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Caught in the Web: Reactions to Lakers' 104-99 Game 1 victory over Utah Jazz

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Game stories

--The Times' Mike Bresnahan explains why the Lakers' 104-99 Game 1 victory Sunday over the Utah Jazz didn't exactly entail an inspiring performance.

--NBA.com's Bryan Chu details how Kobe Bryant's health has improved.

--The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding highlights Bryant's fourth-quarter effort.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's David Lassen details the Lakers' late-game defensive stops.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Ross Siler explains all that went wrong in Utah's effort against the Lakers.

--The Daily News' Elliott Teaford notes how the Lakers have often allowed teams to come back after a strong start.

Notebooks

--The Times' Bresnahan reports that Andrew Bynum will play through his latest knee injury, because surgery to repair a slight tear in the anterior horn of cartilage in his right knee would sideline him for four to six weeks.

--The Times' Broderick Turner explains why Utah Coach Jerry Sloan wants the Jazz to toughen up.

--The Times' Turner documents Derek Fisher's improvement.

--The Orange County Register's Janis Carr reports that Ron Artest was offended by Deron Williams' suggestion that he's quicker than Artest.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's Lassen highlights Fisher's contributions.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Steve Luhm believes Bryant played Sunday like the league MVP.

--The Daily News' Jill Painter details how Wesley Matthews tried guarding Bryant.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Siler details Utah's poor start.

--The Daily News' Teaford reports that reserve guard Sasha Vujacic could play at some point in the Jazz series.

Columns

--ESPN.com's J.A. Adande says the Lakers' bench is faltering.

--The Times' Bill Plaschke credits Lamar Odom's fourth-quarter effort.

--The Times' T.J. Simers criticizes the Lakers' underachieving performance against Utah.

--The Times' Mark Heisler details the Lakers' familiarity with Utah.

--The Daily News' Vincent Bonsignore focuses on the Lakers' poor bench.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's Matt Calkins says the Lakers reserves played so poorly, they should feel fortunate they play in the same facility as the Clippers.

--The Orange County Register's Ding argues that the Lakers need to have better teamwork while Bynum recovers from his injuries.

--NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper explains how Sloan and Lakers Coach Phil Jackson are complete opposites.

--Sports Illustrated's Frank Hughes argues that Bryant is back in full form.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Kurt Kragthorpe argues that C.J. Miles' missed shot late in the game proved to be a turning point.

--Fox Sports' Mark Kriegel explains why Utah has such a tough time against the Lakers.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Arash Markazi argues that Utah lacks toughness.

--ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin details the Kobe face, and how it might be needed this postseason.

--The Orange County Register's Jeff Miller wasn't impressed with the Lakers' Game 1 victory.

--The Salt Lake Tribune's Gordon Monson believes that toughness is the main ingredient Utah needs to overcome its lack of talent compared with the Lakers.

--The Riverside Press-Enterprise's Gregg Patton argues that the Lakers can't take Utah for granted, even if it's warranted for fans and the media to do so.

--Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears shares his skepticism on Bynum's decision to delay surgery.

Blogs

--ESPN Los Angeles' Andy and Brian Kamenetzky talk about the Lakers' up-and-down performance, with analysis and video.

--Lakers.com's Mike Trudell credits Bryant and Pau Gasol as the key contributors to the win.

--ProBasketballTalk's Kurt Helin explains why the Lakers' length will continue posing problems for the Jazz.

--Hoopsworld's Eric Pincus has a detailed breakdown of Game 1.

--Forum Blue and Gold's Darius has seen the Lakers play up-and-down one too many times.

--Silver Screen and Roll's Dexter Fishmore believes there's no use trying to analyze the Lakers' Game 1 victory.

Other Lakers links

--In an interview with the L.A. Times Magazine's Tom Murray, we learn what irritates Bryant the most. It's not questions about his injuries or about LeBron James winning the league MVP award. It's dog feces.

--I also did an a few interviews Sunday night talking about the Lakers. That included one with Fox Sports Radio's Sean Farham and Pooh Richardson (audio file below)

Fox Sports Radio


I also appeared The Point After on WBSU-89.1, based out of Brockport, NY.

WBSU-89.1



Tweet of the Day: "You can't give up that putback to Lamar Odom. You can't let Kobe Bryant drive all the way down the lane for layup." -- tribjazz (Salt Lake Tribune's Utah Jazz beat reporter Ross Siler)

Reader Comment of the Day: "When the Lakers are firing on all cylinders, there's not a team in the league that can stop them. The problem is, they fire on all cylinders so infrequently that we all fear a wasted season. The truth is, the Lakers are their own worst adversary." -- Tim-4-Show

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, who scored 13 of his 31 points in the fourth quarter, scores on a driving layup down the lane against Utah forwards Carlos Boozer, left, and Paul Millsap with 22 seconds left in the game Sunday. Credit: Wally Skalij/Los Angeles Times.

 
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Lakers can sweep the Jazz if they remember without AK47 , Jazz have no shot blocking.

Kobe did the right thing by driving the basket.

No reason for any Lakers, especially Artest to shoot jumpers.

@STEVE LUHM - Hours after it was announced he finished third in the 2010 Most Valuable Player voting behind LeBron James and Kevin Durant, Bryant certainly played like an MVP. He scored 31 points on 12-for-19 shooting and almost single-handedly stopped the Jazz from stealing the opening game in this best-of-seven series. What did Jazz point guard Deron Williams think was the difference in the game? "Kobe hit some unbelievable shots," he said. "That's about it.
Jazz coach Jerry Sloan agreed, saying, "Kobe, obviously, finished us off down the stretch."
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!

OH, OH, OH GIVE IT UP FOR TIM-4-SHOW
WHY YOU SAY, CAUSE HE'S THE READER COMMENT OF THE DAY
YEAH TIM-4-SHOW, YEAH TIM-4-SHOW, YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KUDO'S MY BROTHER!
Mamba24

That is what I like about Kobe, time and again he proves himself on the court WHERE and WHEN it really matters.

THIS IS SIMPLY OUTFREAKIN STANDING:
Dave McMenamin covers the Lakers for ESPNLosAngeles
We got to see The Kobe Face on Sunday. You know the one: lower jaw jutting out and pointed like the "V for Vendetta" mask, nostrils flaring like dual exhaust pipes, eyes peering ahead with the same focus as a parent searching the crowd of backpacks at after-school pickup looking for their kid. At times this season, Kobe Bryant and the Lakers have looked nothing like the championship team they were last year, but seeing that face again and the moment that spurred it was a reminder that things haven't changed all that much. Before we could see The Kobe Face, The Kobe Body would have to go back in. Bryant said it was tough just watching the lead collapse at the start of the fourth before adding, "But if it really got tough for me, I'd just check myself in." Lakers coach Phil Jackson did the subbing for him, throwing Bryant back in the game with 7:32 remaining. Bryant took it from there, scoring 13 points in the fourth quarter, including 11 of the Lakers' final 15 points, to win the game 104-99. It was toward the end of Bryant's rescue mission when The Kobe Face came out with 1:20 remaining in the game, making its 2010 postseason debut. He showed it after he hit a pull-up jumper from the foul line to put the Lakers up by three after the Jazz turned that eight-point deficit into a four-point lead just minutes before. "I thought he felt the need to put it on his shoulders," said Jackson. With the team on his shoulders and the scowl on his face, Bryant continued to "exert his next phase" of offense that Jackson said the team had been waiting for before Bryant went on to score 32 points in Game 6 in Oklahoma City. It's not quite as tough when you have a momentum manufacturer like Bryant, a guy who is quite simply, the best clutch player alive today. Despite what people thought against the Thunder, when his injured right knee seemed to be slowing him down so much that his "clutchness" was becoming an irrelevant asset, his body is improving and his killer instinct is as healthy as ever. "It's a lot better," Bryant said about his knee on Sunday. "I was able to move around. It was very encouraging for me to be able to move around and do what I wanted to do." The Lakers aren't just after a series-opening win against the Jazz, but a championship at the end of June. A couple of the teams out East -- the Cleveland Cavaliers and Orlando Magic in particular -- have looked like they have it together a little bit more than L.A. at this point. But while the Cavs can claim the MVP in James and the Magic have the Defensive Player of the Year in Dwight Howard, neither team has a player like Bryant who is at his best when a game, or a title, is on the line. The Lakers will need The Kobe Face to show up again at some point in these playoffs. Sunday was as good a time as any to make sure the face still fits.


That is what I like about Kobe, time and again he proves himself on the court WHERE and WHEN it really matters. Posted by: Jeanette | May 03, 2010 at 09:44 AM
AMEN SISTER, AMEN!

BEWARE THE FACE.


Oh NBA - you in trouuuubbbbbblllllllle.... HAHAHAHAHA!

For as much as might be going wrong with the Lakers on this road to repeat - Bynum's right knee, Sasha's high ankle sprain, and lapses by the bench mob - there is a LOT to like about the things that are currently going right - Kobe and Fish's return to form, Pau's consistency, Ron's defensive presence, Drew's willingness and ability to gut it out, and Lamar's flashes in crunch time. On balance, you have to be pretty happy with the way things are going these days.

I don't like Kobe sitting out so long especially now that he says he feels great now. I don't like it Lakers lost the lead during that time frame. Not only that, Phil ran the risk of getting Kobe out of rhythm. You keep doing that by keeping Kobe out for so long kobe can get cold. I would suggest for Kobe to see the game through the players on the floors eye. He should keep engaged as if he's out there and make some visualizations of him out there like a ghost and imagining himself like 6th person just shooting and driving to the hoop without worrying about the actual play that's going on. The mind has to be prepared and hopefully can trick the player into sustaining that rhythm. WORTH TRYING IMO>

On balance, you have to be pretty happy with the way things are going these days. Posted by: jefe101 | May 03, 2010 at 10:05 AM
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I am Jefe101, believe me I'm tinkled pink.
Mamba24
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@Justa, That sure in hell is not The Face That Launched a Thousand Ships!

@Justa, That sure in hell is not The Face That Launched a Thousand Ships!

If you were facing that face, wouldn't you be trying to get away too?

"Oh crap! Kobe has "The Face On"! Is the ship ready to go?...cuz I'm gettin' outta here before the Mamba can strike."

Tim-4, they might not be firing on all of them yet, but you can see that they've been getting a tune up the last couple of games. Sometimes it takes a couple of runs down the track to run just right.

JR

@Justa, That sure in hell is not The Face That Launched a Thousand Ships! If you were facing that face, wouldn't you be trying to get away too? "Oh crap! Kobe has "The Face On"! Is the ship ready to go?...cuz I'm gettin' outta here before the Mamba can strike."
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LMAO!! NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!

DON’T MAKE THRILLAH MAD, YOU WON’T LIKE HIM WHEN HE’S MAD
@ JANIS CARR, OCR EGISTER.COM
Phil Jackson was worried about Ron Artest coming into the conference semifinals against Utah because the Jazz doesn’t have a dominant scorer. There’s no Kevin Durant or LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony to focus all his energies for 48 minutes. Jackson might not have to worry any longer. Artest now has Deron Williams in his sight. Throughout the first half, Artest found himself on Williams and did an admirable job of keeping the point guard off balance during those moments. Williams, though, did manage to score 17 of his 24 points in the first half and plans on using his quickness more against Artest in the ensuing games. “I’m going to try to exploit that match-up,” Williams said. Artest was taken aback by Williams’ comments. Obviously he’s quicker, he’s a point guard,” Artest said. “… What are you going to do? I’ve been guarding the best player my whole career. I don’t know, that’s the first time anyone ever talked to me like that. I don’t know what to do, I don’t know what to think.”Artest came up with an idea. He said Williams and the Jazz should focus on stopping Kobe Bryant, who scored a game-high 31 points and had four assists. “They need to guard Kobe. Don’t worry about exploiting me, they need to guard Kobe,” Artest said. “Worry about stopping one of the greatest players who ever played. It’s OK. “I don’t know why he wants to pick on me. I didn’t do anything to him. All I did was play defense. That’s all I do.” Artest’s mood soured a bit more when told that his son, Ron III, was in the hallway getting autographs from Jazz players after the game. “From who, Deron Williams? That’s one of his favorite players,” he said.

Who is the best player in L.A. right now????

Who is the real MVP the last 3 years??????

I Know the answer, and you, too.

to mambo16.

I Know who is the best laker player right now. D.J. MBENGA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're gonna beat the Jazz, even SLoan and the Jazz know that, but style points matter now. It tweaks confidence in us and fear in future opponents.

Start SWAGGerin' wagon!

It's the natural next step, it even rhymes.


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THE LAKERS SWAGGER - BANDWAGON
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(01) VMAN - OWNER - Start SWAGGerin' wagon! It's the natural next step, it even rhymes.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - Yes! I got a lil glide in my stride
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T.J.SIMERS: "WORST SPORT WRITER OF THE CENTURY" _ BANDWAGON
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(01) MAMBA24 - OWNER - FRAK T.J.SIMERS - pure slime.
(02) WALLACE - DRIVER - I just can't stand this Simers guy. He's a moron and a biggest troll there is. He seems to have a personal vendetta against the Lakers and couldn't even said one nice thing about the win last night. Give me a break you moron Simers! He's definitely didn't get enough hugs when he grew up. I know he's still mad at Kobe for ignoring him. Let's order some "brain transplant" for him since obviously he just didn't get it after all these years. Shame on LAT to provide him with this troll to hide and use as a bases to snipe at our beloved Lake
(03) JUSTANOTHER MAMBAFAN -RIDING SHOTGUN - add me to the Simers is a D-Bag bandwagon ok? The guy is a hater, pure and simple. If he ever spoke intelligently and in an unbiased way against Kobe or the Lakers I think hell would be frozen over and a star would be rising in the east.
(04) SEGEBOY/SHERIFF -
(05) JON K. UNDERCOVER AGENT SUPRREME –
(06) 2PHATT - Sign me up for the Bandwagon, T.J is CERTIFIED IDIOT
(07) LAKERSTRYDEORDIE - People at Staples and fans in general are allowed to yell MVP all night long if they so choose!! If they feel Kobe is their Laker MVP, or MVP period, they are allowed to feel whatever and express as such. If people don't like it, they can go to HELL -- that means Simers too! Str8t like that.
(08) EDWIN GUECO - Is TJ a distant cousin of ET? I think that is what escarpia was trying to point out in the reference German metaphisis.
(09) JEANETTE – TRUE BELIEVER - O yeah, , kindly put me on the T. J. Simmers bandwagon. I stopped reading his garbage.
(10) ZAIRAMATERASU - TJ Simers (as a writer: I avoid to judge the person, because I do not know him and I would never allow myself to cross that personal line) is the equivalent of a leech that sucks off blood from a living entity trying to enlarge himself out from others' resources. He just follows in the worst way the ESPN bandwagon, trying to sound "cool" and just sounding a plain fool instead. Kobe Bryant has proven him wrong in so many occasions, he probably learnt how to number things out of the times his liver burnt out feeling the aching pain of humiliation from him. Nobody in Laker Nation considers you anything more than an annoying breeze in the eye, Simers. That annoying thing that occasionally bothers you, but cannot really stop our eyes from seeing the truth. And the truth is: KOBE REIGNS. LAKERS WILL REIGN. AND YOU WILL BE TIPPED AS A BITTER LOSER, once more. Get acquainted with reality, man. It'd be better for you.
(11) JON K - If the L.A. Times doesn't fire T.J. Simers, all of Laker Nation, lead by me, should kick down the doors of the L.A. Times building, find Simers cowering in a cubicle, hobtie him, scourge him, and then kick him off onto a leaky raft into the Pacific Ocean. I had enough years ago. It offends me that the L.A. Times continues to pay this worthless pile of scum. The LITERALLY have a troll on salary and give him a forum. Who's running this newspaper after all? It's just nuts.

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WE RIDE OR DIE WITH FISH - BANDWAGON
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(01) FEARLESSS – OWNER - Fish, Gasol, and Bynum have shown up every game. Kobe has been a little inconsistent, but has been working very, very hard. Artest has been here defensively.The weakest links have been the bench and LO. Does anyone still think we could be here w/Farmar? Fish has been on point all series long. I ride or die with Fish. That should be a new bandwagon.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – 0.4 say no more. Fish We believe
(03) JON K – UNDERCOVER AGENT SUPREME - Please put me on the Win or Die With Fish Bandwagon. There's a reason he's co-team captain.
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN
(05) JEANETTE - Also, the Derek Fisher bandwagon. I love Derek, people lay off him. How soon can you forget!!!

MORE BYNUM BOOTLICKERS…
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KOBE BYRANT… "I think he's doing a great job, just playing through injury," Kobe Bryant said. "Sometimes you've got to do that. I think it's maturity for a young player to start trying to figure out how to play around that, to find different things to be effective despite the injury. That's how you grow."
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PHIL JACKSON… "He gave us a really good effort," Jackson said. "You can tell he's limited in some of the things he’s doing, but i thought he gave us a good effort."
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One of the great disappointments in life is holding out your hand and making an offer to somebody with whom you have had differences, only to have that person turn around and make a fool of you for offering the gesture. Frankly, I am not surprised. You can teach an old dog new tricks, lead a horse to water, but you can never hide or cloak the bitter spitefulness insincere people emit whenever they allow their true self to be seen.
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No Bynum supporter made any comments to justify the nasty vitriol that led a certain poster to jump all over LakerMike. No Bynum supporter said anything about Drew needing more touches to lead another poster to chortle on about how easy it was to put the Bynum Bootlickers in their place.
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Andrew showed great heart in yesterday’s game, posting 8 points and grabbing 10 boards while playing in pain. His coach, his teammates, and most genuine Lakers fans understood and appreciated that. Yet these posters continue with their uncalled for clueless and classless remarks rather than appreciating the young man for his contributions. I guess they do not realize how silly, foolish, and insecure their comments reveal them to be.
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TOM

MORE BYNUM BOOTLICKERS…
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KOBE BYRANT… "I think he's doing a great job, just playing through injury," Kobe Bryant said. "Sometimes you've got to do that. I think it's maturity for a young player to start trying to figure out how to play around that, to find different things to be effective despite the injury. That's how you grow."
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PHIL JACKSON… "He gave us a really good effort," Jackson said. "You can tell he's limited in some of the things he’s doing, but i thought he gave us a good effort."
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One of the great disappointments in life is holding out your hand and making an offer to somebody with whom you have had differences, only to have that person turn around and make a fool of you for offering the gesture. Frankly, I am not surprised. You can teach an old dog new tricks, lead a horse to water, but you can never hide or cloak the bitter spitefulness insincere people emit whenever they allow their true self to be seen.
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No Bynum supporter made any comments to justify the nasty vitriol that led a certain poster to jump all over LakerMike. No Bynum supporter said anything about Drew needing more touches to lead another poster to chortle on about how easy it was to put the Bynum Bootlickers in their place.
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Andrew showed great heart in yesterday’s game, posting 8 points and grabbing 10 boards while playing in pain. His coach, his teammates, and most genuine Lakers fans understood and appreciated that. Yet these posters continue with their uncalled for clueless and classless remarks rather than appreciating the young man for his contributions. I guess they do not realize how silly, foolish, and insecure their comments reveal them to be.
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TOM

So, I rewatched the whole game, and before I start to explain what it felt like, let me briefly repost my "Ode to Simers" (not really) as my "applicant form to the Simers Bandwagon:

"TJ Simers (as a writer: I avoid to judge the person, because I do not know him and I would never allow myself to cross that personal line) is the equivalent of a leech that sucks off blood from a living entity trying to enlarge himself out from others' resources.
He just follows in the worst way the ESPN bandwagon, trying to sound "cool" and just sounding a plain fool instead.

Kobe Bryant has proven him wrong in so many occasions, he probably learnt how to number things out of the times his liver burnt out feeling the aching pain of humiliation from him.

Nobody in Laker Nation considers you anything more than an annoying breeze in the eye, Simers.

That annoying thing that occasionally bothers you, but cannot really stop our eyes from seeing the truth.

And the truth is:
KOBE REIGNS.
LAKERS WILL REIGN.
AND YOU WILL BE TIPPED AS A BITTER LOSER, once more.

Get acquainted with reality, man.
It'd be better for you."

>>>>>End of repost<<<<<<

Right.

Now that those words have been put out of my system, I can express gratefullness to all of you being in chat yesterday (ehi!!! From the iPhone the chat was actually... purple & gold? That was cool, but also exremely uneasy to catch in the darkness ;)), because at every break of any Alicia Keys's song I would open it and realize that I should have not to worry about results, cos Lakers were there, and Jazz couldn't hold us a candle.

It was really nice.
And useful.

What was comforting me was that you all expressed to be so bored, I assumed the game couldn't really be wasted out.

Of course it took me enough to end the gig, reach the car, connect the portable pc and actually watch the game through web tv to get some shaking from the Lakers.

Yep: the reason for the end of the Third quarter and the Fourth one were tight was that Lakers were waiting for me to put some excitement in the game (kidding ;)).

The game to me developed in a predictable way.
After an intense series for both teams, things were approached slower than maybe some could expect, just to test out the opponent.

Lakers are so advantaged with the Jazz that honestly I was expecting the bench to be put in even sooner (this come from teh rewatching).

Sadly bench kids decided to be a no-show yesterday.

We have a diesel bench: they take thrice the time the starters do to react to changing "enemies".

We cannot really condone that; I personally was really disappointed in them and didn't like what I learnt through Lamar and Pau, namely that there was no interaction nor speaking among them during the game.

WTH???

Take a journey together, go fishing around, take a Harley and go to Big Sur... whatever you need to in your spare day, but BOND it up and learn how to be reciprocal on court!!

Which is not even something you have to "learn": it's just something you have to remember how to, if any.

I cannot really be worried by Jazz anyway; and our players weren't at all either.

I never really thought we could lose.

Never ever.

They are the best team we could have faced in the second round.

Our troubles are always internal ones: the injuries (Drew, tu quoque?) and the lazyness in working out our dynamic play always and independently from the people we face, independently from the five pieces that we put on the floor, and from the moment of the game we are in (I know... I am an utopist there... I know Lakers will never have a full on game... especially against someone like the Jazz...).

Out from that, I don't see a way Utah can be not even remotedly a threat.

I can't.

Pass me some "worrying googles", because without those there's not a chance in the world I will be slightly intimidated by them.

Which is not really a good way to go on; not even for our players.
The stamina and the adrehnaline gotta be pumped up or otherwise Round Three will see us in trouble.

I was realy enchanted by Pau and Kobe's game.

Kobe, you may imagine, is just serenading my sportu soul with anything he does; Pau is gaining back all of his status in my book (and you all know where I do rank him).

It's comforting to see all this; but I don't buy the "almost healthy" status of Kobe.

He's far from being recovering, this has to be enlightened.

The way he jumps, runs and turns over himself isn't as smooth as his words would suggest.

That's why we can expect him to have his seat several minutes out from every game (especially against these Jazz): he has to get way more strenght and composure back so that he will be okay for Round Three and the Finals.

To allow Kobe reaching the best shape he can (I hope he gest up to be 80% of his strenght: if otehrs will be 100%, it will be enough to beat anyone), it's absolutely fundamental that the bench steps up, and that Lamar starts to play a WHOLE game, not merely bites of it (even though when he plays, the game turns from A to Z for us, in a wonderful way).

I'm worried about Drew and RonRon physical state, but I am very confident when I come to watch their mimic during games and when they sit: they look sharp, intensively focused, and really not worried.

Then let me finish with a huge THANK YOU to Derek.

No matter what lots of people have said and are keeping saying, this man is the glue of our team, and always delivers when it's precious time (one shot time I'd say) to.

Go on Lakers.

You were able to make me smile even under a rainy concert.

Talk about wonderful stuff ;)

Have all a great day, Laker Fam :)

Been busy at work and at home to be a regular contributor. However, this is what I think of the bandwagons on this page:

TJ Simers is a Cylon!
Laker Swagger is BACK!
and lastly....
Fish is always healthy and good for the soul. Great basis for diet AND for Laker championships!

justanothermambafan,

"BEWARE THE FACE."

You are indeed correct, sir.

Beware the Face.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

1. I hope Sasha is back soon.

2. I hope Ron Artest never takes another three-pointer throughout the entire playoffs. What is he right now? 3-37? Ron, attack the rim! No more threes, okay?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

PREACH JON K, TELL IT BROTHER!!

uh, JON K, I hate to break it to you but JustAnotherMambaFan is a Mam not a Sir. But She's still head of the House of Mamba & the Mamba Clan. So Everythings changed but everything remains the same.

Mamba24,

"I hate to break it to you but JustAnotherMambaFan is a Maam not a Sir."

Really?

Huh.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

It's official.

DFish and T.J. Simers are the same person.

Ban him forever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWweqP_ZWbg

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

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(01) VMAN - OWNER - Start SWAGGerin' wagon! It's the natural next step, it even rhymes.
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - Yes! I got a lil glide in my stride
(03) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN –RIDING SHOT GUN
(04) #4 – SECURITY - Laker Swagger is BACK!

I love Ron Artest!

His comment about DWilliams' comment that he's planning to exploit his quickness to score against Ron:

“They need to guard Kobe. Don’t worry about exploiting me, they need to guard Kobe,” Artest said. “Worry about stopping one of the greatest players who ever played. It’s OK. “I don’t know why he wants to pick on me. I didn’t do anything to him. All I did was play defense. That’s all I do.”

@J24, YOU KNOW YOU RIGHT!

PREACH JON K. PREACH!
Keep doing what you doing brother cause nobody does it better!
Mamba24

So this mediocre Laker team will probably win the West and even have a chance to win it all as nobody in the East seems better than just " Good".
Posted by: DFish | May 03, 2010 at 11:02 AM
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Let's see if I understand this correctly.

DFish predicts the "underachieving" Lakers will probably win the West.
He says that the Lakers may win it all because none of the teams in the East are better than just "Good".

Ok, so let's say the Lakers do go on to win it all.
So the Lakers become the champions of the NBA because none of the other teams are better than just good.
Does that mean "this mediocre Laker team" is better than just good?
Or are they still "this mediocre Laker team"?

Hmmm, let me try this again.
So, "this mediocre Laker team" becomes champions of the NBA because the rest of the league is worse than mediocre?

Ok, I give up. I just am not following the logic here, if there is any.


ARROGANT or POMPOUS?

The Lakers are questing to win the NBA 2010 championship. Not the title of "best of all time" (sorry DFISH, but YOU deserve that). Just champions. 16 wins. PERIOD.

But let me see if I have this right...
--The Lakers win 1st round series 4-2 against a worthy opponent who impressed ALL NBA reporters.
--The Lakers win 2nd round, game 1 with late-game, shut-down defense (an ever increasing theme for them).
--Andrew Bynum plays in pain with a nagging injury that most certainly will require off-season surgery.

And yet...
--Frequent posts over the past 24 hours include all sorts of "woulda-coulda-shoulda" assertions about how lame and pathetic the Laker's play has been, including personal attacks on specific players who contributed quality efforts to this latest win.

I've read many a blogger here condemn the Lakers for arrogance. But my goodness! Remove the pompous log from your own eye before you pick at that speck in there's!

(Somewhere in the green hills of North Carolina, Michael Jordan smiles and heaves a sigh of relief that he never had to play against the ridiculous measurements of the blogosphere.)

ARROGANT or POMPOUS?

The Lakers are questing to win the NBA 2010 championship. Not the title of "best of all time" (sorry DFISH, but YOU deserve that). Just champions. 16 wins. PERIOD.

But let me see if I have this right...
--The Lakers win 1st round series 4-2 against a worthy opponent who impressed ALL NBA reporters.
--The Lakers win 2nd round, game 1 with late-game, shut-down defense (an ever increasing theme for them).
--Andrew Bynum plays in pain with a nagging injury that most certainly will require off-season surgery.

And yet...
--Frequent posts over the past 24 hours include all sorts of "woulda-coulda-shoulda" assertions about how lame and pathetic the Laker's play has been, including personal attacks on specific players who contributed quality efforts to this latest win.

I've read many a blogger here condemn the Lakers for arrogance. But my goodness! Remove the pompous log from your own eye before you pick at that speck in there's!

(Somewhere in the green hills of North Carolina, Michael Jordan smiles and heaves a sigh of relief that he never had to play against the ridiculous measurements of the blogosphere.)

I have to agree with TJ Simers. Obviously he has been reading my posts.

Underachieving is certainly the word. A team with so much talent should play up to that level more than once every ten or fifteen games or so.

Game 5 against the Thunder should be more of the norm, not the exception. They're good enough to do it. But they don't seem to care enough to play like that very often.

All Laker fans should be disappointed by this. If not, they're in denial.

And rather than recycle the same old "hater" and "troll" language, why not instead tell us why you're NOT disappointed by the Lakers' failure to play up to their talent level very often? You bring so much energy to the game as a fan. Don't you feel disrespected when the Lakers don't bring one-tenth as much? Why not?

Ok, I give up. I just am not following the logic here, if there is any. Posted by: Art - FL Lakers Fan | May 03, 2010 at 11:25 AM
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That my friend Art - Fl Lakers Fan is the fatal flaw. Never equate DFish & logic. It does not compute.
Mamba24

MM...
why did my last post go up twice? I only hit once!

Mike

Lakers 4-1 over Jazz. Lakers 4-0 over Suns or Spurs.
As I've said before, that 1st round was going to be the toughest due to matchups, and from now on rounds 2 and 3 will be shorter.
As I've seen in the past, players can indeed heal during the playoffs and we've seen that happen with Kobe and Odom and Artest. Fish seemed to have found the fountain of youth at least for now but as we saw last season just an extra day of rest makes a big difference with these older bodies.
Now, the Lakers s/d dispose of the Jazz and not let this get to become a 4-2 or 4-3 series because I have a feeling Suns-Spurs are going to be a 7 gamer. Lakers can sure use the extra rest time if they can finish ahead and just heal while Phoenix and S.A. are still bashing it out.
Suns will be a more favorable matchup due to Bynum's injury. We can compensate for Bynum versus Jazz and Suns because they're not real tall teams but we'll need his height versus Spurs due to Duncan/McDyess and the drives of Tony Parker into the lane.
Luck seems to be with the Lakers and we can sure use some this season.
Next season, we definitely need a younger PG to replace Fish since I don't think UPS is the answer and Farmar is as sure as gone. Moving Fish to the bench means a bench next year of Fish, Shannon, Walton, Odom and Powell/Mbenga which still means there isn't a go to guy in offense for the bench.

Mamba,

I am a Fish supporter. I mean Derek the player of course.
He's been stepping up in the playoffs, as we have seen so many times before.
He still has a few more big, timely shots to give us this year.

I dislike Simers so much that in one of the first vids MM posted when he took over, I remember complaining that Simers was in the background the whole time while I was trying to listen to PJ - I remember commenting about it.

I have not read a Simers article in about 3 yrs now (certainly more than 2).

Since someone posted his words in the prior thread, I'll bite the bait a little here -

Yesterday the MVP chant was louder than I've heard it in a LONG TIME. It wasn't coincidence that LBJ was just awarded the MVP. Let's be honest, it's tough to argue that LBJ didn't deserve it this season or even last season, BUT Simers misses the entire point of the MVP chant, when, where, and why it started.

Those chants began at Staples.
They began because writers like Simers were giving the award to relatively lousy players.
Year after year, you could count on Kobe getting screwed out of another MVP.

The more the media disrespects the Lakers and Kobe in specific, the louder the chants become.

Simers doesn't understand because he's been part of the problem this entire time.

Look, I don't like it, but I can't really say that someone like LBJ doesn't deserve to be a 2 time MVP. I do have a problem with a guy like Nash being a 2 timer (and never being to the finals, and not even being hall of fame material) - I do have a problem with Dirk seeing as Kobe outscored his whole team that year in a game - though at least he made the finals once. KG got it when it was a pitty vote. Can't gripe about Duncan too much, but one of those should have gone to Kidd...

So by my count, Kobe was slighted out of about 3 or 4 MVP awards, and now that LBJ is on the scene, there's no way for the sports writers to make up for their ills.

All we can do is chant and let everyone know who the people's MVP truly is.

It's effectively our way of giving the middle finger to guys like Simers.

Judging from his words, he at least saw the gesture - he's just too stupid to understand that the finger is directed at him and his worthless opinions.

GOD@##%$%^%%$### I warned you people. Not to feed the Trolls but nOOOOOOOOO, Oh they are so cuddly! Now Look we have a Lunatic Tapeworm Troll Escapia who is in an infinite loop about touching Bobo's. Then DFish says the Lakers might win. Now Jim joyce, Yes Jim Joyce even has the hutzpah to drag his lame @zz back. Now Stop it! STOP IT I SAY. These Trolls are dangerous. They carry all forms of mindwarping disease. Before you know it you will be sucked into their nether world. AVOID THESE TROLLS AT ALL COST!!! oh the humanity

So by my count, Kobe was slighted out of about 3 or 4 MVP awards, and now that LBJ is on the scene, there's no way for the sports writers to make up for their ills.All we can do is chant and let everyone know who the people's MVP truly is.
It's effectively our way of giving the middle finger to guys like Simers. Judging from his words, he at least saw the gesture - he's just too stupid to understand that the finger is directed at him and his worthless opinions. Posted by: Tim-4-Show | May 03, 2010 at 11:35 AM
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I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT I LOVE IT!
OUT FREAKIN STANDING & THEN SOME!

@ART - FL LAKERS FAN - SHO YOU RIGHT BRO!
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WE RIDE OR DIE WITH FISH - BANDWAGON
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(01) FEARLESSS – OWNER - Fish, Gasol, and Bynum have shown up every game. Kobe has been a little inconsistent, but has been working very, very hard. Artest has been here defensively.The weakest links have been the bench and LO. Does anyone still think we could be here w/Farmar? Fish has been on point all series long. I ride or die with Fish. That should be a new bandwagon.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – 0.4 say no more. Fish We believe
(03) JON K – UNDERCOVER AGENT SUPREME - Please put me on the Win or Die With Fish Bandwagon. There's a reason he's co-team captain.
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN
(05) JEANETTE - Also, the Derek Fisher bandwagon. I love Derek, people lay off him. How soon can you forget!!!
(06) ART – FL LAKERS FAN - am a Fish supporter. I mean Derek the player of course.
He's been stepping up in the playoffs, as we have seen so many times before.
He still has a few more big, timely shots to give us this year.

Simers just doesn't understand that the fans were just showing they disagreed with the chosen MVP winner.
Also, the fans consider Kobe the Lakers MVP.
So the fans show support for a player it seems at times almost wills them to win.
I just don't see the problem here.
The most popular player in the world gets chants of MVP from his home fans and Simers criticizes that?

Mamba24, that new bandwagon "we ride or die with Fish".

It is like we got into a ship wrecked at the middle of Gulf Coast and there are dolphins around us come to rescue because there are no Coast Guards at sight. Therefore, we ride and die with them as they swim over the oily ocean until we reach the shore. Once we reach the shore, we trade the dolphin to Seaworld for a fortune. I'd like to join this bandwagon it's a win-win proposition.

It's official.

DFish and T.J. Simers are the same person.

Ban him forever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWweqP_ZWbg

Posted by: Jon K. | May 03, 2010 at 11:07 AM

HAHAHHAAHHAAAAA....TRUE!

Hey LAKERinBC how you been? No doubt there will be a couple of changes next year, but i don't see nothing but smooth sailing ahead! Like JustAnotherMambafan said I almost see a sweep against the jazz. But I'll say Lakers in 5.

The most popular player in the world gets chants of MVP from his home fans and Simers criticizes that? Posted by: Art - FL Lakers Fan | May 03, 2010 at 11:49 AM
PREACH ART, PREACH BRO!

Tim-4-Show deserves back-to-back COTD!

Rock on Tim!!!!

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WE RIDE OR DIE WITH FISH - BANDWAGON
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(01) FEARLESSS – OWNER - Fish, Gasol, and Bynum have shown up every game. Kobe has been a little inconsistent, but has been working very, very hard. Artest has been here defensively.The weakest links have been the bench and LO. Does anyone still think we could be here w/Farmar? Fish has been on point all series long. I ride or die with Fish. That should be a new bandwagon.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – 0.4 say no more. Fish We believe
(03) JON K – UNDERCOVER AGENT SUPREME - Please put me on the Win or Die With Fish Bandwagon. There's a reason he's co-team captain.
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN
(05) JEANETTE - Also, the Derek Fisher bandwagon. I love Derek, people lay off him. How soon can you forget!!!
(06) ART – FL LAKERS FAN - am a Fish supporter. I mean Derek the player of course.
He's been stepping up in the playoffs, as we have seen so many times before.
He still has a few more big, timely shots to give us this year.
(07) EDWIN GUECO - I'd like to join this bandwagon it's a win-win proposition

KOBE'S GOT THE STARE, JON K.S GOT THE FIRE, I FEEL A ANOTHER TITLE!!

Tim-4-Show deserves back-to-back COTD! Rock on Tim!!!!
Posted by: ChicNstu | May 03, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I SECOND THAT! Aint none better!

every arena chants mvp for the best player, what's so different about doing it at staples?

I mean, we all know Kobe is the best player in the world, OBVIOUSLY we're going to chant MVP for him.

One has to recognize that living up to perfection is very hard to do, even with a rested and healthy team. Do I wish that our record had been 73-9, sure. But we have been very hard hit with significant injuries that have played a MAJOR part in the 57-25 record. However, we have moved past the first round and are 1-0 in the second. At this point in the season, that's pretty close to perfection! As always, the Laker Voice of Reason (DJ), ha, ha!

@LakerMike and Tim-4-Show, OUTSTANDING POSTS SIRS.....nuff said. GRRRRRRR!!!!! to the haters and trolls!!!

TELL IT DJ!

Does it really matter whether the win was by 5 points or 15 points? At the end of the season, when the Lakers hoist another championship banner into the glorious rafters of Staples, will anyone care about the lead that slipped away?

The playoffs are about winning. Grinding it out. Finding a way. Winning. That's it. Nothing more.

Our boys are winning. Time to stop whining.

Go Lake Show!

jimjoyce,

>>>And rather than recycle the same old "hater" and "troll" language, why not
>>>instead tell us why you're NOT disappointed by the Lakers' failure to play up
>>>to their talent level very often?

While it's very noble to wish for your team to play at the highest level they're capable of every night, it's just not realistic. No team can do that. Not the Showtime Lakers, not MJ's Bulls, not the Kobe/Shaq Lakers, not the every-other-year Spurs. Nobody.

I will gladly take two more "mediocre" championships in a row. What matters most to me is getting to 16 wins in the playoffs. Not who wins MVP. Not who gets the most love from the press. Not whether a Utah team that won 74% of their games since mid January was able to keep a game close. Not who has the best bench on any particular night. Not which team has the best point guard. Just 16 wins in a row. That's all that matters.

LOL @ Mang Edwin, you are on roll today...


Love Andrew tryin' to play through the pain BUT, if it's something that could be helped with rest or a operational tweak, it would be great to get that done NOW.

When we face SA and whoever comes out of the EAST, we'll need a functioning A Bomb in the arsenal.

Meanwhile: IT's SWAGGER time!

GO Lakers

LTLF: I appreciate your response, but no one is suggesting that they play to that level "every night."

Just more often than once every ten or fifteen games. And, at the very least, that they play as if they really cared more often than not.

Yes, winning championships is nice, but don't you feel disrespected when the Lakers show so much less enthusiasm and concern for the game than you do? I sure do.

And wouldn't you agree that the Bulls and the 80s Lakers (and the Spurs of the last decade, the 80s Celtics, the late 80s Pistons, etc etc) brought it a LOT more often than today's Lakers or the Shaq/Kobe teams?

That's what's disappointing. It seems so little to ask.

jimjoyce,

"why not instead tell us why you're NOT disappointed by the Lakers' failure to play up to their talent level very often?"

Injuries.

Practically everyone on this team is injured, and we still won the Western Conference and we're still going to WIN the Western Conference.

If LeZero had one of the injuries that practically every Laker has, he'd be constantly crying about it and using it as an excuse to not play.

Our team is tough.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

jimjoyce,

I hear what you're saying, but I think it's a bit myopic. You feel "disrespected" when the Lakers don't play as well as YOU expect them to? Are you SURE they feel less enthusiasm and concern for the game? How, exactly, do you know that? Because the team I was watching yesterday wanted to win. That's ALL they wanted.

It's not always going to be perfect. Or pretty. Or exceptional. They will lose some games during this run. This is the playoffs. There aren't any "mediocre" teams left (well... at least not in the Western Conference). The Jazz are a damn good team with a damn good coach. It won't be easy.

But it will be satisfying. I don't feel disrespected by ANY win in the post-season.

Go Lake Show!

Just a note from today's LA Times article (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-web-20100504,0,1287520.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fmostviewed+%28L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories%29):

"Fisher averaged 27.2 minutes during the regular season and 7.5 points.

He's averaging 33.1 minutes in the playoffs. He's averaging 10.1 points on 44.8% shooting; 45.2% from three-point range."

Fisher's shooting is reflecting his career long trend of doing better once the playoffs start:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fishede01.html

So while not a superstar (a la Deron, Chris Paul, Brandon Roy, etc), he is doing in the playoffs what is asked of him - hit an open shot with regularity and hit a 3-pointer with regularity (and roughly 45% on shots and 3-pt attempts is solid).

I'm happy he's on the Lakers.

And wouldn't you agree that the Bulls and the 80s Lakers (and the Spurs of the last decade, the 80s Celtics, the late 80s Pistons, etc etc) brought it a LOT more often than today's Lakers or the Shaq/Kobe teams? That's what's disappointing. It seems so little to ask. Posted by: jimjoyce | May 03, 2010 at 12:39 PM

HELL NO!

The Lakers are underachievers?

Some people get upset because the Lakers don't smother their opponent and win by 15 every game they play.
Remember those 5 title Lakers teams of the 80's with Magic? Did they win all their games, especially playoff games, by a wide margin? Does anyone even remember?
How about the Shaq/Kobe teams, did they win every game in a blowout on their way to 3 consecutive titles?
How about those years the Spurs won 4 championships, did they win close games?
Did any of those teams even win every game?
Were all those Lakers and Spurs teams mediocre and underachieving also?
Was last years Laker team mediocre and underachieving?

Every team, from time to time, can get hot. Sometimes a player or team just gets in a zone, gets on a roll, and that team wins.
It doesn't mean the team that lost that game is an underachieving team, they just got beat that day.
Anyone who has played sports (and even most of those who haven't) knows what I am talking about.
Some days you are just unbeatable and some days you can't beat anyone.
Look at the greatest stars in any sport. Some days they are just average.
That's why they play the games.
As they say in football, on any given Sunday...
I don't care if the Lakers win every game by 1 or by 10.
All that's remembered is the W.

MAMBA24… Please add me to the Fish Do or Die Bandwagon…NEVER underestimate the heart of a champion.
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TOM

MAMBA24… Please add me to the Fish Do or Die Bandwagon…NEVER underestimate the heart of a champion.
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TOM

{Lakers Secret Agent Jon K. Reporting From DEEP In The Bowels Of LeZero's Hometown Of Akron, Ohio Within A Cavernous, Dark, Dank Club Designed For Thugs, Drug Dealers, Scumbags And Prostitutes... You Know, Average Akron Citizens}

So, I was getting ready the club for opening yesterday and it was just me and my pal, Johnnie, the bouncer who had a gun put in his face a few weeks ago...

Anyhow, as we were alone cleaning, the game was on during fourth quarter and as the minutes ticked down, Johnnie paused and said, "I don't care what anyone says. He's [Kobe] still the best player in basketball. No one closes like that. I don't think anyone has ever closed like that."

Even in Darkness, there are those who can still see the Light.

LeBron has a bruised elbow and goes out of his way to show everyone, "Hey! Look at me! I'm tough! I can play through pain!"

{Yawn}

Kobe has played an entire season, night in;night out, through pain and he does NOTHING to advertise it or make people feel sorry for him. Instead he just plays his game, and that game includes taking it over in the fouth quarter when we really need him to.

It includes demanding victory when others would just hope for it.

And people criticize him for that.

They must have no heart.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

One more time people!


One has to recognize that living up to perfection is very hard to do, even with a rested and healthy team. Do I wish that our record had been 73-9, sure. But we have been very hard hit with significant injuries that have played a MAJOR part in the 57-25 record. However, we have moved past the first round and are 1-0 in the second. At this point in the season, that's pretty close to perfection! As always, the Laker Voice of Reason (DJ), ha, ha!

"Yesterday don't matter if it's gone," so says Mick and Keith! Ya gotta take it from those guys and all that matters now is today and the tomorrows!

jimjoyce/The Outlaw,

"You feel "disrespected" when the Lakers don't play as well as YOU expect them to?"

Yeah, man. That's pretty twisted thinking.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Jim Joyce,

In all fairness to the team and its lack of chemistry, there are many players on this squad who have either just returned from injury, are playing injured, or are out due to injury. That's 9 players in and out of the rotation.

1.Kobe- multiple injuries
2.Ron- plantar fascitis
3.Drew- knee and achilles
4.Lamar- shoulder
5.Pau- hamstring
6.Shannon- thumb
7.DJ-retina
8.Luke- back
9.Sasha- ankle

I'm not including farmar to this list.. After all he did play 82games..lol.
Including all of 3 seconds in 1 game.lol

Our PG was the only player who managed to stay healthy all season.

If this squad was 100%, the level of play would be much better than what we are seeing now.

Hey Laker Tom, Mamba 24, Jon K and our other TRUE Laker fans,question, why do non-Laker fans show up on the Blog? I can't imagine why I would waste my time on, say the Portland Blog, no offense to Portland.

ChicNstu,

That is really ironic that Derek (takes all the flak) is basically the only truly healthy Laker. I will admit that I see him coming off the bench next year to help bring stability to it, but he's playing much better now, when it counts.

To TJ,

TJ, I'm not disappointed that my Lakers are not playing up the their potential because they are winning. No, they are not blowing every opponent out of the gym by 20 points, but they are winning. I get to sit back and watch basketball on a Sunday afternoon instead of mowing the lawn because there is some suspense to each game.

Not only are they winning, they are winning in the toughest conference. If they had finished in the 6th spot I would have been disappointed in their performance, but they didn't. If they had lost to the Thunder or if they lose to the Jazz, I would be disappointed. Right now they are winning. It's simple as that.

There are those that think I should demand perfection and be a miserable old guy, and make everyone else miserable too, when I don't get it from a basketball team. I've got enough consternation in my life without allowing one of my outlets for entertainment cause more. That would be like expecting every movie I see to be a best picture candidate. Come on TJ, I know you like the 3 stooges now and again.

Yes, there are those that will say that I don't know anything about the NBA. Frankly, I don't care if I never become the next Greg Popovich. As long as I can watch the 4th quarter with my grandson, wave my arms, and yell and shout like Kobe/Phil/Fish/the Zebras can actually hear me. All the while knowing that there's gonna be another game day after tomorrow.

Sincerely,
JR

DJ.

They don't call Fisher "Bulldog" for nothin..lol.

I'm all for him staying with the team as a player or assistant coach.


I'm a Fish fan, if you're not, you're not a fan of all that really matters in sport.

There are better guards in other systems, but he's OUR guard and he's givin' his all. That's all there is.

I can see complaints and criticism for our team. That's fine. But the question is, to what end are these complaints?

TJ Simers is a person that I personally don't trust to give me news on the Lakers. Its within his right to be critical. But that journalistic license can only go so far.

Its not that I don't want to hear criticism, its that he and others with his same mentality think its alright to deliver a zinger. A zinger (saying something to get a negative reaction) is the equivalent of a defensive flop to draw a charge. It unfortunately, part of the game. But I believe, as a flop cheapens the competition, the 'zinger' mentality cheapens journalism and reduces it to sensationalism once only seen in gossip magazines.

It creates distust not only from the reader, but from the interviewee. In turn, that can give us less access to the truth.

Just my humble, laymen's opinion.

The bar is certainly being set high for these Lakers. Winning a championship isn't good enough, they have to blow out every team along the way. Never mind that it is unrealistic and that it took Magic and Kareem's Lakers more than four games in most series they played. Or that MJ's bulls relied on a lot of MJ game 6 and 7 magic to get their titles.


Look, the teams the Lakers are playing all quality NBA playoff teams with 50+ wins this season. They have talent and they have pride and none of them will go down easily. It's all about battling through these games and getting Ws. It ain't gonna be four straight 20 point wins.
and on to the next round.

All this stuff about "underacheiving" for a group with two straight Finals appearances, for the defending NBA champs with a strong chance to repeat - it is just crap.


This ain't supposed to be easy. The other teams are trying to win a title too you know. It isn't the Washington Generals.

OPEN LETTER TO MR. SIMERS...

Nice to see you show up every now and then to offer your comments from the peanut gallery. Your squeaky, munchkin-like drivel may not get the grease, but at least you have that son-in-law bagger to lord over. I can't tell you how impressed we all are of your command of father-in-law-hood. Always good to have that to fall back on when the writing gig comes to a merciful end.

You will have to excuse all of us mediocre-applauding, MVP-chanting, diehard Laker fans who actually ENJOY watching a GAME. What a novel thought, eh? Fun with a game. And you can rest assured that our love of the game is not in danger of being diluted by your drivel anymore than our loyalty to the Lakers.

I am not sure why it is hard for you to fathom how we could be so supportive of a team who is the best in its conference. The organization with more wins, regular season or playoffs, than any other organization. And give us a little time and we will be adding the "most championships of any organization" to our winning laurels. Perhaps, from the sounds of your constant complaints about your family life, you just don't appreciate value.

By the way, even if the Lakers lose ~ we support them. They could be baggers, but they would be OUR baggers. You go on and pose as if you run with the winners, position yourself for interviews with the victors, and unfurl those caustic opinions from your fingertips like witchypoo's zaps of fire.

We have HEART. We have COURAGE. WE are LAKER FANS!

Mike

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WE RIDE OR DIE WITH FISH - BANDWAGON
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(01) FEARLESSS – OWNER - Fish, Gasol, and Bynum have shown up every game. Kobe has been a little inconsistent, but has been working very, very hard. Artest has been here defensively.The weakest links have been the bench and LO. Does anyone still think we could be here w/Farmar? Fish has been on point all series long. I ride or die with Fish. That should be a new bandwagon.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – 0.4 say no more. Fish We believe
(03) JON K – UNDERCOVER AGENT SUPREME - Please put me on the Win or Die With Fish Bandwagon. There's a reason he's co-team captain.
(04) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN - RIDING SHOTGUN
(05) JEANETTE - Also, the Derek Fisher bandwagon. I love Derek, people lay off him. How soon can you forget!!!
(06) ART – FL LAKERS FAN - am a Fish supporter. I mean Derek the player of course.
He's been stepping up in the playoffs, as we have seen so many times before.
He still has a few more big, timely shots to give us this year.
(07) EDWIN GUECO - I'd like to join this bandwagon it's a win-win proposition
(08) LAKERTOM -Please add me to the Fish Do or Die Bandwagon…NEVER underestimate the heart of a champion.


"Look, I don't like it, but I can't really say that someone like LBJ doesn't deserve to be a 2 time MVP. I do have a problem with a guy like Nash being a 2 timer (and never being to the finals, and not even being hall of fame material) - I do have a problem with Dirk seeing as Kobe outscored his whole team that year in a game - though at least he made the finals once. KG got it when it was a pitty vote. Can't gripe about Duncan too much, but one of those should have gone to Kidd...

So by my count, Kobe was slighted out of about 3 or 4 MVP awards, and now that LBJ is on the scene, there's no way for the sports writers to make up for their ills."

Someone could just as easily say that the one MVP award DID win should have gone to Chris Paul. There are always people that disagree with who deserves the award which is why there is never a unanimous vote.

Kobe has definitely put himself in the running for MVP almost every year of his career but you can't blame voter bias for him only receiving it once. He had Shaq for his first 6-7 years, then he was on bad teams for a couple years and players on bad teams never win, no matter what they do individually.

Nash's stats were underwhelming as far as MVP voting goes but he made a huge impact on his team and no one else really stood out from the pack. Other players may have lacked Kobe's staying power at the top but each year, there have been a small handful of guys matching him statistically and that's why he only got the one MVP award.

jimjoyce

>>>And wouldn't you agree that the Bulls and the 80s Lakers (and the Spurs of
>>>the last decade, the 80s Celtics, the late 80s Pistons, etc etc) brought it a LOT
>>>more often than today's Lakers or the Shaq/Kobe teams?

Most of them. The Shaq/Kobe teams did show some spunk for stretches though. That 15-1 playoff run was pretty impressive. And the Lakers did even show it at times this season. Hard to complain about a 23-4 start. But they had some injuries and STILL have some injuries. If Bynum was 100% healthy, maybe he makes those 3 shots at the start of the 4th. If Artest doesn't have an injured hand, maybe he makes 40% of his 3's like he did at the start of the season.

Without the injuries, I could definitely imagine the Lakers capable of playing at the level you desire (and as I said, they DID play that well at the start of the season). But with so many of their top players nicked, they just aren't CAPABLE of playing at peak level all game night in and night out.

>>>Remember those 5 title Lakers teams of the 80's with Magic? Did they win all
>>>their games, especially playoff games, by a wide margin? Does anyone even
>>>remember?

Actually, I not only remember the memorial day massacre (34 point loss to the Celtics in 1985), but I also remember the Lakers losing to a bad Clipper team several times. And I remember the Lakers being swept out of the finals when both Magic and BScott got groin injuries.

Teams playing with injuries can't always play at a peak level.

LTLF,

Not too long along in the Finals the Sixers (AI) beat us game one, then we proceeded to SWEEP!

DJ,

>>>why do non-Laker fans show up on the Blog? I can't imagine why I would
>>>waste my time on, say the Portland Blog, no offense to Portland.

It's very simple.

The Lakers are still playing.

And their teams are not.

Or in some cases, the Lakers have just trounced their team, or are just about to trounce their team, or knocked their team out of the playoffs the last couple of years. Their season is over, so they go where they know the action still is.

We Laker fans are the privileged few. Our team went to the finals 6 of the last 10 years and won the championship 4 of those times. It's pretty rare that the Lakers have their season ended early by some upstart team (some small props to the Suns teams that beat the Lakers at their nadir twice).

TOO BAD THE LAKERS ARE SO PATHETIC...

For all those complaining that the Lakers just aren’t winning games big enough, which is argued as evidence they just aren’t putting their “all” into their games, let me present the following.

Over the first 27 games of the regular season this year that preceded that ugly showing on Christmas day against the Cavs, here’s how “pathetic” the Lakers played during that time span.

--Opening night 7-point squeaker against the Mighty Clippers!
--Two, measly 3-point wins against the eventual 8th playoff seed OKC (one required OT!)
--One win – One loss against lottery-bound HOUSTON
--One “luckiest-shot-in-my-life” game winner by Kobe versus MIAMI (at home, no less!)
--Thumped by DALLAS
--Thumped by DENVER
--Three other games with a winning margin of ten points or less (versus ATL, NY, CHI)

Their record after those 27 games? 23 WINS ~ 4 LOSSES! I wonder how much complaining was going on way back then too? Something is very, VERY wrong when 23-4 doesn’t meet your standards. Sheesh!

Mike

LakerMike,

Are you a pastor?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

SWAGGER TIME tonight!

GO Loud, GO LAKERS! U feelin' it Laker Nation?


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