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Lakers' Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum and Shannon Brown discuss 115-106 Game 4 loss to Phoenix Suns

Lakers guard Kobe Bryant

Lakers Coach Phil Jackson

Lakers forward Pau Gasol

Lakers forward Lamar Odom

Lakers center Andrew Bynum

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Needless to say, game 5 is a must-win. If the Lakers lose this next one, they will certainly lose the series. And that means you can say goodbye to Phil Jackson and Andrew Bynum, and say hello to an entire summer of misery.

Ok then.

Can we all agree that "Defense wins championships" ?

Maybe the Spanish contingent would like to defend Pau's 5 rebounds?
[ Ricky & Escarpia, that's your cue. ]

Weren't we supposed to be a good 3-pt defending team?

Did Sasha ever buy that coach dinner? He's not getting any run time.

Would someone like to explain why our best shooter doesn't get to play?
Would someone like to explain why we're not giving Mbenga any playing
time? He hustles harder than Bynum doesn't he?

[ LakerTom, I am not picking on Bynum. ]

Can anyone explain to me why Kobe has a -4 in that +/- stat?

"Where was Mbenga?"

You know Rick, I was asking myself the same exact question!

Getting ripped on D + Bigs in foul trouble.. HELLO, we have a tool for that.

Dead serious here, MBenga would have turned the game around

Sure, it would help if Nash & Goran didn't have an express lane pass to the hole.... but if PJ wouldn't try to fix it in Dec or Jan, then he sure isn't fixing it now... answer? MBenga.

ULTIMATE KEYS TO VICTORY:

1. Offense goes through Kobe (sort of like the Cleveland offense)
2. Kobe defends Nash or Dragic when Fish is in
3. Supporting cast actually knocks down open looks

Words can't describe how utterly PO'd I am this morning so I won't even try to explain it but I was completely embarrased to call that team The Lakers last night. Pau played like a true frikkin' sissy and Lamar and Bynum had their damn heads in the clouds again. I am so sick and tired of these guys just sabotaging these games.

The Lakers are a far superior team that the Suns, hands down. The only difference is that they're playing with desperation for wins and we just expect to get the W just because we're that good. Not gonna work that way folks so they better get it together and close out in 6 in Phoenix or we may be in for an early summer.

Words can't describe how utterly PO'd I am this morning so I won't even try to explain it but I was completely embarrased to call that team The Lakers last night. Pau played like a true frikkin' sissy and Lamar and Bynum had their damn heads in the clouds again. I am so sick and tired of these guys just sabotaging these games.

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Good morning Princess, relax. Everything is under control, as someone said this is much like the Oklahoma series where it was 2-2 and the Lakers closed it out in 6. Call it laziness or whatever there are times when the rest of the supporting cast just get in a fog. I also think some of this is to fake out the Celtics. Remember they did not look that hot against OK then Blew away a confident UTAH in 4. I think they are kind of lulling the Celtics to sleep. Some of it intentionally and some of it unintentionally. This series will be over in 6 and I guarantee the FINALS will not go more than 6 with the Lakers winning. They can't appear to dominant or who's going to watch. So relax and don't worry your pretty little head about it. Love ya!
Mamba24

@TIM-4-SHOW, Keep, keeping it real brother!
Mamba24

Good morning Princess, relax. Everything is under control, as someone said this is much like the Oklahoma series where it was 2-2 and the Lakers closed it out in 6. Call it laziness or whatever there are times when the rest of the supporting cast just get in a fog. I also think some of this is to fake out the Celtics. Remember they did not look that hot against OK then Blew away a confident UTAH in 4. I think they are kind of lulling the Celtics to sleep. Some of it intentionally and some of it unintentionally. This series will be over in 6 and I guarantee the FINALS will not go more than 6 with the Lakers winning. They can't appear to dominant or who's going to watch. So relax and don't worry your pretty little head about it. Love ya!
Mamba24

Good morning Mamba,
I know it'll be ok, I just hate that we have to look like chumps out there against any team. I would've given DJ some minutes to wipe the smirk off Amare's face last night. Just can't stand it.

know it'll be ok, I just hate that we have to look like chumps out there against any team. I would've given DJ some minutes to wipe the smirk off Amare's face last night. Just can't stand it. Posted by: EastCoastJessie | May 26, 2010 at 07:25 AM
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My sentiments exactly!
Mamba24

AAARRRGGHHHHH!!!! DARN YOU LAKERS!!!!!!

OK now that's outta my system.

Obviuosly last night was another TRAIN WRECK of a game, but honestly, a lot of us predicted Lakers in either 5 or 6. So, in essence, we're still par for the course. Yeah, I know, we all EXPECTED a SWEEP after such a strong showing in Games 1 & 2, but Phoenix stuck with what worked in Game 3 and evidently the Lakers did NOTHING to adjust to it.

What is the definition of CRAZY? Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

Was it just me or did any of you notice how some effective dribble penetration with a dump off to the Bigs produced positive results against the "zone"? But did they (Lakers) try and keep that up? NNNOOOOO THEY DID NOT!!! And whatever happened to SLASHING-TO-THE-RIM when the ball is on the perimeter or the mid to low post???? Oh Ariza it's times like these that we SORELY MISS YOU!!! How come we don't have a player like Dragic?!?!? How can we get one?? Bynum, oh Bynum, I have tried to get on your side but can anyone HONESTLY say that they see ANY HUNGER in you? After 5 years I know I can't. Is it against the rules to trade for Bosh at this point?!?

KOBE CANNOT DO THIS ON HIS OWN GUYS!!! GET YOUR HEADS OUTTA YOUR YOU-KNOW-WHATS AND FINISH THIS!!!!!!!

Can you Laker fans wake up?
PHX is waaaaaaaay better than Oklahoma.
Utah had 2 starters out. Thats why you won in 4.
This Suns team is awesome.
If Frye makes 3-3pointers or more this Thursday, Lakers will lose.
You guys just got SHREDDED on defense, and you were supposed to be the almighty defense.
Bynum suks, lets face it.
If it wasnt for Kobe going off instead of his usual 15-35, the Lakers would have lost by 30. But where was your boy in the 4th quarter? MR. awesome, allworld, had only 4 field goal attempts in the 4th quarter. A real superstar would have taken over when the Suns bench was shredding them like Swiss Cheese.

Justanothermambafan and Phred,

Get your butts in gear and post something. We need some levity this morning.

Listening to Pau right now.

Do you notice how he takes not responsibility for his lack of defense?

He talked about people looking ahead. Wouldn't that be Bynum?

Oh yea, I also wanted to say how your "old boy" Fisher just hacks and uses his hands to defend. Again he tried to take out Nashs' eye or nose again. He is so old now, that's what he is resorting to. Good thing he can shoot sometimes or he'd be a bench player.
Why don't the Lakers try getting a real point guard?

Mamba-

Good morning. I guess you can file that one under the heading "you cant win them all." It happens ... you had picked about 10 ina row.

I have to say that was a great individual performance from coby last night. He was on fire and matched the hot SUNS bench shooting.

But once he started hitting all those shots, I knew the SUNS would win the game. It looked like a repeat of the 2007 bryant. He cannot win the game single handed, and it seems he was goaded into thinking so.

All in all, LA reminded me very much of CLE last night. A one-man show surrounded by role playas.

Let's all give Gentry his due - the man has stymied PJ's triangle for two games in a row. Who knew that a zone was the triangle-killer?

David Stern is pubic enemy number one in Phoenix.
Remember the Suns vs Spurs series a couple of years ago?
Suns fans have not forgotten.
I would not be surprise Mr. Stern gives Nash a ring.
The above would make-up for the Spurs/Suns series.
Sterns could then visit Arizona without death threats.
He could deny Kobe ring number 5.
He could still keep LeBron as the face of the league.
The Lakers are the best team in the NBA.
However, if Mr. Stern has his way:
I will be done with the NBA for life.

As i have said early, the Lakers have any chance to win this championship. Gasol cant guard in the Finals 4 bigs (Garnett, Wallace, Davis and Perkins) You can see in this series against Phoenix, Lopez and Stoudemire, destroying Pau (2 bigs vs. 1) 4 Bigs vs 1 is a impossible job for Pau. I prefer loss this series than against Celtics. I have see Pau tired, exhausted, burned. He fight to alone (no Drew, no Odom, no Mbenga.....nobody, nadie....)

This year Lakers cant win. Lakers is a "2 players team" (Pau and Kobe) and, for me, the rest is pure garbage like you can see last night (the bench is absolutly ZERO) You think that Vujacic, Farmar, Brown, Mbenga, Powell and Morrison can beat Toni Allen, RAsheed, Davis, Robinson, Daniels (For luck Leon Peon, Eddie House and Posey been out)

Lamar Odom as 6 man, is worsrt than Tony Allen. The same for Rondo-Fisher, Perkins-Bynum, Artest-Pierce. The matchups Kobe-Allen and Garnett-Pau been tied. Seriously guys, this year lakers have any chance.

Celtics is more Depth. Better team. Best starting 5 and better bench. LAKES HAVE ONLY 2 PLAYERS, CELTICS 6-7.

This year is impossible and i´´m sorry for Pau, but...........

MAMBA24:

You need to stop putting the blame on David Stern You sound like those survivalist who hordes up on guns and food based on the fear that world is coming to an end.

One word of advice if you don't have anything intelligent to write besides "out fricking standing" then pay attention to you work. Be productive and stop spewing garbage to the society and trust me there is plenty out there.

We are investigating the time you spend on this blog spewing unintelligent posts. Share something intelligent that we all can enjoy for a change, other than one liners..


KOBE CANNOT DO THIS ON HIS OWN GUYS!!! GET YOUR HEADS OUTTA YOUR YOU-KNOW-WHATS AND FINISH THIS!!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | May 26, 2010 at 07:33 AM
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Don't hold back HalosAnt, just say what you mean. :-)
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But where was your boy in the 4th quarter? MR. awesome, allworld, had only 4 field goal attempts in the 4th quarter. A real superstar would have taken over when the Suns bench was shredding them like Swiss Cheese.Posted by: PHX Bigdog | May 26, 2010 at 07:34 AM
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WHERE WAS YOUR BOY IN THE 4TH QUARTER? A REAL SUPERSTAR?
Well sir, you will see a Real Superstar by the name of Kobe Bryant, totaly make the Suns look like the nothings they are for all 4 quarters thursday. Don't take kindness for weakness. We let up on your pathetic lil team because we kind of felt sorry for it and Steve Nash & Grant Hill are really nice, decent people. But That ISH is over. Thursday no quarter will be given. We could have blown the Suns @zz's out by 40 in the 1st game but took pity on their pathetic - no winning title in their history - @zzes. When the Freakin Suns win their 1ST championship maybe we'll have something to talk about. Of course by that time the Lakers will probably be on their 6th Dynasyy and 25 championship. By the way those couple of Westerm Conference Banners you have flying at your stadium look real cute. If you want to see the real thing come to the Staples Center and see 15 NBA Finals Banners soon to be 16. See ya now!
Mamab24


PHX Big Dog -

How satisfying was it last nite to see Fischer get his ankles broken by Dragic? That was the play of the game!

Fischer doesn't have the ability to play like a true PG. Thus he uses bully tactics whenever LA gets down in a game, because it's about the only thing he can offer if he's not getting spot-up threes. Kenny Smith was correct last night in saying that LA is handicapped without a true PG against the PHX zone.

The Suns just did "what they're supposed to do" which is: win at home.
Gotta respect Alvin Gentry.

I'm a bit disappointed in God (again). He was supposed to keep Drew's and Lamar's heads in the game.

Matchups.

Rondo v. Fisher = Rondo
Kobe v. Allen = Kobe
Artest v. Pierce = Pierce
Pau vs KG = tied
Bynum v. Perks = Perks (b/c Bynum injuries and unexperience)
Odom v. T. Allen = Allen

Bench: Tony Allen, Davis, Wallace, Daniels, Robinson vs.
Farmar, Bronw, Mbenga, Morrison, Walton, Vujacic

I think the Celtics bench is more better than Lakers bench.

Big Problem in the Finals:

PAU GASOL CANT GUARD 4 BIGS ALONE (Garnett, Perkins, Wallace and Davis)

Don't take kindness for weakness. We let up on your pathetic lil team because we kind of felt sorry for it and Steve Nash & Grant Hill are really nice, decent people. But That ISH is over.
Mamab24

Not true! "except for Nash and Hill" You guys didnt let us win anything. We took it from you. You know what the "One clue" is when the Lakers are panicing?, When Kobe doesnt come out for his rest. Kobe will probably play the whole game Thursday. That is your only chance to win. When he comes out the SUNS bench again will "SHRED", I repeat, "SHRED the Lakers bench. Your bench guys aren't even close.

Mamba,
you also didn't answer my earlier question....

WHERE WAS YOUR BOY IN THE 4TH QUARTER?????

4 shots.

Mamba-Good morning. I guess you can file that one under the heading "you cant win them all." It happens ... you had picked about 10 ina row. Posted by: 131-92 | May 26, 2010 at 07:41 AM
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Haha, Well 131, you better hope I'm not on a losing streak cause I'm picking your team to totally anihilate the Magic tonight. They just got a touch overconfident and Rondo read 1 to many press clipping. The Real Cetics will be back tonight which is good because that way they will have more rest than the Lakers and you'll have no excuses when the Lakers totally dominate them in the finals. The reall Lakers will be back Thursday and they'll close it out Saturday so I guess JUNE 3 is D day. Now I hope I don't have to remind you to remember to do your pregame workout and after the game don't forget your postgame cool down. Lol See you June 3, 131 and goodluck to your boys tonight.
Mamba24

@ EastCoastJessie - I completely agree with you on letting DJ playing more... It's funny how it seems like the opposing team/s has NO RESPECT for our Bigs. What good is it to have two 7 footers in there when there is NO FEAR to come inside, especially from small PG's??? That's the ONE thing you could never take away from Shaq, he COMMANDED respect in the paint. Obviuosly Gasol isn't ever gonna get that, but he really doesn't need it. His style of play is less Shaq and more Kareem. But Bynum has been the one that they have TRIED to groom him to be more like Shaq, but injury and lack of HEART is making it more like a failig quest. DJ may not have half the talent but MORE heart and he is a BEAST that will make the opposing players RESPECT him. No WIMPY touch fouls from him, 'cuz when he fouls you YOU KNOW IT!!!

BUTLER....
beautiful to see Fisher get JUKED!!!
I watched that play numerous times, he basically just reached when "The DRAGON" blew by him. That is his MO now. Laker fans should realize that he is worthless if they are true basketball aficionados.

When he comes out the SUNS bench again will "SHRED", I repeat, "SHRED the Lakers bench. Your bench guys aren't even close. WHERE WAS YOUR BOY IN THE 4TH QUARTER????? 4 shots.
Posted by: PHX Bigdog | May 26, 2010 at 07:51 AM
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Where was he in the 4th Quarter? Doing what some freakin idiot that shall remain unamed told him to do. True our Bench isn't all that, but that too shall be rectified thursday. I know your team has never been to the Finals so you might not understand that the concept is you have to win 4 games in Western conference Final to go to the finals. Now if you are happy with a couple of wins, hey, who am I to rain on your happiness. But I suggest you wait until you have that 4th win in hand before gloating...But then again maybe not because if you wait till you have that 4th win you never will be gloating will you? So get it all out of your system now and Friday I want you to come right back here, like the man you are and express your feelings. I bet the tune you'll be singing then will be different. I won't ask you to come back Sunday after the Suns are eliminated...after all even a Lakers fan has some compassion
Enjoy your moment sir, feel good, your team did a helluva job and I salute them...Just as I'll be saluting them goodby when the Lakers are on the way to the Finals.
Mamba24

I have to admit that I only saw bits and pieces of the game last night because I kept getting so PO'd that I had to switch to cartoons to calm down. What little game I did see the Lakers were jacking up 3s, Pau was getting mugged by double teams climbing all over him, and the Suns were going to the line because they got brushed at mid-court.

What did I tell these guys about attack, attack, attack? Do they ever listen to me? It's like talkin' to my grandkids.

Not to worry, that CR...stuff isn't happening at Staples.

JR

PHX Bigdog,

It's a beautiful thing to see a bully with short man's complex get served, ain't it?

GO SUNS!

Good morning Butler, you little scamp you. Stop holding conversations with your self. I know that you and PHX Bigdog are the same person. Do You?
Mamab24

PHX Lilpup sez - "beautiful to see Fisher get JUKED!!!
I watched that play numerous times, he basically just reached when "The DRAGON" blew by him.
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Kinda like the way KOBE JUKED Grant Hill?!? Kinda like that right? Oh wait, NOT the same 'cuz Grant Over-tha-Hill fell on his @ZZ and tried to REACH out while ON THE FLOOR!!!

Close one, LilPup, go ahead and relish it for now...

Tempo and defense are my concerns going forward. If we controlled the tempo, we wouldn't be giving up an embarrassing 110+ points a game.

At some point, the Lakers need to impose their style of play on the Suns.

Go Lakers!

Kinda like the way KOBE JUKED Grant Hill?!? Kinda like that right? Oh wait, NOT the same 'cuz Grant Over-tha-Hill fell on his @ZZ and tried to REACH out while ON THE FLOOR!!! Close one, LilPup, go ahead and relish it for now..Posted by: HalosAnt | May 26, 2010 at 08:10 AM
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ROFLMFAO!! OH SWEET JESUS! Don't hurt him HalosAnt!! hahhahah!!

First of all, let me say that I'm not worried EVEN A LITTLE BIT about taking the series. I know, I know, we had a terrible game. And we made PHX look legit. But with comments like these: " How come we don't have a player like Dragic?!?!" (to which I responded to by throwing up a little bit in my mouth) we're getting our eyes off the big picture. It's the finals. We beat them soundly first two games. They're a good team. But they don't have Phil, they don't have Kobe, and in a seven game series, we can BEAT them. This poor play won't last. It's all about adjustments, and this is an elite, superior, amazing team. We didn't play well in PHX. Well, you know what? THEY CAN'T BEAT US AT HOME. THEY DIDN'T AND THEY WON'T. Why so down, Laker fans? It's not going to stay this way. We will come back, we will win the series. It's just gonna take longer. Haters say crap like "You only swept Utah because they didn't have two starters." Haters say "This isn't OKC, Phoenix is a better team." Well that "better" team CHOKED in LA. Beat by 21 first game. Do you really think a series tie is going to hold down the defending champs? No. Phoenix got theirs, I can hand them that. But it won't last. The defending World Champion Lakers will rise from this temporary set back and win this series.

I only have one more thing to say in this post: Steve Nash tripping on himself and Fisher getting called for it was a pile of crap.

so does anybody remember when Ricky said, "Pau was better than
Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem"?

does anybody remember when Ricky said, 'Pau was better than Kobe.
That Pau was the MVP of the Lakers"?

I'm just askin'

I only have one more thing to say in this post: Steve Nash tripping on himself and Fisher getting called for it was a pile of crap. Posted by: longtimelakerlover | May 26, 2010 at 08:13 AM
PREACH LONGTIME PREACH!...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!
MAMAB24

WELCOME TO TWILIGHT ZONE… .....................................

Take the case of Phoenix Suns fans, BUTLER, PHX Bigdog, bunch of unassuming folks who came from small towns in Arizona. These towns are otherwise also known as one whistle stop towns, you know what I mean. You see all their lives they had to endure the ridicule at the hands of the Lakers fans. They lived their lives in the giant shadows of the most coveted trophy in NBA, the Larry O'Brien Championship Trophy. However, to everyone’s surprise these Phoenix fans showed resolve, they hung in there like mushrooms in the dark shadows, they endured humiliation at the hands of their adversary. The only saving grace on their side was their fear of God and being absolute regulars to Sunday Church. Little did these poor Phx fans know that this day May 25, 2010 would give them hope and a fleeting spot under the sun. To them this day marked a very auspicious day, for it gave them an opportunity to shed their humble cloak, stand tall, emerge from the shadows of the Larry O'Brien trophy and play peek-a-boo with the Lakers fan. This day they were almost equal in stature. Only in Twilight Zone such a fleeting phenomenon can occur.

@Butler....Please if it wasnt for Kobe "aka" Black Mamba sensational shooting, we would've lost by 30. Everyone else played like a bunch of slow stepping, non passionate, unenthused, non energized, sissies! Kobe of 2007 had to take those shots with non players like dern kwame and smush as teamates, and then when told to dish to those lousy idiots, they said he tanked because the idiots couldnt make the shots. Shoot too much, he is a hog, shoot to little he should've taken over, COme of kobe balls, the man made the right choices and did what was needed and lawful last nite, those so called teamates he had just didn't do the same! The man still had assists which means he found his teamates, had some of them made their shots, he wouldve had alot more! I mean im not even a fricken coach and I was screaming at them to drive the lane, more times than not you will get a fricken foul. Just keep driving! Keep driving! MAn up LA! Man up!

so does anybody remember when Ricky said, "Pau was better than Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem"? does anybody remember when Ricky said, 'Pau was better than Kobe. That Pau was the MVP of the Lakers"? I'm just askin' Posted by: hobbitmage | May 26, 2010 at 08:15 AM
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ROFLMFAO!! WAHAHAHAHA STOP IT, PLEASE STOP IT NOW! OH THE HUMANITY!!! WAHAHAHAHHHAHA!!
MAMBA24

Laker fan-

What happened? What a joy it was to see the Phoenix bench blow out your starters last nite. Did you see what a real bench looks like. Remember at the start of the year I told you that your bench sucked? Allow me to remind you ... your bench sucks!!! They cant score and they cant defend. What a pleasure it was to see Luke get some well earned minutes. Wheres the machine?

And your defense(or lack of) was outstanding. Didnt you get Dribble Dribble cuz he was a lock down defender? You said he could guard 1-4. Was that 1-4 ... am or pm? Dribble Dribble would lock down one guy while Kobe locks down another ... LMAO! I really think I can take Farmer off the dribble and score 30. And your bigs? LMAO!!!

And your offense. What happened to all your sharp shooters. If we meet in the final ... guess who gonna be open? Has there ever been a worse outside shooting team in the NBA? Seriously, you have about 5 guys who cant shoot straight. The best part is that they are so dumb that they dont know why they are so open!

But dont worry Laker fan ... Phil is making all the necessary adjustments as we speak. He couldnt the last couple of days because he was too busy talking to the Bulls and the Nets. Nothing like having a coach worried about getting paid next year in the middle of the WCF.

Ha! I lived in AZ for a cruel and hot year. Relegated to the desert and a town with a team that didn't even make the finals, it was beautiful to wear my Laker gear and draw the hisses and boos of a dry and thirsty town. Even better was turning around and asking them how many championships they've won, only to stop and say "oh wait..." Suns fans, demoralized by their lack of rings turned around, bright red and unable to say anything but a smattering of "rapist" digs, to which I just laughed and said "Is that all you got?" Backwards, backwards state. But that's just my opinion.

The only saving grace on their side was their fear of God and being absolute regulars to Sunday Church. Little did these poor Phx fans know that this day May 25, 2010 would give them hope and a fleeting spot under the sun. To them this day marked a very auspicious day, for it gave them an opportunity to shed their humble cloak, stand tall, emerge from the shadows of the Larry O'Brien trophy and play peek-a-boo with the Lakers fan. This day they were almost equal in stature. Only in Twilight Zone such a fleeting phenomenon can occur.Posted by: Rod Serling | May 26, 2010 at 08:15 AM
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A FREAKIN CLASSIC!!! OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR
MAMBA24

What's Bill Plashcke got to say about BOS now?

Is bynumb still preparing for the BOS series, and "saving himself" for the "real" battle?

131-92,

The joy you received from our poor play is negated by the joy I felt seeing Paula choke on two threes and then lose the ball on the last possession. It was an awesome moment, calling for a moment of silence for me, broken by my laughter over his lack of skill. "Boston who?" is what Magic fans are saying. "Paula who?"

They're gonna beat you tonight. You done awoken the sleeping giant (who I believe is named Dwight) and you're looking creaky and ollllllllld.

Boston. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mamba24 -

I know of only one BUTLER! PHX Bigdog is here on his own accord.

Seriously, did you know that the zone defeats the triangle?

...and to add to my post above, even the commentators were saying Boston looked old. Ollllld. Creakkkkyyyy. Lackkkkinnnnnggggg. I loved it.

I know your team has never been to the Finals so you might not understand that the concept is you have to win 4 games in Western conference Final to go to the finals.
Mamba.

Please get your facts straight.
The Suns have been to the FINALS TWICE!! 1976-1993

Your stuck in your own little Laker world where you have to buy players to win Championships. Jealousy has set in on Laker Land. It took KOBE to cry like a little"bitch" to get him some players when he quit palying against the Suns in 2007. Wonder if he will do that again if they lose game 5!

Pau is better than Chamberlain? YES
Pau is better than Shaq? YES
Pau is better than Rusell? YES
Pau is better than Kareem? YES

Pau is better than Chamberlain, Shaq, Rusell and Kereem all together? NOOOO

What on earth did they do in between games 3 and 4 if not practice how to beat the zone? Montana is looking more and more plausible a destination for the greatest coach of all time....Posted by: God | May 26, 2010 at 08:16 AM
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All right God, please forgive me but...what is this crap. You told us yourself you were a Lakers fan so now you laying down on the team when they need your help and then criticize them too. God this is a very disturbing development. i am beginning to think you are not God at all but the scoundrel
Satan, who masquerades in human form as Darth Stern. Now i haven't completely become convinced of this but if you pull this ISH again thursday then I'll know you are indeed that demon Lucifer masquerading as The Father and I will be forced to lead Armageddon against you.
Mamba24

Speaking of coaches, isn't Doc talking about leaving Boston? Nothing like a coach talking about leaving a team in the middle of a year, getting ready for playoffs. But don't worry. He'll have more time to think about it when the Magic kill Boston (who?) tonight!

It's a beautiful thing to see a bully with short man's complex get served, ain't it?

GO SUNS!

Posted by: BUTLER

Very well said!! Ditto!

Pau Gasol cant beat the Celtics 4 bigs. Anyone can. Lakers have only 1 big that can play (Gasol) the rest (Bynum, Mbenga and Powell) for me, no been real NBA players (Bynum cant play any playoff game last 3 years, Mbenga simply cant play, and Powell is not a Big b/c his size) Obviuously Odom is PF.

Lakers have only 1 legitimate big (PF really). Celtics have 4 bigs than can play (Garnett, Perkins, Wallace and Davis). Seriously guys, Lakers have no chance this year.

Jealousy has set in on Laker Land.

Yes. Yes it has. Jealously and zealously pursuing another championship!!

Speaking of going to the finals TWICE!!!, just wondering if you've ever won?

Oh wait...

Pau is better than Chamberlain, Shaq, Rusell and Kereem all together? NOOOO Posted by: Ricky | May 26, 2010 at 08:27 AM
DAMMNIT WHERE'S THE NURSE OR DOCTOR? WILL YOU PLEASE GET SOMEONE HERE FAST AND PUT THIS RAVING LUNATIC IN RESTRAINTS? AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT CALL SECURITY AND HAVE THEM PUT A 24 HOUR GUARD AROUND PAU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MANIAC IS CAPABLE OF.
MAMBA24


But dont worry Laker fan ... Phil is making all the necessary adjustments as we speak. He couldnt the last couple of days because he was too busy talking to the Bulls and the Nets. Nothing like having a coach worried about getting paid next year in the middle of the WCF. Posted by: 131-92 | May 26, 2010 at 08:17 AM
ROFLMFAO!! COLD 131, ICY!!!
mamba24

OK LTLlover - You are spot-on with what you said, but admit it, don't you wish, just a teensie-weensie little bit, that Farmar and/or Brown could come off the bench and play LIKE this Dragic kid (Farmar especially)??? Tell me it wouldn't be nice to see.

As I have stated before, as a TRUE LAKER FAN, I will NEVER admit defeat or even that a team will defeat us in a playoff series..EVER. But it won't stop me from venting frustration when they play like crap, or a DESIRE to see our players play MORE LIKE a player that I see either burning us or playing with what appears like more desire than our own.

Here is some water to wash that taste out of your mouth...lol!

LAKERS 'TIL THA DAY I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roll call Mamba please. I'm looking for the unification it brings! GO LAKERS!!!

Also, I'm kinda wondering where these Phoenix bandwagon fans were when they were losing in games 1 and 2? Oh right - crying in their closet. My bad.

Speaking of coaches, isn't Doc talking about leaving Boston? Nothing like a coach talking about leaving a team in the middle of a year, getting ready for playoffs. But don't worry. He'll have more time to think about it when the Magic kill Boston (who?) tonight! Posted by: longtimelakerlover | May 26, 2010 at 08:28 AM
OH MY GOD!!! THIS IS A SLUGFEST!! ROFLMAO!!
MAMAB24

Justanothermambafan and Phred,

Get your butts in gear and post something. We need some levity this morning.

Posted by: Rick Friedman


Good morning CRUE!

Well Rick, I gotta tell ya, I'm not in a humorous mood today. I'm still so pissed off about the game last night I can't think straight. Plus, because of the crapfest I was forced to watch I couldn't get my beauty sleep so it's downright ugly up in here today lol! (No comments please.)

But seriously folks....

I expect LA to fricken MAN UP tomorrow night and BEAST the crap outta these fricken pretenders. These pups who are still wet behind the ears need a good smack down, and the Lakers are just the team to provide them with what they need, cuz this is the NBA and it's where caring happens.

And HELL YES - I'd love to see Mbenga get a little burn. I'd like to see that fricken Dragon guy sashay his little hiney into the paint when DJ is there. He'd get a quick intro to Mr. Floor - you can bet the house on that.

A little heart people. A little faith.

We got this.

GO LAKERS!!

Nothing but another title will suffice - Kobe Bryant

131-92,

The joy you received from our poor play is negated by the joy I felt seeing Paula choke on two threes and then lose the ball on the last possession. It was an awesome moment, calling for a moment of silence for me, broken by my laughter over his lack of skill. "Boston who?" is what Magic fans are saying. "Paula who?"

They're gonna beat you tonight. You done awoken the sleeping giant (who I believe is named Dwight) and you're looking creaky and ollllllllld.

Boston. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: longtimelakerlover | May 26, 2010 at 08:23 AM

LTLL-

If your gonna talk smack ... at least have your facts straight. He first lost the ball then he choked on 2 3s. He lost the ball at the end of the regulation. The 3s were in ot. Not the other way around.

Please come back when you have your facts straight!

"The Suns have been to the FINALS TWICE!! 1976-1993"

Yes. That's certainly something to be proud of. To the finals twice, nearly twenty years apart. So impressive.

Even if the Lakers win the series(which they should, they have home court) it's nice to see the Laker fans bag on their own players. This is my favorite part of the board. But if you really look at it, the Lakers suk with Kobe. Gasol is just a big oaf in the middle who has feet like bricks and barely jumps to get the ball in the hoop. Artest is due to go off here real soon. Odom IS LUCKY! Fisher is just a hacker. Luke Walton just plain suks. Brown and Farmar, well aren't that good.

Damn! just.....Damn!

ROD SERLING, an amazing piece!

Exactly a year ago, it was 2-2 against DEN in the WCF. 'Deja vu, all over again'.

Oh well, so now it's a best of 3 series, with 2 of the games in Staples.

The open shots that were made in the first half were mostly Kobe's cover! I hope he locks down someone going forward and quits the free safety role. I haven't dissected the game on replay, but my gut feeling is that Kobe's "men" or the men he switched off to probably came close to equaling his 38 points. So, he must lead the way in playing defense - if his crew sees him being lazy and leaving his man open, then why should they put out the extra effort. He is correct in that defense is the key. The "C"s are playing 1-1 defense and are locking up the non-Howard players. Lakers should do the same. Someone needs to take some charges with quicker anticipation on moving feet!!!

Pau Gasol is the best Power Forward/Center in the NBA (President Obama dixit), but he cant beat 4 bigs together (Garnett, Davis, Wallace and Perkins) That is impossible.

Key Matchups vs. Celtics:

Kobe vs R. Allen/Tony Allen
Pau vs. KG, Perkins, R. Wallace, Davis (4 bigs vs 1)

Celtics more depth, better team.

LAKERS 'TIL THA DAY I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: HalosAnt | May 26, 2010 at 08:35 AM
OOOOOOOOH WEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I WANT HALOSANT ON MY TEAM!
I GOT YOUR BACK HALO!
MAMBA24

Also, I'm kinda wondering where these Phoenix bandwagon fans were when they were losing in games 1 and 2? Oh right - crying in their closet. My bad. Posted by: longtimelakerlover | May 26, 2010 at 08:35 AM
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STOP IT PLEASE, SWEET JESUS, ROFLMFAO!!! WAAAAAAAA
MAMBA24
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"The Suns have been to the FINALS TWICE!! 1976-1993"

Yes. That's certainly something to be proud of. To the finals twice, nearly twenty years apart. So impressive.

Just correcting your Laker boy.
"Never let the facts get in the way of a good story" as I always say.
We don't buy championships here. If it wasn't for Shaq and Gasol, Kobe would have NO rings. Remember his whiny rant in PHX. "I NEED PLAYERS"
Its looking more and more like he needs a center to carry him to a title.

Pau Gasol is the best Power Forward/Center in the NBA (President Obama dixit), but he cant beat 4 bigs together (Garnett, Davis, Wallace and Perkins) That is impossible.
Posted by: Ricky | May 26, 2010 at 08:38 AM
DAMNIT ISN'T THERE ANYBODY AROUND THIS PLACE? NURSE! WILL YOU PLEASE GET SOME RESTRAINTS FOR THIS LUNATIC IMMEDIATELY!
MAMBA24

mamba24,

regarding ricky you wrote: DAMMNIT WHERE'S THE NURSE OR DOCTOR? WILL YOU PLEASE GET SOMEONE HERE FAST AND PUT THIS RAVING LUNATIC IN RESTRAINTS?

my response: don't forget the ball gag.

I know dribble penetration seems to be the focus but are we expecting Dragic and Nash to drop 40 on us. To see the same pick and roll and the same guys open for 3's is beyond me. I can understand if you have to focus on Kobe if you are the opposing team but these other guys? Come on.

The Andrew experiment is over. If you didnt know who he was, and both he and DJ were given the same chance, the stats would favor DJ. I think at this point as a Lakers fan we have to admit that Andrew isnt going to improve either on defense or be a threat in the low post.

Exactly a year ago, it was 2-2 against DEN in the WCF. 'Deja vu, all over again'.Oh well, so now it's a best of 3 series, with 2 of the games in Staples. Posted by: The Snake | May 26, 2010 at 08:37 AM
MAKE IT PLAIN SNAKE! MAKE IT PLAIN!!


I just want to see you, God, exercise a little of that omnipotence.
That's the thing that irritates me most about you. When bad stuff is going on, you just hold still and let it happen, again and again... (kind of like Pau last night on defense). Get crackin'. I expect a return on all this tithing I've been laying out.

Good Morning Everyone!

So PHX held serve. They did what they were supposed to do, and their zone is causing us some problems. It's not like we had a terrible offensive night, but the defensive stuff could have been better (especially since PHX and Kobe were putting on a clinic during the 2nd Quarter). We just can't have PHX get any more approx. 40-pt quarters. We limit that, and we win the game.

So when is game 5?

Hobbitmage:

I do remember those ridiculous comparisons. I just kinda laughed those off. I hope you're having a good start to your week so far (besides the lakers losing, that is).

Damn! just.....Damn!Posted by: Magia32 | May 26, 2010 at 08:37 AM
DAMN, DANM, DAMN,!!

Please get your facts straight.
The Suns have been to the FINALS TWICE!! 1976-1993

Posted by: PHX Bigdog | May 26, 2010 at 08:27 AM
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You Suns fans must be SO PROUD of that record!

justanothermambafan:

Wow, I did not know that you had a paragraph worth of dialogue in you. Excellent attempt and just a side note try not to use too much of "frickin' in your paragraph, think of another word next time. For the most part I will give you A for effortt, c minus for content. Hope this helps.

I refuse to speak in Spanish in fear so I carry my passport all the time

Please come back when you have your facts straight!

Posted by: 131-92 | May 26, 2010 at 08:36 AM

Oh, my bad. He still choked. And this is my board, my team. You come back when you have something that's actually worth saying.


regarding ricky you wrote: DAMMNIT WHERE'S THE NURSE OR DOCTOR? WILL YOU PLEASE GET SOMEONE HERE FAST AND PUT THIS RAVING LUNATIC IN RESTRAINTS? my response: don't forget the ball gag. Posted by: hobbitmage | May 26, 2010 at 08:42 AM
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OH SWEET JESUS!! Nurse while you're at it bring a sedative for me too. ROFLMFAO!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

DAMNIT ISN'T THERE ANYBODY AROUND THIS PLACE? NURSE! WILL YOU PLEASE GET SOME RESTRAINTS FOR THIS LUNATIC IMMEDIATELY!
MAMBA24

Posted by: MAMBA24

You're on your own. None of your Laker Land buddies want to admit they got worked by 5 players who make 1/4 of Kobe's salary combined.
They will be around if you w in Game 5

"We don't buy championships here. If it wasn't for Shaq and Gasol, Kobe would have NO rings. "

Now how the heck do you know that? Oh right. You have ESP. Extra Stupid Perception.

Not only that, my I'm no boy. I'm a girl. Get that right.

Lilpup sez: "Please get your facts straight.
The Suns have been to the FINALS TWICE!! 1976-1993"

Here are some more interesting FACTS:

THEY LOST BOTH TIMES!!! OOOHHHH for Two, baby!

The LAKERS have been there, hhhmmm let's see, THIRTY FREAKIN' TIMES!!!!!!! And have WON it FIFTEEN TIMES!!!

The LAKERS have WHOOPED the suns @zz in the Playoffs 7 of the 11 times we have met, now going on the 8th time. THAT'S A FACT!!!!

I just looked it up. Bynum makes 12.5 MILLION a year.
Jeez, did you guys overpay or what?
Someone in Laker Land tell me how that is working out.

hahahahaha, mamba24, the reencarnation of Kurt Cobain....ahahahahaha

I rarely usedd this web site anymorre becaause of how it has become so commercialized. I wated to watch the players comments after the game. i had to sit thru commercials and after that three of them had nothing but audio. But the commercials played!

The Lakers need tto add knock down shooters to the roster. The need to focus on th basics of boxing out and not being careless with the ball. How many times are we going to fumble a rebound. Phoneix is fundamentally sound. The Lakers are not. Love D fish, L walton and the "machine" but it is time to go! If you dont get in the game as a reserve then why do we need ya?
Phi Jackson contract should be $50M! Why that distraction? By the way I have noticed that some of the reporters who cover the team dont realized L Odum value to the team? Ridiculous!

"We don't buy championships here. If it wasn't for Shaq and Gasol, Kobe would have NO rings. "

Now how the heck do you know that? Oh right. You have ESP. Extra Stupid Perception.

Not only that, my I'm no boy. I'm a girl. Get that right.

Posted by: longtimelakerlover

I know it, because it's true. Has Kobe won a title without Shaw or Gasol??
I don't think so.

Ricky - you're outta line. We can all take the trash talking directed at the team, but when you cross the line into personal attacks and violent imagery, you need to step off and apologize or just plain get lost.

I live in New York City and used to be a Knicks fan until a few years ago. Now, I'm a die-hard Lakers fan. On this "zone" issue. Where's the 'complexity'? It's not like this zone defense is something new. I respect Phil Jackson's coaching ability, but in this series, (last two games) I have to question his 'ability' to implement an effective strategy against this.

As Kenny Smith (TNT commentator) said last night, one of the ways that you can crack the zone defense is is if your team has a "real" point guard with the to penetrate to the paint and then dish out to a a player at the peripheral. My per method is even more obvious. The PG brings the ball down court and stops at the top of the key. The four other Lakers either drift to the foul line, under the basket, or disperse themselves (two each) to the lower left and right corners nearest to the basket. Obviously, the Suns' defense will have no other choice to either follow their man, or collapse down near the paint in order to guard the other offensive players. Once that occurs, this 'zone' evaporates. The point guard (based upon the coach's game plan, can execute whatever strategy is applicable). Many methods to defeat a variety of "Zone Defenses" have been written. Perhaps the vaunted "Zen Master" needs a refresher course...

Hey Mamba, not forget, directly to your headdd. That is the solution. No more problems, no more pain. Seriously, ¡ adelante, no te cortes!!!!

We don't buy championships here. If it wasn't for Shaq and Gasol, Kobe would have NO rings. Remember his whiny rant in PHX. "I NEED PLAYERS" Its looking more and more like he needs a center to carry him to a title. Posted by: PHX Bigdog | May 26, 2010 at 08:40 AM
ooooooooh weeeeeeee! To the finals twice. Damn that's a record to proud of. But tell me is your team in such pathetic shape that they picked up the same "Shaq" you mentioned above - that the Lakers threw away - for your team. I mean at least when the Lakers "buy" something they buy Prime Cobe Steak and not some ground up dog food. You have to learn how to comparison shop PHX and not just buy the first thing in sight in desperation. Now if you are real good, we might let you have "Sasha The Machine" for Nash, Hill and Dragon and 2 1st round draft choices. I know that sharp eyed general manager of yours Steve Kerr, knows a bargain when he see's one.


Oh, my bad. He still choked. And this is my board, my team. You come back when you have something that's actually worth saying.
Posted by: longtimelakerlover | May 26, 2010 at 08:46 AM

LOL ... "Your board" and "your team" ... LMAO!!!

LOL ... "Your board" and "your team" ... LMAO!!!

Posted by: 131-92 | May 26, 2010 at 08:54 AM

I hope you find your ass. I think they're really important in the grand scheme of things.

Hey justa. No problem. I agree, but if i can be a "Lunatic", for sure "el mamba" can be the reencarnation of Kurt Cobain. In spain we sai "si me tocas, te toco" I imagine USA has the same "way of fight"....

But tell me is your team in such pathetic shape that they picked up the same "Shaq" you mentioned above.
MAMBA24

Because Kobe needed Shaq to win those titles. Shaq is a winner. Terry Porter didn't know how to use him. Thats why he's gone.

we might let you have "Sasha The Machine"
MAMBA24

WHO???????

Ricky - you're outta line. We can all take the trash talking directed at the team, but when you cross the line into personal attacks and violent imagery, you need to step off and apologize or just plain get lost.Posted by: justanothermambafan | May 26, 2010 at 08:53 AM
JUSTA IT'S DANGEROUS TO HUMOUR HIM. LET THE PROFESSIONALS HANDLE THIS! ROFLMAO!!

"Because Kobe needed Shaq to win those titles. Shaq is a winner. Terry Porter didn't know how to use him. Thats why he's gone."

Too bad he couldn't "help" you win titles. At least Kobe won with him.

You need to stop putting the blame on David Stern You sound like those survivalist who hordes up on guns and food based on the fear that world is coming to an end. One word of advice if you don't have anything intelligent to write besides "out fricking standing" then pay attention to you work. Be productive and stop spewing garbage to the society and trust me there is plenty out there. We are investigating the time you spend on this blog spewing unintelligent posts. Share something intelligent that we all can enjoy for a change, other than one liners..Posted by: HR | May 26, 2010 at 07:45 AM
GOD$%$#@$^& IS THIS A FREAKIN EPIDEMIC OR WHAT? MOTRE RESTRAINT! MORE SEDATIVES!

 
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