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Lakers Roundtable: L.A. Times reporters discuss Lakers' struggles, team meeting and Western Conference race

We bring you the second edition of Lakers roundtable, where The Times' Mike Bresnahan, Broderick Turner and I discuss the Lakers' latest struggles, the team meeting, the tightening Western Conference race and why my knockout championship at a basketball camp in sixth grade parallels the Lakers' current situation. Brez, BT and I bring you this coverage, despite numerous obstacles, including custodians closing up the Staples Center media work room, obstructive objects thrown by colleagues and eating nearly expired potato chips with dip.

--Mark Medina

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PAU GASOL I BELIEVE IN YOU – BANDWAGON
http://www.spike.com/video/journey-dont-stop/2794656
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(01) JEANETTE – OWNER - Can we all send our positive energy and love towards PAU? Can't hate on that guy. We need him to repeat.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – The strongest tree in the forest is an oak, yet a hurricane will blow it down
Yet the thin willow will bend in the wind and rise again. Pau I believe in you


Marky Mark,

Thanks for all your hard work.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

The Lakers need to stop worrying about "hunger" and start embracing their inner sadist.

I'm serious. Time to start channelling a little shadow self.

They should even stop thinking Championship and take their minds to the moment with the attitude "We're the motherfricken Lakers! The Lakers! Who the heck do you think you are! How dare you challenge us? We're the Lakers! Time to inflict punishment!"

We're the Lakers! We have a God-given RIGHT to arrogant indignation!

Seriously, we're going to let the Raptors (THE RAPTORS!) and their red dinosaur mascot come and talk smack to us in OUR HOUSE? Have they lost their fricken minds?

Just for common decency, Phil should put in DJ Mbenga and tell him to start punching people in the throat. Ridiculous.

People aren't even scared of Artest anymore! Artest! The craziest guy in the NBA! Why? He's been spending too much time being a good citizen on Twitter and not enough time getting into the heads of opposing players with the thought, "You know, he COULD snap at any moment and gouge out my eyes. That COULD happen. Better pass the ball."

Phil's the MASTER at mind games. Well, we've given up playing them this year (so far).

I am a firm believer that victory is acheived more through psychology than physicality because the mind leads the body. Zen Master, get to work.

I suggest a little group meditation, followed by the team getting in a line and one by one punching a bag with everything they've got until they can barely breathe anymore. A little aggression and focus training.

The problem here isn't a matter of knowledge. It's a matter of focus and aggression.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Marky Mark, Thanks for all your hard work.
Posted by: Jon K. | March 11, 2010 at 08

I second that. Thanks for all you do sir!
Mamba24(Larry)

from foxsports:

snippet1: "The recent Laker games I've broken down show that the rotations are both done improperly -- which can mean not at all -- or without any consistent effort or vision. To give help effectively, everyone has to be a step ahead of what's happening and rotate over to the ball early. Against Orlando, the Lakers were just awful at rotating to the rim before Dwight Howard could slip a high ball screen. Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom were guilty of arriving late or not at all a few times. And when someone did show up, Howard was allowed to get his arms above his shoulders and finish with an and-one."

snippet2: "One thing about the Lakers is (Coach) Phil (Jackson) usually prefers to have his big man who is guarding the screener staying back in rebound position rather than show on most ball screens. This leaves the Laker who's guarding the ballhandler on an island. If he goes under the screen, most NBA guards can hit that shot before the guard -- usually Derek Fisher -- can recover. Even when Orlando was setting the screen really high and out of shooting range, (Pau) Gasol or whoever was defending the screener was so far back that Jameer Nelson was able to turn the corner, get into the lane and find shooters."

snippet3: "Yeah, Fisher doesn't stay in front of the really quick guys like he used to even when playing straight up," Coach A said, "and (reserve Jordan) Farmar looked really confused about how to play Nelson the other day. Nelson just blew past him twice. He (Farmar) didn't seem to know if he was supposed to force sideline-baseline, like most teams do, or middle."

snippet4: "One issue they seem to have with Artest on one side and Kobe on the other is the level of help," Coach A said. "Artest has been great at taking the challenge of trying to shut down his guy. Without being in their strategy meetings, I don't know if he's been told not to help off of the guys he's guarding, but lately he hasn't been there to help against dribble penetration and dribble penetration, as we've mentioned, is an issue with the Laker point guards. So, while he's almost hugging the guy he's been assigned to stop, the opposing guards have really wide splits to drive through."

And Bryant?

"Kobe can be the direct opposite ... he often neglects the guy he's guarding and over-helps," Coach A said. "For example, the big 3-pointer that Matt Barnes hit late in the game on Sunday happened when Bryant came over to help against Nelson, I think it was, although Fisher already had received help from one of his bigs. Kobe completely left Barnes without really needing to -- sort of playing free safety like he often does -- and he was too late to prevent a clean look at a three."

snippet5: "The ball movement, which can be an issue with Kobe even when no one is challenging him, was non-existent after that. Kobe did go off in the fourth quarter, but that's a tough way for a team to make a living. The next day, I read some quotes from Gasol about lack of movement and ball reversal and he's right."

So, we're back to the old concerns about Bryant taking over and his playmates standing around while the defense digs in, right?

"That pretty much can define how the Lakers will go," Coach B said. "If Kobe is moving the ball and taking shots within the flow of the offense, the Lakers are tough to handle. And when everyone is involved to a certain degree on offense, getting shots, scoring points ... their effort on defense tends to increase.


my response: I like the break down. Unfortunately, he doesn't mention how
Artest, D-Fish & others couldn't buy a shot.

Like I said before all these teams know they can't beat the Lakers in a straight up way. So they push, hack, pull jerseys and do all the thug like things to knock the Lakers off balance. The Lakers need to match that intensity by giving some of that back. One way to start doing that is to let Ron of the leash and let him go out and play his game.

Can I get a "Stop giving Ron Ron his meds" band wagon??

{An Assessment Of "The Weirdness" And How It Drives Men To Madness In The Form Of Chicken Littleitis}

As many of you know, I work as a bartender/bouncer in a rough inner city bar where at any given time approximately 1/3 of our denizens wear their pants around their thighs with the butts hanging out.

As my favorite gangster said to me recently, "I like it when they do that because it they want to fight, I'll just push them over," but I digress...

Anyhow, every single day people urinate all over the floor in at least one of our two bathrooms. Every day, to the point where sometimes there is almost a half an inch of urine coats the floor.

Now every day I work, I will mop that floor at least one time--some days as many as three times--to clean up that mess, but it doesn't matter. People continue to urinate on the floor despite the presence of clean and perfectly functioning toilets and urinals (which I also have to scrub on a daily basis).

After about a year of this, you'd think I'd be used to it. I'm not. EVERY SINGLE TIME I walk into the bathroom and there is urine all over the floor, before I can even think I'm struck by the emotion of shock and disbelief. There's no curtailing it.

Every time I mop, I'm filled with the emotion of disgust and anger.

It's just the way it is. Why? Because I would never do that. It's incomprehensible to me.

I think that instinctual feeling of anger and disgust is what a lot of Lakers fans feel when they experience "The Weirdness" and a lack of effort from our team.

Listen, I'm a really competitive person. I played my heart out in sports. Played for a state Championship in soccer. Was All-League both on offense and defense in football (also playing special teams--I literally never left the field in a game). Ran track for the state Championship team running both sprints, as well as shotput and discus. I also possess a black belt in multiple martial arts.

I work hard. I graduated Summa Cum Laude from UCLA. I've ran multiple companies.

And now I've come to a point where I'm cleaning up gangster urine on a daily basis in Akron, Ohio.

Now, I could react to my situation with kind of passive-aggressive laziness, but I don't. I work hard. If something needs to be done, I do it and if there is a problem, I address it and I address it quickly. I do the best I can without excuses.

I think this is what we expect from our players.

In this economy, a lot of us are doing jobs that may not be ideal for us. A lot of us are doing work that is tedious and may not reflect our best skills, but we continue to work hard and do our best because that's who we are.

And then we watch our team play in front of thousands of cheering fans, and they don't play their hearts out. They allow "The Weirdness"--which is ultimately composed of petty ego and emotional issues--inhibit their decision-making, their focus, and their aggression and we freak out.

It's much like walking into a restroom and seeing that someone has purposefully urinated on the floor. The first instinctual thought is, "ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME?!?!?"

And the only coping mechanism that seems to tide the anger is running to your L.A. Times Lakers Blog and blasting out irrational rants about how the sky is falling.

For some reason, I think if our players (Kobe excepted) had to clean up gangster urine daily for a week while being attacked by awful loud music and rude, ignorant people who don't tip, they might find that its not quite so hard to put forth a little more effort on the court.

Personally, I forgive my team for being human and not always living up to their potential. I have faith in my team and that faith is more pleasant than chicken littleitis; however, I can understand the rage even if I don't engage in it.

We just expect our team to give their best and, really, all things considered, we're really not asking anything unreasonable.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon K,

you wrote: I suggest a little group meditation, followed by the team getting in a line and one by one punching a bag with everything they've got until they can barely breathe anymore. A little aggression and focus training.

my response: I'd prefer kicks. We have a lot of hand injuries. Perhaps we
should also force them not to sleep with their wives/gf's.

To quote Eddie Murphy: Lack of **&^%% makes you brave!

The Lakers need to stop worrying about "hunger" and start embracing their inner sadist.Posted by: Jon K. | March 11, 2010 at 08:52 AM

ROFLMFAO! HAHAHA! PREACH JON K, PREACH! RIGHT ON!
MAMBA24(LARRY)

So, I just did a quick Bio-Chrono reading for Pau Gasol and I will summarize his problem as such:

Pau Gasol doesn't feel that his teammates are looking for him as much as he'd like, so, as a result, he's developing trust issues with his teammates, these issues are inhibiting his sense of internal peace/centeredness, and, as a result, this internal disquietude is inhibiting the potency of his creative decision-making, thereby leading to less spirited and competitive play.

The solution? Pass Gasol the ball more often so he feels that his teammates are looking (attracted to) for him and trust him. This will resolve the situation.

Pau (and Andrew) are both trust-orientated. Thus, they need to feel that their teammates trust them to function at their best. This means that they need to get more touches on the ball to play at their best. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS AND THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT. It's just how they are.

So, a lot of people have been complaining about Pau's recent pouting in the media about not receiving enough touches, well they shouldn't. It's the equivalent of a "desperate cry for help" as a professional athlete.

A fish will never be a bird and a leopard can't change its spots.

Pau, to function at his best, needs to feel that his teammates are always looking for him and trust him. For Pau, that means more touches. More touches equals Pau being a better teammate and more explosive player.

It's just the way it is.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

"This team is playing badly because they're trying to change their identity. They're not a rugged dirty team, they're a finesse skilled team" - P Ang

"Everyone's talking, saying the right things but I haven't seen any improvements on their play." - LadyJem24

"we could not rest on our laurels and to stay on our grind after winning a championship, the 1st for most of the team and they have basically done just that -- they've in fact beecome satisfied/complacent, lazy and unmotivated." - Lakersrydeordie

ABSOLUTELY AGREE. Are these the words of the so called Chicken Little Fans? I sincerely disagree. Fans react based on what they see on the b'ball court. Fans may say nice things about their team to appease their thirst and hunger for success but deep inside they sense a malignant problem developing. It is either complacency or jealousy attributed to success.

To the Laker Organization starting from the owner, GM, Coaches and players - Beware on the Ides of March, the anniversary of death of Julius Caesar. If you want to talk success, you've got to plan it and wield it. Enough of those talking points, JB invested 100M+ on salaries for players and coaches, it is time to ask for a payback.

To Pau Gasol, RonRon Artest and Shannon Brown (New Lakers) - yes this the team of opportunity that will achieve your dreams. The spoils of life are within you from the access to Hollywood stars and media, the mountains, the beaches, the laid-back life but based on tradition it's tough to please the people of Los Angeles. It is a forgiving city but also ask in return toughness, excellence and weed-out mediocre s. It is either you put up, shut up or get out.

To all Laker players, I leave an aphorism from Sir Edmund Hillary, the first person to reach the top of Mt Everest together with his local guide Tenzing Norgay, he said:

"It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves."

hobbitmage,

Thanks for sharing the breakdown. Seems right on target. I, too, don't understand the lack of understanding and execution. Like I said earlier, the NBA isn't basketball camp for pre-schoolers. There shouldn't be this much confusion at this point in the season.

Though I absolutely hated (HATED!) the infighting and drama of the Kobe/Shaq Era (HATED IT!), the thing was about that team, with the exception of the 2004 Finals, was, on the court they took that internal discord and released it upon the opposition.

Sure they were angry and upset about things, but they took it out on the opposition and punished them for getting in the way.

If guys are upset about anything, they should take it out on teams with ridiculous names like the Raptors, Bobcats and Thunder.

Who are these punks to really challenge us? How dare they?

We're the fricken Lakers!

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

The Infamous El Guapo,

"Can I get a "Stop giving Ron Ron his meds" band wagon??"

I second that bandwagon. People need to fear us. We don't just break teams bodies down. We break their hearts and their spirits. That's what we've always done. That's what we do.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

hobbitmage,

We could just have a series of life size voodoo dolls made of each Laker's most despited player and then give each of them a knife and watch them go to town on the stuff figure until nothing is left but a twisted pile of stuffing. I'd be fine with that.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

In this economy, a lot of us are doing jobs that may not be ideal for us. A lot of us are doing work that is tedious and may not reflect our best skills, but we continue to work hard and do our best because that's who we are. And then we watch our team play in front of thousands of cheering fans, and they don't play their hearts out. They allow "The Weirdness"--which is ultimately composed of petty ego and emotional issues--inhibit their decision-making, their focus, and their aggression and we freak out. It's much like walking into a restroom and seeing that someone has purposefully urinated on the floor. The first instinctual thought is, "ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME?!?!?" Personally, I forgive my team for being human and not always living up to their potential. I have faith in my team and that faith is more pleasant than chicken littleitis; however, I can understand the rage even if I don't engage in it.GO LAKERS!!!!Posted by: Jon K. | March 11, 2010 at 09:21 AM

Jon K, I feel you. That was a FREAKING MASTERPIECE!!
MAMBA24(LARRY)

It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves." Posted by: Edwin Gueco | March 11, 2010 at 09:41 AM

So that's where Phil stole that saying We don't play against the opponent, we play against us! Lol! OUTSTANDING SIR EDWIN!!
MAMBA24(LARRY)

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STOP GIVING RON RON HIS MEDS - BANDWAGON
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(01) THE INFAMOUS EL GUAPO - OWNER - "Can I get a "Stop giving Ron Ron his meds" band wagon??"
(02)JON K. DRIVER - second that bandwagon. People need to fear us. We don't just break teams bodies down. We break their hearts and their spirits. That's what we've always done. That's what we do.
(03) MAMBA24 - RIDING SHOTGUN - OOO WEEE! Drive Jon K. Drive!!

@JON K, YOU ARE ON FIIIIRRRRREEEE! PREACH, JON K PREACH!!!
MAMBA24(LARRY)

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PAU I BELIEVE IN YOU – BANDWAGON
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(01) JEANETTE – OWNER - Can we all send our positive energy and love towards PAU? Can't hate on that guy. We need him to repeat.
(02) MAMBA24 – DRIVER – The strongest tree in the forest is an oak, yet a hurricane will blow it down
Yet the thin willow will bend in the wind and rise again. Pau I believe in you
(03) SEGEBOY – RIDING SHOTGUN – THE SHERIFF - Y'all chill out on Pau ... dude just needs some encouragement. Again in my humble opinion this team just needs to come together and support Pau ... it ain't about whether he's being whiny ... it's about just saying we appreciate all you've done for us dude cuz: [before you were fighting with butter knives, you gave us the guns] paraphrasing kobe @ the time ... [we became rockstars cuz of u] paraphrasing odom @ the time
(04)
(05) BEV. P. – RIDING SHOTGUN - Pau is my favorite player
(06) MICHAEL H. - Wow I have been reading the last few threads and the hate Pau is receiving is mind boggling. Its like he spoke his mind about ball movement and playing inside out and everyone jumps on him like he was attacking Kobe, when he never mentioned Kobe.
(07) ISSANG - stop reading between the lines, making issues after issues.. come on, nobody's perfect. let us just support the team. period.
(08) EDWIN GUECO - The Catalan is at a lost. We should give all the support in this blog for what he has done for the Lakers since he came here. I
(09) JON K - A fish will never be a bird and a leopard can't change its spots. Pau, to function at his best, needs to feel that his teammates are always looking for him and trust him. For Pau, that means more touches. More touches equals Pau being a better teammate and more explosive player. It's just the way it is.

FORMER LOS ANGELES RAMS HALL OF FAMER MERLIN OLSEN DIED - RIP
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/sports/football/12olsen.html

**** BEWARE OF WAKING SLEEPING DOBERMANS *****
Friday we’re headed to “FUN” town, the Suns better be ready for a beat-down
Now that his head he had to shave, Some Phoenix Sun Heads he’s gonna Cave
We’ll see a fierceness we never knew, Look out NBA Ron Ron’s coming for you
Lamar has thrown down & taken a stand, that the Lakers will never be punked again.
The Black Mamba will be out to show, that crap like Barnes pulled won’t be pulled no “MO”
It is said you should let sleeping dogs lay; you’ve roused the Lakers Dobermans NBA
Mamba, LO, & Ron Ron have taken a stand, they will draw a defensive line in Sand
Kind of like the trio of MJ, Harper & Pippen, NBA you’ve made a big mistake my friend
Tough Lakers defense is about to be played, Be Afraid NBA, Be very Afraid
Kill the head & the body will die, we coming to get ya, Princess Jimmy & that’s no lie
Look out Shaq the Beast is coming for you, Nothing can stop him not even Shaq FU
If I were you I’d bow out in the 1st round, because your lard butt the Lakers will pound
The Lakers are gonna win the title again, Darth Stern nothing you can do about it my friend
You picked Princess Jimmy now you will learn, Rings are not given they have to be earned
We earned our Rings the old fashion way, by kicking every @zz in the NBA.

Thanks for the love guys!!

MM

Mamba24,

The thing is about sports and competition is that it is one of the last healthy avenues where men can explore their primal instincts and be rewarded for it.

As a person, I am generally a kind and trusting person who labors to see the best in people first and to forgive people for being human--which ultimately means being imperfect and destined to make mistakes. That's who I am.

BUT I also have egotistical, even violent, elements to my personality.

In athletics, I (with very rare exception) played fairly. I don't cheat, but I want to DESTROY my opponent. I want to punish them for thinking that they can compete with me, for thinking that they can be better than me and I never gave up.

In football, you can hit someone with every ounce of your being and get a standing ovation for that? How awesome is that? You can't do that in real life, but one can channel their full competitive physicality on the court and on the field and, when done by the rules, you are rewarded for that--both emotionally and by society.

Kobe gets that. Watch him play. He embraces the full spirit of his competitive nature without excuses, without compromise, without apologies on the court... and that's why he's as Great as he is.

The rest of the team needs to learn that it is okay to completely submit to that competitive instinct (something that is so often shamed in our society) ON THE COURT. The court is a different world, and thank God for that.

On the court you can punish your opponent without regret or hesitation. Off the court, one must relate to their opponent with empathy, compassion, and kindness. That's how it not only is, but should be.

The Lakers have been given a rare gift, the HONOR of being able to channel their inner competitive spirit without compromise. What a tremendous gift. Now they better live up to the responsibility of being given that gift.

Champions are won without apologies.

If anyone thinks that they're going to take what belongs to us, they've got another thing coming.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

mamba24, I'll take that spot....I believe in Pau.

Pau and Kobe will get back on track. Its good to see that they are both as hungry as they are.

Thanks Mamba!

I'm enjoying the posts everyone is putting up today. I think its definitely good to be critical of the Lakers. Not one player or even the coaches are immune from criticism.

I hope the last game against Toronto begins the "Release the Beast Time".
Phil finally gave some quality 4th quarter crunch time minutes to Drew and he responded well. It was also interesting to see Gasol's conspicuous absense at the same time.
Whether PJ's call was subtle retribution for Gasol's public stabs at Kobe or if he came to the conclusion, as many bloggers have, that he has been very inconsistent (to put it nicely) in late game situations, it was needed. PJ has not hesitated to pull AB from the line-up for lessor infractions and it is only fair and equitable that he treat Gasol the same way.
Now I have criticized AB harshly this year, mostly because of my perception that he was not hustling, but it's that time of year where you wipe the slate clean and start focusing on the big prize .
Go Drew Go.

Friday game vs Suns will be, well, could be a nice test to see what we really are made of. Hope the guys realize that it's close to time to stand up, with just 17 to go. Kinda would like to have Home Court. Denver had a tough sched, but Dallas's is pretty weak.
Can't rember where I read this, probably here, but since stats were kept on Game Winning shots (00-01 era) Kobe has the most at 20 (final 10 seconds). Melo had 5 in 06-07, but obviously Kobe now has that record!
I still vote Kobe as MVP, but he probably has the only one he'll ever get! Not enough fairness among the voters. LeBron is great, but one just can't, or shouldn't, ignore those Game Winners!

I'll believe in Pau when he starts playing at the level he was last year in the playoffs.
His game has slipped noticeably this year and yet he has the nerve to talk smack to the media about Kobe (Michael H., whether he actually said Kobe's name or not, everyone knows who he was talking about)

If your play is weak, you should not speak.

If your play is weak, you should not speak. Posted by: Troll Man | March 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM

DAMMMNNN!! Thats deep brother Troll Man. I understand your point, but Pau is a critical part of the team and since the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts, unless The Lakers unite and to paraphase Unless the lakers play together as a team they shall perish apart as losers.
Mamba24

If I have any problem with this team, its the lack of, not necessarily 'quality' veterans, but lockerroom veterans. We have no Harpers, Shaws (at least, not in a uniform), Cartwrights, Horrys, etc.

Fisher? While he's still a leader, the message can get old, and its really only been coming from him for the past 2 years.

I'd gladly trade some of that 'potential' that we've had at the end of our bench for the past 2-3 years for a couple of players know what it is to act like professionals.

The only thing I think about the critical comments are that there should be a better way to do it than through the media. Kobe was pumped when Pau came over and you'd like to think that Pau would talk to Kobe about how he (Pau) could be better used to help the team. I still think that Kobe is all about Rings and not so much else. Otherwise he'd toss up 40 shots a night and lead the League in scoring. I like Pau and hope he is big in the Playoffs, but still trying to remember the last Game Winner, Game Tying, or just Big shot the Pau has made? I can remember several misses. But, don't get me wrong, Pau is super and Lakers need him, but I too, the Weak no Speak phrase.

Too late or couldn't help us to sign Bruce Bowen? Thinking that putting him ouy there with Ron, wow, could be tough. Also Bowen probably shoots 3 pters btter than anyone we have on our bench. Just a though?

how does kobe not win MVP

if it wasn't for his 6 game winning shots, we would've been like 4th place right now.

MAMBA24 - Please put me on the "I believe in Pau" bandwagon - We need him at his best in order to have a shot at repeating this year.

Jon K., Good analysis. Less verbal diarrhea please.

Below is also quite annoying.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Faith and Hope and Stuff,

If my enthusiasm for the Lakers annoys you, perhaps you should go someplace else, because if you think I am changing for you, then you are sorely mistaken.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers FOREVER.

GO LAKERS!!!!

How does Kobe not win the MVP? Because he's the biggest a--hole in the league. Even his own players hate him! Artest will cost the Lakers a game or two during the playoffs he can't help it. It's in his DNA. The Lakers will not repeat this year.

the lakers have talent..but they need an attitude change. the other teams look hungrier. forget finesse..if your 7ft..."dunk the ball"....to many missed shots. jump alittle it may help also......little teams are beating up on our big guys...show them who's the boss before its too late.Defense leads to offense. Where's the defense ?


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