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Kobe Bryant wished the Lakers' 109-107 victory over Toronto didn't depend on his game winner

Standing in front of his locker, Lakers guard Kobe Bryant bore a solemn look that's usually reserved for losses.

He dismissed the Lakers' 109-107 victory Tuesday over the Toronto Raptors "as garbage." He chalked up his sixth game-winner of the season as just part of his responsibility, saying, "it's my job to bail us out." And when asked if there was anything positive he could take away from the team's performance against Toronto, he said, "No, not really."

It's not only striking that Bryant would express such irritation moments after nailing a 17-footer from the right side with 1.9 seconds left after getting separation from Antoine Wright. It's also striking that Bryant's mood drastically juxtaposed his demeanor following the team's 96-94 loss Sunday to the Orlando Magic. Despite the Lakers capping off a winless three-game trip with a loss to Orlando, Bryant expressed remarkable optimism. And despite the team avoiding a four-game losing streak with a win to Toronto, Bryant had a depressed and measured tone. What to make of it? It's actually pretty simple.

"With the effort we had in Orlando, it'll be tough to beat us four times [in the playoffs]," said Bryant, who scored a team-high 32 points on 11 of 20 shooting and dished out six assists. "But this thing tonight was garbage."

Of course, Bryant has been in several mood swings lately. He was part of a team-meeting Saturday where he acknowledged cursing the team out. He was also chippy with reporters following Monday's practice. But there's a reason behind the madness. Bryant clearly values the Lakers' (47-18) development over wins and losses. Sure, the Lakers' latest win gives them a three-game edge over Dallas (44-21), a four-game advantage over Denver (42-21) and a five-game cushion over Utah (41-22) in the Western Conference standings. The Lakers are still close with Cleveland (50-15) for the league's best record. 

But if Bryant was really concerned with just the win total, he would've been waxing nostalgic in the locker room with reporters who were willing to offer him the praise for his clutch performance. Instead, he lamented the latest effort. 

"What we have to do right now is focus on execution," he said. "A lot of times what happens is you get so wrapped up in the length of the season and wanting to win a championship, that you overlook the small things."

There were plenty of small things the Lakers didn't master against Toronto. Let's start at the end of the game where it appeared the Lakers secured the victory once guard Derek Fisher stole a pass from Hedo Turkoglu and drew a foul on Jose Calderon. Fisher's two free throws gave the Lakers a 106-102 lead with 30.6 seconds remaining. 

The game was far from over, however. Calderon inbounded the ball to Chris Bosh, who quickly dumped it off back to Calderon in the near corner. He then drove past Lakers forward Pau Gasol for the layup, cutting the Lakers' lead to 106-104 with 27.7 seconds left. After Lamar Odom converted on one of two free throws for a 107-104 lead with 19.6 seconds remaining, Toronto answered again. 

Calderon brought the ball up the floor and ran a high screen and roll with Bosh. Though Gasol switched, Calderon penetrated below the three-point line and then dumped a pass to Bosh at the top of the key. Bosh, guarded by Fisher, made the trey, tying it up with 9.5 seconds remaining.

"When Bosh stepped out and hit that three," Lakers Coach Phil Jackson said, "everyone's heart sunk a little bit."

But thanks to Bryant's game-winner, that wasn't an issue. Lakers forward Ron Artest inbounded the ball to Gasol as Bryant flashed up toward the wing. Upon receiving the pass, Bryant then put himself in triple-threat position. He took it from there.

"I was just surveying the floor a little bit," Bryant said. "Figured they were going to double me early, so I wanted the ball in a position where I could see my cutters. They didn't come out early, and that gave me the opportunity to escape baseline once they did come and I knocked down a shot."

Not only did the shot erase the late-game lapses. It erased the early-game miscues as well. The Lakers allowed 58 points, was outrebounded 23-20 and yielded more assists, 16-7, as the Raptors finished the first half with a 58-50 lead. This was a far cry from the welcome home the Lakers had hoped for after a brutal and winless three-game trip. It turns out the Lakers couldn't escape from the same offensive and defensive inconsistency that plagued them on the road.

The Lakers sharpened up in the second half with Andrew Bynum scoring 14 of his 22 points during that stretch, a rarity given Bynum's tendency to start strong and then fade toward the end of the game. But there was not much else to boast. Pau Gasol scored 17 points on four of 11 shooting, disappeared in the second half and was even assessed a technical over a missed foul. The team defense allowed 107 points, though the coaching staff jokingly congratulated the team for holding the Raptors under their season average of 111 points. That's why Bynum had modest excitement over his good game. 

"This is a stepping stone for us," he said. "But we need to come out and play better than we did coming out."

That's a long way to go. Jackson presented a wide range of factors that are hurting the team, including poor screen-and-roll defense, the team's offense against Toronto's zone, its shooting and the numerous hand injuries to Bryant (right index finger), Gasol (left hand), Artest (left thumb), Shannon Brown (right thumb) and Jordan Farmar (left pinkie). But Jackson found the main issue involved the team's hunger level, which he said will be hard to replicate from last season.

"We don't have that, not that we can't reclaim it. At some point, that's what we're trying to do," Jackson said "There are a number of ways we can find our way through this. Some of it is just about communication between the players. Some of it is just about having that spark that happens between collaboration. Some of it is just about making the games exciting for ourselves."

That was certainly the case against Toronto, with Bryant netting another clutch shot in dramatic fashion. But it's not exactly what the team, nor Bryant, had in mind. 

--Mark Medina

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Wow. Korey Haim of "Lucas" and "Lost Boys" fame is dead. I wonder if it was drug related.


And, I'm not responsible for the comedy, I just pass it on. Sasssy Gay Friend saves Juliette:


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Wes

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Need a shot to win a game, Give it to Black mamba, Kobe Bryant’s the name
Seven game winners so far this season, If he doesn’t win MVP tell me the reason
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Haters & Trolls & all the rest, there’s only one player who is simply the best
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Before his career is finished is gone, Black Mamba will surely stand alone
Alone as the greatest in History, It’s not only possible, in fact it’s Destiny
Most game winners, more points than a team, these are the feats of Kobe Bean
His legend only grows more each day, Kobe don’t need you, you need him NBA
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I seem to recall quite a few games like this last year, with lots of stories about the Lakers "playing lackadaisical" basketball and "waiting to turn it on" against most opponents. This storyline, and the one about being soft, went on through about Game 4 against Denver, then things changed. So, I'm not too worried yet about that element. Regardless of what I want as a fan, I just don't expect any team in the NBA to dominate night in and night out.

But, I have been concerned all year about complacency and fatigue. I'm worried that the past two years have worn Gasol down mentally and it is starting to show in his reactions. Also, I think the "soft" references by Phil and Kobe during the year have taken a toll on him. I suspect he thought that was behind him and now he has his coach and teammate bringing it up. I think Gasol has had a relatively poor year, but the Lakers need him to play like last year in order to repeat.

It's going to be a tough slog the next month or so. I hope the Lakers can pull out a few quality, dominating wins to change the vibe around the team. I think it is possible, just a little harder than we had hoped for.

Mitch did a great job in picking up Artest but it would have been a greater move if he would have kept Trevor also.
Ariza brought hustle, 3 point shooting and defense. Imagine Ron starting and Trevor off the bench. As I said before in previous thread we won championship with Trevor and no he was not pushed around like rag doll against Eastern teams. How soon you forget.

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | March 09, 2010 at 11:57 PM
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A year older Melo, Lebron, etc would give Ariza problems. Artest bullied him last season when they played Houston. He is not strong enough. Not with this formula to be the Lakers every team has been adapting to (thug basketball). Yes, we could use Ariza, same thing with we could use Rony Turiaf. But Ariza left and he bad mouthed the Lakers, probably scripted by his agent. And then signed with the Rockets for about the same money? Lamar did not let his agent control him. It was all up to them, they are paying their agent's salary.

Re: NBA as posted in the previous thread by yellofever:
Yes, I am very afraid that IF the Finals happen to be Cavs vs Lakers. We've seen previews of it. Lakers always loses. Another opportunity for the NBA to humiliate the Lakers and there is nothing we can do about it.

Kobe ego-driven "take every big shot demeanor" embodied by his quote,"it's my job to bail us out." Can come back to haunt.

Don't think Jerry West expressed a similar sentiment enough he was a clutch as Kobe. Lakers will win and lose as a team. Kobe placing himself above the team may be problematic in the future.

D. Fish played terrible defense last nite again. Jarrett Jack had a tremendous game continuous the streak of opposing PG's torching Lakers defense. This deficiency can't be blamed on Farmar who only played 14 minutes.

Last nite clarified the Bynum vs. Bosh argument.

Most basketball people would take Bynum who is taller, stronger inside and has more upside.

Good morning,

Part of me says, just forsake the computer keyboard and shut-up for once. The Lakers won. Be happy. Kobe sealed the deal and saved the day. It's a win. Leave it alone.

On the other hand, my evil twin says, "Wake up! The game was an ugly, disjointed mess. PJ looked irritated all throughout the game, as well he should have been."

These are our defending world champion 2010 Los Angeles Lakers. A conundrum. One of the most talented assemblages of NBA players in recent memory. Rushing shots. Breaking down defensively at inopportune moments. Flailing arms in frustration. What to make of it all?

The good: The win ended the threat of a 4th consecutive loss, which would have eroded the team's confidence even further. Andrew Bynum came alive in the 2nd half, giving the Lakers a needed lift.

The bad: The bench played so poorly, PJ brought back his starters two minutes earlier than he normally would have in the 4th.

Bottom line: The team is still looking to restore its mojo, but isn't there (yet).

On to Phoenix! Still time to get in sync before the playoffs begin. A chance to establish a winning streak the team sorely needs. I say, "Take it!" Go Lakers!

stern sets his own rules all by himself...he suspends players at will sometimes with little or no reasoning... he will continue to fine ANYBODY (players/coaches/ owners) that speak up against him... remember the days when cuban was a new and maverick owner and used to badmouth him repeatedly earning repeated fines of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?? why do you think he kisses his ass now?? as for this year's finals.. laker fans better sincerely hope and pray they do not face THE CRAB or THE KING in the finals because there is no way in hell or highwater that he will let his anointed one walk away without a ring. BE AFRAID . BE VERY AFRAID. Posted by: yellofever | March 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM

I wasn't Afraid before but I am now and...OUT FREAKIN STANDING

A win yes, however this effort will not win another Championship. Andew played well on both ends of the floor and they need that same effort from Gasol.
He has not been right since the All Star break. Let's go LA!!

Shorten the rotation -- hell the bench isn't doing ISH anyway!!! But the downside is our older players need to get rest at some point!
Hope they aren't waiting on Luke to come back, no guarantees. But when he is out there, he can at least SECURE a damn REBOUND!!! The rest of the team has fumble-itis! And if one more long rebound goes to the opposition again, I am gonna pull my hair out from the roots fo real! That riles me! Where are our guards? And how come we don't knock people to the ground when they go str8 to our basket, if you are gonna foul -- make it a worth it!


We got issues...But it wouldn't be LA without it! If its any consolation, New Orleans Saints lost 3 in a row at the end of regular season and wound up Super bowl champs so maybe peaking at the right time thingy is a little skewed...

Part of me says, just forsake the computer keyboard and shut-up for once. The Lakers won. Be happy. Kobe sealed the deal and saved the day. It's a win. Leave it alone.Posted by: Rick Friedman | March 10, 2010 at 07:14 AM

RICK FRIEDMAN! Don't you ever shut up! Keep on doing what you doing because you do it well and...OUT FREAKIN STANDING!!
Mamba24(Larry)

And let me be the one to add two and two. All these guys like LeBron and Melo who suddenly found the "secret" to notching their games up a space or two, should send Kobe a percentage of their checks for showing the entity of team USA how to be a champion. The change in LeBron's game as well as Melo's can be traced directly to those summer-game scrimiages where Kobe showed the rest of the fraternity the secret to his continued success.


Wes

Morning, Lakersblog....

A win is a win and this one was desperately needed. I'll take away some positives from this game. Drew played perhaps his best defensive game of the season. He altered multiple shots, blocked 2 and showed well on the pick and roll. He also defended Bosh out on the perimeter and forced Bosh into some tough makes. He bulled his way to 22 points. Nice game all around with the caveat of his rebounding (6).

If I have time to check the blog later, no doubt there will be numerous comments telling us that Kobe Bryant is just a selfish ballhog and that without him this would have been a Laker blowout. I'll scroll past those. All I know is that when the game is on the line, Kobe NEVER runs away from the ball. He is always willing to put his chestnuts in the fire and live with the consequences. His excellence is so expected that people forget that he is only human. I am humbled by having the privelege of seeing this great, great ballplayer. Years from now, when people talk about his exploits, there will be disbelief of just how good Kobe was. I've seen it with my own eyes for almost 15 years and will never take him for granted.

The Lakers move on. Tough game on Friday in Phoenix. That would be a good time for the Lakers to play a strong game and beat down the Suns.

GO LAKERS!!

It's Time For... Jon K.'s Early Thoughts That He Has Not Put Much Thought Into Yet:

1. Kobe is amazing.

2. What's up with Pau recently? It's like he's sulking or something.

3. "The Weirdness" is upon us again. I hate The Weirdness, that strange quality that undermines synergy on our team. It happens, but I hate when it happens. This is a Phil Jackson issue. I'm not saying he's created The Weirdness, but it's his job to get rid of it.

4. "The Weirdness" was basically upon us all of last season until Game Seven of the Houston series when we finally got rid of it. Sometimes a team needs a gun to its head to wake up out of a slumber, as frustrating as that may be.

5. I think more players need to step up to leadership roles on this team. It seems like players such as Artest and Gasol seem to shirk away when they OVER-defer to Kobe's leadership.

6. Why can't Bynum and Gasol BOTH be aggressive simultaneously? That CAN happen, right? At least one could be aggressive on offense and the other aggressive on defense? Why not at least try that out for a couple games?

7. I think Josh Powell is a better player than he is given credit for. I feel good when I see him on the court. He at least gives effort.

8. Good to see The Machine back on the court. I hope we also get Luke back soon. I know these two players annoy a lot of "fans," but they don't annoy me. They bring something to the mix.

9. Hopefully this next road series will be the struggle that we need to get over The Weakness.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

There is a problem going on in the locker room that none of us know about. I don't see the desire to play for each other with this team. I know its a long season and all, however, you would think that after sixty games that you would see some bonding somewhere. The front office has dropped the ball in regards to strengthening the bench!!! The coaching has dropped the ball in regards to making these players responsible for their failings!!!! I don't like the look of this team right now. The way they talk makes you think that all of them are ready for the season to be over so they can get some rest. The way they play in the next two weeks will tell what may happen in the playoffs. Come on LAKERS, get your panties out of your behind and play like CHAMPS. This team is still immature and it shows nightly. I hate watching other teams (Cle,Denver,Dallas,Orl,etc.) all play like they really enjoy playing with each other, and, then the Lakers come out and play like garbage like they have been lately against .500 and under .500 teams. I have nothing else to say at this moment.

You can't compare era's but the 80's team always played hard and the early 2000's team played hard most of the time when Fat Albert was motivated and everyone could agree with each other. This time is too laid back like they have accomplished a whole lot. Remember guys you've only won one title together not multiple!!!

Mamba24 (Larry),

Thanks for the props. You inspire us every day; your enthusiasm is the heart and soul of this blog. We are all better fans because of what you bring to the party. I don't say it enough, but I think of it every time you post.

bashing Luke: getting too old
bashing PJ: too aloof
bashing UPS: just another scrub that inherited the Mo Evans, Ariza "wannabe"
bashing Ear Jordan: now that feels flop-able to the Ears

bashing Faux Pas: PRICELESS

Not a huge win, but I have to say I liked the extra effort they showed in passing the ball, especially in the first half. If the defense had stepped up, that would have been a beautiful blowout.

I didn't watch the game (don't have cable). But I did listen to it on nba.com and I was in the live chat. I don't know if you guys heard, but Pau was still complaining about the "balance" of the offense.

WTF?!

He hinted that it was good in the first half (when the Lakers trailed) but that they went away from it in the second half (when the Lakers outscored the Raptors to come from behind). I'm not exactly sure what game he's watching. Its like he doesn't realize the Lakers almost lost because of defensive breakdowns (of which he had many). He doesn't get it that the Lakers had plenty of offense last night.

Only when the interviewer pinned him down, you know reminding him that Kobe actually saved the game after it was their defense that let them down, did Pau concede that begrudgingly. He's active very weird.

He didn't even have a hand in Boozer's face on that three. Boozer sank one in the first quarter, so everyone should have been on notice that he has that range. Boozer has hit eight threes this season, two of them (25%) last night. This is a really good stat for a legit center.

Pau's gotta start reading those scouting reports and taking them to heart.

"Pau needs to shut up and start playing some hard ball" @jovbatz

--FEARless


IT Began with Shannons first Dunk

Remember, we were rollin', it was all up side, the team flowed sans Kobe and we all KNEW after the All Star break we'd go on a rampage of wins.

Then:
Slam dunk off...Shannon eyes the first dunk... a rampage turns into a whimper as it clanked off the rim.

One can't know for sure, but I'm convinced if that one had gone down, we'd be dominating. As an insane fan, you have to watch the "signs".

Andrew was a good sign last night.

So many thoughts go through my brain about last night, but one thing really stood out to me...Drew's defense on Bosh. He ran down the court to get position, he really bent his knees and he was focused in. I can't remember the last time I saw him so animated on the court! This is something to celebrate and I hope his teammates recognize his effort.

On the other hand, Pau is my favorite player, but several times last night he had easy layups where I expected him to dunk it, but he tried to lay it up instead and failed. He just didn't have the "umph" he usually has. I actually was hoping that PJ would put him back out after the technical as he is one player who actually plays great when he's mad and I think it would have helped him to have that level of passion in his game.

Well, on to the next test on Friday...here's hoping each game will take them steps up to the next level of play needed for the playoffs.

Moderator - Regarding people who supposedly sign in using different names isn't possible. The system we have tracks IP addresses so it'll notice duplicate posts or multiple screen names in hopes that the integrity of the blog is maintained. Posted by: Mark Medina | March 09, 2010 at 05:27 PM

UGH...Ever hear or spoofing? Or just working in any office where there are multiple PC's and PC labs.

Todd,

you wrote: Most basketball people would take Bynum who is taller, stronger inside and has more upside.

my response: *I* think you're wrong about this. When the rumor was first
put out, the owner of the Raptors was expressly clear that he had no strong
desire to do the trade. i.e. He preferred Bosh over Bynum. Yes, Bynum is
taller. 1 game does not a discussion make. If Bosh played in the triangle I
suspect that he would have far more rebounds than Bynum because he plays
better. Also, you're talking about a difference of 3 years and Bosh has not
had two knee injuries.

you also wrote: Kobe ego-driven "take every big shot demeanor" embodied by his quote,"it's my job to bail us out." Can come back to haunt.

Don't think Jerry West expressed a similar sentiment enough he was a clutch as Kobe. Lakers will win and lose as a team. Kobe placing himself above the team may be problematic in the future.

my response: Jerry West did not play with Pau & LO & D-Fish. There is a
reason why he's called Mr. Clutch. *EVERY* "GREAT" player wants the
ball at the end of the game. THAT is why they're GREAT!!!

Kobe has *NOT* placed himself ABOVE the team. He has placed himself
*BELOW* the team. i.e. ON HIS BACK! It is his responsibility to carry the
team because nobody else can hit a shot. Reference the last second shot vs.
Memphis and Artest's brick. Reference Pau's bobbling the ball and the pass
to Shannon vs. the Celtics. Reference Bynum's foul troubles. Reference
D-Fish's horrid shooting this year. [ note: I heart D-Fish ]

This is what I call home court advantage:

An only-in-L.A. moment also factored in the final decision moments earlier, when Toronto's Jose Calderon went racing to the sidelines to save a loose ball with 1:48 to play. Before Calderon could get there to attempt an out-of-bounds save, the ball was tipped away by Lapo Elkann, the Fiat heir and international playboy watching from a courtside seat.


the 2 famous players that had their shorts pulled down in a game?

Paula Pierce ( by none other than Ron Artest)
Paula* Gasol (yesterday)

*copyrights of the name extended courtesy of Celtics

the message of the gesture from NBA players - the Paula's don't deserve to wear pants

ps. the best self-proclaimed shooter in the world missed a buzzer beater last night against the Bucks - the one and only Paula "wheelchair" Pierce

Todd,
[Kobe ego-driven "take every big shot demeanor" embodied by his quote,"it's my job to bail us out." Can come back to haunt.]

Really whose job is it then, if it ain't kobe's?

[Last nite clarified the Bynum vs. Bosh argument.
Most basketball people would take Bynum who is taller, stronger inside and has more upside.]

And umm forget I even said anything. If you'd rather take Bynum over Bosh, I'd love to have you as an opposing GM. A basketball mind like yours is one I wish the rest of our competition shares.

John K.

Good choice of words...the "weirdness". I'll have to remember that.

It's obvious some of the folks commenting here either weren't Laker fans very long ago, or have some memory problems. This whole mid-late-season "What's wrong with the Lakers" thing has been asked every year since Phil came here. You might be able to point to the 2000 Lakers as one exception, as that was the year Phil came to town and lit a fire under Shaq's ass and the Diesel had maybe one of the most dominating years in recent history.

But since then, every year we Laker fans have lamented "What's wrong with these guys" during the regular season. Even the 2nd and 3rd of our 3-peat teams has ridiculously frustrating losses this time of the year (I remember some really poor efforts against Atlanta in particular).

It seems that's a side effect of Phil's "pace the team for the playoffs" approach. That tells the players they can coast (for lack of a better word) through the middle of the season and turn it on towards the end. Now, that's not necessarily a bad way to go about it, as Phil's 10 rings attest. But the drawback to that is you run the risk of not being able to turn it on when you want and you end up frustrating the crap out of your fans.

You can see this in Phil's comment, "We don't have that, not that we can't reclaim it. At some point, that's what we're trying to do".

So I guess we'll have to see if this team manages to turn it on between now and April. If we do, we'll see you in the finals. If not....anything can happen.

MAMBA24....

You're a poet and you show it!! Props, my brother!

Y'all chill out on Pau ... dude just needs some encouragement ... Again I say we make a pecking order where Pau is the clear number 2 guy on offense and other guys lose their license to shoot ... then again I got faith the zen master will right the ship in time

As for Kobe saying a last second shot over Toronto @ home isn't something to celebrate ... duh

The teams' feeling the pressure of having to repeat ... but we're mamba faithfuls ... we'll cry if we don't win it all but we'll be back out there next season screaming payback is a b***h at the opposition

Honestly I don't think it'll come to that though ... like who here really thinks Dallas is salivating at the thought of meeting us? ... Even when we sucked, kobe was dropping 62 points in 3 quarters on them ... and lord knows purple and gold nation could use a thorough beat down of Caron Butler and co ... if only we can finaly get over that trade and sleep easy knowing management made the right move in keeping Odom over Butler.

Stretch run people ... you know the rules ... 2 late to make trades ... panicking ain't good for morale ... rep purple and gold with pride ... tell the haters we'll see them in the playoffs ... pray to whatever you believe in ... and scream your lungs out if you're fortunate enough to afford tickets to the game ... show your team love yo cuz it's that time of the year again ... y'all remember how happy we all were when we won it all ... we're relatively healthy ... there's lots to be grateful for ... and we've still got one bad muffa for a leader

24 + 16 + [3|1]7 = The Purple Tinted Golden Age

an ugly, ugly win! BUT we'll take it. kobe does it again, which shows just you how valuable he is. although the mamba is getting tired of being kyra sedgewick (the closer) all of the time. it's time for the supporting cast to step up, especially in the backcourt..... and with artest. in the last four games, farmar 9/27 fga, brown 10/30 fga, artest 8/32fga. you can forgive artest cuz he's been solid on "D" AND because he hustles, but the other two, brown and farmar have been M.I.A. someone get an A.P.B. for those guys. there's no way in hell we'll repeat without great DEFENSE or a strong BENCH. the mamba can only take us so FAR! afterall, it is a team gane.

Mamba24,

Excellent poetry. Brilliant.

--FEARless

Jon K.

"What's up with Pau recently? It's like he's sulking or something."

LoL ... come on dude, step your game up ... you should be telling us what up oh jedi master of the chrono readings ...

Again in my humble opinion this team just needs to come together and support Pau ... it ain't about whether he's being whiny ... it's about just saying we appreciate all you've done for us dude cuz: [before you were fighting with butter knives, you gave us the guns] paraphrasing kobe @ the time ... [we became rockstars cuz of u] paraphrasing odom @ the time

Remember the equation folks: it starts with kobe, then pau, then any one of odom, artest or bynum bringing their A game

24 + 16 + [3|1]7 = The Purple Tinted Golden Age

mti312

>>>Yes, I am very afraid that IF the Finals happen to be Cavs vs Lakers. We've
>>>seen previews of it. Lakers always loses. Another opportunity for the NBA to
>>>humiliate the Lakers and there is nothing we can do about it.

Maybe nobody has told you this, but the regular season games don't count in the finals.

Yep. That's right. If the Lakers face the Cavs in the finals, they start off 0-0, not 0-2.

And if you're convinced that a regular season sweep is meaningful, I suggest you check out the Lakers' record vs Orlando last year... regular season: 0-2. Finals: 4-1.

Todd,

>>>Last nite clarified the Bynum vs. Bosh argument.
>>>
>>>Most basketball people would take Bynum who is taller, stronger inside and
>>>has more upside.

Not at all.

Bargnani defended Bynum, and he's a terrible defender, so Socks went off.

Bosh defended Pau, and held him to 4-11 shooting.

And you don't judge players by one game. Where was Bynum in his last game? 1 for 5 shooting and foul trouble. That's where. Last time Bosh played Orlando, he had 18 points on 50% shooting and 12 rebounds.

hobbitmage,
"Kobe has *NOT* placed himself ABOVE the team. He has placed himself
*BELOW* the team. i.e. ON HIS BACK! "

Let me beat mamba24 to the punch (hopefully, dude is in playoff form already) ... outfreaking standing dude ... let them know cuz these retards will never understand that trumping up the same tired not a teamplayer angle just makes it easy to smack them down ...

use your minds haters, say something different for once ... idk, like durantula's going to eat kobe alive, but my brain's already screaming he'd choke on mamba venom ... so umm i guess not a teamplayer is the way to go ...

Mamba24 (Larry),

Thanks for the props. You inspire us every day; your enthusiasm is the heart and soul of this blog. We are all better fans because of what you bring to the party. I don't say it enough, but I think of it every time you post.

Posted by: Rick Friedman | March 10, 2010 at 08:10 AM


Me too.....I heart you MAMBA24 :-)

When this blog gets so depressing to read, I look for your posts and I feel better and make me believe again in the goodness of Lakers fans.

Sherrif (segeboy)

You need to pin that badge back on and get to work around here.

Great post, you've been missed.

@SEGEBOY - THE SHERIFF, By god it's good to have you back Sheriff. now that you have become a big time entrenpeneur don't go forgetting about your Blog family now, you hear? LoL!
Mamba24(Larry)

lakersrydeordie,

>>>...New Orleans Saints lost 3 in a row at the end of regular season and wound
>>>up Super bowl champs ...

EXACTLY. This is the key point that a lot of the naysayers and Kobe haters seem to forget.

Yes, it's nice if your team can dominate for a whole season and then win the championship as well. But a few losses (even consecutive ones) during the regular season don't mean much.

This Laker team is BUILT for championships, not for the day-to-day slog of the regular season. If they get bored sometimes and play below their level of competence, it's not a huge surprise. The Shaq-Kobe Lakers were the same way.

Some of these teams like Dallas and Denver and Orlando are playing their hearts out right now. But when the Lakers raise the level of their game back up to playoff level, most of them don't have that higher gear. Cleveland showed their true colors last season when they had the best record during the regular season, then didn't make the finals. Last time Dallas had the best record in the league, the lost in the FIRST ROUND.

NBA Championships aren't won in March... they're won in June.

@BRONXLAKERFAN, you are to kind by far sir. But I thank you.

Kobe has *NOT* placed himself ABOVE the team. He has placed himself *BELOW* the team. i.e. ON HIS BACK! Posted by: hobbitmage | March 10, 2010 at 08:46 AM

DAMNNNNNN!!! I wish I had said that! But I will say...OUT FREAKIN STANDING SIR!!!
Mamba24(Larry)

>>>The change in LeBron's game as well as Melo's can be traced directly to those
>>> summer-game scrimiages where Kobe showed the rest of the fraternity the
>>>secret to his continued success.

Yep. Kobe taught them everything they know...

But he didn't teach them everything HE knows. ;-)

LA Guy,

You posted a stat about the fact that LeBronze's clutchness volume being so much greater than Kobe's. However your stat fails to recognize the quality of LeBronze's supposed clutchness.

I pointed this disparity or oversight in a subsequent post, yet you have not responded.

Actually, I thought that post was a cop-out and not up to your usual standards, anyway. We all know that quantity is not desired over quality. Kobe does this in the playoffs. It is how he's amassed four rings.

--FEARless

I 2nd the motion to Bronxlakerfan, the one holding us right now is Mamba24 with his last pitch of "We have to believe the impossible."

Nobody said about M/M with his jacket, now he looks like a regular guy at Santa Monica pier (homeless lol!) No, i think you look good with Mike B. on your side You looked like brothers like the KBros whose pictures appear daily on this blog to remind everyone who are the dictators, ooops I meant moderators.

The blog is happy on a W day. I wonder if Kobe missed that shot and went to OT like in Miami and lost.....watch out for the tsunami and the trade winds for the lebroniacs. Why do they like Lebron in LA? He doesn't look Hollywood, he could qualify as bodyguard of the late Michael Jackson or the face of 24 Hour Fitness. hehe, it's my turn in dissing the lebroniacs.

Next trip is Phoenix, we go back to baby steps one day at a time. First learn to walk in triangle, second, how to run in unison, third jump when the ball is in the air, and lastly, pump a lot of energy drinks, bananas including "viagra" on Pau..... by then we'll be ready for Friday's game.

"Wow. Korey Haim of "Lucas" and "Lost Boys" fame is dead. I wonder if it was drug related.


And, I'm not responsible for the comedy, I just pass it on. Sasssy Gay Friend saves Juliette:


http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/sassy-gay-friend-romeo-juliet


Wes

Posted by: wesjoenixon | March 10, 2010 at 06:06 AM"


Wes, I'd take that bet...you wonder why people don't have better "handlers" with basic instructions....."Let me party, but don't let me die"....

When this blog gets so depressing to read, I look for your posts and I feel better and make me believe again in the goodness of Lakers fans. Posted by: Jeanette | March 10, 2010 at 09:28 AM

Thank you Jeanette. And do you know the name of one of the very best good Lakers Fan. JEANETTE! I get a kick out of reading your posts and there have been times when you have lifted me, Yes me from the Negativity Syndrome. Thanks for your post and all you do and keep on doing what you do Sister.
Mamba24(LarrY)

Yep. Kobe taught them everything they know...But he didn't teach them everything HE knows. ;-)Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | March 10, 2010 at 09:35 AM

Another Jewel from the great one, LTLF. AWESOME!!

mAMBA24(lARRY)

Mamba24,

You know what's funny about those Nike Puppet commercials? You can understand LeBronze. If Jimmy and Mitch puppets are successful in ousting Phil, the Emperor (Jerry Buss) will find he has no clothes.....and it will take beyond Kobe's career to be competitive for the title, and Kobe has one main thing on his mind....Championships. Remember when he was a teenager and only had the support of one team-member???? Well, his parties almost over, so we should enjoy it while we can, and win as many as we can, instead of bickering over Poker or Race Horses.

Please read PJ's "The Last Season".

All his thoughts directly applies to you fans and the current Laker franchise...

...and Kobe.

To a T.

Remember when he was a teenager and only had the support of one team-member???? Well, his parties almost over, so we should enjoy it while we can, and win as many as we can, instead of bickering over Poker or Race Horses.Posted by: humanomaly (29 minutes) | March 10, 2010 at 10:19 AM

OUT FREAKIN STANDING and I say yes and I say AYE!!!
Mamba24(larry)

Please read PJ's "The Last Season".All his thoughts directly applies to you fans and the current Laker franchise......and Kobe.To a T. Posted by: Curry | March 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Read it! Kobe read it and if he's still willing to have Phil as a coach who am I to question it. If you ever been fired have you not wish to have a chance to vent against the boss. Well the book was Phil's way of venting. The fact that he was willing to come back - even for 12 million dollars - shows there must be something to that Zen stuff and Kobe is a more mature man than many people give credit.
Mamba24

He didn't even have a hand in Boozer's face on that three. Boozer sank one in the first quarter, so everyone should have been on notice that he has that range. Boozer has hit eight threes this season, two of them (25%) last night. This is a really good stat for a legit center.

Pau's gotta start reading those scouting reports and taking them to heart.

"Pau needs to shut up and start playing some hard ball" @jovbatz

--FEARless

That was Bosh...not Boozer. He is on Utah.

Mitch did a great job in picking up Artest but it would have been a greater move if he would have kept Trevor also.
Ariza brought hustle, 3 point shooting and defense. Imagine Ron starting and Trevor off the bench. As I said before in previous thread we won championship with Trevor and no he was not pushed around like rag doll against Eastern teams. How soon you forget.

Posted by: JustaLakerFan | March 09, 2010 at 11:57 PM
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A year older Melo, Lebron, etc would give Ariza problems. Artest bullied him last season when they played Houston. He is not strong enough. Not with this formula to be the Lakers every team has been adapting to (thug basketball). Yes, we could use Ariza, same thing with we could use Rony Turiaf. But Ariza left and he bad mouthed the Lakers, probably scripted by his agent. And then signed with the Rockets for about the same money? Lamar did not let his agent control him. It was all up to them, they are paying their agent's salary.

Re: NBA as posted in the previous thread by yellofever:
Yes, I am very afraid that IF the Finals happen to be Cavs vs Lakers. We've seen previews of it. Lakers always loses. Another opportunity for the NBA to humiliate the Lakers and there is nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: mti312 | March 10, 2010 at 06:40 AM

=========================================
Oh yes I remember the Houston series and we lost right? Artest bullying Ariza sure especially since he was mostly guarding Kobe. Yup we never then met the Thuggets because they bullied their way past Trevor and the Lakers. And we never beat Magic to win championship with Trevor guarding Turk. Yeah right.
Yes Magic swept us in season but didn't we beat them for Championship? Quit trying to rewrite history to support weak argument.
Now as for a year later remember we would have had Ron to guard those guys and Trevor off the bench when those guys left the game.

If you ever been fired have you not wish to have a chance to vent against the boss. Well the book was Phil's way of venting. The fact that he was willing to come back - even for 12 million dollars - shows there must be something to that Zen stuff and Kobe is a more mature man than many people give credit.
Mamba24
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Mamba24,

PJ wrote in his journal DURING the course of the season. Writings DURING the course of the season is VERY DIFFERENT from writings AFTER a season because your thoughts become more biased over time. Essentially, the process of making the book was merely a compilation of all PJ's thoughts --- sorted, edited and themed --- with the help of the other author.

In other words, it really wasn't a tell-all venting after his time with the team was over.

Big difference.

Second, Kobe came back to the Lakers because...where the heck else would he fit in?

Think about it.

If you read the book, PJ makes really clear and astute analysis of Kobe's personality.

Angry
Narcissistic
Isolated
Vulnerable

I'm not a Laker fan, but I actually have more respect for Kobe after reading his book.

I never knew Kobe to be a vulnerable human being. This is an enormous piece of information to me. Makes me want to root for the guy.

For the record, I am a fan of Phil Jackson. I am a fan of Tex Winters. I am a fan of the triple post system. And I am beginning to be a fan of Kobe.

I am not a fan of the Lakers franchise however.

The Lakers franchise is just a product of geographical location.

Sorry I got Boozer and Bosh mixed up. But, please understand I wasn't actually watching the game, only listening. There were no visual clues to help my memory.

The fact remains that Bosh sank a three which necessarily meant he could sink another.

--FEARless

Pau your best player:

Well if we put our apples in Gasoft wagon we will not win our first round play-off. Gasoft is that and he is what he is, soft and that's what I aspect. Winning those Euro games have gone to his head, Someone from Spain must have told him that he is the best player on the Lakers. If he took 20-25 shot's how many lay-up will he miss. From the many that he miss now from his total of shots he 12-15 he would miss around 4or 5 maybe more. Those weak lay-up that he puts up, the guy miss a lay-up that was a air ball. Needs be be stronger then that, just a little bump Gasoft is off balance just weak. Needs to play defense come out strong to start the game play with some energy. What does he think, he and Drew should dominate the ball neither one of them are great passers. They just hold the ball the shot clock runs down, if they don't shot, they pass the ball to Kobe for a rush shot. If Pau had any moves to the basket he would make them, but he wants to be a point power forward go across the lane with 10 to 5 seconds on the shot clock and then pass to someone who must rush there shot. Big boy go to the weight room develop some move to the basket shut up. Really you maybe our four option. Last night I had a vision Bosch for Gasoft I like that move. You can play for the six seed in the East each year until you retire, how about that.

Jason F.,

Months ago I wrote a long treatise on "The Weirdness." I've been thinking about it and I think it's time for another.

We are certainly under the thrall of The Weirdness right now.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Segeboy,

"LoL ... come on dude, step your game up ... you should be telling us what up oh jedi master of the chrono readings ..."

I laughed, Sheriff.

Dude, I just wore up and was having my first cup of coffee before having to run out and sell drinks to thugs and criminals. Cut me some slack.

HOWEVER, you have made a point. I'll run Pau's Bio-Chrono tomorrow and find out what the heck's going on.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!


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