “Let’s Get It Onnnn… OOOhhhh Baby… Let’s Get It ON!!!!!!!!!!”

p ang and Tom Daniels...

Very sound points about the Lakers' "length". To me, it always sound like the commentators try to minimize the Lakers' skill level. Lamar, Pau and Drew are all very well rounded players who are also very tall. Plus they're all "LUCKY"!!!

WE WANT BOSTON, WE WANT BOSTON clap, clap, clap clap clap!!
WE WANT BOSTON, WE WANT BOSTON clap, clap, clap clap clap!!
WE WANT BOSTON, WE WANT BOSTON clap, clap, clap clap clap!!
WE WANT BOSTON, WE WANT BOSTON clap, clap, clap clap clap!!

Plus they're all "LUCKY"!!! Posted by: bronxlakerfan | May 20, 2010 at 08:54
OH NO, Not you to Bronx LakerFan. Lol!

What's funny in that troll bandwagon is that DFish is the ballboy, he's not even big enough to play with the other trolls hahaha

Lakers can't play defense. 112 points?

Lakers will get to the finals, alright. But they will be trounced by the Celtics in 6.

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Posted by: A2Z | May 20, 2010 at 08:34 AM
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Hey A2Hole,

I will definitely "mark" your words... the way my dog marks his territory.

Laker fan-

You cant judge KG by his stats. He isnt gonna average 30pts a game because he doesnt shoot enough. Its hard to average 30 on 15-20 shots. If has to share the shots with Pierce, Allen and Rondo. He shoots around 50% from the field so Im sure if he took 30 shots a game he would average around 30pts.

His value cant be measured by stats. His presence in the paint means guards think twice about taking it to the basket. As Im sure you know, penetration breaks down a defense. When they do decide to take it to the basket he is there to either block or alter shots. Last time I checked the NBA doesnt have an official stat for altered shots. He is also a great weak side defender.

In round 1 vs Miami? He shut down Beasley. Round 2 vs Jamison? He shut him down too. Round 3 vs Lewis? He has shut him down so far. Even if Lewis doesnt usually take the ball to the basket, he has a much more difficult time shooting over KGs length. It doesnt mean he will always shut him down but it makes it more difficult. You cant measure this with stats.

Last yr Rose killed us with penetration and although we won this series, it went longer than it should have. Not to mention all the extra OTs. Then in round 2 without KG we didnt have the length to stop Heido and Lewis. Perk would have to help and he would pick up fouls or would already be in foul trouble guarding Howard so he couldnt contest.

So please stop judging KG by his stats. He could score 0 pts, grab 0 rebounds and block 0 shots and still have a huge impact on the game.

Tim (Fresno),

There's nothing wrong with calling a teammate out. You don't do it the media because the media loves to make a mountain out of a molehill. What Pau did was wrong. If Kobe did it he would be wrong, if Fish called out a teammate in the media he would be wrong.

Again what Pau did was wrong, he should have gone to Kobe. Kobe handled it the right way this time. He didn't retaliate through the media, he let it pass. Guess he learned his lesson from past media tours LOL!

I'm glad things seem to have worked out for the best, but here's hoping we don't have anymore communicating to each through the media. It's a really bad look for everybody involved.

Tim,

Didn't say the criticisms weren't founded. I said they were insubordinate. Insubordinate speaks to etiquette, not truth. In that particular conflict, Kobe showed more etiquette, restraint, and lets be honest, coldheartedness than Pau. Kobe knew that he needed his #2 sword sharp for the playoffs (his #1 sword being himself, of course).

Pau does seem pretty sharp right now, doesn't he?

BTW, though Pau's overall criticisms were in general true about Kobe, they held no water at the time because he was personally going through that mysterious bout with the "unable-to-finish-around-the-rim" infection he had. I'm glad he cleared that up.

Remember, he was also suffering from the "miss-two-big-free-throws-in-crunch-time"-itus disease. I'm surprised he was never hospitalized. That can be a devastating one-two punch for any dude's career.

Never mind, as you can clearly see, PJ is obviously a Cylon. He obviously has a plan. And it is obviously coming together.

--FEARless

LUCKY
So you say the Lakers are lucky and when they meet Boston, Afraid they should Be
Afraid of a skank in a wheelchair, come on LakersBlog please don’t go there
But Mamba the Celtics they play such great “D” Pop one of them and then you’ll see
They are human nothing more, that’s why the Lakers sweep Celtics in four
Laker Blog you are afraid of the Past., this is now and we’re whipping @zz
Yes the Celtics are playing good, But that’s the East and so they should
We come from the Wild Wild west, I dare declare the Laker’s are the best
No Pau is not a thug, But I wouldn’t advise getting in his mug.
Don’t let that baby face fool ya, In these finals Pau is gonna school Ya
Don’t you think Pau has pride, behind no man’s back will he hide
H took care of Superman last year so he can handle a Giant gren lunatic you hear
We can play slow we can play fast, however we play we whipping @zzz
So fear not The Celtics this is true, Were the World champ Lakers whip @zz what we do

HalosAnt,

Perfect post. You've said it all. We can all now go home!

'Nuff said!

--FEARless

I whould said only one thing. Pau Gasol is better that everybody only with ONE EYEEEE....

Who´s the best point guard in this current Laker team: PG
Who´s the best PF in this current Laker team: PG
Who´s the best C in this current Laker team: PG
Who´s the best point-center guard in this Laker team: PG
Who´s the best PF/C in the complete Laker History: PG

PG = Pau Gasol.

Who´s the semi- finals´MVP?????

Lakers = Pau Gasol
Celtics= Rondo

@MAMBA24..

Good Morning, sir!
Yessir, me too! Amare should shut his pie hole and play some ball. Pau opened him up like a can of tuna in the 4th Q! And Lamar posterized his sorry butt! It ain't about length...it's about Bball skillz and heart!!

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WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE, GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD AND INTO YOUR HEART - BANDWAGON
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(01) HOBBITMAGE - OWNER - Kobe, LO, Artest & Shannon have all played hurt because they wanted to be ready for this. We are mentally strong. We have home court advantage. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE!!! Get that into your head and into your heart!
(02) TEAMN - DRIVER - Great post, last line sounds like a bandwagon!
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - I'm riding this sucker
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(05) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN -

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RON ARTEST APPRECIATION – BANDWAGON
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(01) JUSTANOTHEMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I just have to express my appreciation for Ron Artest. I didn't want him. I was totally against him becoming a Laker. "He's crazy" I said. "He's looney tunes". "He talks about himself in the 3rd person". Yadda yadda yadda. I have since eaten crow with a huge side of humble pie. Keep doing what you're doing and you're gonna get your ring, Ronron. 6 more wins and it's all yours. This man is the perfect teammate. All heart, hustle and defense. No trouble. Not a lot of drama. Not even a hint of crazy. He's like Kobe in the sense that once he's focused, he's all in. He's locked down some of the best players in the game, and we ain't seen nothing yet. I love him. I love Ron Artest. I hope he's a Laker for Life.
(02) MAGIC PHIL – DRIVER - Two words for you, justa: ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers.
(03) MAMBA24 – RIDING SHOTGUN – Three words for you justa “”Add Me too”.
(04) #4 - I appreciate Ron Artest's efforts to be the player that we need. I think he'll actually get much better next year.
(05) RICK FRIEDMAN – I appreciate it too!
(06)WALLACE - Put me on "RonRon's Bandwagon."Yes, I've always like Ron's game ever since he was with Chicago. Ron is similar to Kobe that he's a fierce competitor and back off from no one. It's a good character on our team. He has proven his worth in the playoff and look forward for his match-up against Paula Pierce in the Finals.
(07) VMAN – WAR GENERAL - Another beat of the War drum. The team is bonded, focused, ready for the first attack. Ron Artest defines the effort "we got to play like we did in the projects in Queens". Who was that meant for? He's ready, we're ready, it won't be long now.


(13) THE INFAMOUS EL GUAPO - I don't always prefer crazy, but when I do I prefer the Ron Artest on the Lakers type of crazy. Consider this my boarding pass onto the Ron Artest Appriciation band wagon. I would like to Reserve the lucky #13 slot because thats the way I roll
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utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER YOUR LAKERSBLOG FAMILY MISS YOU – BANDWAGON
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(01) JON K. – OWNER/UNDRCOVER AGENT SUPREME – utzworld we miss you.
(02) MAMBA24 – TEMP. DRIVER – Allright Utzworld I can play prima donna & disappear from time to time cause I’m just a Court Jester, But we need you brother. I beg you, come back and help the famiily
Finish this push to the title and help consolidate Dynasty #4 and our Legacy. I believe that you are the one who first reminded us there were Laker Dynasties and Legacy’s way back in the good old days. I know you may be going thru more serious things – God bless You, Your Daughter & your Family – but if you find a moment here and there come on back. Thanks Brother. Regardless, STAY STRONG AND GOD BLESS YOUR DAUGHTER.
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(04) #4 - UTZ, your presence is missed. Always liked what you had to say.
(05) RICK FRIEDMAN - I'm confident we will see a return of our BANNER HOLDER upon the official match-up for the Finals.
(06)EASTCOASTJESSIE - ***
(06)EASTCOASTJESSIE - UTZZZZZZZZ So good to see you back man. Miss the gameday prayers.

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BACK TO BACK PAYBACK our DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON
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X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, HIT IT LAKER TOM! PARADE TIME!!! RINGS!!
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When Dark threatens to Extinguish Light, Lakers and Celtics Collide. When Good and Evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics Collide. When Love is threatened by Hate, Lakers / Celtics Collide
The path is clear. It's time to get Ugly, turn up the tough. Pain? what Pain? Injuries? Cut me.
No Fear, the Suns shall Illuminate our path, aid in our preparation for the battle ahead.
The Good, the Light, the Love, will Prevail... Rise Up! GO Lakers! @ VMAN
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(01) TIM-4-SHOW – OWNER - One thing is clear, like it or not... Back2Back Payback - Kobe would like to thank all those fans in Boston that chanted MVP while Paula and Doc were purposely throwing games in a desperate attempt to salvage a dead franchise. Lakers get the last word. Last meeting of the 1980s, Lakers win on Boston home floor. Last meeting of the 2000s (2000-2020), Lakers win on Boston home floor in stunning game 5. As a token of appreciation, you will get to cheer for him in person as he's handed the Bill Russel finals MVP trophy after game 5 at center court.
(02) VMAN – DRIVER - When dark threatens to extinguish light, Lakers and Celtics collide. When good and evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics collide. When love is threatened by hate, Lakers / Celtics collide@ VMAN
(03) JEANETTE – DRIVER - agree with most regarding Odom. He is in it for the redemption against the Suns and Celts on the next round. This year is the year that the Lakers will redefine greatness. THE TIME IS NOW!!! It is just the beginning of greater things to come.
(04) # 4
(05) ZAIRA AMATERASU – DIRECTOR FINALS WIN # 3 - This year is shaping up to be the Revenge Year. So let's keep having the Suns, then let's have the Celtics (very likely at this point) to complete the full circle.
(06) EDWIN GUECO – JUDGE - Once they get to the Finals, it is our time for redemption. This will be a back to back redemption against a Forbidden State and against Tormenting Leprechauns.
(07) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - DEF need a seat on the bandwagon!! I'll stand if I have to. Hell - I'll strap myself to the roof it there's no more room!!!
(08) MAMBA24 – Revenge a wise person says is a dish best served cold. Our hearts are cold and dispassionate as we sweep away the garbage and clear a path for our Victory parade
(09) EAST COAST JESSE - Looks like it's gonna be a Lakers/Celtics final people. I can't wait!!!!!!!
(10) LAKERLASS - find me a little spot on that bandwagon. I know the Suns are going to throw every thing they can at us so we must be ready to go in for the kill. Posted
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL - Make sure those PHX fans understand DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!! (12) CORNER J - I wouldn't even watch the next series...it'll be the first 7-game series ever stopped after 3 on a mercy rule).
(13) RDLEE - With the Kobe face, the broom is ready
(14) BRONXLAKERFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN - If you've got the broom, I've got the dustpan!
(15) KEIFO - - DIRECTOR WIN #4 WCF - Put me on the bandwagon- I've got my dustbuster!!
(16) FATTY – DIRECTOR WIN #2 FINALS - That's all you will hear from me on that. In the mean time, I will be looking for my broom. Let's see, where did I put that thing. I just had it out last week.
(17) KOBESBAD - Please put me on the bandwagon...Kobe is a very baaaaaaad man!
(18)DAVE M. - RECYCLING DIRECTOR - bandwagon me please. Those little dust bunnies need to be swept up and tossed in the garbage.
(19)TEAMN – SECURITY- Kobe Bryant is one bad mofo -- that turnaround j in the second half was unbelievable, I don't even think he had time to see the basket it was so quick!Incredible game by just about
(20) FEARLESS - From your mouth to all our hearts. As you say, so say we all. Let the Green Blood spill! We would have any, but we thirst for only one: Boston. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the coming of the real Clash of the Titans.
(21) J24(LADY-JEM24) – On to the next beat down
(22) MR.NANO - I also think we can win in 4, IF they continue focused. Let's just crush 'em.
(23) RICK FRIEDMAN – DIRECTOR PARADE CELEBRATION TITLE # 16 - You have a DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON and haven't saved me a seat? Surely, this must be an oversight, and not a slight.
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There is something that most of us have overlooked, but the MM seems to have a bead on, Bynum starting is one of the things that initially sets teams on their heels. Even if he only plays 17 minutes total or whatever. You must no know what it is like for poor little Steve Nash to come down the court of their first possession (which is perinially the second possession of the game since Bynum is *still* winning all the jump balls) and have his very fist pass deflected and the Lakers are already the first team running out for a quick score of some sort.

Even if the Lakers miss, that dread has already happened in the pit of his stomach. Remember, the Suns are supposed to be the Kings of the Run-outs. Not with Bynum in there they aren't. They aren't for every minute he's in the game.

That noise we hear when Bynum goes to the bench? The collective sigh from the other team.

Bynum isn't winning games for us. That is Kobe, Pau, and Fish. With Odom around to throw a wrench into whatever scheme the other coach thinks he's coming up with.

Bynum is affective the other teams' psyches. And PJ, trust me on this, knows this very well. There are many things PJ does just to get under the skin of his opponents. Sometimes, these are things that have nothing to do with victory per se. But sometimes pay dividends in crunch time later on down the line.

You can bet Boston is now wondering just how healthy Bynum is. They've gotta believe that it is entirely possible that PJ is saving him up for the Finals and that Bynum's supposed "injury" was just a ruse to get the weenies off guard.

With PJ, you never really know.

To me, 13 points and 6 rebounds in 17 minutes doesn't sound all that injured. On five-for-five shooting?

Hmmmm.....

--FEARless

Who's not gonna be Finals MVP:PG
Who's gonna stop PG:KG

PG= Pau Gasol
KG= Kevin Garnett

Hey BronxLakerfan!. I like Amare but sometimes, the guy can be soooo stupid!

Fan of the Mamba,FEARless -

You guys are absolutely right about not getting the media involved in things of that sort. Pau should have gone to Kobe instead of discussing it in public. He wasn't vicious in his criticism but should have known better.
Kobe too had his share of mistakes like Pau's in the past but he has matured. I guess Pau will too, with time. He doesn't have an inflated ego like Shaq's and clearly wants to win almost as badly as Kobe.

I whould said only one thing. Pau Gasol is better that everybody only with ONE EYEEEE....
Posted by: ricky | May 20, 2010 at 09:13 AM
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I have to agree with Ricky here.
Pau is better than any other player with one eye.

I whould said only one thing. Pau Gasol is better that everybody only with ONE EYEEEE....
Posted by: ricky | May 20, 2010 at 09:13 AM
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I have to agree with Ricky here.
Pau is better than any other player with one eye.

Also,

I almost forgot to say in my defense of MM (who didn't ask me to say anything at all), he didn't say that the Suns were counting on Bynum's injury to succeed. What he gave were a list of supposed cracks int he Lakers armor that maybe a team like the Suns might list as ways they can exploit to defeat the Lakers. MM then went on to show the specific folly in relying on any of those faults benefiting your team in any way. Because the Lakers always seem to have a counter. To everything.

Read the article carefully, and you will see the truth.

--FEARless

Attention Laker Fans:

Make sure you have your Birth Certificates and/or Green Cards handy...

WE'RE OFF TO ARIZONA!!!

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Hey Mamba24,

Can I hitch a ride on the BANDWAGON? GO LAKERS!!!!!!

I have to agree with Ricky here. Pau is better than any other player with one eye. Posted by: Art - FL Lakers Fan | May 20, 2010 at 09:29 AM
LMAO!!!! STOP IT ART!!!

Can I hitch a ride on the BANDWAGON? GO LAKERS!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | May 20, 2010 at 09:37 AM
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YES YOU CAN!!

I'm sitting here thinking of this and I realize that it really must suck when you have your big men getting dunked on, casually, without much effort, by some kid prospect of a center who's always injured (and who is currently injured) like it was nothing. NOTHING. The kid doesn't even look like he's trying that hard and he's making it look like you don't even have a team!

Almost a point a minute? And his knee is all swollen? And the Suns just beat the Spurs down? What the heck?

Then, to add injury to insult (because, lets be real, Bynum is currently just the insult -- which is actually the fun part of competitive sports), his backup is Lamar Odom? Possibly the most versatile player in the whole league.

WTF?!?!

I give them credit for even being in that last game. They had to overcome their own lost emotions and feeling of dread. That is impressive.

But I do know they were glad when PJ took him out.

--FEARless

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BACK TO BACK PAYBACK our DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON
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X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, HIT IT LAKER TOM! PARADE TIME!!! RINGS!!
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When Dark threatens to Extinguish Light, Lakers and Celtics Collide. When Good and Evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics Collide. When Love is threatened by Hate, Lakers / Celtics Collide
The path is clear. It's time to get Ugly, turn up the tough. Pain? what Pain? Injuries? Cut me.
No Fear, the Suns shall Illuminate our path, aid in our preparation for the battle ahead.
The Good, the Light, the Love, will Prevail... Rise Up! GO Lakers! @ VMAN
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(01) TIM-4-SHOW – OWNER - One thing is clear, like it or not... Back2Back Payback - Kobe would like to thank all those fans in Boston that chanted MVP while Paula and Doc were purposely throwing games in a desperate attempt to salvage a dead franchise. Lakers get the last word. Last meeting of the 1980s, Lakers win on Boston home floor. Last meeting of the 2000s (2000-2020), Lakers win on Boston home floor in stunning game 5. As a token of appreciation, you will get to cheer for him in person as he's handed the Bill Russel finals MVP trophy after game 5 at center court.
(02) VMAN – DRIVER - When dark threatens to extinguish light, Lakers and Celtics collide. When good and evil can't coexist for another second, Lakers / Celtics collide. When love is threatened by hate, Lakers / Celtics collide@ VMAN
(03) JEANETTE – DRIVER - agree with most regarding Odom. He is in it for the redemption against the Suns and Celts on the next round. This year is the year that the Lakers will redefine greatness. THE TIME IS NOW!!! It is just the beginning of greater things to come.
(04) # 4
(05) ZAIRA AMATERASU – DIRECTOR FINALS WIN # 3 - This year is shaping up to be the Revenge Year. So let's keep having the Suns, then let's have the Celtics (very likely at this point) to complete the full circle.
(06) EDWIN GUECO – JUDGE - Once they get to the Finals, it is our time for redemption. This will be a back to back redemption against a Forbidden State and against Tormenting Leprechauns.
(07) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - DEF need a seat on the bandwagon!! I'll stand if I have to. Hell - I'll strap myself to the roof it there's no more room!!!
(08) MAMBA24 – Revenge a wise person says is a dish best served cold. Our hearts are cold and dispassionate as we sweep away the garbage and clear a path for our Victory parade
(09) EAST COAST JESSE - Looks like it's gonna be a Lakers/Celtics final people. I can't wait!!!!!!!
(10) LAKERLASS - find me a little spot on that bandwagon. I know the Suns are going to throw every thing they can at us so we must be ready to go in for the kill. Posted
(11) PSYCHEDLAKERGIRL - Make sure those PHX fans understand DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!! (12) CORNER J - I wouldn't even watch the next series...it'll be the first 7-game series ever stopped after 3 on a mercy rule).
(13) RDLEE - With the Kobe face, the broom is ready
(14) BRONXLAKERFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN - If you've got the broom, I've got the dustpan!
(15) KEIFO - - DIRECTOR WIN #4 WCF - Put me on the bandwagon- I've got my dustbuster!!
(16) FATTY – DIRECTOR WIN #2 FINALS - That's all you will hear from me on that. In the mean time, I will be looking for my broom. Let's see, where did I put that thing. I just had it out last week.
(17) KOBESBAD - Please put me on the bandwagon...Kobe is a very baaaaaaad man!
(18)DAVE M. - RECYCLING DIRECTOR - bandwagon me please. Those little dust bunnies need to be swept up and tossed in the garbage.
(19)TEAMN – SECURITY- Kobe Bryant is one bad mofo -- that turnaround j in the second half was unbelievable, I don't even think he had time to see the basket it was so quick!Incredible game by just about
(20) FEARLESS - From your mouth to all our hearts. As you say, so say we all. Let the Green Blood spill! We would have any, but we thirst for only one: Boston. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the coming of the real Clash of the Titans.
(21) J24(LADY-JEM24) – On to the next beat down
(22) MR.NANO - I also think we can win in 4, IF they continue focused. Let's just crush 'em.
(23) RICK FRIEDMAN – DIRECTOR PARADE CELEBRATION TITLE # 16 - You have a DATE WITH DESTINY– BANDWAGON and haven't saved me a seat? Surely, this must be an oversight, and not a slight.
(24) HALOSANT - Can I hitch a ride on the BANDWAGON

I'm gonna go ahead and throw in my 2 cents regarding this whole Pau thing...

First of all, IMO when Pau made the remarks about getting more touches, I really don't think that they were specifically aimed at Kobe, but more so to the whole team. If I remember correctly, at the time, the whole team was in the "let's-just-jack-up-any-shot-and-not-run-our-effective-offense" mode. Listen, I think everyone here can agree that Pau is one of the smartest and most talented Big Men in the league today. His talent stood out so much in Memphis that everyone at least knew his name when they couldn't name any other on that team.

And now finally on a team with comparable talent and in a system that not only highlights his talents and intelligence but allows him to flourish and win Championships... he has every right to "call out" his teammates when they weren't performing to the standards that they needed to. He has EARNED that right with this team. And Kobe understood that. Kobe didn't have to say anything because he knew those comments weren't directed at him and in all likelyhood, probably agreed with Pau.

If Kobe & Pau decided to get into Head Coaching as a tandem, PJ's record could be in serious jeopardy.

@HALOSANT, I don't know if anyone welcomed you or not but welcome to LakersBlog. I agree with your Post above and most people do, but they like to play Devils Advocate because they are bored. I would say right now Pau is the most valuable Big Man in The NBA.

@MAMBA24 - Thank you for both the welcome and the BANDWAGON add. I enjoy reading all the Laker Love on this blog and I especially love the verses that you put out. It's inspiring me not only to join this blog but to maybe even put together a few lines together myself.

And to all you Trolls out there... BEWARE!!!

Tread lightly when in these waters because there are all manner of Beasts that will bring you under and TEAR YOU APART...

PURPLE & GOLD - What we need, what we bleed...

FEARLESS - Thanks for the love. I may make mistakes. You guys may disagree with certain opinions. But I make lots of effort not to be biased.

MM

Hobbit,

Okay, good points. Let me consider my analysis as to why I fee the way I feel about the Lakers v Boston. Right now, I'm still not convinced our Lakers can beat the Celts.

I'll get back on this.


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