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Lakers, Spurs share esteemed success this past decade

With the Lakers visiting the San Antonio Spurs on Tuesday night, the accomplishments both organizations have earned this past decade appear nearly impeccable.

The Lakers won four NBA titles, including a three-peat from 2000 to 2002. The Spurs won three, one in 2003, 2005 and 2007. Although the Spurs had 576 wins to the Lakers' 530, the Lakers had 98 playoff victories and were the only team this past decade to win at least 65 games in two seasons. Nonetheless, the Lakers' 2004-05 season featured only the fifth time the franchise missed the playoffs. The Spurs, meanwhile, were the only franchise to win at least 50 games and make the postseason every year this past decade. 

Lots of the success came on the backs of likely future Hall-of-Fame players, such as the Lakers' Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal and the Spurs' David Robinson (current HOF) and Tim Duncan. Their coaches -- the Lakers' Phil Jackson (10) and the Spurs' Gregg Popovich (four) -- are the only two active coaches with multiple championships. And then there's the value of the teams, with the Lakers worth a league-high $607 million and the Spurs worth $398 million, according to Forbes

With both teams sharing rich history this past decade, the Lakers acknowledged they keep tabs on the Spurs' accomplishments.

-- Mark Medina

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BLOG CRUE
Looks like the injury bugs continues. It'll be nice to see the Lake Show all back if and when that happens. I guess it's part of the game. Let's get that Texas-2-step and come back with 31 victories.

Colorado loves our World Champion Lakers!

CHRIS BOSH, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING? KOOL-AID, VOLUME TWO
http://tinyurl.com/ye596gj
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Pretty interesting take on Chris Bosh for Andrew Bynum and other current trade rumors.
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The author does a good job of reminding readers of Bosh’s alleged softness. He is not a shot blocker or assists maker. Personally, he is a guy whose stats would fall dramatically on the Lakers. All those who think he is going to come over and average 21-8 would be sorely disappointed. Great recap of when Shaq called out Bosh for being soft. Aside from the financial stupidity of the trade, it would make the Lakers a weaker defensive and mentally softer team – and that’s not how you win chips.
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Tom

The Bynum legionnaires came out in droves, nothing wrong with that. This issue will be the blog topic for the next 5 weeks till Feb 18th, 3pm. In a real estate lingo....there are two offers out there namely:

Tracy McGrady expiring # 23M contract for Bosh - Rockets
Bynum plus Farmar and Adam for Bosh - Lakers

Below you will read Berger Sphere of CBS Sports

• The countdown to the end of the Chris Bosh era in Toronto has officially begun. The Rockets, who have Tracy McGrady’s insurance-protected $23 million expiring deal, are believed to be interested, and sources believe there could be legs to a scenario that would send Bosh to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum. Bynum’s base-year compensation status complicates matters slightly, but sources believe a workable deal could be consummated. The next five weeks are critical for the Raptors, who at 19-19 are still very much in the Eastern Conference playoff picture. If they fall out of contention, the temptation to deal Bosh and get something in return rather than lose him as an unrestricted free agent summer and get nothing could rise to irresistible levels. A trade would give Bosh the option of signing an extension with his new team rather than opting out of his contract and signing a new deal after the season. That option also exists with the Raptors, but there’s been no movement in that direction.

My interest....Lakers will win games on the road when their a**es are on fire. Trade or no trade, I don't care less my objective is winning games and whoever can do it, I'm for him. We don't know how Gasol/Bosh would work out nor sure of Bynum's future as another Wilt or Kareem. All of that are pure speculations. Like last night because it was a hot topic, we got a double double production at 18 rebounds compared to 4 rebounds average in the past. Yeah, put more heat in order to neutralize coldness.

don't spread it around, but i heard a rumor that the nuggets were dangling johan petro and might be about to get jonas jerebko from the pistons. works for both teams.

what do you guys think?


I can't help but wonder about this comparison and wanted to get some reaction from Laker Nation:

How many games would (will) Kobe have missed with the identical injury of Pau?

AND

How many games would (will) Pau have missed with the identical injury(ies) of Kobe?

Is there any doubt??

Celtics lose on home court and the Clippers own the longest winning streak in the league.

I respect the Spurs.

There aren't many other franchises I can say that about.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!!

LakerTom,

I agree. Despite my trepidations about Andrew's lack of effort on occasion, I have faith in the kid. I am hopeful that someday he will be the face of the franchise, which, I think, would be fantastic.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Edwin, motivational issues aside, I simply don't see a Bosh for Bynum trade. It's a "good press" rumor but it just doesn't feel serious. At any rate, I honestly feel that Drew's going to be a major factor in our success going foward. After all the time and effort that's been invested in forming this kid, I'd hate to see someone else reap the rewards.

LakerTom,

nice article.

just so we're clear on this.

http://tinyurl.com/yjnhnxj

C.B. has been in the top 10% in defensive rebounding for 4 - 5 years.
4 all star appearances.
top 10 in total rebounds the last 2 years.


also fron draft express:

A capable post defender that can do some nice things on the block. Has the ability to step out and effective defender almost any post player when they face up or catch the ball out on the perimeter. Matches up much better with power forwards who prefer to set up on the outside. Has great lateral quickness for a player his size. Can hedge screens effectively and guard many players when forced to switch. Will get roughed up by back to the basket centers. Has a very hard time holding position due to his lack of size. Isn’t forced to bang as much as he used to with Jermaine O’Neal around. Will stay with his man’s post moves getting some blocks on the ball, but also committing some fouls. Rebounds the ball and block shots at a respectable rate, but isn’t a major standout in either. Needs to show better anticipation when coming over from the weakside. Has cut down on his fouls significantly over time, but may never be strong enough to be a consistently effective defender.

Edwin,

you wrote: My interest....Lakers will win games on the road when their a**es are on fire. Trade or no trade, I don't care less my objective is winning games and whoever can do it, I'm for him. We don't know how Gasol/Bosh would work out nor sure of Bynum's future as another Wilt or Kareem. All of that are pure speculations. Like last night because it was a hot topic, we got a double double production at 18 rebounds compared to 4 rebounds average in the past. Yeah, put more heat in order to neutralize coldness.

my response: nice. I agree.

I am in HEAVEN!
I have thought for some time that Pau and Bynum don't play well together. I love em both! But I think the team doesn't do well with them both starting.

In truth, if we keep Bynum I am totally ok with that. HOWEVER, if we can upgrade the team by trading Bynum, I am also all for it!. I don't get the TOTAL commitment to Bynum some of us have. I have been complaining about it for about 6 months now.

I am seeing Kobe, arguably a Greatest of all time candidate on our team paired with Gasol, one of the VERY best at either PF OR Center, and our new stud Artest,and Lamar.... I mean come on... Lamar.... let's talk about Lamar.

I am TOTALLY fine with Lamar starting at the PF position. When Lamar wants to.... he is a rebounding machine! He can slash to the hoop, he can shoot a jumper and he can slam with the best of them. He can handle the ball and bring it up court whenever the team needs him to.

So, all this said...what to about the kid Bynum? I understand that he is a favorite of the Junior Buss Jim. But am I not the customer? Don't I have a say? Okay, if that's so, then here goes, "Jimmy, I see your point that Bynum has game and that we can surely build around him. I can also see that YOU saw his "potential" and YOU were right on in not just choosing Bynum, but defending him against Kobe when he went "Rogue" against him. But Jimmy, let's be honest, your dad wants that 17th Championship BEFORE he passes on to the next life. So, out of love for your dad, let's put the Lakers in a position to excel for the next 5 years.

Jimmy, let's win one (or 5) for the old man. Let's use your incredible pick Bynum to get the missing piece so that we can dominate for the next few years. If we have to "Rebuild" after Kobe retires, I am okay with that. I stayed with you during the Seadale Threat years, the Nick Van Excel years, the Cedric Ceballos years. Seriously dude, we'll be ok.

Jimmy, if your ego "Needs" thjis one and and you NEED to keep Bynum no matter what.....okay, I get it. But DANG, 4 or 5 championships in a row just seems SO ATTRACTIVE!

Jimmy, just think about it will you?

Andrew needs to learn with; experience and maybe some guidance the techniques of post play. I would like if he lost the brace.

Repost:

Laker Fambam,

All I'll say about Bynum is that he better and he must play the way he did last night on a consistent basis. He needs to bring it on both ends of the floor and most importantly learn how to play alongside Pau Gasol even it means just grabbing boards and playing solid defense. For now his offense will be a bonus, but we need more of what he did last night.

I'm for any trade that will improve team chemistry and help us win titles because that's the bottom line, winning. As much as I like and support AB and I wish for him to succeed, no one player is bigger or greater than the team. I believe that the Lakers will and should do what is in the best interest of the team. Last night is what I've envisioned AB doing night in and night out, but he has to get his mind and attitude right. It's squarely on his shoulders to prove his critics wrong and help the Lakers become a stronger team.

I've always said that Drew has a lot to improve upon and that only he can answer the questions concerning his character, passion and team approach. If PJ can stick with him, so can I. But he's got to give us more than he has so far this season. Hopefully last night was a sign of things to come and not an aberration.

Go Lakers!!! Purple and Gold forever!!!

Posted by: Nemaia Faletogo | January 11, 2010 at 08:15 PM

The Pistons would be crazy to give up Jonas Jerebko for Johan Petro. Jerebko has been one of the surprise players this year for the Pistons and will only get better. The Laker scouts were also pretty high on Jerebko and probably would've selected him if he were taken earlier in the draft. Things are really heating up in regards to trade talk as the trade deadline approaches. There should be some interesting moves made.

Nemaia

nice post.

Dave M,

Hey, I'm with you. I also don't believe that the rumor will have wings to fly or feet to move. It is just a Laker story that media love to dwell and make money out of it. What is good about the story, it is rude awakening in the Laker kingdom that nobody is indispensable if the players name is not Kobe, the great one (the great ball hog according to KL, the beast) lol!

If Lakers win more games and get home court advantage during the playoffs via Bynum, so be it. Bynum retains. If in the next 18 games before Feb 18th, Lakers lose 50% of road games, our position may be shaky perhaps trade winds might change the paradigm of the competition. If Mitch/Colangelo go for the trade, that will be great too. So if and only if losses are incurred that winds of change may occur, however if Lakers continue winning, why change? (an Irish proverb).

Trade Idea: Keep Bynum - Beef up bench and Point in Trade with Chicago.

Chicago is rumored to want to shed salary in attempt to get Bosh or Wade in the off season. They will get rid of Hinrich (3years), Noah (2 years) and Thomas (1 yr) and build around Rose.

We should take those three players for the 10 million in expiring contracts of Morrison, Farmer, Powell and Benga and Sasha's 2 yr @ 5 million. Works in the Trade Machine. Chicago could buy out or trade Sasha and potentially save 10-15 million in salary for the summer.

Lakers would start: Hinrich, Kobe, Artest, Pau & Bynum. And the bench would Consist of Fish, Shannon, Luke, Lamar, Tyrus Thomas, Noah.

We would also have only 11 on the roster and could pull a veteran free agent or young D league player or two up.

Thoughts???

Marky Mark,

Dude, we DON'T need to see your name for 12 seconds at the end of the video.

We get it.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

My God! Mike Bresnahan's take on the Lakers today was absolutely entertaining. Enjoyable even. Wow.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

{Most Bizarre Lakeraholic Dream Ever. I Think Northeast Ohio Is Causing My Sanity To Erode.}

So, yeah. I had the most bizarre dream ever and I think Laker Nation may be the only one to appreciate it, so I'm going to share it, even though I feel a bit odd about it.

So...

Sasha Vujacic, Ron Artest, and I are working in a super-market together. Not just any super-market, but a mega-market and the shelves are like 20 feet high. (Think of a Home Depot, but with nothing but food.)

I walk up to Sasha and see him crying. Not just crying, SOBBING.

I say to him, "Sasha, what's wrong?"

"It's Ron. He beats me."

"What? What do you mean he beats you?"

"He cheats on me with women! And he tells me how much he likes it! It just breaks my heart! And then when I complain, he beats me!"

I'm in total shock. "You guys are gay?!?!?"

Sasha, still sobbing, "Yeah, we're married!"

"YOU'RE MARRIED?!?!?! When the hell did this happen?"

"At the beginning of the season! Don't you know?"

"No, I didn't know!"

So, I stand there in shock for a bit and then try to console Sasha, who's just a wreck and I start to get angry seeing how broken up Sasha is after he recounts some episodes where Ron has been particularly cruel to him.

I say to Sasha, "Hold on. It's okay. I'm going to talk to Ron about this."

I go look for Ron, feeling angry, but wanting to know his side of the story because there are always two sides of the story.

I find Ron helping some customers and when he's done, he pleasantly turns to me and states, "Hey Jon! How're ya doing?"

"I'm okay, Ron. Hey, man, can I talk with you in private for a while?"

"Sure."

And then Ron and I begin walking down these 20 foot high super-market aisles filled with canned goods looking for a place where there are no customers and I'm preparing myself to speak diplomatically with Ron at the same time getting ready to kick the crap out of him if he responds in a callous way to his mistreatment of Sasha Vujacic.

And then I woke up, shook my head in disbelief and started laughing.

Yeah. I'm a Lakeraholic. I'm not sure it's healthy.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!!

Tonight we play against a truly honourable team. I have a soft spot for Spurs, even though we have battled them hard they really have my sympathy upon them.

They're in the delicate phase of an incoming rebuilding so they can be' either super dangerous or super inconsistent. But they still a friend team to' me.
If anyone here hate on them, sorry. I like them a lot.

About Drew, I keep hearing round here all this is very unlikely.

I still uncertain about what I would wish for in case of makeability. Think that I would still prefer to keep Bynum. Even if at times he totally craves fleshes out my bones, slowly and bloody.

In the end, I gotta agree with Edwin: we will see and till feb 18 is all good for journalists isn't it?

One last note. Everytime I think back if 04-05 season I shiver and freeze inside. What a nightmare. And I was in USA that year. To study. Nightmare indeed. If it hadn't been the most special of my musical years, I would totally ask Above Graciousness to erase it in full from my mind... Spooky NBA memories. Brrrr. Iced out. :/

THE WHOLE IS GREATER
Down with Dfish, Down with the Beast, Come on Crue’ we need every Chess piece.
The whole is greater than the sum of it’s parts, Don’t split the team just as Dynasty 4 starts.
If Phil is satisfied and Kobe is to, then lets wait and see what this team can do.
The ride is not even half way done, This is the team with which the title was won
With the 1st, 2nd and 3rd options ill, The best record in the Lakers have still
What will happen when they get well, the Lakers will give the league pure hell.
If change is needed and we need to act, I place my trust in Mitch Kupchak
But until Mitch has something to say, With this team I would hope we would stay
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Good morning,

So, AB17 is still a Laker and apparently likely to stay so. So be it. But where there's smoke, there's fire. Maybe we just can't see through the haze yet. The Texas Two-Step may be more than just two games in the W-L column for the season. We may not see Gasol, Artest, or Walton. But we will see what the rest of the team is made of.

As the All-Star break gets closer, so does a definite front-office and coaching staff analysis of the roster and its chances to repeat.

I'm still not convinced that this squad, as is, can go all the way. I'd like it to. Like almost any fan, I tend to get attached to these players as the season progresses.

A happy surprise is the tandem of Farmar and Brown. The more they play together, the more good things seem to happen. The Texas Two-Step will be a great test of whether they can do it on the road. When Gasol, Artest, and Walton are all healthy again, we may see enough ooomph to generate sufficient momentum towards the Finals.

But no one's talked about the real wild card: the vacant 14th and 15th roster slots. There may be a solid vet released at the trading deadline who would be a worthwhile insurance policy heading into the post-season. No long-term financial downside, but a possible performance upside at little extra cost. When you're spending as much money as the Buss family is, a roll of the dice towards another Championship isn't a bad gamble.

Go Lakers!

SAY HELLO TO POP
Tonight the two teams of the Decade meet, Timmy vs. Beast man it’s going to be sweet
Let’s see what the nay Sayers have to say, When Bynum the Beast blows Duncan away.
I really admire their coach Pop, but his constant whining just has to stop.
The Spurs have always been a class act, Unlike the Boston Septics and that’s a fact
But win this game we must do, because this team we don’t want to give confidence to.
They have Reloaded and just between us, In the playoffs they are gonna be dangerous
Show them who’s master and make them obey, Rip out their hearts, it’s the only way
But even while you’re ripping do it with a smile, Because we’ll meet again in a lil while
Tip your hat as you leave to Pop, And get ready for hell with Dallas at the next stop

Mamba.
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Great job on Say Hello to Pop. And put me on the Let’s Ride with what Got us Here Bandwagon.
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And then I woke up, shook my head in disbelief and started laughing.Posted by: Jon K. | January 12, 2010 at 03:58 AM


JON K. LISTEN VERY CAEFULLY, YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM Princess Jimmitis. It is a terrible disease that is caught be being in the same city with Princess Jimmy too long. JON K. I implore you, run, RUN I SAY immediately to dvd player and immerse yourself in the complete Laker Championship Run tape. Let Kobe Wan heal you of your terrible affliction. Your undercover valour in surveiling Princess Jimmy by God is more than any human being should be required to bear. Jon K. we owe a debt of gratitude to you sir, but hurry, HURRY and put that Laker DVD on. I can't tell you what happens in the final stages of Princess Jimmyitis I can only say OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!

Mamba24, put me on that LETS RIDE WITH WHAT GOT US HERE – BANDWAGON. In fact, put me on riding shotgun for you, because it looks like we've got a plethora of pusillanimous potshot anti-Bynum banditos circling us. No matter...

Wherever there is injustice...you will find us,
Wherever there is 4th quarter suffering...we'll be there,
Wherever the No-mo-Bynum banditos beckon to break up the brotherhood of Laker Nation...you will find...

THE LAKER AMIGOS!!!

Let's ride!

ok, so that one didn't work. now i have to pick two other random guys off the trade machine.

Bone head Baby Bynum will be exposed again! No defense-lay ups after lay ups , no rebounds, unless they are right to him and he doesnt have to jump more than 5 inches. Lets just hope he doesnt pull a Portland. (misses by 1 ft on a 3 ft shoot)
and lets not forget his prone to picking up fouls on a stupid up and under move by opposing centers or a nudge because his lazy butt doesnt move. Other than this, he is a great player!!!

because it looks like we've got a plethora of pusillanimous potshot anti-Bynum banditos circling us. No matter...Wherever there is injustice...you will find us, Wherever there is 4th quarter suffering...we'll be there, Wherever the No-mo-Bynum banditos beckon to break up the brotherhood of Laker Nation...you will find... Posted by: CornerJ | January 12, 2010 at 08:25 AM

OOOOOOOHHH WEEEE!! I'M READY TO RUN THRU A BRICK WALL WIYH YOU CORNER J. And I know I don't have to say it...OUT FREAKIN STANDING MY BROTHER!!!!
MAMBA24

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(01) MAMBA24 - OWNER
(02) LAKERTOM - DRIVER - put me on the Let’s Ride with what Got us Here Bandwagon
(03) CORNER-J – RIDING SHOTGUN - Wherever there is injustice...you will find us, Wherever there is 4th quarter suffering...we'll be there, Wherever the No-mo-Bynum banditos beckon to break up the brotherhood of Laker Nation...you will find...THE LAKER AMIGOS!!! Let's ride!
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Mamba24,

Princess Jimmyitis, huh?

That must be it.

Urgh.

What do we play for? RINGS!!!!

Lakers Today... Lakers Tomorrow... Lakers Forever.

GO LAKERS!!!

Mamba 24 - Please put me on the LET'S RIDE WITH WHAT GOT US HERE bandwagon.

I totally agree with you statement, too. If Phil isn't zinging him in the press and Kobe isn't going around saying how much having another Olympian would be fine with him, i think we can safely interpret that as a vote of confidence in 'Drew. Let's see how things unfold, although the thought of Bosh on Houston is scary, he and Scola would be a two-headed rebounding moonster!


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