Lakers' Bynum has knee drained
Lakers center Andrew Bynum had a substantial amount of fluid drained from his right knee Monday, according to a team spokesman.
Bynum had almost 2 1/2 ounces removed, after being slowed by torn cartilage in the knee for a little more than a month, an injury that has limited his time and effectiveness on the court.
He had 10 points and six rebounds in 20 minutes in his most recent game, Saturday against Phoenix in the finale of the Western Conference finals. Early in that game, he winced when he landed after completing a seven-foot turnaround shot but he kept playing.
Undergoing the procedure was a last resort, Bynum said.
"I didn't want to," he said. "I'm the one who had been fighting it the whole time. But it just got to a point where the swelling was just staying there, kind of like that green ball over there."
Bynum pointed to a green medicine ball on a rack at the Lakers' training facility.
The Lakers' next game is Thursday against the Boston Celtics in Game 1 of the NBA Finals.
--Mike Bresnahan
Photo: Lakers center Andrew Bynum has his shot challenged by Phoenix power forward Amare Stoudemire in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals. Credit: Luis Sinco
"The Lakers' next game is Thursday against the Boston Celtics in Game 1 of the NBA Finals."
Since I've been hiding in a cave the last week, thank you for that bit of information. Deeply appreciated.
Posted by: p ang | May 31, 2010 at 04:20 PM
For the rest of his career, Bynum should have a monthly MRI exam on his knee regardless if he is hurting.
Posted by: never | May 31, 2010 at 04:28 PM
Hallelujah. Good news. I hope it helps AB17 as much as it helped KB24.
Posted by: Rick Friedman | May 31, 2010 at 04:34 PM
p ang- on mars, with your fingers stuffed in your ears. don't forget that part.
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 04:38 PM
Hey never, good to hear from you...
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 04:38 PM
12 Down, 4 to Go!!!!!
Awesome News!! Was hoping AB would take the needle and get it drained. 2.5 ounces is a hell of a lot of fluid. Dude is going to have much more mobility and explosion come Thursday. I've had my knee drained many times, it's amazing how much better you feel instantaneously. Lobs to the BEAST will be a plenty come Thursday. Oh yeah, Ron Ron will be wearing out PP as well. Boston wasn't dealing with any physicality in 08, this year is a different story. Payback is gonna be sweet.
Posted by: Mikefloss | May 31, 2010 at 04:59 PM
It worked out fine for Kobe, it should work out fine for Bynum too.
Posted by: Magic Phil | May 31, 2010 at 05:04 PM
Sung to the Tune of "How Bizarre" by OMC (One Hit Wonder 1995):
Kobe's in the backcourt, Pau Gasol's in the front
Cruisin' down the lane, knock down shot, shot, shot
Suddenly Refs' whistle blows, caught Pierce from behind
Loud voice booming, "Kobe step up to the line"
PJ preach words of comfort, Pierce just hides her eyes
Referee tweets his whistle, "Foul on Number 9?"
Not bizarre
Not bizarre, Not bizarre
Destination Beantown, as we pull in for some gas
Freshly pasted poster reveals a horror from the past
Kendrick Turtlehead and Ray Alien, Rondo KG Big Baby
Kobe speaks "payback," Pau Gasol says "Surely"
Not bizarre
Not bizarre, not bizarre
Ooh, baby (Ooh, baby)
It's making them crazy (It's making them crazy)
Everytime they look around
Everytime they look around (Everytime they look around)
Everytime they look around
Lakers' in their face
Referee' steps out and says "the fat lady has sung"
LA jumps and jives, Keltics hang their heads, their done
TV news and camera, there's choppers in the sky
PJ lights a Cigar, Kobe Series MVP, High Five
Kobe yells, "We're outta here," Ron-Ron says, "Right on"
We're making moves and starting grooves before they knew we were gone Lakers are the Champs again and headed back for LA's lights
Wanna know the rest? Hey, buy the rights...
Not bizarre
Not bizarre, Not bizarre
Ooh, baby (Ooh, baby)
It's making them crazy (It's making them crazy)
Everytime they look around
Everytime they look around (Everytime they look around)
Everytime they look around
Lakers' in their face
__________________________
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 05:04 PM
MM, For some unknown reason, the Preview mode wouldn't preview and the Post mode posted my song twice. Please remove the duplicate.
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 05:06 PM
Andrew Bynum's job.
Slow down Perkins who is averaging 5.6 pts and 6.4 rebs a game in the playoffs.
Andrew can do that with one knee tied behind his back.
Bynum's stats with bad knee.
7.2 pts - 5.7 rebs - 59% - 1.17 blks
By the way, Pau Gasol's playoff stats:
20.0 pts - 10.9 rebs - 57% - 1.88 blks
And who said he was having a bad playoffs?
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 05:07 PM
I am anticipating a WAR! This is WAR!!!
BOSTON, You want us? Here we come!!!
GO Lakers!!! Go Kobe!!!
Posted by: dice8up | May 31, 2010 at 05:08 PM
Marc B-
[applauds]
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 05:09 PM
that'll feel better...
on another note, something from DrewPauKobe on FB&G:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xog3QvczYg
Posted by: mud | May 31, 2010 at 05:09 PM
Marc B-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 05:11 PM
wow, that is a truly terrible music video. great song, but man.
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 05:12 PM
Thanks phred.
Let's Keep the Keltics Big Four "One Hit Wonders"!!!
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 05:13 PM
Okay Marc B, you are definitely in full playoff mode!
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 05:21 PM
mud- great clip. night and day in terms of aggressive movement. how close to Sasha did Dragic have to be to get hit like that? Bear in mind, this wasn't during play, this was after a change of possession and a stop of play.
sure, dumb move of Sasha, but dumb like going 46 in a 45 mph speed zone. You can't say you didn't do anything wrong, but no sane person in the world would say it was a sign of violence or anything.
KG? Great athlete, great basketball player. Dwight Howard? I don't feel bad for him. But night and day.
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 05:23 PM
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!
This is what the Lakers have waited for for weeks!!
THE FINALS ARE HERE
Andrew Bynum is going to be a new man!!
Posted by: dan the man | May 31, 2010 at 05:27 PM
This should be the Lakers mindset heading into the Finals against the Celtics
"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women!"
Posted by: Cap's Goggles | May 31, 2010 at 05:29 PM
I agree, the video is terrible; but the song is great.
iTunes has a Karaoke version, if anyone has the voice for it, I'd be willin' to fork over the $.99 for it to post a youtube version of these lyrics.
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 05:36 PM
BLOG-SYNC-THINK
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Nothing more reassuring than an instant poll that confirms just how smart Lakerholics are as fans. LOL! Nice job, Mark. As Mamba would say, “that’s what I’m talking about!” Too bad you can’t have your Celtics Blog counterpart run a parallel poll on their team so the two polls could serve as formal documentation of the virtual smack talk between the two blogs. If nothing else, you should do a post in the future comparing what happened to this poll. Don’t underestimate the power of blog karma.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | May 31, 2010 at 05:38 PM
Glad to hear Drew had the fluid drained. This was the right timing. It should last a couple of weeks (just long enough to be a force in the Finals).
Taking out that much fluid will definitely make a big difference in his mobility. The pressure of that much fluid surely was compounding the pain he was feeling from his torn meniscus.
Mobility and verticality should show marked improvement.
Perfect Timing!!!
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 05:48 PM
If this means anything......
My neighbor just had his knee drained. He has a meniscus tear as well. He said it felt great for 4-5 days, and now has stiffened up and become quite soar.
His wife has to drive him to work where he suffers all day at his desk.
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 06:06 PM
The key for the Lakers will be D Fish. If he shoots as well in the next series as in the last the Lakers will do well. Who will we not see anymore in a Laker uniform after this series? Who do you think the Lakers will sign?
Posted by: Allen | May 31, 2010 at 06:12 PM
If this means anything......
My neighbor just had his knee drained. He has a meniscus tear as well. He said it felt great for 4-5 days, and now has stiffened up and become quite soar.
His wife has to drive him to work where he suffers all day at his desk.
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 06:06 PM
Fatty,
As soon as I heard about the drainage I thought, "Why now?" Why not wait until Wednesday so he can get the full benifit of new mobility on the court during a game and not practice? We'll see.
Wes
Posted by: wesjoenixon | May 31, 2010 at 06:12 PM
PJ doesn't like our idea of baiting Perkins into a double-tech.....
“Those things, I think, should be wiped out,” Jackson said. Jackson’s logic is that the longer a player is active in the playoffs, the more he could be penalized."
I think with or without the Lakers help, Perkins does the dirty deed and gets suspended one game.
Maybe PJ likes our chances with Perkins in the line up....uhm...
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 06:17 PM
Fatty- gee, thanks for the cold shower on my bright hopes. Hey, have your neighbor give Gary Vitti a call, tell him the hopes of LakerNation depend on his well being.
No, I had some doubts about the knee drainage timing as well, but I have to believe that he had the best medical advice. or at least hope he had the right medical advice. or at least hide my fears that he had the wrong medical advice.
I guess we'll see.
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 06:21 PM
re perkins; well, i would tell him that if he was worried about technicals he should just keep his fat yap shut and his elbows to himself. I mean, nobody else who is this deep in the playoffs has seven.
Posted by: phred | May 31, 2010 at 06:23 PM
NBA GAMETIME is FILLED WITH HATERS!
Last Night, they invite Robert Parish on. Tonight Wedman. No LAKER Love!
Hambla is definitely a Kobe hater. McHale! 'Nuff Said! Brent Barry Too...
Steve Smith? Probably...
C-Webb, MOST DEFINITELY!!!
CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM ALL TO HAVE TO EAT THEIR WORDS...
VENGEANCE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD!!!
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 06:24 PM
Since This is "Memorial Day", I'll Share an Old U.S. Marine Adage that I Believe Should Become the Lakers Mantra:
"Through Revenge One Finds Forgiveness."
As a Laker Fan Over the Years, It's Gonna Take a Hell of a Lot of Revenge for Me to find forgiveness... LOL
GO LAKERS!!! ONE, TWO, THREE, DOMINATE!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 06:29 PM
A reminder to the Lakers, this is the Finals against the Celts no less, absolutely no LAYUPS, play the ball to avoid flagrant, play physical but not dirty, nobody waltzs in for a layup, make 'em earn it at the line, esp. Rondo who is not a great free thrower anyway. This is the first time I've seen Bynum play hurt, at least he is earning his mils, even 10-12 points a game good enough to offset Perkins.
GO LAKERS!!!
Posted by: CTran | May 31, 2010 at 06:33 PM
Marc B -
I find the trolls here easier to take than those guys.
Why do you keep watching them Marc? Are you a glutton for punishment?
Just teasing with you man......
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 06:34 PM
Fatty:
NO PAIN, NO GAIN!!!
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 06:38 PM
Kobe had his knee drained and a month ago and he scored 30+ in everygame, so what are you talking about Patty---Very good doctors are better than those doctors around
Goooooo Lakers
BTW who will guard KObe ....pierce, ray allen--if so, how are they score if they are preoccopied with kobe's basketball scoring skills...The whole C team stopped Lebron, Wade (not Howard).....Kevin Garnett did not even play well in the Orlando series and he guarded lost Rashad...What made you think he can take on Pau with so many moves...Pau played defense on Amare and Steve nash remember..
Posted by: md | May 31, 2010 at 06:39 PM
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
...
Posted by: Marc B | May 31, 2010 at 06:39 PM
THE BEAST AND THE WARRIOR !!!
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When the Lakers and Celtics line up for the opening tip of the 2010 NBA Finals, Andrew Bynum and Ron Artest will be the only two players on the court who didn’t play in the 2008 Finals won by Boston. I contend these two players are going to end up being a major part of the reason why the 2010 Lakers will be able to do what the 2008 Lakers couldn’t – win an NBA championship against the Celtics.
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The insertion of Bynum and Artest into the Lakers starting lineup immediately adds over 100 pounds of solid muscle and physicality that the 2008 Lakers did not have. In reality, it transforms the Lakers from a finesse team without a defensive stopper at small forward or shot blocking force at center to a defensive juggernaut with shut down defensive small forward and intimidating physical center.
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More than just adding size and muscle, Andrew and Ron allow the Lakers to play a more physical and tougher style of play than the Lakers were able to play in the 2008 Finals, where the Celtics were able to intimidate Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom and hassle and wrestle Kobe Bryant into a volume scorer. This time around the matchups favor the Lakers and the bullies may find themselves being bullied.
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The biggest impact that Drew can have is to set a very physical tone right from the start so that the Lakers can get their inside game going and allow Pau to let the game come to him. If draining the knee works as well as it did with Kobe, Drew can really help jumpstart the Lakers inside-out game. The Celtics were able to shut down our inside game in 2o08. We need to turn that around in 2010.
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Pau’s recent play really scares me. I’m rooting for him to remember how KG punked him in the 20o8
Finals and get angry and ready to play a physical game. If he plays as weak and soft as he did in the close out game against the Suns, Phil should pull him and put in Drew. I still have not yet heard a good reason why Phil didn’t replace Pau with Drew in the Suns game. That almost cost the game.
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Ron’s tough defense on Paul Pierce is going to change the dynamic of the 2010 series much as James Posey’s tough defense on Kobe did in 2008. Thanks to free agency, the Lakers now have a defensive stopper for Paul Pierce while the Celtics lost their Kobe stopper when James Posey left as a free agent. That turnaround is going to result in the Lakers winning the championship and Kobe Finals MVP.
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TOM
Posted by: LakerTom | May 31, 2010 at 06:41 PM
Hopefully it'll help. I'm not sure about comparing Kobe's situation... you can't really compare any of his injuries and how they affect him, to anyone else. Dude is not human that way.
Posted by: dave m | May 31, 2010 at 07:06 PM
As D. Fisher (a future Calif. Mayor, Senator or Gov.) said, "its the Finals losses that stick with you, you can not forget them."
That's very true, and so this is the revenge I want.
I want our personal 'Count of Monte Cristo', Kobe, to dish out to them, what we got in 2008. That's all, easy enough for Kobe and the Lakers to do so.
That would be the greatest payback or revenge, that they could live with. Remembering the loss of the finals to the hated Lakers in 2010. The Celtics last Finals appearance for many years to come.
Yes, that would be nice.
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 07:08 PM
Laker Tom
I definitely see the Celtics trying to intimidate Gasol. Like you, I was surprised to see him play timid after a few Suns blocks.
But if the Celtics want to rough him up and send Pau to the line like Howard, they will pay a price with a near 80% free thrower. They can only do so much to hurt him and not pay a price.
Posted by: Fatty | May 31, 2010 at 07:17 PM
LakerTom:
Bravo! Two excellent posts on the same day. I was thinking out load the same thing in game 6 when Pau allowed Amare to push him around on offense and either fumble the ball away or threw up his signature's weenie shots! I don't know what was the situation of Bynum at the time but seems it's prudent to put Bynum back when Pau was struggling mightily. It was not his night! Heck it was not his series since he was kinda disappear in the 4th QTR. After all these since since 2008 Finals, I'm still not convince that Pau can play the rough & Tumble brand of basketball which Celtics employ with excellent efficiency.
Go Lakers!
Posted by: Wallace | May 31, 2010 at 07:26 PM
Unlikely as it may seem, it could be DFish who might draw that final tech on Perkins. Remember those offensive fouls that Derek drew from Amar'e for illegal screens?
The possible scenario is:
- DFish chases Rey Allen through various screens,
- as Perkins often does--he sticks out his knee/elbow or gives a hip check on DFish,
- Derek 'sells' the foul effectively to the officials and offensive foul is called,
- Perkins loses his cool and protests,
- technical is charged on Perkins.
Posted by: The Snake | May 31, 2010 at 07:28 PM
Hey LakerTom . . .
Blog think-sync? I posted this earlier. . .
I love it when we are in tune with each other!
Mike
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"DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS" . . .
This saying has been around longer than any of us; "Defense Wins Championships." And as much as I love to watch skillful, streamed-line, NBA teams race up and down the court, I have to admit this saying is true for the most part.
In the last decade we have seen teams like the Suns & Mavs fail to win a championship even though they had the talent to do so. Teams like the Warriors could score but not even come close to winning. The great Showtime Lakers were a great fastbreak, scoring team . . . but built on their defense; thus their championships.
So, with defense being the key word and trait, I have to believe that the Lakers enter the 2010 Finals in good standing.
In 2008 Finals lost by Lakers (and well-chronicled by our dear MM in recent thread), games 2 and 4 were lost due to lack of defense by Lakers. That is a HUGE swing of two games.
Here is the simply-stated but extremely signficant comparisons between 2008 and 2010 regarding defense...
--In 2008, the Celtics had Posey to match-up with Kobe,,, 2010 offers Tony Allen ~ a significant downgrade for Boston.
--In 2008, the Lakers had Radmonivic/Walton assigned to Pierce,,, 2010 offers Ron Artest ~ a signficant upgrade for Lakers.
--In 2008, the Lakers had Pau at Center,,, 2010 offers Andrew Bynum ~ a significant upgrade for the Lakers.
Those three changes are VERY SIGNIFICANT and I believe will prove to be the difference in the Lakers winning this series.
Posted by: LakerMike | May 31, 2010 at 07:49 PM
I had my knee drained once every 2 weeks when I played, plus cortisone injections each time. The draining works for a while, but is always tied into how much strain is on the cartilage. I now have no cartilage, but that's been fixed in modern medicine (just not me since I am old - LOL.) I would suspect knees get drained a lot more than we hear about, even now.
2.5 oz is nothing - I had 8-10 oz each time out, so AB should be "okay" - it is hard to play on a busted knee unless they numb it down, like they did back-in-the-day.......
Posted by: NuggetsCountry | May 31, 2010 at 08:04 PM
IF I WERE A TROLL ON CELTIC'S BLOG . . .
I would crawl in and scribble on the Team Whiteboard...
"You have no idea what is coming! Laker's DEFENSE is something you won't recognize until it is too late."
Mike
Posted by: LakerMike | May 31, 2010 at 08:07 PM
Keep talking, we've been underestimated all year. Given no respect by you or anyone. This "old" team has dominated defensively in the post-season. OKC? Utah? PHO? They play no defense!!! Gasol will not go 11-14 in any game in this series.
But, look who I'm talking to......................just keep talking - we are completely, totally and literally unafraid of the mighty LA lakers.
Posted by: Giant Green Bald-Headed Lunatic | May 31, 2010 at 08:17 PM
MM,
Thanks for the update. This strikes me as great news. Hope this works as well for Drew as it did for Kobe.
Posted by: Mark G | May 31, 2010 at 08:45 PM
Oops,
I guess I meant thanks Mike B.
Posted by: Mark G | May 31, 2010 at 08:46 PM
NuggetsCounty - 8-10oz??? Dude, your knee must have looked like a cantelope. That's crazy. What did they attach the syringe to, a bud tall?
Posted by: dave m | May 31, 2010 at 09:32 PM
Excellent!! Now that Bynum has had his knee drained he can go to the Playboy Mansion and hoist some bunnies !!!
You know, at some level I am still mad at Bynum for not showing up in the 2008 finals. He often does not seemed as determined as someone on a team should be.
I really hope that Bynum takes this series to vindicate himself. I hope he shows dedication, pride, and hustle.
GOOOoooOOOOOO BYNUM !!
GOOOoooOOOOOO LAKERS !!
Posted by: JohnnyP | June 01, 2010 at 05:19 AM
dave m:
lol It did look awful. Large grapefruit is about right. Mostly just dragged it around ala Willis Reed before getting it drained.
Posted by: NuggetsCountry | June 01, 2010 at 07:50 AM
Giant Green Bald-Headed Lunatic,
"look who I'm talking to......................just keep talking - we are completely, totally and literally unafraid of the mighty LA lakers."
Oh, you will be. You... will... be.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | June 01, 2010 at 08:05 AM
We need Bynum to knock Rondo, Nate and Tony Allen on their arses when they drive to the basket...
As for Perkins and the next technical thingy, I dont think we need to go that route. They are the ones HOPING our bigs cannot play or whatever, glad we are banged up and this and that. But in reality, nobody is, at this time of the year everyone has ailments..Part of the game. We beat them with all we have and all that they have. Thats the way it should be. But no doubt they will try and THUG their way to a next trophy, similarly to the style Denver plays -- but their D is simply more seasoned. Our coaches will be better prepared to prepare us because we played them and that style before. We have to eek out those ugly but very winnable games they play..Four of those 89-87 scored games is fine with me as long as we get the W!!
Posted by: lakersrydeordie | June 01, 2010 at 11:19 AM