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Caught in the Web: Short-handed Lakers will try to end Utah's nine-game winning streak

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One team enters tonight's contest not exactly sure who will suit up. The other team enters with momentum on its side.

The Lakers will find out at some point later today whether Kobe Bryant will miss his third consecutive game because of a sprained left ankle (a decision that, it's probably safe to say, will not be made based on this wide-ranging poll). Although it's not completely official, center Andrew Bynum will likely be out (right hip) and forward Lamar Odom will likely be in (sore right foot). Given his resurgence in the last two games, it's a good thing Odom is probably in, though he's largely been dependable on efforts that go beyond the box score.

Meanwhile, the Jazz is on a nine-game winning streak, capped off Tuesday with a 109-99 victory over the Clippers. It featured a motivated Carlos Boozer, upset that he was passed over in favor of Clips center Chris Kaman as Brandon Roy's replacement in the All-Star game. It featured the Jazz rallying from an 11-point, third-quarter deficit. And it featured the Clippers commiting 10 turnovers in the second half.

The Jazz (32-18) has won 13 of its last 14 games and currently trails Denver (35-17) by two games and the West's leading Lakers (40-13) by 6 1/2 games. That cushion may not be enough to make Lakers Coach Phil Jackson feel comfortable, but  The Times' Mike Bresnahan is figuring out possible travel arrangements for the first round of the playoffs.

Utah already has unseated the Lakers this season with a 102-94 victory Dec. 12, a day after Bryant suffered the avulsion fracture to his right finger. Tonight, Utah will face the Lakers lacking full strength, but guard Derek Fisher says that's a challenge the team will have to overcome.

When asked how injuries might affect the team's game plan, Fisher said: "It definitely makes it tougher for us to have those key match-up advantages.

"But it takes it back to what we talked about before, which is relying on everybody's ability to contribute and make plays. That's what we'll have to do to try to win the game."

More Lakers links (after the jump)

--Updated 10:44 a.m. Bryant and Odom were named to the 2010-2012 U.S. Men's basketball team.

-- Jackson may have surpassed Pat Riley as the Lakers' all-time-winningest coach, but The Times' Bill Plaschke breaks down why the Zen master doesn't exactly feel fully immersed in L.A. "I get claustrophobic in cities if I've been there too long," Jackson told Plaschke. "I still have that country bumpkin kind of thing, I need some open spaces between me and people."

-- Need to see Shannon Brown dunk before the NBA All-Star Dunk Contest? By now, you've probably watched videos at LetShannonDunk.com too many times, so check out Brown's face-off with LeBron James in 2003.

-- USA Today's Jeff Zilligitt has a quick but comprehensive Q&A with Brown.

-- There's a chance Brown won't have to worry about unseating defending champion Nate Robinson. The New York Daily News' Frank Isola reported the Knicks guard may sit out of the contest because of a strained left groin.

-- HoopsWorld's Eric Pincus reports that sources have told him the Bulls are placing greater emphasis on  securing cap room this summer than making a postseason run. Of course, that's of high interest to Lakers fans because of the possibility that Chicago guard Kirk Hinrich could be traded. Because Sasha Vujacic is not a huge selling point for the Bulls, Pincus thinks the team's best option may involve "scrounging the waiver wire or holding pat at the deadline."

-- The Lakers aren't the only ones interested in what the Bulls have to offer. The Chicago Tribune's K.C. Johnson says the Orlando Magic is one of many teams Chicago has talked to in hopes of trimming down its payroll before the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

-- Fans worried that Lamar Odom's Taco Bell commercial means he's continuing his unhealthy eating habits can take solace that he's just appeared in a Power Bar commercial.

-- In a roundtable discussion, Sports Illustrated's Ian Thomsen, Jack McCallum, Frank Hughes and Chris Mannix debate all things NBA, including whether the Denver Nuggets are the Western Conference's team with the best chance to beat the Lakers come postseason play.

Tweet of the day: "Shannon said he is going to use Kobe as a passer on one of his dunks on Saturday. See, Kobe can pass. He could have picked Pau." -- mcten (ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin).

-- Mark Medina

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Photo: Ron Artest, right, reaches in on Utah Jazz forward C.J. Miles, left, attempting to steal the ball during the second half of a regular season game in December. Credit: Steve C Wilson / Associated Press

 
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I will be very interested to see what Kobe’s decision is vis-a-vis the ASG. It will tell us all a lot about what his current priorities are. Personally, I would like to see him play tonight in Utah, if he can, and then tell the league that he’s gonna skip the ASG. That obviously would not go over well with the powers that be but it would send out just the right signal to his teammates and to the Lakers’ fans. The message being that he’s focused exclusively on winning another championship and not so much with appeasing Stern and his cronies, not to mention his agent and sponsors.

If Kobe does play tonight it will be very difficult for him to skip the ASG, there may even be a fine involved, which I would hope that Jerry Buss would cover. However, Kobe should not let that discourage him for playing against the Jazz if he is able and feels he can help the team win this next game.

If Kobe doesn’t play tonight but does play in the ASG, even token minutes, I will lose a small degree of respect for him. Not as a person but as a player devoted to a cause.

kobe bryant is a laker for life. those of you who think the lakers can compete for a championship without kobe are delusional. you think lamar and gasol will hold up under the pressure of a 7 game series?

Posted by: Tom | February 10, 2010 at 01:21 AM

like kobe said, the only rough and physical team in the western conference is denver. in the east, boston and cavs. hmmmmmm i wonder how gasol has performed against those teams....pretty bad in my opinion.

Posted by: Tom | February 10, 2010 at 01:23 AM

Not a diss at Gasol but THIS Tom has redeemed the Tom name but not being a Farmar lover/Kobe hater and spoke the TRUTH! Sure this blog may be too Kobe aligned at times but hey Kobe is part of the Lakers! Hey Todd at least we prefer to be Mamba fans than a delusional fan like you who believes that Jordan Farmar is the best PG in the league (even jimjoyce would laugh in your face) and Andrew Bynum is on the caliber of Kobe/Lebron/Wade.

proving once again that most of the other teams in the league AND Larry Brown are absolutely insane...

- "The Boston Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats are discussing a trade centered around Glen Davis and D.J. Augustin, according to league sources." "Augustin, who's fallen out of favor with Charlotte coach Larry Brown..."

- look at the 2008 draft, this is INSANE! Charlotte took Augustin when Brook Lopez was still on the board!!! ???

- You wonder why some teams draft the way they do? BECAUSE THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY INSANE. Oh yeah, what did Charlotte do with the overall third pick in the 2006 draft? They drafted Morrison... and EVERYBODY knew it was a bad pick... and they did it anyway...

Wow, what a morning in the blogsphere!

Zaira, Johnny V, Fearless, Jon K, LTLF, Rick F. – Enjoyable stuff as always.

Lakersrydeordie, Tom Tom – Chill guys! This is just a fan blog after all. It’s not like your best friend just killed your dog. All the different views and ideas are food for the mind to chew on. No need to take it to a Fabulous Forum level.

Trade Kobe Faction – Trading Kobe would be like trading one of my kids and having to cheer for someone else. Of course it will be different if Kobe puts himself on the market: That would just be a slap in my/you/our face. Naw, you pay the 30 mil per and have Kobe continue to bring in the rings and train the next young find. There are plenty of young guys that can play the game, but how many know the game like Kobe?

Jon K v Kobe the Facilitator – You got me thinking here. In past seasons Kobe would pass because he knew that the shot would be too good to pass up or he saw the movement developing into another pass that would be next to the basket. This year it has been like you said: a shot or a pass back to Kobe. Could it be that he isn’t concentrating on his “court vision” or has the off the ball movement has been minimal this year (I honestly don’t know the difference in movement between Trevor and Ron). Is the movement being inhibited by too many big men?

Over the last two games the Lakers have only had one big guy on the floor at any given time and the movement off the ball has been much more noticeable and it seems like the guards see everything two beats before it happens. I guess you put me on the “Bynum off the Bench” bandwagon. Of course, if Drew could extend his shooting range a little more…

JR


Kobe can't bail on the ASG if he plays tonight but that won't be a concern. He's goin' to Texas to help Shannon dunk, get introduced, work up a light sweat, a few laughs and watch LeBron win the MVP. Not that it's scripted or anything.

Jolly Rancher,

"Is the movement being inhibited by too many big men?"

I honestly think that the number one inhibition to ball movement is not Kobe (he's the number two inhibition). The number ONE inhibition to ball movement is a lack of player movement.

When Kobe has the ball, too many players are standing around. Usually one guy is moving and Kobe's dribbling and everyone else is watching. Kobe can't really pass because the passing lanes are blocked. So he either:

1. Creates his own shot

2. Passes to the guy who's moving and thus, more open, who either shoots are moves to the basket to shoot

or

3. He passes to the guy who's moving who immediately gets covered and then nervously passes the ball back to Kobe

What I loved about the game against San Antonio is that there was a lot more foot movement in addition to ball movement. When The Triangle is dynamic it seem to work. When people are standing around waiting, it doesn't seem to work so well.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Kwaminus I can teach you, but I have to charge Brownicus,

Trade Scenario: Adam Morrison for Kwame Brown.

Whaddya say?

Everyone knows we can't win a Championship without Kwame Brown. It's just not possible.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Phil: "Poise and self control are the keynotes of what I like to practice and teach."

The man is so out of touch. What's the point of playing if you don't get to chest bump, low / high five and stare at your left hand in disbelief 'cause you actually made a shot with it?

VMan,

Chris Kaman: All-Star MVP. You heard it here first.

Go Clippers!!!

GO LAKERS!!!!

IRONICAL: Good practice now Kobe learn how to pass, very happy for Kobe and I am glad Shannon Brown pick Kobe and NOT Pau. As we know PAU already know how to pass and Kobe need lots of training.


Tweet of the Day: "Shannon said he is going to use Kobe as a passer on one of his dunks on Saturday. See, Kobe can pass. He could have picked Pau."

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.

Peace

VMan,

"Not that it's scripted or anything."

Not "scripted", per ce. Moreso, David Stern and a cadre of NBA staff collectively tasering the remaining members of the Eastern Conference All-Star team at halftime while screaming, "YOU PASS THE BALL TO LEBRON, OKAY!?!?!? OKAY!?!?!? YOU PASS THE BALL TO LEBRON!!!!" as the players writhe upon the floor in agony and LeBron stands above them sneering, his arms folded defiantly across his chest.

Strangely, LeBron gets 35 shots in the second half on his way to a 50 point game.

Something like that.

And Chris Kaman still wins the MVP.

It could happen.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Vman,

"What's the point of playing if you don't get to chest bump, low / high five and stare at your left hand in disbelief 'cause you actually made a shot with it? "

You forgot mugging for imaginary cameras and putting "goose goggles" over your eyes when a shot is made.

The moral is: If you can't ape around like an immature idiot, David Stern is not interested in promoting your career, okay?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Adam Morrison for Kwame Brown? I do that in a heartbeat. As much as we all like to make fun of the Kwaminus, he's vastly better than Mbenga and would certainly help against Cleveland and Shaq. As a matter of fact, if we ONLY got Kwame so he could bang against Shaq for a few games in the playoffs, that would be more valuable than anything Morrison will ever provide here but... it'll never happen...

- I haven't kept up with the blog but anybody even suggesting we trade Kobe is a fake poster or some kind of "fight picker" alias because trading Kobe is obviously a concept only an IDIOT would come up with! LOL! Yeah, we wish he would take fewer shots but... come on... that would be like Indianapolis trading Peyton Manning...


Regarding whether Kobe plays tonight and/or at the ASG, I hope he skips both, but my guess is that he'll play in both, still not fully healed. Kobe still hasn't accepted the reality of (dare I say it?)...aging. He definitely still has the skills, and his BB IQ is way off the charts, but as Neil Young sang...Rust Never Sleeps. The reality is that the farther you go past 30, the easier it is to get multiple, chippy injuries, and the harder it is to heal from them (Bret Favre being the singular exception to that rule). Those injuries take just enough from your stamina, quickness, and lift that you suddenly start getting stripped of the ball on drives, bricking or even air-balling shots that used to swish, and generally getting exhausted defending journeyman guards you used to smother. Not every game, but uncomfortably frequently.

It's something that all great players face and have to adjust to. Some don't and burn themselves out, embarrassing themselves in the end (Exhibit A: Michael Jordan). Kobe needs to learn to not fight it, but adjust to it. Become more of a decoy/facilitator. Pace himself. Save the energy bursts for when they're needed most. I hope he figures it out.

Jon K: In answer to your questions:

1. Talking about reducing PJ's salary is management's way of telling him that they're not satisfied with the job he is doing this season, that the team is not playing well enough, that Dr Buss is not getting a sufficient return on his league-leading and luxury-tax crushing payroll this season.

2. As to why there is not enough movement when Kobe has the ball: Is it possible that this is because Kobe himself is not moving properly within the offense? Ie, rather than move through the triangle's progressions, he just hangs out on the wing, waiting for the ball to be passed back to him? ----Guaranteed, if one player fails to follow through, the triangle will grind to a halt.

VMan:

You posted: Phil: "Poise and self control are the keynotes of what I like to practice and teach."

The man is so out of touch. What's the point of playing if you don't get to chest bump, low / high five and stare at your left hand in disbelief 'cause you actually made a shot with it?

aaah, grasshoppa you have failed to understand Phil's keynote and I suggest you read again and aginn until you understand, no need to respond, just know for your self and I happy for you.

When you in fierce battle poise and self control needed and not jive turkey show..

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.
Posted by: Shalin Monk | February 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

u really did not get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tweet of the Day: "Shannon said he is going to use Kobe as a passer on one of his dunks on Saturday. See, Kobe can pass. He could have picked Pau." -- mcten (ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin).

last year after much hype and internet voting, Rudy Fernandez won a place in the dunk contest. for one of his dunks, coming from behind the board he needed a PASSER. he chose PAU "the passer" GASOL.

they tried like 20 times. everyone was bored already, the time allowed was clicking. it was the laughing stock of the dunk contest in history. PAU GASOL's passes were badly timed or not in the right place.

so, actually the ESPM guy who twitted that info was sarcastic about Kobe vs. Pau, especially in the new "touches" context.

so obviously, you r the "Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day." do u have only one chopstick in your hand???????????????? do not go hungry …

I need to make one thing very clear.


I love KObe Bryant at his best, Lakers do need Kobe Bryant and I hope Kobe is a Laker for life and wins 7 rings total.

That said, I also believe the talented athletic Kobe is no longer the same as the old injured Kobe. Also, A Kobe that only hurts the team's chemistry is painfully hurtful. Gasol, Fisher, Bynum and Jacksoin have all said it.


What happens when others starts to have balls to say it out loud like Farmar, Artest and Odom.


This team could explode in an instant.


I am saying all these things because I believe the leadership has to come from Kobe, in the hopes he realizes now that the LAKERS BLOG wants him to be a team player and a great team leader.


Otherwise, as good as he is, he can not win a championship all by himself. Make no mistake! He needs Gasol, Bynum, Odom, Artest and the rest of his teammates.


The way he is playing this year, his teammates are not happy.

This is a time I wish KB is Magic or MJ.


Kobe is 31 years old. He should know this by now, he should be playing to maximize his team's talent, which is the best in the NBA. Easy said.

Give this team to Magic Johnson or Lebron James, this team will be crazy great... Give it to MJ (Longley/Cartwright). Kobe has Gasol and Bynum.


The only reason KObe does what he does, is because LAKERLAND has spoiled him to much for too long.


It is time to say no to KOBE BEAN BRYANT.

Kobe, We want you, we love you, but we want a TEAM EFFORT, we want a GREAT LEADER that unites the team. We no longer want a Kobe show, not when you are aging and injured.


To all Lakerfans!!!!

Lakers is no. 1, Kobe is no. 2. Nuf said!


Rick Friedman,
" If you told Kobe just before tipoff that he had 48 minutes to live, you could safely bet the house, the ranch, and the dog on how he would spend his final moments."
Unfortunately, in that instance he'd probably never make it to half-time since an NBA game typically take 2.5 hrs to complete. However, he might well be pleased with the idea of dying right out on the court during the second quarter, and think of the TV ratings that could bring in!
Posted by: aztronut | February 10, 2010 at 10:01 AM

r u so dense? in your kobe hate?

before tip off 48 minutes, for me is a full game of iBB regardless how long the game will take in real time. ever heard of context?

If I was Kobe Bryant...

Okay, I know the chances of this happening are almost zero. But if I was Kobe, I'd go meet with Mitch right now and make his job easier. The Lakers are nervous about the PG position and they're nervous about spending future money to improve the PG position.

Kobe has the ability to reduce that problem. If Kobe takes a max contract going forward, it makes the salary numbers more intractable year after year. But if Kobe is willing to take a deal that's "more than anyone else on the team, but below the max", he could probably persuade Dr Buss to spend the extra cash to shore up the Lakers' weakness at PG.

Right now, Kobe's on the books for 24.8 million for next season. But he has the right to opt out of that, and I believe he can do so at any time (correct me if I'm wrong). So what if Kobe agreed to opt out of that and make a deal for 18 million, 19 million, 20 million, and 25 million over the next four seasons.

That immediately drops the contracted salary by 6 million for next season, and at least as much over the other 3 seasons.

With that much going back into the coffers, the Lakers could afford to add another high-salaried (but not max) player like Hinrich or Jose Calderon without making the salary problems any worse than they are now.

Honestly I don't think it will happen. Kobe is deserving of every penny he gets, and will probably take a max contract. I'm just saying, if a lesser contract is still more money than you could spend in a lifetime and if it encourages the management to spend more to make the team just a little bit better, and thus improve Kobe's chances of winning more titles, it might be better for everyone.

When you've already got 100's of millions of dollars, what's more important? More money, or a better chance at more rings? If it's me, I want the rings.

Jon K,

>>>Trade Scenario: Adam Morrison for Kwame Brown.

Actually, I'm not completely opposed to that idea. Kwame ain't great, but he's better than MBenga and he is an expiring contract.

But what's in it for Detroit?

jimjoyce,

"Talking about reducing PJ's salary is management's way of telling him that they're not satisfied with the job he is doing this season, that the team is not playing well enough, that Dr Buss is not getting a sufficient return on his league-leading and luxury-tax crushing payroll this season."

Please provide a link to anyone in Lakers "management" talking about reducing PJs salary. I do not believe that this is what has happened and I try my best to pay close attention to whatever's going on in Laker land.

My understanding of the situation was that PJ speculated in the media that he might, and there's the key word so I'll say it again, might be asked to take a salary cut next season. He threw out this there, as a strawman I believe, to voice his objections to league-wide ownership's rumblings about tightening belts and cutting back on player salaries, including a possible lock-out/work stoppage if they don't get their way in the new NBA players union contract negotiations.

I also think PJ wanted to let the Buss's know that he would walk if such a situation arose. To that I say, good on ya' PJ, although I would hate to see him go. PJ is obviously a man of principle and that has been reflected in the teams he has coached over the years.

As per usual, the media took his statement, promptly distorted it out of context and ran it all over creation. Please let me know if you have some information on this that I am missing, but remember to provide references when you are putting words into other people's mouths. Even those as nebulous as "management".

Staples 24 wrote: "Kobe, We want you, we love you, but we want a TEAM EFFORT, we want a GREAT LEADER that unites the team. We no longer want a Kobe show, not when you are aging and injured."

Now there ya go, I think that is a statement that we all can get behind.

JR

jimjoyce,

1. I think you may be onto something. Dr. Buss is essentially playing mindgames with the Zen Master. Not necessarily the most well-thought out approach, methinks. I, personally, am against communicating via the media. It seems awfully passive-aggressive to me and passive-aggression is a synergy killer.

2. "Is it possible that this is because Kobe himself is not moving properly within the offense?" Yes, this is why I noted in an earlier post why Kobe is the number TWO reason for a lack of ball movement within the offense. The number one reason being everyone else standing around waiting for Kobe to make something happen.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

ouchhhhhhhhh,

"r u so dense? in your kobe hate?...before tip off 48 minutes, for me is a full game of iBB regardless how long the game will take in real time. ever heard of context?"

Dud, I'll let the folks around here decide which one of us is dense for themselves. As Richard Feynmann once famously said, "reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Or how about this one, "Time waits for no man..." Hemingway, I believe. Regardless of context, time is what it is!

LongTimeLakerFan,

By the way, congratulations on your first stalker.

As bizarre as it is, being stalked is a sign that you're saying something significant and have thereby infuriated someone who wishes they had something significant to say.

To your question:

"But what's in it for Detroit?"

Ummm... I don't know. Sometimes I just say things without really thinking about it.

Ummm... I hear people in Michigan are even less healthy than people in Northern Ohio. Adam Morrison has diabetes. It really opens the Pistons up to the diabetes type II market in Michigan? How about that?

Ummm... A lot of people in Michigan chew tobacco. Adam Morrison chews tobacco. You could market a "Pistons Flavor" chewing tobacco to Michigonians and Adam Morrison could be the spokesperson.

Ummm... Expiring contract? Wait isn't Kwame's contract expiring too?

Ummm... yeah. I don't know. Help me out here.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

KB Blitz, did you see the Staples24 post?

Its about the Lakers.

"It is time to say no to KOBE BEAN BRYANT.


Kobe, We want you, we love you, but we want a TEAM EFFORT, we want a GREAT LEADER that unites the team. We no longer want a Kobe show, not when you are aging and injured." -Staples24


I really don't get this and other recent threads of logic. Does anyone here really think that the two games we've seen the Lakers play without Kobe are any true indication of how the team would play without him for a whole season? Seriously?


I have been one of the more vocal proponents of Kobe re-evaluating his role in the offense, because of injury, pre-injuries...well let's see, we had the best record in basketball, he was leading the league in scoring, we were marching to the playoffs.


Hmmm, what's wrong with that picture...oh, wait, nothing! Nothing at all. This team is built around Kobe, without him, the entire Laker scouting report changes. Pau gets doubled all game long, Lamar's man sags off him and dares him to shoot and coaches will live with Artest shooting 3s. They'll let Farmar rdribble to his hearts content and we will not make it as far as the Finals. No doubt in my mind.

Here's some logic problems:

In a close game, who do you give the ball to on this squad, minus 24?

Who can command a double-team ANYWHERE on the floor to give the bigs and the youngins more room to operate?

Other than Fisher, who will light a fire under the team's collective tuckus to make sure they play right, with enthusiasm and with purpose?

C'mon Blog, he's earned every penny ever payed to him and he'll earn every future penny, too. Let's not pinch pennies on this fellow, he's the best player in the league today.

aztronut

regardless of all the famous "time" quotes u can goggle 48 MINUTES in BB refers ONLY to A GAME OF BASKETBALL, regardless if it ends in 1:48, 1:59, 2:01 or whatever duration id necessary to PLAY the 48 minutes of basketball.

obviously, Rick in his post was referring to Kobe's "symbolic" last game he will ever play. your little joke about him being dead after 48 min. of real time, and the infusion of some random literary references do not support your case. on the contrary make it more dense and glib at the same TIME.

"If you told Kobe just before tipoff that he had 48 minutes to live"

Just to clarify, is that before actual tipoff, or scheduled tipoff? Because if it's the second game on TNT, he may never get to play.

Jerry Buss has the biggest payroll and the best talents, he just wants results. He wants this team to be the most dominant team in the NBA. Frankly, he is right on.


Buss wants this team of his right now to be talked about as the NBA's best team ever.


It is not happening.


This is why he is pushing Phil to make it happen. He is also sending a message to Kobe, you are on contract extension for 30 milk a year, this team is not even playing as the best team in the NBA. You are the Leader and Superstar of this talented team, what's wrong?


Buss has the right to push the Coach and the Superstar with a payroll this big.


The game with Cavs and Denver was a wake up call for Jerry Buss, his team with all the talents, he expects it to win.


ouchhhhhhhhh:

hahaha..grasshoppa you make good hall monitor and you react quick, sometimes posts are posted out of sarcasm or intent to incite other posters for knee jerk response and you win the prize for a poster quick to a knee jerk response..you quick with sword, slice and dice benihana style, well done..

ouchhhhhhhhh,

Once again, I'll repeat that you are not in any position to judge others' density or glibness. If Rick's intention was so obvious perhaps you should let him speak for himself. But then, maybe he gets the joke and you don't. It's alright if you don't think it's funny, just move along and keep your scowl. The fact is that a 48 minute basketball game normally takes about two and a half hours to play. Why you have such a problem with this reality I can only imagine. Facts are facts, whether they fit your idea of an appropriate joke or not.

Oh man, I hear somebody going for Kwame Brown. I'm ready for harikiri to stop that trade or get a contract on someone's head whoever thought of that silly idea.

ex

lol

aztronut:

You write: "Dud, I'll let the folks around here decide which one of us is dense for themselves."

ouchhhhhhhhh sleep good last nite, lot of energy today, he walk without armor, vulnerable, trigger happy, young gunslinger in search of identity, Man who stand on toilet is high on pot..


THIS GRASSHOPPA VERY FOND OF THE WORD IDIOT:

The moral is: If you can't ape around like an immature idiot, David Stern is not interested in promoting your career, okay?

man who stand on toilet is high on pot

Let me try to make some improvements in my use of humor, with a bit of assistance from the outside world...

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/colbert-sarah-palin-is-a-f--king-retard-video.php?ref=fpblg

Coincidently, the title to this forms a good analogy to what I think of some of the knee-jerk attack dogs around here as well.

LAKER TRADE BYNUM BEFORE TOO LATE...

Shalin Monk,

"Man who stand on toilet is high on pot.."

I tried it and it's just not the same, thanks anyway.

Staples 24,

Dude, lay off Kobe Bryant. He's among (if not "the") the Greatest players to play the game.

The Lakers can improve, and that includes Kobe Bryant, but it is in no way limited to Kobe Bryant.

Have you seen how everyone just stands around when he gets the ball?

How is that Kobe's fault?

Even if he's not going to pass the ball, they better damn well get open and play like he's going to pass the ball.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

REPOST

Greetings Lakeshow Fans,

It's quite clear that most Lakers fans have a take on whether KB24 should sit for a while or not. Here's my take if I may...

KB24, first and foremost, is a 14 YEAR VETERAN that has played a TON of games and minutes...Also, he is not your average 31 year old player.

Calculating his mileage (too many miles to mention), he is probably a modest 35 year old athlete with a lot of dings,bruises, and bumps (no disrespect to those out there who are 35 and older, me included...Ooops, my left knee is starting to tighten up again from all that yardwork (: ).

Folks, the bottom line is that this man has had the hunger and will to win hands down for years, even through nagging and awful injuries as well as in his sleep.

What he has probably learned over the past couple of years is to "pace" his passion and "embrace" patience, unlike previous years when he was so doggone determined to beat teams himself and harp on his teammates effort on the court (although the Bynum lashing was certainly an eye raiser). Age does that to you...

As a result of his maturity as a person and player, we have seen the KB24 evolution come to fruition, as our Lakers claimed the 08-09 NBA crown last year. He not only manged himself mentally last year, but also physically.

Speaking of the mental/physical aspect, KB24 is fully aware of his body in terms of what he "can" and "cannot" do on the court. He played with a messed up pinkie last season and did quite well, a "Championship" and "Finals MVP" well that is...He really GETS it!

The reality in the present,however, is that his teammates (ALL of them) have to step up their own games in the event they have to fill the void KB24 provides on both sides of the floor night in and night out (especially when his body and mind say absolutely NO!).

Based on the last two games, I don't see any reason why the Lakers players should regress moving forward. They have "10 Rings Phil" and a system that is made for winning championships, and is proven. Our team is flat out DANGEROUS and getting there! Just imagine once KB24 gets healthy again...Wow! He is our "ultimate" closer.

BTW, didn't our Lakers look good running pick and rolls up high the other night vs SA? Like I said in earlier posts, this team is too talented not to adjust to other teams' game planning against them, with or without KB24.

It's just a matter of the Lakers getting things moving from now through April, handling business in May, and closing the deal in June...

Fan message to Kobe: KB24, I humbly request that you rest a few games more so that you can get back to your MAMBA self (YES, tonight at Utah). There is nothing like a "healthy" and "focused" KB24 for the stretch run. There is a championship yet to be defended/won. You are the Lakers closer and, YES, leader.

Laker pride through ALL and ANY ADVERSITY!

Peace!

Staples24:

you write: "Kobe, We want you, we love you, but we want a TEAM EFFORT, we want a GREAT LEADER that unites the team. We no longer want a Kobe show, not when you are aging and injured."

Kobe is a figurehead and Dfish is the true leader... Kobe seek immortal status but not possible.

I sick and tired, I bored watch Kobe battle 1,2,3,4 ,5 defenders, make very very difficult shot and his teammate watch and admire Kobe.

Last game laker play, notice all teammates very happy, i see in their faces and eyes the real joy of being part of a team..as an observer I see a good team play, all happy, Kobe learn from side line but not possible...he not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to team concept..sorry..but very good, the best individual player playing today..

HOW IRONIC:

Jon K, wrote: "Have you seen how everyone just stands around when he gets the ball?

How is that Kobe's fault?"


RESPONSE: YES YES YES !! Kobe's fault!!!! because once Kobe get the ball, he never give back, then he go into battle alone...make diffiocult shot, acrobatic shot for highlights.

Once Kobe get the ball he become a black hole and never see the ball again..

His teammates look scared when play with Kobe, last game they without Kobe they all look VERY VERY HAPPY, EXTREMELY HAPPY..

you dig!

Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs.


Right now, Kobe's on the books for 24.8 million for next season. But he has the right to opt out of that, and I believe he can do so at any time (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Posted by: LongTimeLakerFan | February 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM
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His deadline to opt out is June 30th. Starting July 1st, he is locked in for 2010-2011 season, which would really be a bad move on his part. The current CBA expires in 2011 and who knows what would happen, given the current economic situation.

It is almost a certainty that he will opt out before June 30th and get a few more years locked up. It might also be one of the reasons why he continues to play despite the injuries. He wants to convince Jerry B that he is still a safe long-term investment.

>>>Ummm... I hear people in Michigan are even less healthy than people in
>>>Northern Ohio. Adam Morrison has diabetes. It really opens the Pistons up
>>>to the diabetes type II market in Michigan? How about that?


oooh. Insulin Tuesdays. That oughta draw a big crowd.


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