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Caught in the Web: Trades dominate discussion as deadline looms

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The Lakers surely aren't eliciting headlines involving trade talks, like the Dallas Mavericks did, with their recent deal with Washington that brought Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson to the Mavericks in exchange for Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, James Singleton and Quinton Ross. Or how about the Clippers, who are trading veteran Marcus Camby for Portland forward Travis Outlaw, guard Steve Blake and some cash? Camby told The Times' Kevin Baxter on Monday he wanted to stay, and apparently his teammates wanted to keep hm around. One Clipper told Yahoo! Sports' Marc J. Spears, "“All the guys are upset because our best defensive player got traded basically for a backup point guard and money.”

Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak recently told The Times' Mike Bresnahan not to anticipate any significant trades (like say Amare Stoudemire). Kupchak told the same thing to Lakers.com's Mike Trudell, but added he is willing to make "tweaks" before Thursday's trade deadline.

The most often talked about "tweak" involves Chicago Bulls forward Kirk Hinrich, who wants to remain a Bull but as often been linked with the Lakers. The combinations appear wide-ranging, going from Jordan Farmar, Adam Morrison and Josh Powell (ESPN insider subscription required), to Shannon Brown and Morrison, to Luke Walton and Sasha Vujacic and a three-team trade in which Vujacic would ultimately land in Portland.

But there are complications with all those scenarios, namely involving salary cap implications. And there's also belief that the Lakers are fine with what they have, what with leading the Western Conference with a 41-13 record. Though acknowledging it as a problem, ESPN Los Angeles' Brian Kamenetzky explains why the Lakers' poor point guard play isn't as bad as it seems. The Orange County Register's Kevin Ding argues Vujacic could still provide value to the Lakers. And Forum Blue and Gold raises concerns on how any trade could disrupt team dynamics.

One thing is sure, though. Other teams are making trades to best position themselves to move up the NBA rankings and eventually unseat the defending league champions. Oh yeah, and another thing: Lakers guard Kobe Bryant and center Andrew Bynum will return Tuesday night against Golden State, a news item that would get buried during this time of year.

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Photo: Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak says he doesn't plan on making any "significant" trades as the Feb. 18 trade deadline looms. Credit: Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times

 
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Hey Toddguy

Aren't you the one who one time flat out stated farmar is the best pg in the entire league next to cp3? Was that u really? Cause if that was.. U should at least offer a written apology or run the risk of losing all credibility with that one foolish remark.

So are u sure u wanna call out kobe on this? Cause ur on another very slippery slope so proceed with caution

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(01) MAMBA24 - OWNER - May the force be with you and your pet.

what in the world did the LAT do to the posting section? is it previewing? is it posting? I dunno...

Repost? or posting for the first time?
- does anybody understand the Marcus Camby trade? As I understand it, Camby's contract expires at the end of the year yet the Clippers dump him for cash, trash (Outlaw) and a backup guard??? That's all they could get for him? Not even a draft pick?

Kwam - Preview is just to review your post for proofreading and formatting purposes. Post is when you're satisfied with everything you wrote and want it as published. Then I'll come in and approve the post.

Sorry for the confusion.

MM

We've always had problems with guarding PGs, but so has the entire league with the new rules in place.

With that being said, we should still make a trade to shore up our perimeter defense.

"I wanted to be called Joseph, just like my father. But he wouldn’t hear of it. He simply said: ‘Be yourself. The name is Kobe. It’s a great one.’ But my name is veal. Dig that?," he burst out laughing. - http://tinyurl.com/ycvwtza

I chuckled.

From the last post:

"Why don't you take a poll? Ask the fans what is most necessary to win
another championship: Offense or Defense?"


hobbitmage


Excellent suggestion..........Defense and rebounding wins championships!! The reason why there is so much emphasis on the triangle is because that is all Phil Jackson and Tex Winter ever talk about and that filters down to the reporters.


This offensive mindset is also reflected in the personel on the bench and recent draft choices. If your first thought was defense Like Popovich and Mike Brown........would you have Luke Walton on your team? Would you have drafted that chinese guy last year? Would Adam Morrison be on your team?

If you were defensive minded wouldn't you find more playing time for Mbenga and Powell? If you were defensive minded wouldn't Shannon Brown minutes increase and Derek Fisher's decrease?

If you were defensive and rebound minded would you have let DeJuan Blair get to the second round for the Spurs to pick up?

LET US PRAY
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Dear Lord, be with Jeanie and her doggie for today's surgery. May all be well with the little pup.
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AMEN!

We've always had problems with guarding PGs, but so has the entire league with the new rules in place.


Posted by: Lakers Nation | February 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM

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Exactly. Not even an All-Star defensive specialist PG like Gary 'The Glove' Payton could stop Tony Parker back then.

One way of slowing down the quick PG's is by making them work on defense. In the Triangle (it's sacred so it is spelled with an uppercase T), the PG typically waits in the wings to provide spacing. The opposing PG does not have to expend energy by fighting through picks, etc. Gary Payton (who frequently vocalized with frustration with the Triangle), wanted to post up Tony Parker, 'to get back at the kid'. Unfortunately for GP, a PG posting up in the Triangle is considered sacrilegious.

Hello Mitch K, are we there yet? Give us Kirk or Earl and we'll deal with this fandom in this blog. These are also the same people saying "we're coming around in '06, in 07 get Sefolosha, get Tyrus Thomas during the draft. Protect Mihm, protect Luke, protect Farm, protect Drew protect, protect, protect. Why can't we be realistic and solve our deficiencies without protecting anybody? Anywhere you go, there is always politics surrounding Kobe. Shall we protect Kobe or protect all these scrubs from being traded or being scrapped?

Just my opinion to Mitch K., don't need any answer from the Farmarholics and Farmaranians.

The blog is looking good Mark. Aesthetically, this is the best looking post you've put up yet (though I haven't read a word). I like to look at words as art, and I like the way the picture of Mitch with his hair hair matching the diffused white light above him, eases the eye away from the title and onto the dark grey sentences with powder blue endings. It's easy on the eye.


I also like the alliteration in the title and the visual pun between your titleand Mitch (with the superstructure of the roof behind him) actually looking like his head is caught in a spider web.


Or maybe I just have too much time on my hands.


Wes

Did I just say "hair hair"?


This reminds me of something fun to do in class if you're a teacher. I think FEARless is a teacher, so he can use this.


Make a sign with two lines of words and ask each student or person or whatever to quickly read what the sign says. And it says:


A bird in the
the bush


Most people will read "A bird in the bush" and not "A bird in the the bush" which it actually says. I did this trick for a good 5 years and had only one person read it correctly.


Again....too much time on my hands.


Wes

Kobe will not play tonight according to lakers.com Basketblog
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/

What's funny, is I also wanted to be called Joe, like my buddy Joey. So at 5 years old when my mother told my brother and I to choose our own middle names, I became Wes "Joe" Nixon.


Eat your heart out Kobe.


Wes

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(01) utzworld THE BANNER HOLDER - CHAPLAIN - LET US PRAY Dear Lord, be with Jeanie and her doggie for today's surgery. May all be well with the little pup. AMEN!
(02) MAMBA24 - DRIVER - May the force be with you and your pet.

Jeanie, cataract operation will prolong the life of your little dog. What I learned from dogs that when there are health problems like: tumor, earmites, loss appetite, follow what the Vet recommends. The sooner you do it, the longer will be their life span. I have a ChowLab 12 yrs old and a Chihuahua-Pomeranian 10 yrs old.

I read in Hoopshype I believe it was tht Luke getting hurt compromises our SG position so we probably have to hang on to Ammo...how ironic! wonder if Luke needs surgery on that nerve or back of his....we are thin at the 3..Maybe its time to 86 Luke! He had use but he is always hurt so we can't do anything with a player always sitting on the shelf taking up a roster spot...If its not his back then its ankles or some other extremity..Injuries are a part of the game I know but how much loyalty is too much for someone like Luke???

Mark,
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The last thread with all the polls was actually reporting all posts as previews and asking you to enter the hidden numbers from a picture you could not see. That is why there were so many duplicated posts there. In fact, you should not post the same post on the same thread more than once, assuming you are reading the posts as you approve them. The polls must have somehow screwed up the way the posts work with TypePad. Check out the thread yourself and try to post and you will see the problem.
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Tom

WES… Loved the story about choosing your own middle name. My dad, who is Chinese, game me a Chinese name for my middle name, which growing up I hated and was always made fun of. Must have had a hundred fights in elementary school over that. Anyway, my dad said no problem and let me choose any name I wanted when I was 6 or 7. This was before Black Pride back when all immigrants just wanted to become Americans. Stupidly, I choose Huey (Donald Duck nephew). Later, when I reconciled to my heritage and finally became proud of it, I switched back to my Chinese name instead of Hugh. Joe was a much better choice for a kid. - - - - - - - - - -
Mamba… Even though I am a cat person, add me to the bandwagon praying for Jeanie’s dog. Lady has a lot of class and I admire her greatly.
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Tom

oh my god, I think the guy from Ball Don't Lie on Yahoo figured out why Dunleavy made the Camby trade... TO PAY DUNLEAVY'S SALARY NEXT SEASON!!!??? Wow... players see this kind of stuff... no way, NO WAY they have a shot at Lebron now... the best free agents will try to play anywhere else than get into this situation... the Clippers will get the lowest level "best" available free agents this summer... in other words, continued mediocrity...

- Can you imagine if Kobe had signed with the Clippers all those years ago? You think he threw a fit here??? LOL! He'd probably be in the Euro league right now because of some contract dispute with the Clippers...

pfunk36,

you wrote: The reason why there is so much emphasis on the triangle is because that is all Phil Jackson and Tex Winter ever talk about and that filters down to the reporters.


This offensive mindset is also reflected in the personel on the bench and recent draft choices. If your first thought was defense Like Popovich and Mike Brown........would you have Luke Walton on your team? Would you have drafted that chinese guy last year? Would Adam Morrison be on your team?

If you were defensive minded wouldn't you find more playing time for Mbenga and Powell? If you were defensive minded wouldn't Shannon Brown minutes increase and Derek Fisher's decrease?

If you were defensive and rebound minded would you have let DeJuan Blair get to the second round for the Spurs to pick up?

My response: Actually, PJ has talked about defense. He played defense as
a player. His last 3-peat in Chicago had 3 all nba defensive players on it.
[ Rodman, Pippen & Jordan. Not 100% about Rodman, KB Blitz will fix this. ]

*I* am not going to say "jack" about the personnel. I think we've beaten
that dead horse into a fine paste. :) I am curious as to why the outstanding
basketball minds of the blog fixate on offense after not being able to stop the
Cavs.

What strange commercials those would be: Nike running an add. Just score.
Cameo appearance by Tiger Woods. Followed by Trojan Man! Followed
by a KY commercial.

I guess it would sort of negate the whole principle of team work wouldn't it.
Can't really seam the team work when LBJ does the dunk with a hand behind
his head. Then we'd have more whiners talking about how we're promoting
"Ko-Me" ball.

WUTTUP CRUE!!!

GAME DAY BABY - YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


Mamba24 - add me to the Buss dog get well soon bandwagon please. I too am a cat person, but if the dog's happy, then Jeannie's happy, then Phil's happy, then the team will play better and then the idiots will stop saying Kobe should be traded.... You see where I'm going with this? LOL!!


Mamba24 - ALSO - I seriously think you have been negligent in your bandwagon duties around here. WHY OH WHY is there no current bandwagon rolling to congratulation KOBE BEAN BRYANT - the NBA's PLAYER OF THE DECADE????!!!!!! WTH???? C'mon man - get that thong on and get it in gear!! The ASG is over and we should all be in mid-season form and THAT MEANS YOU TOO, MISTER!!!

See you guys on the live chat later - let's taco us some warriors....!

GO LAKERS!!!

Nothing but another title will suffice.

Dear little pinched nerve,

Thank you again. You have no idea how much you've just improved our chances of repeating. Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,
Laker Nation

MAMBA24...where you been, dude?! We've needed your roll call to get everybody back aboard the Laker Train and rolling together toward another title. And you can put me down as HOLY SHITSU MONK on the Jeannie Buss praying bandwagon, in charge of incense, prayer beads, meditations, and near-rim levitations.

And lastly, LTLF, if Mitch Kupchak can somehow, someway get the miracle trade for Russell Westbrook, dude, I'LL eat your shoes AND jockey shorts.

hobbitmage,

>>>If you were defensive minded wouldn't you find more playing time for
>>>Mbenga and Powell?

huh?

Mbenga is a decent shot blocker, but he's foul prone, and Powell is a total liability on defense. Why would you every play either of those guys ahead of Pau, Lamar, and Drew. In fact, Luke Walton is a better defensive PF option than Powell.

I would trade Luke Walton, Shasha V, and Mbenga to the Bobcats for Tyson Chandler . Tyson would add speed in the transition game . He can play center or powerfoward. Valuable insurance for Gasol and Bynum. Front line players Gasol, Bynum, Odom , Tyson, and Artest could prove to be the right counter to Cleveland's Shaq, V, Jamison, Powe.


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