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James Worthy and Bill Walton appear on 'The Price Is Right'

After collecting three NBA championships during the Showtime Era, former Lakers great James Worthy demonstrates his big game with sharp analysis on KCAL-9's Lakers post-game shows. Former UCLA great Bill Walton followed somewhat of a similar path. Years after winning two championships, one with Portland and one with Boston, he's also provided -- what should we say -- interesting comments over the years as a commentator and studio analyst.

The two appeared Thursday on CBS' "The Price Is Right," and though the video below doesn't reveal the ending, I'll play the spoiler. A basketball hoop, NBA jerseys, a sports boat and a three-night stay and round-trip fare to Dallas for the NBA All-Star game was estimated a little too high.

--Mark Medina

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Cool. I'd like to see Walton back on TV. I don't know why the back made him give up work completely.


Wes

Wes,

I, too, like Walton as a commentator. He's over-the-top, but he's fun.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

astronut,

you wrote: It seems fairly obvious to me that when Kobe calls out Drew, or Pau, or LO, to set a pick for him on the perimeter and then jacks up an outside jumper instead of using it to drive to the hoop, as he should, then whoever set the pick is left way out of position to effectively crash the boards. However, when Kobe does use the perimeter screen to drive the lane then the man who set the pick can trail him in and thus be in excellent position to rebound a miss. At least that is one counter-example to your premise that I see fairly often.

my response:

1. Thanks for responding.

2. I'm *moderately* ok with the guy who set the pick not being in a position
to respond. That scenario actually doesn't address what the rest of the team
is doing.

Have you been watching the Cavs? I keep seeing JJ Hickson crash the boards
and get tip ins. I believe it was the game in Chicago, we had 1 tip in and it was
LO. The problem is: no one is following Kobe when he penetrates. No one
moves to the basket when the long range jump shot goes up. It doesn't matter
*who* shoots it.

Bynum has *NOT* boxed out to get a rebound. It's not just my imagination.
Sports writers have actually mentioned it. I've posted the comments and the
links.

Gasol's best rebounding game was Chicago, I believe where he made the
*EFFORT* to get rebounds. 18 of them.

In 50 games this year, Bynum has 10 *LESS* offensive rebounds than he
did last year when he was hurt.

Do you see what I'm saying? The *effort* hasn't been there. I get not
getting shots if Kobe breaks the offense. It seems to me that if I were
mis-reading what Bynum is doing ... The sports writers would not have
made the same observation that I did. Nor would Phil have made the
comment: If we don't start Bynum he won't play defense [ paraphrase ].
Bynum's play has made it *VERY* clear/noticeable that if he's not the
focus of the offense he won't play defense. That's not Kobe's fault.
[ and Ex/Lakertom I posted the link. It is black & white not gray. ]

LRon,

You still out there? They're talking Walton here and if I recall correctly that's your second favorite subject. I'm keeping the lights on for ya...

Nice topic something refreshing. What do you think of Bill Walton as Coach of the Clippers? He used to be a franchise player of the Clips after his Portland stints then got injured until he retired for while & joined the Celtics.

After PJ, how about Big Game James as Laker Coach, he has never been tried in that job?

Edwin - Appreciate it. Did you see my response in the other thread to your previous post?

MM

After watching the Cavaliers last night......I am convinced the Lakers need to make a trade to obtain Kwame Brown. He may be the ONLY person in the league that can single cover Shaq.

Right now Kwame is on the end of the Piston's bench and could be a huge plus for this team........well maybe not huge but a helluva lot better than Luke Walton's contribution........ and for less money. Do it Mitch

What expiring contracts do we have?

Celtics are going for Caron and Jamieson for Ray Allen while Cavs are luring Richard Hamilton. What is the Lakers response? Just status quo because of the results of the last 3 games. Are there expiring contracts there equivalent to Ammo? How about trading him to a draft pick, at least JB will not be paying any luxury taxes on a bench player.

Edwin Gueco,

"What do you think of Bill Walton as Coach of the Clippers?"

I don't think he can handle the rigors of the position.

I say they hire Jeff Van Gundy.

Go Clippers!!!

GO LAKERS!!!!

How is it that it's snowing in Georgia, Mammoth Mountain has a snowpack of 100 inches, and it's raining in the Canadian Rockies. I don't get it.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Yes M/M i did and I also read the post of Aztronaut.

As you will read my posts, I just air some opinions, give some other news to ponder and if there are any contradicting opinions to it I seldom delve furthermore to prove my point that the other guy is wrong. We have other best use of our time than massaging our own egos. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion so let us live it there and live happily ever after as Laker fans.

This is Lakerland, Laker blog, Laker fanatics.


Laker TEAM... Go Lakers!


Stop calling people who criticize Kobe as trolls, You can criticize Kobe, if it is warranted. The last three games has been beautiful to watch and dominating at times.


YOUR TEAM benefited from it, huge! Sadly it also shows the negative effect of Kobe being in the team playing the wrong way. Every one saw it, the world saw it.


Superstars like Magic Johnson rallied the teammates and its Laker fans together, they united.


Superstars like Michael Jordan rallied his teammmates and the NBA fans together and united.


Superstars like Tim Duncan rallied his teammmates and the Spurs fans together and united.


Superstars like Shaquille Oneal and Kobe Bryant divides their teammates and destroys Laker fans cohesiveness.


I want a LAKERS SUPERSTAR I can rally for, who puts the team and his teammates above all not himself.


It is time to be a LAKERFAN again all and let go of your KOBE FANATICISM. There is life and championships after Kobe Bryant as long as Jerry Buss owns this team.


The owner is the one that puts together championship teams, the owner has won before without Kobe, and he will again with or without Kobe Bryant.


Let's go, and let's unite as LAKERFANS!


We divide and only we loose. I love my Lakers!!! Say it!


We all bleed purple and gold! There will always be another Superstar who will wear a Lakers jersey, but there is only ONE LOS ANGELES LAKERS!

pfunk36,

"I am convinced the Lakers need to make a trade to obtain Kwame Brown. He may be the ONLY person in the league that can single cover Shaq.

Right now Kwame is on the end of the Piston's bench and could be a huge plus for this team"

I'm kind of shocked that I'm agreeing with you.

Last night I had a conversation with a couple of LeBroniacs that I've almost got into so many fists fights with over the last few years that we've developed an odd kind of mutually respectful peace.

I was asking about if the Cavs are trying to make trades. They told me, "Yes," Iglauskas has actually been pushing to be traded because of his expiring contract under the assumption that he will be immediately bought out and returned to the Cavs.

This is BAD news for everyone else because the Cavs would get to keeep Iglauskas and add one or two significant pieces of talent to their team.

Here's the problem: The two teams that would be MOST open to this concept are the Washington Wizards and Detroit Pistons--both of whom are extremely financially strapped right now. Unfortunately for the Cavs, these two teams HATE the Cavs, thus making such a trade more difficult.

When I last checked Kwame was on the Pistons. If the Pistons are looking to cut payroll, why not trade Kwame back to the Lakers and drop Adam Morrison's contract?

I mean, it could work.

Kwame plays extremely good defense, after all.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Edwin Gueco,

>>>Are there expiring contracts there equivalent to Ammo? How about trading
>>>him to a draft pick, at least JB will not be paying any luxury taxes on a bench
>>>player.

Only two problems with that...

1. There are no teams with enough cap space to absorb all of AmMo's contract

and

2. Why would any team give up a draft pick (even a second rounder) to pay AmMo to warm their bench for the rest of the season?

I could see someone trading for Sasha - his shooting has picked back up lately, and he's been hustling on defense. You might get a taker for him.

But AmMo has shown nothing.

Edwin:

You wrote: "What is the Lakers response?" re: pending Feb. trade deadline


Laker are thinking "TWEAK": http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/100210mitchkupchak.html

Edwin - No worries. I was just checking

MM

Edwin Gueco,

"Celtics are going for Caron and Jamieson for Ray Allen"

The Wizards might just do it to spite the Cavs.

I'd hate to see Caron Butler as a Celtic. I wish he never left the Lakers.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Staples24,

"I want a LAKERS SUPERSTAR I can rally for"

You've got one. His name is Kobe Bryant.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Staples24,

Brother, you need to dunk your head in cold water and have me slap you a couple times.

Kobe is NOT above criticism, but he is our leader and he will be our leader.

You may not love him, but he deserves your respect.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Shalin Monk,

Thanks for that link. Problem is that you can interview Mitch for the whole day still won't get anything substantial from his loose talks. This is like those interviews in 2006 when asked about the Laker roster and he kept on saying, Lakers are coming around...with the scrubs at that time until Kobe ranted and change came around with Ariza and Gasol in one year. Nobody in this blog predicted the arrival of the two because what we know Lakers were coming around and Kobe is on the way out.

>>>I am convinced the Lakers need to make a trade to obtain Kwame Brown

Okay, you want a way that the Lakers can trade in AmMo for Kwame Brown?

Here it is...

Detroit is far enough under the luxury tax, that they could absorb the difference between Kwame's 4.1 million and AmMo's 5.2 million without having to pay luxury tax on it. So what if the Lakers offer AmMo plus 1.5 million in cash for Kwame?

Here's how the math works:

Detroit's salary goes up by about 1/3 of the remaining 1.1 million difference in salary (there's only about 1/3 of the season left). So let's say that number is about 400K. But when you throw in the 1.5 million cash, then they really SAVE 1.1 million by doing the trade.

On the Lakers' side, their luxury tax hit will be 1.1 million LESS (it's based on the total of contracts held at the end of the season - doesn't matter who you had mid season). And Kwame's remaining pay will be about 400K less than AmMo's would have been. That's a combined savings of 1.5 million. Right about the amount that they sent in cash to Detroit.

So the Lakers would get Kwame's services for the playoffs without having to pay any more than they are paying now, and Detroit would get a million bucks to swap expiring contracts.

QED

Jon K,

Will somebody please stop that trade Caron & Jamieson becoming a Celtic? Boy, that will be a lot improvement if that goes through. Caron can go to any team except the leprechauns will be fine. How about bringing back Caron to LA? His pay this year is 9.7M and 10.5M next year.

I paused a question objectively, is Caron worth exchanging with our expring contracts? I know some of you would not agree with it but it is about Caron Butler who can play as starter or reinforce the 2nd unit.


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(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I am completely disgusted at the State of the Blog recently. We have been infested with a strain of Kobe-Hater-itis that is not only contagious but especially virulent. The blog needs to be innoculated against such an agressive disease ASAP.
(02) CALIPHILOSOPHER – DRIVER - Justa - Thank you. Really, thank you for that.
(03) SEGEBOY(THE SHERIFF) - Dude seriously? What you think this is an espn blog? Save this crap for the birds cuz this here is mamba county. Kapish. Finals mvp, go by that, give him the benefit of the doubt based on that. Take a step back and think to yourself, 2 consecutive a. as some have mentioned, why not look at the other players and challenge them to be this aggressive when kobe's back and not revert to asking him for bailout shots. If memory serves me right this was the mindset of last year's squad
(04) JOHN MAILA – RIDING SHOTGUN - leave kobe alone and dont post here haters
(05) HECTORARTM – Kobe for Lebron? NO! Why would you trade a proven champion vs someone who
has never won anything? Leave the Lakers alone the way they are.
(06) WALLACE - I share your passionate defend of Kobe. These pundits think after 3 wins in a row after Kobe sat down to nurse his injuries, this team has a better chance of winning the championship! I said to all of you a few weeks ago, without Kobe, this team will not win a Western Conference Finals let alone the NBA Finals.
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN - . I've never seen such an infestation of no-nothing morons. Euthanasia is too kind. Hang them on a gallows constructed in front of Staples Center so we can stone them. Who the hell are all you people? Where did you come from? Disciples, friends, and relatives of Ted Green? Or does Ted have 87 email addresses?
(08) VMAN - Again, playoff basketball Kobe is historically different from reg season Kobe. He'll come back doin' all the things mentioned in the article... as he's done and rarely gets credit for. AND btw, Lebron, DWade, Coach K et al, deferred to Kobe in the game that would be unthinkable to lose. Given similar circumstances, ya think Pau and Lamar are thinkin' gimme the ball and get the hell outa the way? When you can do it all, the hard part is deciding when to do what. Kobe will fit right in when he gets back.
(09) DJ - Couple quick things. Do you all remember the Gold Medal game? Watch the last quarter (or last 8-10 minutes of the game). No Kobe, no Gold!
(10) DAVE M. - Justa, I agree about the recent trend here on the blog. I don't think it's limited to Kobe however. I've noticed an increase in nastiness in general, whether aimed at players, coaches or those who post here. On the one hand, there's still plenty of great stuff to read and I have the utmost admiration for way too many bloggers to single out by name. On the other hand, the water seems to keep getting deeper and murkier.
(11) HOBBITMAGE - All of the Kobe haters focus on the number of shots Kobe has taken and they forget the rest. Call a spade a spade. You can cherry pick your 3 games where LO has shot the ball well while we play "team" ball & I can cherry pick 3 games
where we couldn't play "team" ball because our players couldn't shoot
a dead fish in a barrel.
(12) MITCH R. - I am amazed at how many idiots occupy this blog. Yeah, blame Kobe, the guy who has been instrumental in four NBA championships for other players shortcomings. Brilliant. No, he is not perfect. Yes, there are times when he overshoots. He is still in the top two in the game at the very least.
(13) TSPHERE - A further remind is the anecdote at the first team meeting to start training camp of the 2007-2008 season, where the hapless Lakers were wondering if Kobe wasn't going to be traded and absolutely nobody believed in the Lakers' future. Kobe stood up and said, "I'm Kobe Bryant and I'm here to win a championship". 9 months later they were in the finals, which they actually could have won, but for a psychological shock caused by seeing Pierce in a wheelchair in game 1 and an inexplicable meltdown in game 4. (Concerning Pierce in a wheelchair, something similar happened the following year when Yao was declared out for the remainder of the playoffs and the Lakers suddenly forgot how to beat a diminished team they were already dominating).
(14) MAYOR OF KOBE TOWN - Interesting line of thought, but completely wrong. Another in a long line of Kobe haters trying to get his 15 minutes. Where is the article questioning why Kobe's teammates didn't bother to play with this much effort and heart when Kobe was on the floor? Where is the article calling out the rest of the team for being lazy and relying too much on Kobe and only stepping up to play hard when he goes down for a few games?
(15) HEH8MEN1 - As a few astute commenters have intimated- play HARD and HUNGRY when the Mamba's in the PIT; and they'll ALL get FED.
(16) C-ROD - Ok, I'm tired of hearing this argument about how good the Lakers are withouth Kobe. What folks fail to mention is the number of times the "bench mob" when given minutes, come into the game and blow the Lakers' lead. This has happened countles times, frankly this wouldn't inspire me to trust them. The difference now is that the "bench mob" is solely responsible for scoring etc. they don't have Kobe to come in and clean up their mess. I mean let's get real, I haven't seen Sasha, prior to these last 3 games, come in and play like a professional and I think that's the KEY here these men are professionls getting paid good money to practice, train and be ready to play when called on. How many of us wait idly at our post in our respective jobs waiting for our lead/supervisor to be out in order for us to step up?! Give me a break.
(17) STANLEY WOODS - What an absolutely pathetic blog post. Kobe is the most unappreciated athlete in all of sports, and for the home paper to write such drivel about the reigning Finals MVP is quite honestly a joke. So the Lakers won 3 games (1 of which against Portland that was playing without Brandon Roy or Greg Oden, an old Spurs team that hasn't been playing well in weeks, and against Utah (their best win) that has no center to guard against Pau). Also remember, Kobe has not resigned and can test the free agency this summer. Are you trying to drive him away? What would you write about then? Lamar's candy? Maybe about MannyWoods post-roid decline? This Kobe led team was in first place when he sat down, even after playing his all through injuries, and carried the team on his back when Pau missed 17 games to start. How about Nov. 1st through the 12th. they won 6 games in a row, WITHOUT PAU GASOL, and Kobe scoring very efficiently in the post on over 50% shooting. (Once Pau and Bynum came back, there was no more room for him to play in the post, and so he moved back to the perimeter where he ultimately got re-injured) OR, how about November 17th to December 11th, where they went UNDEFEATED for 3 weeks WITHOUT PAU, and Kobe was the NBA Player of the Month Oh yeah, one more important thing that I have learned over the years from reading the internet: As soon as someone says. " don't get me wrong I am the biggest Kobe fan in the world" I immediately know they're not.
(18) PSYCORP - WHY CAN'T THE LAKERS PLAY HUSTLING LOCK-DOWN DEFENSE LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, WITH OR WITHOUT KOBE?
(19) JOHN LAKERS - Dont tell kobe what he should do TED GREEN and i dont know you either, do kobe know you? so if we breakdown all the 51 games played this season with kobe one by one, we should held liable all the lakers player who are lazy, cant make shots, cant make free throws at crunch time, cant rebound, push around by bigs of other teams, cant make layups, too many to mention, kobe is not perfect but i saw all the lakers game this season, he would average 8 assist a game if his teammates make those easy shots he dishes, now the lakers is successful without him on three games and THE TRADE KOBE is the discussion now, he should fit himself like he was from D LEAGUE to the lakers, wow kobe is the smartest of all the lakers, i hate to say this but pau is pushing kobe under the lakers org, DID PAU hear anything pau from kobe if he made mistakes, NO only "you are the most skilled player in the nba", kobe have graduate from all of this kind of issue, this should be an issue at all, how about we right FISHER CANT GUARD other guards, LAMARS inconsistency, PAU high TO AND FLOPPING
(20) CHUCK - Instead of worrying if Kobe learned anything about his team, maybe you should ask one simple question; why did his team choose these 3 games to play with passion, hustle and aggresiveness. Why did it take an injury to Kobe for them to wake up and realize they need to play hard every game, with or without Kobe. You can't have it two ways, you can't complain about Kobe taking the majority of the shots, yet sit there and watch him bail you out time and time again. One other little thing, I see how you left the fact that Bynum has been missing for these 3 games as well, yet you didn't seem to mention the fact that the Lakers are a better team with him. Nice job Teddy!
(21) LAKERS PRIDE - So, where are all these new named LakersBlog "fans" suddenly sprouting out from?? Looks like they're all ardent BSPN/media followers, who can't stand the thought and sight of Kobe's greatness. Once Kobe is down and Lakers play, all those trolls come here and start croaking and throwing trash on Kobe and spewing their hatred on him. So guys where were you all when we were winning, thanks to Kobe?? Where were you, when the "rest of the team" was stinking wen Kobe was on the bench taking a 2-min break. Why did PJ had to re-insert Kobe innumerable times late in the 4th qtr, to save the game?? Why could not this "team" play "team ball" and not let the double digit lead dwindle to a one-possession game??? That is Kobe's fault too?? Is he ball-hogging even when he's not on the field?? So, stop the crap that we're good without Kobe and all such stuff. Enjoy the wins when they come w/o Kobe, coz the opponents are not going to remain the same forever!
(21) : ZairaAmaterasu - trying to' assume Kobe's feelings and projects. Without knowing what he's keen at. Kobe dies to' win RINGS man. He doesn't need to' hear from you about that. He is always focused on that always. And about Lamar, and Pau and their skill, I remember like a month ago whom else??? Ah, yeah... KOBE pushing them and praising them saying they Are so talented they can do all. Hardly the praise of somebody blind or dismissive of them both, I think. But all this is wasted breath.
Keep the anti Kobe routine.Must be' the new Black on catwalks, right? This article is ridicolous and makes me feel in one of BSPN garbage cans online.
(22) MAMBA24 – IF THIS CRAP CONTINUES I SAY WE KOBE FANS PERFORM A MASS EXODUS TO FAITHS’S BLOG
(23) AZTRONUT - The Lakers apparently play better team basketball without Kobe Bryant." I'm calling BS on this supposedly "reasoned" response. Let me tell you why; in statistics, and by that I mean mathematical statistics, the minimum sample size for a significance test is 30, by convention. That's right 30, at minimum. You've got 3 samples you're working with and on that basis you call your leap of extrapolation "reasoned"...BS! So, please tell us all what the basis is for your claim that this is a "reasoned response" without resorting to the fallacy that 3 samples allows you to claim your analysis results in a conclusion of any significance. I believe that "reactionary" or "purely impulsive" is a much better description of your analysis, and are apropo in characterizing the resulting fit of your conclusion to the available data.
(24) GLAC100 - Kobe does ball hog but its because for most of this season he's been the only Laker on constant attack mode. Whats he supposed to do when vs Cleveland the ball goes into Gasol at critical points and he wusses out with a weak ass attempt? When Bynum checks out for entire games at a time? Or when vs the Bobcats, N Mohammed drops 23 pts and 17 rebounds agains Gasol and Bynum? N Mohammed!!!!
(25) TOM - Kobe has won 4 NBA title his way. Continue doing it. When you lose someone like Kobe or Jordan (when he went to pursue baseball), the thing that happens is that the team is still good (in the triangle). Wasn't the Bulls a horrible referee call away from the NBA Finals? Jordan won three more titles when he came back.
(26) FEARLESS - Did you totally forget about the games earlier this season where the Lakers were totally dominant and efficient and flowing when Pau was out? Why have you not also written a diatribe that says the Lakers player better team ball without Pau? The sample size of non-Pau domination is roughly 5 times as large as the sample size of non-Kobe domination. Though I have no idea of who you are, your first impression gives you no credibility. BTW, Kobe shot better without Pau than Pau is shoting without Kobe. What does that mean?
(27) KOBEFAN IN CUPERTINO - "And why, in the last four minutes of every single close Laker game, must Kobe seemingly take 80% of the shots in crunch time? Or is it 90%? " - If he gives the ball to LO, he'll either clank the rim or blow the lay-up. Worse, he might get fouled and miss one/both FTs. - If he gives to Pau - same, he'd get cold feet/hands and fumble the ball or miss FTs (Cavs game) Also, find out and tell me which team lets the 3rd/2nd best player to take the shots when the game is on the line??
(28) I-HEART-LA - I dont care if its a blowout or a 1 point at the buzzer win... a win is still a win. Big picture, kobe doesnt need to change his game that much, other players just have to be consistent with what they do. If you want a passing kobe, then what youre getting is Lamar v2.0. Id raher have the killer instinct kobe anytime.
(29) KOBEFORLIFE - Don't ever forget-Kobe-is and will always be the GOAT! Don't you know he organized this whole i'm injured thing-so LamPaul and others would show some B@lls. How do you think it feels when he gives his Heart and Soul in every game and the rest are happy getting a check and just trying every other play or two? He's showing them that they could do it-sometimes-even without him. But they need to show fortitude and dauntlessness every night every time! The Mamba does. Don't ever wish him to go away-don't ever badmouth him-never doubt-have faith and courage that our Hero will always come true, will always prevail! Long Live the Mamba!!!!!!!!!
(30) LONGTIMELAKERFAN

hobbitmage,

I understand most of the points you make, and agree with a few as well.

However, I disagree with this...

"If we don't start Bynum he won't play defense [ paraphrase ].
Bynum's play has made it *VERY* clear/noticeable that if he's not the
focus of the offense he won't play defense."

I would very much appreciate it if you would direct me to PJs comments in this regard with a link or somesuch. I have not noticed Drew's defensive intensity lag when he isn't included in the offense, which happens quite often BTW.

What I have seen, is that he will tend to play defense overcautiously whenever he feels that the refs are picking on him. I can understand his frustration sometimes, when he makes a good defensive play on the interior and the officials make one of their patented anticipation calls because they happen to be more deferential to the player he supposedly fouled than they are towards him. He needs to understand that he will eventually gain that same deference from the refs himself as he gains more experience and confidence under the basket, and continues to make the proper plays defensively, regardless of the outcome.

I agree with you that he isn't as aggressive under the basket as he needs to be right now. Not defensively necessarily, but definitely in terms of boxing out and crashing the boards. I believe that he does a better job of boxing out than you imply...

"Bynum has *NOT* boxed out to get a rebound."

which sounds a bit like a universal specifier to me. However, I do agree that he needs to work on it.

IMHO, this is all a result of Drew's lack of confidence in his body holding up to the banging and jostling that goes on under the basket. I thought that he would have gained most of that back by now but he hasn't, and his latest minor injury setbacks can't be helping. Only time will tell if his body actually deserves the level of confidence he needs to give it to succeed, but the longer he goes without another devastating physical breakdown the more his confidence will grow.

It's not just that he doesn't get in there and push and shove right now, because he does do that occasionally, but more that he seems afraid to fully elevate in a crowd. Drew actually has fantastic leaping ability, especially for a big man, but he has rarely deployed it with complete abandon this season.

I'm still waiting for him to show he's fully recovered from the trauma of the past two years by exhibiting some reckless abandon in the paint. He needs to understand that the best way to keep from getting injured is simply to play the game at full tilt. Frantic activity has a way of alerting the body to the potential dangers from unnatural movements and motions in a way that deliberateness does not.

All that being said, I still believe that Drew will eventually gain back the confidence in his body that his recent injuries have shaken. When he does, and it's a process so I don't mean to imply that it hasn't been building up to this point, and starts playing with more recklessness and physical force, I believe he will again be ready to be as good as he can be.

He seems to be pacing himself right now, because I feel fairly certain that his primary goal is to be make it through the season and be healthy for the playoffs. Perhaps that is where he intends to cut it loose, at least that's my hope. Of course, the sooner it happens the better but make no mistake about it, it will happen.

I usually just lurk in the background, but after reading all the posts these past few days I wanted to post my opinion.

I think some of these Laker fans just want to argue. I mean, the Lakers have the second best record, one of the best (if not the best) players, just blew out three of the top west contenders without the best player, so what is wrong? I am sure most of the other teams would love to have the problems that the Lakers have.

You may not want it, but here is my take on Kobe shooting so much. I don't mind him shooting a lot, but once he starts the game 2 for 10 or 4 for 15, if he is going to shoot why doesn't he drive to the basket and try to get easier shots instead of keep trying turning threes or behind the backboard shots? Drive to the hoop, maybe he can kick it out, get some free throws, or get a dunk. It might get his shooting kick started. It's like when a shooter gets hot, you don't mind him jacking up a three to do a heat check. But if he is not hitting them, then maybe he should stop. That's why I have liked what Sasha has been doing lately, even though he wants to shoot he hasn't been hitting them lately so he has been passing more. He started hitting them recently so I can live with him taking a little more shots.

Edwin Gueco,

"Yes M/M i did and I also read the post of Aztronaut.
...
As you will read my posts, I just air some opinions, give some other news to ponder and if there are any contradicting opinions to it I seldom delve furthermore to prove my point that the other guy is wrong. We have other best use of our time than massaging our own egos..."

I find it difficult to interpret that statement as anything other than I swipe at me, since I doubt that you are accusing MM of "massaging his own ego" and I know you wouldn't place that moniker on yourself.

Here's the deal, when you complain about the rabble overrunning your precious blog and implore MM to do something about it, and then turn around and claim that you never try and prove anyone else wrong, that is called hypocrisy!

I'm not here to massage my own ego, despite what you may think. Please try to show more respect for others in your future comments.

rage777,

"why doesn't he drive to the basket and try to get easier shots instead of keep trying turning threes or behind the backboard shots?"

True, he can do those drives when he was not injured. Ever since he got injured he has no lift because of ankle injury. He avoids harming his injured index finger so his drives towards the basket are limited, the same with his defense he frequently uses his left hand which results to unnecessary fouls. Anyway, Kobe is gambler and gamer, he will never surrender but try other ways of his own which sometimes hurt the team's teamwork. On other times, he helped this team win by a point Well, in the end PJ and Kobe had meeting of minds that led to his rest.

After that short observation, why other fans make a lot of hullabaloo on his upsides and downsides? i don't know. I think one explanation is enough, Lakers are winning, Kobe is resting and PJ, the Coach is satisfied with the results.

Geez, Walton was a great player, one of the greatest college players ever. It was shame he had so many injuries as a pro. But as a commentator, bleh.

(24th) Psalm,
Kobe Bryant is my shephard I shall not want
He leadeth the Lakers to their 5th title
He annointeth the start of Dynasty 4
Yeah tho I face Boston or cleveland in the Finals I fear no defeat
For Kobe Bean Bryant the Black Mamba is with the Lakers
His 4 titles, 12 all star selections, 7 all defensive selections, 3 scoring titles, 3 All-star mvp’s, season mvp, Finals MVp, 81 points, scoring more than an entire team 50 points in 6 consecutive games comfort The lakers
Surely dynasties and titles shall follow the mamba all the days of his NBA career
And he will be a Laker for Life Forever

astronut,

ask and you shall receive.

http://tinyurl.com/yjhmwvv

excerpt:

Considering Bynum’s lack of footspeed, he can become a dump truck trying to chase the IndyCars when he has to play with the Lakers’ tempo-pushing second unit. He’s a score-first player, and if his points go down, it’s highly likely so does his commitment to defense. There is a very real risk that you lose the best of Bynum if you bench him and shake his confidence.

Please stop with all the trade talk.

We have a team that has proven it can win. WE have good chemistry going into the break, regardless of what we read on here.

Continuity will become great in the second half of the season with all our players healthy.

Go back to the playoffs last season. The Orlando Magic made a Great run in the East. The Magic beat some quality teams and were playing great ball when they reached the Finals. What happened next was continuity error. They plugged Jameer back into the line-up and the flow of the offense was lost. Not to discredit our Lakers great play, it was a wonderful performance on their part. ALL CONTINUITY was lost when Alston was benched.

Lets keep this team intact and the continuity becomes stronger.

LETS GO LAKERS!!!

Hey guys we got a new post up with links.

MM

I'm not that frightened of the C's trading Ray-Ray for Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison.

Caron will give them a slight improvement in offense, but not much. He's only shooting 42% this season, and only 26% on his 3 pointers. Ray-Ray's biggest threat was from the 3-point line. And neither Butler nor Jamison (34%) make up for the loss of that threat.

With Ray-Ray gone, it'd give opponents a little more leeway to sag into the lane to prevent Paul Pierce from slashing into the lane. And give them more leeway to double team KG (or Perkins) if they post up.

My guess is, they'd start Rondo-Butler-Pierce-KG-Perkins, and add Jamison to their bench arsenal. While that sounds good on paper, Jamison's not as good a defender as Sheed, or even Fat-Baby Davis. So while it might get them a few more points off the bench, it means the bench will be GIVING UP a few more points as well.

The best thing about such a trade is that Cleveland would probably crap their pants and do something stoopid. Remember when the Lakers got Gasol and suddenly the GMs of Dallas and Phoenix went all Chicken Little and made dumb trades that made their teams worse? I could see Cleveland doing the same thing if Boston made the trade for Butler & Jamison.

Let's say that after that, Cleveland breaks down and trades Ilgauskas and JJ Hickson for Troy Murphy. Just like the C's, they'd be trading defense for offense. And what if Indiana decides not to waive Ilgauskas and let him re-join the Cavs? Then suddenly they've given up TWO quality defending bigs with some offensive skills for one weak defending big with good offensive skills. That could cripple them as much as Shaq going to Phoenix did the Suns.

So go ahead Danny. Make your little trade. The Lakers will be waiting for you in the finals.

rage777,

"I think some of these Laker fans just want to argue. "

I'm not sure all of them are actually "fans."

Hey, man. It would be nice if you posted more often. I enjoyed what you had to say.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Mark G,

"Walton was a great player, one of the greatest college players ever. It was shame he had so many injuries as a pro. But as a commentator, bleh."

I respectfully disagree. I personally thought that he was the best basketball commentator around at the time he was forced to retire from that gig because of his back ailments. Of course, I did think that he was horrid at it when he started out, but I've never seen anyone else make such dramatic improvements in both their delivery and analyses as he did over those years that he worked on TV.

This also helps answer the question posed about him coaching the Clips. Because if he's not healthy enough to endure the "rigors" of an NBA commentator position then he's certainly not healthy enough to be an NBA coach, or even an assistant coach.

Also, even though his playing career was cut short and severely limited throughout by chronic injuries, I still think that he was one of the best NBA centers to ever step on the court.

I seldom delve furthermore to prove my point that the other guy is wrong. We have other best use of our time than massaging our own egos. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion so let us live it there and live happily ever after as Laker fans.

Posted by: Edwin Gueco | February 12, 2010 at 11:12 AM

I liked you're sentiment there. I'm not sure if this what you're getting at, but it sent my thoughts in this direction. This is the thing that disappoints me about blogs/boards in general. So much of commenting is really about ego: "look at me, I just said something brilliant," or "I pwned the board." Then you can get the back and forth, pwn and repwn. It seems like a lot of the dialogue is a waste of cyberspace.

hobbitmage,

Thanks for the link, now I guess I'm gonna have to do some analysis...damn! Anyway, I'll have to catch up with you later on this, probably inside a post further on down the road.

However, it does seem to me on first glance that the "excerpt" you included above was not a PJ quote, but I'll need to verify that when I read the article. If you recall, you made the claim that PJ made the remarks that you quoted in your first comment in this thread and I will try to verify that to my own satisfaction if I can, and then I'll get back to you.

Aztronaut,

When I mentioned "massaging one's ego" I am not referring to you or to M/M. I'm talking about myself of going further to prove a point.

i apologize in advance if you misinterpreted that I'm personally attacking you and or anybody in this blog. As you can see, nobody appreciate all these prolonged conversations on one player or any player that leads nowhere. However, if you enjoy that kind of atmosphere of Socratic reasoning ad infinitum, then continue what you are doing, why do you have to explain to me what you are doing?

Mark G,

"It seems like a lot of the dialogue is a waste of cyberspace."

Why participate at all if that is how you feel? If you don't want folks to respond to your comments then you should say so, and then they probably won't. I apologize if I was one of those who had the nerve to bother you in such a manner. I will try to remember not to attempt any further such dialogs in the future. G'day!

Edwin Gueco,

"why do you have to explain to me what you are doing?"

I didn't, at least not beyond saying that I'm not here to massage my own ego, which you are now claiming you directed at yourself. While I find that a bit disingenuous, I don't really wish to argue this point any further so I will accept your explanation and move on. Thank you for your mostly civil response.

*
I SUPPORT KOBE BRYANT – BANDWAGON
*
(01) JUSTANOTHERMAMBAFAN – OWNER - I am completely disgusted at the State of the Blog recently. We have been infested with a strain of Kobe-Hater-itis that is not only contagious but especially virulent. The blog needs to be innoculated against such an agressive disease ASAP.
(02) CALIPHILOSOPHER – DRIVER - Justa - Thank you. Really, thank you for that.
(03) SEGEBOY(THE SHERIFF) - Dude seriously? What you think this is an espn blog? Save this crap for the birds cuz this here is mamba county. Kapish. Finals mvp, go by that, give him the benefit of the doubt based on that. Take a step back and think to yourself, 2 consecutive a. as some have mentioned, why not look at the other players and challenge them to be this aggressive when kobe's back and not revert to asking him for bailout shots. If memory serves me right this was the mindset of last year's squad
(04) JOHN MAILA – RIDING SHOTGUN - leave kobe alone and dont post here haters
(05) HECTORARTM – Kobe for Lebron? NO! Why would you trade a proven champion vs someone who
has never won anything? Leave the Lakers alone the way they are.
(06) WALLACE - I share your passionate defend of Kobe. These pundits think after 3 wins in a row after Kobe sat down to nurse his injuries, this team has a better chance of winning the championship! I said to all of you a few weeks ago, without Kobe, this team will not win a Western Conference Finals let alone the NBA Finals.
(07) RICK FRIEDMAN - . I've never seen such an infestation of no-nothing morons. Euthanasia is too kind. Hang them on a gallows constructed in front of Staples Center so we can stone them. Who the hell are all you people? Where did you come from? Disciples, friends, and relatives of Ted Green? Or does Ted have 87 email addresses?
(08) VMAN - Again, playoff basketball Kobe is historically different from reg season Kobe. He'll come back doin' all the things mentioned in the article... as he's done and rarely gets credit for. AND btw, Lebron, DWade, Coach K et al, deferred to Kobe in the game that would be unthinkable to lose. Given similar circumstances, ya think Pau and Lamar are thinkin' gimme the ball and get the hell outa the way? When you can do it all, the hard part is deciding when to do what. Kobe will fit right in when he gets back.
(09) DJ - Couple quick things. Do you all remember the Gold Medal game? Watch the last quarter (or last 8-10 minutes of the game). No Kobe, no Gold!
(10) DAVE M. - Justa, I agree about the recent trend here on the blog. I don't think it's limited to Kobe however. I've noticed an increase in nastiness in general, whether aimed at players, coaches or those who post here. On the one hand, there's still plenty of great stuff to read and I have the utmost admiration for way too many bloggers to single out by name. On the other hand, the water seems to keep getting deeper and murkier.
(11) HOBBITMAGE - All of the Kobe haters focus on the number of shots Kobe has taken and they forget the rest. Call a spade a spade. You can cherry pick your 3 games where LO has shot the ball well while we play "team" ball & I can cherry pick 3 games
where we couldn't play "team" ball because our players couldn't shoot
a dead fish in a barrel.
(12) MITCH R. - I am amazed at how many idiots occupy this blog. Yeah, blame Kobe, the guy who has been instrumental in four NBA championships for other players shortcomings. Brilliant. No, he is not perfect. Yes, there are times when he overshoots. He is still in the top two in the game at the very least.
(13) TSPHERE - A further remind is the anecdote at the first team meeting to start training camp of the 2007-2008 season, where the hapless Lakers were wondering if Kobe wasn't going to be traded and absolutely nobody believed in the Lakers' future. Kobe stood up and said, "I'm Kobe Bryant and I'm here to win a championship". 9 months later they were in the finals, which they actually could have won, but for a psychological shock caused by seeing Pierce in a wheelchair in game 1 and an inexplicable meltdown in game 4. (Concerning Pierce in a wheelchair, something similar happened the following year when Yao was declared out for the remainder of the playoffs and the Lakers suddenly forgot how to beat a diminished team they were already dominating).
(14) MAYOR OF KOBE TOWN - Interesting line of thought, but completely wrong. Another in a long line of Kobe haters trying to get his 15 minutes. Where is the article questioning why Kobe's teammates didn't bother to play with this much effort and heart when Kobe was on the floor? Where is the article calling out the rest of the team for being lazy and relying too much on Kobe and only stepping up to play hard when he goes down for a few games?
(15) HEH8MEN1 - As a few astute commenters have intimated- play HARD and HUNGRY when the Mamba's in the PIT; and they'll ALL get FED.
(16) C-ROD - Ok, I'm tired of hearing this argument about how good the Lakers are withouth Kobe. What folks fail to mention is the number of times the "bench mob" when given minutes, come into the game and blow the Lakers' lead. This has happened countles times, frankly this wouldn't inspire me to trust them. The difference now is that the "bench mob" is solely responsible for scoring etc. they don't have Kobe to come in and clean up their mess. I mean let's get real, I haven't seen Sasha, prior to these last 3 games, come in and play like a professional and I think that's the KEY here these men are professionls getting paid good money to practice, train and be ready to play when called on. How many of us wait idly at our post in our respective jobs waiting for our lead/supervisor to be out in order for us to step up?! Give me a break.
(17) STANLEY WOODS - What an absolutely pathetic blog post. Kobe is the most unappreciated athlete in all of sports, and for the home paper to write such drivel about the reigning Finals MVP is quite honestly a joke. So the Lakers won 3 games (1 of which against Portland that was playing without Brandon Roy or Greg Oden, an old Spurs team that hasn't been playing well in weeks, and against Utah (their best win) that has no center to guard against Pau). Also remember, Kobe has not resigned and can test the free agency this summer. Are you trying to drive him away? What would you write about then? Lamar's candy? Maybe about MannyWoods post-roid decline? This Kobe led team was in first place when he sat down, even after playing his all through injuries, and carried the team on his back when Pau missed 17 games to start. How about Nov. 1st through the 12th. they won 6 games in a row, WITHOUT PAU GASOL, and Kobe scoring very efficiently in the post on over 50% shooting. (Once Pau and Bynum came back, there was no more room for him to play in the post, and so he moved back to the perimeter where he ultimately got re-injured) OR, how about November 17th to December 11th, where they went UNDEFEATED for 3 weeks WITHOUT PAU, and Kobe was the NBA Player of the Month Oh yeah, one more important thing that I have learned over the years from reading the internet: As soon as someone says. " don't get me wrong I am the biggest Kobe fan in the world" I immediately know they're not.
(18) PSYCORP - WHY CAN'T THE LAKERS PLAY HUSTLING LOCK-DOWN DEFENSE LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME, WITH OR WITHOUT KOBE?
(19) JOHN LAKERS - Dont tell kobe what he should do TED GREEN and i dont know you either, do kobe know you? so if we breakdown all the 51 games played this season with kobe one by one, we should held liable all the lakers player who are lazy, cant make shots, cant make free throws at crunch time, cant rebound, push around by bigs of other teams, cant make layups, too many to mention, kobe is not perfect but i saw all the lakers game this season, he would average 8 assist a game if his teammates make those easy shots he dishes, now the lakers is successful without him on three games and THE TRADE KOBE is the discussion now, he should fit himself like he was from D LEAGUE to the lakers, wow kobe is the smartest of all the lakers, i hate to say this but pau is pushing kobe under the lakers org, DID PAU hear anything pau from kobe if he made mistakes, NO only "you are the most skilled player in the nba", kobe have graduate from all of this kind of issue, this should be an issue at all, how about we right FISHER CANT GUARD other guards, LAMARS inconsistency, PAU high TO AND FLOPPING
(20) CHUCK - Instead of worrying if Kobe learned anything about his team, maybe you should ask one simple question; why did his team choose these 3 games to play with passion, hustle and aggresiveness. Why did it take an injury to Kobe for them to wake up and realize they need to play hard every game, with or without Kobe. You can't have it two ways, you can't complain about Kobe taking the majority of the shots, yet sit there and watch him bail you out time and time again. One other little thing, I see how you left the fact that Bynum has been missing for these 3 games as well, yet you didn't seem to mention the fact that the Lakers are a better team with him. Nice job Teddy!
(21) LAKERS PRIDE - So, where are all these new named LakersBlog "fans" suddenly sprouting out from?? Looks like they're all ardent BSPN/media followers, who can't stand the thought and sight of Kobe's greatness. Once Kobe is down and Lakers play, all those trolls come here and start croaking and throwing trash on Kobe and spewing their hatred on him. So guys where were you all when we were winning, thanks to Kobe?? Where were you, when the "rest of the team" was stinking wen Kobe was on the bench taking a 2-min break. Why did PJ had to re-insert Kobe innumerable times late in the 4th qtr, to save the game?? Why could not this "team" play "team ball" and not let the double digit lead dwindle to a one-possession game??? That is Kobe's fault too?? Is he ball-hogging even when he's not on the field?? So, stop the crap that we're good without Kobe and all such stuff. Enjoy the wins when they come w/o Kobe, coz the opponents are not going to remain the same forever!
(21) : ZairaAmaterasu - trying to' assume Kobe's feelings and projects. Without knowing what he's keen at. Kobe dies to' win RINGS man. He doesn't need to' hear from you about that. He is always focused on that always. And about Lamar, and Pau and their skill, I remember like a month ago whom else??? Ah, yeah... KOBE pushing them and praising them saying they Are so talented they can do all. Hardly the praise of somebody blind or dismissive of them both, I think. But all this is wasted breath.
Keep the anti Kobe routine.Must be' the new Black on catwalks, right? This article is ridicolous and makes me feel in one of BSPN garbage cans online.
(22) MAMBA24 – IF THIS CRAP CONTINUES I SAY WE KOBE FANS PERFORM A MASS EXODUS TO FAITHS’S BLOG
(23) AZTRONUT - The Lakers apparently play better team basketball without Kobe Bryant." I'm calling BS on this supposedly "reasoned" response. Let me tell you why; in statistics, and by that I mean mathematical statistics, the minimum sample size for a significance test is 30, by convention. That's right 30, at minimum. You've got 3 samples you're working with and on that basis you call your leap of extrapolation "reasoned"...BS! So, please tell us all what the basis is for your claim that this is a "reasoned response" without resorting to the fallacy that 3 samples allows you to claim your analysis results in a conclusion of any significance. I believe that "reactionary" or "purely impulsive" is a much better description of your analysis, and are apropo in characterizing the resulting fit of your conclusion to the available data.
(24) GLAC100 - Kobe does ball hog but its because for most of this season he's been the only Laker on constant attack mode. Whats he supposed to do when vs Cleveland the ball goes into Gasol at critical points and he wusses out with a weak ass attempt? When Bynum checks out for entire games at a time? Or when vs the Bobcats, N Mohammed drops 23 pts and 17 rebounds agains Gasol and Bynum? N Mohammed!!!!
(25) TOM - Kobe has won 4 NBA title his way. Continue doing it. When you lose someone like Kobe or Jordan (when he went to pursue baseball), the thing that happens is that the team is still good (in the triangle). Wasn't the Bulls a horrible referee call away from the NBA Finals? Jordan won three more titles when he came back.
(26) FEARLESS - Did you totally forget about the games earlier this season where the Lakers were totally dominant and efficient and flowing when Pau was out? Why have you not also written a diatribe that says the Lakers player better team ball without Pau? The sample size of non-Pau domination is roughly 5 times as large as the sample size of non-Kobe domination. Though I have no idea of who you are, your first impression gives you no credibility. BTW, Kobe shot better without Pau than Pau is shoting without Kobe. What does that mean?
(27) KOBEFAN IN CUPERTINO - "And why, in the last four minutes of every single close Laker game, must Kobe seemingly take 80% of the shots in crunch time? Or is it 90%? " - If he gives the ball to LO, he'll either clank the rim or blow the lay-up. Worse, he might get fouled and miss one/both FTs. - If he gives to Pau - same, he'd get cold feet/hands and fumble the ball or miss FTs (Cavs game) Also, find out and tell me which team lets the 3rd/2nd best player to take the shots when the game is on the line??
(28) I-HEART-LA - I dont care if its a blowout or a 1 point at the buzzer win... a win is still a win. Big picture, kobe doesnt need to change his game that much, other players just have to be consistent with what they do. If you want a passing kobe, then what youre getting is Lamar v2.0. Id raher have the killer instinct kobe anytime.
(29) KOBEFORLIFE - Don't ever forget-Kobe-is and will always be the GOAT! Don't you know he organized this whole i'm injured thing-so LamPaul and others would show some B@lls. How do you think it feels when he gives his Heart and Soul in every game and the rest are happy getting a check and just trying every other play or two? He's showing them that they could do it-sometimes-even without him. But they need to show fortitude and dauntlessness every night every time! The Mamba does. Don't ever wish him to go away-don't ever badmouth him-never doubt-have faith and courage that our Hero will always come true, will always prevail! Long Live the Mamba!!!!!!!!!
(30) LONGTIMELAKERFAN - Those infected need to say 10 Hail Kobe's and a few Our Phil's as soon as is
>>>humanly possible.
(31) JON K - Please put me on the "I support Kobe Bryant Bandwagon."When Kobe gets back we're going to tear the guts out of every team that dares defy us.
(32) DFISH - This Blog should be officially closed. Who are these no nothings that want to get rid of Bynum ! Kobe ! and Gasol !
(33) MANDO - Now that the Lakers have won 3 games, a lot of people are saying Kobe has been the problem. Actually, when Kobe played with Lamar and Pau as center last year, they were unstoppable. I think the problem is Bynum clogging the middle, giving little room for Pau to operate. And truthfully, Lamar is better as a starter than off the bench.
(34) LAKERTOM - Please put me on the I SUPPORT KOBE BRYANT BANDWAGON. Anybody who thinks that Kobe does not understand the importance of sharing the ball and playing a team game is dead wrong and disrespecting Kobe’s intelligence and his desire and understanding of what it takes to win.
(35) CHIC-N-STU - Lets keep this team intact and the continuity becomes stronger.
(36) LAKER-IN-BC - All of these posts saying that people have been writing that the Lakers would be better without Kobe are delusional. They are delusional about what people have actually been writing about. Give it a rest already.
(37) CESS - i will surely miss him. i wanted him to dominate the all-star game. but still, this is for the greater good. so i say to the rest of the league, prepare for a recharged kobe bryant!
(38) DJ855 - In the Olympics championship game against Spain, when the US ABSOLUTELY needed a basket, only Kobe, NOT Lecrab or DWade, was the only one that was able to get that basket. He just has this incredible ability to will himself to make that shot when it is ABSOLUTELY needed. There are just a few players in the history of sports that have that ability.
(39) DJ - I'll have to admit that without KB24 in the All-Star game, well, it just won't be that interesting to me.
(40)

aztronut, WTF, I was responding to Edwins post because it struck a chord with me. I wasn't following the back and forth between you and Edwin, if there was one. My post wasn't aimed at you, and I really didn't think we had a problem. Anyone who loves Jerry West is alright with me normally.

It's just that at times, people just seem to blast away at each other, and the fighting becomes the main issue. I wasn't talking about just here, but blogs in general. I guess I feel sometimes it, the blogs, should more than that.

Why do I post here, because I'm a social animal, like everybody else. You're right, at some point I may just say screw it, and not post. I'm not there yet.

Having said that I still think my critique of blog squabbling is valid. Sorry if you don't agree.

aztronut, I don't know if this post comes out of order, so you might still be mad at me. Walton was great center, that Blazers team (in 76?) that came back against Philly in the finals, was a great team. Great series. Maurice Lucas was a MONSTER.
I have no idea where to rank Walton as a top Pro because his injuries affected his career so much. When he was healthy, he was like a Bill Russell, that could score. Did anyone shoot a better bank shot? Had he been healthy his whole career, I have no doubts he'd be up there with Kareem, Wilt, and Russell.

Mark G,

Sounds like you're ok with me responding, so I'll try again...

"I wasn't following the back and forth between you and Edwin, if there was one. My post wasn't aimed at you..."

Perhaps I'm overly sensitive today, everyone has their moments, but I was of course following my back and forth with Edwin. So when you used this...

""I pwned the board." Then you can get the back and forth, pwn and repwn."

as your primary source of "wasted dialog" it struck a chord with me, and not a good one. That's because as far as I'm aware, I'm the only one who has used those terms around here. In fact, I used it specifically the other day to complain about a new post going up after I had just submitted a rather long comment on the prior post.

Of course, it was only intended as a bit of self-deprecating humor but I realize that a lot of people don't grok my attempts at humor. Thus, in inferred that you were using that as an example of how I was "massaging my ego" so to speak.

Apparently I was wrong and for that I apologize again, a bit more sincerely this time. No worries, it's all good.

"Celtics are going for Caron and Jamieson for Ray Allen while Cavs are luring Richard Hamilton. What is the Lakers response?"


Trade the aging and injured (too many to count) Bryant before he signs a contract extension for 30 mil a year.


Lakers should not be in a position to be hold hostage by Kobe in years to come.


There are plenty of young talents out there to replace him with a line up of Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Odom, already in place.


Trade Kobe now please..

for Tyreke Evans and Kevin Martin.

Or Kobe for Kevin Durant and James Harden..

Or Kobe for Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo.

Or Kobe for Kwame, Prince and Stuckey

Or Kobe Brandon Roy and Rudy Fernandez.

Or Kobe for Rose and Deng.

One in replace of two big guards.


Jerry Buss, please do not give Kobe 30 mil a year contract extension... There are plenty of options... Please.


Thank you Kobe Bean Bryant for all your help and 4 rings. But it is time for Lakers to move on without you.


Lakers need to prepare for the era of Lebron James.


Kobe's era ended 3 games ago.


Let it be known with all mankind. All-star weekend Lebron is going to shine while Kobe sits injured and aging... Passing of the torch begins in year 2010 all-stars.


Kobe is done. 2000-2009


2010 starts the era of Lebron James.


Wake up jon k and slap your own face.


Kobe is done but not the Lakers.

Jerry Buss will find a way to battle Lebron James. Just like he found a way to battle Larry Bird. Just like he found a way to battle Tim Duncan.


Lakers unite!!!



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