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Lakers-Clippers game involves tussle with Baron Davis, Derek Fisher & Pau Gasol

Fast forward to the 1:45 mark in the video above, and you will see a play unfold that, unsurprisingly, sparked differing interpretations following the Lakers' 126-86 victory over the Clippers.

After Lakers forward Pau Gasol and Lakers guard Derek Fisher trapped Clippers guard Baron Davis along the right corner of the three-point line, Davis swung an elbow at Fisher and then at Gasol on his right shoulder.

"I just felt there were too many slaps," Davis told reporters. "I got slapped in my face a couple of times, the play before that. They just kept slapping me in the corner. What else was I supposed to do? Stand there and get slapped?"

Davis was called for an offensive foul, jawed at Fisher and then Kobe Bryant intervened. Davis was assessed a flagrant foul 1 and a technical foul, something Fisher was also given though he said, "I don’t remember saying much when the play unfolded."

"He felt like he got hit," Fisher said. "Obviously I don’t blame him for reacting that way if he thinks he got hit in a certain way. But when they started replaying it back, I didn’t see much that would’ve caused that particular type of reaction. But like I said when you’re in the game and your team is losing the way they’re losing, you’re going to react differently than you normally would."

Meanwhile, Gasol didn't think Davis' reaction was justified at all.

"We were just trapping him and obviously he got upset at something and started swinging elbows," Gasol said of Davis. "I thought Derek got hit, but then I got hit too. He hit my arm. It’s nothing there. I was a little surprised he reacted that way. But other than that, we moved on and we won by 40 points."

--Mark Medina

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Passion in an NBA game mid January. Good for the fans, good for the game.

Laker Faithful,

I wouldn't get too excited by last nights game. Even the Clippers would admit they stunk last night. Lakers played decent and the Clippers stunk up the court. Lakers have not beaten any good team this year when that team was playing well. Lakers have the most talent...but let's see if they can put it together on the floor against a good team playing hard and well. There is no reason to get excited about this game or the Dallas game. Let's see what they do on the road.

Good Morning, Laker Nation.

I hope everyone is having a good morning.

A few early thoughts...

1) Clearly a good win by the Lakers last night. Any 40 point win is a good win and the Clippers aren't an awful team. Cursed? Quite possibly. But not awful.

2) Imagine if we had Craig Smith instead of Josh Powell. Craig Smith is a monster.

3) I've been harping on The Bench Mob as the Achilles' Heel of this team for much of the season, but I've come to the conclusion that the single most important issues for the Lakers to win another Championship this year (after health, of course) is the chemistry between Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol. Seriously, if there is a positive synergy between Bynum and Gasol instead of a "give and take" between these two, we simply cannot be beat. Period. THIS has to be the most important thing in the development of the team. Andrew and Pau bonding and making a strong effort to unselfishly make one another better because no other team in the league has two inside big men as good. We are looking at a pair that is as good as Robinson-Duncan... and, oh yeah, I almost forgot, we've got Kobe, Thriller and Lamar on this team.

Andrew and Pau alone are good enough for us to win a Championship with just the two of them. Really. And then we've got Kobe (probably the GOAT) and Thriller and Lamar. It simply should not be fair to other teams.

But it all starts with Andrew and Pau. The Triangle is an inside-out system. Ergo, it ALL starts with Andrew and Pau. Their chemistry is the literal HEART of this team dominating. These two really need to make a concerted effort to developing unique synergy. If so, we are literally unbeatable.

4) Sylvester Stallone is a pretty interesting actor, for me. He can really act, but he CHOOSES for about half of his films to be simply poor quality films, but DELIGHTFULLY ENTERTAINING. I think he'd be a very interesting person to meet. I imagine he probably has a certain childlike quality to his personality due to the fact that he seems to appreciate "entertainment" over "art." Side note: My ex-girlfriend once punched Sylvester Stallone in the throat when he came onto her too aggressively. Ah, memories of past loves.

5) Shannon Brown better be in the darned dunk contest. Any Lakeraholic will be utterly losing their mind in complete joy if Shannon Brown beats LeBron James in the dunk contest. Oh, by the way, don't expect it to happen. Seriously. It has NOTHING to do with Princess Jimmy. Can you actually imagine David Stern allowing LeZero to LOSE the dunk contest? Really? I mean Shannon Brown could do a 720 degree turnound dunk from midcourt and receive a 9.0 following by LeZero doing a six step "crab dribble" throwdown and LeBron would receive a 10.0 as the judges sweating would nervously hold up their cards and look over at David Stern in the audience, sitting with hands entwined and a deviously sinister toothless grin upon his face.

Still, I'm a big fan of Luke Skywalker. Sometimes the good-spirited underdog does win.

6) Let's all acknowledge that Mark Medina (aka 'Marky Mark el Eternal') is doing a good job. Look at the times he's posting. He posted at 1AM last night AND 7AM this morning. That's commitment. He's working hard. However; I must admonish him to engage more often. I have YET to see Mark challenge a single poster. SOMEONE has to keep us in line. A positive and infuriating element of the Kamenetzky Brothers is that they were a bit arrogant and would frequently call bloggers out who were (in their minds) spewing nonsense. I can't tell you how many arguments I got into with Brian Kamenetzky (who, I will note, was NOT a Lakers fan). Still, discourse is the heart of knowledge.

Marky Mark el Eternal, YOU, believe it or not, are the supposed expert here. So, set things straight at times. Call me out. Call others out. ARGUE!!! Of course, if you argue with me, I'll generally go right at your throat, but I hope you're up to a healthy degree of intellectual competition. It's a good thing and while occasionally infuriating and often bringing out the worst in a person's character, is kind of fun.

7) After last night's win, I am more convinced than ever that the Lakers should be dominating all opponents... if they begin everything with the Gasol-Bynum tandem.

8) Ummm... anyone else notice that Adam Morrison didn't play a single minute last night WITH A 40 POINT LEAD?!?!?!? If he can be traded, he will be traded. I'm a littled saddened by this fact. He seemed like such a special competitor when he was at Gonzaga.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Jon K - Well let me start with my first argument. I can keep the tag line as long as I want after the video. Next time I may have it a minute long (even longer than the video itself) :)

If the Lakers wanted to have a stronger bench they need to think of firing Kupchak. His best draft choice on the team was Bynum. ( Gasol was a ridiculous gift from the Memphis owner and David Stern).

MM,

Why doesn't Jon K write everything as though he is all knowing.
And we are just a bunch of morons. He reminds me of Jay Marioti
who has the same tone.

that should of been why does in the last one

Jon K - Well let me start with my first argument. I can keep the tag line as long as I want after the video. Next time I may have it a minute long (even longer than the video itself) :)
Posted by: Mark Medina | January 16, 2010 at 09:12 AM

LOL!!! You go MARK!!! I might recommend that you LENGTHEN the period at the end of your videos that show your name until Jon K gives up the ghost. LOL! Priceless!

MM,

Why doesn't Jon K write everything as though he is all knowing.
And we are just a bunch of morons. He reminds me of Jay Marioti
who has the same tone.

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 09:20 AM

All knowing....coming from the guy that wants to fire Mitch Kupchak and retire Derek Fisher!!

Haha, what a weirdo....

Marky Mark,

"I can keep the tag line as long as I want after the video. Next time I may have it a minute long (even longer than the video itself) :)"

Okay. Sure. Do whatever you want, if you want people to start thinking you're insecure.

Usually people who puff themselves up too much with a "look at me!" attitude do so because they don't think people acknowledge them enough and/or don't think they're good enough.

So, if you want to extend your tagline from 18% of the video to 55% of the video, I'll just have to assume that you weren't hugged enough as a child.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Laker Faithful,

I wouldn't get too excited by last nights game. Even the Clippers would admit they stunk last night. Lakers played decent and the Clippers stunk up the court. Lakers have not beaten any good team this year when that team was playing well. Lakers have the most talent...but let's see if they can put it together on the floor against a good team playing hard and well. There is no reason to get excited about this game or the Dallas game. Let's see what they do on the road.

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 08:42 AM

Meh. Both were examples of why they're the defending champs. They can suck AND win! But you're right, they can play better.

No no, you're right, we'll go with your prediction that they'll only get better than 1st place. Wait til they go on the road!

DFish,

"And we are just a bunch of morons."

Nope, I respect the vast majority of this blog.

Just not you.

In part because you're a moron.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

#4,

Why is it weird to question Mitch Kupchak ? Have you ever looked at his track record of draft picks ? And trades. Shaq was a gift, he was a free agent who wanted to come to LA. Gasol was a gift...it wasn't a trade where the other team was looking for proper trade value. They wanted expiring contracts !!
Letting Ariza goes was a big mistake. He is younger and better than Artest. Made the big steals in the Denver series, and hit quite a few big 3 pointers !!! Oh yeah forgot, have Fish for the big 3 pointers !! By the way I'm not the only
one calling for Fish to retire, there was a link from somebody on this blog to an article that said the same thing !!

What is the friggin obsession with Fisher ? He can no longer play !!!

#4,

"Haha, what a weirdo...."

I find it peculiar that "DFish" uses his moniker to demean a four-time Champion Laker Great.

I mean, one can make a healthy argument that Derek Fisher isn't helping the Lakers and should retire and all that. I, personally, don't agree with that argument AT ALL, but I can understand if someone feels a player isn't helping the team and wants to discuss that.

However, it's the SNIDE tone this guy uses. It's utterly disrespectful to a player who has played an important role IN FOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS. And, it should be noted that Kobe has won a Championship without Shaq, but never without Derek Fisher.

This guy communicates with ZERO respect for that FACT.

If he is that self-absorbed and disrespectful of a player who has played his heart out as a Laker, what is he like in personal relationships? Is anything (or anyone) good enough for him?

Probably not.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Good Morning Charles...Good Morning Everyone...

ah basking in the afterglow of a 40 point butt kicking, as it were, seemingly...

great to see the Spanaird back and that Bynum appeared to play well and co-exist with his fellow big man---when, and I do say when, these two dudes really learn to play together well, it's going to be hell to pay for the rest of the league...and rest assured it's coming, verily yeah, verily...

the real cause of the Baron Davis / Fisher scuffle was Fisher questioning the thickness (rather lack of it) of Baron's beard, apparently a real sore subject with Baron...

Dunleavy's should really fire his taylor, seemingly...

can't rmember his name, but the guard the Clips put in at the last really worked hard for the Lakers...

does anyone know the Lakers record on MLK day? it seems we always play, just like Christmas...

"fixing a hole where the rain gets in, stops my mind from wandering"

"you must go into the forest and chop down the biggest tree with....a herring!"

AS ALWAYS, AS EVER, YET ANOTHER GREAT DAY (AND CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON) TO BE A LAKER FAN !!!

GO LAKERS !!!

I posted this originally in the wrong place so this is a re-post. My apologies for making this long post LONGER!

Kobe Bryant! He seemed like an adept Point Guard last night. I had the feeling that Kobe had some sort of investment in getting the ball to Bynum. I was excited to see Kobe passing the ball and it seemed contageous. I saw alot of people making the extra pass.

Getting back to Kobe and Bynum, last night seemed different somehow. MAYBE Kobe keyed on Bynum because the Clippers were without Kayman. MAYBE Kobe was the facilitator because his back wasn't up to snuff just yet. And MAYBE Kobe didn't want to burden Gasol with heavy lifting and so he keyed on Bynum.

HOWEVER, I had this deep feeling that somehow Kobe was accepting Bynum in a sort of "Band of Brothers" kind of way. Almost saying, "You have proven yourself to me and I will now give you a shot at being one of US."

Maybe it's just me, but I had the feeling that for last night, Bynum was given full membership in "Kobe's Gang". Thinking on it, Fish has impeccible credentials, Artest is a proven and grizzled vet, and Kobe simply loves Gasol. Lamar comes off the bench, but Kobe trusts Lamar. He has earned his stripes.

I wonder if last night was an audition, a temporary thing because the Clips didn't have Kaman, because of Kobe's back and because Kobe wanted an easier night for Gasol (who actually played well!).

As many have mentioned here before, Kobe would make an exciting Point Guard for us! MAYBE he thinks that with two bigs, HE is the one that has to change the game to incorporate that much size and bulk. Maybe KOBE is the one that has to alter something to make it work.

With Kobe's back hurting, it was natural for him to become "The Facilitator". Maybe it's nothing and I'm making too much of it. Maybe last night was just a window of "What's Possible". I'll tell you what though, unless Kobe accepts "The Boy", he has NO SHOT at becoming a force for us.

Last night gave me a new perspective. I can now see what some of the guys here are talking about. From now on, when the Bynumites are going on about his "Potential", I will have a new perspective. It will help me to listen to what they are saying instead of hearing nails on a chalk board and feeling enraged by the drivel.

Now, I will be watching to see if Bynum has a fair shot at full memebership into the club. Let's not kid ourselves though. Something happened last night. Something big. NOW we shall see if Kobe's pursuit of headlines and his G.O.A.T. shot can take a back seat to "The Possibility" of Bynum being incorporated into the offense.

Truthfully, Kobe has played with a dominant big before. He knows how it works.

Posted by: JohnnyV | January 16, 2010 at 08:10 AM

Jon K,

Bottom line is " You can't handle the truth " !!!

DFish,

Only a fool argues with a fool. Thus, I am ending all future discussions with you.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

#4,

Why is it weird to question Mitch Kupchak ? Have you ever looked at his track record of draft picks ? And trades. Shaq was a gift, he was a free agent who wanted to come to LA. Gasol was a gift...it wasn't a trade where the other team was looking for proper trade value. They wanted expiring contracts !!
Letting Ariza goes was a big mistake. He is younger and better than Artest. Made the big steals in the Denver series, and hit quite a few big 3 pointers !!! Oh yeah forgot, have Fish for the big 3 pointers !! By the way I'm not the only
one calling for Fish to retire, there was a link from somebody on this blog to an article that said the same thing !!

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 09:57 AM

Wow. Just wow. Your diatribe proves that you do think you're all knowing and yet you vilified Jon K for that. Start with the man in the mirror, man (haha).

Who cares what you think of Mitch!

You just can't handle the truth!

Posted by: Jon K. | January 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

SNIDE....appropriate word.

more thoughts seemingly,

I find myself really rooting for Mbenga to shoot the ball more--I surprisingly have a lot of confidence in his shooting, as it were...

wish he could get some more minutes, along with Powell, who albeit has struggled as of late, both need some more minutes, but where are they going to come from other than injuries and blow outs...hard to have a 10 man rotation...

Sasha may be coming around, seems to be more relaxed, shooting better etc., what a bonus that would be to have the Machine fully functunal again, shooting threes consistently and stretching the defense...

Jon K. I think Morrison wasn't dressed last night, due to flu maybe and /or just being the 13th dude and only 12 can be activivated etc.

overall it is really hard to develop and play your entire bench, but it needs to be done somehow...every minute played by bench players is an investment...

Phil seems to be toying with some of them coming in at various times and they should be put into meaningful times of the games, but always with at least 3 starters (except garbage time etc.)

still will be very interesting to see if Mitch can upgrade the bench any this year...

Artest needs to shoot more--he is our best 3 point shooter and he seems to be a consistent mid range jump shooter...

enough crap from me, as it were, seemingly...

GO LAKERS !!!

Good game for the Lakers. Bone Head Baby Bynum was more assertive but should of been a lot more dominant going against a clipplerless center. His defense well is practically non existent. Anyone notice how LO doesnt play as good at home than the road. Hmmm there must be some distraction at home called a wife!!!!

Great game from start to finish. I agree with Floyd, something happened last night between our two big's that can be an astronomical step towards our chances at repeating this june. I'm glad Bynum confessed to being lackadaisical in prior games because of Gasol's efficiency. We can all just hope that they continue with this chemistry because the sky is the limit once those two figure out how to play together.

The bench IMO has gotten a lot better aswell. Brown is developing a lethal mid-range game to go along with his high-flying act. We all know Jordan has potential but i don't think he gets it when he's out there yet. I'm yet to see him make consistent smart decisions like, slowing it down when we need to use the clock or working Andrew in the post when ever the outside shots aren't falling. Luke was missed SO much because as soon as he returned I could see the ball movement improved vastly! If we continue to implement the post as the first option from the bench play I know they'll earn the confidence of Phil to get more minutes out on the floor and give the starters the rest they deserve. I understand that our bench are all young guys ready to run on every possession but they need to be making smart decisions every time and show the experience that being on a championship team brings.

We all know that January is when the season really starts, everything was all a warm-up up until now. I know the Lakers will make the adjustments they need and we'll all be doing the celebratory-dance down Figueroa St come June.

I got thursday circled in my calendar, I'm hoping they do too!
GO LAKERS!!!

Johnny, I already praised your post down below and I reiterate: extremely pleasant to' read.
On this thread I can also underline ALL that has been written by JonK (though Jon... You know how I like you... But that note earlier about Germans being prone to genocyde wasn't really easy to' read. I would avoid such generalization. Sounds scarily like something Goering could say towards other populations back in those horrble days... I am sure that was just an hyperbole coming out from understandeable fan frustration, but still... I didn't like to' read it at all...).

I also agree with #4. Am I alone in thinkin this or the way undeserved and unproven hatred DFish pours on... DFish sounds way, way too similar with SmushFarmar?

Well, some awkward folklore can make this place various. Though maybe... Various not always and not completely has to' equal *good*.

I won't write much cos my night at the mountains involves a Wii gaming with Beatles Rock Band and Band Hero followed by some nice friendly blackjack, but I want to thank MM for giving me chances to' hear Pau multiple Times in these posts.

Love this guy so much.
I am delighted the chemistry with Drew is showin off as a makeable thing. I have no doubts about it cos Pau is not only impressively talented but he's Smart and humble enough to' sacrifice a bit of himself for making Drew blossom more confident about his team role.
This because he wants Lakers to' win.

Yesterday I saw a frame of image where Drew and Pau were laughing sweetly from the bench. Luke was pointing something and they hit nearby one another and whispered something and then smirked, and you could see they were happy and okay with one another and with the team pace of the night.

That was so sweet to' see. Almost as much as Kobe's friendly hand caressing the head of a supersweaty Lamar later.

This team is precious. There is something magic bounding these guys together. Sure everyone has a preferred one here... But in the end these Are our guys and they think they Are more than able to' win again.

And I am a believer too.

No trades. I just ask for health. It's all we need to' succeed. The rest. Might it be' talent, bball maestry and IQ, will, leadership, bonding and force... All of that we have it in such abundancy truly it can get just so unfair to' others. And I LIKE it. That's the way I like it.

Have all a great day :)

"What is the friggin obsession with Fisher ?"
- DFish

Yeah, some of us are so obsessed with him we use his name for our own nom-de-blog.

Sorry, dude, I know that's gonna leave a mark, but since I saw you floundering on this sole topic of interest for you, I decided to do it just for the halibut...

West was the GM that brought Shaq here not Kupchak.
Kupchak made the trade that brought Ariza here which everyone agrees was a great trade.
I'm a big Trevor fan but I still think Artest has been an upgrade. He's better overall defender than Trevor, a better passer, has a better BB IQ than Trevor. Until the Christmas Day disaster, the Lakers were playing better D than they were last year at the same time.

"Ummm... anyone else notice that Adam Morrison didn't play a single minute last night WITH A 40 POINT LEAD?!?!?!?"
- Jon K.

Well, isn't it self-evident? We were up 40 points! Why would Phil risk injury to our White Mamba if the game is well in hand?

Also, I hear Fish is going to be suspended for 3 games. Stern reviewed the game film and has ruled that Fish committed a Flagrant Stare II.

Lakers have the most talent...but let's see if they can put it together on the floor against a good team playing hard and well. There is no reason to get excited about this game or the Dallas game. Let's see what they do on the road.

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 08:42 AM

So, DFish, let me get this straight - Dallas has one of the best records in the west, and they play hard and well, and we beat them on the road (In Dallas, if I remember correctly).

What exactly are you trying to say here?

Anyone notice how LO doesnt play as good at home than the road. Hmmm there must be some distraction at home called a wife!!!!

Posted by: George | January 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM

George - do you have any empirical data that attempts to 1) back up this claim, and 2) show that the only thing that affects LO's play at home is his wife? If not, I'd retract your remark. It can easily come off as you being sexist.

@Jon K : GREAT points about the importance of synergy of Bynum + Gasol = unbeatable. Hard to argue that point.

@Phil Jackson :

"Most of the time we give him the ball early in the game," Jackson said of Bynum. "There’s no doubt about it, he starts quickly. He usually has the stamina to go good in the first quarter. That’s why we emphasize that."

So I guess he is saying that Bynum has fatigue issues after the first quarter?? I really had not noticed that. I have noticed questionable 4th quarter defense from Bynum, but if that can be blamed on fatigue, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

Bynum was awesome last nite. Forget the Bosh stuff, we need a presence down low that can back in, up and under (or simply go over and through) and throw down those MONSTER DUNKS. They totally fire up the crowd (home games only of course), teammates, and demoralize opponents.

Doug

( Gasol was a ridiculous gift from the Memphis owner and David Stern).

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 09:17 AM

Again, do you have any empirical evidence to back this claim? Unless you are actually David Stern or Mitch, you more than likely do not.

Why don't you think first before just spewing nonsense? Or at least frame it in a more conservative manner - something like "I think that the Lakers are really fortunate to have traded for Gasol".

What is the friggin obsession with Fisher ? He can no longer play !!!

Posted by: DFish | January 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM

DFish,

Actually, if you check the video, Derek Fisher does have the ability to play - he wasn't suspended for the game, nor was he grounded by his parents for not eating his veggies. In actuality, Derek Fisher played last night (and every game of the season, if my memory serves me correctly).

So what are you trying to say again?

I was seriously impressed with Fish's game last night. For him to be effective, I don't think he needs to score all that much, especially when the shots are falling for Kobe and Thriller. But he led the team in both assists and rebounds last night in just under 20 minutes of burn and neutralized Baron Davis with his tenacious D. Phil was right to award him the game ball. In Fish we/(I) trust!

regarding Fisher :

"Jackson had also proclaimed the "game ball" went to guard Derek Fisher for his six assists and season-high eight rebounds, which was more than Bynum's seven and Gasol's six."

Nuff said. The take of a 10 time championship coach trumps any other opinion.

Doug


Dfish, you sound like a little b*tch!!

George, the Baby Bynum played against a centerless Clippers team, not a clipperless center team.

dan

was seriously impressed with Fish's game last night. For him to be effective, I don't think he needs to score all that much, especially when the shots are falling for Kobe and Thriller. But he led the team in both assists and rebounds last night in just under 20 minutes of burn and neutralized Baron Davis with his tenacious D. Phil was right to award him the game ball. In Fish we/(I) trust!

Posted by: jefe101 | January 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Are you frigging kidding me, Fisher normally gets 1 or 2 assists a night and 1 or 2 baskets and maybe a couple of rebounds !!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we get an unbiased opinion from anyone that knows basketball !!!

DFish, relax - all I said was that I was impressed with Fish's game last night. Why is that so wrong? Do you want him to fail? Would that make you happy? If so, that's sad.

I dont think there are enough balls for this Laker bunch. I mean, enough shots for everyone. If Kobe can limit himself to 20 shots per game maybe some things can really develop here. Pau & Bynum should get 20 shots/game also, so they get used up fast. Ideally, Ron and Lamar need to get enough shots to get in a flow too, so whats that leave for the rest. I'd kinda like to see the Lakers play 5-6 games without Kobe just to see how they respond.

DFish:

First and foremost, I believe that everyone is allowed to have they're own opinion.

BUT: Derek Fisher is not a player who plays for stats. A point guard has never gotten a lot of assists in the triangle offense anyways. What Fisher brings is the intangibles. Leadership, dedication, clutch. Derek Fisher is a player you can rely on. That is why he should play. every night.

Long time since i've posted here, i'll be surprised if anybody remembers me?

DFish,

I think you might have missed something.

You spend all this energy attacking Kupchak and the bench. Maybe nobody has told you, but this is the bench that won the NBA Championship last season. Luke, Jordan, Lamar, and Shannon all contributed a lot to that title. Even Sasha and Powell contributed a little bit.

People are always raving about how good a GM Kevin Pritchard is in Portland. How many titles did Portland have in the last decade?

And everyone talks about how good a GM RC Buford is in San Antonio. The Spurs won 3 titles in the last decade. The Lakers won 4 titles, made it to the finals two more times, and beat San Antonio 4 out of 5 times they faced them in the playoffs.

Mitch (and that guy who preceded him... what was his name?) have both done a very good job as GMs. Mitch is at least partially responsible for bringing in Bynum (soon to be an all-star center), Gasol (an all-star PF), Ariza, Shannon Brown, Luke Walton, Jordan Farmar, Sasha, and Ronny Turiaf. And all of that with just one lottery pick (and not a #1 pick, but a #10). Thankfully, the owner is willing to spend frivolously to keep good players with the team, but Mitch has built a powerhouse team that has already won one title and will be challenging for the title for the next 4 to 5 years.

So show some respect to the NBA Champion bench and the GM who brought them together.

Kristoffer in Norway,

I remember you. It's been a while. Why haven't you been posting?

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Kristoffer,

Judging by you comments, I can tell Norway is not a hotbed of basketball !

As many have mentioned here before, Kobe would make an exciting Point Guard for us! MAYBE he thinks that with two bigs, HE is the one that has to change the game to incorporate that much size and bulk. Maybe KOBE is the one that has to alter something to make it work.

With Kobe's back hurting, it was natural for him to become "The Facilitator". Maybe it's nothing and I'm making too much of it. Maybe last night was just a window of "What's Possible". I'll tell you what though, unless Kobe accepts "The Boy", he has NO SHOT at becoming a force for us.

Outstanding observation Johnny V.

The idea, the concept, the possibilities implied should Kobe alter his game, morph, evolve into our PG. Become the facilitator for the numerous offensive weapons this team has, extending his career even, by not being the burden carrier/leading scorer, but rather take advantage of and enable the 4 (LO,Pau,Drew,Shannon) potent offensive weapons on this team besides himself.....scary.

I've often thought that this team could go 65-17 and win a title with Drew as a 25/10 guy, kobe averaging 20/8 assists.

It's a concept, but an intriguing one no doubt.

Hi! Basically, I dont know why I haven't been posting more. But I will now! Studying abroad now, so I'm in Lyon for the semester. That means plenty of Laker-time :)

My observations: Every time Kobe thinks as a facilitator and not a scorer, the Lakers play better basketball.

Oh, and by the way. Keep on trolling, DFish

I think Kobe as a point guard is a bad idea, because he isn't fast enough to guard the Chris Pauls and Deron Williams or Tony Parkers. But as a facilitating shooting guard, awesome!

Jon K is friggin' Clippers fan.

Jon K=perennial loser ^_^

"DFish" is really Luis Scola of the Rockets. He's still bitter from bulldozed by a guy who's a foot shorter than him in last years playoffs.

He also sounds like the guy Jon K describes as "insecure."

Kristoffer hit on the key factor for whether the Lakers win or not.

Kobe must pass if someone else has a better shot. Pau and Drew shoot a much higher percentage than Kobe, esp. in Q4 when Kobe is in takeover mode.

If Kobe passes, everyone else will pass (not just Luke and Pau), because they know if they pass, cut and get open, they will get a much better shot and boost their stats.

No Laker player, coach or L.A. journalist (except Adande and KBros, but only after Kobe missed a hundred shots in 5 games) has any cohanas to stand up to Kobe when he's in takeover mode and clearly hurting the team.

Kobe is the best player in history when he plays the game the right way (which is most of the time) but he's not Magic Johnson.

No one will ever question Kobe's selfishness to his face. They just say things like "the other players must stand up to Kobe if they're open" and other b.s.

Yeah, players who do that get f*g traded!


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