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Caught in the Web: Read all about the Lakers 95-89 victory over the Denver Nuggets

Lamar Odom

To better organize the daily buffet of Lakers links, I figured I'd switch things up a bit and sort all the links by category. Also, look for a new addition at the bottom of each "Caught in the Web" post. I'll be adding a "Reader Comment of the Day" item, with the winner gaining a valuable prize....more credibility within the Lakers blog community.

Game stories

Mike Bresnahan - Los Angeles Times

Kevin Ding - Orange County Register

Benjamin Hochman - The Denver Post

Elliott Teaford - L.A. Daily News

Dan Weber - Riverside Press Enterprise

Notebooks

Benjamin Hochman - The Denver Post

Elliott Teaford - L.A. Daily News

Broderick Turner - Los Angeles Times

Dan Weber - Riverside Press Enterprise

Sidebars

The Times' Mike Bresnahan on Lamar Odom's aggressiveness.

The Times' Mark Heisler outlines on how George Karl's cancer has brought the Nuggets closer together.

Columns

NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper breaks down the playoff picture in the Western Conference.

Orange County Register's Kevin Ding on the Lakers barking back to Denver's trash talk.

Fox Sports' Randy Hill on how the Denver Nuggets allowed a victory to slip out of their fingers.

Yahoo! Sports' Johnny Ludden breaks down how Ron Artest proved to be the difference against Denver.

ESPN Los Angeles' Arash Markazi on Artest's defensive performance on Carmelo Anthony.

ESPN Los Angeles' Dave McMenamin on more trash talk.

Riverside Press Enterprise's Greg Patton on how the Lakers responded to Denver's aggression.

Orange County Register's Randy Youngman on how Bryant is helping the team even during a shooting slump.

Blogs

Forum Blue and Gold breaks down the Lakers victory.

Pro Basketball Talk' Kurt Helin on Pau Gasol not liking that the Nuggets "talk too much."

ESPN Los Angeles' John Ireland details the difference the Lakers made between the first and second half.

ESPN Los Angeles' Andy and Brian Kamenetzky provides postgame analysis and videos.

Roundball Mining Company has a postgame wrap on the Nuggets' end.

Silver Screen and Roll imagines what a Lakers-Nuggets playoff matchup would look like.

Laker.com's Mike Trudell provides a running diary filled with key plays and postgame analysis and numbers.

Lakers news

Roland Lazenby details, based on conversations with sources, the possibility that LeBron James might join the Lakers, as well the apparent power struggle between Jackson and owner Jerry Buss.

Silver Screen and Roll's reaction to Lazenby's story. NBA Fanhouse's Brett Pollakoff offers his two cents as well.

Tweet of the Day: "I think Pau not having tattoos is an expression of his confidence in his game in that he doesn't need 2 affirm his dominance w macho tattoos." -- kaj33 (Lakers great Kareem Abdul-Jabbar).

Reader Comment of the Day: "At times we may have a let down, but aint nobody gone take our crown. Hot teams come and hot teams go, but the Lakers are a Dynasties we’re not here just for show..." -- MAMBA24

--Mark Medina

Follow the L.A. Times Lakers blog on Twitter. E-mail the Lakers blog at mgmedin@gmail.com

Photo: Lakers forward Lamar Odom looks for room to operate against Denver power forward Kenyon Martin in the first quarter Sunday. Credit: Luis Sinco/Los Angeles Times.

 
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Marky Mark,

Any insight as to whether or not Shaq's injury now makes the likelihood of the Lakers having the best record in the NBA come playoff time a PROBABILITY?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Roland Lazenby's article scares me to no ends.

Really scares me.

These guys really need to get their egos in check PRONTO.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

I was at this game and let me tell you, Jeff Van Gundy had it all wrong when he said Staples was booing the Lakers. We were booing the horrible officiating. But of course Jeff (God I hate Phil Jackson) Van Gundy would see it as a lack of Laker heart. Section 301 (up in the boonies where I generally buy seats, it's mid-court and you are right over the action, these were X-mas gifts) had some nice, rowdy folk who would cheeer with me as I would yell "8 on 5!", hey, they can't fine me. Nene and Melo were never called for any over-the-back fouls. Chauncey and J.R. were never called for any reaches or off arm fouls. It was ludicrous. They couldn't even toss a jump ball right it was like they had missed their morning cup O' joe.


Game ball goes to Lamar and Ron for bringing it. Lamar was an offensive juggernaut, blowing by K-Mart, Melo or whoever they tried to put on him. Ron was intimidating and got under Carmello's skin more than Sasha Vujacic ever did. Only difference being if 'Melo tried to choke Ron, Ron would probably beat the tar out of him.


I have to applaud Kobe for smoothly adapting his game to his personal shooting woes, he was off on all of his shots, not getting calls and so he operated with deadly effeciency from the elbow. You gotta love it when your super-star recognizes it just ain't his day. This win was a much a reflection of that as any other players effort on the floor.


The bench has to find some sort of fortitude against this team. J.R. Smith cannot outplay our entire bench in a playoff match up or we will lose (I'm not being fair, but I'm not counting Lamar as a bench Mobber, today) to find a way to stay in front of old man B-B-Billups (Chauncey was going around Farmar consistently...without the aid of screens, just getting broken down off the dribble) and Fish has to stop going to the hole. No lift on his shot equals block in the NBA. Especially when he avoids contact.


Best part about this game was George Karl daring anyone other than Pau and Kobe to beat them, and we did, without much support from the bench (Josh Powell helped keep us in striking distance in the 2nd quarter and DJ did his thing, too, but not alot from anyone else, other than Lamar, of course). We did it with defense, poise, and heart.
The stuff championships are made of.

I love Roland Lazenby as a writer, but nearly every single thing he writes directly states or implies something negative about Phil Jackson. He does seem to have a chip on his shoulder about our coach.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Mark Medinah I am honored to be your Blogger of the day. I thank you sincerely for this and I thank the Lakers Blog for putting up with my ridiculous poems. Thanks Again Sir!
Mamba24(Larry)

Marky Mark,

Here's my input about the new link structure: It's easier to read, but less fun.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

This LeBron James guy sure is a distraction.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

M/M, when you put up a thread, you are like Manny Pacquiao punches 1-2-3 no chance for your talkative poster to rise at Kobe. Their posts are OBNT (overwhelmed by new threads) while you have deadlines to meet and speed up like a TGV train don't care if people are left behind. lol!

Why are you in such hurry? LOL again.

Spike Lee,

Please edit "Kobe Doin' Work" and replace the game footage with the game footage of this win over Denver. Thank You!

GO LAKERS!!!!!

Jon K - What exactly do you mean by less fun?

MM

No Shaq probably does hurt the Cavs, but their schedule is so easy. Ours is tougher, with most games left on the road. Will be interesting to see where "Z" winds up.

I agree with Jon's implication. The loss of Shaq is huge for the Cavs. With him, they were a no-brainer to come out of the East. Without him maybe they don't make it out. Maybe they don't get the best record in the NBA.

Amazing how delicate the balance of power is in sports. One slap on the thumb might have changed everything.

Secret Agent Thought Of The Day:

Perhaps LeBron James recognizes that the Lakers' greatest weakness is their succeptibility to drama and infighting. Perhaps he has absolutely NO interest in becoming a Laker, but recognizes that WHOEVER he signs with, the Lakers will be the number one threat to him becoming a ring-bearer.

As such, he is stoking the fires within the Lakers offices as a means facilitating the Lakers' implosion.

If that's what he's doing, it would be rather clever of him.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Johnny V has it almost all right in his post about how the Lakers get LeBron. As I posted yesterday:

For those of you thinking that this means that LeBron plays second fiddle to Kobe, GUESS AGAIN: Hate to burst your bubble, but it would not be LeBron AND Kobe.

No, it would be LeBron INSTEAD of Kobe.

Remember last summer's switcheroo: Dump Ariza and sign Artest? Well, next summer is round 2.

1. Kobe opts out next summer rather than re-sign with the Lakers. He probably thinks he's going to re-sign with the Lakers, but his ego requires him to opt out, "test the waters," and have all the other teams court him before agreeing to re-sign with the Lakers.

2. In the meantime, LeBron has the Cavs over a barrel. He tells them he is not coming back, under any circumstances. So, they can either let him go as a free agent and get nothing in return, or they can do a sign & trade. [So, all those cellar-dwellers clearing up cap space forgot one thing: Via sign & trade, LeBron can go anywhere he wants to.]

3. LeBron wants to go to the Lakers, and the Lakers want him. The Cavs sign LeBron and trade him to the Lakers for Bynum, Vujacic and Walton (to make the salaries match). [btw: This is the real reason the Lakers decided to go so far over the salary cap this season: To use part of it in trade to get LeBron.]

4. The Lakers then tell Kobe: See ya! With a starting lineup of James, Gasol, Artest and Odom, Derek Fisher could be the Lakers PG until he's 40.

5. PJ is so happy to be rid of Kobe that he says he could coach "another ten years."

6. Kobe signs with the Knicks, so he can finally get to play in Madison Square Garden, which is what he has really wanted all this time.

7. But the Lakers have one more trick up their sleeve: After PJ coaches the LeBron Lakers to two more championships, going 76-2 and 80-2 those years, the Lakers dump PJ and LeBron becomes de facto player-coach, though not getting the official title of "coach."

8. That's because. to really stick it to PJ, Buss re-hires Paula Abdul as coach/Laker-Girl, commenting to the media, "This team is so good, even a cheerleader could coach it to a championship!"

9. End result: Jerry Buss has improved his team, got back under the salary cap, saved himself over $100-$200 million in Kobe salary, luxury tax and PJ salary, and had the personal satisfaction of firing his daughter's boyfriend.

10. And, lastly, Jerry West is re-hired as the Lakers' executive vice-president, finally righting the wrong perpetrated when PJ maneuvered to get rid of him.

It doesn't get any better than that!!!!

Jon K.,
I would hope it would help, but remember, Lakers have to take care of their own business and not worry assume they have an edge, they still have to win their games, the hard ones and the harder ones (the one's they can't seem to focus enough on to win...like I have said each season there are 5-8 games they lose to teams that they should have obviously defeated).

As for the setting the tone (see Kevin Ding's article)...I have always said the Lakers should be the aggressor, and play more physical, from the beginning of the season to the end. Come playoff time, Gasol will be knocked around and will not get any of those calls. He needs to be the one using his 250 lbs to hold his position and occasionally to really knock an opponent....M'Benga, he's good to bring in for some tough play, yeah he'll pick up 2-3 quick fouls, but it's better than watching Pau get drained playing high minutes then flailing around when pushed by a guard. I say M'Benga is used for 2nd quarter paybacks. It would change the tone of the game from the Lakers being soft to the Lakers "holding their ground, and dishing it back"....You have to earn the respect of the opponent and wipe those stupid smirks off the the opponents, such as the leopard spotted Nuggets.

Amazing how delicate the balance of power is in sports. One slap on the thumb might have changed everything. Posted by: Mark G | March 01, 2010 at 10:46 AM

That's a great line Mark G!

Mamba24,

There is nothing ridiculous about your poems.

They are appreciated.

What do we play for? RINGS!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Marky Mark,

The previous structure seemed like it allowed for a greater fluidity between ideas and a more creative sentence structure... at the expense of not being as easy to read.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

@JON K, Thank you my brother. As are you.
Mamba24

*
RON ARTEST WE APPRECIATE YOU DAY – BANDWAGON
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(01) RICK FRIEDMAN – OWNER - Message to Thuggets: Bullies never win. Try all you want to manhandle us. Our talent allows us to impose our will. All we have to do is find our resolve. Resolve. The quality that has been listed as M.I.A. lately reported for duty in the second half of Sunday's face-off at Staples Center. You could see it in Ron Artest's eyes. You could witness it in LO's aggression. It screamed at you in the Mamba's scowl. All of a sudden it was contagious.
(02) VMAN – DRIVER - Ron and LO are gonna wrap a championship banner around their careers and take this thing the rest of the way. ROnLO's the matchup nightmare every team is goin' to have to focus on now. Hmm, that leaves that 24 guy freer to roam.Every fighter has a plan till he gets hit. The Lakers were hit, they responded with a beautifully ugly W.
(03) AZTRONUT – RIDING SHOTGUN - I’d have to vote for Artest as the player of the game as his defense on Anthony made all the difference in the outcome and also inspired the rest of the team to buckle down
(04) #4
(05) JAMIE SWEET - Game ball goes to Lamar and Ron for bringing it. Lamar was an offensive juggernaut, blowing by K-Mart, Melo or whoever they tried to put on him. Ron was intimidating and got under Carmello's skin more than Sasha Vujacic ever did.
(06) CALIPHILOSOPHER - I like that Ron Ron is setting high standards for the team. The more that I hear from him, the more I appreciate what he brings to the Lake Show. He's seemed to mellow out (in his own way) since first coming into the league with Chicago.
(07) JON K - I think Thriller is setting a high standard for himself and the Lakers, which is good. I'd rather see a player of Thriller's calliber talk about how they can improve than someone like Carmelo Anthony or J.R. Smith rambling on about how they're unstoppable. Artest played great defense tonight. I was reminded as to why we signed Thriller in the first place. "Ron was the perfect pick up to slog through a repeat year winning with defense." My gut is telling me that Thriller is going to be the reason we win a Championship
(08) MARK G - I thought LO and Ron were great today and I guess I'm the only one that thought Bynum played OK. He was moving on D, blocked some shots, and specifically remember him picking up Billups on the way to the basket which forced Billups into a turnover: a bad pass that went straight to Kobe.
(09) SHRINE - If this is the new and improved Artest, I liked what I saw. Great D.
(10) JW BRENT - Unbelievable effort by Artest! I'm so glad he is with the Lakers. His dedication to getting better as the season wears on bodes well for the playoff run...
(11) TODD - Artest's defense was central to the victory today.
(12) MCLYNE - Finally, a dominant game by RonRon! I've been waiting all year for a performance like this from Thriller and I'm glad it happened tonight.
(13) STAPLES24 - Ron Artest will be the MVP of the Finals.
(14) DXTAH - heres ronnie T rocking them too http://tiny.cc/6bIMo
(15) Q.S. - give me more of Ron Artest!
(16) OUCHHHH - i hope after this game all the Ariza nostalgia will be gone. wake up. iRon is the ONE.
(17) KB BLITZ - Artest finally coming through against Melo and just frustrating the hell out of him.
(18) SCOTT - Value of the swap for Artest has been proven. Having 'Melo playing hurt the Nuggets this time, because he had to face Artest, leading to poor shooting and turnovers. I'd rather have the Nuggets run the offense through 'Melo against Artest than through Billups against the Lakers PGs
(19) APPLE NIPPLES - Of course Ron had his best defensive game of the year shutting down Carmelo
(20) DJ. - Ron was at his best, really looked great!
(21) TAINO - In the playoffs atmosphere of today's game when the refs could call a foul on every play but the refs put the whistles in their pockets... this is where Ronron can operate. Artest was making a statement, make the premier scorers work for everything,
(22) LAKERBAKE - Ron gets credit for dropping some "MUSCLE POUNDS" for the sake of his defense and the team. Lamar Odom is the X factor in Los Angeles!!!
(23) OHIO VIC - Great win and I agree that it was the best I've seen Artest play all year
(24) JAMES KATT - 1. Ron Artest is the player of the game. He played fantastic hard-nosed, physical defense against Carmelo Anthony and got Carmelo to FOUL OUT. I loved Artest swinging in the air after Carmelo's foul. That is the fighting Ron I expected to see. He should now be able to keep up with Lebron. Ron is greatly needed by the Lakers for his offense - not just defense. He gave us a good 17 points today. He shouldn't forget that he also needs to be a threat on offense in order to make the opponents work harder.
(25) JEANETTE - Kobe, Ron Artest and Odom are in it. We got this. I can see Pau & Drew going at it from this day on. Lakers will be unstoppable once everybody gets on board. Our defence will win the championship this year. Ron will be the difference.
(26) LANDO - l. Kudos to Artest in handling Anthony. Anthony can usually bulldoze his way to the hole but Ron wasn't having it.
(27) EMAMNAUEL - Artest was clearly the MVP of the game

What's everybody beefing about today? We won. Be happy!

Mamba24,

Congratulations, but I don't think that you can possibly accumulate more credibility than you already rightfully enjoy around here. The FDIC won't insure what you've already acquired above the credibility limit, so maybe you should start spending some of it? Use your assets to marginalize the asses...JK!

humanomaly,

I would also like to see MBenga get more minutes. He can bang.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

I propose 2 new bandwagons:

-- I would rather hang myself than see crabbron in a lakers uniform bandwagon

-- Little mr pinched nerve for lakers regular season MVP bandwagon

So who's with me?

Good morning CRUE!!!!


Not much time, but here goes:


Mamba24 - thanks for the poem. And no you didn't need a push from me - you're a one-man cheering section - and vitally important to this outstanding community!


Also - mamba24 - put me on the I LOVE ME SOME THRILLER bandwagon. That boy has EARNED not only his paycheck but my undying love LOL!! The job he did on Melo was HUGE. IF the princess comes out of the East, and that's a big IF, I can't wait to see the hurt she'll feel up against our very own Thriller. OOOOWWEEEEEEEE that would be some kinda fun! Keep up the fish & veggie diet RonRon - it's doing you a world of good!!!!

Jon K - NO WAY is princess jimmy clever enough to orchestrate a Laker meltdown. She's just not that smart.

human - I love the idea of seeing a little more Congo Cash dishing out some payback. LOVE IT. Just a few minutes here & there to give Pau a breather and remind the other team who's boss.... love it.

I am so very VERY happy today!!! The Lake Show showed true grit and determination, and pushed back against the fugly Thuggets!!! AND Team Canada won hockey GOLD!!!

WOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


Thanks again to everyone on the live chat who make game time so much fun. And of course to all you other crazies on here who really should get on the chat with us - what exactly is your problem??? LOL!!!


Have a great day Lakerholics!


GO LAKERS!!!!!

Nothing but another title will suffice.


Oh - almost forgot - a special thanks to Rick Friedman for keeping the defibrillator handy. I almost needed it this time!

Marky Mark,
The previous structure seemed like it allowed for a greater fluidity between ideas and a more creative sentence structure... at the expense of not being as easy to read.
What do we play for? RINGS!!!
Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.
GO LAKERS!!!!
Posted by: Jon K. | March 01, 2010 at 10:56 AM

I would counter that this new structure has our Mamba24 included in it. Therefore, I like it!

jimjoyce,

Give me a hit of that before you put it out. Sounds like you've got the really primo stuff to hallucinate a future like that.

dear 2M

i love the link with the NAMES. one does not have to CLICK on unwanted writers to give them HITS. NO hit links. one of the few blogs that has that. the warning signs r up: green, yellow, orange RED.

If the Lakers with the title this year, I think a lot of FA that want to win will want to come to the Lakers. Everybody knows that Phil wins three in a row, and it will come at a perfect time before the lockout.

yellofever...

I am with you!!! I don't like LBJ, couldn't care less if he's the greatest player ever according to David Stern.

When I was a young man in the late 70s and early 80s I was stationed in Denver (716 Roslyn St for any Laker fans that are there). Since there wasn't any cable or satellite on base, if we wanted to watch the NBA we went to Nuggets games at McNichol's Arena. The fans treated us nice and the team was so bad that if you sat close enough to the bench there was a chance you could get in the game (:)=).

What I don't remember is the Nugget fans having any noticeable mental illness. However, this morning I followed a link over to the Denver Post and read several of the comments. Wow, calling them delusional would almost be an insult to delusional people. The post that stood out the most follows:

"We coulda destroyed this team if we wanted to. Melo wasn't even playing his hardest, was just laughing majority of the time. We didn't even try in the 2nd half and coulda won. See how many WIDE OPEN shots we missed. See how Billups didn't do anything in the 3rd, but waited till like 4 min left in the 4th to turn it up. Its nothing really

We gotta a game tonight against PHO, we not wasting all our energy on the Lakers we already beaten twice"

So there you have it Laker faithful. It wasn't because Artest was a defensive nightmare for Melo. It wasn't because Kobe had 12 assists to Melo's one. It wasn't because the Laker D stayed close to Billups and limited his 3s. NO, it was because the Nugs weren't really trying to close the gap and get home court for the playoffs.

Oh, while I was there I read that Denver is actively recruiting Big-Z. That's one of the good news/bad news headlines.

JR

Oh - almost forgot - a special thanks to Rick Friedman for keeping the defibrillator handy. I almost needed it this time!Posted by: justanothermambafan | March 01, 2010 at 11:53 AM

You can say that again! haha!

Use your assets to marginalize the asses...JK! Posted by: aztronut | March 01, 2010 at 11:27 AM
ROFLMFAO!! Thank you I think! Lol.

Yellow fever - I'm good with the first one; but, I'd probably just rather watch a Clippers game than see Lebron in a Lakers jersey. Almost the same thing.

JR

I've always enjoyed Roland's posts. but this one was terrible!

I'm not buying the LBJ to Lakers, and I'm not buying the beef with Phil and Buss.

I can't believe Roland wrote that.

I'm sure SHaq will stay in shape while his thumb is healing, so he'll be able to step right back in without missing a beat.

Now we see who the real Laker fans are: They'd rather have an aging and selfish Kobe Bryant ("I eat first ...") than a young and team-oriented LeBron James?

Obviously these are Kobe Apologists, not true Laker fans.

LTLF: Remember, last year I proposed a Bynum for Paul/Williams trade? And you found the light on that one about a few weeks ago? I'm sure it's just a matter of time before you come around on this one too.


Mamba 24: the kinda kool aid that's good for ya.

Perennial MVB, always and ever, out freakin' standing.


Lebron might want to check with Kareem about leavin' a small market and finishing his career in the majors.

The difference, Cap had his ring when he left and as we all know, 'Bron won't be getting one this year either.

LBJ in Lakers uniform?No way LBJ is so ugly,sorry where in Hollywood our players are handsome.LBJ will go down in NBA history as Ugliest player of all time!!!

Allen Iverson is realy chapping my hide. I don't like anyone who uses their children to further an agenda, which is what Iverson is doing. He's a loser.


wes

"I'm not buying the beef with Phil and Buss"

WHy would you think that things are suddenly better between the two? If Buss couldn't get along with Jackson after three titles and a finals appearance in a 5 year period, they aren't going to be getting along now. They might be able to co-exist, but there is clearly an undercurrent in that relationship.

Mamba24, thanks for the complement brother.

I agree with Jon K, not only are your poems worthy, they are essential.

BTW, it's lunch time and I'm hungry. ARE THERE ANY NUGGETS LEFT?

Jolly Rancher,
Was that at Lowry AFB?

Ex,

"I'm sure SHaq will stay in shape while his thumb is healing, so he'll be able to step right back in without missing a beat."

You had me for a second, I had to check my sarcasm meter on that one.

LakerTom doesn't post here much anymore.

May he find solace in the following:

"One pressing concern has to be the recent, but becoming all too common, listless performance of center Andrew Bynum. Once again, he turned in minuscule numbers of 6 points (on 3-7 shooting) and 6 rebounds. It is unfathomable how a player of his size and ability, cannot seem to motivate himself into playing a more aggressive game on a regular basis. Too many times, Bynum is seen standing and watching what is going on, as if he is waiting for a bus. Perhaps the Lakers coaching staff should consider using a cattle prod to elicit some form of active movement from the 7 foot, 285 pound center, who is now in his fourth year as a pro."

Find solace yet?

No credibility remains.

The only thing left for Tom to do is attack us sensible
folks our accents and choice of clothing.

Nothing else remains.


Kids these Days

Yep. I don't like the links being lined up like that either. Maybe I'm a party pooper, but the problem is we don't know what slant the writer is taking when there's not a creative sentence leading up to the blue-letter link.

Wes

ex,

NO way does (sh)HACK stay in shape during his recovery...no way!!!!!!

Yellow,

I would LOVE to see LeBron as a Laker. Bring him on and let PJ deal with the chemestry issues.


wes

OMG, I'm not sure what to make of Lazenby's article. I have to mull it over, but that is about as juicy a piece of gossip as I've read in a while!

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Would Michael Finely help our team?

Spurs just released him.

Le Bron James as a Laker...hmmm. It sounds too good to be true, but it is possible. Probable, no, but possible. I kind of doubt it will happen because I think Jerry wants to see Kobe Bryant go down as a lifetime Laker and one of the GOAT. In order to do that, though, Kobe needs to win at least one more ring as a Laker, if not two, so that he equals Jordan whilst passing all of the Showtime era players. The best shot for that to happen is the next two to three years.


In three years this dynamic Laker line up will be less athletic, slower and still possessed of their bad habits they've shown us the last couple of years (ie:playing down to the poorer opponents, banking on talent, etc). Unless some big trades happen, it will be relatively unchanged as well, all of our major components (except Kobe) are under contract for 3+ years (Odom and Artest for 5, Gasol for 3, Bynum for 3 and honestly Kobe has two more years left on his deal). We'll have a few fresh faces, but 3 years from now Luke Walton may well be donning his purple and gold jersey for the last time, Farmar, Powell, Mbenga,Vujacic and Fisher will have moved on or retired (in my opinion). We'll have some different role-players and a core that will (potentially) be looking to defend a 3-peat run (that's right! I said it!). Kobe, Lamar and Artest will be starting the down side of their athleicism, Pau will be quite seasoned and hopefully be playing even better and Bynum should be the focal point of the offense starting 2013.


I don't see any way that Le Bron comes here while Kobe is still a Laker; at least not now it would be too many cooks in the kitchen and Le Bron will (hopefully) never have beaten the best player on the best team to win his first ring. We would also need to trade away most of our length in order to clear the necessary cap space to work out a deal big enough for Le Bron to even consider coming here. Gutting the team to get the King will leave us looking like Cleveland. Some OK role players wihout a solid core of winners.


I don't fully buy the whole 'back room power struggle' Roland Lazenby throws out there. It seems that, especially in LA with the microscope that the Lakers play under, something would have gotten out by now. If Phil is playing mind games with the Laker brass at this point in their relationship that is stranger to me than anything else, to be frank. This feels like a 'scoop to sell my new book' kind of thing.


However, I thought it was a fools gold when the Lakers went after Shaq so...it's possible, just not probable.

@exhelodrvr


"I'm sure SHaq will stay in shape while his thumb is healing, so he'll be able to step right back in without missing a beat."


Well, since we all know how quickly he heals on company time I'd be surprised if was out 6 weeks. Shaq is like Logan (Wolverine) he heals FREAKISHLY FAT...er, fast.

@Mamba24


Thanks for putting me on the We Love Ron Ron BW today without any prompt on my part. Have you always been this classy?

Off topic:

I have been as guilty as any other blogger on here wanting us to add a piece -- a peice that could help us, particularly with outside shooting.....Soooooooooooo, here I go again.

Spurs about to release old ass Mike Finley! Do we snatch him up or does Mitch say nope -- he can't help us? Are there any minutes for him especially if ShaSha is coming back in a few weeks????

Any thoughts?

I've long advocated pursuing LBJ, so Roland's article was music to my ears. I've always thought that if LBJ wants to leave Cleveland, we've got as good a chance as anybody to get him.

Now it's up to Kobe, Phil and Dr. Buss to actively court LBJ and bring him onboard this summer. I don't have any doubt that Kobe and LBJ can co-exist and form the best dynamic duo since MJ-Pippen. LBJ has always been deferential towards Kobe, and no doubt Kobe wants to play with the best.

A lineup of Fish, Kobe, LBJ, LO, and Pau. Can you dig it?

@precise p

QUESTION OF THE DAY:

Would Michael Finely help our team?


Answer: Not in this lifetime. We already have Derek Fisher as over-the-hill, not too good defensively, streaky spot-up shooter. The only difference is Fish is better, he's a leader and a Laker For Life.

Screw Michael Finley.

Mamba24,

Thanks for the love. I really like Ron Artest. I was one of the few who liked the trade although I like Ariza as well. Maybe he can come back as a Laker someday. KOBE and ARTEST, lethal combination.

Looking into the schedules for the rest of the season, I would three bold predictions:

1. Lakers would finish as #1 seed, unless we have an utter meltdown. We still have a 5.5 game lead, and we finish the season facing Kings and Clippers as our last opponents. So there's a perfect two-W game for us to keep us ahead at the end..

2. Denver will fall to #3 or #4 when the regular season ends. Denver has more games against teams with winning records. Also, they have most number of back-to-backs (eight). This is surely going to take a toll on them, and I feel Dallas, which has only 24 games left, has more home games, lesser games against +0.500 opponents and only 5 back-to-backs. If Jazz make a run, they can as well overtake Nuggets.

3. San Antonio will miss the play-offs. They have an absolutely grueling schedule. They have the most number of games to be played, more road games compared to home games, and more games against teams with winning records and tie for back-to-back games pending with Nuggets. This is going to batter them and drop them out of Top-8.

And yes, when Spurs drop out of the contention, its going to be Hornets with #8 seed.. Any takers??

Mamba,

Can we start a Get LBJ Bandwagon? I'll be the driver, and LTLF can ride shotgun despite being a doubter all these years :)

from other blog entry:

LongTimeLakerFan: "Much as I hate the Celtics, baiting them is now officially passe. I mean, it's not like it's any challenge to bait them anymore. It's like mocking the Clippers or the Timberwolves."
-- I've written here how I detest Leprechauns, Lucky Charm cereal, the color green & even parquet floors. I'll always hate the C's, but yeah I do see what you mean. It's no fun to tease bad teams, and the Celtics have been absolutely Clipper-esque since the new year. It's like going to a convalescent home and teasing the seniors. Like I said, they better order up some more of those Paul Peirce special wheelchairs because they're going to be put to use soon enough.

Jolly Rancher: "Dork? Did someone actually call someone else a Dork? Have these edge of your seat wins snapped our minds back to Jr. High?"
-- Haha I thought the same thing. I had thought of writing a much more profane word at first, but it would probably have been kept from being published, so stuck with 'dork' Honestly though, if you read Staples 24 STUPID post, he basically humiliated himself and showed us he knows next to nothing, along with being a not-so secret Kobe hata. Maybe though it was a cry for help, someone keep Staples 24 from eating the flaking paint chips off the side of his trailer!
Why do people come in here and say that the Lakers would be winning championships without Kobe? I mean, COME ON!!!! Anyways, DORK he is, in place of another word...


Another Roland Lazenby crazy/paranoid article, it's seems like he goes off the deep end about once a year with his fantasy musings. It's funny, he is close to Phil and I'm pretty sure that his 'souce close to Phil' might just be Phil himself (remember he wrote Mindgames about Phil, obviously he knows a bit about just such things...).

Lazenby is implying everything that Phil is doing is trying to earn leverage so that he could stay with the team, it was PHIL himself that has said he hasn't decided if he'll return, around a month ago he did let out in a 'Philosophy 101' segment on Lakers Live pregame on FSW that he'd like to stay around another couple years with this group, that he enjoyed it.

Lazenby's best line is that Phil is 'tupping the owners daughter' ROFL. Good god, what a bunch of garbage. Oh yeah, Phil has been orchestrating all of this for years then, right? I mean, Mitch has already came out and said that they would keep Phil around as long as he'd like to coach, the Lakers are ALREADY paying Phil -I beleive- $12-mill a year, and are coming off a championship. Jerry Buss is no dummy, he knows that is MONEY WELL SPENT.

Honestly though, sticking with LeBron, what coach WOULDN"T WANT LeBron? When he says that LeBron is quietly sending out messages that he'd like to join the Lakers, I mean what is that? Is Lazenby inferring that the Lakers would force out Kobe to do so? I just can't see Cleveland doing a sign-and-trade for Sasha, Morrison, Mbenga & Farmar for instance and the Lakers are so far over the current salary cap, they'll be further over the new lower cap that will inevitably drop.

Lazenby just has to bring a spotlight onto himself just as his new Jerry West book is coming out. He has to make sure he keeps his name in e-print so that it can drive some sales up. The ONLY thing that is interesting out of the article is that "LeBron James is quietly making overtures to the Los Angeles Lakers." Overtures could mean he's not talking about free-agency, meaning that he isn't DENYING he could come to L.A. - that would be a stretch that only Roland Lazenby or Peter Vecsey would make...

Well, Roland Lazenby sure shook up the internet with that "LeBron to the Lakers?" story. Personally, I think Roland is being manipulated by Phil and his aides de camp. Nothing like a juicy rumor to get everybody on edge and thinking about their own interests. Clearly, PJ's interests lie with remaining with the Lakers at his present salary. Anywhere PJ goes from LA is a step down, even if he teams up with LBJ.

As much as I love and respect Kobe's game, I am not naive enough to think that if it were possible to swap LBJ for the Mamba today, that Dr. Buss wouldn't do it. LBJ's age makes it a sound business decision.

In life, change is inevitable. And in a league where profits are down and a contentious labor negotation looms in the not too distant future, anything is possible. Money distorts the nature of the game. Look how many teams have dumped salaries and sabotaged the past 2 seasons to position themselves for this summer's free agent market. Fans are wrapped up in wins and losses and X's and O's, but owners are more concerned with the financial bottom line. We, as fans, should never forget that and realize that nothing is beyond possibility.

EJK:

"Mamba,

Can we start a Get LBJ Bandwagon? I'll be the driver, and LTLF can ride shotgun despite being a doubter all these years :)"

You suck dude, you suck. If you love LBJ so much, go ahead, post in the Cavs blog about how great your "King" is, and come back if/when he plans to join us.

So, what all bang wagons do we start? "Get James", "Get Durant", "Get Chris Paul".... all of these, with the driver/owner for each of those??

To all those naysayers:

Have pride in your team, and have pride in its roster and trust they can win for us. To get James, we have to send away half our roster, would you want to do that??

Respect the team and its players. A team cannot be made of super-stars alone. It needs role players as much as it needs stars. Dont accuse that Farmar and Brown play like crap, and they should be like CP3 or Deron Williams. There is a reason why Williams is getting almost 6 times the money Farmar is getting. The GM and coach are obviously wiser, and thats why they are the GM/Coach.

All of you who want to kick out Kobe/Bynum/Pau etc etc.. where was your head last year, when this same roster (minus Ariza) won the championship?? Was it deep in your behind??

Ex -

Yes it was Lowry. Now the Air and Space Museum and what appears to be a sports center between Denver and Aurora Co.

JR

The lack of tattoos on basketball players means they had good parents and a good childhood.

Those that have a lot of tattoos have serious emotional problems.

Lamar Odom is to be commended on his aggressive play. When he plays like that, he is like having Kevin Garnett on our team. But Lamar is even better - he can dribble the ball like a guard.

When Lamar Odom is playing well, there is no team that can beat the Lakers.

The key is: which Lamar is going to show up: The Kevin Garnett Lamar or the Attention Deficit Disorder Lamar.

Which one shows up will determine the NBA championship.

Cyber - Just haven't heard/read the word for a VERY long time.

Let's not make fun of those that have lost their mental facilities, just shake your head and smile as they rant. Some people will stand in the desert and complain that their water isn't cold enough.

JR

Jolly,
I used to play basketball at Lowry occasionally; I was stationed at the downtown recruiting center for about 6 months in 1980.

I was at this game and let me tell you, Jeff Van Gundy had it all wrong when he said Staples was booing the Lakers. We were booing the horrible officiating. But of course Jeff (God I hate Phil Jackson) Van Gundy would see it as a lack of Laker heart. Section 301 (up in the boonies where I generally buy seats, it's mid-court and you are right over the action, these were X-mas gifts) had some nice, rowdy folk who would cheeer with me as I would yell "8 on 5!", hey, they can't fine me. Nene and Melo were never called for any over-the-back fouls. Chauncey and J.R. were never called for any reaches or off arm fouls. It was ludicrous. They couldn't even toss a jump ball right it was like they had missed their morning cup O' joe.

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Jamie Sweet,

You beat me to this. Yes I felt also that the crowd was booing the bets and not the Lakers. Worse those comments were picked up by Hill, Worthy and other sportscasters instead of stating the obvious that the bets sucked.

I thought I was the only one who saw those over the backs that were not called. I'm glad you saw them too.

Drew always get ticky tacky fouls called on him so yes bets take him out of his game. He defends hard and people say he is foul prone. He plays off not to pick up bugas calls and people bitch he is not playing hard. I can see why he gets frustated and complains. He should keep his mouth shut and let bets ruin his career?

Same for Kobe who gets slammed and gets no calls.

There should be a way that players criticise bets w/o getting fined. Put it to league arbitration for review and let Lakers provide film to show lack of calls. No fine if correct and fine if not correct. Maybe that could clean up bets without players being fined needlessly for speaking the truth.

Ex,

I was an instructor with the 3450th training group. I taught Avionic Technology and also played basketball during the squadron tournaments. So, you had to suffer with the Nugs back then too eh?

JR

Yellow,

I would LOVE to see LeBron as a Laker. Bring him on and let PJ deal with the chemestry issues.


wes

Posted by: wesjoenixon | March 01, 2010 at 01:15 PM

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Let him come as FA in offseason or sign and trade for Powell, Luke, Sasha, M'Benga, Sasha, Ammo and Farmar and a couple of 2nd round draft picks. LOL

Jolly,
I was a Lakers fan back then; I was just stationed in Denver for a few months in between schools. Mostly I played at the downtown YMCA - that was only about 5 blocks from where I worked. I only played at Lowry about 5 times.

I have a hard time believing that anyone who doesn't want to see Lebron on the Lakers is a Laker fan who knows anything about basketball.


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